[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[07:13] <tsdgeos> the grooveshark webapp stops playing music if i toggle the screen or switch to a different app
[07:14] <tsdgeos> where do i file a bug for this?
[07:19] <tsdgeos> anyone knows where Mirv is?
[08:10] <jgdx> seb128, hey, which schema do I put this in? system or a new one?
[08:11] <seb128> jgdx, hey, what was the keys again?
[08:12] <jgdx> seb128, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7892893/
[08:13] <jgdx> seb128, sim settings
[08:14] <seb128> jgdx, I think I would make a new schemas, com.ubuntu.sim (or phone?)
[08:15] <seb128> Laney, ^ do you have a preference there?
[08:16] <Laney> umm
[08:16] <jgdx> seb128, I like the sound of phone.
[08:16] <seb128> jgdx, +1 from me for that
[08:16] <Laney> yeah don't mind so much
[08:17] <Laney> however this looks like it could be "a(ss)" instead of different keys
[08:18] <seb128> jgdx, ^
[08:19] <jgdx> right
[08:20] <Laney> Not sure I much like the defaults either
[08:20] <Laney> who consumes this key?
[08:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Rain Day! :-D
[08:20] <jgdx> Laney, messaging app, uss at least
[08:21] <jgdx> dialer app
[08:22] <Laney> or is it a way of looking up a friendly name from a modem?
[08:22] <Laney> in which case it sounds like a dictionary
[08:29] <jgdx> Laney, the sim name lookup or the whole thing?
[08:29] <Laney> I mean this schema
[08:29] <Laney> it's to provide a mapping between modem paths and friendly names?
[08:30] <jgdx> and enable the user to select a default sim (modem path) for calls and messages
[08:32] <Laney> yeah those last two are probably okay like this, although you could use a maybe instead of an empty string for 'ask' if you want
[08:33] <jgdx> Laney, 'ask' most def
[08:33] <Laney> I think the first two should probably be "{ss}" and don't hardcode the defaults but instead calculate these dynamicall
[08:33] <Laney> https://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.37/gvariant-format-strings.html#gvariant-format-strings-dictionaries
[08:34] <jgdx> those docs makes my right eyelid shake
[08:34] <Laney> just think of {ss} as a dicationary whose keys and values are both strings
[08:34] <Laney> which is a mapping from modem names to display names
[08:35] <jgdx> I dabbled with this, but my program (the consumer of the key) just segfaulted
[08:35] <jgdx> I'll give it another stab.
[08:55] <jgdx> Laney, is it supposed to be just "{ss}"? That does not compile
[10:59] <jgdx> Laney, I filed a bug against gsettings-qt. Could you take a look at it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gsettings-qt/+bug/1349787
[12:30] <janimo> barry, hi, I am again looking at the MRs filed against u-s-i. Can you give me a hint about how to create the new test for https://code.launchpad.net/~jani/ubuntu-system-image/skip-gpg-verification/+merge/222761 ?
[12:38] <seb128> hey there, I know the n5 is not officially supported, but there is a community image that sort of works, but the screen doesn't suspend ... does anyone has a recommendation to where to look at/start if somebody was wanting to try to debug that issue?
[13:08] <deepak> hi
[13:09] <kenvandine> has anyone used dbusmock yet to mock com.ubuntu.touch.AccountsService.Sound ?
[13:10] <deepak> I recently using touch 14.10. When I update any app, the storage shows that the old version is still there. How can I clear the old version ? Can anyone help me ?
[13:10] <deepak> I am using nexus 4 (8 GB)
[13:14] <deepak> any one is there who is using touch 14.10 and interested to help me
[13:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, hey, the work for dual sim in call forward/waiting, is that wip?
[13:21] <kenvandine> jgdx, i haven't worked on it
[13:24] <jgdx> kenvandine, what about the numbers in about panel for dual sim?
[13:25] <kenvandine> jgdx, nope :)
[13:25] <jgdx> kenvandine, :) goodie, then I'm synced
[13:25] <kenvandine> i'm fighting with the sound panel atm...
[13:25] <kenvandine> jgdx, particularly writing tests and mocking the sound stuff in accounts service
[13:26] <kenvandine> i've implemented all the vibrate and silent mode settings
[13:26] <kenvandine> but having a terrible time getting dbusmock to mock com.ubuntu.touch.AccountsService.Sound
[13:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, what's up with the tests?
