[00:00] <MrPPS> is there a way I can make nautilus default launch with the "--no-desktop" option, without symlinking?
[00:01] <high_fiver> Hi
[00:03] <Iota-Spencer> usr13: http://stirkbin.com/a22507
[00:10] <high_fiver> ?
[00:11] <high_fiver>     exit
[00:12] <MonkeyDust> MrPPS  alias nautilus='nautilus --no-desktop'  <-- put that in ~/.bashrc
[00:13] <wagner_> hello! when I update my system, always return gpg key error, I already added the keys, but error continue. I'm using ubuntu 14.04.
[00:19] <Corgi_> Can someone help me with crontab?
[00:19] <Corgi_> I'm using a VPS, and here's the line I'm using to run a PHP script every 5 minutes:
[00:20] <jeremy_> need some help with grub
[00:20] <Corgi_> */5 * * * * /usr/local/bin/curl  http://mysite.com/reddit-bot/index.php
[00:20] <jeremy_> my computer wont boot
[00:21] <Guest66190> anyone here can help with grub
[00:21] <Guest66190> ?
[00:22] <Corgi_> What does this mean?
[00:22] <Corgi_> CRON[14838]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[00:23] <Iota-Spencer> you don't have a mail transfer agent installed and a cron is trying to send an email either locally or remotely
[00:24] <fantasma> hola amigos de linux
[00:24] <kyysi> HOLA AMIGO
[00:24] <MrPPS> Thanks MonkeyDust
[00:24] <MrPPS> I'll give that a shot
[00:24] <MrPPS> Not really sure why I didn't think of aliases..
[00:24] <Iota-Spencer> !es | fantasma
[00:24] <MrPPS> Haha
[00:26] <ejuan> Question: Does Ubuntu 14.04 have newer proprietary ATI driver packages then 12.04?
[00:29] <fantasma> hola kyysi q me cuentas
[00:40] <happyfr0gg> How do I include a battery status indicator on my Ubuntu 12.04 log in screen?
[00:54] <Corgi_> Why doesn't this CRON work?
[00:54] <Corgi_> * * * * * usr/bin/php /var/www/reddit-bot/index.php
[00:54] <Corgi_> Supposed to run the script every minute.
[00:55] <kendrick> is there some flash card software that's available on the repository?
[01:00] <pksadiq> kendrick: apt-cache search flash card shows some: anki, granule, kwordquiz mathwar etc
[01:00] <happyfr0gg> query %s
[01:00] <kendrick> what's ape-cache pksadiq ?
[01:01] <pksadiq> kendrick: its a program in Debian GNU/Linux which helps us to search what is in the repository
[01:02] <kendrick> pksadiq, cool i will start using it thanks...
[01:03] <Corgi_> aaa why isn't this working
[01:03] <Corgi_> * * * * * usr/bin/php /var/www/reddit-bot/index.php
[01:04] <Nickwiz> How can I install previous version of Chrome by apt? Current version crashes constantly.
[01:06] <x_> whats up my nigga
[01:06] <kyysi> SUP NIQQA
[01:09] <pksadiq> Nickwiz: You may try apt-get install package=version to install a package of specific version. This is possible only if the package is in repo, try apt-cache policy package
[01:09] <Locke2002> Corgi_: Shouldn't there be a leading / on /usr/bin/php ?
[01:10] <Nickwiz> pksadiq: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[01:10] <ax562> anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 lts wants me to activate my video drivers every time I log in to ubuntu?
[01:10] <ax562> 664-bit
[01:10] <ax562> ^64bit
[01:11] <Nickwiz> … dang. Got exited there and thought I could get me a 664-bit processor.
[01:12] <ax562> lol
[01:12]  * pksadiq thought that he was in #debian
[01:16] <boriseto> I have a problem. In /etc/fstab there are no UUIDs or any data for the partitions, but I get info back with "sudo blkid". Is there a way to rebuild the fstab file?
[01:17] <purrr> hello everyone, I want to add a plugin to compiz, anyone know how?
[01:18] <ProfessorKaos64> anyone know how I can locate the info passed to something like jstest-gtk? Namely I want to grab the specific device address (looks like a MAC address). each ps3 controller has it's own number in jstest-gtk. See: http://i.imgur.com/30yjavO.png
[01:19] <le4fy> what do you guys run as window managers?
[01:20] <purrr> never mind. just needed compiz extras
[01:21] <ax562> anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 lts wants me to activate my video drivers every time I log in to ubuntu?
[01:21] <Iota-Spencer> le4fy: lxde + openbox
[01:32] <pixlepix> Quick question: Using firefox, how do I set it to open everything with xdg-open
[01:40] <sysmoon_> my raspberry pi hostapd error occured. syslog show me "deauthenticated due to local deauth request" how can i solve this?
[01:46] <sepero> ax562: sounds like a bug
[01:47] <n1xman> how to add filezilla to ubuntu 12.04? There's Official repository inside our office network, but what other "ubuntu" official repo is there which I can use outside the office network?
[01:47] <skilz> nvidia driver, my startup screen is messed up
[01:47] <skilz> after installing the nvidia driver, my startup screen is messed up
[01:47] <ax562> sepero: yeah,  It's a new one though.  I change to recommended and still does it on next boot.  I change to the post recommended and same.
[01:48] <skilz> It doesn't show the loading screen and the font size is big in the console.
[01:48] <skilz> the grapical load screen is gone now its big ugly text
[01:49] <sepero> n1xman: will they let you use repos outside your network?
[01:49] <n1xman> I'm not sure, it's for a friend. But what is the official ubuntu repo?
[01:50] <sepero> skilz: I wish I could help, but my knowledge on video gfx is super poor  :(
[01:50] <sepero> n1xman: there are a few
[01:50] <ObrienDave> quite a few
[01:50] <n1xman> sepero: what's the safest one?
[01:51] <ObrienDave> any official repo is fairly safe
[01:51] <sepero> n1xman: you can usually find them in the /etc/apt/sources.list, they are only commented out
[01:51] <probo> hi all
[01:51] <sepero> probo: hi hi
[01:51] <n1xman> sepero: OK, I"ll tell him to check now
[01:53] <probo> i have ubuntu 14.04 and when i update to this version only gimp and chrome shows pics with good color darktable aftershootpro dont display good colors why?
[01:53] <sepero> I'd like to ask a favor of everyone in here. Please tell me your external ip address and ping me at 75.202.121.136. I'm trying to test my firewall
[01:53] <sepero> Any one that is willing
[01:55] <n1xman> sepero: thee are 8 entries, none commented out. all from precise
[01:55] <sepero> probo: I never heard of aftershootpro. Do the colors not display good in any other programs?
[01:56] <n1xman> sepero: ping failed
[01:56] <sepero> n1xman: I'll PM you what is in my sources.list
[01:56] <n1xman> sepero: ok
[01:56] <probo> ububtu default pics viewer dont display good colors too
[01:57] <probo> only gimp display good and webbrowsers
[01:59] <Bashing-om> sepero: "3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms" .
[02:00] <Blue1> I did a fresh install of xubuntu -- but the desktop is all messed up -- I removed the old desktop but it's back - and programmes autostart -- but it's not in the startup -- HELP!
[02:00] <sepero> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:04] <probo> sepero: http://postimg.org/image/85mw3jzd9/   left picture i open using gimp right picture i open using darktable
[02:04] <probo> you see differences
[02:08] <danikar> Is there a way on the command line to figure out what the current gtk theme is?
[02:10] <sepero> tough questions
[02:10] <JiHui_Choi> hello,all. I want to copy all files but except some on the list using bash shell script. how can I do?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> danikar: Maybe something like -> cat /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini <- ??
[02:11] <trism> danikar: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme
[02:14] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1313590/bash-copy-all-files-except-one
[02:15] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: thank you, but my list file has more than 10 file names.
[02:16] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: ah
[02:17] <somsip> !info php-apc
[02:17] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: So you have a file with a list of filenames, and you don't want to copy the files in that list? correct
[02:17] <JiHui_Choi> sepero : what I really wanna do is, I want to backup some files and write the names of backuped  to "backup_files". and the next day do it again but except files on the "backup_files" which are backuped today.
[02:18] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: sounds like you want to use rsync
[02:19] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: rsync has a lot of options and can be confusing at first
[02:21] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: not exactly, because I will copy files to /tmp, tar, and delete them. but I want to keep the files in the source directory as well.
[02:22] <sandpiper> has anyone else noticed major problems after installing the trusty 3.13.0-32 kernel update?
[02:23] <sandpiper> currently using 3.13.0-30 for now
[02:23] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: so you think rsync won't work for your needs? if not, why?
[02:23] <sandpiper> like not booting, messing up filesystem and superblock, or lightdm not starting
[02:24] <sandpiper> there must be an issue with the maintainer introduced patches in the latest version
[02:24] <sepero> sandpiper: i haven't had such issues   3.13.0-30-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP
[02:24] <sleepee> so far, so good for me @ sandpiper
[02:24] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: Is it possible? I don't know about rsync well.. If it is, I'll try to figure out how. thank you. :)
[02:24] <sandpiper> yea thats what im using, the newest is 3.13.0-32 thats the one causing probs
[02:24] <sepero> sandpiper: I'm on 64bit
[02:24] <sandpiper> 32bit here
[02:24] <sandpiper> i just have no clue where to begin debugging or what to look for
[02:25] <sleepee> 64 for me
[02:25] <saiarcot895> sandpiper: I'm on -32, and haven't had any problems. 64-bit
[02:25] <sandpiper> i might try using the utopic kernel since that seems to be based on newer upstream, dont really wanna use mainline ppa unless i have to
[02:25] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: I think rsync can work for you, but only as a piece of a bigger puzzle. It sounds like you require a script of actions to perform your task
[02:26] <sandpiper> but ive noticed issues on fresh installs, five times, there gotta be something going on lol
[02:26] <saiarcot895> sandpiper: Well, if you want to use the kernel in utopic, you have to use a PPA (until 14.04.2 is released)
[02:27] <sepero> sandpiper: hardware comflict perhaps
[02:27] <sandpiper> ok, but those are still different from the 'mainline kernels' right?
[02:27] <sleepee> does anybody that does web design have suggestions as far as a dreamweaver-ish wysiwyg editor for ubuntu?
[02:27] <sepero> sandpiper: have you tried the other 3.13.0-XX kernels?
[02:28] <sandpiper> ive tried up to 3.13.0-30, its the 3.13.0-32 thats causing probs for me
[02:28] <sepero> sandpiper: perhaps go back to using -30 then ?
[02:28] <sandpiper> yea thats what im doing for now
[02:29] <sepero> sandpiper: then apt-mark hold linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic
[02:29] <sandpiper> im just not sure if the 3.13.0-30 will receive security updates? like the 3.13.0-24 (default trusty) kernel does
[02:30] <cfhowlett> sleepee http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver
[02:30] <sepero> sandpiper: i see
[02:30] <sandpiper> default install kernel is *24 i believe it still gets updates if linux-generic etc is pinned, since thats lts release
[02:31] <sandpiper> the other one ate my ext4 superblock heh
[02:32] <sepero> sucks
[02:32] <sandpiper> easy to recover tho and use backup /boot
[02:33] <sleepee> cfhowlett:  thanks.  i saw that page, but i'm not sure how up to date it is.  i mean, aptana is at version 3, and do people still use seamonkey?
[02:34] <danikar> So I am using i3 on a xubuntu install, and I am getting some weird behavior. I am trying to use the Adwaita gtk theme, and I set it up in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and it seems to be working for evince. But xfce terminal does not seem to be getting the memo.
[02:35] <sleepee> i kinda just wanted to see if anybody here could give me some pointers from actual experience with an editor.
[02:35] <cfhowlett> sleepee I don't know.  you can certainly use the more updated packages and I believe kompozer is actively maintained
[02:35] <danikar> If i do gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme it says I am using 'Greybird', but it should say 'Adwaita' I think.
[02:35] <sandpiper> im also having scrollbar issues on EVERYTHING, vertical scrollbar is lagging and not very responsive, i think its some new gtk3 thing
[02:35] <sleepee> yea, it looks like a lot of people like kompozer.  i think i'll take a look at it.  thanx!
[02:40] <SMiller>  Hello. How does one apply a patch to a kernel source? I tried to use command (patch -p1 < /usr/src/0004-HID-kye-Add-support-for-3-tablets.patch) into the konsole and was asked "File to patch:" and put in Kconfig.hz and was given "Permission denied".
[02:40] <trism> danikar: your problem with xfce terminal is probably that it is gtk2 not gtk3 so the gtk-3.0/settings.ini won't affect it
[02:40] <trism> danikar: whereas evince is gtk3
[02:42] <SMiller> Is see. Is there anything i can do to get around it?
[02:42] <danikar> bleh, I think I am just an idiot lol. Looks like it is being affected. I think I was looking at it when I turned it off temporarily. So my understanding is there are different types of themes for Icons, Cursors and the main themes. I think /usr/share/themes is where main themes are and /usr/share/icons is icon themes. Anyone know where cursor themes are?
[02:42] <tlanix> hello
[02:43] <tlanix> i need help with my laptops's FN Brightness keys?
[02:43] <sandpiper> ill have to check, i assumed xfce4-terminal was gtk3 now too, since it was having the same scrollbar issue as everything else ive been having
[02:43] <tlanix> it seems when i run kernel 3.16rc7 it works fine with opensource driver
[02:43] <tlanix> but when i install catalyst driver it breaks the FN Brightness controls
[02:43] <trism> danikar: cursors go in /usr/share/icons/ too
[02:44] <tlanix> anyone help ?
[02:44] <SMiller> ALso just stating I'm using Kubuntu 14.04. Dont know if that makes any difference.
[02:44] <danikar> trism: awesome thanks. Any idea why gsettings is saying my theme is still greybird?
[02:44] <danikar> Was kind of hoping to be able to set the theme, and some how check that the themes are indeed being set
[02:47] <nf7> Hello, could someone recommend a distro similar to Ubuntu (ease of use-wise), but significantly "lighter"?
[02:47] <bng> hi all, can you help me with ppa-purge on precise-based elementary please?
[02:48] <ObrienDave> nf7, Xubuntu
[02:48] <bng> nf7: try elementary os, just don't add xorg ppa's :)
[02:48] <ObrienDave> nf7, Xubuntu
[02:49] <nf7> ObrienDave: Thank you. It's not actually for me, I'm just putting it on a netbook so I can sell it.
[02:51] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu ;P
[02:55] <nf7> Thanks, I'm going with it simply because it has Xfce, and that's my favorite light DE!
[02:56] <bng> I am trying to ppa-purge xorg-edgers but it wants to remove my desktop :(
[02:57] <ObrienDave> nf7, cool, +1
[03:01] <ObrienDave> that is not a good thing
[03:03] <Eric^^> ulimit isn't persistent, right?
[03:03] <ObrienDave> huh?
[03:03] <tlanix> no idea why my brightness FN keys don't work
[03:04] <Eric^^> if you ulimit -n 1, it'll reset to 1024 after logging out and back in right?
[03:04] <Eric^^> i can't change it cause i only have 1 allowed open file, can't even ls a dir
[03:04] <bng> maybe a newer linux kernel would support them?
[03:05] <opt> REGISTER 123456
[03:05] <opt> QUIT
[03:05] <bng> tlanix: maybe a newer linux kernel would support them?
[03:05] <sepero> bng: i think you have to reinstall the packages that the ppa replaced. it could be tricky
[03:06] <sepero> bng: might be easiest to do with synaptic or aptitude
[03:06] <bng> sepero: yes ppa-purge wants to remove too many of them instead of just replacing the few dozens
[03:07] <tlanix> bng  yes it work with kernel 3.16rc7
[03:07] <tlanix> but when i installed catalyst so i can game it breaks the fn controls
[03:07] <tlanix> wondering if there is a fx
[03:08] <bng> sepero: I am trying to force versions in synaptic, is it safe to reinstall -desktop and xorg?
[03:09] <bng> tlanix: no way, I have countless problems with fglrx also
[03:09] <sepero> bng: Sounds correct to me
[03:09] <rawfodog> my sound doesnt work
[03:10] <bng> sepero: synaptic does not allow me to do that anyway, some other dependency problems or what
[03:11] <bng> sepero: but if it did, would it really be safe? wouldnt reinstalling xorg shut it down and kill the dektop?
[03:12] <sepero> bng: it could. it sounds like a good chunk of your packages got replaced
[03:12] <tlanix> bng is there an easy fix?
[03:12] <tlanix> the display menu pops up when i try to turn down the brightness
[03:14] <bng> tlanix if it is caused by fglrx i have no idea what to do with that, I cannot even install the damn thing
[03:14] <tlanix> i don';t i will be able to fix it until catalyst updates support for 3.16
[03:16] <bng> tlanix: I think that pretty much all the problems I have on my computer are because of fglrx
[03:22] <jeffreylevesque> Is it possible to Allow Remote Desktop into a second partition of the machine you're on if only the first partition is logged into?
[03:23] <Monona> My wireless won't turn on, and there's nothing about wireless in the widget uptop.  Using 12.04.4
[03:24] <bng> Monona: maybe it is not supported in 12.04?
[03:26] <bng> Monona: I would try a newer version
[03:27] <ObrienDave> like 14.04.1
[03:29] <asoma> When I try to create a primary partition on a wiped hard drive, I get a "short read whole creating root dir".
[03:29] <asoma> Whoops
[03:29] <asoma> Let me try that again
[03:30] <asoma> When trying to create a primary partition on a wiped HDD using Gparted, I get a "short read while creating root dir". Is this fixable or is my HDD fried?
[03:31] <ObrienDave> could be fried, try changing partition tables
[03:32] <asoma> How do I do that?
[03:33] <ObrienDave> create partition,  go for GPT
[03:33] <asoma> Or could I try making an ext3 or NTFS partition instead?
[03:33] <ObrienDave> create file system, sorry
[03:33] <asoma> Oh wait a minute
[03:33] <ObrienDave> you could, just a sec
[03:33] <asoma> Now after the refresh it's saying "no devices detected"
[03:34] <ObrienDave> unplug and remount
[03:34] <asoma> I'm on Partedmagic and when I check with GSmartCotrol it says Unknown model where it used to say Samsung HD
[03:35] <asoma> Unplug the hard drive from the port, you mean?
[03:36] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:36] <asoma> Okay, just a second
[03:37] <bagel`> i have GRUB_DEFAULT=2 in /etc/default/grub but for some reason its still booting the first menuentry in /boot/grub/grub.cfg when i need it to boot the 3rd menuentry which would be GRUB_DEFAULT=2
[03:38] <bagel`> i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 but its not booting the right kernel
[03:38] <ObrienDave> fix it with grub-custoizer
[03:39] <bagel`> shouldnt grub_default=2 be it?
[03:39] <sepero> asoma: you're definitely having hardware problems
[03:39] <ObrienDave> *grub-customizer
[03:39] <bagel`> and im running command line
[03:39] <bagel`> i dont have gui
[03:39] <cfhowlett> asoma I think your HD is suspect
[03:39] <ObrienDave> bagel`, that would have been nice to know
[03:40] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, sharpening up the snarky stick ;P
[03:40] <m3uparser> Hello
[03:40] <_2_annabanana> heyy
[03:40] <bagel`> any ideas?
[03:41] <m3uparser> i am trying to parse my m3u file
[03:41] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave NoSnark30DayChallenge begins today
[03:41] <m3uparser> using this bash script i got off reddit https://pad.riseup.net/p/TBG3mw6kPjxn
[03:41] <_2_annabanana> any sexi boys up for some hotness on the phone
[03:41] <m3uparser> whats wrong with it?
[03:41] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, you win, i lose ;P
[03:41] <cfhowlett> _2_annabanana you are in the wrong channel.  sell your goods elsewhere
[03:41] <sepero> bagel`  idk other than reading hoe to edit grub filed, sorry
[03:42] <sepero> bagel`: "how" "files"
[03:42] <ObrienDave> _2_annabanana, is probably 90 years old with 14 grandchildren
[03:42] <motsu> hello, i have an encrypted home folder and deleted somehting off my desktop. im trying to recover it with extundelete or testdisk. neither can see the file structure because its encrypted. how can i go about making a copy of the file system without clobbering the file metadata blocks and such that the programs need?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> motsu you done messed up good!  this is not a trivial fix, though not impossible, I think.
[03:43] <asoma> A
[03:43] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:43] <HikaruBG> and gals! )
[03:43] <HikaruBG> :)
[03:43] <HikaruBG> i have a problem with my Ubuntu!
[03:43] <sepero> motsu: dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/path/to/imagefile.img
[03:43] <asoma> Could it just need dusting?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !ask|HikaruBG
[03:44] <asoma> Or maybe it's too hot outside.
[03:44] <HikaruBG> when I close the lid of my VAIO it won't fo to Hibernate, but it shuts the OS Off and then starts all over. Any suggestions?
[03:45] <motsu> sepero: the home folder partition is 300gb and the hdd in my laptop is 500gb, would i have to output to an external hard drive? the only external i have is ntfs, would that mess with anything? im assuming not, but i know i only get one shot with this.
[03:46] <m3uparser> https://pad.riseup.net/p/TBG3mw6kPjxn << Script to parse my m3u file not working.
[03:46] <sepero> motsu: yes, you need a bigger free space than your partition. if you have 300gb free on your external, then it should work. if you have a faulty disk, use the program dd_rescue instead
[03:46] <HikaruBG> back
[03:46] <HikaruBG> so the laptop will not SUSPEND!
[03:46] <cfhowlett> m3uparser ask in #bash.  this isn't really a scripting channel
[03:46] <sepero> motsu: s/faulty disk/hard drive problems/
[03:47] <HikaruBG> every time i want it to suspend it does, and when I try to wake it up, starts booting from the beginning
[03:47] <motsu> no, nothings wrong with the drive... just me messing up and selecing the wrong file :/
[03:47] <HikaruBG> any suggestions?
[03:47] <motsu> use sleep, not hibernate
[03:47] <motsu> shance the power settings to sleep on lid close instead.
[03:48] <motsu> s/shance/change
[03:48] <sepero> motsu: after you create the image, as root you be able to loop mount it as a regular partition
[03:48] <HikaruBG> no sleep option - the Ubuntu 14.04 offers only 'Log Out', 'Suspend', 'Shut Down'
[03:49] <HikaruBG> motsu: any other suggestions?
[03:49] <motsu> sepero: never done that before, but extundelete looks for a file like /dev/sda/... but wants the partition to be unmounted
[03:49] <sepero> motsu: if you want to see the progress of the transfer, you can use the program pv
[03:49] <asoma> I unplugged it, now I'm trying again
[03:49] <motsu> HikaruBG: no idea, i use a crazy modified mint. the ubuntu community just has better help than anywhere else :p
[03:50] <sepero> motsu: dd if=/dev/sdaX | pv > /path/to/image_file.img
[03:50] <asoma> Okay it successfully created the ext4 partition
[03:50] <asoma> Now I'll add a swap
[03:50] <HikaruBG> thanks motsu! :) that helps too! :)
[03:50] <HikaruBG> oh, one more question, thank you for reminding me, asoma!
[03:51] <HikaruBG> I have 8GB Ram - do I need a SWAP partition?
[03:51] <sepero> HikaruBG: Generally no
[03:51] <motsu> sepero: nah, i just do the sigusr1 method
[03:51] <asoma> Okay, the swap partition was successful
[03:51] <motsu> doesnt pv add more overhead to the dd?
[03:51] <sepero> motsu: no
[03:51] <asoma> Now I'll test it by putting in a live CD and trying to install
[03:52] <sepero> motsu: the overhead is insignificant
[03:53] <sepero> motsu: after you've been waiting 5 hours for the image to copy, you'll be glad you used pv
[03:53] <motsu> trye
[03:53] <motsu> true*
[03:55] <x_> rawlogs
[03:55] <motsu> and um, stupid question, but mount doesnt show the /dev partition name, it just says /home/motsu35/.private on /home/motsu35
[03:55] <sepero> motsu: you using lvm?
[03:56] <motsu> i believe so yes.
[03:56] <sepero> motsu: well, you have to figure out which partition it is
[03:57] <Nothing_Much> How do you tell the difference at the end of the "diff" command?
[03:57] <sepero> motsu: i'm pretty ignorant of lvm stuff
[03:57] <motsu> well, fdisk is showing it as /dev/sda6
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much man diff will tell
[03:58] <sepero> Nothing_Much: not sure what you mean
[03:58] <motsu> im just not sure if thats a fake logical thing that is made after lvm does its magic
[03:58] <motsu> guess it wouldnt matter though...
[03:58] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: "the difference at the end"???
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> Um.. it's only like 5 lines long, can I copy and paste it?
[03:59] <NeoGeo64> I'm running Mint Linux 17.  Does that make me a bad person?
[03:59] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: pastebin it instead. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:59] <sepero> motsu: maybe try dd if=/home/motsu35/.private
[03:59] <motsu> sepero: when i dd, you said i do /dev/sda/sda6. wouldnt it be /dev/sda6?
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7891198/
[03:59] <motsu> NeoGeo64: yes, its not GNU enough
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> lol
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntu-offtopic guys
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> but yeah, what does that paste represent?
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> X 764 /X and such and such
[04:00] <Monona> bng: how would I check to see?  I like LTS because it stays pretty stable
[04:01] <sepero> motsu: if you can do   dd if=/home/motsu35/.private   then you should get an unencrypted image of the partition
[04:01] <sepero> motsu: otherwise, yes, you would use sda6
[04:02] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: if I recall correctly, lines 1&2 are the 'before' text, lines 3 & 4 the 'after' text. Looks like XML source. Can you look at the source files?
[04:02] <motsu> sepero: so, i dont think that would work... .private is a symlink to /home/.ecryptfs/motsu35/.Private/ and /home/.encryptfs is a symlink to its self....
[04:02] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: I was following this part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Check_Copying_Worked
[04:02] <motsu> wouldnt dd fuck up and just keep copying data over and over?
[04:02] <Nothing_Much> careful with the language
[04:03] <motsu> oops my bad :|
[04:03] <x_> how do i setup dos box
[04:03] <x_> hi and ty
[04:03] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: so this is the output from sudo diff -r /home /media/home or similar?
[04:03] <sepero> motsu: try it and find out. if it can't, then it will just spit an error
[04:03] <Eric^^> x_: what exactly do you mean by dos box?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> x_ read the dos box documentation ... it points to the wiki
[04:03] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: Yeah
[04:04] <sepero> motsu: it wont loop forever
[04:04] <x_> how to setup
[04:04] <cfhowlett> x_ http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox
[04:04] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: and there was only that 5 lines of output? Did it say which file?
