[00:56] <rww> Meeting in about an hour. Tonight's incredibly exciting agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14July27
[00:57] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14July27 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[01:56] <rww> Five minutes or so until meeting; agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14July27
[01:56] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14July27 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:00] <rww> aanndd meeting time
[02:01] <rww> #startmeeting Ubuntu California 2014-07-27
[02:01] <darthrobot`> Meeting started Mon Jul 28 02:01:00 2014 UTC.  The chair is rww. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[02:01] <ianorlin> o\
[02:01] <rww> #chair rww pleia2
[02:01] <darthrobot`> Current chairs: pleia2 rww
[02:01] <rww> #topic Roll call
[02:01] <rww> Who's around?
[02:01] <rww> o/
[02:02] <rww> (let the minutes reflect that elky is too busy trolling #ubuntu-offtopic to say hi)
[02:02] <elky> :(
[02:02]  * philip15 says hello
[02:02] <elky> i was informing them of a thing :(
[02:02] <rww> hihi philip15
[02:02] <rww> are you the philip of the ballew variety?
[02:02] <philip15> Oh yes I am.
[02:03] <rww> awesome
[02:03] <rww> we were just getting started; nothing on the agenda tonight
[02:03] <rww> alrighty. Anyone have any topics for today?
[02:06]  * ianorlin needs to think of more meeting topics but doesn't have anything currently
[02:06] <rww> doesn't look like anyone does. I'll leave the meeting open for 5 minutes in case anyone thinks one up, and then #endmeeting if not
[02:11] <rww> alrighty, that's a wrap
[02:11] <rww> #endmeeting
[02:11] <darthrobot`> Meeting ended Mon Jul 28 02:11:38 2014 UTC.
[02:11] <darthrobot`> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-07-28-02.01.moin.txt
[02:23] <grantbow> at least it was short :-)
[02:23] <grantbow> thanks for hosting rww
[02:37] <Roguehorse> Anyone still around is did everyone bail?
[02:38] <rww> we all bailed. no topics to discuss :(
[02:38] <Roguehorse> Awww ... bummer.
[02:39] <Roguehorse> I was hoping to make the meeting tonight but got caught up in my paper for school
[02:39] <nhaines> Roguehorse: ironically, for all practical purposes, you made it.  :P
[02:39] <elky> that is far more important
[02:39] <nhaines> Unless you had something to discuss.  In which case we can still do that anway.  :)
[02:41] <Roguehorse> Um .. Any plans for this summer? Events? I tried to follow up with pleia through email to no answer
[02:41] <rww> nobody's come up with anything, as far as I know
[02:42] <rww> pleia2's been a tad busy flying around the planet and having surgery :(
[02:42] <Roguehorse> Oh no! The travel I knew ... sorry to hear that :(
[02:43] <Roguehorse> Ya know, I just started playing with an Ubuntu Server install ... maybe we could do some sort of picnic/server config thing?
[02:45] <Roguehorse> When I start it up I get some kind of fail on the Samba but it rolls by so fast I can't read it
[02:45] <nhaines> Yes, the doctors say she should be walking and talking again in no time.
[02:46] <nhaines> Roguehorse: welcome to the magic of Shift-PgUp/PgDn.  :)
[02:46] <nhaines> Also dmesg.
[02:46] <nhaines> Particularly 'dmesg | less'
[02:47] <Roguehorse> Woulkd it make a difference being in a VM?
[02:48] <nhaines> None.  :)
[02:48] <Roguehorse> good
[02:48] <rww> scrolllock!
[02:48] <rww> or does that not work this decade
[02:48] <nhaines> If you have a DEC terminal.  :P
[02:48] <Roguehorse> hehe
[02:49] <nhaines> I haven't tried it in a while.  I'm usually trying to put out the fire afterward.  :)
[02:49] <rww> pretty sure it works on my debian, but that doesn't really narrow it down to this decade
[02:49] <nhaines> On my 386 I'd just press Pause.
