[05:41] o/ oh hi [06:05] hi superfly and others [06:18] morning peeps [06:18] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:25] haha that things went spooky last night, will check again tonight [06:25] http://picpaste.com/ghosts-f4CTj39s.png [06:40] i think that happens if it didn't load the default player texture for some reason [06:40] speaking of viewing the player, did you know you can new press F7 to change view? [06:41] aha , everything worked just looked spooky [06:41] so you can see over your shoulder [06:41] that sounds good [06:41] then i can see lava attacking me from behind [06:41] hehe [06:42] died twice last night [06:42] i made lots of HV cable and then ran out of copper [06:42] at least with the new way bones work you just click them to pick up all your stuff [06:42] i have all over i think, check in chests [06:42] the old way way pretty tedious [06:43] i can't look in your chests there is no classification [06:43] oh i didnt know that i still right click and drag things over [06:43] everything is just randomly everywhere [06:43] oh sorry i thought i told you [06:43] huh? [06:43] yeah you just punch your bones to pick up everything in them [06:43] cool [06:44] oh the reactor doesnt need a manhole you can see reactor to load where cable comes out [06:44] in creative anyway [06:44] oh? [06:45] cool, i didn't realise [06:45] creative seems to see further though [06:45] either way it is a dangerous thing, they have made updates to it so that you take some radiation damage even when refuelling [06:46] so you must be quick or you'll die eventually [06:46] lol ya didnt you see i said we send koos to charge it [06:46] i've tested in creative though it isn't that bad [06:46] my idea was to use the superadmin user to own the area of the reactor using the area protection mod [06:47] that way nobody can accidentally damage the structure and induce meltdown [06:47] yes thats good random lazer beams cant cause havoc [06:49] was playing around in creative with the quarry, i think i've found my new favourite mining method [06:49] lol [06:49] hook it up to some tubes, with a sorting tube that sends cobble, dirt and gravel to one chest and another chest that gets everything else [06:49] works like a charm [06:50] my reacto9r still shows supply 0 demand 0 [06:50] weird [06:50] dunno where i went wrong [06:50] wait your reactor or your switching station? [06:50] core surrounded by water [06:51] switching station shows that [06:51] and reactor? [06:51] lemme see [06:51] you must put fuel in all 6 clots btw, not just 1 [06:51] um, slots [06:52] nuclear generator core idle [06:53] all 6 slots have fuel? [06:54] uranium fuel rods, not lumps or ingots [06:54] bright green vertical line looking things [06:54] yip 25 yellow rods in each slot [06:54] oh thats it\ [06:55] i put wrong stuff [06:55] oh no they are green [06:56] screenshot? [06:56] sec [06:56] if it still says idle maybe the wire isn't connected properly [06:58] cant take a screenshot with reactor open [06:58] weird [06:58] oh well [06:58] good luck [06:58] ty [06:59] what did you mean you cant take copper ingots [06:59] huh? [07:00] i can't look in your chests there is no classification [07:00] yeah, i mean i find it frustrating to have to look at every single chest because you have no sorting in place [07:00] More almal [07:01] like i have 1 chest that has all metals [07:01] look in gold chest in the deep [07:01] but your stuff is all over the place, so if i need something i need to look through 30 different chests every time [07:01] nah i'll just build a solar powered quarry so long, copper is common :) [07:02] yeah i sukkel to sort it so am going to make just a few gold chests instead [07:02] i battle to find stuff as well [07:03] you've seen my basement [07:03] that works well for me [07:03] for normal stuff i put a block above the chest showing what's in it [07:03] and my gold chests are labelled [07:03] although there's only 4 so i know whats in them for now [07:04] but if you end up with 20 gold chests eventually, labels will come in handt [07:04] handy too [07:05] mornings bduk :) [07:05] lol yeah [07:05] hi bduk [07:05] See you guys are busy [07:05] yip [07:05] all talk, no action ;-) [07:06] but yeah, we're pretty much ready to build our nuclear power reactor [07:07] ish so far. only starting lv stuff now but i got lots of minerals [07:07] yeah it starts slow but gets better [07:07] i don't have any use for LV anymore [07:07] i have a battery and some wiring that isn't connected anymore i must clean i up [07:08] all my machines are now MV [07:08] and I use a fuel-powered HV generator and battery in my mining area [07:08] HV battery charges the mk3 mining laser in 2 mins [07:09] Brager:) Im slow but ill get there eventualy [07:10] bduk, you gotta put up a sign by your house and at the nearest main road leading