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dholbachgood morning06:54
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ChloeWolfieGirlITS STARTING SOON EVERYBODY!14:58
belkinsa\o/14:58
dholbachyeeeeeeeeeeehaw!14:58
luftwaffecool...!!!!!!14:58
popeyheh14:58
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luftwaffeGreetings from Venezuela to the community..!!!15:01
belkinsaI see you!15:01
ChloeWolfieGirlWOOOOOP15:01
ChloeWolfieGirlWe see and hear :315:01
belkinsaAnd it's not loading welll again.15:01
belkinsawell*15:01
dholbachkeep your questions coming!15:02
dholbachprefix them with QUESTION: please15:03
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: why/how is canonical and the people who work there, so awesome?15:05
mhall119ChloeWolfieGirl: you're gonna make us blush15:06
Dipanjan?15:06
ChloeWolfieGirlmhall119: haha x3 you're welcome xD15:06
Dipanjanhmm, and u also15:06
Dipanjancheck out my page15:06
Dipanjanhttp://www.facebook.com/ComTracHack15:06
mhall119QUESTION: How does the Kubuntu project work with upstream KDE and Qt? Do you just integrate what they provide, or do you push a lot of original work back up to them?15:08
mhall119keep asking questions guys, they can be on Kubuntu or any other topic15:11
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Psycho_SquidJust wanna say thanks guys for being part of making the best operating system ever :)15:12
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mhall119+115:12
belkinsa\o/15:13
mhall119QUESTION: besides working on KDE and packages, what other things can people do to contribute to Kubuntu? Are there things for non-developers to do to help you?15:14
decadecityQUESTION: I've heard that KDE5 will adapt the UI to the hardware (touch/keyboard etc) which sounds really interesting - is this correct and (if so) what adaptations are planned?15:16
mhall119QUESTION: with the end of the Vivaldi/Improve project, what is going to happen to Plasma Active?  Do you think the mobile device work that's gone into Ubuntu phone & tablet could be used to produce mobile Kubuntu images with Plasma Active?15:22
nakanutQUESTION:  Which browsers in 14.10 (if any) will have full HTML5 support?15:23
Quintasan:D15:25
decadecityThanks!15:25
Riddellshadeslayer: plasma active has an active maintainer as part of GSoC15:26
Riddellthe project is to port it to Qt5/Plasma 515:26
PB_Question: Actually i was a bit late, so i'm not sure if anybody asked that question or not, but what will happen with Kubuntu if Ubuntu introduce it's new display server (Mir) which probably will not be really compatible with KDE?15:27
mhall119probably wayland could be run in place of mir on top of the core15:27
fisch246QUESTION: When will Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server 12.04 be able to upgrade to 14.04.1 via update manager?15:28
mhall119fisch246: desktop already is, I upgraded one of mine over the weekend15:28
yossarianukwhat version are you planning to include (as default) wayland in kubuntu ?15:28
davmor2fisch246: you need to update 12.04 to pull in the changes and then you should be able to upgrade both15:28
fisch246mhall119: really? I have a desktop as well and it still hasn't received the ability to update yet.15:29
mhall119yossarianuk: start your question with "QUESTION" so it doesn't get missed15:29
fisch246and yes this is after apt-get update15:29
mhall119davmor2: do you need to enable -proposed updates?15:30
mhall119fisch246: I ran "do-release-upgrade -p" over ssh to upgrade mine15:30
fisch246well yes... -p...15:30
yossarianukQUESTION : what version are you planning to include (as default) wayland in kubuntu ?15:30
starbuck1PB_: We are putting efforts and ressources on wayland support next15:30
dholbachfisch246, it should be available soon15:30
dholbachfisch246, or now15:30
dholbachfisch246, there was a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/134796415:30
dholbachI just asked one of the guys working on it15:31
davmor2mhall119: not that I'm aware of15:31
fisch246dholbach: I currently have a plugin that checks the changelog every half hour lol, so I'll know soon as possible :P also thanks15:32
starbuck1yossarianuk: could be 4-6 months until full wayland support is ready15:32
nakanutanother #popey cam fail ;-)15:32
shadeslayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8JYt_xkJuY15:32
shadeslayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc15:32
mhall119dholbach: way to put him on the spot :)15:32
yossarianukstarbuck1: thanks15:33
PB_@starbuck1 - ok - but still Ubuntu will be using Mir. As originally Kubuntu was a Ubuntu clone + very  good KDE desktop, then I'm afraid that sooner or later,  there will be less and less in common. In fact instead of cooperation to deliver good product.. teamsa will work on their own products15:33
mhall119starbuck1: is that for support in KWin, Frameworks, Qt itself, or all of the above?15:33
fisch246dholbach: how did i manage to follow popey on G+ and not you after all this time o.O15:33
yossarianukQUESTION : Are the present Nvidia binary drivers compatible with existing Wayland  (for full 3d speed )?15:34
mhall119PB_: things work a bit differently in the Mir/Wayland world, there isn't a separate display server like X is, they are both built into the compositer/window manager15:35