[04:04] <Nothing_Much> oh no
[04:04] <Nothing_Much> that was the ending
[04:05] <x_> i dontknow how to mount i read everthing about it still dont get it i used  to the windows version
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> There were a TON of files
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> and such
[04:05] <sepero> Nothing_Much: the pastebin means that <X>764</X> <Y>52</Y> are in the first file. and <X>754</X>  <Y>14</Y> are in the second file
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> huh.
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> Ohh okay
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> I got it
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> I forgot that the exclude .gvfs stuff wasn't included
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> There must've been a few of them in that folder
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> But I got this now!
[04:06] <sepero> motsu: in case it isn't obvious, you'll generally want the partition unmounted, or mounted read-only before you try to make an image of it
[04:06] <motsu> sepero: well, it coppied 0 bytes.
[04:07] <motsu> i didnt have it unmounted... ill try doing that
[04:07] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: but the idea was that the copies should be virtually identical, so there should be very few (if any) diffs...
[04:07] <Eric^^> x_: what is the error you're getting?
[04:08] <Richhh> shortcut key for close tab in lxterminal?
[04:08] <Eric^^> I've never used dosbox, but i'm going over the documentation.
[04:08] <sepero> motsu: probably a good idea to be using a LiveCD or pendrive for this operation  lol
[04:08] <Eric^^> x_:  mount c ~/dos/c ?
[04:08] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: Really?
[04:08] <Nothing_Much> Well darn
[04:09] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: From the doc: "The only difference that should exist is the excluded /.gvfs directory mentioned above."
[04:09] <motsu> sepero: text login with root login wouldnt be ok?
[04:09] <sepero> motsu: it might work
[04:10] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: maybe you should pastebin the entire diff output? Unless it's huge...
[04:10] <motsu> wait... if i unmount or am root logged in, then how will i decrypt my home folder :|
[04:11] <sepero> motsu: i usually find using a live system easier, but whatever works for you. as long as home isn't mounted, or mounted read only
[04:11] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: It's HUGE
[04:12] <sepero> motsu: i don't know how you will mount or decrypt it. maybe info in fstab? i suck at lvm
[04:12] <iAmOnDrugs> Hello I am on my cell phone and mobile connection
[04:13] <sepero> both at the same time?
[04:13] <NeoGeo64> yes
[04:13] <sepero> cool!
[04:13] <iAmOnDrugs> Hey Android is Linux too!
[04:13] <sepero> CoolestLamer
[04:13] <NeoGeo64> haha
[04:14] <NeoGeo64> yes
[04:14] <iAmOnDrugs> Android is the best version of Linux that i have you ever used
[04:14] <iAmOnDrugs>  followed closely by Linux Mint 17 for the desktop
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> sorry my voice recognition is off.
[04:15] <sepero> i have you ever used too
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> haha
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> android is the best version of linux that i have ever used.
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> 300 dollars for a phone and it still cant understand what i say
[04:16] <iAmOnDrugs> Anybody remember Mandrake Linux? Hahahaha
[04:16] <sepero> i remember Xandros
[04:17] <Jeffrey_f> Android IS the better option for a mobile device, however, not with how the phone companies have the device locked down.  The original google device, which was pretty much unlocked, was much better.
[04:17] <motsu> anyone remember ubuntu? pfft. who uses that any more?
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> what about Linspire?
[04:17] <motsu> Jeffrey_f: look into the nexus 5
[04:17] <sepero> Forget Linspire, go for Lindows
[04:17] <motsu> its 2 commands to unlock the bootloader and move over an aftermarket recovery to root it.
[04:18] <cre8torx> freebsd ,mandrake ,redhat,
[04:18] <motsu> like, android + busybox is so nice :)
[04:18] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift, dk2?
[04:18] <greshnikk> Hi. I am trying to configure my startup services. So first of all I checked 'initctl list | grep tomcat7' and got nothing. Then I used 'update-rc.d tomcat7 defaults' and got System start/stop links... already exist.' The question is:"How can I check whether service is in autostart or not?"
[04:18] <iAmOnDrugs> I am actually using straight talk
[04:19] <iAmOnDrugs>  the data is unlimited but only the first 3 gigabytes are high speed after that you are reduced to around 80 kilobits
[04:19] <sepero> Is it wrong to wish that rpm distros would just die?
[04:19] <NeoGeo64> yeah, iAmOnDrugs, and most of the time the "high speed" is just 3G around, like what, 2 megabits per second on a good day?
[04:20] <iAmOnDrugs> Haha, two megabits per second if im lucky!if I am
[04:20] <sepero> iAmOnDrugs: usa carrier?
[04:21] <motsu> sepero: all distros deserve love :)
[04:21] <iAmOnDrugs> After I am throttled, my speed test are usually around 8 kilo bytes per second download speed which translates to around 64 kilobits per second which is just slightly faster than a dial-up modem
[04:21] <iAmOnDrugs>  yes it is a USA carrier I live in Georgia, USA
[04:21] <motsu> even hanah montana os
[04:21] <Jeffrey_f> motsu: There is a project which provides fully unlocked phone and full encryption of the device as well as other privacy integrations.
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> yeah, iAmOnDrugs, you use 3GB and you are reduced to dialup speeds. to its TECHNICALLY unlimited haha
[04:22] <sepero> motsu: ok, maybe they don't die then. just be replaces  ;)
[04:22] <iAmOnDrugs> Yeah but I can use 3 gigabytes in just few days with porn and YouTube
[04:22] <sepero> iAmOnDrugs: t-mobile?
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> i know, iAmOnDrugs, i know dude. just gotta reserve some man
[04:23] <motsu> well, im just going to try and recover this one file while the partition is mounted, ignore the rules, and hope for the best :/
[04:25] <sepero> motsu: good luck
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs> I am NOT using T Mobile I am using straight talk which is a mobile virtual network operator I pay $45 a month can I get unlimited talk text and data
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs>  however the towers are not owned by straighttalk they are owned by Verizon
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs>  however the towers are not owned by straighttalk they are owned by Verizon
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs> Sorry about duplicate message
[04:26] <yogaraj> hello guys
[04:28] <NeoGeo64> you know what i like about linux is that its better than windows 8.1
[04:28] <NeoGeo64> you just download linux, FOR FREE, install it to whatever you have laying around and it boots up fast no BS, and you just have a a fully OS for free to use
[04:28] <cre8torx> M0OKWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNKXM
[04:28] <cre8torx> K:::cxNMN0kdolcccldOXMXOdl:::X
[04:28] <cre8torx> Wo:oKWOo:::::::::cWWxl::::::dM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MW0MOc::::::::::::0Wo::::::dWM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MMWd::::::::::::::cOWOl:::kNMM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MMd:::::::::::::::::lkKKKNWcOM
[04:28] <unopaste> cre8torx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> my mint linux 17 boots up from my usb drive in like 10 seconds
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> and its just there. its done booting. desktop.
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> ubuntu is the same way, kinda
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> i just feel like ubuntu is bloated... idk
[04:31] <cre8torx> i agree
[04:31] <thorie> hi, can someone help me with an issue i'm having?
[04:31] <genii> !details | thorie
[04:32] <thorie> when i run debuild to create my ubuntu package, it complains that some of the files don't have a source - is there a way to skip some files?
[04:33] <motsu> yeah, looks like the file is gone :(
[04:33] <cre8torx> my appologise wrong terminal
[04:33] <motsu> it managed to recover the /home/motsu/.encrypt folder, but there was nothing inside
[04:33] <mzaza> Ubuntu Dash is slow, when I start Ubuntu for the first few seconds it's slow then it runs fine. Any fix for that?
[04:36] <genii> thorie: Did you run sudo apt-get build-dep <package-neme>  ...?
[04:36] <genii> neme/name
[04:37] <thorie> genii: the package doesn't exist anywhere except on my system
[04:37] <thorie> genii: trying to create a .deb for my app just for personal use
[04:39] <thorie> but it fails during debuild -S -us -uc with an error: myapp source: source-is-missing public/js/jquery.js
[04:39] <thorie> so i guess lintian doesn't like me having jquery in there
[04:39] <thorie> but if i remove it, then my app won't work
[04:40] <genii> thorie: If this is an app you wrote from scratch, document it's prerequisites and include them as dependencies when compiling. If it's a third-party app read it's documentation for it's dependencies and then include them
[04:41] <Monona> How do I upgrade from Ubuntu Studio 12.04.4 to 14.04?  It's not showing up in Update Manager.
[04:41] <thorie> genii: i wrote it from scratch, but i don't know what you mean by "include them as dependencies" - i added the required packages to the Depends: line in the debian/control file
[04:42] <thorie> genii: i'm not having any issues with the dependencies, im having problems with lintian complaining that the "source" to some files are missing, but many of the files it's complaining about are not "compiled binaries" and there is no corresponding source
[04:42] <x__> how do i make dos box work
[04:42] <x__> i lost thankyou
[04:42] <thorie> genii: any ideas?
[04:42] <genii> thorie: Do you have those packages' -dev packages installed?
[04:42] <thorie> genii: what packages?
[04:43] <genii> ( since that's where their source is(
[04:43] <sandpiper> does anyone know of a way to truly hide a window in X no matter the DE
[04:43] <sandpiper> completely hidden
[04:43] <genii> thorie: Whatever packages you "added the required packages to the Depends: line in the debian/control file"
[04:43] <thorie> genii: there is no source for a lot of stuff that i'm packaging, for example, i have a blob of data that represents a game item in "firecracker.json" and it says "source-is-missing" for firecracker.json
[04:44] <sandpiper> im trying to find a way to preload applications like web browser so there is always an instance running in background so starting a second window is fast
[04:44] <thorie> genii: yes, im not having an issues with building the app
[04:44] <thorie> genii: the problem is not with dependencies
[04:45] <thorie> lintian is saying that a file is missing some source code, but i'm saying that this file isn't a compiled file - it's just a plain-text json blob of data that my app depends on, nothing "builds" it
[04:46] <genii> Hm
[04:50] <x_root> how to "live test" ubuntu with cinammon?
[04:50] <x_root> mint?
[04:50] <mzaza> Any ideas on the slowness of Unity lens at boot?
[04:51] <genii> x_root: Neither of those are supported in this channel
[04:51] <x_root> hm.. genii i want to test ubuntu with other gui, just tested with gnome 3.10
[04:51] <x_root> since i like unity it should be the last to test (as ubuntu 14.04)..
[04:52] <sandpiper> if you want something lightweight xfce is really nice, or really lightweight openbox is nice
[04:52] <x_root> any tip?
[04:53] <x_root> i want something useful/pretty.. unity is both (at least for me..) but in 13.10 is somewhat heavy (dunno about 14.04)
[04:53] <sandpiper> those are what i usually use x_root
[04:53] <x_root> thanks sandpiper :)
[04:53] <sandpiper> xfce is full featured
[04:53] <sandpiper> but open/flux/blackbox are like minimalist
[04:53] <sandpiper> xfce has nice transparency too
[04:54] <sandpiper> xubuntu comes with that out of the box
[04:56] <thorie> genii: nevermind, i found a flag --no-lintian
[04:57] <x_root> sandpiper, i know about xubuntu.. is "easy" to install xfce on ubuntu? maybe i give it a try after install 14.04..
[04:58] <sandpiper> yes its easy to just install xfce manually if you want
[04:58] <sandpiper> and whatever login manager you want, like gdm or lightdm
[04:58] <x_root> lightdm, just tested (again) gdm is still don't like it lol
[04:58] <sandpiper> i used to use gdm but dont like some of the recent changes heh
[04:59] <sandpiper> using lightdm right now
[04:59] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: diff can be quite chatty. grep lines containing the string "differ". There should be very few...
[04:59] <x_root> which one?
[04:59] <x_root> the latest or some else?
[04:59] <sandpiper> whatever is in 14.04 trusty
[04:59] <x_root> latest :)
[04:59] <x_root> seems really nice
[04:59] <sandpiper> yea
[05:00] <sandpiper> im just having issues if i upgrade to latest kernel 3.13.0-32
[05:00] <sandpiper> sticking with 3.13.0-30 for now
[05:00] <x_root> i'll stick with the one on 14.04
[05:01] <sandpiper> fresh install will be 3.13.0-24 but it will try to push the latest one to you too, well apt-get wont, it will say held back package, but synaptic will try to install newer kernel if you dont pin linux-generic and linux-image-generic/linux-headers-generic
[05:02] <sandpiper> its long term support release so i think the older one will still get important updates
[05:03] <x_root> probably
[05:03] <x_root> well, gonna install gnome and xfce when install ubuntu
[05:03] <x_root> any tips to not "crash" any of them?
[05:04] <sandpiper> no problems here except for that latest kernel for me
[05:05] <sandpiper> im having lots of lockups but i know my mobo is bad, need to replace some caps, im sure its that
[05:06] <x_root> how old the mobo?
[05:06] <sandpiper> 5 yrs maybe, bloated cap syndrome
[05:07] <sandpiper> this model is just bad, first one they sent me i sent back after taking one look at the board
[05:07] <sandpiper> before that i had asus, intel board now
[05:08] <sandpiper> asus just up and died after like 8 yrs, replacement mobo for old socket cpus are as expensive as when they were new, didnt wanna drop a lot of money into it
[05:10] <Solo456> What model Asus mobo?
[05:10] <sandpiper> the one that died, was p4p800
[05:11] <Solo456> and it had bad caps?
[05:11] <sandpiper> running an old p4 lol
[05:11] <sandpiper> no that was good board just died, the intel one had cap plague
[05:11] <cre8torx> hello
[05:11] <Solo456> ahhhh, ok
[05:12] <Solo456> 'cuz I'm running an old Asus I built about 14yrs ago that's still running strong.
[05:12] <sandpiper> yea the asus was good to me, i miss it
[05:12] <sandpiper> but this one has usb boot so im happy
[05:13] <Solo456> When it was built, I put an Athlon Thunderbird 1ghz in it.
[05:15] <motsu> man, im suprised electrolytic caps lasted that long....
[05:15] <motsu> like, if there was constant usage. old laptops get way hot inside.
[05:15] <Solo456> That PC runs 24/7
[05:18] <Solo456> gn
[05:18] <mulga> when logged in as root and do a pwd, as expected i  get /root. how do i copy a file to root dir though? for instance i have something in /bin/foo that  i want moved to /? ive tried rm /bin/foo /foo but can't figure it out
[05:18] <cre8torx> amd or intel ?
[05:18] <mulga> and tried /bin/foo /root/foo etc
[05:21] <mulga> actually i think i want it coped to /root and not /? does this make sense?
[05:21] <cre8torx> /bin/foo ?
[05:21] <mulga> /bin/darkcoind
[05:22] <cre8torx> try rm -r bin/foo
[05:22] <cre8torx> cd /bin rm-r foo
[05:22] <mulga> sorry mean mv,not rm
[05:23] <mulga> whoops
[05:23] <mulga> copy not del
[05:23] <cre8torx> cp
[05:23] <mulga> will try with that suggestion though
[05:23] <mulga> ahh ok
[05:24] <cre8torx> mv -f foo
[05:24] <cre8torx> mv -f foo ~ to destination
[05:25] <mulga> so something like mv -f /bin/foo /foo?
[05:25] <cre8torx> cd bin
[05:26] <cre8torx> mv -f foo ~ /where ever
[05:27] <mulga> ok. ty
[05:28] <cre8torx> used linux  before it was human
[05:28] <mulga> great all good. thanks cre8torx :)
[05:32] <cre8torx> there sure is alot of pepz here i guess just hanging around
[05:32] <cre8torx> that's cool i guess
[05:34] <cre8torx> 2 people talking out of 1505
[05:34] <cre8torx> wow hard channel
[05:36] <Beldar> cre8torx, It's not chat but support.
[05:37] <cre8torx> right i know  where so bombed with questions
[05:38] <Beldar> sometimes it is come here early morning pacific
[05:38] <bseekins> Hello can someone help me with Ubuntu server?
[05:39] <cre8torx> ask
[05:39] <Beldar> bseekins, Not without a description
[05:39] <bseekins> good point
[05:39] <bseekins> So I want to create a mine craft server on this computer of mine I'm not installing ubuntu server
[05:40] <bseekins> wow sorry autocorrect lets try this again
[05:41] <bseekins> OK so I'm installing Ubuntu Server on a desktop computer. I want to use this to host a minecraft server. I'm doing the ubuntu server install right now and in a few minutes it will ask me to install additional software such as SSH/Mail server/and what not.
[05:41] <bseekins> For a minecraft server what additional stuff should I install
[05:43] <cre8torx> so your renting a space on a server that hosting mine craft ?
[05:43] <DesignerX> hi
[05:44] <cre8torx> hello
[05:44] <bseekins> no just a server at my house for me
[05:44] <bseekins> and a few freidns
[05:44] <bseekins> friends*
[05:44] <cre8torx> k mail eh shh yeah
[05:44] <DesignerX> is there any known tool for making snapshots (like in VMware or Virtual Box)  of the "persistent file" when botting from iso
[05:45] <DesignerX> booting *
[05:45] <cre8torx> shh for sharing files
[05:45] <Beldar> DesignerX, Why?
[05:45] <DesignerX> Beldar: mostly as an experment
[05:45] <bseekins> Yeah SSH would make sense
[05:46] <DesignerX> also to create something like VM with the ability to move between snapshots without using a Virtualization tool
[05:46] <cre8torx> make a map everyone at your place could connect to u for the dlc
[05:46] <Beldar> DesignerX, You could clone the whole thing or a casper-rw partition, I can't think on any reason why you would to be honest.
[05:47] <Beldar> not sure you understand the persistent role
[05:48] <Beldar> anyway gotta take off
[05:49] <cre8torx> you could check the mail on the server if some one leaves it but why use messaging client
[05:49] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift, dk2?
[05:49] <DesignerX> Beldar: as far as i know, its to save changes that cant be written to the ISO itself (if was loaded from a real disk). I was told the performance is nearly as good as a full install and now want to test booting an ISO from HDD with persistent settings .. it's an experiment so feel free to give advice :)
[05:52] <cre8torx> huh oculus
[05:52] <cre8torx> donkey kong 2
[05:53] <Beldar> DesignerX, Okay sure it's a waste of time with no real clear end goal, I suggest you research the persistence's role. It fills up and cannot be emptied, not quiet like a real install, and a live has limitations like no kernels upgrades...etc.
[05:53] <Beldar> safely anyway.
[05:54] <cre8torx> DesignerX i suggest find a old hd install ubuntu  and forget vmware
[05:55] <DesignerX> cre8torx: I have Kubuntu as my main OS now and VM for testing other Dist
[05:57] <Rohan_m>  Hello Friends I made a telnet to my server for port 22 and I got SSH running up there  now " the second task " is to give/ provide right Protocol ! but i'm unable to find the Protocol Format Anyone Familier with this ?
[05:57] <DesignerX> ok, ty Beldar and cre8torx
[05:58] <cre8torx> telnet 23 ssh 22
[05:59] <cre8torx> are you trying to run 2 thing over the same port
[06:02] <S0RAN-FBS> hi
[06:02] <cre8torx> hello
[06:03] <S0RAN-FBS> emm i'm new user of ubuntu and i like it
[06:04] <cre8torx> im glad
[06:04] <cre8torx> im old user before it was human
[06:05] <S0RAN-FBS>  oh  cool
[06:05] <cre8torx> soran-fbs questions
[06:06] <helmut_> hi
[06:06] <S0RAN-FBS> hello
[06:06] <cre8torx> hello
[06:07] <sgen_> How long does it take a new version of a language to get added to universe apt repos?
[06:07] <S0RAN-FBS> guys how i can install Unity 3D  program  on Ubuntu
[06:07] <S0RAN-FBS> ?
[06:08] <S0RAN-FBS> guys how i can install Unity 3D  program  on Ubuntu ?
[06:08] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: http://unity3d.com/unity/multiplatform/desktop
[06:08] <cre8torx> lotz of gaming questions
  i'm new user with Ubuntu  and  i can speak a little english  so how i install it ? :D
[06:11] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: that webpage says it is a work in progress. So there is no native linux executable.
[06:11] <S0RAN-FBS> oh  thank u man
[06:12] <cre8torx> it maybe worth a shot running the win version in wine
[06:13] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php/Running_Unity_on_Linux_through_Wine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa26vR51PkQ
[06:14] <cre8torx> where you go wine
[06:15] <S0RAN-FBS> thank u  now i will try it
[06:30] <DrNotz> set  irc.server_default.autojoin #ubuntu
[06:31] <DrNotz> reconnect
[06:32] <notze> exit
[06:32] <notze> exit
[06:40] <lestrb> Hello, I am finding a USB 2.0 flash drive that will run my full Linux installation. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[06:41] <Beldar> lestrb, That is not formed as a question.
[06:43] <Beldar> lestrb, Is it the size you need advice on?
[06:44] <Beldar> lestrb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[06:45] <lestrb> No, I just need a USB 2.0 flash drive that will have an acceptable performance. I am buying a 32 GB one...
[06:46] <Beldar> lestrb, Not something covered here use the nets info.
[06:46] <Ben64> you're not going to find a flash drive with acceptable performance
[06:47] <trijntje> performance should be fine once the programs are in memory
[06:47] <lestrb> I plan to put write intensive application (ie firefox) in RAM
[06:47] <trijntje> but try to find one with the highest read/write speed you can find
[06:47] <Ben64> will take forever to boot, forever to do anything
[06:47] <Ben64> buy a external hard drive, much better performance and cheaper per gigabyte too
[06:49] <lestrb> I feel that external hard drive is bulky. At least flash drives can be put in the pocket. I also plan to have a light weight installation
[06:49] <trijntje> lestrb: use the alternate installer for ubuntu, and install lubuntu-core as desktop environment
[06:49] <Ben64> will still be mind bogglingly slow, but go for it
[06:50] <sandpiper> there are a few fast corsairs out there if you know what youre getting
[06:50] <S0RAN-FBS> h
[06:50] <sandpiper> but you have to really research them, can easily get jiffed even on ones labeled usb3
[06:51] <sandpiper> and dont get me started on the u3 nonsense typically on sandisks
[06:51] <sandpiper> usually firmware patch can remove that junk
[06:51] <sandpiper> need to run on windows tho
[06:51] <Beldar> sandpiper, its off topic anyway.
[06:52] <Beldar> so don't get started. ;)
[06:53] <sugarface> Greetings, I'm from #help on Efnet. I have a person appealing a ban saying he was banned for spamming when he wasn't doing anything.
[06:53] <somsip> sugarface: go to #ubuntu-ops
[06:53] <Ben64> sugarface: #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to have a conversation with them
[06:54] <Ben64> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[06:54] <lestrb> Alright I will research for that... Thanks
[06:56] <sandpiper> hmm seems that most things in trusty still compiled with gtk2, has anyone else been having scrollbar issues, lagging and poor response
[06:56] <sandpiper> i thought it was something with gtk3 but everything seems to still be using gtk2, not sure whats going on
[06:57] <sandpiper> not sure if its using the 'zoom scroll' thing or how to disable it
[06:59] <sandpiper> it is affecting firefox, every terminal app ive tried, and anything else in ubuntu using a scrollbar
[07:09] <Jack-zhang> any one here?
[07:09] <Beldar> nope
[07:09] <Jack-zhang> haha
[07:09] <patrick_> no
[07:11] <Jack-zhang> Why can't I use ipv6 in my school when I use wireless?
[07:12] <Ben64> how is that related to ubuntu? ask your school
[07:13] <Jack-zhang> sorry, my exprssion is unambiguous
[07:13] <Jack-zhang> when I use ubuntu
[07:16] <Ben64> Jack-zhang: let me be more specific then too. ubuntu has fully supported ipv6 for many years, any problem with that will be with the network, not ubuntu, so you'd have to get help from the school, or maybe ##networking
[07:16] <oez47> hi need help with my /dev/sda1 was a fedora lvm now is not mountable
[07:18] <Jack-zhang> when I use Ubuntu I can't connect to network use ipv6 in wireless, But all works well when I use Win7.
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> Ben64:  when I use Ubuntu I can't connect to network use ipv6 in
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> 	     wireless, But all works well when I use Win7. So
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> so I  think that I maybe some problem on my system
[07:19] <Beldar> oez47, Fedora has a channel.
[07:20] <oez47> thx now i use ubuntu
[07:21] <imasios> hey, i got some questions regarding cross-compiling some software for aarch64 on ubuntu, can you point me to the correct channel? :) thx
[07:21] <Beldar> oez47, Sure but your issue is with a fedora lvm, at the least they may have info you need.
[07:24] <sandpiper> if you are installing multiple kernels will ubuntu always configure grub to select the highest version by default? say if you update an older kernel after installing a higher version one
[07:25] <Beldar> sandpiper, Yes if the updated OS had grub control, if you have more than one linux install another may have the grub updates.
[07:25] <sandpiper> ok thx
[07:26] <vmusr> hello, does anyone might have an idea how to fix a grub boot problem
[07:26] <yz3pD> ask your question ;)
[07:26] <Beldar> vmusr, No without a description.
[07:27] <vmusr> my config is the following: 1 onboard AHCI controller (4 port) 3 ports are in raid0, the last is a single disk. A separate pci-e 4 port controller with a raid 5
[07:27] <vmusr> yz3pD: Beldar just writing it up :)
[07:28] <vmusr> i can boot fine into both raids from grub
[07:28] <vmusr> however, I can't boot into the single disk
[07:28] <vmusr> I have it mapped via device.map
[07:29] <scubacud_> test
[07:29] <vmusr> but when I go into grub (and eventually into the GRUB rescue) the hd2 that should be the single disk is missing, however from the OS it's perfectly visible via /dev/disk/by-*
[07:32] <Beldar> vmusr, I know a fair amount about grub, nothing on raid but a sudo update-grub is generally helpful.
[07:32] <Beldar> if grub 2
[07:32] <sassyts> hey
[07:33] <vmusr> Beldar: grub2, also if it's worth mentioning grub is installed on a usb stick (to get around all the issues with the 2 raid controllers)
[07:34] <sassyts> how do you register a nick?
[07:34] <Beldar> vmusr, If installed correctly would not matter if on a potato.