to it [07:11] heh [07:11] i dont know where you are and the pro has taken over mazal s house [07:11] Why i know where my house is [07:11] we have teleporting and you still worry about roads? :P [07:12] if its right by mazal s then i might have showed pro the wrong place [07:12] :-o [07:13] yip we port everywhere just about now. even got one in the messy lava place in the deep [07:13] why isn't he finding his own spot? you can just hand over someone else's place [07:13] mazal, gave it to me [07:13] didnt you read that day [07:14] actually bart took it over but he has too much work mining , and dwarves must live underground [07:18] Morning everyone [07:18] More Maz [07:18] Lo B [07:19] Oom Kilos , bduk's house was across from my little house ( south ) , not far , about 30 nodes or so. But was underground mostly [07:20] It's my big house , then just south is the little house , then more south garden , then more south barry's old house. But all close together [07:22] you can tell which it it by the locked doors if i'm not mistaken [07:22] I broke them down long ago Greame [07:22] It looks kinda like a castle [07:22] if you guys have abandoned that stuff we should make a plan to change those doors and locked chests [07:22] Already did [07:22] change owner i mean [07:23] ah ok [07:23] I did all mine , dunno about barry's though [07:23] if they aren't i can make a plan [07:25] My mine would work nice for uranium [07:25] It consists of rooms every 10 nodes or so [07:26] hi mazal [07:26] So you can just go make them bigger sodeways [07:26] sideways even [07:26] nope [07:26] if you've been mining there those map blocks are already generated and saved in the DB [07:27] Not if you go 100+ sideways [07:27] trust me :) [07:27] Then it's new generation isn't it [07:27] It's supposed to generate only like 60x60 at a time [07:28] i had to go to a black area on the map image to have new stuff generated [07:28] and kilos went several hundred down in the deep before he started getting new stuff [07:28] see ThatGraemeGuy he took off the steel doors and locked chests for me , i didnt just take [07:28] It works for down , why not sideways ? [07:28] it doesn't [07:28] When I go down 100+ after new stuff was added I get the new stuff [07:28] ok then [07:28] So why doesn't x axis work the same ? [07:28] guess i imagined all those hours of searching [07:29] I'm only telling you what happened [07:29] And it happened twice after adding new ores [07:29] Except for uranium as I was too deep [07:29] it happened on your world [07:29] which isn't nearly as thorougly explored as ours is [07:30] Is the same principle [07:30] yes ok [07:30] Whatever depth you are , there will be already blocks generated up to only a certain point [07:31] Below that and sideways is unexplored [07:31] yes [07:31] When you add new stuff and then pass that point ( down or sideways ) new are generated [07:32] ok [07:32] I can still remeber I was at -700 when I added first mod , on -840 in the same mine got the new ores [07:32] Added another mod [07:33] awesome [07:33] Just over -1000 in the same minde got those new ones [07:33] Except the uranium because of the depth limit [07:34] you're still ignoring the small fact that our world is WAY more thoroughly explored [07:34] If underground then yes [07:34] i still stumble on an old abandoned mining area every now and then [07:35] If all your underground mines are within 100 nodes of each other then yes [07:35] * ThatGraemeGuy sighs [07:35] i'm done [07:35] hahaha [07:35] you cant argue with the code [07:35] For example , if nobody else mined south of me , and you go in that mine and mine south you gonna find new ores [07:36] Because there is nothing generated underground there yet [07:36] * ThatGraemeGuy nods [07:36] sneeky sneeky [07:37] hi nuvolari [07:37] ThatGraemeGuy, i think i know whats wrong with my reaktor [07:38] you spelled it wrong? [07:38] * ThatGraemeGuy runs [07:38] i think i didnt add cable on block below or to the side , it just goes straight to the core [07:39] lol [07:39] reactor [07:39] huh? [07:39] the cable must be placed on the block right next to it [07:39] you know when you connect to switch etc you right click cable below or so [07:40] yea [07:40] methinks the water was in the way [07:40] so clicked directly there or something. ill strip it down and look [07:41] ah [07:41] i build the thing a layer at a time [07:41] and when the water is involved i place it last [07:41] ive already send a lazer been right through the thing because of forgetting to change tools [07:42] so the layer below water is concrete ring, blast-concrete ring, stainless steel and a cable in the centre [07:42] then its concrete ring, blast-concrete ring, stainless steel ring [07:42] cable in the centre [07:42] and then i only place the water around the cable [07:42] you can take a look when i