[00:20] <sebas5384> jcastro: ping
[00:29] <sebas5384> lazyPower: jcastro was telling me that there is a team working in making juju local workflow better, do you know something about this?
[00:30] <sebas5384> there is more than 5 people using in their local dev environment
[00:31] <sebas5384> here with me
[00:31] <sebas5384> so we have a lot to report as users :)
[06:39] <ranjib> hi, anyone using juju with lxc?
[06:40] <ranjib> im trying it out for the first time (juju), with unprivileged lxc. but its not working. juju status shows the units in pending state
[06:41] <sarnold> ranjib: iirc, the 'juju bootstrap' has to be done with root... and the first deploy will take a long time to download the images..
[06:43] <ranjib> sarnold, i'll try it out. will the resultant containers will also be root owned?
[06:45] <sarnold> ranjib: hrm, I think so..
[06:45] <ranjib> hmm.. sudo juju bootstrap fails :-/ . bootstrapping must not be done with sudo
[06:47] <sarnold> with the local environment in your config?
[06:47] <ranjib> yes
[06:48] <ranjib> where i can find the debug log,, ?
[06:49] <sarnold> I think there's some in /var/log/lxc/...
[06:50] <ranjib> its not lxc related. i am running lxc fine,, with cli or via the api. im trying to understand the juju-lxc provision layer..
[06:51] <ranjib> since im not running lxc as root, it should not go to the global log
[09:30] <therealmarv> Hi there! Is there any of the charmers admins and can look at my charm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1343194 I want to give a presentation of our system with juju at a student webfest at CERN this weekend using Juju and this bug/submission is not reviewed yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1343194
[09:30] <_mup_> Bug #1343194: New charm: PyBossa <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1343194>
[09:30] <_mup_> Bug #1343194: New charm: PyBossa <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1343194>
[09:47] <AskUbuntu> Add relationship and get details between two charms in juju local | http://askubuntu.com/q/504482
[12:52] <marcoceppi> therealmarv: o/ we'll have a look at it soon. We've had a large influx of charms these past few weeks you can see our review queue here:  http://manage.jujucharms.com/tools/review-queue
[12:52] <marcoceppi> for what it's worth, I don't see it in the queue
[12:53] <marcoceppi> therealmarv: you missed the step during submission, where you must assign the bug to charmers. I've done this so it should show in the queue shortly
[12:55] <therealmarv> oh, ok… argh, yes missed that step during submission. Thanks!
[12:58] <jamespage> gnuoy, this one could do with a review - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/precise/nvp-transport-node/tarball-url/+merge/223732
[12:58] <jamespage> os related
[12:58] <jamespage> I'll look at your console stuff again now
[12:58] <gnuoy> looking
[13:00] <Odd_Bloke> Woohoo, got Juju working locally.
[13:09] <gnuoy> jamespage, have for that to go straight to lp:charms/nvp-transport-node ?
[13:09] <jamespage> gnuoy, yes
[13:09] <jamespage> gnuoy, hmm
[13:09] <jamespage> gnuoy, yes
[13:10] <jamespage> gnuoy, no - policy says it does next
[13:10] <gnuoy> jamespage, I pushed it between 2 yes and 2 hesitation, sorry :(
[13:10] <jamespage> gnuoy, hey - np
[13:10] <jamespage> its not widely used so low impact rish anyway
[13:28] <jamespage> gnuoy, spice is working OK - no cigar with vnc tho
[13:29] <gnuoy> jamespage, it was working fine for me. which vnc type are you trying ?
[13:29] <jamespage> just vnc
[13:29] <gnuoy> ok, I'll take a look
[13:29] <jamespage> let me try with the specific options
[13:31] <jamespage> gnuoy, ah - I think I see
[13:31] <jamespage> switching the option does not take effect for running instances
[13:32] <gnuoy> jamespage, absolutely, I made a of that in the README
[13:32] <gnuoy> s/a of/a note of/
[14:31] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/504482/add-relationship-and-get-details-between-two-charms-in-juju-local
[14:31] <jcastro> I reworded this question to be more clear
[14:31] <jcastro> if someone wants to take a stab at it
[14:32] <jcastro> this would be a good question to answer with snippets from existing charms on getting addresses from each other, etc.
[14:36] <marcoceppi> jcastro: cool
[14:36]  * marcoceppi writes an answer
[14:39] <jcastro> marcoceppi, hatch has some questions, see juju-gui
[14:39] <jcastro> he's trying to answer it too
[14:39] <marcoceppi> jcastro: ack
[14:40] <lazyPower> I need some eyes on https://code.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/trusty/mongodb/charmhelpers_merge/+merge/228758 if someone has time.
[15:05] <marcoceppi> hatch jcastro http://askubuntu.com/a/504581/41
[15:07] <jcastro> nice work dude, yeah, that should be in the docs
[15:07] <marcoceppi> I think we should consider modeling the author docs after the upstart cookbook
[15:08] <marcoceppi> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[16:37] <sinzui> rbasak, I sketched out a set of jobs that certify ubuntu packages work as we expect. I tested 1.18.4+dfsg-0ubuntu0 and all packages pass. The suite is hardcoded to test the archs and series I saw. In future, the archs and series will be identified from the packages disocvered
[16:57] <jamespage> marcoceppi, hey - hows the py rewrite of mysql coming on?
[17:12] <lazyPower> jamespage: hey did the trusty ceilometer charm get un promulgated?
