[04:38] <pitti> Good morning
[07:55] <willcooke> morning all
[08:04] <Sweetshark> willcooke: Good Morning!
[08:04] <willcooke> Good weekend Sweetshark?
[08:05] <Sweetshark> willcooke: Apart from waking up from a lightning strike hitting less than 200m away on Sunday at 6am, yes ...
[08:05] <Sweetshark> ;)
[08:05] <willcooke> I thought we were going to get epic lightning last night, but nothing happened.  It's been really hot this weekend and we could do with a big storm to clear the air
[08:06]  * Sweetshark is happy to have surge protection on his machine.
[08:06] <willcooke> 200m?!?!  I imagine that was very loud
[08:07] <Sweetshark> willcooke: jup. its was like half a second between light and thunder. And yeah, its impressive. ;)
[08:07] <willcooke> zowwweee!
[08:08] <willcooke> I "borrowed" and old 3kva UPS from my old work.  They were throwing it away and I intercepted it.
[08:08] <willcooke> It needs new batteries of course, but now I think it would be a good idea to get it plugged in :)
[08:12] <Sweetshark> willcooke: yes. FWIW, I also have some surge protection thing on my ethernet cable, dunno if that is nonsense like "audiophile" ethernet cables for digital audio. But "dicke Bertha" (32-core, 32GB RAM machine http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/dicke-bertha-online/ ) is only 2.5 years old. I want it to stick around a bit still.
[08:14] <willcooke> Sweetshark, ha!  wow!
[08:14] <Sweetshark> willcooke: builds LibreOffice in 18 minutes from scatch. in under 3 minutes with a warm ccache ;)
[08:15] <willcooke> O_o
[08:15] <willcooke> amazing
[08:17] <Sweetshark> Hmm, seems like I didnt have enough caffeine yet or dpkg in my pbuilder is trying to punk me: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7882263/ <- "You should install libcdr-dev, btw you have libcdr-dev installed" Anything I am missing?
[08:20] <xnox> Sweetshark: too low version number installed.
[08:20] <xnox> libcdr-dev (>= 0.1) vs 0.0.16-1ubuntu1
[08:21] <Sweetshark> xnox: eh, got lost in counting the zero-dot-zeros ... thx
[08:22] <xnox> Sweetshark: i typically do dpkg-checkbuilddeps and trust its output.
[08:27] <Sweetshark> xnox: yep, its the usual pain: package is in proposed only :/
[08:28] <xnox> Sweetshark: well, I have -proposed pinned down and if savish enough i pull those packages down. But let's see why it's stuck and maybe we can push it to migrate.
[08:29] <xnox> Sweetshark: looks like Libreoffice needs to be rebuild against libcdr..... for libcdr to migrate.
[08:29] <xnox> =))))
[08:29] <xnox> (among a few other things)
[08:31] <xnox> and writerperfect
[08:32] <Sweetshark> xnox: ;)
[08:32] <Sweetshark> xnox: well, wp{s,d,g} are also in the list already ...
[08:34] <xnox> Sweetshark: yeah, looks like it's entangled with libav transition.
[08:35]  * Sweetshark secretly hates how writerperfect things its important enough to be three packages. "Oh, I would love to install libwpd but not that nasty libwpg" gotta be such a common usecase ...
[08:35] <Sweetshark> s/things/thinks/
[08:39] <Sweetshark> xnox: FWIW, building LibreOffice 4.3.0~rc4 against libcdr, libwp{d,s,g}, libmspub, libvisio from utopic-proposed now ...
[08:41]  * xnox notes that writerperfect is not spelled as "writeperfect"
[08:42] <Sweetshark> xnox: well, its just "ancient document formats" anyway ;)
[08:56] <seb128> good morning desktopers btw (at a conf but should be around still)
[08:56] <ogra_> still ? ... not sparkling ?