[13:26] <kenvandine> i assume mostly because i haven't done much with dbusmock in the past
[13:27] <kenvandine> but this interface seems weird...
[13:28] <kenvandine> it's apparently not introspectable and you have to use getter/setters on org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
[13:28] <kenvandine> and wrap them...
[13:28] <kenvandine> jgdx, have you done anything like that?
[13:29] <kenvandine> i saw your tests for the background stuff
[13:29] <seb128> kenvandine, isn't om26er doing test for the sound panel?
[13:29] <kenvandine> that same approach doesn't work for the sound interface :/
[13:29] <jgdx> kenvandine, all the interfaces I've mocked implements the getters setters from org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
[13:29] <kenvandine> seb128, not sure... i'm adding tests for the features i just added
[13:29] <om26er> seb128, kenvandine I am only testing ringtone setting
[13:29] <seb128> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-system-settings/change_ringtone_test/+merge/228228
[13:30] <kenvandine> jgdx, the sound interface is annotated as vendor added, not sure if that is a hint to why it's annoying
[13:30] <seb128> om26er, kenvandine: you might have duplication in mocks though?
[13:31] <kenvandine> om26er, where are your tests?
[13:31] <jgdx> doesn't look like that branch adds mocking, but tests on the live bus
[13:31] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[13:31] <kenvandine> is that getting the IncomingCallSound from that interface?
[13:32] <om26er> kenvandine, yes
[13:32] <om26er> kenvandine, I have reusable helpers if you want to use them.
[13:32] <kenvandine> yes!
[13:32] <kenvandine> om26er, are your tests in a ubuntu-systems-settings branch somewhere?
[13:33] <om26er> kenvandine, the one seb128 pasted: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-system-settings/change_ringtone_test/+merge/228228
[13:33] <kenvandine> oh, sorry i missed the link :)
[13:33] <om26er> kenvandine, look for helpers.py
[13:35] <jgdx> kenvandine, if you still want to mock it, you could do something like [1] L1449–1500 and add the interface to the user object, IIRC. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1297418-apply-new-designs-to-background-panel/+merge/223571
[13:35] <kenvandine> jgdx, that's what i did... :/
[13:36] <jgdx> kenvandine, oh. Are you trying to add the interface and it fails?
[13:37] <kenvandine> jgdx, i was having a problem with that, and i think i have that nailed, but my setter isn't working
[13:37] <kenvandine> i want to be able to set it from inside my test and verify the UI reflects the change
[13:37] <kenvandine> but the setter seems to do nothing
[13:37] <jgdx> kenvandine, do you emit a signal manually?
[13:38] <kenvandine> no...
[13:38] <jgdx> which you have to, the setter does not do that automatically
[13:38] <kenvandine> sigh
[13:38] <kenvandine> :)
[13:38] <jgdx> self.EmitSignal("org.foo…", "PropertyChanged", "sv", [args[0], args[1]])'
[13:38] <jgdx> e.g
[13:38] <jgdx> :)
[13:38] <kenvandine> well that certainly explains it... i thought the properties interface on fdo did that :)
[14:40] <derek-g> plz. move it along with Ubuntu phone development. I want one.
[14:51] <cwayne_> davmor2, pingerino
[14:52] <davmor2> cwayne: don't make me slap you into the middle of next month acting all cute and cuddly
[14:52] <davmor2> cwayne: what's up dude
[14:53] <cwayne_> lolol
[14:53] <cwayne_> davmor2, was wondering if we could get qa signoff on silo 008
[14:53] <davmor2> cwayne: not at the minute
[15:08] <robotfuel> Wellark: ping
[15:32] <dpm> tedg, charles_ - there's a message that says "Empty!" whenever there is nothing to show in an indicator. Do you know where it comes from? I've noticed it needs to be internationalized, but I'm not sure which project to file the bug against
[15:34] <charles_> dpm, looks like it's coming from qml/Panel/Indicators/DefaultIndicatorPage.qml
[15:34] <dpm> charles_, ah, thanks. Which project is that?
[15:35] <charles_> dpm, d'oh, I meant for that to be in the path I was pasting! It's in unity8
[15:35] <dpm> charles_, cool, thanks!