[17:12] <lazyPower> i have a test thats failing now, 404'ing due to a missing charm that was present yesterday.
[17:12] <jamespage> lazyPower, I hope not
[17:13] <lazyPower> jamespage: http://manage.jujucharms.com/charms/trusty we have a missing charm. it packed its bag and went on vacation
[17:13] <marcoceppi> jamespage lazyPower, it's in the charm store https://store.juju.ubuntu.com/charm-info?charms=ceilometer
[17:13] <marcoceppi> it's not int he charm world api
[17:14] <marcoceppi> http://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/charm//trusty/ceilometer
[17:14] <jamespage> lazyPower, https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charms/trusty/ceilometer/trunk
[17:14]  * marcoceppi goes to #juju-gui
[17:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: mysql is good. Had a bit of a hardware problem working on recovering it now
[18:39] <Ephektz> I'm at the point of pulling my hair out. Asking (what is likely to be) a stupid question is my last resort. I am testing manual provisioning across a set of three test servers. I have set up and bootstrapped my initial machine. I have added the other two machines, and I can see that they run through their courses (apt-get update, etc) and I see them when I do juju status. All of the series list as "trusty" yet when I attempt to deploy wordpress to one of the ma
[18:40] <Ephektz> Any help would be much appreciated.
[18:41] <sarnold> Ephektz: you were cut off att "to one of the ma"
[18:41] <Ephektz> .. "yet when I attempt to deploy wordpress to one of the machines, I get the following: "ERROR cannot assign unit "wordpress/0" to machine 1: series does not match" I have done a dist-upgrade and verified that everyone is on the same playing field. I've read through at least four different discussions on this, and have come to no conclusion or solution."
[18:41] <Ephektz> Thanks sarnold.
[18:42] <sarnold> Ephektz: I don't see a trusty wordpress charm: http://manage.jujucharms.com/charms/trusty
[18:42] <sarnold> Ephektz: there is a precise wordpress charm though: http://manage.jujucharms.com/charms/precise
[18:43] <Ephektz> Ah. Am I able to deploy a precise charm into a trust environment?
[18:43] <Ephektz> Juju is very new to me, apologies. I appreciate the feedback.
[18:44] <Ephektz> I hadn't even thought to look at the charm itself.
[18:45] <sarnold> Ephektz: the idea is that the charm should encapsulate the _best_ way to deploy a service. trusty is still pretty new, so not all the charms have been inspected to see how well they support trusty -- and, at least in the case of wordpress, I know the charmers have some changes they want to make to it in mind, so it  wouldn't be just small changes in the end
[18:46] <Ephektz> I see. Well, that clears this up. Thank you. In the future I will know to check for the series the charm supports. This is simply testing before I deploy across 8 colocated Mac Mini's.
[18:46] <sarnold> Ephektz: for most juju users, it doesn't much matter, they just 'deploy wordpress ; deploy mysql ; relate mysql wordpress' and they're off an drunning and don't care whether they are on precise or trusty -- it's different when you've got a few physical machines with expensive setup processes...
[18:47] <Ephektz> And indeed I was simply following the recommended testing on the Getting Started page.
[18:47] <Ephektz> I don't even need Wordpress. I -again- simply thought something in my deployment was broken, and didn't even consider the charm itself. This was very educational.
[18:47] <sarnold> I'm sorry I don't have any good concrete suggestions of next steps; I'm still relatively new to this myself..
[18:48] <sarnold> Ephektz: ah! that helps a bit :) but it does make following along a little harder, heh
[18:48] <Ephektz> No, you've helped more than my last two hours of rolling my face through glass.
[18:48] <sarnold> ooof. :)
[18:48] <lazyPower> jamespage: With this latest MongoDB merge (the monolithic refactor to charmhelpers) could you run an openstack deploy using the trusty mongodb charm and validate we are indeed g2g for your openstack use cases?
[18:49] <Ephektz> sarnold: Thanks again! Sadly, the Mac Mini's won't play nicely with MaaS, otherwise this probably wouldn't have been a consideration, much less an issue. Cheers!
[18:50] <sarnold> Ephektz: that's probably alright; I dunno if those macminis have the horsepower for an openstack deployment..
[18:50] <lazyPower> sebas5384: yeah, the entire ecosystems team is pretty much on that team. (sorry about the late reply, just scrolled up and saw it)
[18:50] <sarnold> Ephektz: .. but maybe lxc deployments to them would work alright? dunno.
[18:51] <Ephektz> sarnold: quad core i7's. They're not terrible, and very cheap to colocate. If you can do MaaS on Atom server procs, you can certainly do it on i7's. :)
[18:51] <sarnold> Ephektz: oooo
[18:51] <sarnold> Ephektz: sounds fun :)
[18:54] <Ephektz> sarnold: HP Moonshot systems use 8 core C2750 Atom boards, which have a Passmark score of 3797. The 3615QM i7's in the Mini has a Passmark of 7328. I'm running 16GB of RAM and SSD's in the machines, as well. They are fairly snappy.
[18:54] <Ephektz> sarnold: And while I understand we are comparing consumer to enterprise products, for 240 a month to colocate 8 machines including power and data, it isn't bad at all.
[18:56] <sarnold> Ephektz: heh, that sounds pretty good :) it might be worth trying openstack on those things and seeing what you get
[18:56] <sarnold> Ephektz: lunch time :) have fun
[18:56] <Ephektz> sarnold: Cheers!