[07:34] <Beldar> !register | sassyts
[07:38] <vmusr> Beldar: yep it's installed correctly and working normally. However for some reason it just refuses to see the disk
[07:38] <arkas> hello
[07:38] <arkas> i need to help can you help me?
[07:39] <DJones> arkas: No need to ask, just ask your question in the channel, if somebody can help, they'll normally reply
[07:39] <Beldar> vmusr, Have you run the update? Has grub been updating with this setup, does that disc have the grub files on it?
[07:40] <arkas> ok thanks
[07:40] <vmusr> Beldar: grub updates fine, if you mean the single disk - it doesn't have grub files on it
[07:41] <arkas> i need change unity to xfce
[07:41] <arkas> its possible?
[07:41] <Beldar> vmusr, It would have to have a /boot file
[07:41] <vmusr> arkas: yes, just install it via sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <vmusr> arkas: then on the login screen you can change the session from unity to xfce
[07:42] <Beldar> arkas, Not a update but an install
[07:42] <vmusr> Beldar: the /boot partiton is on the USB stick
[07:43] <Beldar> vmusr, Than that disc is missing what the others have is my guess.
[07:43] <grantw> hey everyone
[07:44] <grantw> is anyone having issues with Octave on ubuntu 14.04, specifically using the plot functionality?
[07:44] <Beldar> vmusr, I know nothing about raid and a separate grub on a usb is not something I have done, but grub is pretty straight forward.
[07:44] <vmusr> Beldar: sadly nope. Also, GRUB should be able to find the disk no matter whether it's missing something or is Windows/MacOS or whatever. Whether it can actually boot something is another topic :D I mean GRUB is not finding the device at all...
[07:45] <Beldar> vmusr, grub is for finding the boot not just discs.
[07:45] <Beldar> vmusr, not boot info=no find
[07:46] <Beldar> no*
[07:46] <decci> I want to create a VLAN in Openstack. then in VLAN launch switch spoofing. Switch spoofing is a technique in which a VM mimic like a switch. All other switch contact that malicios VM.
[07:46] <arkas> i newie in linux world i had windows xp server and now is imposible to have security with this system, i learn linux, can you say me the steps or the good page to see the steps for to convert my desktop unity to xfce?
[07:46] <Beldar> arkas, sudo apt-get install xfce than choose it at the login
[07:47] <vmusr> arkas: just run sudo apt-get install xfce4 from terminal
[07:47] <arkas> ok thanks beldar
[07:47] <Beldar> xfce4 I think is correct
[07:48] <vmusr> Beldar: don't think so, but let's see
[07:48] <arkas> thanks vmusr
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> we're running ubuntu 14.04. and we use iptables log filter rule.
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> we tried do use a log filter with ip netns. the problem is that those, with their own namespace are never logged into kern.log
[07:48] <vmusr> I'll wipe everything and do a clean install only on the single disk
[07:48] <Beldar> vmusr, YOu don't think so what?
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> is this an ubuntu related problem?
[07:48] <krejsi> if I have 24 GB RAM, how big should the swap size be?
[07:49] <vmusr> krejsi: usually twice the RAM, depends what workloads you have
[07:49] <Ben64> i would not do 2x ram when ram is 24GB
[07:49] <Beldar> krejsi, twice is old school, equal if you want to hibernate, depends on what your needs otherwise.
[07:49] <Ben64> i'd say 0-2GB unless something special is needed
[07:50] <krejsi> its a server that will sniff 10gbit/s traffic all day long and write to disc
[07:51] <Ben64> krejsi: that's 1.25GB/s ... i hope you have a fast drive
[07:51] <krejsi> i think so.. I have 4x 4TB hdds RAID 1+0
[07:51] <krejsi> or RAID 10
[07:51] <Ben64> not fast enough
[07:52] <arkas> if i have cpuflag lm i can run 64bit?
[07:52] <Ben64> arkas: probably, but its easier usually to look at the cpu model
[07:52] <krejsi> Ben64: u mean rpms on the drive?
[07:53] <Ben64> krejsi: write speed
[07:53] <arkas> ok in page cpu enterprise
[07:53] <krejsi> Ben64: is there a command that can show?
[07:53] <krejsi> how much max write speed
[07:53] <Ben64> krejsi: not reliably enough
[07:55] <krejsi> ok
[07:55] <krejsi> thanks for answers
[07:55] <arkas> ok now just to ended instal xfce4, i need boot mi pc for to see the new desktop?
[07:55] <krejsi> but for 24 GB RAM I should have 24GB swap?
[07:55] <vmusr> arkas: logout and login again
[07:55] <arkas> ok thanks
[07:55] <vmusr> arkas: just pay attention to change the session
[07:56] <Ben64> krejsi: if you want to hibernate you need at least as much swap as ram
[07:56] <krejsi> no hibernation
[07:56] <giored> salve
[07:56] <arkas> ok
[07:56] <arkas> bye
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Can anyone help with installing a sdk for eclipse
[08:05] <phoenix_30> ?
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Stopping ADB server failed (code -1).
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Unable to run 'adb': Cannot run program "/media/phoenix/31CF98487DE413D9/Documents/javaPrograms/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/adb": error=13, Permission denied.
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Starting ADB server failed (code -1).
[08:06] <phoenix_30> Can any one help?
[08:06] <Beldar> phoenix_30, If someone knows they may help, no need to ask that.
[08:25] <nicelol29> Hello I was wondering if someone can talk to me about ubuntu server. See I want to make my internet faster and get more GB of speed or what ever is it possible.
[08:26] <bekks> nicelol29: then you wouls have to talk to your ISP, to get a significantly faster connection.
[08:26] <arkas> i create a usblife of ubuntu and run now with this, when i create usb i put 2gb for changes, is posible change desktop in usblive?
[08:26] <yz3pD> a ubuntu server doesnt make your internet faster
[08:28] <yz3pD> arkas: yes you can install an other desktop in live mode
[08:28] <redhat_> Anyone tell me how to download youtube video by wget command.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> redhat_ nope. not with wget.  youtube-dl maybe
[08:29] <Beldar> arkas, Be aware that the persistent file will fill up and is not cleanable, the live is basically a test object to see if you want to install, besides a installer and other tool uses.
[08:29] <redhat_> cfhowlett: How?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !info youtube-dl
[08:30] <ObrienDave> arkas, if you INSTALL the OS to the USB, then yes, you can do what you like. it's a stand-alone OS that way
[08:31] <arkas> ok ok
[08:31] <yz3pD> arkas: persistant file is only a good idea if the usb stick has less than 4gb
[08:33] <ObrienDave> no, persistence is a good idea on ANY size live USB
[08:33] <arkas> i say this because i install xfce4 by terminal way for to change unity to xfce and reboot  for usb and dont see changes in my desktop
[08:33] <cfhowlett> arkas reboot and select xubuntu session.
[08:33] <yz3pD> arkas: you have to choose the xfce de in lightdm
[08:33] <Beldar> arkas, You never told us you were running a live.
[08:34] <redhat_> cfhowlett: youtube-dl is working perfectly fine. Thanks :)
[08:34] <cfhowlett> redhat_ happy2help
[08:34] <ObrienDave> blame Google translate LOL arkas> i create a usblife of ubuntu and run now with this, when i create usb i put 2gb for changes, is posible change desktop in usblive?
[08:34]  * cfhowlett still only understands maybe half of this
[08:35]  * ObrienDave only the other half ;P
[08:35] <Beldar> arkas, Download a xubuntu iso and use it.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu | arkas
[08:36] <Beldar> or if there is a xfce iso use it arkas
[08:36]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu
[08:36] <arkas> ok ok
[08:37] <yz3pD> * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu => how did you did that? /msg?
[08:37] <arkas> xubuntu is the solution , but i need endly run in server mode , xubuntu is in server mode?
[08:37] <yz3pD> arkas: special ubuntu edition: ubuntu server
[08:37] <ObrienDave> yz3pD, start with /me
[08:38]  * yz3pD used /me
[08:38] <yz3pD> thx
[08:38] <Ben64> arkas: the x in xubuntu is for xfce - a graphical interface
[08:38] <ObrienDave> welcome
[08:38] <yz3pD> arkas: server often don't have a gui!
[08:39] <k1l_> arkas: you are talking about desktops. a server usually got no desktop at all.
[08:39] <Beldar> never see a live server install
[08:39] <Beldar> seen*
[08:39] <k1l_> Beldar: yep, that too
[08:40] <ObrienDave> arkas, no, server has NO desktop environment. command line only
[08:40] <Beldar> arkas, There is no live server.
[08:40] <yz3pD> arkas: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !server | arkas
[08:40] <ObrienDave> arkas, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:41] <arkas> okok
[08:41] <arkas> no live ubuntu live and
[08:41] <arkas> then of course to copy usb iso for to install ubuntu server
[08:41] <Beldar> arkas, If you are using a translator to get all this, you would be better on your native languages channel.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> arkas ?  copy?  pretty sure you mean dd
[08:42] <Nick545353533> hello,when i turn on my pc my taskbar wont show
[08:42] <cfhowlett> arkas what languages do you speak?
[08:42] <`ajven> Hi, got problem with my eth0 card on ubuntu server, i dont know why its not running on system start. Any idea what can be wrong ?
[08:42] <arkas> spanish
[08:42] <yz3pD> entonces...
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !es | arkas
[08:42] <kz> hey guys
[08:43] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, no getting snarky ;P
[08:43] <k1l_> !es | arkas
[08:43]  * ObrienDave shoots ubottu
[08:44] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave I don't snark anymore, but I do have Samuel L. Jackson mode on standby ... for those who just cant' communicate any other way.
[08:44] <makenode> hello, do you make an ubuntu live USB for Mac systems?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !mac | makenode
[08:44] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett needs a bigger gun ;P
[08:44] <makenode> i'll see, thanks
[08:47] <makenode> cfhowlett: in that web page, i don't find how i can to make an ubuntu live USB :\
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !usb|makenode
[08:54] <muhammet> hi
[08:56] <ObrienDave> muh2000, hi, yes? may we help you?
[08:56] <ObrienDave> muhammet, hi, yes? may we help you?
[08:57] <ObrienDave> !ask | muhammet
[08:57]  * ObrienDave is following in cfhowlett's footsteps ;P
[08:57] <Beldar> all the user said was hi
[08:58] <ObrienDave> preparing for snarkyness ;P
[09:00] <Beldar> this feels like the family at thanksgiving. ;)
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Beldar trying to encourage people to come, drop their question, answer the details.  Too many say "Hi" and then ... wiat
[09:02] <cfhowlett> wait
[09:02] <ObrienDave> this is calm compared to my family LOL
[09:03] <Beldar> not a fan of hi, but assuming it is even close to asking to ask a question is kinda cookie
[09:03] <Beldar> kookie*
[09:03] <ObrienDave> kooky
[09:04] <ObrienDave> and i represent that remark ;P
[09:05] <Beldar> I met a self ascribed grammar nazi in a master class this week, is there like a world club?
[09:05] <Beldar> ;)
[09:06]  * cfhowlett restrains urge to trigger the !ot bot
[09:06] <norman3> hello
[09:06] <Beldar> the tmi was removed
[09:06] <cfhowlett> norman3 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[09:06] <ObrienDave> not sure about a world club. cfhowlett restrain ;P
[09:06] <norman3> please,i accidentaly unistalled the ubuntu laucner
[09:06] <norman3> and the taskbar
[09:06] <norman3> via synaptic package manager
[09:07] <cfhowlett> norman3 can you get a terminal?  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should fix you
[09:07] <norman3> yes i can
[09:07] <genesis816> hau
[09:07] <genesis816> hai
[09:08] <cfhowlett> genesis816 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[09:08] <genesis816> ne 1 has idea about free radius
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !details | genesis816
[09:08]  * ObrienDave takes aim at Google translate
[09:08] <genesis816> trying to setup freeradius for home
[09:09] <norman3> should i reboot now?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> genesis816 ... aaaaaannnnnnnnnnndddddddd???
[09:09]  * ObrienDave takes aim at current US education system
[09:09] <genesis816> getting error on testing
[09:09] <cfhowlett> norman3 logout/login should be sufficient
[09:09] <ObrienDave> !details | genesis816
[09:09] <genesis816> ok wait i wl get it
[09:10] <cfhowlett> genesis816 breadcrumbs: give ALL the details!
[09:10] <Beldar> genesis816, freeradius is bsd
[09:10] <ObrienDave> no, really?
[09:10] <ObrienDave> Beldar, please excuse my snarkyness. blame cfhowlett instead :))
[09:11] <DJones> I assume they're talking about this (from the Ubuntu repo's) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=freeradius
[09:11] <mlap> hello. I am doing a dhcp server on my ubuntu computer using dnsmasq. For this I have disabled dnsmasq in networkmanager  and everything works as expected. The only problem is that i cannot make dnsmasq start at bootup. How can I debug this problem?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave SLJackson mode enabled.  say "snarky" again.
[09:11] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ROFL
[09:12] <cfhowlett> Beldar freeradius has ubuntu binary ...
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !server | mlap might be a better place to ask
[09:13] <norman3> hey that didnt solve the problem
[09:14] <friendlyfascism> hint hint wink wink nudge nudge
[09:14] <cfhowlett> norman3 reboot
[09:14] <norman3> i installed the ubuntu desktop and rebooted
[09:14] <norman3> i rebooted
[09:14] <norman3> but still no launcher and taskbar
[09:14] <yz3pD> did you tried nomodeset?
[09:14] <friendlyfascism> norman3, This a live session?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> norman3 look in your terminal history for your deletions and then reinstall them
[09:15] <norman3> i unistalled them via synaptic
[09:15] <friendlyfascism> norman3, synaptic has a histiry
[09:15] <friendlyfascism> history*
[09:15] <k1l_> norman3: what did you uninstall exactly?
[09:15] <norman3> well
[09:16] <k1l_> if you dont know see the apt log in /var/log
[09:16] <norman3> i installed dconf editor to change my keyboard shortcut
[09:16] <norman3> and them unistalled it
[09:16] <norman3> but with it the launcher and taskbar dissapeared
[09:17] <dendemeier> morning everyone
[09:18] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, greetings and welcome
[09:19] <hikaru> greetings
[09:19] <yz3pD> norman3, so install dconf editor agaain!
[09:19] <hikaru> do u know any zeitue around here
[09:19] <hikaru> lol
[09:19] <hikaru> u install again why?
[09:19] <hikaru> @normam3
[09:19] <norman3> i installed it
[09:19] <yz3pD> and reboot?
[09:19] <norman3> i guess i have to install the os again .........
[09:20] <yz3pD> maybe
[09:20] <hikaru> ubuntu14?
[09:20] <hikaru> latest?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> hikaru, if you do, get a shot or a doctor's appointment
[09:20] <trijntje> norman3: try creating a new user, see if untiy works there
[09:20] <norman3> ..........
[09:20] <hikaru> thanks?
[09:20] <norman3> i have 2000 photos
[09:20] <norman3> .......
[09:20] <yz3pD> newest is 14.04.1
[09:20] <trijntje> if it works there you only broke your own account, if it doesnt work you broke unity
[09:20] <hikaru> i do not like doctors sadly and my sate is sort of low rank
[09:20] <k1l_> hikaru: be helpfull in here or go away. thanks
[09:20] <ObrienDave> norman3, and no backup, i assume
[09:20] <dendemeier> just a quick question, I've got to install ubuntu on all of our faculties pool pcs. We're doing this via the ubuntu netboot method. Worked well for the last releases, but i can't find the netboot files for 14.04.1. the link on wiki.ubuntu.com is dead :/
[09:20] <norman3> ok i will try that
[09:21] <hikaru> exactly uneed a back up file
[09:21] <trijntje> dendemeier: try cdimages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <dendemeier> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[09:21] <yz3pD> norman3, or you install an other de
[09:21] <hikaru> or a store file in any case to change an os?
[09:21] <zeitue> hikaru, what about me?
[09:21] <dendemeier> yeah i did, the files should be here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04.1/
[09:21] <norman3> de?
[09:21] <dendemeier> but they're not
[09:21] <yz3pD> desktop environment
[09:21] <hikaru> lol
[09:21] <friendlyfascism> !mini | dendemeier
[09:21] <hikaru> aty
[09:21] <norman3> oh
[09:21] <hikaru> tay
[09:21] <norman3> kde?
[09:21] <hikaru> i hate fb
[09:21] <hikaru> so im using this instead
[09:21] <yz3pD> norman3, kde lxde xfce gnome ...
[09:22] <ObrienDave> norman3, different Desktop Environments
[09:22] <ObrienDave> hence, DE
[09:22] <zeitue> hikaru is Sarah?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> hikaru if and when you get back in: this is NOT a facebook substitute.  Get your fix elsewhere.  if you to get or provide ubuntu support this is the place.  otherwise ... not.
[09:22] <dendemeier> hmm, there seems to be no mini version of 14.04.1 ?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !mini
[09:23] <cfhowlett> dendemeier use the 14.04 mini for now
[09:23] <norman3> do i install the desktop environments via terminal?
[09:23] <norman3> or do i need to download the deb?
[09:23] <dendemeier> I'm just wondering, because the netboot version for 14.04.1 is linked in the wiki but the link 404s.
[09:23] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:24] <svetlana> norman3, you can from the terminal if you like
[09:24] <yz3pD> norman3, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <yz3pD> e.g.
[09:24] <norman3> will it crash my system?
[09:24] <svetlana> yz3pD, he didn't tell which one he'd like
[09:24] <svetlana> norman3, no
[09:24] <dendemeier> cfhowlett: alright, but then i'll stick with the netboot one for 14.04 because we're using it with kickstart.
[09:24] <norman3> i love gnome
[09:24] <yz3pD> svetland: he asked kde?
[09:24] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <yz3pD> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <svetlana> look here: *smack*
[09:24] <norman3> which is the best?
[09:24] <yz3pD> don't ask this
[09:24] <ObrienDave> norman3, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <cfhowlett> norman3 the one you like and use the most.
[09:25]  * svetlana eyes ObrienDave a bit closer
[09:25]  * ObrienDave prefers XFCE
[09:25] <svetlana> norman3: try a few and figure out which one tastes better ;-)
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !poll
[09:25]  * svetlana prefers gnustep, for that matter
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !best
[09:25] <norman3> ok i will
[09:25]  * yz3pD prefers LXDE
[09:25] <mkrz> !poll
[09:25] <mkrz> eh
[09:25] <svetlana> (which is also a bit windowmaker, and also a bit like free mac)
[09:25] <svetlana> hehe
[09:26] <dendemeier> ObrienDave: I dont see no 14.04.1 netboot files via torrent either :/
[09:26] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, never said they were there
[09:26] <dendemeier> okay, thought you meant that ;)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> dendemeier the differences between 14.04 and 14.04.1 mini are likely to be pretty small.  just use 14.04 and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to .1
[09:27] <trijntje> thats still a lot of updates if you have 100 PC's ;)
[09:27] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, and people were telling me dist-upgrade would not work. oh the shame
[09:28] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave eh?  dist-upgrade will bring all packages to the latest available in repos i.e. 14.04.1
[09:28] <dendemeier> cfhowlett: alright, im gonna do that. I was just looking for the 14.04.1 release because we have quite a complicated setup routine and something with the install doesn't work with our dell precision boxes. I hoped maybe whatever it was, was fixed in 14.04.1. Guess i'll have to work today and get the kickstart install fixed ;)
[09:28] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, you don't have to convince me LOL
[09:29] <ObrienDave> seeing how i had 14.04.1 2 days before the official release
[09:29] <cfhowlett> dendemeier .2 release will be in 6 months ...
[09:30] <dendemeier> alright, thank you guys.
[09:31] <dendemeier> I guess im going to find out whether apt-get upgrading 60+ PCs will slow down the uni network ;)
[09:31] <trijntje> dendemeier: run apt-cacher
[09:32] <cfhowlett> dendemeier I'm no expert, but can't you set up a local mirror for your uni and install all from in-house?
[09:32] <dendemeier> I'll have a look at it but first i gotta fix the kickstart install
[09:32] <dendemeier> We even have one ftp://stw.uni-bonn.de
[09:32] <dendemeier> well the url is somewhat like that :D
[09:33] <sh4tr> any way to reset menulibre?
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> !info menulibre
[09:34] <anuvrat> unable to install openssh-server on ubuntu 14 https://dpaste.de/8cco
[09:35] <k1l_> anuvrat: sudo apt-get install openssh-client  ## and pastebin it please
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> anuvrat  try sudo apt-get update, first
[09:36] <anuvrat> k1l_, it says openssh-client is already the newest version
[09:36] <anuvrat> MonkeyDust, did that already ... no use
[09:37] <sh4tr> i meant reset the made changes with menulibre to their default
[09:37] <anuvrat> k1l_, https://dpaste.de/FyRT
[09:38] <k1l_> anuvrat: sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:40] <hikaru> eloow
[09:40] <hikaru> tay?
[09:40] <hikaru> disconnectedme
[09:40] <k1l_> !guidelines > hikaru
[09:40] <cfhowlett> hikaru you were violating.  ask your ubuntu questions
[09:40] <k1l_> hikaru: read them and stick to them. or you will be banned
[09:41] <hikaru> oh
[09:41] <hikaru> change my name?
[09:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there a colour picker installed by default somewhere in ubuntu?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> hikaru your name is fine.  read all the guidelines.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad not by default
[09:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, okay so downloading gimp :S
[09:42] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, no, that is an application setting, usually
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  maybe the background changer has a color picker
[09:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, oh good idea
[09:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, alas, it does have the eyedroplet tool I need
[09:43] <ObrienDave> ok, if you want to pick solid color for your desktop
[09:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am a bit surprised its not in ubuntu somewhere
[09:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh well;
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, it is not a common tool
[09:45] <k1l_> Akiva-Thinkpad: what program do you want?
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  some apps have been left uit from the .iso, to keep it small
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> left out*
[09:45] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, yah but what is the point now that ubuntu is no longer trying to fit on a cd-r?
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, take it up with the DEVS
[09:46] <mlap> is there any way to start a service after NetworkManager service?
[09:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ^
[09:46] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Software is just getting bigger. :)
[09:46] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: There were times an OS fitted on a floppy image. ;)
[09:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, oh that is just superstition.
[09:46] <ObrienDave> bekks, yea, DOS
[09:47]  * MonkeyDust remembers commodore 64 and zx spectrum in 1983
[09:47] <ObrienDave> akiml, no, fact ;P
[09:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ObrienDave, Sorry; customer is always right.
[09:47] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad,  no, fact ;P
[09:47] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[09:47] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Customer is wrong when customer is wrong.
[09:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, can I speak to your manager please?
[09:48] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: No.
[09:48] <ObrienDave> akiml, and you've proven you're no customer ;P
[09:48] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad,  and you've proven you're no customer ;P
[09:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ObrienDave, May I have your employee number please?
[09:48] <ObrienDave> damn, hate TAB complete LOL
[09:48] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, NO!!!!
[09:49] <ObrienDave> PFFFFFFFT
[09:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Can someone please forward me to customer service; I'd like to file a complaint
[09:49] <k1l_> !bug | Akiva-Thinkpad
[09:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> lol
[09:50] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: buy a support contract at Canonical first, and then notice that we arent Canonical employees.
[09:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, I am going to take this up with Chanserv.
[09:50] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Do it.
[09:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and if I have to, Linus Torvalds.
[09:50] <bekks> MEanwhile, we will return to supporting people.
[09:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm sorry, but I have to go over your head
[09:51] <dendemeier> lol
[09:51] <k1l_> ok guys, i think we are done so far. please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[09:53] <dominik> hello i installed tlp, and i read that there is some sort of gui: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter called  indicator-tlp.py . i found that script: https://github.com/silverjam/Sysmods/blob/master/scripts/indicator-TLP.py but i do not know how to use it. Do someone can help me?
[10:00] <dominik> hello i installed tlp, and i read that there is some sort of gui: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter called  indicator-tlp.py . i found that script: https://github.com/silverjam/Sysmods/blob/master/scripts/indicator-TLP.py but i do not know how to use it. Do someone can help me?
[10:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !patience
[10:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dominik, do someone can help me? Is english your native language? There are alternative support channels for different languages if you need them.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> dominik ask the script writer for help = they are the experts
[10:03] <dominik> akiva: no english is not my native language.  but irc in polish do not exist.
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !pl
[10:03] <cfhowlett> dominik false ^^^
[10:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[10:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :)
[10:04] <dominik> oh damn.. sorry:) i did not know:)
[10:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dominik, No need to apologize. We want to help you the best we can ~
[10:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Good luck
[10:05] <sandpiper> oh hey Akiva-Thinkpad
[10:05] <dominik> Thank u:)
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sandpiper, o/
[10:11] <bunbury> morning all
[10:12] <Snowsun> morning
[10:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> morning
[10:15] <hikaru> what app do u use for boosting mobile broadband that works for usb flash drive sim card isp
[10:15] <hikaru> i need more help on how to boost my speed
[10:15] <bekks> ask your isp for a faster connection.
[10:16] <bunbury> lol
[10:17] <sh4tr> get an external addon antenae
[10:17] <bunbury> those wireless isp have lower speed the more people nearby that on it
[10:17] <hikaru> i have dish
[10:17] <hikaru> a radr except its cgnal tv
[10:18] <bunbury> doesnt satellite have high latency ?
[10:18] <bekks> bunbury: yes.
[10:19] <hikaru> cant access it ask pin code
[10:19] <bunbury> so u need to move to suburbs and get wired service
[10:19] <hikaru> i cant either
[10:19] <hikaru> move
[10:19] <hikaru> i cant move either
[10:19] <TJ-> bunbury: Depends if the transceivers are in LEO - most aren't and therefore suffer low latency
[10:20] <bunbury> ok
[10:20] <hikaru> im a full time mom slash home programmer
[10:20] <hikaru> i plan to make apps at home
[10:20] <TJ-> hikaru: is your problem with a cellular USB modem dongle and its speed?
[10:20] <hikaru> yes
[10:21] <bunbury> isnt the speed ok for programming - googling and downloading frameworks ?
[10:21] <hikaru> acnt download very well
[10:21] <TJ-> hikaru: If it asks for a PIN code that is most likely the PIN code for the SIM card, assuming it is a GSM cellular modem
[10:21] <bunbury> ok
[10:21] <hikaru> i just need to upgrade new ver of ubuntu but i cant with  not enough juice
[10:21] <hikaru> yes
[10:22] <cfhowlett> hikaru yes you can.  torrent the ISO, make a usb, clean install.