[15:48] <mterry> jgdx, is there a way to reset the phone to factory settings as the user?  I would have expected system-settings to offer that
[15:48] <ogra_> mterry, sergiusens works on that
[15:48] <ogra_> only from recovery mode though
[15:49] <seb128> mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1207860
[15:49] <mterry> ogra_, hrm.  I want a way to trigger that from userspace -- if user can't enter right pin enough times we are supposed to wipe phone
[15:49] <sergiusens> mterry: ogra_ wrt reset, barry was adding that to the latest system setting api
[15:49] <ogra_> eeek !!!!
[15:49] <sergiusens> mterry: and pmcgowan is waiting on that ;-)
[15:49] <mterry> ogra_, we warn them...  :)
[15:49] <ogra_> mterry, well, thats awful nontheless
[15:49] <ogra_> even with a waring
[15:50] <mterry> ogra_, it's apparently common on phones -- I think iOS does it after some high amount like 20?
[15:50] <seb128> mterry, they added a dbus api to u-s-i
[15:50] <mterry> ogra_, apparently people have nice friends that don't troll them by wiping their phones
[15:50] <ogra_> i just dont hand mine to others :P
[15:50] <barry> sergiusens, mterry, ogra_ do a `man system-image-dbus` to view the current dbus api.  there's a .FactoryReset() method
[15:50] <barry> in s-i 2.3.1
[15:51] <mterry> barry, seb128, sergiusens: thanks!  I will look at that API
[15:51] <seb128> mterry, yw!
[15:52] <ogra_> barry, oh, did you notice that we have a new s-i crash in testing (now that the logging issue is gone) https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-touch-mako-smoke-daily/581/artifact/clientlogs/ubuntu_system_settings/_usr_sbin_system-image-dbus.32011.crash/*view*/
[15:52] <barry> ogra_: i didn't!  but oh wow, that's an odd one
[15:52] <pmcgowan> mterry, while you are at it do the reset action in settings
[15:53] <barry> ogra_: is there a bug open for that?  i can spend some time on it
[15:53] <seb128> pmcgowan, wdym reset action?
[15:53] <mterry> ditto
[15:53] <ogra_> barry, i dont think there is yet ... until either sil2100 or someone from QA opeened one yet
[15:53] <pmcgowan> seb128, the reset the phone option
[15:53] <seb128> pmcgowan, what option?
[15:54] <pmcgowan> one sec
[15:54] <seb128> pmcgowan, the all settings? the launcher? factory?
[15:54] <pmcgowan> seb128, factory
[15:54] <ogra_> pmcgowan, see above ... bug 1207860
[15:54] <ogra_> this is what is being discussed here atm ;)
[15:54] <barry> ogra_: k
[15:54] <pmcgowan> seb128, punting on settings, maybe can do launcher
[15:54] <seb128> pmcgowan, that's what we are discussing
[15:55] <mterry> pmcgowan, yeah I'm trying to implement a factory reset if user can't log in X number of times
[15:55] <seb128> pmcgowan, jgdx is working on the reset launcher atm, we discussed that earlier
[15:55] <pmcgowan> seb128, very good
[15:59] <mterry> barry, that dbus call is brutal  :)
[16:00] <mterry> I mean, I don't know what I expected
[16:00] <mterry> But still
[16:00] <ogra_> mterry, wrap it in a nice function in system-settings so the rest of us doesnt have the pain :)
[16:01] <mterry> ogra_, hah, not that it's complicated necessarily.  Just that you press Enter and you're phone is gone
[16:01] <ogra_> lol
[16:05] <tsdgeos> mpt: is it only bad for 14 year old girls but not for 14 year old boys?
[16:07] <mpt> tsdgeos, yes, in the sense that they’re much more likely to have had unpleasant experiences of that sort in the past
[16:08] <tsdgeos> :D
[16:08] <tsdgeos> sigh world is sexist
[16:08] <tsdgeos> ok
[16:08] <mpt> Well, not *only* bad, but worse on average
[16:24] <barry> mterry: yeah.  suggestions certainly welcome, but i'm not sure what else you can do ;)
[16:26] <mterry> barry, no I like it, and it's exactly what the greeter wants.  Just a tad scary  :)
[16:26] <barry> :)
[16:27] <mhall119> bzoltan1: zbenjamin: have you guys had a chance to look at my scope name case bug?
[16:32] <mhall119> hmmm, r157 is taking quite a long time to boot after upgrading
[16:32] <mhall119> what is Binder_2?
