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dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
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czajkowski | aloha | 08:27 |
dpm | morning dholbach, czajkowski | 08:29 |
dholbach | hey dpm | 08:30 |
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dholbach | dpm, are you going to need me in the call with Will tomorrow? | 12:49 |
dpm | dholbach, it's up to you if you want to be there. As long as there's one of us who can walk him through the presentation | 12:49 |
dholbach | dpm, ok - I should be free at the time - just let me know | 12:50 |
dpm | I'll be there, feel free to join if you want to, but you don't have to | 12:50 |
dpm | ok, cool | 12:50 |
dholbach | I just saw it in my inbox and realised I hadn't responded yet | 12:50 |
dholbach | popey, welcome back - how were your holidays? | 12:50 |
dholbach | popey, did you see? click-reviewers-tools work in trusty+utopic again :) | 12:51 |
popey | heya, thanks. They were great! | 12:51 |
popey | I setup a utopic chroot now, and do all my approvals in that ☻ | 12:51 |
popey | now you fixed it all | 12:51 |
dholbach | yeah, it doesn't depend on any apparmor bits any more, which will make having it in all kinds of releases a lot easier | 12:52 |
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dholbach | dpm, popey, mhall119, balloons: team call? | 15:01 |
dpm | yep! | 15:01 |
* balloons crossing fingers | 15:01 | |
popey | \o/ | 15:03 |
dholbach | all rightie, got to run - see you tomorrow! :) | 16:01 |
elfy | popey: so I was doing the once a year thing and getting a haircut, conversation somehow turned to PCs - woman cutting my hair started talking about Ubuntu, then said something about her brother doing stuff with it ... | 16:02 |
elfy | that was hilarious :p | 16:02 |
popey | uhoh | 16:02 |
popey | where do you live, wonder if that was my sister ☻ | 16:03 |
* elfy lives in Lymington, yes it was indeed your sister :) | 16:03 | |
popey | haha! | 16:03 |
popey | thats brilliant | 16:03 |
elfy | so that's a little bit closer to finally meeting you lol | 16:04 |
popey | heh | 16:04 |
mhall119 | you two haven't actually met in person yet? | 17:03 |
elfy | nope | 17:05 |
elfy | I've only met one person in the 7 years I've been floating about | 17:05 |
popey | oddly I was in lymington on saturday, passing through from the isle of wight ferry | 17:07 |
elfy | I heard about that | 17:08 |
elfy | but I didn't get the lowdown on any 35 year old stories | 17:09 |
elfy | I'll wait till next year for those :p | 17:09 |
popey | :D | 17:21 |
popey | I'm just amazed how you got from "I'm here to have my hair cut" to "I know your brother" :D | 17:21 |
elfy | she said about PCs - I said I don't do windows or macs - my brother's like that too then off it went - then she said Alan and I said popey :p | 17:32 |
elfy | s/said something | 17:32 |
mhall119 | did you call him "popey"? | 17:33 |
elfy | I did :p | 17:33 |
* mhall119 imagines his family calling him that just like the rest of us | 17:33 | |
popey | ☻ | 17:41 |
popey | everyone calls me popey. | 17:41 |
popey | unless they're insulting me. | 17:41 |
mhall119 | then they call you alan? | 18:00 |
popey | exactly | 18:06 |
bkerensa | mhall119: have you ever thought of having Ubuntu Badges? | 19:18 |
* belkinsa perks up as me hears Badges | 19:19 | |
bkerensa | http://www.openbadges.org/ | 19:20 |
elfy | I thought that was what the accomplishments thing was | 19:22 |
mhall119 | elfy: similar, but different | 19:22 |
belkinsa | My question is it really needed for the Community? | 19:22 |
mhall119 | bkerensa: are they still tightly bound to Personas? | 19:23 |
belkinsa | Because to me, it's just more gamification. | 19:24 |
mhall119 | belkinsa: I'm on the fence about their usefulness, but I'm leaning your way | 19:24 |
mhall119 | I don't think pure gamification works in a collaborative community, not as well as it works in a competitive one anyway | 19:26 |
bkerensa | mhall119: it uses persona by default but changing thats not hard... lots of universities and schools now use it without | 19:27 |
belkinsa | Yeah, badges seem to be for competive communites. Like XPRIZE> | 19:27 |
bkerensa | belkinsa: well Jono had the same idea | 19:28 |
bkerensa | Ubuntu Accomplishments | 19:28 |
bkerensa | was roughly the same idea | 19:28 |
belkinsa | I see. | 19:28 |
bkerensa | it just never got traction | 19:28 |
mhall119 | just because jono had the same idea doesn't mean belkinsa is wrong | 19:32 |
jono | HAHA | 19:32 |
jono | great way to join the channel :-) | 19:32 |
elfy | lol | 19:32 |
bkerensa | mhall119: I don't think it seeks to create competition but to be a economically scalable form of recognition | 19:33 |