[10:22] <hikaru> but its different that radar is only for connected in tv
[10:22] <bunbury> yep torrents are good
[10:22] <hikaru> i cant hack into
[10:22] <hikaru> it i have to jumble pin in order to access inernet form a different service
[10:22] <bunbury> do the torrent
[10:22] <hikaru> its a different service that i am not registered
[10:23] <bekks> hikaru: if it is a tv statellite dish - thats expected. what does it have to do with your usb modem?
[10:23] <hikaru> my grandpa only registered cgnal service for cable HD channels
[10:23] <hikaru> exactly any
[10:23] <hikaru> ideas how to upgrade the usb other that wi f i cant afford
[10:24] <hikaru> wifi are pospaid plans
[10:24] <sassyts> sup
[10:24] <bekks> Ask your USB modem ISP for a faster connection.
[10:24] <sassyts> need helps with staying connected to vpn while using issir
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> hikaru  sounds like a local problem to me, not really related to ubuntu
[10:24] <hikaru> vpn idk any server
[10:24] <hikaru> know any?
[10:25] <sassyts> cant stay in vpn while on issir so annoying >.<
[10:25] <hikaru> my os isnt the problem
[10:25] <k1l_> hikaru: please stick to technical ubuntu issues in here. for other chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <hikaru> isp does
[10:25] <hikaru> ahh ok
[10:25] <hikaru> sorry
[10:26] <sassyts> does vpn have to connect to a vpn type server for it to work/
[10:27] <TJ-> hikaru: Most cellular modems are limited by the radio signal they receive. If it isn't already receiving the typical bandwidth the ISP offers then adding an external antenna, positioned higher and with fewer/no obstacles between it and the cellular transmitter tower, are the only ways to improve connectivity
[10:27] <TJ-> sassyts: Yes, a Virtual Private Network needs 2 endpoints
[10:33] <arun_> hi guys !!! is there any way to install the Ubuntu distro in PC-Tablet
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !touch | arun_
[10:33] <arun_> cfhowlett: is there any other ??
[10:33] <arun_> way
[10:34] <k1l_> arun_: is this pc-tablet an arm device? do you talk about a regular desktop or the ubuntu touch?
[10:34] <arun_> k1l_: regular pc-tablet in which we can install windows 7 too
[10:34] <k1l_> arun_: which one exactly?
[10:35] <arun_> k1l_: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/s526x296/10534094_807587975947403_4597570483604191032_n.jpg
[10:35] <arun_> k1l_: I wanted to know what that thing really is
[10:35] <k1l_> arun_: its a nexus 7 device with the ubuntu desktop running. but that is not a "windows 7 pc-tablet"
[10:36] <arun_> k1l_: yeah its not !!! , but I thought it would be easy to get the gist thing up
[10:37] <cfhowlett> arun_ facts matter when trouble shooting ...
[10:37] <k1l_> arun_: the tablet area is a lot different. you cant just grab a device and put ubuntu on it. it depends on that special device if its possible or not.
[10:37] <arun_> so, we use x86 for hat nexus 7 ?
[10:38] <k1l_> arun_: no no no no
[10:38] <k1l_> its ARM!
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !touch|arun_ no.  ubuntu touch
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !arm
[10:38] <k1l_> arun_: see that article where that image is from: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/27/ubuntu-nexus-7-installer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fengadget+%28Engadget%29
[10:39] <k1l_> arun_: 99% of the tablets run with ARM. and there we have missing drivers and locked bootloaders. so its not as easy as to put a ubuntu cd into a pc and give it a go.
[10:40] <arun_> k1l_: ok , got u !!!
[10:42] <dominik> how can i install catalyst drivers in ubuntu 14.04 for radeon 8750 in lenovo g510?
[10:43] <arun_> k1l_: dude, where can I get Cannonical's Installer for nexus 7 ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !touch
[10:44] <yz3pD> dominik: additional/proprietary driver
[10:46] <Thacib> bye
[10:51] <krejsi> is there some log I can check after an automated installation to see what happened during install?
[10:56] <k1l_> arun_: see the ARM wiki pages from ubuntu. more info in #ubuntu-arm
[11:04] <arun_> k1l_: ok sure
[11:07] <yz3pD> does anybody know how to make openjdk-java use the gtk theme?
[11:07] <yz3pD> i already modified the /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk/jre/lib/swing.properties
[11:11] <S0RAN-FBS> Hi
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> yz3pD  are you a developer?
[11:11] <yz3pD> not really
[11:11] <S0RAN-FBS> Hiiiiiii
[11:11] <yz3pD> i know that i can set the look an feel in java
[11:12] <yz3pD> but i want to make minecraft launcher use gtk theme
[11:12] <S0RAN-FBS> who can tell me how i can install programs usually
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> S0RAN-FBS  use synaptic, or sudo apt-get install, or the software manager
[11:13] <yz3pD> S0RAN-FBS: ubuntu software center, it's like an app store
[11:13] <k1l_> +1 softwarecenter
[11:13] <S0RAN-FBS> but lots of programs not free
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> S0RAN-FBS  true, you have to pay for some
[11:14] <S0RAN-FBS> in software center
[11:14] <k1l_> S0RAN-FBS: some devs want to have a reward. but that depends on the program
[11:14] <krejsi> is there some log I can check after an automated installation to see what happened during install?
[11:14] <S0RAN-FBS> ahh i am in Northeren Iraq  and we dont have credite card service  or  i cant make mony and use it on  net
[11:17] <cfhowlett> S0RAN-FBS use the free programs until you find a way to buy programs
[11:17] <S0RAN-FBS> thnak
[11:17] <S0RAN-FBS> thank
[11:19] <hackerz> good day, i have a problem where reaver is not displaying rssi  as 0s and wash displays very few ap
[11:20] <BlackDalek> why is my USB thumb drive telling me "destination is read only". I just formatted it to FAT32.
[11:20] <hackerz> actually i meant reaver is 0s
[11:20] <bekks> hackerz: Can you rephrase that sentence please?
[11:22] <hackerz> thank you, wash yields very little ap results when airodump displays multitude and reaver rssi displays only 00
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> hackerz  are you sure you're in the right channel?
[11:22] <hackerz> not sure
[11:23] <k1l_> hackerz: we dont support wifi hacking in here. please stop to ask for that
[11:24] <hackerz> oh sorry eh is what i do for security
[11:24] <shambat> does ufw have an implicit deny that does not show up when doing a "ufw status verbose"?
[11:24] <k1l_> if you do it for security you will gratefully read yourselv into the documentations.
[11:25] <hackerz> i have
[11:25] <hackerz> anyway thank you
[11:27] <TJ-> shambat: it'll depend on the default policy for each direction. Does "status verbose" help at all?
[11:28] <shambat> TJ-: I'm trying to find out if certain traffic is blocked in the firewall, but I dont see any deny-rules in status verbose that would block it
[11:29] <TJ-> shambat: how about with "sudo iptables-save" - maybe some manual rule is in there?
[11:30] <shambat> TJ-: will taht make changes or just print the rules?
[11:30] <TJ-> shambat: It's the tool we use to save the rules at shutdown for reloading at start-up... it writes all rules to stdout unless redirected to a file
[11:31] <shambat> TJ-: that definately gives more details
[11:33] <TJ-> shambat: I use "iptables-save" in preference to "iptables -nvL" since it lists *all* tables with complete rules (not pretty-printed)
[11:33] <shambat> TJ-: now I just need to understand the rukes :)
[11:33] <shambat> rules*
[11:34] <TJ-> shambat: Well, the first thing to examine are the policies for INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT ... then work on down for each user-defined table
[11:34] <shambat> TJ-: its says INPUT DROP, and FORWARD DROP
[11:34] <Elijah4> hello
[11:34] <shambat> guessing those are the default then
[11:35] <TJ-> shambat: If no policy is DENYing, then look at individual rules... if nothing there... check ordering of rules in tables... a REJECT before an ACCEPT can often catch you out
[11:35] <Elijah4> its 55-60 celsius a good temperature for a laptop?ty
[11:35] <bazhang> try ##hardware Elijah4
[11:35] <TJ-> shambat: OK, so all INPUT or FORWARD packets are DROPped unless there's a rule to allow them
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> Elijah4  in a terminal, type this to know the critical temperature     watch -n 1 -d sensors
[11:39] <simpleuser> Hi. A program cannot connect to my 4444 localhost port.
[11:39] <simpleuser> Is there a way to check which one is using it?
[11:39] <simpleuser> Or what is blocking it?
[11:39] <k1l_> simpleuser: netstat -tulpen
[11:40] <k1l_> will show you if something is already listening on that port
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> simpleuser  or lsof | grep localhost
[11:40] <simpleuser> Ok, nothing on this port… Thanks :)
[11:41] <TJ-> simpleuser:  is the "program" on the same PC, and not a virtual machine?
[11:42] <simpleuser> TJ-: Same pc.
[11:42] <simpleuser> It is selenium.
[11:42] <simpleuser> https://gist.github.com/Einenlum/f1f18df65021d182623b
[11:43] <murr4y> running "apt-get update && apt-get install openssl" on my aws ec2 13.10 machine installs 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.6, but that is not the newest version - what am i missing?
[11:44] <ssarah> Guys, what is this ubuntu web browser thingie that opens my links on irc?
[11:44] <TJ-> simpleuser: The error is because there is nothing listening on port 4444. It looks as if the hub isn't running, or is configured on a different port
[11:44] <simpleuser> Oh ok TJ-
[11:48] <simpleuser> TJ-: was not running… ^^
[11:48] <TJ-> simpleuser: That'd do it :)
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> ssarah  "web browser thingie"?
[11:51] <Eldunar> Hello there, i just installed catalyst drivers and i received that bugsplat : http://pastebin.com/f1M7SthJ . Can u help me?
[11:52] <ssarah> yeh, instead of firefox, it opens a Ubuntu Web Browser
[11:54] <FilipNortic> most irc clients would use the default browser
[11:54] <ssarah> konversation, thats what im using, on xubuntu-desktop installed on ubuntu
[11:54] <k1l_> ssarah: that is the gnome web browser. just make firefox or whatever you use, that standard browser
[11:55] <ssarah> that's a setting inside my irc client, right?
[11:55] <FilipNortic> no ideé how konversttion works...
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> ssarah  no, set your default web browser in the ubuntu settings
[11:56] <ssarah> oh, everything else is opening firefox
[11:56] <ssarah> but tell me where those are anyway
[11:57] <Eldunar> Hello there, i just installed catalyst drivers and i received that bugsplat : http://pastebin.com/f1M7SthJ . Can u help me?
[12:02] <FilipNortic> ssarah: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/webbrowser.html, should be similar in xubuntu no ideé why someone would preprogram default browser though
[12:07] <elvishboy> hi folks, when I run this command: "find ./VA\ -\ NRJ\ Music\ Awards\ 2011\ (2010)\ -\ Pop\ [www.torrentazos.com] -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sha1sum > /checksums_backup.md5" I get this error: "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"  how can I run this command on folders that have characters like "(" in their names?
[12:08] <ssarah> oh wow bro, that was really nice of you. I was just asking the way to set the default ubuntu web browser and you went to find out how to do it in convesration. <3
[12:08] <k1l_> elvishboy: escape them too with a \
[12:08] <ssarah> *konversation
[12:08] <ssarah> it works, ty
[12:09] <elvishboy> yeap it is working now, thanks
[12:09] <elvishboy> k1l_: thank you
[12:09] <elvishboy> awesome
[12:41] <samurai-it> help me
[12:42] <samurai-it> ktorrent
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  what about it?
[12:44] <Magentium> Good Morning Ubuntu Users :)
[12:44] <knob> samurai-it, yes, you have spelled it correctly.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Magentium  other timezone
[12:45] <yz3pD> we don't know what your problem is but maybe you can use transmission in place of ktorrent
[12:46] <samurai-it> ktorrent is the most popular file sharing but the torrent not strart
[12:46] <samurai-it> start*because
[12:46] <trijntje> !it
[12:46] <yz3pD> it could take some minutes before the down starts
[12:47] <cfhowlett> samurai-it if there are no seeds available = no start.  Wait at least 15 minutes
[12:47] <samurai-it> thank you
[12:48] <k1l_> samurai-it: and the program beeing popular doesnt mean that the files are popular, too
[12:50] <cfhowlett> samurai-it in other words: no seeds, no torrent.
[12:52] <samurai-it> i installa kubuntu desktop
[12:52] <samurai-it> install
[12:52] <samurai-it> sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop?
[12:52] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop samurai-it
[12:53] <k1l_> !it | samurai-it
[12:53] <samurai-it> thank you
[12:53] <samurai-it> i speak englesh vary well please
[12:55] <samurai-it> i instal kubuntu desktop but install programs but graphic interface none because
[12:56] <trijntje> samurai-it: you don't speak English very well, I cant understand what you are saying. Where are you from, maybe people can help you better in your own language
[12:57] <panmictic_> he's from Italy
[12:57] <samurai-it> i speak English very well
[12:57] <panmictic_> or at least his IP is
[12:57] <high_fiver>  /whois samurai-it
[12:57] <samurai-it> italian channel non help me
[12:58] <samurai-it> not
[12:59] <panmictic_> well first of all you have to use sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[13:00] <panmictic_> I mean don't use that
[13:00] <panmictic_> us
[13:00] <panmictic_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:00] <panmictic_> so try to do that samurai-it and see if it works
[13:01] <samurai-it> who help me whit use ktorrent?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  what do you expect it to do?
[13:03] <samurai-it> help to configure ktorrent
[13:03] <bekks> samurai-it: So ask a specific question please.
[13:03] <FilipNortic> samurai-it: or try the manual
[13:04] <samurai-it> hi install ktorrent but the torrent not start
[13:04] <bekks> samurai-it: "the torrent"?
[13:04] <bekks> samurai-it: Did you start ktorrent?
[13:05] <samurai-it> i start ktorrent but the torrent not strart
[13:05] <bekks> samurai-it: What is "the torrent"?
[13:05] <bekks> samurai-it: Please describe what exactly you are doing.
[13:05] <samurai-it> the last samurai avi
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  maybe it is not available, it has to come from somewhere, someone who "seeds" it
[13:06] <infinmed> Hello!
[13:06] <samurai-it> thank you
[13:06] <samurai-it> hello
[13:07] <FilipNortic> samurai-it: try another torrent a really popular one to see if you can download that instead
[13:07] <FilipNortic> if it works the issue is with the torrent itself and not with ktorrent
[13:08] <DJones> samurai-it: Try downloading one of the Ubuntu torrents listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads (about 1/3rd of the way down the page)
[13:08] <jeffreylevesque> I updated my Ubuntu 11.04 to Ubuntu 14.04.  I couldn't install ffmpeg as the system suggested me to install avconv
[13:08] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me with the equivalent code in 'avconv' - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/357
[13:08] <cfhowlett> jeffreylevesque libav-tools is the package name
[13:08] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: yep, avconv is the new ffmpeg
[13:08] <DJones> samurai-it: If that works then its not your problem, you'd need to contact the original torrent provider
[13:11] <ResupineEarth> Hello
[13:13] <ResupineEarth> Does anyone know anything about how backups are setup in ubuntu
[13:13] <bekks> !backup | ResupineEarth
[13:13] <k1l_> ResupineEarth: dejadup is the standard now
[13:13] <canaima> no te conosco  podriamos ser amigos por chat
[13:13] <ResupineEarth> many thanks
[13:14] <high_fiver> !help
[13:15] <k1l_> !es | canaima
[13:16] <ResupineEarth> Hello i just was wondering if that includes how to restore your backup if for example you should have a hard disk failure
[13:16] <rb07> hi
[13:17] <high_fiver> !cloning | ResupineE
[13:18] <canaima> bueno voy a salir por que la tendre que apagar
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> !es
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> i keep finding that everyone uses ffmpeg - https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=libav+convert+wav+to+16+bit+mono+16+kHz
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> why did ubuntu switch to libav?
[13:18] <Pici> jeffreylevesque: because debian switched to libav.
[13:18] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: because debian did.
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> gotcha, thanks
[13:19] <krejsi> Hi, I need help with autoinstallation of ubuntu 14.04. Im musing this preseed script http://pastebin.com/LrL2QNub . The installation is getting answers from this script but its not automating the stuff that it should be after the reboot. Can you see spot anything wrong with this?
[13:19] <Elijah4> hello,does enyone know a program that can erase a dvd so i will be able to burn ubuntu into it?ty
[13:21] <krejsi> Im using usb-stick with remastered os with my preseed file in it. I point at it with this at boot "preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed/seed.seed"
[13:23] <xangua> elijah: stores sells rewritable dvd's
[13:24] <vini> hi, i have an error executing virtualbox, something about missing kernel driver
[13:24] <vini> any solutions?
[13:25] <akaul>  I am trying to mount an qcow2 image using #qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 image.qcow2 it fails with the message ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write. it's a FreeBSD image which I am trying to mount on Ubuntu
[13:25] <grobe0ba> vini, verify you have virtualbox-dkms installed
[13:25] <grobe0ba> and or reinstall all of virtualbox
[13:25] <vini> yes i have that package installed
[13:26] <grobe0ba> akaul, mount with -oro
[13:26] <grobe0ba> or w/e the qemu-nbd equivalent is
[13:26] <pds> how do i wget a file to a certain folder
[13:26] <grobe0ba> akaul, qemu-ndb -r -c /dev/nbd0 image.qcow2 will put it read only
[13:27] <grobe0ba> pds, read the man page
[13:29] <akaul> mount -oro /dev/nbd0p1 /disk1
[13:29] <akaul> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/nbd0p1,
[13:29] <akaul> when I do a tail
[13:30] <akaul>  >>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old
[13:30] <akaul> [1731086.441800] ufs_read_super: bad magic number
[13:30] <wheezy123> hello, anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:30] <muxdemux> how do i turn off the firewall or open a port in ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[13:30] <grobe0ba> akaul, use -r
[13:30] <grobe0ba> i told you that two lines down. i was speaking of the regular mount command
[13:30] <akaul> aah while mounting with qemu-nbd
[13:31] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, unless you set up a firewall on your own, there shouldn't be any closed ports
[13:31] <grobe0ba> iptables default rules is ALLOW
[13:31] <muxdemux> im running it in a vagrant VM
[13:31] <wheezy123> hello?
[13:32] <muxdemux> https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6 <— my vagrant file, netstat from inside the VM, nmap scan of the VM from the host machine.
[13:32] <muxdemux> I didn’t set up a firewall
[13:33] <grobe0ba> i don't see what you're problem is
[13:33] <grobe0ba> ssh is running on .37, just like it should be
[13:34] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: I’m running a webserver on port 8000
[13:34] <wheezy123> anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:34] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's not running then
[13:34] <grobe0ba> or at least, not listening on the right interface
[13:34] <muxdemux> but i can’t access it from the host VM, even though the VM has an IP of 192.168.13.37, and I can ssh to it
[13:34] <akaul> thanks grobe0ba, mount: block device /dev/nbd0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[13:34] <akaul> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/nbd0p1,
[13:34] <akaul> and in dmesg it says !ufs_read_super: bad magic number
[13:35] <grobe0ba> akaul, at this point, you'll have to look at mounting ufs slices on linux
[13:35] <grobe0ba> i never have
[13:35] <GTFr0> I'm having alot of problems using serial after upgrading to 14.04 from 12.04.  In 12.04 I would use cu to connect to serial console on various network devices and it would work fine.  With 14.04, I can connect, but I cannot actually type anything into the serial console.  Has something changed between 12.04 and 14.04 related to serial?
[13:35] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's not a firewall issue
[13:35] <akaul> ok thankx.. grobe0ba
[13:35] <grobe0ba> are you able to access the httpd from inside the vm, e.g. elinks?
[13:35] <grobe0ba> akaul, np
[13:36] <optrusty> Hello
[13:36] <GTFr0> (and I've tried onboard serial, an add-on serial card and two different USB-Serial adapters)
[13:36] <txdv> are you using the programm called cu?
[13:36] <GTFr0> txdv:  yes
[13:36] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, just saw that netstat you posted
[13:36] <TJ-> GTFr0: have you tried alternatives, such as screen?
[13:37] <grobe0ba> the service is obviously not listening, e.g., is not running
[13:37] <grobe0ba> check your configuration
[13:37] <GTFr0> TJ-: I tried minicom and that did the same thing as cu
[13:37] <grobe0ba> TJ-, that might be okay for troubleshooting, but cu is the defacto standard of serial port comms
[13:37] <TJ-> grobe0ba: my point exactly
[13:38] <GTFr0> the odd part is that 12.04 works fine with cu
[13:38] <GTFr0> on the same machine, using the same serial ports
[13:38] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: i just added curl logs https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6
[13:39] <TJ-> GTFr0: Are you able to test with the older 12.04 kernel on 14.04 userspace? I'm wondering if a tty discipline is at fault
[13:39] <muxdemux> the service is reachable from inside the VM via 127.0.0.1:8000
[13:39] <wheezy123> anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:39] <muxdemux> but not from the host via 192.168.13.37:8000
[13:39] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's possible that w/e vagrant box you used is firewalled by default
[13:40] <grobe0ba> in the vm, sudo iptables -S
[13:40] <grobe0ba> and pastebin it
[13:40] <GTFr0> TJ-: I haven't tried that, are there packages in the 14.04 repos that would allow me to downgrade kernels, or would I have to compile my own?
[13:40] <akaul> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/nbd0p1 /disk1/ this was the command I was able to mount..
[13:40] <TJ-> GTFr0: also, have you tried "--debug all" ?
[13:41] <TJ-> GTFr0: With you saying it was an upgrade, I was assuming at least one of the 12.04 kernels would remain
[13:41] <txdv> GTFr0: if you want to know you either contact the dude who packaged cu, or the dude who wrote cu
[13:41] <Nick545353533> is unity tweak tool good for customizing ubuntu?
[13:41] <txdv> best course is to download both sources for 12.04 and 14.04 and make a diff on them
[13:41] <Nick545353533> or is it a better one that exists out there?
[13:41] <k1l> Nick545353533: yes
[13:41] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6#file-vm_iptables-log
[13:41] <Nick545353533> do you have it k1l?
[13:41] <txdv> if there is no difference then ubuntu messedu p
[13:42] <k1l> Nick545353533: that is the official unity settings tool
[13:42] <grobe0ba> txdv, it's not the problem of the guy who wrote it
[13:42] <xangua> Nick545353533: it's good to configure it, maybe you are referring to something more with"customize"
[13:42] <grobe0ba> it works fine on several other OSes, in it's latest incarnation
[13:42] <GTFr0> TJ-: I would have to check, but I might have done a clean reinstall on this machine
[13:42] <txdv> grobe0ba: as alwayus it is the problem of the user
[13:42] <Nick545353533> well xangua i mean to make my desktop look better effects icons that kind of stuff:)
[13:43] <GTFr0> (I've had the LTS -> LTS upgrade completely break the OS in the past)
[13:43]  * muxdemux goes to read about iptables
[13:43] <grobe0ba> txdv, the user or the packager
[13:43] <TJ-> GTFr0: OK ... another question: are the ports true ttyS or ttyUSB or ttyM or something else?
[13:43] <xangua> Nick545353533: what kind of stuff is"better effect icons"?
[13:43] <grobe0ba> i'm simply saying the it isn't that of the person who wrote it IN THIS CASE
[13:43] <txdv> I never upgrade, only fresh installs
[13:43] <GTFr0> TJ-: I've tried both ttyS and ttyUSB
[13:43] <grobe0ba> since it works on a variety of other platforms without fail
[13:43] <txdv> too much hassle when smoething goes bad
[13:43] <GTFr0> like I said in the original post
[13:44] <GTFr0> I tried onboard serial, an add-on serial card and multiple USB adapters (Prolific and FTDI)
[13:44] <Nick545353533> oh i meant to make my desktop look better and to have another effects
[13:44] <TJ-> GTFr0: I may have missed your original post... I was busy elsewhere :)
[13:44] <Nick545353533> like when you open and close something to make a sound etc
[13:44] <Nick545353533> 3d effects etc
[13:44] <TJ-> GTFr0: OK, if you can test against screen and it suffers the same way that'd point to a kernel issue
[13:44] <GTFr0> TJ-: OK, let me try that
[13:44] <xangua> Nick545353533: to configure compiz effects you use the compiz settings manager
[13:45] <TJ-> GTFr0: also, a long-shot, but have you tried using "sudo cu ..." ?
[13:45] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, so, iptables is set up correctly, allow all
[13:45] <GTFr0> TJ-: running cu as root errors out
[13:45] <GTFr0> says the line is in use
[13:45] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, post another netstat
[13:45] <grobe0ba> run it again
[13:45] <GTFr0> (not sure why, I thought that was really weird)
[13:45] <GTFr0> and my user is a part of the dialout group, so permissions should be OK
[13:46] <vini> need some help with virtualbox
[13:46] <GTFr0> brb, gonna reboot into ubuntu
[13:46] <TJ-> GTFr0: that is weird
[13:48] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6#file-vm_netstat-log shows that port 8000 is being listened to in the VM
[13:48] <muxdemux> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:8000          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1980/python
[13:48] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, yeah it does NOW
[13:49] <grobe0ba> the first netstat you posted it doesn't
[13:49] <grobe0ba> have you tried from the host lately?
[13:49] <muxdemux> yea, i had changed teh port
[13:49] <grobe0ba> i don't know what the problem is then
[13:49] <grobe0ba> iptables is fine
[13:49] <muxdemux> weird
[13:49] <muxdemux> maybe its a virtual box thing?
[13:49] <grobe0ba> i'm assuming it's using virtualbox's host adapter set up thingy which should work
[13:49] <muxdemux> this is vagrant, administering virtualbox
[13:50] <grobe0ba> presumably it's a virtual box thing
[13:50] <grobe0ba> vagrant is just a fancy front end
[13:50] <muxdemux> right
[13:50] <TJ-> muxdemux: The process is listening on localhost not 0.0.0.0
[13:50] <grobe0ba> TJ-, crap, how did i not see that....
[13:50] <muxdemux> ooooo TJ-
[13:50] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, yeah
[13:50] <vini> i have some problems running virtualbox because of kernel drivers, any solutions please?
[13:50] <grobe0ba> quit listening to localhost only :P
[13:50] <muxdemux> where did you see it?
[13:50] <TJ-> grobe0ba: blind spots... the bane of our lives!
