[07:03] morning boys and girls. === msm is now known as Guest13016 [08:10] morning [08:11] morning [08:12] morning [08:12] Happy JamesTait say [08:12] *day [08:13] Failure. [08:13] I know [08:13] that's why it's JamesTait day [08:13] * SuperMatt runs [08:20] Good morning all; happy Rain Day! :-D [08:20] slaps JamesTait [08:20] Ow! [08:21] more sunshine! [08:21] but rain is good [08:21] I like rain. [08:21] not till after my holiday [08:22] unfortunately bbc are predicting rain every day [08:22] My first week off is next week. We're planning a trip to the beach on Saturday. The weather forecast just suggested that the closer to the weekend we get, the more prolonged the rain showers will be. [08:23] we had amazing weather last week (sorry) [08:23] slaps everybody [08:23] never had a british holiday with such good weather [08:23] YOU'RE WELCOME! [08:23] :D [08:23] last time we went to devon in sumnmer it rained every single day [08:23] in fact every year the weather sucks [08:23] i'm the rain god from h2g2g [08:24] Rob McKenna [08:25] yup [08:25] not listened to that for a while, I should. [08:25] popey: you should try it more often [08:25] it? [08:26] holidaying in the uk :) [08:27] i do it every year [08:27] pretty much [08:31] We generally just do day trips for a couple of weeks. [08:36] if my wife didn't insist on booking up 6 mo's in advance i would take a late notice holiday when the weather was looking good [08:37] I had to book in my holiday in April for the summer [08:38] My holiday still isn't booked and I've taken the time off work with the kids the last week in August... really ought to sort something [08:38] :) [08:38] I'm also going away this weekend and haven't sorted stuff yet, most unorganised I've been in years! [08:39] * MartijnVdS is back home :) [08:39] St Malo - Home is a longer drive than I expected. [08:41] memories of eric rohmer films [08:41] waves at MartijnVdS [08:41] \o foobarry [08:42] also.. there was a speck of dust on my lens :( [08:42] the whole week? [08:42] most of it [08:42] oh noes. no auto dust cleaning mode? [08:43] my camera does, and the sensor is OK.. but the lens had a bit on it [08:43] I can probably gimp around it though [08:44] if I stop being lazy and actually learn how to use gimp for other things than cropping and rotating ;) [08:45] heal tool [08:58] http://thecodelesscode.com/case/155 [08:58] in chrome, GPU process is eating 80% of CPU, what is that all abot? [08:58] no tab in particular [09:33] there was a discussion on the knitting channel over games and gaming [09:34] my mind was blown when there was a discussion over XBox One and someone said they had preordered theirs. [09:35] "what" [09:35] turns out XBox One is released in Finland officially in September. [09:36] "The change, which pushed the release date for the other 8 markets to 2014, was attributed to unforeseen complexity in localizing the new Kinect peripheral." [09:51] something to do with herring i expect [10:57] MIDDAY EDUCATIONAL MOMENT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wof0xPUmW38 [11:03] hah [11:03] thats brilliant [11:05] hello people!!! [11:10] hello? [11:12] yes? [11:18] * awilkins is Soylent Green [11:25] oooohhhh [11:25] my scissors arrived [11:47] Myrtti: For a second then I thought you were ooohhhhing awilkings is Soylent Green comment I'm glad you added the scissors line :D [11:48] it's like Christmas today [11:48] my Woolrunners arrived too [11:48] Myrtti: you have people who run for your wool wow that's decadence [11:52] davmor2: https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/14589347347/ [11:53] https://www.flickr.com/search/?tags=woolrunners&sort=relevance&user_id=78835633%40N00 [11:54] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell [11:58] Good morning peeps :) [12:00] these feel lush [12:02] pip pip [12:02] popey: fancy a beer at the weekend? [12:02] you in the area? [12:03] I'll be on a train [12:03] uh [12:03] You've double booked Saturday night? [12:04] no [12:04] dunno where my ticket is [12:04] Phew [12:04] is it this weekend? [12:04] Yes [12:04] hehe [12:04] 2nd August [12:04] where's moodoo? [12:04] busy in his new job === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:04] What is it with you and RAT ticket?! :P [12:06] its more someone tidying things up [12:06] I'll find it, no doubt [12:06] Damn those tidy people! [12:10] Someone sitting near me at work has lunch that smells like a dustbin lorry D⢁ [12:18] Finally found the booking