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mappshey all03:20
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:14
mappsmorning07:35
brobostigonmorning mapps07:39
mappsany plans for today mate?07:43
mappsjust watched first ep of a new show...the divide :) pretty decent07:43
brobostigonnot much, probably a beer or two this afternoon, celebrate my birthday.07:44
mapps:)07:46
mappshappy birthday:)07:46
brobostigonty, :)07:53
Myrttihbd brobostigon07:56
brobostigonhbd ?07:57
Myrttihappy birthday07:57
brobostigonthank you.07:58
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popeypip pip09:07
brobostigonmorning popey09:24
popeyo, hows tricks?09:27
brobostigonlong evening last night, my birthday party with my friends, couldnt do today, got home at 2am.09:32
* penguin42 isn't convinced it's that much cooler than yesterday, even though metoffice was saying it should be a lot colder14:31
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Guest45215Hey guys what's up! I need help.... My question is... Does the installer of ubuntu 14.04 recognise that in the hdd there are two operative systems? In fact I have win7 alongside ubu12.0414:42
penguin42I think it should, I've not tried that combination though14:44
Guest45215Mmm ok!14:44
penguin42Guest45215: Still, it's certainly making sure you've got a backup before you start14:44
penguin42Guest45215: And you should be able to go quite a long way through the installer without changing anything14:44
Guest45215And in your opinion is there the option to choose to get rid of the old ubuntu and to install the new version?14:46
penguin42I think so; I think as you go through the installer and it gets to the bit about disk partitioning it will ask you what you want to do14:46
mappsdamnit14:47
mappshad nightmares14:47
Guest45215Tnx!14:47
Guest45215Aaaand listen! If I go to windows>manage disks and decide to delete the partition where ubuntu is installed what would happen?14:50
penguin42Guest45215: I'm not too sure where the boot loader ends up in a win7/ubuntu dual boot - don't delete the partition holding your current boot loader14:50
Guest45215Ok! It was only a stupid question I know!14:51
Guest45215Well, and know a question that doesn't involves ubuntu..... In your opinion where do I come from?14:52
penguin42Well, the most likely place is Earth14:53
Guest45215Hahah!!! :)14:54
Guest45215But I mean... So... Mmm... Are you from an english speaking country? Sorry, but this is very important to me14:55
Guest45215I'm not a stalker or something else...14:56
Guest45215Just want to know...14:56
penguin42Yes, native English speaker15:01
penguin42GeoIP reckons you're probably from Italy15:03
Guest45215Well, i know we're talking on "ubuntu-uk" so you probably come from england.... But, However... I'm not from England... i'm from a stupid country called "italy" and I would like to say that I ALWAYS  ask question in on-line places not connected with my country, because all italians are sooooo stupid and horrible people.. An hour ago I asked on ubuntu-it chat the same thing I asked in this chat and NO ONE replied to me correctly.15:04
penguin42Well, not all Italians, I work with one that's smart15:05
mappsyeo15:05
mappsengland is the best15:06
mappswe agree15:06
Guest45215Yeahh... All italians abroad are very smart15:06
penguin42Guest45215: He's still in Italy15:06
Guest45215Mmm... Oook :) but... However moving on... i have all replies to my question not certanly in italy...15:07
Guest45215But my question is... Did you understand i'm not english?15:08
penguin42Guest45215: Not really, your English is pretty good15:08
Guest45215Ohohohohohohhooh!!!!15:09
Guest45215No way!! Really?15:09
Guest45215Fabulus!15:09
Guest45215*fabulous15:10
Guest45215Ahah!! You used GeoIP! :)15:14
penguin42yep15:14
penguin42Guest45215: But you can tell you're probably western European because you get the grammar about right15:15
Guest45215Sorry?15:17
Guest45215You're saying I have a good grammar?15:19
Guest45215:)15:19
penguin42Guest45215: Yes15:21
Guest45215Huhuhuhu!!!!! Hugs!15:21
Guest45215:) I hope one day I c15:22
Guest45215*will study in UK!15:22
Guest45215I hope in the Erasmus project! :)15:22
penguin42ah I have heard of it15:23
Guest45215Yah! It's such a wonderful project where students can move through Europe to go to study in a different country... :) I would also improve both my english grammar and pronunciation...15:25
Guest45215Well... dreams are beautiful... But they are also very short, so now i stop dreaming and continue my life in this country where all sucks...15:29
Guest45215*suck15:29
Guest45215Politics first...15:30
Guest45215Well! Thanks for all! Bye bye!15:35
penguin42you're welcome15:35
* SuperEngineer has fingers tightly crossed - currently updating Hp mini from 12.04 to 14.04 ... X16:34
SuperEngineer...and, of course, is watching the Hungarian Grand Prix16:35
SuperEngineerwee - upgrade worked! that's all 3 pooters now running 14.04.[01 I assume]17:19
SuperEngineerexcept it's gone back to non-uk keyboard - a known xubuntu prob - usually cured by removing dbus stuff - but really, again?!17:27
penguin42under the GUI?17:30
SuperEngineeryup17:33
SuperEngineer[still checking all used apps working 100% - so far so good - then on to resolving that little prob]17:34
SuperEngineerwey-hay... even Steam working on it ok17:34
penguin42SuperEngineer: I'm sure Steam got a significant amount of enthusiastic testing17:38
SuperEngineer;)17:44
SuperEngineerSo creaking old netbook on Lubuntu, HP mini on Xubuntu, home build desktop on Ubuntu - all 14.04.01 :D17:45
penguin42I put Kubuntu on my netbook; it's ok once it gets going, but it does take a while to get itself together17:46