[13:50] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, in the netstat
[13:51] <grobe0ba> TJ-, indeed
 tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:8000          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1980/python
[13:51] <muxdemux> should be 0.0.0.0:8000 instead?
[13:51] <grobe0ba> ^
[13:51] <grobe0ba> yes
[13:51] <muxdemux> interesting...
[13:51] <grobe0ba> your config file for httpd is wrong
[13:51] <grobe0ba> it's listening only to localhost
[13:51] <grobe0ba> it needs to listen to all addresses
[13:51] <TJ-> muxdemux: That, or at least a route-able IP of one if the VM's interfaces
[13:52] <muxdemux> uh hmmm this is a python webserver, specifically django. would httpd still come into play?
[13:52]  * muxdemux doesnt know what httpd
[13:52]  * muxdemux thinks that its apache
[13:52]  * muxdemux thinks maybe he has to configure django properly
[13:53] <grobe0ba> yes
[13:53] <grobe0ba> it usually helps to configure things
[13:53] <Pici> muxdemux: if you are running django from manage.py, it only listens on 127.0.0.1 by default.
[13:53] <muxdemux> Pici: I am!
[13:53] <muxdemux> do you know how to change that?
[13:54] <CustardPie> Ubuntu 14.04: I've just been configuring apache2 and /var/www to be more secure, /var/www is "drw-r--r-- 2 www-data www-data". Though now I am trying to upload files to that folder via SFTP and I can't because on write access (logging in as an admin user). How do I set permissions in such a way that I'm able to upload files?
[13:54] <muxdemux> I’m a django noob
[13:54] <grobe0ba> CustardPie, make sure the user you're using is in the same group as the directory
[13:54] <grobe0ba> and set 664 instead of 644
[13:54] <grobe0ba> e.g., group rw, not just r
[13:54] <Pici> muxdemux: uh.. manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:8000
[13:55] <muxdemux> nice
[13:56] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: Great point, I'll add that user to the group and test it out
[13:56] <grobe0ba> CustardPie, you have to set group=+rw as well
[13:56] <grobe0ba> otherwise that will have no effect
[13:57] <GTFr0> TJ-: I just tried screen, and it seems to work fine.  must be a problem with cu?
[13:59] <grobe0ba> GTFr0, probably. contact the package maintainer
[13:59] <grobe0ba> not the author of cu
[14:00] <muxdemux> wooo hoooo!!!!  http://i.imgur.com/TCX1Tbc.png  TJ- grobe0ba Pici  You
[14:00] <muxdemux> You’re the best guise!
[14:00] <Pici> muxdemux: :)
[14:00] <grobe0ba> yah, we are tits
[14:02] <TJ-> GTFr0: what kind of devices are on the ends of the serial links? Could it be a baud-rate/parity/stop-bit issue? Have you tried explicitly setting them? If you are explicitly setting them, have you tried allowing it to use defaults?
[14:03] <TJ-> GTFr0: I could test it here against a similar device, if you can show me the command-line you are using
[14:04] <TJ-> GTFr0: unfortunately though most of my serial consoles are via a network access server
[14:04] <GTFr0> TJ-: I've specifically seen happening when connecting to a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and two different Aruba Instant access points (IAP-93, IAP-105)
[14:05] <GTFr0> I've also seen this happen with HP Procurve switches
[14:05] <GTFr0> as well
[14:06] <GTFr0> TJ-: the command line I was using is pretty simple
[14:06] <GTFr0> TJ-: cu -l /dev/ttyS4 -s 9600
[14:06] <GTFr0> (if the device requires 9600 speed)
[14:06] <TJ-> GTFr0: I'll try it here, hang on
[14:08] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: I added the my user to the www-data group (the user/group created by apache), using "getent group www-data", and it only shows "www-data:x:33:myuser". When trying to upload files, it states "open for write: permission denied" when trying to upload, running ls -l on /var/www/html shows: "drw-rw-r-- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 27 14:17 html"... any ideas?
[14:10] <grobe0ba> are you attempting to overwrite files that are already there?
[14:10] <CustardPie> Nah, it's completely empty
[14:10] <CustardPie> New server set up
[14:11] <grobe0ba> hmm
[14:11] <grobe0ba> try 775 vice 644
[14:11] <grobe0ba> it shouldn't matter, but i've seen some weirdness like that
[14:12] <TJ-> GTFr0: Same issue here
[14:13] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: It worked after doing "chmod -R 775 /var/www". Is this a security concern?
[14:13] <k_sze> There seems to be a problem with the Lubuntu torrent.
[14:13] <grobe0ba> not that i can see
[14:14] <k_sze> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[14:15] <GTFr0> TJ-: (I hate to say this but)... good... I thought I was crazy because it didn't work
[14:15] <TJ-> GTFr0: I've got a serial port analyser on it, and there's no transmit, instead it resets the line
[14:15] <k_sze> As soon as I add it in Transmission, it tells me "Tracker returned error: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."
[14:16] <DJones> k_sze: Just trying it myself, just doesn't seem to be connecting to any peers
[14:17] <TJ-> GTFr0: haha: try adding "--nostop" :)
[14:17] <KomaZ> hi all
[14:17] <KomaZ> there are some problem with the repository ?
[14:17] <KomaZ> http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/multiverse/source/Sources
[14:18] <k_sze> DJones: I seem to be getting peers through DHT.
[14:18] <k_sze> It's the http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 tracker that rejects the torrent.
[14:19] <DJones> k_sze: Try http://torrent.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/ That lists a 14.04.1 torrent, maybe the 14.04 torrent has been removed now that the .1 release has been made
[14:19] <hesco> Looking at /etc/debian_version says jessie/testing.  But I need a way of introspecting the system to learn I am working with trusty before I am able to install puppet and facter.  How can I do that please?
[14:19] <yz3pD> i downloaded a file with transmission from ubuntu (14.04.1) and it worked fine
[14:19] <Pici> hesco: look at /etc/issue and/or lsb_release
[14:20] <k_sze> DJones: ah, that's probably why
[14:20] <k_sze> DJones: the wiki and the lubuntu website still list the old torrents though.
[14:20] <DJones> k_sze: Possibly still in the process of being updated
[14:21] <k_sze> What is it about the 14.04.1 update?
[14:21] <DJones> k_sze: Its an updated iso with all the individual updates since the original 14.04 release included
[14:27] <TJ-> GTFr0: here may be the problem, revealed by strace: "ioctl(3, TIOCSCTTY, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)"  fd 3 is the tty port, fd 0 is stdin, TIOCSCTTY is to set the controlling terminal
[14:27] <GTFr0> TJ-: so would that be a bug with cu?
[14:28] <TJ-> GTFr0: investigating... looks like permissions
[14:28] <gian> !list
[14:30] <TJ-> GTFr0: "sudo adduser uucp dialout" :)
[14:31] <GTFr0> seriously?
[14:31] <GTFr0> the uucp user isn't in the dialout group?
[14:32] <TJ-> GTFr0: hmmm, that helped, but wasn't enough ... this is intriguing
[14:34] <hyde> Why am I not seeing a desktop upgrade to 14.04.1 (from 12.04.4)? I thought it's out already and upgradeable.
[14:34] <hyde> IOW, is the problem in my system, or is it just not available yet?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> hyde sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p
[14:35] <Noiro> what's the name of the settings manager in ubuntu. I'm controlling my comp from afar but since I have the unity action bar hidden, I can't get to anything as my mouse movements don't pick up
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Noiro: grep Exec /usr/share/applications/*.desktop | grep -i settings
[14:35] <cfhowlett> hyde it's available but for some reason, the .1 release doesn't trigger upgrade offer.  could be a bug or something still being processed
[14:36] <hyde> cfhowlett: thanks, but is that command right?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> hyde run that command it watch your terminal
[14:36] <hyde> ah, extra "apt@ there
[14:37] <Noiro> I see landscape-client-settings and /usr/share/applications/onboard-settings.desktop:Exec=onboard-settings
[14:37] <hyde> sudo do-release-upgrade -p # this started doing the upgrade, thanks!
[14:38] <cfhowlett> hyde happy2help
[14:38] <ceed^> I am going to install Ubuntu on a laptop exactly the same as the one I have. It's going to have the same configuration. Can I simply copy /etc/apt over after install and run an update/upgrade without problems?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> hyde: Precise is LTS too you know, supported til April 2017....
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> hyde: imho, if precise ain't broke, don't fix it
[14:38] <raivis> hi to all, can i install flash player to mozilla or chromium? me lubuntu 11.04
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ceed^: you will want the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> raivis: Natty is EOL and no longer supported in any way
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ceed^ great question!  If the hardware match is exact and the programs / apps are the same - yes
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !natty | naraivis
[14:39] <hyde> ActionParsnip: well, I use this as a desktop machine, and it's nice to have fresh software... why wait longer than .1 release?
[14:40] <Noiro> i just need to get the unity bar to stop auto-hiding
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> raivis: I'd suggest you remove Natty and do a clean install of Trusty which is LTS and supported til April 2019
[14:40] <raivis> kto govorit po russki? ja nichevo ne ponimaju
[14:40] <hyde> ActionParsnip: this particular install actually started with 9.04 :)
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !ru|raivis
[14:40] <jeffreylevesque> anyone use some kind of 'Grub Customizer'?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: what do you wnat to achieve with Grub?
[14:41] <hyde> vi (or nano or whatever) and gimp, what more do you need?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> raivis  it works but you cannot install or upgrade anything, because the repos (sources) are no longer available
[14:41] <cfhowlett> raivis and you have no security updates ...
[14:41] <FapFlop|Work> Did 8.8.8.8 just go down?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> FapFlop|Work: replying ok here
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> FapFlop|Work  ping it to find out
[14:41] <poobutt> Noiro got to system settings - appearance - behavior can adjust there usually
[14:42] <FapFlop|Work> No response for me. Weird.
[14:42] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: Windows 7 is on my original partition.  Ubuntu Server 14.04 is on my second partition.  I want it to default to windows 7, and some of entries at startup are duplicated within the GRUB bootloader
[14:42] <raivis> then than not to install?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: you dont need a customizer fr that, you need 2 commands
[14:42] <cfhowlett> raivis install 14.04
[14:42] <raivis> cfhowlett- lubuntu?
[14:43] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I was looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[14:43] <Noiro> poobutt, I couldn't get to systme settings since I couldn't get to the gui stuff
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | raivis lubuntu would work.
[14:44] <ceed^> cfhowlett, thanks. I will try and see if it works. I need to find a way to copy the keys also.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the number in the filename dictates the order, so if you put the windows one as a lower number than the Linux ones, it will be top
[14:44] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I installed GRUB on the master boot record.  Will I be able to do as you suggested? And, could you explain the reason of the moving the file?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: making Windows default
[14:44] <poobutt> Noiro: sorry but what do you mean no gui?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the location of Grub is moot, the config will update it as needed
[14:45] <cfhowlett> ceed^ I think you can backup/copy your keys then import/restore in the new machine
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: just like you don't concern yourself when new kernels install, do you ?
[14:45] <Noiro> nvm, I figured it out. For future reference: gsettings set org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ launcher-hide-mode 0
[14:45] <Noiro>    will unhide the unity bar command-line
[14:45] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: no, not really.  But, what are those files we are moving?
[14:46] <poobutt> Noiro: ok cool
[14:46] <ceed^> cfhowlett, okay thanks. Looks like 'sudo apt-key exportall > ~/Repo.keys' works. Then I can just import them again on the new machine
[14:46] <raivis> tak i do not understand can be to install it or not? answer with a yes or no. otherwise do not understand, do not speak English by, translated by translators
[14:46] <cfhowlett> ceed^ nice
[14:47] <cfhowlett> raivis what language do you speak
[14:47] <cfhowlett> raivis yes lubuntu 14.04
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> raivis  install lubuntu 14.04
[14:48] <yz3pD> lubuntu 14.04.1
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: they dictate the order in grub, when you run update-grub they are read and used to make the /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[14:51] <raivis> i am speak russian
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[14:51] <cfhowlett> raivis lubuntu 14.04 da
[14:51] <vigneshfelix> hi
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: its why Grub2 is great compared to Grub
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the config in those files will affect all kernels in te future too, dead handy
[14:52] <raivis> cfhowlett na lubuntu 11.04. ne kak?
[14:53] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: i trust your knowledge.  I'm trying to understand `sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober`
[14:53] <cfhowlett> raivis lubuntu 14.04 nyet
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  don't confuse the guy, now he thinks you're russian
[14:54] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust Black Russian maybe ...
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> raivis  type /join # #ubuntu-ru
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> raivis  type /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:58] <ntrnx64> hi allllll
[14:58] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift yet, dk2?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> skwishy  what if someone is?
[14:58] <Pici> skwishy: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !ot|skwishy off-topic
[14:59] <cfhowlett> ntrnx64 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[15:00] <raivis> a na terminal ne kak ne vozmozna??
[15:00] <skwishy> I just can't get the head tracker to work
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: 09 is less than 30
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the linux ones appear first as they are numbered 10
[15:00] <skwishy> also wonder if/how to make my desktop split in two seperate mirror images, left and right
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: so by changing it to 09 it appears above the linux ones
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: its a simple concept
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !away > Ilyes512|Away
[15:01] <cfhowlett> skwishy this is NOT an ubuntu issue.  no occulus support here.  look elsewhere.
[15:01] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: sounds simple.  Is it possible to have two or more entries with the same number?  Would that be ok?
[15:01] <skwishy> Is there a way to use something like xrandr to make a desktop mirror, on the same monitor?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> skwishy nevermind my last.  sorry.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> skwishy never seen what your suggesting done.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: i believe so and it will go to alphebetical order, best to just re-jig them to not have the same number
[15:02] <yz3pD> is there a difference between update-grub and update-grub2 ?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> yz3pD there is.  use the command matching your grub version
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: things in Linux are simple. Its the old Linux mantra "do one thing and do it well"
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: you can then string things together and magic starts to happen
[15:05] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I took note of this conversation because it was useful.  Also, is there a reason by at startup there are duplicated entries in GRUB - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/373
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: do you have a recovery partition on the drive?
[15:06] <skwishy> ActionParsnip: are you sure that mantra is a linux thing?  maybe unix, but hardly seems to in linux
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> skwishy: still applies ;)
[15:06] <yz3pD> cfhowlett: i have grub2 and always used update-grub and never had a problem, but it's better to use update-grub2 ?
[15:07] <skwishy> yeah, I like that quip, but linux is hardly a good example... haha, look at the sound system!
[15:07] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I suppose so.  I simply installed windows 7, then created extra partition space for ubuntu
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: yeah I always use update-grub. Is it a symlink?
[15:07] <jeffreylevesque> I didn't choose for a recovery environment
[15:07] <cfhowlett> yz3pD run a terminal: man update-grub2
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: I'd boot both Windows' see what happens. Not sure there as I dont dual boot. No need for Windows here
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: or in duckduckgo:  !man update-grub2
[15:08] <EleanorEllis> I need to get my scanner (Mustek 1200 UB Plus) working on Ubuntu 14.04. I followed the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154429. I downloaded the sbfw.usb backend driver into /usr/share/sane/gt68xx and I edited /etc/sane.d/gt68xx.conf, removing the # from #override "mustek-scanexpress-1200-ub-plus". However, when I start xsane I still get "No devices available". Trouble is I only do this every four years when I go from
[15:08] <yz3pD> cfhowlett: ok so i will use update-grub in future
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: update-grub2 is a stub for running update-grub which itself is a stub for running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to generate a grub2 config file
[15:09] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I saved a file onto the desktop in the first Windows 7 selection, then restarted the machine, and booted into the second.  The file I saved on the first, exists on the desktop of the second windows machine
[15:10] <basketmaker> yo
[15:11] <yz3pD> ActionParsnip: lol 3 cmds for 1 thing
[15:14] <indn1234> hey all
[15:15] <f0x> Hi.
[15:15] <indn1234> do the system requirements differ between 12.04 LTS and 14.04 LTS?
[15:15] <cfhowlett> indn1234 not significantly
[15:17] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I couldn't find detailed min spec requirement differences anywhere on the net. Please tell me which one is more demanding and by how much?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> indn1234 I'm unaware of any difference between them
[15:18] <k1l> !requirements
[15:18] <kubblai> !flavor
[15:19] <cfhowlett> k1l and that wiki needs an update ... ubuntu netbook edition?
[15:19] <indn1234> k1l: that's nice but I want the requirements for 12.04 LTS.
[15:21] <k1l> indn1234: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#System_Requirements
[15:21] <indn1234> I am running on a 1.2 core2duo PC with 1GB RAM and only a little HDD to spare.
[15:21] <indn1234> 1.2GHz
[15:21] <TJ-> GTFr0: Are you still about - I've solved it :)
[15:22] <cfhowlett> indn1234 lubuntu or xubuntu.  note: lubuntu is optimized for lower specification hardware
[15:22] <k1l> indn1234: that is not a rocket. i would suggest to try Lubuntu since that is more lightweight
[15:22] <GTFr0> TJ-: I'm still here
[15:22] <TJ-> GTFr0: "echo -e "port TCP\ntype tcp\n" | sudo tee -a /etc/uucp/port"
[15:23] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I've seen that I get an acceptable performance if I just use the LXDE environment over an Ubuntu.
[15:23] <indn1234> So now I'm just fretting over the version of LTS ubuntu to install.
[15:23] <indn1234> k1l: ^
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: 3 commands for what?
[15:24] <k1l> indn1234: lubuntu 14.04 is fine
[15:24] <wheezy123> hello, anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[15:24] <yz3pD> ActionParsnip:3 commands to update the grub file
[15:24] <GTFr0> TJ-: what exactly does that do?
[15:25] <indn1234> k1l: thanks for the link. It seems the new LTS uses 128MB more RAM.
[15:25] <indn1234> Also, can I downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04 LTS without reinstalling the system afresh?
[15:25] <TJ-> GTFr0: adds in a missing configuration file that the uucp binary package installs, which controls how the shared internals configure themselves
[15:25] <k1l> indn1234: no downgrade
[15:25] <cfhowlett> indn1234 nope.  you'd have to install 12.04
[15:26] <k1l> indn1234: just give 14.04 Lubuntu a try
[15:26] <hesco> Thanks Pici: I am using lsb_release -c in my script now.  Still debugging, but that piece is fixed.  Still need to sort out how to do this on a centos box so I don't have to maintain two versions of my script.
[15:26] <indn1234> aah dang. Seems like I'll just upgrade to the new LTS.
[15:26] <GTFr0> TJ-: should that be reported anywhere so that it gets fixed in a future version of 14.04?
[15:26] <k1l> you can still stop/rmeove services that use to much memory if you dont need them
[15:26] <Pici> hesco: lsb_release -c provides proper output here on rhel, so you may be in luck.
[15:27] <wheezy123> hello?
[15:27] <indn1234> k1l: I read somewhere that there isn't much difference between performance of a(ubuntu with LXDE desktop) and b(complete Lubuntu). Is this correct?
[15:28] <indn1234> I'm currently running LXDE on a ubuntu 12.10 and it's doing fine, more or less.
[15:28] <k1l> indn1234: an ubuntu uses the gnome/nautilus base in background. a lxde will still use that. a lubuntu-desktop will bring the whole lubuntu package
[15:28] <indn1234> k1l: aah I see, I should read more about it now. Thanks for all the help.
[15:28] <TJ-> GTFr0: It's an old bug, originating in Debian, from at least 2005... it is tracked in Ubuntu too, I'm investigating
[15:29] <Beldar> indn1234, Except that 12.10 is end of life and has no support here.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> indn1234 from 12.04: sudo apt do-release-upgrade will get 14.04.1, the sudo apt-get install lxde  (desktop environment only) or lubuntu-desktop (full meal deal)
[15:30] <Beldar> indn1234, I missed that you were informed in this my mistake.
[15:32] <indn1234> cfhowlett: thanks, gotta go. Will probe you later :p
[15:38] <Kaco>  Afternoon
[15:38] <compdoc> morning
[15:38] <poobutt> evening
[15:38] <Guest49410> Hi, everyone.
[15:40] <Guest49410> anyone wanna help me recover a partition?
[15:41] <Guest49410> voidfire: Can we pm?
[15:42] <EleanorEllis> I found the solution to my earlier problem getting my scanner to work. I needed to add myself to the "scanner" group. Here is my original question for your information in case anyone else is struggling. I need to get my scanner (Mustek 1200 UB Plus) working on Ubuntu 14.04. I followed the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154429. I downloaded the sbfw.usb backend driver into /usr/share/sane/gt68xx and I edited /etc/san
[15:42] <EleanorEllis> Is there anywhere sensible I could post this information to help others with the same problem?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> EleanorEllis ubuntu forums
[15:43] <Pici> EleanorEllis: You could create a page on the Ubuntu wiki.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> nice ^^^
[15:43] <Guest49410> cfhowlett: Are you good at recovering partitions?
[15:44] <EleanorEllis> Pici: Thanks. Where would be a sensible place to add it on the wiki
[15:45] <cancer> hi, is there any linux distro i can install small in size like 'slitaz/puppy' etc.... i want usb supported....
[15:45] <cancer> and installation with wubi...
[15:46] <Pici> EleanorEllis: I'm not sure...
[15:46] <ysh> cancer: ask in #linux
[15:46] <cancer> ysh | tnx.
[15:47] <EleanorEllis> Pici: Is this a sensible place? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek1200UB
[15:47] <Pici> EleanorEllis: sure
[15:48] <EleanorEllis> Pici: Although that page makes it much harder than what I needed to do
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: they are the same difference, but very weird I'll agree
[15:48] <Guest49410> Anyone wanna tackle my partition ?  The partition that I can no longer access ...
[15:48] <Pici> EleanorEllis: Its a wiki, so if you have a better way, there is nothing wrong with updating it to more sensible information.
[15:49] <askhader> sudo modprobe aes gives me "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'aesni_intel': No such device"
[15:49] <askhader> How can I correct this?
[15:49] <EleanorEllis> Pici: There is also a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154429 which doesn't include adding the user to the group but unfortunately that thread is closed so I can't comment on it.
[15:49] <askhader> running ubuntu server on VirtualBox
[15:50] <EleanorEllis> Can I add a new answer to ubuntu forums?
[15:50] <bekks> askhader: you cant use those AES hardware devices in a VM.
[15:50] <askhader> bekks: Is there any workaround if Iwant to encrypt a USB thumb drive via dm-crypt with AES?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: log in and make a new post
[15:51] <bekks> askhader: dont use AES HW devices. :)
[15:51] <askhader> bekks: A guide I'm following says to configure /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to contain the line 'alias aes aes_generic' but this appears to have no effect.
[15:52] <bekks> askhader: So modprobe aes afterwards.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> askhader: the files in modprobe.d need to have a '.conf' extension
[15:56] <talin> hello. i just changed the netmask on my secondary network card. can i make that change take effect without losing connectivity somehow?
[15:57] <talin>  it is not the network card i rely on... its just a secondary one, and my ssh connection is on the primary.
[15:57] <talin> can i perhaps reload that secondary card?
[15:57] <talin> by changed, imean in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:59] <poobutt> talin: can you not just bring that interface down and back up with ifconfig
[16:00] <dadio> talin: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:00] <talin> dadio: will i get disconnected then?
[16:00] <talin> ifdown/ifup did not make changes take effect :/
[16:01] <dadio> Yes, but is it a problem to just reconnect your ssh on the primary?
[16:01] <talin> dadio: ah, okay. as long as i acn reconnect no problem
[16:01] <TJ-> talin: if ifdown/ifup didn't take affect then there may be something wrong with the syntax
[16:02] <talin> TJ-: i just changed netmask from .248 to .240
[16:02] <talin> hmm, says i cant init.d/networking restart on a mchine using upstart
[16:03] <talin> please use service command instead
[16:03] <askhader> Is there an aes_generic kernel module?
[16:03] <Guest45617> hi
[16:03] <Guest45617> how are you all
[16:04] <dadio> talin: yes, sorry, networking is changed to an upstart service. do sudo service networking restart instaed
[16:04] <TJ-> talin: ifdown  should bring down the interface so there is no address/netmask assigned, so ifup should bring it back up with the mask specified in 'interfaces'. If not, there's some other issue there.
[16:04] <talin> weird... service newtorking restart
[16:04] <talin> still same netmask
[16:04] <talin> no error message
[16:05] <TJ-> talin: do "ifdown ethX" manually... check with "ifconfig ethX" then "ifup ethx" and again check... if no change, show us the 'interfaces' file
[16:05] <poobutt> talin: try remove the spaces before address and other entries in interfaces in case there are any
[16:05] <dadio> talin: what says: sudo service network-manager status
[16:06] <talin> unknown service
[16:06] <dadio> talin: ok, thats good... just checking... otherwise, network-manager has controle
[16:08] <talin> TJ-: https://dpaste.de/kQAN
[16:08] <askhader> I am following the Ubuntu "Encrypted FIlesystem On Removable Storage:" guide. When it comes time to load the aes kernel module, I receive a "No such device error" - The documentation states that the aes module should be aliases to aes_generic in this case. But after doing this, modprobe presents the error "could not insert 'aes_generic': Function not implemented"
[16:08] <askhader> Docs here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[16:08] <talin> TJ-: that eth1:1 is where the problem is. it now says 240 but used to say 248
[16:10] <john_doe_jr> how do I remove a phar archive file?
[16:10] <talin> TJ-: ifconfig still says 248 though
[16:10] <TJ-> talin: I see one syntax error already: "dns-nameserver" should be "dns-nameservers"
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: its a file, delete it...
[16:12] <talin> TJ-: ah, okay. i fixed that
[16:12] <TJ-> talin: 2nd syntax error: "gateway 74.16.221.49 dev eth1" is illegal, therefore the whole stanza will be ignored
[16:13] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: I was trying sudo apt-get remove [ phar archive ] but couldn't find it
[16:13] <talin> TJ-: hmm. the dev part is illegal?
[16:13] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: if I remove the file will that completely uninstall it?
[16:13] <TJ-> talin: "man interfaces" "/The static method" shows "gateway address" ... yes
[16:14] <TJ-> talin: and because that GW is outside the sub-nets of eth1 and eth1:1, unless it is part of the eth0 sub-net, you'll need a specific route for it
[16:15] <askhader> I am following the Ubuntu "Encrypted FIlesystem On Removable Storage:" guide. When it comes time to load the aes kernel module, I receive a "No such device error" - The documentation states that the aes module should be aliases to aes_generic in this case. But after doing this, modprobe presents the error "could not insert 'aes_generic': Function not implemented"
[16:16] <talin> TJ-: hmm, i uncommented those lines. i still get the same netmask. does this file report errors somewhere?