mhall119QUESTION: What are you looking forward to the most in Kubuntu 14.10?15:36
yossarianukthanks anyway !15:36
mhall119^^ any other KDE/Kubuntu guys in here feel free to answer too15:36
starbuck1mhall19: mgraesslin will have a detailed overview on the state of wayland around mid-August, the big deal as far as I know is the components of plasma5 will need to support wayland15:36
mhall119starbuck1: thanks15:37
mhall119thanks shadeslayer for coming on, that was a great update15:37
belkinsaThanks for that. shadeslayer.15:37
shadeslayeryay15:37
starbuck1there is also kanban started for wayland: https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=show&project_id=215:37
shadeslayerI enjoyed that15:37
fisch246popey: good luck in LUP later today :)15:37
* belkinsa hugs shadeslayer15:37
* shadeslayer hugs belkinsa15:37
mhall119:)15:38
fisch246oh no D:15:41
fisch246the update looks like won't be available until 14.04.2 :(15:41
fisch246upgrade*15:41
fisch246yea that's a really serious bug15:41
PhoenixSTFQuestion: On grafic drivers will *-updates (proprietary) ever really have the latest proprietary drivers.15:42
waaattttried awesome on 14.04 right click doesnt play well with unity, opens desktop settings15:42
dholbachhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/134796415:42
fisch246dholbach: milestone is 14.04.2 so that might mean it won't be able to upgrade until 14.04.215:43
fisch246dholbach: also 14.04 isn't in the changelog15:44
yossarianukQUESTION : will Ubuntu ever change their policy on the Nvidia driver - i.e to have a package of the 'latest' stable Nvidia driver  (always seemed mad that the version of the driver (with known bugs in) was kept back in the name of stability)15:44
popeyhttp://discourse.ubuntu.com/15:45
mhall119http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/planning-the-next-ubuntu-online-summit/180515:45
vasilQUESTION:Will you port the sdk to non linux systems  ps nice beard15:45
Budda@popey what head set are you using15:46
vasilQUESTION:Why did you fuck up the desktop with15:48
yossarianukthanks for the response!15:49
yossarianukvasil15:50
vasilyes15:50
yossarianukvasil: you can use another desktop15:50
PhoenixSTFxd15:50
yossarianuki.e kde/lxde, eyc15:50
vasilyossarianuk not unity the os15:50
belkinsapopey, bluethooth rocks but yeah on Linux...;(15:50
mhall119vasil: please mind the language you use in this channel15:51
vasilSORRY15:51
ChloeWolfieGirl   QUESTION: if blu-tooth sucks on linux why don't you fix it Alan, its all your fault Alan! Blame Popey!15:53
ChloeWolfieGirlLove you really popey15:53
popey♥15:53
ChloeWolfieGirlScreen shot time!15:54
dholbach:-D15:54
mhall119play death metal guitar15:54
howefieldingavaka15:54
vasil QUESTION:How many devices will be supported on launch ps have jono or mark15:54
mhall119vasil: Bq and Meizu will each be shipping a device with Ubuntu15:55
BuddaSamba 4 on servers for AD replacments .  Your current opinion(s) vs Redhat's alternatives15:55
PhoenixSTFGratz15:55
mhall119:-P15:55
fisch246dholbach: thanks for the answers!15:55
PhoenixSTFKepp up with the good work15:56
mhall119thanks dholbach and popey15:56
PhoenixSTFcheers15:56
* dholbach hugs you all15:56
yossarianukcheers15:56
ChloeWolfieGirlwe'll miss you!15:57
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: can you just not leave?15:58
ChloeWolfieGirlForgets I had to pause the video xD15:58
ChloeWolfieGirlcongrats me xD15:58
yossarianukkde/plasma/whatever its called now v5 looks really nice.15:59
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popeyhehe16:00
popeythanks for watching!16:00
davmor2mhall119: I see your death metal guitar and raise you heavy metal cellos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk16:00
mhall119davmor2: I don't know which is more amusing, the "shocked" audience or the dude head-banging with his cello16:05
davmor2mhall119: the kid getting told off for moshing16:06
mhall119yeah, that16:08
basketballdid i just miss it16:10
mhall119basketball: yup, but you can re-watch the video16:10
basketball:(16:10
shadeslayerpft16:13
shadeslayerdavmor2: I see your cellos and raise you kickass violins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_ghvfZ3ao16:13
mhall119shadeslayer: there's an impressive amount of booze there for violinists16:15
shadeslayerbasketball: and I'm still around to answer questions16:15
shadeslayermhall119: well, thats how all the irish drinking songs with fiddles are made16:16
basketballshadeslayer,  who are you?16:16
shadeslayerbasketball: the guy talking in the video ? :P16:17
basketballoh ok16:17
hatem009Question : when will the next version of unubtu be released ?16:21
basketball!wir16:21
basketballask in #ubuntu+116:21
davmor2shadeslayer: I see your violins and I raise you harps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U7TDOtfxts&list=PLxsrHVHwd7ZGlX1DaUbDHyWl3slCs-U6q16:25
shadeslayerdavmor2: I see your harps and raise you Radioactive on a violin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU&list=UUyC_4jvPzLiSkJkLIkA7B8g16:28
davmor2shadeslayer: I see your violin and I raise you bottle blowers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkbZlautuUc16:29
shadeslayerholy crap16:29
shadeslayerthat's pretty awesome16:29
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