confirmation for my hotel [12:21] well, turned my desk upside down and cant find it [12:27] Wifey put it in a safe place ? [12:27] My Ex always used to do that, "I've put in a safe place, I know I have!" [12:27] yeah, she claims to have not seen it though [12:27] Just found out that I've already paid for my hotel as well. Happy days [12:28] hihi :-> [12:30] Just need to find some beer tokens now :S [12:30] And some cash for a taxi ride === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:47] these might be straight out of the box most comfy shoes I've ever had [12:58] Heh, listening to Discworld audiobooks love the line "Give a man a fire he's warm for a day, set him on fire he's warm for the rest of his life" [12:59] makes sense to me [12:59] I need to set more folk on fire methinks [13:02] foobarry: thanks for that tip about the heal tool [13:02] foobarry: my pictures are mostly dust spot free now :) [13:12] heh [13:12] * davmor2 sets diddledan on fire......sorry did I miss the point I thought that's what you were asking for ;) [13:12] care to show one that will make me jealous for being in an office? [13:26] AlanBell: bringing a webcam with you on the RAT this year? [13:29] If I can work out how to adapt the power for mine for a USB battery, I might bring mine [13:34] aww, rat all sold out [13:35] It did so months ago [13:36] I started organising this year's event in Feb (I think) [13:36] yeah, too busy with finals to book it [13:36] Are you old enough to legally drink ale now? :P [13:37] i was 22 last thursday! [13:37] Have you grown a beard and smoke a pipe? [13:38] I think these are still requirements for ale drinking [13:38] i did the first one briefly [13:39] Yes, was amused by the photos ;) [13:39] i even had a moustache for about 36 hours [13:40] turns out allowing your facebook friends to vote on your facial hair is a bad idea if you don't like looking like a someone who can't go within 200m of a school [13:41] Haha [13:42] dutchie: you have this problem now? [13:42] oh wait [13:42] oh nice I forgot about Fairground the Rollo and sister bliss mix [13:43] http://i.imgur.com/J6gxLbz.jpg [13:43] it even scares me [13:43] o.O [13:44] 😱 [13:44] (U+1F631 FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR) [13:44] needs glasses with giant plastic rims [13:45] heh [13:45] directhex: and a ford capri [13:45] MartijnVdS: how do you type that? [13:45] diddledan: with gucharmap [13:45] MartijnVdS: cheater [13:45] diddledan: or Ctrl+Shift+U 1f631 [13:45] davmor2: don't you mean a ford prefect? [13:47] diddledan: no [13:47] A flying ford anglia? [13:49] 😱 [13:49] My my [13:49] 👽 [13:49] :-p [13:50] That doesn't render in Ubuntu font [13:50] alien! [13:50] bigcalm: get Symbola [13:50] they've got fancy colouring in os x [13:50] But I like Ubuntu [13:51] https://www.dropbox.com/s/2m09x5gzndw5xdy/Screenshot%202014-07-29%2014.51.48.png [13:52] retina screenies ftw [13:52] I need a retina desktop monitor [13:53] lunchtime sunshine made me tired [13:53] need zzzz [13:53] i was coping with my rubbish nights sleep until then [13:54] Funky [13:54] diddledan: ^ [13:56] speaking of retina - apple launched new macbook pros today [13:56] mainly a speedbump [13:57] diddledan: man if they are as big as a speedbump I'm not interested [14:00] Azelphur: Was it you that was doing some research on OKCupid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28543248?ocid=socialflow_twitter [14:01] DJones: yup haha [14:02] "research" [14:04] DJones: this Berni Good guy isn't that smart either, he seems to think hobbies dictate compatibility [14:04] in a sense... [14:04] <-- hobbies: sitting on a chair staring at a screen in the dark [14:04] my wife's knitting and female geekery in croceht and wool spinning matches my linux geekery and scale model making [14:05] foobarry: but they're not identical!?! you should never have got along! [14:05] :-p [14:05] oggcamp is comparable to woolfest* [14:05] lol [14:06] * DJones wonders if he's married to foobarry's other half, thats the same hobbies my wife has [14:06] bought her a spinning wheel today [14:06] Rudder admits that "OKCupid doesn't really know what it's doing".... ok, so it just depicts real life then [14:06] * foobarry best husband in the world , for 1 day [14:06] \o/ [14:06] go foobarry ! [14:06] and it wasn't even her birthday [14:06] it's nice to be "that guy" every so often [14:07] DJones: I think OKCupids algorithm is great at determining someone you will be friends with, but nothing