[16:32] <mhall119> it and apparmor are taking up all the CPU time
[16:34] <mhall119> jdstrand: apparmor_parser is slowing my boot after upgrade, I thought that was only supposed to happen after the first flash on a device
[16:34] <jdstrand> mhall119: it will happen if there are policy updates too, which there were (the nameservice abstraction was upated)
[16:35] <jdstrand> mhall119: it will be back to normal after this boot completes
[16:35] <mhall119> ok
[16:41] <bzoltan1> mhall119:  yes, we talked about it
[16:42] <mhall119> bzoltan1: is it something I can fix with my current project/emulator, or should I scrap them and start fresh?
[16:43] <bzoltan1> mhall119:  i would sed all the capital strings
[16:45] <mhall119> bzoltan1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7896431/ are the only instances of camelcase in my source directory
[17:07] <barry> ogra_: re: that s-i crash.  it's telling me the directory that the database is being opened/created in doesn't exist.  by default, that's /var/lib/system-image/  - is there some reason that directory wouldn't exist, or would get unmounted, etc.?  that directory should get created by the installation of system-image-common binary package.
[17:07] <mterry> ogra_, we're out of traincon!
[17:07] <mterry> ogra_, I'm inclined to push in those livecd-rootfs changes, eh?
[17:08] <dobey> mardy: ping. around? have some issues with online-accounts and the u1 plug-in that i could really use your input on
[17:10] <mhall119> looks like we need to raise developer awareness about properly categorising their apps
[17:20] <barry> ogra_: i think i know what's going on.  the "logging issue" is the clue.  is there any way you can check the perms on /var/lib/system-image?  i bet you will find it to be 02770 and the process running system-image-dbus in the smoketest won't be the owner/group of that directory.  if the dir is not writable, then it can't create the settings.db file.  shouldn't affect real world users, but it's a smoketest-not-run-as-root issue (probably
[17:20] <barry> as easily fixable as the logging issue - please file a bug!)
[17:37] <cwayne_> mterry, pingerino
[17:37] <mterry> cwayne, pongalong
[17:38] <cwayne_> mterry, hey, so i apologize cus I'm sure i've asked this before, but if we set the .pam_environment to some non-english language before the welcome-wizard is run, it should be properly localized, right?
[17:39] <mterry> cwayne, you'd have to do that before lightdm runs
[17:40] <cwayne_> so if we do it at image flashing time, we should be good to go
[17:40] <mterry> cwayne_, sure
[17:41] <cwayne_> mterry, and we still don't have a better way to preseed the language right? last i checked there was going to be an accountservice call or something, but i think that was for split greeter?
[17:41] <mterry> cwayne_, yeah that was split greeter
[17:45] <cwayne_> mterry, so .pam_environment's still the way to go then?
[17:45] <mterry> cwayne_, yeah that's good
[17:46] <cwayne_> cool
[17:46]  * cwayne_ wishes there was a cleaner way, but as long as ti works :)
[17:52] <dobey> does trying add an accout for google/fb/twitter result in a crash for anyone else? i'm getting a blank page for a couple seconds, and then crash and sent back to the list of accounts
[18:01] <matv1> just installed the newly promoted one. lots a goodness :)
[18:01] <matv1> spotted a camera bug that looks new to me though
[18:02] <matv1> anyone I could talk 2 thats doing work there?
[18:05] <matv1> I am seeing the camera do this: when swiping up to modify settings like HDR  location and flash, i can change settings but i cant get out of that mode
[18:06] <matv1> is that me doing it wrong? or can anyone confirm?
[18:06] <matv1> on Mako at least
[18:07] <mhall119> matv1: swipe down from just the area with the controls, no higher
[18:08] <matv1> mhall119 nah i wont do that anymore
[18:08] <mhall119> it's a little bit picky, and not intuitive
[18:08] <matv1> oooh right!
[18:09] <matv1> no i knew thats where it was. its just that the swipe area is really small now
[18:11] <mhall119> yeah, you used to be able to tab above the controls to dismiss them too I think
[18:11] <matv1> mhall119 indeed. thats how i remember doing it
[18:12] <matv1> doesnt seem optimal like this
[18:12] <matv1> you think it warrents a bug report?