[16:17] <askhader> Would that error indicate that I need to rebuild my kernel?
[16:18] <TJ-> talin: The only place errors would go is /var/log/syslog, but I don't recall ifupdown writing errors by default
[16:19] <TJ-> askhader: CRYPTO_AES is built-in, not a module. See "grep CRYPTO_AES /boot/config-`uname -r`"
[16:19] <talin> TJ-: perhaps its wrong that eth1:1 comes before eth1 definition?
[16:20] <askhader> TJ-: What about aes_generic?
[16:21] <TJ-> talin: order doesn't matter
[16:21] <askhader> How can I debug the following error "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert `aes_generic`': Function not implemented" when running "sudo modprobe aes"
[16:22] <TJ-> talin: try using "ifquery" ("man ifquery" or "ifquery --help") to check things out
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: what is the file?
[16:22] <FapFlop|Work> mfw when my director asks how to orient a document in the fax machine..
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: if its jus a file, like an MP3, then just delete it
[16:22] <compdoc> askhader, your cpu supprt aes? which cpu is it?
[16:22] <TJ-> askhader: CRYPTO_AES is the kernel configuration option for aes_generic, and as it is set to Y the module is built-in
[16:23] <talin> TJ-: that one gives me correct netmask
[16:23] <askhader> compdoc: I'm running virtualbox
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_instruction_set
[16:24] <compdoc> askhader, the host should still have aes, and the guest cpu should be set to a virtual cpu that supports it
[16:24] <talin> TJ-: maybe it's just a bug in ifconfig output then
[16:24] <askhader> compdoc: Does this require VirtualBox configuration?
[16:24] <askhader> Do I need to re-install the virtual machine?
[16:24] <TJ-> askhader: "CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES=y" combines with the ./crypto/Makefile's "obj-$(CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES) += aes_generic.o" the result being the *MODULE IS BUILT IN*
[16:24] <compdoc> I use KVM, and you can set AES manually or by choosing a cpu that has it
[16:25] <askhader> TJ-: Yes, you've said that already. Yet somehow the aes module fails to load.
[16:25] <compdoc> askhader, what cpu is the host?
[16:25] <TJ-> askhader: *which* module? "aes_generic" is *built-in* it *is not* a dynamically loadable module
[16:26] <askhader> TJ-: aes
[16:26] <askhader> compdoc: It's an i5
[16:27] <compdoc> ok, it has aes then
[16:27] <TJ-> askhader: The dynamically loadable crypto modules can be seen with "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/crypto/"
[16:27] <compdoc> or should
[16:28] <berzerka> hi. on 12.04LTS onward, does the python2 binary exist if python2.x is installed?
[16:28] <askhader> yet when I run modprobe aes I get: Error: Could not insert 'aesni_inte'
[16:28] <askhader> and the same for 'padlock_aes'
[16:28] <askhader> 'aesni_intel' rather
[16:28] <talin> TJ-: i did hexdump -c /etc/network/interfaces and i find a few instances of \t in there. that doesnt sound great
[16:28] <compdoc> askhader, then I would guess the virtual cpu doesnt support aes
[16:29] <askhader> compdoc: Hence I want to alias aes to aes_generic
[16:29] <askhader> But then I get the 'Function not implemented' error from modprobe after aliasing
[16:30] <EleanorEllis> Pici: ActionParsnip: I submitted my scanner how to here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2236880&p=13085951#post13085951 but I am not sure how I should edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek1200UB to include this information or even if this is the right place to do it.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: if you contact markhobley on Launchpad he may change it
[16:32] <TJ-> askhader: check the architecture-specific crypto extension modules with "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/arch/x86/crypto"
[16:32] <talin> maybe i should restart the server...
[16:32] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> EleanorEllis: https://launchpad.net/~markhobley/+contactuser
[16:33] <askhader> TJ-: So modprobe aes-x86_64
[16:34] <askhader> Is this equivalent to modprobe aes on an x86 architecture machine?
[16:34] <TJ-> askhader: No, it's the 64-bit specific extensions to speed calculations by utilising 64-bit specific instructions and the wider registers
[16:35] <askhader> But otherwise it's functionally equivalent?
[16:36] <TJ-> askhader: Yes. The software-only AES implementation is in aes_generic (which has MODALIAS aes), and that is built-in to all Ubuntu kernels.
[16:37] <EleanorEllis> ActionParsnip: I have emailed him. Thanks for the suggestion
[16:44] <verhaag> Test!
[16:47] <talin> does ubuntu ever use network settings from some place other than /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> talin: DHCP is default
[16:47] <talin> i tried uncommenting to remove devices and making changes, and then running service networking restart, but none of the changes take effect
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> talin: you will also use settings from /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/* for DNS settings
[16:48] <ztane> trusty and ati mobility radeon X (dunno which)
[16:48] <ztane> after upgrade, I get only blank screen after grub
[16:48] <ztane> right after grub, pitch black, and nothing, nada, how do I even get to see the console?
[16:49] <verhaag> ?
[16:49] <talin> ActionParsnip: well, nothing i change in /etc/network/interfaces has any effect for some reason
[16:49] <tehcereal> hello is there any way to enable that when you click the search bar that it autoselects the whole text
[16:49] <tehcereal> i know the shortcut ctrl+k
[16:50] <tehcereal> but i would like when i click the bar for the first time that it selects the whole text
[16:50] <ztane> disabled loadvideo and set_gfx_mode in grub, now I see blinking cursor but thatsit
[16:50] <tehcereal> im talking about firefox
[16:50] <tehcereal> btw
[16:50] <tehcereal> :D
[16:51] <dadio> ztane: I had the same problem. Try a previous kernel...
[16:51] <ztane> ok, now I saw the login screen until X started, yay
[16:51] <ztane> dadio: there is no previous kernel to try
[16:51] <ztane> except the 12.04 one...
[16:52] <dadio> ztane: yes, kernels are never removed with upgrades.
[16:52] <ztane> but dunno how well it works when the userland is 1404 here
[16:52] <ztane> lets see
[16:52] <sydney> I want to help speed up my computer by putting a swap space on an external hd. how do i do that?
[16:53] <ztane> ok, now I saw the splash screen, and black screen only when X started, now I cant do anything anymore
[16:53] <dadio> ztane: I don't how it's called in the grub menu, but I think it's the second option...
[16:53] <sydney> because the swap being on my main hd really bogs it down :(
[16:54] <ztane> dadio: recovery yes, but what then, remove fglxr or whatever it was?
[16:54] <ztane> i mean i booted with prev kernel, but black screen
[16:55] <dadio> ztane: which kernel did you choose?
[16:55] <ztane> my prev
[16:55] <ztane> which is from 1204
[16:55] <ztane> now started recovery mode, and failsafe x, blank screen :D
[16:55] <ztane> and nothing works
[16:55] <ztane> fffff
[16:57] <dadio> ztane: can you get into the console?
[16:57] <Guest15856> so i ssh into my host, and it's hanging or something. with ssh -v I can see that it does get into the session, and authenticates properly, but then what happens is that ssh says it is sending command: /bin/bash and it just hangs there. is there a way to ssh into some sort of fallback without anything hanging?
[16:57] <Guest15856> it might be NFS hanging and causing reads to be delayed
[16:58] <nith1210> Guest15856: try CTRL+C while it's hanging, I've seen that skip whatever it's waiting for.
[16:58] <Guest15856> i get
[16:58] <Guest15856> debug1: Killed by signal 2.
[16:58] <Guest15856> if i do that
[16:58] <ztane> dadio: did, now removed fglrx, hope that "failsafe" x now would be more failsafe...
[17:00] <dadio> ztane: now it's a good idea to do something like this: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:00] <dadio> to make shure the upgrade finished completely
[17:01] <verhaag>  
[17:01] <ztane> ofc I cannot get to net anymore
[17:02] <ztane> whoaa and x started
[17:06] <sydney> Does anyone know how i can move my swap space to an external hd?
[17:06] <indn1234> is there a way to directly upgrade to the latest 14.04 LTS from 12.10, skipping all the releases in between, WITHOUT a fresh install?
[17:06] <bekks> indn1234: there is no such way.
[17:07] <dadio> sydney: format a partition on the external hd as a swap. Then add the hd in /etc/fstab, then do 'sudo swapon -a'
[17:07] <sine0> i have a fresh install of ubuntu desktop just now. can i use apt-get in the terminal
[17:07] <bekks> indn1234: from 12.10, you have to upgrade every single release in between.
[17:07] <indn1234> bekks: hmm. Sucks for me. Guess I'll just fresh install again. Will I lose all my installed applications?
[17:08] <bekks> indn1234: Withe new install, of course. Just backup everything in your /home and backup the list of installed applications.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> sine0: yes absolutely
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> sine0: you can press CTRL + ALT + T and launch a terminal
[17:11] <sine0> wow thanks took me ages to find it via gui :D
[17:11] <sine0> is the software center a front end gui for apt-get ?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> sine0: press Windows key and search Dash for: terminal
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> sine0: the shortcut makes more sense imho
[17:11] <sine0> yea found it now thanks
[17:12] <indn1234> is there a difference in the system requirements/performance in A (ubuntu 14.04 LTS with LXDE desktop on top) and B (complete Lubuntu) ?
[17:13] <indn1234> bekks: yeah thanks :)
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> indn1234: should be very similar
[17:15] <indn1234> ActionParsnip: so much similar as to be indistinguishable on a 1.2GHz core2Duo with 1GB RAM?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> indn1234: should be fine. a little extra RAM wouldnt hurt and its super cheap now
[17:16] <sine0> ActionParsnip: ok first thing, how do i install the latest version of a software? for instance the 3d tool "blender" is .69 and the latest is past that
[17:16] <sine0> i did apt-get install for this
[17:17] <sine0> is this too do with the apt-get source list
[17:17] <indn1234> ActionParsnip: I'm the cheapest motherfucker you'll ever meet :p
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> sine0: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install blender
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> indn1234: 1Gb extra is the price of a pack of smokes.....
[17:18] <dadio> sine0: the version is set by the source list...
[17:18] <sine0> dadio: so i have to update the source list to "untested"
[17:18] <sine0> or soemthing like that
[17:18] <indn1234> ActionParsnip: I never smoked in my life. Cigs are expensive brah. But seriously, I am running a 7 year old laptop and I havent yet done any upgrades to it, I just want to keep it running for as long as I can.
[17:21] <dadio> sine0: you can upgrade your hole ubuntu to 14.10 (like I did) then you can install blender 2.69
[17:23] <dadio> sine0: or download the tarball from the blender-website but that's against the repository philosofy
[17:23] <patarr> does scp ignore dot files by default?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> patarr  scp copies what you want it to copy
[17:24] <sine0> dadio: how do i install it to the latest greatest
[17:24] <LiENUS> does ubuntu 14.04 include anything more than just pptp vpn support?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> patarr  more precise: scp copies what you *tell* it to copy
[17:25] <dadio> sine0: sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[17:25] <sine0> thanks pal
[17:25] <lucas21> Hello from Spain. I'm studying LPCI and I've stumbled on a problem: fdisk doesn't recognize the xfs partitions after installing xfsprog
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  any review tells you "what's new"
[17:26] <dadio> sine0: if something gos wrong with the upgrade, do sudo apt-get install -f or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:26] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, ? with what?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  what do you mean, with what?
[17:26] <LiENUS> what do you mean by review telling "what's new"?
[17:26] <LiENUS> new with what?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  what's new in 14.04 ... or did I misundertand your question?
[17:27] <LiENUS> does ubuntu 14.04 include anything more than just pptp vpn support?
[17:27] <LiENUS> i dont even see the word new in there
[17:28] <LiENUS> i think you have me mistaken for someone else
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  ok, then what do you mean btty "anything more"?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> by*
[17:28] <LiENUS> i mean i just see pptp vpn support in network manager
[17:29] <LiENUS> i'm trying to figure out if theres some way to get l2tp support
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  i missed that ptatrt in your initial question
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> part*
[17:30] <LiENUS> my initial question was essentially what vpns are supported
[17:30] <LiENUS> not sure how to miss that
[17:34] <lucas21> Is blkid the only way to know if a xfs partition exists?
[17:35] <cemotyz09> LiENUS I know if you install strongswan it adds support for Ipsec and installs a network manager plugin to edit it through that
[17:36] <sine0> what is this repository philosophy then
[17:37] <LiENUS> cemotyz09, but does it include l2tp support?
[17:37] <ardan_> sine1
[17:37] <LiENUS> i suppose i could just deal with straight ipsec, but l2tp makes it much easier to manage
[17:39] <cemotyz09> found this https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/IPSEC_L2TP_vpn_with_Ubuntu_12.10.html i would think still applicable
[17:40] <LiENUS> cemotyz09, doesnt look very workable for a laptop though
[17:42] <toyotapie> Here is my interfaces file for my kvm server : http://pastebin.com/bDtW415Y
[17:42] <toyotapie> br0 is used by kvm to link vms to the network card
[17:42] <toyotapie> eth0 is my primary link, eth1 is my backup link.
[17:43] <toyotapie> Will this configuration allow traffic to pass between eth0 and eth1? I think it shouldn't allow this, but I am not sure.
[17:47] <toyotapie> oops, wrong chat ;)
[17:50] <will> im new
[17:51] <mjuszcza1> How can I increase the debian version number of a package i'm making with debuild?  It starts at -1
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> !away > cdmsn|awy
[17:56] <baegle> OK, I'm getting insanely tired of this and need help. I'm sitting right next to an AP but NetworkManager is connected to the one across the office
[17:57] <baegle> disconnecting and reconnecting doesn't fix it
[17:57] <baegle> I've also setup 2 wireless profiles to try to specific AP1 versus AP2 but NetworkManager doesn't let me select one or the other
[17:57] <baegle> How do I fix this?
[17:58] <dadio> baegle: you can't realy...
[17:58] <samurai-it> escuseme help me whit kubuntu desktop on xubuntu
[17:58] <LiENUS> baegle, your wireless system doesnt include the ability to force associations?
[17:59] <baegle> LiENUS: As far as I can tell, using iwconfig to change the AP doesn't work because NetworkManager overwrites manual changes
[17:59] <tdannecy___> samurai-it: What's your issue?
[17:59] <sine0> can i get a 14.10 install disk ? i just tried to upgrade and it fubar my installation. luckily its fresh and i have not lost anything
[17:59] <LiENUS> baegle, i mean at work
[18:00] <samurai-it> my problem is the graphical interface
[18:00] <daftykins> sine0: 14.10 is alpha, talk in #ubuntu+1
[18:00] <LiENUS> i dunno my laptop doesnt have trouble roaming at home or work
[18:00] <LiENUS> home is a bit better but i overbuilt my home wifi more than my work wifi
[18:00] <LiENUS> home wifi is a testbed so it has tons of bits that work doesnt need, whereas work has just what i know i need
[18:01] <baegle> LiENUS: why is this an issue with the office and not an issue with NetworkManager?
[18:01] <LiENUS> baegle, technically it is an association with the station and not the access point, its just many wifi systems include the ability to push clients around
[18:01] <baegle> LiENUS: The signal's in the air. The radio is right there. I know the MAC addresses of the APs and I am completely hamstrung by my software.
[18:02] <LiENUS> network manager is likely trying to connect to whichever is strongest
[18:02] <LiENUS> perhaps the one further away has better antennas
[18:02] <baegle> LiENUS: it's wrong. iwlist shows signal strength
[18:02] <baegle> the one further away is the same model
[18:02] <LiENUS> a properly configured managed network though has provisions to push clients off when it knows they're better served by a different pa
[18:03] <LiENUS> ap*
[18:03] <baegle> LiENUS: that's abdication of client responsibility though. I have all the information I need to serve myself
[18:03] <baegle> and I can't use it because the software on my machine is preventing me
[18:04] <baegle> I feel like I might as well go back to ifup/down and wpasupplicant
[18:04] <dadio> baegle: if you give the two ap's different issid's? can't you just choose the right ap?
[18:04] <baegle> and do everything by hand. NetworkManager has been such a disappointment
[18:04] <baegle> dadio: they have the same SSID
[18:05] <samurai-it> i have a system whi  t only 1 gb ram and i install xubuntu  but kubuntu-desktop?
[18:06] <dadio> beagle: give them different ones
[18:06] <samurai-it> fuck you
[18:07] <baegle> dadio: I can't, they're not mine
[18:09] <dadio> baegle: sorry like i saed, you can't fix this.
[18:09] <thecoolguy> Hello
[18:09] <dadio> you need ap's with roaming...
[18:09] <thecoolguy> I recently started getting this error. Even after resintalling ruby what does it mean ?
[18:10] <thecoolguy> http://i.imgur.com/9ZjFzce.png
[18:10] <baegle> dadio: it's pretty absurd. I can actually specific in NetworkManager what mac address to connect to. So I can create multiple profiles and bind them to individual mac addresses. But NetworkManager doesn't allow me to chose the different profiles
[18:11] <baegle> dadio: And I can do it manually if I have control of my NICs, but NetworkManager polls my NIC state and overwrites any configs I manually set on it
[18:11] <basketballl> does anyone here use gimp
[18:12] <sine0> fresh install, need to burn an iso, what software shall i use
[18:12] <dadio> baegle: networkmanager is made for people that don't know anything of wifi
[18:13] <dadio> baegle: networkmanager is made for people that don't know anything of wifii gess
[18:14] <bprompt> basketballl:    ahemm... what's the question?   maybe someone knows, keep in mind it may be offtopic :)
[18:14] <dadio> baegle: networkmanager is made for people that don't know anything of wifii gessi gess???
[18:14] <awesomess3> basketballl, are you trying to do something special with gimp? I used to use it a long time ago when I worked with images :/
[18:14] <basketballl> how do i merge layers but keep the multiply blend
[18:14] <baegle> basketballl: #gimp ?
[18:14] <basketballl> no one is there
[18:15] <basketballl> my bad that is off topic
[18:15] <awesomess3> basketballl, right-click the top layer and select merge down...?
[18:15] <basketballl> sorry
[18:15] <dadio> baegle: sorry, a bit of trobble with my hardware... last time: disable networkmanager and config wifi manually i gess???
[18:15] <baegle> dadio: Yeah, I'm looking into WICD now
[18:16] <baegle> dadio: It's just a PITA that the stock NetworkManager that has been in the hands of millions of users for so many years is still such a piece of garbage
[18:16] <gazzerh> sine0: brasero
[18:20] <acqant> can anyone point me to some help re: macbook pro 10,1 and ubuntu 14.04 Broadcom wifi.  It works but drops packets too much.
[18:20] <acqant> I'm all patched up too.
[18:22] <lucas21> Sorry, but I asked a question but nobody answer me. Is anybody here who knows de answer?
[18:23] <bekks> lucas21: can you repeat your question please?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> lucas21  keep your quesion in one line and hit the the up arrow every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[18:25] <niranjan> Hi there, looking for help using find command - find /userData -name "profile" where profile has two or more directories under it. If it has zero or one, I don't want to get that list. Don't know the directory names under profile
[18:25] <lucas21> Yes, of course. I installed a xfs partition, and I installed xfsprog but fdisk not recognize the xfs partition (others tools do)
[18:25] <bekks> lucas21: What do you expect from fdisk? fdisk does not recognize the filesystem, but the partition only.
[18:26] <lucas21> The filesystem.
[18:26] <bekks> lucas21: fdisk doesnt care about the filesystem on a partition.
[18:26] <blocky> how can I launch the settings app to change my default browser from the command line? I'm not running gnome
[18:26] <lucas21> with blkid I can see the filesystem but with  fdisk don't
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> blocky  what are you running then?
[18:27] <bekks> lucas21: fdisk doesnt care about filesystems. It handles partition labels only.
[18:27] <blocky> i3wm
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> blocky  is this useful http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html
[18:28] <gazzerh> blocky: you using i3menu?
[18:28] <blocky> gazzerh: yeah
[18:28] <gazzerh> it's not there?
[18:28] <lucas21> bekks, Ah thanks, you've been very kind. I'm studying LPCI and I'm sure that it will be an exam question
[18:29] <blocky> MonkeyDust: thanks, but I need to know the name of the ubuntu system settings
[18:29] <blocky> gazzerh: what am I looking for?
[18:30] <phanimahesh> Any idea why http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts hasn't been updated with 14.04.1?
[18:30] <blocky> ah found it, gnome-control-center
[18:31] <blocky> MonkeyDust and gazzerh: thanks
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> blocky  so that's gnome
[18:32] <BhAwN> anyone know how to setup a wifi hotspot on ubuntu 14.04 so that it can be used by an android phone
[18:32] <BhAwN> tried ap-hotspot
[18:32] <BhAwN> not working
[18:35] <rb07> I'm trying to set up my laptop to allow me to switch workspaces with a 3-finger swipe. In a previous ubuntu installation, I had found a python script that did this perfectly. Would anyone happen to know of the script I'm talking about and how to find it? My google searches have yielded no fruit.
[18:37] <awesomess3> rb07, whoa that is so weird. 3 fingers on a touchpad. that is so weird.
[18:37] <rb07> awesomess3, ?
[18:38] <awesomess3> nevermind it's just my reaction
[18:39] <rb07> I think I might have found it.
[18:39] <sine0> i want to reinstall ubuntu after a failed attempt at upgrading
[18:39] <sine0> its borked me a bit
[18:39] <sine0> but the disk wont boot when i reboot it just asks for my harddrive password to decrypt the drive. i was under the impression that i could overwrite all this stuff with a fresh install, is that correct ?
[18:40] <hyde> sine0: sounds like you're booting from the HD
[18:40] <sine0> hyde right, buut in the bios i specifically chose the dvddrive
[18:40] <sine0> ill try again
[18:41] <sine0> brb
[18:49] <tehcereal2> is there another way of creating a launcher
[18:49] <tehcereal2> or do i really create a .desktop file manually
[18:49] <tehcereal2> really have to *
[18:52] <ansel> hi
[18:52] <ansel> hi
[18:55] <Scrivener> Heya guys. I accidentally removed root privileges from myself (I know, right?), and I was trying to boot into single user mode to fix it. I edit the relevant line in grub to include 'single', and it appears to properly boot, but I'm left with only a blank screen at the end and no tty. Ctrl-alt-F2 gives me a cursor, but I cannot type and see nothing else.
[18:55] <Scrivener> This is Ubuntu 14.04. What can I do to get a shell?
[18:57] <daftykins> Scrivener: you shouldn't really try to do it that way, ubuntu's recovery mode exists for a reason :)
[18:57] <daftykins> !recovery | Scrivener
[18:57] <Scrivener> daftykins, how can I access it?
[18:57] <daftykins> take a look there
[18:58] <cmd3187> Has anyone ever run into a situation where apt-get appears to ignore the authentication details for a specified proxy? Running 12.04.4.
[19:00] <Scrivener> daftykins, thanks, this is what I was looking for. I was used to this on Debian, but haven't done it in a long time. I booted into recovery mode, and tty 1 has a log of output from boot up, and all the other ttys will not let me type (same unmoving cursor as before)
[19:01] <daftykins> Scrivener: does TTY1 accept input ok?
[19:01] <daftykins> it may go to a login if you hit enter
[19:01] <Scrivener> I can type and hit enter, but see no output.
[19:01] <Scrivener> Just adds whitespace
[19:02] <Scrivener> I have a fully encrypted disk, if that's causing the issue, but when I attempted single user login it asked me for the password to decrypt.
[19:03] <daftykins> Scrivener: mmm, you should certainly get it working - is this a laptop?
[19:03] <Scrivener> Yes, a Thinkpad T430 with all Intel internals (for compatibility)
[19:04] <daftykins> Scrivener: my other approach would be to boot a live session from USB / DVD and chroot your install to resolve. i'ma fraid i have no encryption experience to assist with mounting your user space for the fix though
[19:04] <Scrivener> Googling :)
[19:04] <Scrivener> Yeah, I was trying to avoid that. I've recovered it by dropping to a root prompt before, and the user on the system isn't unusable. In fact, I can continue working pretty well.
[19:05] <Scrivener> I just don't have sudo :P
[19:05] <daftykins> Scrivener: hehe, what on earth possessed you to remove yourself from the admin group? XD
[19:06] <Scrivener> I didn't mean to D: I'm not sure how I did. I didn't notice until today.
[19:06] <Scrivener> I suspect I did it last weekend though.
[19:06] <Scrivener> And just didn't need sudo for a while.
[19:07] <Scrivener> Oh, recovery mode should give me an option to drop to root shell prompt, right?
[19:09] <Scrivener> daftykins, huh, I rebooted and tried again and this time it prompted me for the decryption password
[19:09] <Scrivener> And I got to the recovery dialogue
[19:09] <daftykins> Scrivener: :D
[19:09] <Scrivener> I dunno what was up the first tine
[19:09] <Scrivener> Root prompt, yess :D
[19:09] <daftykins> \o/
[19:10] <Scrivener> Ohhhh ha I see what it is. Somehow... When I was adding another user to the group of my user's name, I removed my user from its own groups.
[19:15] <Beldar> Scrivener, So when did the stroke happen?
[19:15] <geirha> what command(s) did you use to change group membership?
[19:16] <Scrivener> Beldar, last week -- and I know what it was, I wasn't adding another user to my user's group, I was trying to add my user to a supplemental group
[19:16] <Beldar> ;)
[19:16] <eucalyptus> can we discuss upstart here, or is there another preferred place?
[19:16] <Scrivener> But I used the wrong options x)
[19:17] <Scrivener> Classic mistake
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> eucalyptus  use #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[19:18] <eucalyptus> MonkeyDust: thanks
[19:28] <jim2> hello
[19:28] <jim2> which is the difference between ubuntu 14.04
[19:28] <jim2> and ubuntu 14.04.1?ty
[19:29] <Beldar> jim2, Not much
[19:29] <jim2> i have 14.04.1
[19:29] <Beldar> just a change to an official state
[19:29] <jim2> is it a stable version
[19:30] <jim2> or a beta?
[19:30] <Beldar> jim2, All are classified as stable upon release
[19:30] <bekks> It is a stable version.
[19:30] <msx> jim2: the .1 milestone is a release sporting the cummulative updates up-to-date for 14.04
[19:30] <jim2> uufff
[19:31] <jim2> i was scared to death
[19:31] <jim2> i thought it wasnt a stable one
[19:31] <bekks> jim2: because of what?