more [14:07] i've never seen a dating site [14:07] Azelphur, I sort of agree with that [14:08] a male and female that both like beer could be fatal [14:08] for example, I had my best friend sign up to it out of curiosity and answer a bunch of questions, we got like 94% match [14:08] I became friends with a few people I met on there, but also did date someone fora year [14:08] Azelphur: was it a guy? [14:08] foobarry: yea [14:08] sounds like a very narrow concept of matching [14:08] foobarry: it's trying to mathematically predict emotional constructs, what do you expect? XD [14:09] as i say , hobbies have their equivalents, but that takes a bit of life experience to see what the equivalents are [14:09] similar traits seems to be the dictionary definition of matching [14:09] e.g. both like cinema [14:09] i love cinema but i hate hollywood trash, would ok cupid ask about types of film? [14:10] I love hollywood trash :-p [14:10] they could settle on one question [14:10] most people would consider that i didn't like cinema as a result of my disparaging views on hollywood [14:10] maybe i'm more booky [14:10] How do you like your women? [covered in bees][in a plastic cup][wat?] [14:10] BEEES [14:10] directhex: sunny-side up [14:10] foobarry: actually they do, they ask about whether you like horror movies, also apparently the answer to this question is one of the highest statistical indicators of compatibility. [14:11] still too generic [14:11] there's certain books i've read that i've only ever seen 1 person reading. would i be a match/soulmate? [14:11] foobarry: the main problem however, is even if the algorithm did work, the vast majority of people don't pay any attention when answering the questions [14:11] probably for the first 3 dates. [14:11] which is just...stupid. [14:11] of all dating sites, ok cupid are the only ones who openly blog about fascinating trends in compatibility and behaviours [14:12] so there's some value to that [14:12] foobarry: That'd be like "Do you like reading"....Erm Yeah....I like scifi/adventure, wife likes slushy romance/drama [14:12] directhex: indeed, I've read it all and it is very interesting [14:12] i found the one on race quite sad [14:12] which is? [14:12] tl;dr: black women have it tough in the dating scene [14:13] there was a matrix for messages sent versus messages replied to, by race. it was all vaguely green, usually a strong correlation between same races. then just a big red line for messages sent by black women [14:14] http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/ [14:14] what is "black"? [14:14] mixed race is black or mixed race? [14:14] directhex: like if you take my most recent email from okcupid on new matches, the top result, the question "Would you prefer good things happened, or interesting things?" she has answered with Good, and she has also said that my answer of "Good" is unacceptable for a potential partner [14:15] * Azelphur facedesks [14:15] you dodged one there [14:15] and again, "Do you enjoy finding out what make things work the way they do?" she has answered "I'm an information sponge" and marked my same answer as unacceptable in a partner [14:15] Azelphur: time to try tinder instead :P [14:16] this is a fairly common trend, people with highly incoherent answers, I've spoken to one or two women who say they just don't bother to pay attention xD [14:16] i know lloads of lovely women who are single [14:16] MartijnVdS: haha, tinder strikes me as not enough personality [14:16] its a tough market [14:16] foobarry: send some my way ;) [14:16] heh [14:17] seriously, some lovely girls. some might not find a partner either [14:17] often the best guys wait for perfect opportunities or shy etc [14:17] not v extrovert at showing off , because thats not their style [14:17] or afraid because of a history of rejection [14:17] also, as alaian de botton says, there's no room for philosophers in a nightclub [14:18] nightclubs are a terrible way of finding partners [14:18] i found my wife in one ☻ [14:18] although technically we'd been lusting for eachother for 5 years before that [14:18] my sister did too, and completely against the grain of nightclub clientele [14:19] popey: haha, taking it just a bit slow then :) [14:19] i found my wife at christian bowling. [14:19] lustign at a distance is what geeks do best [14:19] bring-a-friend-to-convert christian youth social [14:19] didn't speak to her [14:19] directhex: is that a modern safer version of christians vs lions [14:19] oh man [14:19] that was a bad joke [14:20] first words to her after 5 years of lust was "can I ask you a question?" followed by "if I were to ask you for your phone number, what's the probability you'd give it to me?" [14:20] she said "high" so I grabbed a pen from the bar man and asked for it ☻ [14:20] haha [14:20] heh [14:20] she went home and next morning told her parents "if someone called Alan phones, I don't live here" [14:20] i remember a geeky kid at uni to hot girl: "is it worth me trying to chat you up?" [14:20] because she couldn't remember who she gave the number to [14:21] I called on the sunday (the industry standard 2 days later) and she picked up.. ☻ [14:21] rest is history [14:21] awww [14:21] Awww [14:22] first presetn i bought my wife was a monkeh [14:22] like the itv digital monkeh [14:22] before we were going out [14:22] i had one too. they've had babies now [14:23] I just do lots of volunteer work now. It's fun and if I happen to meet someone while doing it it's a bonus :) [14:24] do summer fruit picking [14:24] loads of cute european types [14:25] hehe [14:25] hah [14:29] pfft, it's 2014. all the best date prospects can be found on MMOs! [14:30] popey: tell the truth, you were in white and rhinestones, walked up to her and in your best southern Accent said "Are you Lonesome tonight?" and after getting her number said "Fank ya very much, ah hu I'm all shook up" ;) [14:34] we can't go on together with suspicious minds [14:41] has anyone ever heard of or used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Linux [14:41] foobarry: I used it years ago [14:41] foobarry: it doesn't work on 64bit windows [14:42] yeah i noticed [14:42] i can't believe this was a suggestion from our helpdesk [14:43] because dual boot or vms are so much harder? [14:43] I think also latter windows are prevented from running it because it isn't a signed driver (the kernel part) [14:44] it's effectively user-mode linux with a windows host instead of a linux one === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [14:45] you can run unsigned kernel code on windows x64... but it has downsides [14:45] such as the giant warning watermark on the desktop, and it disables other features [14:45] including hdcp monitors [14:45] directhex: unless you find a way to run the unsigned code in some un-authorized way :) [14:45] you might as well just run virtualbox and be done with it [14:46] virtualbox /o\ [14:46] I know, I know. oracle [14:46] :-( [14:46] it just doesn't work properly IME [14:46] but. free. [14:46] of course [14:46] could pay for vmware workstation [14:46] if you have a non-home edition of Windows you can use Windows' own virt stuff [14:46] hyperv? [14:47] MartijnVdS: yeah, hyper-v [14:47] virtualbox is one of the only times i've had to hack my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to fix dpkg, after it crapped on my package manager [14:47] it was a random google search by a numpty in response to a request for linux on teh lab desktop pcs [14:47] vmware is lovely and does everything, kvm is basic but actually works [14:48] hyperv doesn't seem half bad either? [14:48] vmawre player is the "lighter" version to run vm [14:48] I mean you still need the Windows license to run the "manager"/hypervisor OS. [14:49] (ooh, Ars went GNU on their phone -- http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/exploring-the-world-of-foss-android-can-a-smartphone-be-open-source/) [14:52] hmm, I dunno what on earth scp is doing. I am copying C:\ from a Windows machine, supposedly the partition only has 65GB used, yet it's transferred 150GB and counting... [14:53] well there's your mistake right there. c:\ from windows [14:53] not my machine :) [14:54] :-p [14:54] I'm trolling [14:54] trol lol lol lol lol [14:54] www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqdqyvcJtig [14:54] hehe [14:54] does 14.04 have wubi still? [14:55] but yea, the backup folder is already 159GB, the whole partition is only 176GB >.> [14:55] i was installing for a new user today. they had 4 partitions already used by windows, and windows does something horrid. ubutnu offered to install INSIDE windows until i deleted /dev/sda4 and then it said alongside WONDIWS === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:58] so the question is how on earth can scping /media/blah onto a remote machine, baring in mind the partition only has a use% of 65GB, the result can be a 159GB still rising folder >.