[18:12] <mhall119> matv1: I agree, file a bug and I'll +1 it
[18:13] <matv1> cool. hang on
[18:22] <matv1> mhall119 https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1349977
[18:24] <janimo> barry, I am not sure how to add the new testcase for https://code.launchpad.net/~jani/ubuntu-system-image/skip-gpg-verification/+merge/222761 can you point me to an existing one I could use as a starting point?
[18:25] <nik90> charles: hi, now that TRAINCO is over, can we request a silo for your https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-datetime/lp-1340329-when-alarm-is-shown-inhibit-sleep-and-force-display-on/+merge/228047 MP
[18:28] <daker> awe_: hi, do you have a few minutes to help me get to register to the network(ofono) ?
[18:30] <awe_> daker, sure
[18:30] <daker> awe_: http://i.imgur.com/PBCgeQH.png
[18:31] <sarnold> "Mode avion" -- for when your phone is a bird :)
[18:31] <awe_> daker,  let's step back for a minute...  can you do anything for with the modem ( voice calls, sms )?
[18:31] <daker> awe_: i don't get the unlock menu their even after a reboot
[18:32] <awe_> I'm not sure what you mean
[18:32] <daker> awe_: ok, if i reboot the phone, the unlock sim card doesn't appear on the network indicator
[18:33] <awe_> ah, ok
[18:33] <daker> sarnold: :)
[18:33] <awe_> what image aere you running?
[18:33] <daker> awe_: this start to happen to me when the plane mode landed
[18:34] <awe_> yes, but what image are you *now* running?
[18:34] <daker> 157
[18:34] <awe_> ok
[18:34] <awe_> now the next thing to do is to run /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems | grep Online
[18:35] <awe_> also, I didn't see a reply to my question about voice calls or SMS?
[18:35] <awe_> actually never mind
[18:35] <awe_> if the SIM is locked, you can't do either
[18:36] <awe_> daker, actually if you can pastebin the entire output from list-modems that would be better
[18:36] <matv1> dobey no i cannot confirm that. just tried adding an fb account. works like a charm
[18:36] <daker> awe_: sure wait a sec
[18:37] <daker> awe_: phone calls http://i.imgur.com/3XxNkJT.png
[18:37] <awe_> list-modems please
[18:37] <dobey> matv1: it seems to be due to poor network connection, so i filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1349975
[18:37] <charles> nik90, I've already asked thostr_; he should get a silo for that when he begins his day about 12 hours from now
[18:38] <daker> awe_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7897289/
[18:38] <nik90> charles: ah ok
[18:38] <awe_> dakar, ok... modem is offline, which is why you're hitting this
[18:38] <matv1> dobey ah I see hmm actualy.. didnt I see something like that pass in the mailgroup..
[18:39] <daker> awe_: so i need to run online-modem
[18:39] <daker> ?
[18:39] <awe_> can you also pastebin the contents of /var/lib/urfkill/saved-states?
[18:39] <awe_> daker, that should fix, but I want to see the values from saved-states
[18:39] <daker> awe_: ok
[18:39] <matv1> dobey let me try and find that
[18:40] <awe_> has this been broken ever since flight-mode landed, or does it just fail periodically?
[18:40] <daker> periodically
[18:40] <awe_> ok
[18:40] <daker> sometimes it works after an upgrade
[18:41] <daker> awe_: as you can see it says Lockdown = 0 which means it has been unlocked which something i haven't done
[18:41] <daker> right ?
[18:41] <dobey> matv1: well, not a bit deal for me now that i know why it's doing it, but it is annoying. more annoying for me is the backlight bug on n5 (but i'm not sure where to file it, or if anyone would even bother looking at fixing it)
[18:41] <dobey> i'd fix it myself if i knew how though
[18:41] <awe_> daker, the problem is Online = 0
[18:42] <awe_> daker, please post the contents of saved-states?
[18:42] <awe_> you can safely ignore Lockdown
[18:42] <daker> awe_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7897303/
[18:42] <awe_> thanks
[18:43] <matv1> dobey sorry I don't own a N5. havn't seen that one
[18:43] <awe_> daker, please try online-modem and if it comes up, then reboot the phone just to ensure that it persists
[18:43] <daker> awe_: ok
[18:44] <awe_> if that fails, then I may need you to hand-edit the saved-states file
[18:45] <dobey> matv1: yeah, backlight is fine on n4. but it stays on even with screen off, on my n5
[18:46] <daker> awe_: it's online now, but the UI still shows the same thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/7897320/
[18:46] <awe_> sure, now you need to enter your PIN
[18:46] <awe_> is the menu item available from the network menu?