build it [07:43] ill check that out. im sure it isnt connected to the rod [07:43] hopefully tonight [07:50] found the top connections prob will look further for the side one [07:50] http://picpaste.com/bad_connection-UAvcWXl6.png [07:51] you need to make just 1 cable [07:51] ya but when side one didnt work i added one on top [07:51] too much cable leave not enough space for water, and if the structure isn't exactly right it will go into meltdown nearly immediately [07:52] there is no margin for error [07:52] like some of the things only work from top or only bottom so i wasnt sure [07:52] heh, so, charl told me if I wanted performance outta my tld_stats proggy, forget php and rewrite it in C [07:53] http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/tld_stats.c <=== so I did, I went from 4k lines a second processing to close to 200k lines a second [07:53] you're surprised? people don't use scripting languages because they're fast ;-) [07:55] aalston@mirror:~/temp$ du -h test.log [07:55] 852M test.log [07:56] lets see how fast it runs through that [07:56] real 0m25.586s [07:56] user 0m24.937s [07:56] sys 0m0.637s [07:56] damn thats not bad [07:56] hmm... it looks connected [07:56] http://picpaste.com/connected-2T8fdncS.png [07:57] yeah [07:57] something is wrong below it though [07:57] only 1 water and all that steel [07:58] thats sand to remove the water so i could see [07:58] no i mean under the core is a water block [07:58] that should be stainless steel [07:58] and the core looks like its 1 level below where it should be [07:59] supposed to be in the centre [07:59] no wait [07:59] hrm [07:59] no i don't know [07:59] hard to tell when you open up a small piece like that [07:59] break it all down, start over :P [08:01] its basically 9 layers from bottom to top [08:01] l1 9x9 concrete with cable in the centre [08:01] l2 9x9 concrete outer ring, 7x7 solid blast-resistant concrete with cable in the centre [08:02] l3 9x9 concrete ring, 7x7 b-r concrete ring, 5x5 stainless steel blocks, cable in the centre [08:02] l4 9x9 concrete ring, 7x7 b-r concrete ring, 5x5 stainless steel block ring, cable in the centre, water in the space between cable and steel [08:03] l5 9x9 concrete ring, 7x7 b-r concrete ring, 5x5 stainless steel block ring, core in the centre, water in the space between core and steel [08:04] then the upper layers mirror those below except an empty space in the centre replaces the cable [08:04] so above l5 is the same as l4 and so on [08:05] the steel is just 1 around the water [08:05] ? [08:06] just build 1 layer at a time the way i described it [08:07] like one thickness steel cube? [08:07] yes [08:08] good then ill get there ,remember i said i forgot some layers or stuff so then i had to dig under the structure and add it [08:08] so outside steel is all there i hope [08:08] 1 at a time [08:08] took me hours to place all them blocks [08:08] if you get even 1 block wrong it will melt down [08:08] oi [08:10] meltdown can only damage that area in the singleplayer game isnt it [08:10] it wont damage anything else? [08:11] the core turns to a very radioactive thing called corium [08:11] that flows like lava and starts eating stuff [08:12] but sometimes cools to a solid block called chernobylite [08:12] ah thats the russian meltdown site [08:14] but a meltdown is ugly, that's the bottom line, you want to avoid it at all costs [08:17] the important thing is the steel enclosure and water isnt it? one can surround that withmany layers of blast resistant concrete? [08:18] http://picpaste.com/steel_enclosure-Fgfhxr4L.png [08:18] like if ive put 4 layers of blast stuff instead of 2 will it blow [08:18] looks right, now fill with water and the top layer of steel blocks must be closed up [08:19] cool [08:19] and b-r concrete, i can't tell if that's solid or not [08:19] there have been recent changes, so the requirement is up to the blast-resistant concrete [08:20] ok ill try it when closed up [08:20] the outer concrete is optional for meltdown purposes, but it provides some shielding, so without it you will take radiation damage just from walking around the building [08:21] does it popup warnings or blow a siren if it wants to meltdown? [08:21] there's a siren [08:21] cool hopefully that gives you time to remove rods [08:22] too late, you can only remove rods that are unused [08:22] but it still keeps running on the rods that it started using [08:22] you can't remove those [08:22] ah well if i did something wrong chernobyl here we come [08:23] ill just put 6 single rods to start [08:29] good morning [08:29] Maaz: coffee on [08:29] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:29] hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy [08:29] hi charl [08:30] Maaz, coffee please [08:30] Kilos: Alrighty [08:32] hey charl [08:33] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:34] Maaz, gracias