< [15:02] du -sh the dirs ? [15:02] dd it instead [15:03] foobarry: I got a dd image, just prefer a copy of the files for easy access. [15:03] tar [15:03] or mount the dd img [15:03] i don't trust windows tools [15:03] or filesystems [15:03] hehe [15:06] diplo: source du's at 65GB, destination is 160GB now xD [15:07] blocksync.py! [15:07] I guess I'll have to go without a file backup and just rely on the image, which is a pain. [15:08] tar should be ok [15:08] foobarry: why would tar be ok and scp not be ok? [15:09] tar is a tape archive, its a different concept. i've no idea why cp, except maybe fs block size (small files)? [15:09] windows doesn't have eternal folders if a symlink is bad does it? [15:09] there are a lot of small files [15:11] same filesystem? [15:11] maybe the small files take a larger blocksize each time? [15:12] foobarry: nah, ext4 and ntfs [15:12] tar preserves permissions better. winzip might too [15:16] Anybody here use Acrobits Softphone on Android? I've lost the ability to access a settings menu [15:16] you can now rickroll chromecasts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nqP8AvXUg [15:21] diddledan: I don't get that, why would the chromecast connect to some arbitrary ssid? [15:21] Azelphur: because the rickmote tells it to [15:22] ah I've just read the article, I see how it works [15:22] when the chromecast disconnects, it goes into config mode xD [15:22] yeah it's not very secure [15:22] basically anyone can reconfigure your chromecast once it's disconnected [15:23] indeed [15:23] for bonus points, I accidentally just deleted the drive image for that laptop, now to take the drive image again! \o/ [15:42] c:numpty [15:46] I love these shoes ♥ [15:47] I need new shoes xD [15:47] I'd otherwise recommend these but the Kickstarter is over [15:47] I'd buy SO a pair if they were available [15:47] haha [15:47] what are they? [15:48] oh ffs shoes [15:48] another thing i have to do [15:48] oh well [15:48] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell [15:49] BAA [15:49] my shoes stink [15:49] my feet don't. strangely [15:50] https://www.dropbox.com/s/jynidjgus7t6xze/IMG_20140729_164009.jpg [15:50] another super easy SSD upgrade \o/ [15:51] Myrtti: fun :) [15:52] very comfortable too [15:52] I'm wondering if I should combine my two kickstarter projects together [15:52] I've got a pack of black Hickies shoelaces waiting [15:53] mine have developed holes in the back and cut holes into the back of my heel xD [16:17] Azelphur, I'd not use scp for large-scale copies anyway [16:18] Azelphur, (apologies if this is rehashing things) [16:18] heh :) [16:18] Azelphur, One possible reason is that Windows does use links for its huge set of backwards compatibility libs [16:18] Azelphur, The other thing is that scp is rubbish at lots of dinky files [16:19] :-o http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/282855.htm [16:19] yea, I think I might just take a separate dd image of /dev/sda1 as well as the image of /dev/sda, then I can mount the image to get at the files. [16:19] Azelphur, If I have to do that I use tar - even uncompressed it's much faster than scp [16:19] Azelphur, Mounting an image would work too [16:19] diddledan: buy me one :D [16:20] Azelphur, I tend to do ssh remoteserver 'tar c ' > ./localfile.tar [16:20] Or whatever combination [16:20] doing tar c | ssh remoteserver 'tar x' is great for a quick folder copy [16:21] I see [16:55] I'm thinking I might plumb the bank account for one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-JetDrive-720-SATA-Upgrade/dp/B00JKCHMMS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1406652644&sr=8-6&keywords=macbook+pro+ssd+upgrade === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:25] diddledan: :O [17:26] so taking a fast SSD and connecting it over USB - sad times :( [17:27] replacing the inbuilt ssd and putting that in a usb caddy [17:27] oh ok [17:27] it's a kit to upgrade your ssd which happens to also include a usb thingy so you can carry-on using the old one [17:28] or even clone the old as i just did :O [17:28] bootup was terrible until i zapped the PRAM :> [17:28] now it's 23 seconds boot from off, for an old 5,1 \o/ [17:48] where's the best place to buy PC parts in the UK? [17:49] oh dear [17:49] dammit [17:49] I went and clicked buy [17:49] switchtehbeat: "it depends" [17:49] I have a very accident prone purchasing habbit [17:49] switchtehbeat: i tend to spread my pc across multiple vendors these days [17:49] I just did it with amazon [17:50]