[02:50] <Roguehorse> anyway, the picnic/config thing was a thought
[02:51] <Roguehorse> I'll play with it again probably Tuesday at the earliest. Sat - Mon are usually my heaviest homework days
[02:55] <nhaines> That's the fun thing about VMs.  :)
[02:58] <Roguehorse> So anyway, I have an Ubuntu Server, a Windows, a Kubuntu and a CentOS network all to connect together in VirtualBox
[03:02] <Roguehorse> I wanted everything to be different for the challenge
[03:02] <Roguehorse> Or I'm crazier than I realize
[03:03] <nhaines> haha
[03:03] <nhaines> Well, Ubuntu Server and Kubuntu are basically the same thing.  :)  And CentOS should be very similar when it comes to Samba.
[03:04] <Roguehorse> So of course only the Windows install is going to give me troubles?
[03:05] <nhaines> Windows only does SMB.  So if Samba's up and running it should be trivial.
[03:06] <Roguehorse> I selected SSH, Samba and Mail installations for the server
[03:07] <Roguehorse> Apache might be in there but I've already messed with that a while so that's not new to me
[03:15] <nhaines> I remember as a kid in high school, you just couldn't get server versions of software without spending hundreds--which I didn't have.
[03:15] <nhaines> It's really great to be able to just grab software and try it.  :)
[03:21] <Roguehorse> No kidding. Without Linux or virtualization I would never be able to even try any of this without having to devote half a room and a bankroll
[03:22] <Roguehorse> Linux distros have allowed me to learn so much more than anything else very fast
[03:29] <Roguehorse> I try and convince other students at my University they should try it, but many are just either stubborn or scared - it's their loss
[03:33] <Roguehorse> I want to get one of these -- http://www.tinygreenpc.com/microsvr.aspx
[03:33] <darthrobot`> Title: [MicroSVR | Fanless Powerful Microserver | Tiny Green PC]
[03:42] <ianorlin> yeah that is fun to just try stuff
[03:45] <nhaines> It is their loss!
[03:46] <nhaines> And the best thing is you're not learning on some "trial" edition or student edition.  It's the big time, right from the start.
[03:46] <ianorlin> that you promptly forget because can't practice after graduating
[03:47] <rww> yeah, I like how you can read something on G+ about a cool thing a FOSS distro can do, spin up a VM or three, and try it
[03:47] <nhaines> Or you hit a wall because some settings were changed to accomodate a smaller workload, so the full version works differently.
[03:57] <Roguehorse> Yes, probably the LARGEST downfall of my university is the lack of labs
[03:57]  * ianorlin is using still using the laptop he went to UCLA with
[03:58] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: That's cool!
[03:58] <ianorlin> but that was only a little over a year ago
[03:58] <ianorlin> it is nearly 5 years old now
[03:58] <Roguehorse> LOL!
[03:58] <Roguehorse> I didn't own a computer my first three times to college
[03:59] <ianorlin> but broadcom wifi :(
[04:01] <nhaines> Most modern broadcom chips work a treat.  Despite the apathy of Broadcom.
[04:03] <ianorlin> no it works fine in GUI but is only supported by wl driver and if I switch to tty my tty gets flooded
[04:04] <ianorlin> I could sudo modprobe -r wl but that makes me unable to use wireless I think b43 drivers works but not for 5ghz and is not supported
[04:06]  * ianorlin did not see you at OCLUG so I could not show you the text mode problem
[04:06] <nhaines> That's odd?
[04:06] <nhaines> yeah, I was running around San Diego playing Ingress.
[04:07] <ianorlin> I remember there are complications to running both b43 and wl
[04:08] <nhaines> Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[04:08] <nhaines> That's mine.  Works perfectly.
[04:09] <ianorlin> http://paste.openstack.org/show/88616 wl ate my dmesg
[04:09] <darthrobot`> [R: paste.openstack.org] Title: [Paste #88616 | LodgeIt!]
[04:09] <nhaines> bcmwl is my driver.
[04:27] <Roguehorse> Do you guys use desktops at all?
[04:39] <nhaines> Desktops?
[04:39] <Roguehorse> Well, gotta roll, got stuff to get done in the next hour or so....later
[04:40] <nhaines> Sure.  :)  Actually, one of the nicest things is to have a nice graphics card and dual monitors.  XD
[22:19] <ianorlin> yay found and fixed typo in my resume