amigo [08:34] ¡de nada compadre [08:34] charl... [08:35] I did a C rewrite [08:35] heh look at this [08:35] real 0m32.735s [08:35] user 0m31.941s [08:35] sys 0m0.778s [08:35] aalston@mirror:~/temp$ du -h weblog.log [08:35] 929M weblog.log [08:35] aalston@mirror:~/temp$ wc -l weblog.log [08:35] 4529964 weblog.log [08:35] thats some seriously fast processing :p [08:36] and honestly I can't really see how I'd optimize beyond what I did in there, well, there is another way to optimize that even further but it would take a gazillion lines of code to do it right for what wouldn't be much advantage, so I couldn't be bothered [08:36] lol [08:41] dont be lasy Symmetria if it can be made better then do it [08:42] always do everything to the best of your ability [08:42] laziness doesnt come into it [08:44] write it in assembler [08:51] Hi guys/ladies [08:51] anyone managing a google group? [08:52] vince does [08:52] and the pro i think [08:59] vin [08:59] :'( [08:59] he is hiding [08:59] lol [08:59] not online at the moment [09:00] mail him or sms him [09:10] Symmetria: awesome !! [09:10] yeah c is just great for those type of things [09:10] hi nuvolari [09:17] Oi , what a day [09:19] nuvolari: google groups, why you asking? [09:19] good mornings everyone [09:20] Morning inetpro [09:20] hi mazal [09:20] mazal: why you decided to abandon your home? [09:21] inetpro, I made my own server ( for various reasons ) [09:21] lo inetpro [09:21] so it's ok to take over your home? [09:25] yip [09:25] mazal, se tog ja man [09:26] don't have many hours available and not sure how long I can stay interested so a real home is not most important for me, at least at this stage [09:26] well its there to use and mine too [09:27] thanks Kilos [09:27] inetpro: keep getting messages from specific users that is flagged as spam [09:27] I can't see anything funky [09:27] so just wondered if anyone had some similar experiences [09:27] nuvolari: flagged as spam by GGroups? [09:30] I don't use gg for big projects, so haven't seen such issues [09:31] inetpro: yeah [09:31] It ends up in my moderator list [09:31] like a day after it was posted [09:32] problems that I did experience back when I used it for a school parent-feedback mailing list I remember some parents not being able to receive messages [09:33] due to corporate policies or such rules [09:33] even @gmail addresses being blocked [09:34] that's lame [09:37] inetpro, you're welcome to take it [09:38] inetpro, but take the big one , the small one doesn't have much space ;) [09:42] nuvolari: not many though [09:42] like one or two [09:42] mazal: ty [09:44] but still [09:44] I've come across a national forum for RC stuff that bans gmail addresses :-/ [09:49] wbb [09:51] hi Kilos, all [09:57] hi theblazehen [09:57] hi Private_User [09:57] hi charl [09:57] hi theblazehen [10:03] hi charl [10:03] hi Kilos, theblazehen [10:03] hi Private_User [10:03] hi Private_User [10:03] * Squirm looks around [10:03] hi Squirm [10:03] yo Squirm [10:03] hi [10:05] reminds me of "<3 thunder"... [10:06] http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Heart_Thunder [10:08] hi Squirm [10:09] whew check out what all this command shows [10:09] sudo lspci -vvxx [10:10] jeandre  ~  lspci | wc -l [10:10] 9 [10:10] jeandre  ~  lspci | grep "Red Hat" | wc -l [10:10] 3 [10:10] lol [10:11] is that all you see? [10:12] i see lotsa info [10:12] Yeah, I also did [10:12] oh [10:12] But without -vvxx i get 3 stuff from red hat lol [10:14] theblazehen: that heart thunder is ocd for the advanced [10:14] yeah [10:16] fuck it.. [10:16] <3 thunder [10:18] <3 thunder [11:56] Hmm , I have 40gig data left with only 2 days left in the month .....what to download ???? [12:04] Kan ek maar kom rubber steel hiet by jou [12:05] Hey los my rubber [12:05] B jy nog hier ? [12:05] ish sommer net so [12:06] Kyk aan die voorkant van my kasteel , daar is rubber trees geplant. Sulke hoë bome. Die stamme is wit en bruin [12:06] Kap hulle en gaan gooi hulle hout in die extractor [12:07] Hier is ' bordjie op wat se bome in die dorp mag nie afgekap word nie [12:08] Soos wat jy uitstap onder , so bietjie regs. Die reg voor is jungle , en regs van hulle , al langs die pad is rubber bome [12:08] Ja daai man is streng op sy boom tuine :) [12:09] Hulle is so huge jy het net 1 nodig vir baie hout en rubber [12:10] * nuvolari kyk met trane in sy oë hoe maatjies buite mag speel [12:10] * mazal ook [12:11] Gaan nou maar ophou julle maak my sleg voel [12:11] lol [12:12] Moet net nie my seders afkap nie :P [12:12] Maak seker jy kap die rubber boom [12:13] Kap nou sommer alles af kry nie die rubber nie [12:14] mazal, maal a tap vir rubber dan kap jy nie bome aff nie [12:14] tree tap [12:17] Neewat extractor is baie vinniger [12:17] Het voorheen tap gebruik [12:17] Toe ontdek ek die chainsaw :) [12:18]