[18:47] <daker> awe_: no
[18:47] <awe_> please reboot
[18:47] <daker> ok
[18:49] <daker> awe_: still nothing on the UI
[18:50] <daker> http://i.imgur.com/NSZrIwI.png
[18:52] <matv1> dobey is that must do no good for your battery life to say the least
[18:52] <matv1> would that be mir related or is that deeper down?
[18:53] <dobey> matv1: i expect probably a deeper problem, in pm or kernel stuff
[18:53] <dobey> matv1: yeah, battery life under ubuntu is unfortunately not very great yet
[18:54] <dobey> on the other hand, every time i unlock the screen now, it wants me to turn the phone off ;)
[18:54] <matv1> dobey  haha that would help :)
[18:54] <matv1> dobey thats on all devices though
[18:55] <dobey> hrmm, does the online-accounts-ui process write any useful logs anywhere? i'm having trouble finding any :-/
[18:55] <dobey> matv1: indeed it is. but battery life on my n4 isn't terribly great either
[18:58] <matv1> dobey i am wondering how is call quality now for you on N5?
[18:58] <matv1> or rather how is it on the receiving end?
[18:58] <dobey> matv1: don't know, i haven't had a sim in it for a while
[18:58] <dobey> but i never really had much quality issues with it when i did
[18:58] <matv1> suprisingly few people do
[18:59] <matv1> dobey people tell me i sound like i live in a fishtank :)
[18:59] <dobey> i would, but for a while the screen wouldn't come back on, and when that got magically fixed the backlight wouldn't turn off
[19:00] <dobey> so i got a bit too frustrated dealing with it, and put my sim back in my webos phone
[19:00] <dobey> matv1: i only ever got a complaint about echo or such when making calls on the n5, maybe once or twice
[19:00] <dobey> and i made maybe 15-20 calls total, so not too bad
[19:01] <matv1> dobey I see. well i havnt been running proposed lately so it might have been fixed a while ago
[19:02] <dobey> matv1: you're on n4?
[19:02] <matv1> dobey yes
[19:03] <dobey> matv1: there was a radio firmware update from google that should help, iirc. if you haven't upgraded the firmware you might want to try that
[19:05] <matv1> dobey I know. I have that firmware. applied. But it still hasn't been great after that
[19:05] <dobey> oh ok
[20:11] <nik90> charles: ping
[20:11] <charles> nik90, pong
[20:11] <nik90> charles: hey, I just noticed that when an alarm is triggered there is no vibration.
[20:12] <nik90> charles: Is that something that can be easily added? Would it require design spec?
[20:12] <charles> nik90, yes everything needs to come from design :)
[20:13] <charles> as for actually implementing it... I'm sure there's a "vibrate now" call somewhere out there, off the top of my head I don't know what it is :)
[20:13] <nik90> charles: I will check with them and let you know :)..btw which timezone are you? I like to track that on my clock app :D
[20:13] <charles> US/Chicago
[20:14] <nik90> sweet thnx
[20:14] <dobey> speaking of alarms
[20:14] <dobey> how does one toggle a specific alarm on or off?
[20:14] <dobey> only way to turn an alarm off is to delete it?
[20:14] <nik90> dobey: unfortunately atm delete is the only way :/
[20:15] <nik90> dobey: this is due to a looping bug which renables alarm when you disable it
[20:15] <nik90> dobey: I need to figure out how to break that loop and will then restore that functionality in the UI
[20:15] <charles> nik90, looks like it would be done using the platform-api that ricmm wrote for haptic feedback, in ubuntu/application/sensors
[20:15] <dobey> hmm
[20:16] <dobey> i guess it doesn't matter for me though. alarm doesn't show up in the indicator
[20:16] <charles> a bug that re-enables the alarm when you disable it?
[20:16] <nik90> charles: ok. we have a bug reported against the clock. I will add datetime indicator and also ubuntu-ux to get design input
[20:16] <nik90> dobey: alarm doesn't show in the indicator?
[20:16] <nik90> dobey: when you create an alarm, it is automatically enabled and should appear in the indicator almost instantly
[20:17] <nik90> dobey: I have been waking up to it for the past few weeks
[20:17] <charles> as long as it's not an alarm that's already passed?