belkinsa | lol | 19:33 |
elfy | jono: you're just this guy you know :p | 19:33 |
jono | :-) | 19:33 |
mhall119 | welcome jono :) | 19:33 |
jono | howdy mhall119 :-) | 19:33 |
bkerensa | Mozilla spends millions on swag for contributors in terms of recognition each year so having a way to do that at a lower cost per is much better | 19:33 |
belkinsa | Well, if it's just for recognition, maybe they could be okay within the Community. | 19:34 |
mhall119 | bkerensa: that might be the intent, but I'm not convinced it acheives it | 19:34 |
bkerensa | mhall119: its also useful for things like celebrating participation in events... We have badges for things like meetups, trainings and summit | 19:34 |
mhall119 | jono: it's like reddit, you're the example of doing things write until I disagree with you, then what do you know | 19:34 |
mhall119 | s/write/right/ | 19:34 |
jono | haha | 19:35 |
jono | indeed :-) | 19:35 |
jono | brb | 19:35 |
mhall119 | bkerensa: if you read my recent blog posts, I emphasize the importance of human recognition, I think that's something badges don't do | 19:35 |
bkerensa | mhall119: So if you can make the case to Rick I would encourage you to try and attend Mozilla's Community Building Teams next Recognition Work Group Meetup | 19:35 |
bkerensa | its open to the public | 19:35 |
mhall119 | bkerensa: when and where is that? online? | 19:35 |
bkerensa | quite a few bay area tech companies and non profits including the Red Cross participate | 19:35 |
mhall119 | ugh, bay area | 19:35 |
bkerensa | mhall119: I think the next one is next month in San Francisco | 19:35 |
bkerensa | otherwise it will be another six months till the next | 19:36 |
bkerensa | mhall119: Oh don't worry not Oakland :P | 19:36 |
mhall119 | still the other side of the continent | 19:36 |
bkerensa | mhall119: let me see about remote participation via Vidyo | 19:37 |
mhall119 | bkerensa: why is there no Mozilla stuff in central Florida? | 19:37 |
* mhall119 starts "mozilla hates florida" meme | 19:37 | |
* elfy starts a "where is florida" meme | 19:38 | |
bkerensa | mhall119: What do you mean? I don't know how far you are from University of Florida but Mozilla does a bit of events there | 19:39 |
mhall119 | about a 2 hour drive, I could make that on occasion | 19:39 |
mhall119 | assuming it's on the main campus in gainesville | 19:39 |
bkerensa | and I was planning on flying down to FOSSETCON in Orlando but it just didn't work out =/ | 19:40 |
mhall119 | will anyone from Mozilla be at FOSSETCON? | 19:40 |
bkerensa | mhall119: one of the keynote speakers | 19:42 |
bkerensa | :) | 19:42 |
mhall119 | who? | 19:42 |
* mhall119 hopes it's stormy | 19:42 | |
bkerensa | http://fossetcon.org/2014/speakers/brandon-johnson | 19:43 |
bkerensa | I kind of doubt Stormy will be going | 19:43 |
bkerensa | :) | 19:43 |
bkerensa | she just got done with OSCON | 19:43 |
mhall119 | I can hope | 19:44 |
mhall119 | but yeah | 19:44 |
bkerensa | mhall119: | 19:46 |
bkerensa | <bkerensa> stormy: are you attending FOSSETCON? | 19:46 |
bkerensa | * angelina-afk is now known as angelina | 19:46 |
bkerensa | <stormy> @bkerensa I am not planning on it. Should I? | 19:46 |
bkerensa | heh | 19:46 |
bkerensa | :) | 19:46 |
mhall119 | I guess "catchup with old friends" isn't a valid business case for travel | 19:47 |
bkerensa | well | 19:47 |
bkerensa | Stormy doesn't have to justify her travel | 19:47 |
bkerensa | heh she signs off on her budget since she is a director | 19:48 |
bkerensa | ;p | 19:48 |
mhall119 | you still have to justify it when it's not your personal money | 19:48 |
bkerensa | idk I have seen it all :) | 19:49 |
bkerensa | when you see a $7,000 sushi and sake bill :) | 19:49 |
mhall119 | heh, that sounds like sales consultant expenses | 19:55 |
mhall119 | when I worked at Verizon, the IBM sales guys wouldn't hesitate to drop $10k taking managers out | 19:55 |
mhall119 | or so I heard, not being a manager I didn't get to experience it myself | 19:56 |
mhall119 | the HP guys were at least cool enough to take us all out for pizza | 19:56 |
bkerensa | mhall119: that was for the community building team dinner | 19:57 |
bkerensa | The team is pretty large though but I didn't honestly think we would pay $7k plus $1k for a tip out the door | 19:57 |
bkerensa | the food was pretty good :) | 19:58 |
bkerensa | also the last dinner I got to have with Brendan Eich | 19:58 |
bkerensa | a former canonical employee who did business dev actually stopped by our booth and mentioned he thought it was a hard sell | 20:16 |
bkerensa | oh wow he was the Business Development Director for Canonical even | 20:17 |
bkerensa | :s | 20:17 |
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