[19:31] <jim2> i am lucky...
[19:31] <tr3y> Hey guys this is probably a noob question but I'm a bit lost. I'm getting used to ubuntu 14.04 coming over from windows 8, and I just don't understand why I can't edit/delete/move files in nautilus without opening it as "sudo nautilus" in command prompt. I also have to open all my programs with that in order to save and open files. And it seems some programs (gimp) don't save my UI when I close it.
[19:32] <jim2> can anyone suggest a good theme?
[19:32] <daftykins> tr3y: when saving in your home folder?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> tr3y  all you files in /home can be deleted without sudo
[19:32] <jim2> i want to make my de good looking:)
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !themes | jim2 start here
[19:33] <jim2> i have unity
[19:33] <Beldar> jim2, All your questions are really broad, what "good looking" means to you is an opinion.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> jim2  we don't know what you like
[19:33] <jim2> ok
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> brb
[19:36] <raub> Have a nokia booklet 3g here. bios sees HD but lubuntu livecd doesn't
[19:36] <raub> Nor dmesg
[19:36] <jim2> also
[19:36] <jim2> can i run linux on a tv?
[19:37] <HiddenDjinn> jim2: define "tv"
[19:37] <jim2> a smart tv
[19:37] <etienne_oz> hi everyone, I got an issue with ubuntu 14.04 on a macbook pro 8.2 : when I try to put the computer on sleep  mode (closing the top or putting it manuelly) it become over hot and freezer with "CPU temperature above thresold" message. The only thing I can do there is to hard reboot my computer
[19:37] <jim2> samsung
[19:37] <etienne_oz> any idea ?
[19:37] <HiddenDjinn> jim2: more likely, you can run android on it
[19:37] <jim2> android is crap
[19:38] <HiddenDjinn> jim2: in what way?
[19:38] <Beldar> jim2, NO but you can use it as a hdmi device
[19:38] <jim2> it is vulnerable
[19:38] <jim2> to malware
[19:38] <jim2> i want all my devices to run ubuntu
[19:38] <HiddenDjinn> jim2: no more so than other operating systems...
[19:38] <jim2> i have ubuntu phone pc
[19:38] <Beldar> jim2, Please do not make broad statements.
[19:38] <jim2> and ubuntu tablet
[19:39] <Beldar> nor address anything but ubuntu here in a support capacity
[19:39] <HiddenDjinn> Beldar: aye-aye, sir
[19:40] <Beldar> raub, install here but issues. http://askubuntu.com/questions/222617/running-ubuntu-12-04-on-nokia-booklet-3g
[19:40] <Beldar> HiddenDjinn, When you are snarky you cut out your help and peer support.
[19:40] <arune> now that 14.04.1 is released, should it not be possible to do release-upgrade från 12.04 to 14.04?
[19:41] <HiddenDjinn> Beldar: i wasn't being snarky
[19:41] <Beldar> arune, Probably if you find a server not updatewd to 14.04
[19:41] <Beldar> HiddenDjinn, And I can fly like a bird, I had not addressed you, yet you answered. ;)
[19:42] <arune> Beldar: all my servers are still on 12.04
[19:42] <HiddenDjinn> Beldar: i thought the second statement was directed at both of us
[19:42] <jim2> dont argue
[19:42] <jim2> lol
[19:42] <jim2> you are being like kids
[19:42] <arune> do-release-upgrade still says "no new releases"
[19:42] <jim2> ...
[19:42]  * Beldar loves the ignore function
[19:43] <arune> http://askubuntu.com/questions/502886/ubuntu-12-04-4-lts-to-14-04-1-lts-upgrade-no-new-release-found
[19:44] <JDAIII> two questions, 1. I'm accessing my server's gui over rdp froim a win machine with xrdp but it defaults to the resolution of the server's tiny monitor. How do I enlarge that on the client side
[19:45] <JDAIII> 2. I know how to mount cifs shares using fstab, but how do I mount an ext4 share on an ubuntu workstation using fstab. UUID?
[19:47] <compdoc> JDAIII, Ive seen some xrpd setups that let you adjust the screen area using the monitors app/control panel. otherwise, you can do it from the startup script. it runs on vncserver
[19:47] <Beldar> arune, Set software and updates 3rd tab bottom dropdown to for long term support versions and wait for the update gui to show the upgrade.
[19:48] <JDAIII> configiured in the xrdp.ini file?
[19:48] <arune> Beldar: no gui, I'm waiting for the official release
[19:48] <arune> Beldar: but though that was with 14.04.1 :/
[19:49] <JDAIII> compdoc: which startup script?
[19:49] <Beldar> arune, No X no desktop?
[19:49] <compdoc> JDAIII, depends on the ubuntu version. These days its in /etc/init
[19:50] <compdoc> usually
[19:50] <ballsinsalsa> Hey can someone help me with JavaScript?
[19:51] <JDAIII> compdoc, don't see a vnc, vino, or xrdp conf file in /etc/init
[19:51] <ballsinsalsa> trying to run something with node bot.js but it's not doing anything.
[19:52] <compdoc> JDAIII:  sudo updatedb      then: locate vncserver
[19:52] <JDAIII> kk
[19:53] <JDAIII> compdoc, I do see a file in etc/alternatives/vncserver or /usr/bin
[19:53] <compdoc> JDAIII, any condfig files would be in /etc
[19:53] <compdoc> *config
[19:55] <JDAIII> ah, had to run vncserver in /etc/alternatives/ in order to create the xstartup config file in my home dir
[19:57] <compdoc> the default xstartup file might not work well without tweaking
[20:01] <pa> hi
[20:01] <pa> did someone here have to face this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dahdi-linux/+bug/1312421
[20:06] <xubuntu> hi
[20:07] <blaaa> How does 'Ubuntu Archive Auto-Sync' work? How can one trigger a sync of a package? The drupal7 package ad been synced for trusty at version 7.26, now drupal is at 7.30 with a few security updates in it
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> blaaa  the repos contain 7.26, i guess you need a ppa if you wan to go beyond that ... but ppa's tatre no supptored heret
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> are*
[20:10] <blaaa> MonkeyDust: I think universe packages might be updated? Otherwise that repo would not really make sense. As it appears to me that package is copied from debian sid automagically, I just wondered how it could be copied again
[20:12] <JDAIII> I have an ubuntu server with a samba share that I would like to mount persistently on my ubuntu workstation. I usually mount cifs shares through fstab, but I can't find info for an ext4 share using the fstab unless I use the UUID and if so, where do I designate the server's ip in fstab?
[20:12] <charlie_sanders> anyone know of a program that will prevent my computer from sleeping for a given number of hours, then go to sleep ?
[20:12] <charlie_sanders> ugh, theres something that really needs a decent interface upgrade ( fstab )
[20:13] <JDAIII> charlie_sanders, some good documentation would work for me
[20:14] <robairt> is there a reason you're not just setting your sleep timer for whatever length of time?
[20:14] <Guest48143> .join #ubuntu
[20:14] <Guest48143> .command
[20:15] <charlie_sanders> robairt, hah, yes - I dont want my computer to sleep during working hours, but I do it want it to sleep after that etc
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest48143  use the /
[20:15] <bugs_bugger> \join #random
[20:15] <robairt> charlie_sanders, ooooh now I get ya
[20:15] <bugs_bugger> whoops, sorry
[20:16] <Guest48143> a
[20:17] <sine0> how can i kill a process
[20:17] <charlie_sanders> ps aux | grep process , is usually what I use
[20:17] <sine0> if i know its pid. I have tried stopping it as a service with sudo service *name* stop
[20:18] <sine0> grep is search though isnt it ?
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> sine0  or killall [program name]
[20:18] <sine0> ok thanks is killall a system command or default installed app
[20:18] <charlie_sanders> sine0, yes I thought you were after the PID, kill PID will kill it, but if it's a service, it usually just restarts itself
[20:18] <usr13> sine0: pkill <process-name-here>  or kill <pid#####>
[20:19] <usr13> sine0: If it is a service, yes sudo service <name> stop should do it.  service --status-all  #To see if it is in the list.
[20:20] <usr13> JDAIII: What do you mean "an ext4 share"?  Is it local?  Or on another machine?
[20:21] <usr13> JDAIII: If it is a samba share on another machine, samba does not care what filesystem it is.
[20:22] <usr13> JDAIII: But, you can also use the same samba share for nfs if you prefer, (you can just do both).
[20:23] <happyfr0gg> I am back.  Any assistance needed, just ask.
[20:24] <happyfr0gg> Oh the irony. I need some help as well. Lol.
[20:25] <usr13> JDAIII: //192.168.2.xx/path/to/share  cifs guest,_netdev,uid=jdaii 0 0
[20:26] <usr13> JDAIII: Something like ^^^^^^^^^ will do
[20:26] <c|oneman> is there a paid version of freenode :P
[20:26] <usr13> c|oneman: What?
[20:26] <JDAIII> usr13: but the share I want to mount is ext4 not cifs
[20:26] <usr13> JDAIII: So it is local?
[20:26] <c|oneman> I kid of course, but I'd be nice if there was some sort of cheap paid linux support
[20:27] <usr13> JDAIII: If so, why is it not *already* mounted?
[20:27] <JDAIII> on the network. want to mount the share hosted on my ubuntu server on my ubuntu client VM
[20:27] <JDAIII> I've only mounted cifs shares with fstab before not ext4
[20:27] <tuxiano> Hi, I have an usb audio device. My problem is that the volume control of alsamixer and the ubuntu/unity volume control are "out of sync". So if the ubuntu/unity volume control is below 20% the alsamixer is at 0%. (I use ubunt 14.04)
[20:28] <usr13> JDAIII: You can use nfs if you want.
[20:28] <JDAIII> it will work with nfs settings?
[20:30] <usr13> JDAIII: Your /etc/fstab file would look something like this:
[20:31] <usr13> 192.168.x.xx:/path/on/other/pc /loca/mount/point nfs nolock,users,rw
[20:32] <usr13> JDAIII: And on the server's /etc/exports file, something like:
[20:32] <usr13> /path/to/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[20:33] <usr13> JDAIII: See that nfs-kernel-server us installed on server side.
[20:34] <JDAIII> not installed
[20:34] <usr13> JDAIII: but like I said, you can persistantly mount the samba share as well.  It's up to you.
[20:35] <mongo2_> is there any "non-compile your own" way to get a newer kernel on 14.04, the rbd driver does not work with erasure coding.
[20:35] <usr13> JDAIII: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15312/simple-way-to-consistently-access-a-smb-mount
[20:37] <usr13> JDAIII: In answer to your comment, "but the share I want to mount is ext4 not cifs"  A sama share is cifs, (no matter what filesystem it is on).
[20:39] <usr13> JDAIII: In answer to your question, "it will work with nfs settings?"  Not the samba share, but the new nfs share.  What I'm saying is that you can share the same files via nfs
[20:39] <JDAIII> I got it working with the samba share. thanks
[20:40] <usr13> JDAIII: NP
[20:48] <hlblyhipy> hi im a total newb here.I tried asking this ? at ubuntu studio,but they suggested i try her.The problem im having is that when i log into ubuntustudio within a few minutes either my screen freezes no mouse no keyboard or the display goes black.Tried Ctrl + Alt + F1 and nothing happens I have to shut the computer down and restart.The longest it seems to work is only a few min.I have been reading the documentation on the forums but noth
[20:48] <hlblyhipy> ing seems to work.My graphics card is a radeon 3200.If i look in additional drivers nothin is listed I tried reinstalling ubuntustudio to no avail.One piece of advice was doing something with xorg but when i type that into the terminal it say invalid command.On the forum it says that the driver is no longer supproted.Please help
[20:50] <louisdk> How to I compare a list of installed packages against a newly installed ubuntu 14.04?
[20:51] <libni> hola
[20:52] <Guido1> Hello, I would like to design covers for DVDs and CDs. Is there a small program which allows syncronisation with the DVD / CD content and writing own teksts? (i have XFburn)
[20:52] <libni> alguien habla español?
[20:52] <Pici> !es | libni
[20:53] <libni>  /join #ubuntu-es
[20:54] <maddawg2> when you edit your network settings with the nautilius network manager where the heck are those settings saved
[20:54] <maddawg2> my /etc/network/interfaces document is empty
[20:54] <maddawg2> i set the IP address using the network manager on ubuntu desktop but still not working and cant figure out why
[20:55] <msx> maddawg2: what's your issue?
[20:55] <happyfr0gg> Does anybody know when the Ubuntu 14.04 HWE stack be complete? I am trying to upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04.4 HWE (kernel and graphics stack).
[20:55] <happyfr0gg> * will be
[20:56] <maddawg2> msx well I got rid of my router and decided to connect ym ubuntu machine directly to my ISP's router and i have static IP
[20:56] <k1l> happyfr0gg: there should have been an update today
[20:57] <maddawg2> tried to set my eth1 address, subnet and gateway, but i still cant get online and my ISP of course wants to see my interfaces config but that's empty in ubuntu desktop
[20:58] <gamingrobot> uh I have a weird issue, on 14.04 I lock the computer they keyboard works fine, but when I re open the lid from suspend, they keyboard doesnt work
[20:58] <k1l> maddawg2: you can still set it in the network/interfaces. if you do so the Network-Manager will not touch the device.
[20:58] <k1l> maddawg2: but nevertheless, you should be able to use the NetworkManager to set it up properly
[20:59] <happyfr0gg> k1l - I ran Update Manager and it gave me the dialog box of unmet dependencies.
[20:59] <maddawg2> k11 well i'm not sure what's going on then
[20:59] <k1l> happyfr0gg: please pastebin so people in here can help
[20:59] <maddawg2> i dunno why it's not working
[20:59] <maddawg2> :-(
[21:00] <happyfr0gg> k1l - Okay, please give me a second.
[21:01] <maddawg2> k11 i agree it SHOULD work but i am not getting it working so I need to show my provider some type of config file that shows this
[21:01] <maddawg2> i need them to see i have it set correctly
[21:01] <maddawg2> cuz they keep telling me it must be something I am doing, but I have set EVERY setting the exact same
[21:02] <MoProductions> Hello.  Is there a reason why i would be unable to unmount a shared folder that’s on  a mac?
[21:02] <MoProductions> It gives me a timeout, but the computers are right next to each other it should be fine
[21:03] <k1l> maddawg2: its ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections
[21:03] <maddawg2> thanks k11
[21:05] <tony_> sudo reboot
[21:05] <maddawg2> k11, also do you know if there is a way to see the MAC address of a NIC during the ubuntu server install?
[21:06] <maddawg2> trying to set up a ubuntu server on a machine with two NICs but they are the exact same nic and model
[21:06] <maddawg2> so i cant tell which one is eht0 and eth1 during isntall, teherfore not sure which is my "default"
[21:06] <maddawg2> if i could see the MAC address i could tell
[21:06] <gamingrobot> fixed it I had to reinstall xinput-all
[21:08] <happyfr0gg> k1l - here is what I get via the terminal:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898382/
[21:08] <k1l> happyfr0gg: do you have 3rd party video drivers installed?
[21:09] <gamingrobot> or not, its being really itermittent
[21:09] <k1l> happyfr0gg: it looks to me like the video driver stuff does block xorg updates. but iirc the video drivers pull new xorg anyway. so just run the kernel upgrades
[21:10] <happyfr0gg> k1l - I don't think so. I would not know how to determine if I do.
[21:11] <k1l> happyfr0gg: try to install xserver-xorg-lts-trusty only and see what it says. then look which package it says it cannot install/upgrade and try to install that. then see where the line will end
[21:14] <gp5st> hello.  I'm having an issue where I can't seem to download large-ish files. For instance wget http://dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net/virtualbox/4.3.10/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.3.10.iso gets about 25% in and then just hangs.  I'm not entirely sure where to start looking for the issue. From ifconfig "RX packets:5241565 errors:0 dropped:77567 overruns:1 frame:0"
[21:15] <gp5st> The dropped number rises ifI wait and continue to have wget get that file
[21:18] <daftykins> gp5st: memtest your system
[21:18] <happyfr0gg> k1l - I tried to install the xserver-xorg-lts-trusty (as you said) and here is the result:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898471/
[21:20] <k1l> happyfr0gg: are you sure to have run a "sudo apt-get update" before?
[21:20] <k1l> happyfr0gg: got to leave for some time now. maybe others can help
[21:21] <happyfr0gg> k1l - okay. Thanks for your help. I just completed the update command. It completed reading package lists.
[21:22] <sine0> ok whats my best 14.04.64amd solution
[21:22] <sine0> for skype
[21:22] <k1l> happyfr0gg: now the package install command again. and see if it works now. / later
[21:22] <maddawg2> what?
[21:22] <maddawg2> lol what kind of question is that sine0
[21:22] <sine0> im saying im on 64bit 14.04
[21:23] <sine0> what my best solution to using skype
[21:23] <sine0> wine or
[21:23] <MrPigBearMan> hello there when I make a .desktop file how does it know where the icons full path is ?  and its type (jpg pin ect )
[21:23] <maddawg2> neither
[21:23] <maddawg2> it's not supported in linux
[21:23] <maddawg2> it wont work
[21:23] <happyfr0gg> It states that nothing is to be upgraded, installed or removed.
[21:23] <sine0> is there an alternative
[21:23] <maddawg2> oh wait..yes it is sine0
[21:24] <maddawg2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[21:24] <maddawg2> just do that
[21:24] <sine0> maddawg2: why u so mad
[21:24] <maddawg2> mad?
[21:24] <maddawg2> i'm not mad
[21:24] <sine0> why is your dog mad then
[21:24] <syntroPi> MrPigBearMan, maybe you can look at those .desktops in "ls /etc/xdg/autostart/" to get ideas
[21:24] <maddawg2> it's just a handle
[21:25] <MrPigBearMan> syntroPi,  I understand that but how does it know the path of ICON=  and also the type of icon that it is.
[21:26] <maddawg2> OK how do I install Ubuntu server without a darn internet connection
[21:26] <maddawg2> it keeps trying to set it up
[21:26] <maddawg2> I dont have one I just want it to set it up without configuring the interfaces
[21:27] <LapJup> in this 2013 the writer says the touch screen would not work with ubuntu. is that still true? http://liliputing.com/2013/10/booting-ubuntu-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
[21:28] <sine0> http://www.pasteall.org/53171
[21:28] <LapJup> s/2013/2013 article/
[21:29] <daftykins> sine0: we do not support debian and we do not support the raspberry pi in here, please find the #raspbmc channel
[21:29] <happyfr0gg> I continue to have unmet dependencies and held broken packages. How to fix???  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898471/
[21:29] <daftykins> sine0: in addition, we don't support third party software such as Skype
[21:29] <maddawg2> anyone know how i can skip the network configuration in ubuntu server
[21:29] <sine0> LOL
[21:29] <maddawg2> It's trying to autoconfigure my network cards and wont let me continue WITHOUT it
[21:29] <sine0> i tried to install it whilst on my shell!!!!
[21:29] <sine0> not my ubuntu box
[21:29] <sine0> doh
[21:29] <maddawg2> how the heck can I just install the system
[21:29] <daftykins> sine0: XD
[21:29] <maddawg2> without having a network connection
[21:30] <daftykins> you can't
[21:30] <maddawg2> daftykins really????
[21:30] <maddawg2> wtf
[21:30] <happyfr0gg> I continue to have unmet dependencies and held broken packages. How to fix???  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898471/
[21:31] <maddawg2> i kinda need to tho...
[21:31] <syntroPi> MrPigBearMan, actually i dont really know but i would guess its those PNG's in "ls /usr/share/pixmaps/ /usr/share/app-install/icons/"
[21:31] <MrPigBearMan> maddawg2,  you are going to have to DL the paackages some how.  save to a local machine and then when setting up (maybe a different inage that is large with corre utils and what no. ) then install the debs via dpkg
[21:31] <MoProductions> IS there a reason why I’d get a Broken Pipe error trying to access a networked drive if i’ve only left it alone for a couple minutes?
[21:32] <daftykins> maddawg2: oh well in that case, lets get the devs to re-engineer everything solely for you!
[21:32] <daftykins> maddawg2: oh, actually you can :P
[21:32] <MrPigBearMan> maddawg2,  or make a iso that has all the packages that you would like then use that image to burn.  It could already have a user and what not.  But not sure why you can not get online
[21:32] <mavidoritos> i have a big problem
[21:32] <maddawg2> MrPigBearMan, well that's a problem then.... this is a virtual machine at a colo and i am having issues getting it to connect to the network and they need the config file but since i cant even get past the first step i cant show them that the configuration is correct
[21:32] <mavidoritos> it says: Read only File System
[21:32] <mavidoritos> i cant change anything
[21:33] <mavidoritos> what is the read only file system
[21:33] <daftykins> maddawg2: are you 100% sure your VPS provider doesn't provide an automated way of loading an OS... all mine have
[21:33] <mavidoritos> i dont know how i did it
[21:34] <eeee> mavidoritos: what are you talking about?
[21:34] <daftykins> maddawg2: here we go, got it... i'm booting from a 64-bit ISO of 14.04 server - press F4 on the boot screen menu and select "Install a minimal system"
[21:34] <maddawg2> daftykins yes they do,... but not for vmware esxi.. they only set up the management interface.. in order to give the guests network access i have to use a failover IP and set the NIC in vmware to the correct MAC... this was all working fine and dandy until they changed the gateway address and told me via email i had to change my settings for anything using the failover
[21:34] <daftykins> maddawg2: this was google result #1
[21:34] <MrPigBearMan> maddawg2,  take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/409607/how-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-server-iso or yocto or buildroot there are alot of options out there.  Though not for beginners
[21:34] <maddawg2> well you must have done an amazing search cuz i've been looking and didnt see one
[21:34] <mavidoritos> eeee,
[21:34] <maddawg2> but thanks
[21:34] <daftykins> MrPigBearMan: no thanks, that's a huge waste of time - solution already solved. occam's razor :P
[21:35] <MrPigBearMan> lol
[21:35] <mavidoritos> i want to install some programs via apt-get
[21:35] <mavidoritos> it says
[21:35] <mavidoritos> Error: Read-Only File System
[21:35] <happyfr0gg> Real quick, does posts marked into ubuntu dot pastebin expire?
[21:35] <pa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dahdi-linux/+bug/1312421  <-- can someone confirm that the   proposed solution still works / does not work anymore? patch seems to fail patching the source tree here..
[21:35] <daftykins> mavidoritos: did you boot in recovery mode?
[21:36] <mavidoritos> daftykins, in recovery mode it says me again Read-Only File System
[21:36] <mavidoritos> i dont know what is read only file system
[21:36] <daftykins> mavidoritos: yes you need to remount rw, see here...
[21:36] <eeee> mavidoritos: in recovery-mode it's supposed to be read-only
[21:36] <daftykins> !recovery | mavidoritos Read step #8
[21:36] <mavidoritos> daftykins, ok i'll try
[21:36] <maddawg2> Nope daftkins doesnt work
[21:36] <maddawg2> still needs me to configure a network card at startup
[21:37] <maddawg2> gah
[21:37] <Beldar> maddawg2, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct
[21:37] <maddawg2> Beldar I am aware.. thanks...  I just didnt that time
[21:37] <sDomce> Hello, guys can someone help me with ubuntu?
[21:37] <maddawg2> sorry for the typo
[21:38] <daftykins> maddawg2: screenshot
[21:38] <rollingping> Hi. I have an iso but i don't know if it is 14.04 or 14.04.1 is there any file that shows version information?
[21:38] <daftykins> sDomce: yes ask a question
[21:38] <maddawg2> just a sec
[21:39] <Beldar> maddawg2, No biggie we just see nicks not used continuously and we never know what the users know. ;)
[21:39] <sDomce> today I installed ubuntu and I don't like it :/ sorry guys but it's true, and right now i want get back to linux mint.
[21:39] <sDomce> can someone tell me what kind of softwares i need and etc
[21:39] <Beldar> sDomce, The mint channel would be your place.
[21:39] <sDomce> yeah but right now im using ubuntu
[21:40] <sDomce> and i want just install linux mint to my usb
[21:40] <sDomce> but softwares can't authorise my usb stick
[21:40] <sDomce> :/
[21:40] <Beldar> sDomce, Than ask in there channel loading a usb is easy stuff and you have handfuls of apps to choose.
[21:41] <Beldar> sDomce, try unetbootin
[21:41] <sDomce> I tried to use Unetbootin
[21:41] <sDomce> but still bad
[21:41] <Beldar> sDomce, Okay try the few offered at pendrivelinux
[21:42] <sDomce> oh and I tried that one I opened with wine software still bad but whats weird that my computer can authorise but softwares can't :/
[21:43] <Beldar> sDomce, I use this one, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[21:44] <some1> I was addicted to watching pornography for 10 years, write me if you want to know more :)
[21:45] <Beldar> !ot | some1
[21:45] <c|oneman> some1: the shame there is you probably never watched 60fps porn on the internet.
[21:46] <daftykins> c|oneman: do not engage such spammers
[21:46] <syntroPi> rollingping, either http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS   or   http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/MD5SUMS
[21:46] <c|oneman> ah
[21:46] <c|oneman> I'm still learning which channels are broluv channels and which are serious support channels
[21:47] <daftykins> c|oneman: topics are clues
[21:47] <Beldar> sDomce, There are linux usb loaders at pendrive, don;t use wine for this.
[21:47] <rollingping> syntroPi, thank you!
[21:48] <mavidoritos> i have one question too
[21:48] <mavidoritos> i installed 10.04 lts
[21:48] <mavidoritos> i upgraded 12.04 firstly
[21:48] <mavidoritos> it was good
[21:48] <Beldar> mavidoritos, All in one post and to the point.
[21:48] <mavidoritos> but when i upgrade to 14.04 system doesnt start
[21:49] <mavidoritos> only black screen
[21:49] <mavidoritos> monitor shuts down after boot
[21:49] <Beldar> mavidoritos, Lay off the enter
[21:49] <daftykins> mavidoritos: how does this relate to you remounting read-write and installing packages?
[21:50] <mavidoritos> daftykins, i read your link. i tried it. now it is going well. but i cant mount my usb stick now :) i use sudo mount vfat /dev/sdb /media/external
[21:51] <daftykins> mavidoritos: why are you trying to mount a flash drive to it? shouldn't you be fixing things and then rebooting into normal mode?