SuperEngineerplease tick here if 1st day off in 3 weeks successful [ᶘ]17:53
penguin42haha, I'm back to work tomorrow after a week off17:57
SuperEngineerpenguin42: :p18:03
SuperEngineer...and brain fade - it's not a dbus prob - it's an ibus prob - currently resolving18:04
popeyditto18:05
SuperEngineer..keyboard solved...18:07
SuperEngineer...now - to update to whisker menu or not to upgrade to whisker menu - that is the whatsits...18:07
daubersEvening19:33
mappsevening19:37
daftykinso/19:38
* SuperEngineer refuses to say "evening" while the sun still lights a glorious sky!19:38
daftykinsugh that HP craptop's audio device disappeared again :P19:38
mappsheh19:38
daubersHeh :)19:38
mappsthought it was fixed19:38
daubersSuperEngineer: Only just lighting the sky around here. Might actually have to put the lights on shortly19:39
daftykinsyeah, it was for one boot...19:39
mappshow did u fix itbefore19:40
SuperEngineer#/me hands daubers a virtual candle19:40
daftykinsi didn't, powering off then powering back on it mystically appeared :)19:40
daftykinsalthough that was with Windows installed19:40
daftykinsthe Linux installs seem to chase the device away19:40
mappso19:46
daftykinsfound a huge thread on the HP forums about lots of models having disappearing audio19:46
mappshow old is the machine19:47
daftykinsVista era, so 06-0719:48
daftykinsah sounds like it's heat damage that's killed it19:49
daftykinscausing it to be intermittent19:49
daftykinsthat makes sense now, because it was after a good run of prime95 that it worked again... so the heat probably helped make the connection briefly again19:49
daftykinsi could try popping the motherboard in the oven \o/19:50
mappsprime95?19:53
daftykinsheh we are mr. questions19:54
daftykinsyep, it's a common stability testing program19:54
daftykinsit has torture test options that let you hammer the processor, RAM and disk19:54
mappsheh19:54
daftykinsoverclockers use it to stability test overclocks19:55
mappsdont ask dont learn;p19:55
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mappsbusy day tomorrow20:02
mappscant stay out all night..must remember20:02
mapps:D20:02
mappselse i wont get up in time20:02
daftykins^_^20:03
mapps:D20:03
mappsgoing for lunch at 2..racing at 520:04
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heraclesHello. Does anyone have any experience with getting bridging to work in xen? I want to bridge wlan0 to xenbr0 but I can't find any instructions on how (that actually work)21:36
daftykinsthat'll probably be since xen isn't the officially supported virt tech for ubuntu21:38
heraclesAh21:39
daftykinsis that a particular reason you chose it?21:39
daftykinss/that/there/21:39
heraclesWhat is the officially supported virt tech? is it kvm? I chose it because it was the first thing I read about that offers VGA passthrough which I've managed to accomplish21:40
heraclesas well as USB passthrough which is also working as of now21:40
daftykinsthink so yip21:42
heraclesIt took 3 days to get everything working (including going through several different distros). I'm kind of reluctant to start the process over again21:43
heracleswith a different tech21:43
daftykinswell, funny part about 'xenbr0' is that's named as a bridge interface already21:44
daftykinsso what IP does that interface have?21:44
heraclesthe problem isn't creating the bridge interface, it's linking it with wlan021:45
heraclesI'm pretty sure you can't directly link the two21:45
heracleslet me find the exact error I get21:46
heraclessudo brctl addif xenbr0 wlan021:47
heraclesyields21:47
heraclescan't add wlan0 to bridge xenbr0: Operation not supported21:47
heraclesI also tried running: $ iw dev wlan0 set 4addr on21:48
daftykinsif you're using network manager on the host OS and the interface is up, you probably can't do it21:48
daftykinsso why exactly do you want a VM to have a physical graphics card?21:49
daftykinsjust curious21:49
heraclesI tried uninstalling the network manager and configuring wlan0 through /etc/network/interfaces but none of the suggested configs I tried worked21:50
heraclesgaming and AutoCAD21:50
daftykins:S21:51
heraclesand I don't trust windows enough to install it on bare metal, I want the filth contained21:51
daftykinsthat's pathetic.21:51
daftykinsyeah WPA supplicant fun with the interfaces file would be a challenge21:51
Myrttismile, you're again on a screenshot21:51
* Myrtti scrambles for screenshot tool21:51
heraclesscreenshot why exactly? Using a VM for windows specific tasks doesn't seem like something unusual21:52
heraclesperhaps my comment about "containing the filth" was a tad edgy21:52
heracles*shrugs*21:52
heraclesso what do you suggest I do daftykins?21:53
Myrttiscreenshot for my irssi theme21:53
daftykinsyes it was childish21:56
daftykinsi don't know, i used xen 6 years ago21:56
daftykinsi'd imagine there'd be plenty of information to get it working, online - assuming that bridging syntax was correct21:57
daftykinsi'm surprised there was even a xen kernel in the repos21:57
heraclesdo you think it's worth trying to configure kvm instead?21:57
daftykinsno idea22:00
heraclesthe ubuntu specific documentation seems to stop around 11.1022:05
heraclesfor kvm that is22:05
heraclesalso from what I understand xen is much more mature22:05
daftykinsmaybe, on supported platforms22:05
heraclesinstalling kvm as we speak22:19
heraclesthanks for your help22:19
daftykinsthere we go, bit of a heating for a while... audio comes back \o/22:22
daftykinsi think i'm gonna pop it in the oven22:22
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