[20:17] <dobey> nik90: seems to work on my n4, but not on the n5
[20:17] <nik90> charles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds/+bug/1272337
[20:18] <nik90> dobey: ah that I have no control over :/
[20:18] <dobey> nik90: yeah, it's just incredibly weird
[20:18] <charles> dobey...? hm
[20:19] <charles> dobey, on the n5, does creating an alarm make the alarm show up in ~/.local/share/evolution/tasks/${some-random-long-name}/tasks.ics?
[20:19] <dobey> charles: yeah, i don't know how the alarms work exactly, but it strikes me as incredibly odd that hardware would matter there
[20:19] <dobey> hmm, let me check that file
[20:20] <dobey> charles: yeah, it's in that file
[20:20] <charles> hm, okay
[20:20] <dobey> oh
[20:20] <dobey> i see why it isn't working though
[20:20] <dobey> i think
[20:20] <charles> oh yes?
[20:21] <dobey> RRULE;X-EVOLUTION-ENDDATE=19700101T000000Z:FREQ=DAILY;COUNT=-1
[20:21] <dobey> that looks incredibly wrong
[20:22] <dobey> the DTSTART is correct though
[20:22] <nik90> dobey: btw did you create alarms with the old clock app or the new one?
[20:22] <nik90> dobey: new one has a white background
[20:22] <dobey> nik90: the one installed by default (old one)
[20:23] <nik90> ah ok
[20:26] <dobey> charles: is RRULE;X-EVOLUTION-ENDDATE what indicator uses to determine if the time has already passed?
[20:27] <charles> dobey, I'll have to go dig into evolution to see -- indicator-datetime's calling e_cal_client_generate_instances()
[20:29] <dobey> ah ok
[20:29] <charles> dobey, yes it looks like e_cal_recur_get_rule_end_date() is using that key
[20:29] <charles> in calendar/libecal/e-cal-recur.c
[20:30] <dobey> so why is that key being set with the unix epoch then
[20:30] <dobey> especially when all the other dates in the thing look correct
[20:30] <charles> good question.
[20:32] <charles> looks like it's set only in one place, e_cal_recur_set_rule_end_date(), which takes a time_t as an arg
[20:32] <charles> so somewhere that must be getting called with 0
[20:32] <charles> let's see who calls that...
[20:43] <danilos> hi, I am trying to build ubuntu-keyboard (lp:ubuntu-keyboard) with sbuild on my trusty desktop following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile but I am getting https://pastebin.canonical.com/114422/
[20:43] <danilos> whoops, make that http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898238/
[20:44] <danilos> if I try to apt-get manually in a schroot I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898240/
[20:45] <danilos> but considering libplatform-api1-dev is a transitional package, replacing that in debian/control with libubuntu-application-api-dev (this patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898249/) still fails
[20:47] <danilos> failure is not very telling: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898260/
[20:47] <danilos> anyone has any idea what could be going wrong?
[20:50] <charles> dobey, can you confirm that this happens for you even with fresh builds on the n5?
[20:51] <danilos> using --debug with sbuild doesn't give me any more data, how can I see more details on why does the above fail during dh_auto_configure
[20:51] <dobey> charles: yes, i'm on 157 right now
[20:51] <charles> hmm
[20:53] <dobey> charles: yeah, it's weird. i've even had it work a couple times. but it would work once, and then the next day no alarm. really weird
[21:28] <jypYxYAKSa> hi
[21:29] <jypYxYAKSa> is it possible to install ubuntu touch to my galaxy nexus i9023 and then use it as an full featured desktop with plugged in monitor and keyboard?
[21:31] <Beldar> jypYxYAKSa, Not as a desktop even if installed not there yet.
[21:31] <jypYxYAKSa> but can i run ubuntu touch on it
[21:31] <jypYxYAKSa> ??
[21:32] <Beldar> jypYxYAKSa, The headers of the channel have links to what as of now are installable phones.
[23:38] <OERIAS> Anyone here have the official ringtones, notificatons, and alarms for Ubuntu touch.
[23:38] <daker> OERIAS: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/10/ubuntu-phone-ringtones
[23:40] <OERIAS> Any new ones?
[23:42] <daker> OERIAS: you can download ringtones+notification from here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/ubuntu-touch-sounds/ubuntu-touch-sounds_13.10.1.tar.gz
[23:43] <OERIAS> Thank you daker.