[21:52] <mavidoritos> ntfs sticks goes well with ntfs-3g, but fat32 sticks
[21:52] <mavidoritos> now i start in normal mode
[21:53] <mavidoritos> i used apt-get install. i worked. now only problem is my usb stick. i hope it will be fixed soon :)
[21:53] <mavidoritos> i need to mount usb stick because i have to boot from usb stick to install ubuntu 14.04
[21:54] <msx> maddawgEOL: EOL lol, sorry, busy here. Did you solve your issue? May be your ISP is remembering your router's MAC so it wont refuse to work with your system until they purge it
[21:54] <mavidoritos> in ubuntu-forums they said me: You need to make a clean install. But i know Ubuntu 14.04 is too heavy for my Celeron 1000A.
[21:55] <daftykins> mavidoritos: alright so just use a program or 'dd' the ISO onto the FAT flash drive. no need to mount
[21:55] <daftykins> mavidoritos: so... what spec is this system you're trying to get 14.04 onto?
[21:55] <syntroPi> mavidoritos, if you want to make a bootstick from an iso from an ubuntu you could use usb-creator-gtk for that
[21:55] <mavidoritos> can i use xchat script for system info in this channel=?
[21:55] <mavidoritos>  CPU  Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU                1100MHz (1099 MHz)
[21:55] <mavidoritos>  Physical Memory  Size: 375,48 mb | Used: 176,90 mb (47%) | Free: 198,58 mb ||||||||||
[21:55] <mavidoritos>  Page File  Size: 905,99 mb | Used: 141,66 mb (16%) | Free: 764,33 mb ||||||||||
[21:55] <mavidoritos>  Virtual Memory  Size: 2,00 gb | Used: 1,25 gb (63%) | Free: 1,96 gb ||||||||||
[21:56] <msx> mavidoritos: you could try Xubuntu or Lubuntu or just install Ubuntu and then install over it a lighter desktop or window manager
[21:56] <daftykins> mavidoritos: don't spam the channel like that.
[21:56] <msx> mavidoritos: i use awesome wm, was using spectrwm before
[21:56] <daftykins> mavidoritos: yeah that thing isn't good enough for even lubuntu... i'd give up if i were you, bury that thing
[21:56] <mavidoritos> daftykins, i am sorry. i will not do again.
[21:57] <maddawgEOL> msx unforutnately have not figured it out... but i dont think that is the issue... it's somethign completely different.. it's not a "traditional" set up in the way you think
[21:57] <msx> maddawgEOL: wan to do a little debug?
[21:57] <daftykins> maddawgEOL: just FYI you can hit escape and get a menu of setup stages so you might be able to skip network config
[21:57] <LostNva> what keyboard symbol are those lines mavidoritos? after 1.96gb, never could figure that out
[21:57] <daftykins> LostNva: pipe
[21:57] <daftykins> |||
[21:57] <LostNva> how do you do it
[21:57] <mavidoritos> i dont know it is a script
[21:58] <daftykins> LostNva: well i have a UK keyboard, so me telling you probably isn't of any use :)
[21:59] <LostNva> ok, ive been wondering that for a while, I know its not on my keyboard by default
[21:59] <bencc> I'm trying to install several packages and getting: Package diff is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:59] <bencc> how can I tell which package require it?
[21:59] <eeee> LostNva: it should be next to Enter, and it's the same button that you use for "\" .. shift + that gets you it
[22:00] <Ben64> bencc: probably diffutils
[22:00] <mavidoritos> daftykins, i'll try lubuntu :) if not, i'll continue with 10.04 :)
[22:00] <LostNva> | hehe finally i can sleep, thanks
[22:00] <bencc> Ben64: thanks
[22:00] <mavidoritos> LostNva, :)
[22:00] <daftykins> mavidoritos: only 10.04 server is supported, you can't get help in here with it. that system really just needs to be thrown in recycling and replaced
[22:00] <maddawgEOL> thanks daftykins i gave up trying.. i have a ubuntu desktop machine already set up that I am trying to see if i can get that to work... of course they want to see my /etc/network/interfaces so now I'm trying to get ubuntu to not ignore that...
[22:01] <maddawgEOL> but of course even that is a prolbem
[22:01] <daftykins> maddawgEOL: oh separate issues, when you said it was blank, that's 100% wrong - it always has content even when network connections are managed by network manager. it's also easy to create a config to sort that out
[22:02] <maddawgEOL> oh?
[22:06] <rollingping> I have a 14.04 dvd. should i download 14.04.1 , or updating my packages by ubuntu-updates will be ok?
[22:06] <ObrienDave> rollingping, you should be able to update using dist-upgrade
[22:07] <rollingping> thank you ObrienDave
[22:07] <MoProductions> is dist-upgrade the command?
[22:07] <MoProductions> <— linux noob
[22:08] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:08] <ObrienDave> in terminal
[22:08] <MoProductions> should I run both?
[22:08] <ObrienDave> yes
[22:08] <MoProductions> Cut ’n paste time.  Thank you
[22:09] <ObrienDave> yuppers
[22:09] <daftykins> although don't cut, someone else might want to read it! ;)
[22:09] <ObrienDave> ;P
[22:09] <MoProductions> heh
[22:09] <MoProductions> i can’t get a network drive to unmount, i dont think i’m quite ready to change irc features
[22:09] <ObrienDave> copy and paste per daftykins recommendation ;P
[22:10] <MoProductions> already done.  well not pasted in a terminal yet but pastd in my growing linux knowledge base
[22:10] <daftykins> MoProductions: make sure you're not still in its' bath when trying to unmount it
[22:10] <daftykins> *path, rather than bath
[22:11] <daftykins> i'd hope you're not a serial bath thief
[22:11] <fdassdff> Hi, I need to spin up a quick ubuntu 14.04 instance to test something on postfix, but I don't want to bother with a full on vmware/virtualbox instance.  Is there some sort of virtualization program I can use to do that?
[22:11] <ObrienDave> bath, TMI ;P
[22:11] <MoProductions> well i’m trying to unmount via the Unity finder-esque window.  even after about a minute, it’ll complain if i try to unmount and say it has a broken pipe if i try to access
[22:11] <MoProductions> i always code in the bath
[22:12] <daftykins> fdassdff: chec out digitalocean.com - you can put some $ of credit on via paypal then pay just fractions of cents/pence to spin up test instances
[22:12] <daftykins> *check
[22:12] <daftykins> damn what's with my typing tonight
[22:13] <fdassdff> daftykins, digitalocean is great, except it's still not quick enough
[22:13] <fdassdff> I want something that can run on my own machine
[22:13] <daftykins> fdassdff: sounds like your standards are way too high.
[22:13] <daftykins> no further ideas i'm afraid
[22:13] <fdassdff> daftykins, It's possible. Gotta aim for the stars though ;)
[22:13] <k1l> fdassdff: you mean like docker.io ?
[22:14] <fdassdff> k1l, the docker website seemed like it was geared towards deployment
[22:16] <fdassdff> I just want to spin up some sort of vm that boots Ubuntu so I can look at the default config for postfix, and then I won't need the vm any more
[22:18] <fdassdff> After some searching, lxc might be what i need
[22:20] <syntroPi> does someone know where these evolution-calender-factory and evolution-source-registry processes come from? they cause very annoying popup spam when using gnome-shell and trying to keyboard search for an app
[22:20] <beanee> i got a bash question for you
[22:20] <k1l> beanee: maybe try #bash
[22:20] <beanee> how do i get the if loop to hit more then one  number? : if [ $COUNTER -eq 1 or 2 ]
[22:20] <beanee> ty will try
[22:21] <TJ-> beanee: "if [ $COUNTER -eq 1 -o $COUNTER -eq 2 ]"
[22:23] <beanee> thank you so much
[22:23] <beanee> you guys are amazing
[22:23] <missvaleska> yay
[22:23] <missvaleska> Can anyone help me with this?
[22:23] <missvaleska> http://pastebin.com/U301HvqU
[22:24] <TJ-> fdassdff: if you have postfix package installed, the default config is at "/usr/share/postfix/main.cf.debian"
[22:25] <fdassdff> TJ-, thanks good to know, but I don't have it installed
[22:26] <eeee> fdassdff: have a blast http://paste.ubuntu.com/7898948/
[22:26] <TJ-> fdassdff: "apt-get source postfix" then look in the "debian/" directory
[22:28] <sine0> ok everything was going great untill i discovered pulseaudio
[22:28] <fdassdff> eeee, TJ-, thanks both, but I'm taking the chance to learn lxc anyway  hahah
[22:28] <fdassdff> Or, I would if their page wasn't down :/
[22:36] <wxl> anyone know when systemd is official?
[22:37] <k1l> wxl: with 16.04 systemd is the planned standard
[22:38] <wxl> k1l: thank god :)
[22:38] <MoProductions> are they skipping 15?
[22:38] <k1l> MoProductions: why should they?
[22:39] <MoProductions> if 14 is the latest, then they’d be skipping it for 16.  but you might be speaking about two revs or 14 isn’t the latest
[22:40] <k1l> MoProductions: i did not tell anything about releases in the year 2015. is just told that the target is to ship systemd as standard in the 16.04 release.
[22:40] <MoProductions> ah, i didnt know that the release matched the year, but that makes total sense
[22:40] <daftykins> MoProductions: what'll really bake your noodle is when you see that x.04 means April and x.10 means October
[22:40] <MoProductions> haha
[22:40] <k1l> MoProductions: and there is no 14 and 15. its always year:month. and month is always .04 or .10
[22:41] <ObrienDave> oh the horror ;P
[22:41] <MoProductions> yeah i’m not sure if that’ll fit in the ol’ noggin today
[22:41] <daftykins> :D
[22:41] <MoProductions> what if there’s two in a month
[22:41] <MoProductions> there’s yer horror!!!
[22:41] <k1l> !releases | MoProductions
[22:41] <k1l> please read that :)
[22:41] <ObrienDave> the universe ceases to exist
[22:42] <MoProductions> have they ever missed a release?
[22:42] <ObrienDave> MoProductions, NO! don't read it, your head will explode ;P
[22:42] <k1l> MoProductions: read it. maybe you will find the answer
[22:43] <beanee> i got one more for you :P
[22:43] <MoProductions> i’m still getting used to gui’s with linux heh
[22:43] <beanee> let COUNTER BE shuf -i 2000-65000 -n 1
[22:43] <MoProductions> back in my day, it was command line only!!
[22:44] <daftykins> ok, back to support only please. general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:45] <eeee> beanee: try this, let beanee /join #bash; done
[22:45] <beanee> eeee they only come up with links -.-
[22:46] <beanee> aand not the one that helps you
[22:46] <ObrienDave> lordy
[22:46] <MoProductions> ok back to support.  Why would a folder, which I just accessed 6 mintues ago via network, suddenly give me an error about the file being an unknown type?
[22:47] <incognito> Why has google talk been broken in 12.04 for so long. I've never seen google talk break for so long.
[22:47] <designbybeck_> is there not a way to just double click on a .sh from the GUI? or do you have to go to the terminal each time and do ./file.sh
[22:48] <MoProductions> test
[22:48] <ObrienDave> designbybeck, you should be able to right click and execute
[22:49] <ObrienDave> you might have to make permissions executable
[22:49] <cuddylier> rsync -av username@remote_host:/home/servers/hg1/ /home/test
[22:49] <cuddylier> Does anyone know how to add a SSH port to that?
[22:49] <designbybeck_> ObrienDave, there isn't an "Execute"
[22:49] <designbybeck_> ObrienDave, I have turned it to make excitable
[22:50] <Guest94230> Hi everyone, i am a beginner in the development and i have a little trouble understanding the process to establish a php test after you install LAMP. This includes the file /var/www/test.php to create, i have typed that ? On Nano ? thanks you in advance !
[22:51] <daftykins> cuddylier: try host:port/path
[22:51] <ObrienDave> designbybeck, i forget i'm on Xubuntu. I have a right-click execute for .sh
[22:51] <incognito> Is this the regular ubuntu channel. It seems like the activity is really slow compared to usual.
[22:51] <designbybeck_> ah gotcha... yeah sorry I'm on Ubuntu
[22:51] <daftykins> incognito: of course it is...
[22:52] <ObrienDave> !patience | incognito
[22:52] <cuddylier> daftykins: Didn't work sadly, still says port 22 when I execute it
[22:52] <daftykins> cuddylier: odd, that's what the man page says
[22:53] <incognito> ObrienDave: I already know what the ubunt bot said. I just wanted to make sure I'm on the right channel because it's moving so slow.
[22:54] <TJ-> cuddylier: You did "rsync -av username@remote_host:12345/home/servers/hg1/ /home/test" ?
[22:55] <cuddylier> I got it, --rsh='ssh -p8023'
[22:55] <cuddylier> Adding that changes the port
[22:56] <jack_> I'm trying to get docky to auto-hide and I know I need to use metacity but I'm having trouble locating the compositing manager on startup. any suggestions?
[22:57] <TJ-> cuddylier: You did "rsync -av rsync://username@remote_host:12345/home/servers/hg1/ /home/test"  should be equivalent
[22:57] <sine0> what in GODS name do you use to unrar an archive on linux
[22:57] <cuddylier> Already tried that, didn't work
[22:57] <gamingrobot> I have another issue, my webcam is upside down in chrome, I have tried the LD_PRELOAD and it just gives me a black box
[22:57] <k1l> sine0: fileroller with installed unrar package. and no need for swearing
[22:57] <daftykins> sine0: hilariously, unrar or unrar-free
[22:58] <sine0> daftykins: thanks but they did not work for me
[22:58] <eeee> cuddylier: using rsync:// as TJ- suggests is different than what you used
[22:58] <cuddylier> Ah
[22:58] <cuddylier> I see what you mean
[22:58] <gamingrobot> the LD_PRELOAD works in chromium to fix the problem but not chrome
[22:58] <daftykins> sine0: can you detail 'did not work' a little better? what kind of archive is it?
[22:58] <MoProductions> thanks for the help folks.  ttyt
[22:58] <sine0> daftykins: its a split archive of rar files
[22:59] <daftykins> sine0: oh a spanned archive, i see
[22:59] <k1l> sine0: that shuld work ootb, too
[22:59] <daftykins> sine0: i bet you're picking the wrong one as #1
[22:59] <k1l> sine0: so its you to blame as long as you cant prove more details with errors
[23:00] <sine0> daftykins: my sweet pea, im picking the right one
[23:00] <sine0> k1l: ok i get ya one sec
[23:00] <daftykins> prove it
[23:01] <sine0> i wonder if i have to specify the file  names as in r**
[23:01] <daftykins> nope the main file will have those
[23:02] <syntroPi> sine0, there os the package "rar" from  Eugene Roshal, though you might register/buy it
[23:02] <k1l> just unrar the file.rar or the first one file.rar.part1
[23:02] <syntroPi> sine0, its in the multiverse repo though
[23:02] <k1l> unrar will grab the rest of the files as long as they are in the same directory and readable by the user
[23:03] <sine0> i am picking .rar the next one is r00 r02 ...
[23:04] <k1l> sine0: i bet unrar is putting errors in the terminal. that are (other than on windows) with the exact issue description. so you need to read them
[23:04] <daftykins> sine0: still waiting for an "ls" of the directory, followed by what you're running and what output it gives, pasted to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:05] <jack_> anybody know anything about Composting in Lubuntu? I'm trying to get docky to autohide but the two tutorials I've found suggest using gconf-editor to change the settings but I'm not seeing what's suggested
[23:05] <jack_> I'm assuming they are antiquated tutrials
[23:06] <jack_> tutorials*
[23:06] <daftykins> there is no compositing on LXDE as far as i know, if i understand rightly
[23:08] <jack_> daftykins, thank you
[23:09] <jack_> They recommend changing the window manager to fix the issue but that isn't working too well
[23:09] <TJ-> sine0: Do you have "unrar" or unrar-free" package installed?
[23:11] <sine0> guys im 14.04
[23:11] <sine0> http://bal.ms/unrar.png
[23:12] <sine0> i have unrar and unrar-free
[23:12] <sine0> im only using the terminal command line
[23:14] <fdassdff> How can I detach from a lxc instance?
[23:14] <fdassdff> I've tried ctrla+q and ctrl+a+a+q, neither works
[23:15] <fdassdff> So far my only solution is to power  off the machine
[23:15] <fdassdff> *the container
[23:15] <sine0> im also running amd64 if that makes a difference
[23:15] <six_> hi i have a problem
[23:16] <six_> sound in my linux not work
[23:16] <eeee> sine0: try unrar not unrar-free
[23:17] <six_> only rustle
[23:17] <six_> what to do ?
[23:19] <sine0> I have. it claims invalid archive
[23:20] <k1l> sine0: you got a .sfv file so check it
[23:24] <sine0> k1l: giw do you in the terminal point to the file that is in the current location
[23:24] <sine0> giw=how
[23:24] <daftykins> sine0: run again with -xv
[23:25] <Guest94230> i have a problem with test php lamp .. :/
[23:25] <k1l> just name it. the program should search in the directory you are in
[23:25] <sine0> hahh!
[23:25] <k1l> Guest94230: what problem?
[23:25] <sine0> *.sfv
[23:25] <daftykins> lol.
[23:26] <k1l> sine0: you dont need "*". just use tab-completion to name the correct one
[23:27] <sine0> k1l: you wont beleive me when i say that tab completion has stopped working
[23:29] <Guest94230> k1l: i just installed lamp and i can not get php to market test, i always answer this : The requested URL/testing.php/ was not found on this server.
[23:31]  * ryan_46 test
[23:33] <k1l> Guest94230: is this the apache mysql etc packages from ubuntu repo or is it some package from somewhere else?
[23:34] <cuddylier> For a bash script, if a prompt comes up asking for a password, can I use echo to put it into the prompt or what do I use?
[23:34] <maddawgEOL> !pastebin
[23:34] <Guest94230> packages from ubuntu
[23:35] <k1l> what does "ls -al /path/to/file.php" give you? change /path/to to the real path
[23:35] <OERIAS> Help on failed installation of Ubuntu Touch.
[23:35] <k1l> !touch | OERIAS
[23:36] <OERIAS> Is this not Ubuntu
[23:36] <OERIAS> ?
[23:36] <OERIAS> How ironic
[23:36] <k1l> OERIAS: stop
[23:36] <maddawgEOL> can someone look at this config...  http://imgur.com/pDuWH6S   for some reason after making this modification it wont work
[23:36] <maddawgEOL> http://imgur.com/pDuWH6S
[23:36] <maddawgEOL> oops didnt mean to paste that twice
[23:36] <maddawgEOL> i cant get the networking service to start even
[23:37] <k_sze> lubuntu won't detect my USB harddisk.
[23:37] <maddawgEOL> using this guide:  http://help.ovh.co.uk/BridgeClient
[23:37] <k1l> OERIAS: the specialists for the ubuntu touch are in #ubuntu-touch . so if you ask there you get a better chance of help. but you could be ranting in here about ubuntu touch and get no help. your choice
[23:37] <OERIAS> I'll go.
[23:38] <OerHeks> maddawgEOL, defualt ?
[23:39] <maddawgEOL> i dont understand your question OerHeks
[23:39] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, learn to pastebin
[23:39] <OerHeks> see line pre-down route del defualt ... default
[23:39] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, ummm I cant cuz i have no internet fool
[23:40] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, you copied and pasted an image
[23:40] <grobe0ba> you can copy a text file
[23:40] <OerHeks> for the rest, i am not sure it will work, typo's will interrupt
[23:40] <grobe0ba> also, for clarity, dont indent the iface eth0 line
[23:40] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, i took a screen shot from my PC of a virtual machine yes
[23:40] <LapJup> in this 2013 article the writer says the touch screen would not work with ubuntu. is that still true? http://liliputing.com/2013/10/booting-ubuntu-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
[23:40] <maddawgEOL> the virtual machine ks at a remote location WITHOUT internet becuase the config is messed up therefore i couldnt access pastebin
[23:41] <maddawgEOL> so i did the next best thing which would be a screenshot
[23:41] <maddawgEOL> i am well aware of how to pastebin tho
[23:41] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, w/e. anyhow, like i was saying generally one would not indent the iface eth0 line
[23:41] <grobe0ba> it shouldn't affect it, but it improves clarity
[23:41] <grobe0ba> but yeah
[23:41] <grobe0ba> you're deleting your default route
[23:41] <grobe0ba> right after you set it
[23:41] <grobe0ba> and the route to said gw
[23:41] <grobe0ba> which is why nothing works
[23:42] <OerHeks> i wouldn't do it either without disabling networkmanager
[23:42] <maddawgEOL> well i was following the instructions here: http://help.ovh.co.uk/BridgeClient
[23:42] <grobe0ba> err, wait, that's pre-down
[23:42] <grobe0ba> nm
[23:42] <maddawgEOL> since this is an OVH provided dedicated server
[23:42] <maddawgEOL> and it's pre-down
[23:42] <grobe0ba> you don't need a pre-down though
[23:42] <maddawgEOL> err what you just said
[23:42] <grobe0ba> if it's going down, it'll get scrubbed anyhow
[23:42] <grobe0ba> also, don't set the route like that
[23:42] <grobe0ba> change the netmask to include the correct subnets
[23:42] <maddawgEOL> i know that grobe0ba but i've tried it EVERY possible way only to be told to do it the way my provider tells me to..so I copied the EXACT steps they told me
[23:43] <maddawgEOL> well maybe not EVERY possible way, but every way i could think of
[23:43] <grobe0ba> well, using netmask 255.255.255.255 you'll never get to ANYTHING anyhow
[23:43] <grobe0ba> regardless of the rest
[23:43] <maddawgEOL> yes you will
[23:43] <maddawgEOL> that is their netmask
[23:43] <maddawgEOL> http://help.ovh.co.uk/BridgeClient
[23:43] <maddawgEOL> see that is their exact netmask and is even in the email
[23:44] <maddawgEOL> the email they sent with my config settings.. that is the netmask they use for that failover
[23:44] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, that is not the correct subnet
[23:44] <grobe0ba> you can ignore me if you like
[23:44] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, read this please http://help.ovh.co.uk/BridgeClient
[23:44] <grobe0ba> but it is incorrect
[23:44] <maddawgEOL> ummmm... that is not the incorrect subnet
[23:44] <maddawgEOL> you probably think it should be 255.255.255.0
[23:45] <maddawgEOL> i asked that and no it is 255.255.255.255
[23:45] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, it should also not be 255.255.255.0
[23:45] <grobe0ba> that is for a /24
[23:45] <maddawgEOL> ok then what should it be?
[23:45] <grobe0ba> i'm still pondering that
[23:45] <maddawgEOL> i will try it that way but i've now spent all day being told by a number of techs it's 255.255.255.255 and it's outlined on their own site
[23:46] <maddawgEOL> did you even look at that page to see what i was doing
[23:46] <david259> good fellow
[23:46] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, i am indeed reading it now
[23:46] <david259> :)
[23:46] <grobe0ba> but since you ask for help, and insist on doing it their way without actually considering any advice
[23:46] <grobe0ba> i obv don't need to read it anymore
[23:46] <grobe0ba> have a fine day
[23:46] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to print certain text for a requested arguement? E.g. a SSH password in a bash script
[23:47] <cuddylier> So the script outputs the password to the reqest
[23:47] <cuddylier> request*
[23:47] <maddawgEOL> you havent given advice
[23:47] <grobe0ba> cuddylier, you mean print the password someone enters into ssh?
[23:47] <maddawgEOL> you just said it's wrong without even bothering to see what i am doing
[23:47] <cuddylier> Yes grobe0ba
[23:47] <grobe0ba> cuddylier, not possible
[23:47] <grobe0ba> specifically designed to be not possible, in fact
[23:47] <cuddylier> Is it possible to print output for a requested input at all? No?
[23:47] <maddawgEOL> cuz i also thought it was wrong but then found out that it was not...
[23:48] <grobe0ba> cuddylier, if you read the password in yourself, and then send it to ssh, then yes
[23:48] <cuddylier> I mean if something else in a script requests input
[23:48] <grobe0ba> cuddylier, no
[23:48] <cuddylier> Or is it the same for all things that request input, they all have to be manually entered?
[23:48] <grobe0ba> you cannot grab that input
[23:48] <jose__> hhola
[23:48] <cuddylier> If I had another command that requested inpuut, how do I put input in?
[23:48] <jose__> algun bogotano
[23:48] <grobe0ba> you can use a script and have the user input things to it, and then send to commands
[23:48] <jose__> o bogotana
[23:49] <k1l> !es | jose__
[23:49] <Name141> How do you add user that isn't allowed to use 'sudo' or do admin things ?
[23:50] <david259> uns have stable version of ubuntu 14.4 pcl OpenNI, capture data, but I need to scan the given problem nvidia cuda
[23:50] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, post that imgur link again, would you?
[23:50] <grobe0ba> i think i see something
[23:50] <TJ-> Name141: simply don't add the user to the 'sudo' group
[23:50] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, http://imgur.com/pDuWH6S
[23:51] <Name141> TJ-: I assume the user added during install is added to the sudo group ?
[23:51] <jack_> if I'm using xfce and I want to use conky, would the transparency work with the window manager?
[23:51] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, your ip is .152.249. according to that site, your gw should be 152.254 ... that's not what you're setting for the gateway
[23:51] <grobe0ba> you're setting a gw in a completely different net
[23:54] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, they changed it this morning actually it used to be that and use to work great with that
[23:56] <maddawgEOL> but as of this morning my last contact with them said that it was changed to be the gateway of my main dedi which is the 192 address i provided
[23:57] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, so, you're IP address stayed the same, but the gateway changed?
[23:58] <grobe0ba> or vice versa
[23:58] <grobe0ba> either way
[23:58] <grobe0ba> honestly, i thinked they are fucking up hard core
[23:58] <grobe0ba> 'cause now that i look at it, that should work
[23:58] <grobe0ba> i get why they have the netmask at 255.255.255.255
[23:58] <TJ-> maddawgEOL: Your "post-up route add 192.99.8.254" is missing "dev eth0", compared to the instructions you linked
[23:59] <grobe0ba> TJ-, bloody hell. you see the damndest things
[23:59] <grobe0ba> and that is almost certainly what is wrong
[23:59] <grobe0ba> wtf
[23:59] <maddawgEOL> grobe0ba, yes
[23:59] <grobe0ba> maddawgEOL, check what TJ- said
[23:59] <cuddylier> If I generate a rsa keypass, will logging in via SSH with a password still work? I'm scared of locking myself out.