[08:57] <seb128> lol
[08:58] <didrocks> ogra_: boiling would be the word actually
[08:58] <willcooke_> hey seb128
[08:58] <ogra_> lol
[08:58] <seb128> hey willcooke_
[08:58] <seb128> didrocks, don't talk about boiling under we are in China where they forecast "feels like 49°C"
[08:58] <willcooke> hrm - I think I need to buy a new ADSL router
[08:58] <seb128> under->until
[08:58] <didrocks> ogra_: you should have tell us that Germany was so warm :)
[08:58] <willcooke> 49?!
[08:58] <seb128> yeah
[08:59] <seb128> 40°C with humidity
[08:59]  * willcooke packs shorts
[08:59] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, it's a step in between
[08:59] <seb128> it's training :p
[08:59] <didrocks> "warming up"
[08:59] <didrocks> litteraly :p
[08:59] <seb128> right
[09:02] <Sweetshark> 40C without humidity is just fine (as they say in Arizona: "but its a _dry_ heat!"). humidity makes that really annoying though.
[09:02] <willcooke> FJKong, How's the weather for you right now?  Are we all going to melt?  ;)
[09:02] <willcooke> Sweetshark, The problem I have with the dry heat is all the bloody static electric shocks all the time
[09:03] <FJKong> willcooke: hot hot hot
[09:03] <willcooke> uh oh
[09:03] <willcooke> :/
[09:03]  * willcooke invents USB powered air conditioning 
[09:04] <FJKong> willcooke: 24 - 35 degree
[09:11] <seb128> FJKong, I guess the office has a/c, right? ;-)
[09:11] <seb128> NUDT as well?
[09:13] <willcooke> :)
[09:29] <seb128> TheMuso, hey, are you working on getting the new alsa version in utopic? (I see we are outdated compared to upstream/Debian)
[09:43] <FJKong> seb128: don't worry, there is a/c
[10:02] <willcooke> seb128, TheMuso I think there was something about a memory leak in the latest Alsa. lool- and I were discussing this recently
[10:04] <seb128> willcooke, k
[10:14] <willcooke> didrocks, that brightness bug - they want me to update the bios.  :(((((
[10:14] <willcooke> I expect that won't go well
[10:14] <didrocks> willcooke: urgh, did you try to talk to them directly on #ubuntu-kernel?
[10:15] <didrocks> willcooke: it used to work, so if the kernel broke it, it's on us to fix it
[10:15] <willcooke> not yet - good advice though, thanks
[10:15] <didrocks> not having the users updating the bios
[10:15] <didrocks> (even if the kernel was doing it "in a bad way" before)
[10:15] <didrocks> willcooke: I would suggest pinging apw there
[10:16] <willcooke> I've got a load of slide decks to work on first, so I think I will care about this in two weeks :)
[10:17] <didrocks> ah, manager work ;)
[10:17] <willcooke> \o/
[10:18] <didrocks> good luck with that!
[10:18]  * didrocks goes back to fight docker + dbus :p
[10:28] <seb128> bah, keep getting disconnected
[10:28] <willcooke> the joys of wifi
[10:28] <seb128> yeah, in a room packed of geeks with their laptops
[10:34] <RAOF> Need to ship out a Canonical team to run the wireless? :)
[10:35] <seb128> yeah!
[11:22] <willcooke> excercise time, bbiab
[14:43] <seb128> Trevinho, hey
[14:43] <seb128> Trevinho, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1349128 a known/being worked on issue?
[14:44] <Trevinho> seb128: hey
[14:44] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, let me check the details
[15:51] <seb128> happyaron, https://code.launchpad.net/~mniess/ubuntu/trusty/ibus/fix-lp1240198/+merge/223651 ... you wrote "Ok, yes", do you plan to upload as well?
[16:10] <cking> does anyone know if dbus-daemon should be *not* running when booting into recovery mode?
[22:10] <TheMuso> seb128: Yes I am.