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colonolGronhello, i am new to launchpad and could need some help. i only registered to push a fix09:46
colonolGronso i got the source made my change but now i am not sure how to push my change. this is what bzr info tells me: http://pastebin.com/d9KsGm8P09:46
colonolGronbut when i use: bzr push lp:~/g-bluehut/ubuntu-terminal-app/myfix" i get a "permission denied"09:46
cjwatsonYou have a stray / there.09:46
cjwatsonYou need "bzr push lp:~g-bluehut/ubuntu-terminal-app/myfix" - or you can abbreviate that to "bzr push lp:~/ubuntu-terminal-app/myfix" if you like, since bzr/LP knows your own username.09:46
cjwatsonWhat you can't do is put a slash between the ~ and your username.09:47
colonolGronoh, i see. thank you cjwatson09:47
cjwatsonyou're welcome09:48
colonolGronthe developers of the main branch dont get notified only by this, right? i still have to use "Propose branch for merging" on the website?09:49
cjwatsonCorrect.09:51
colonolGronokay10:01
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LocutusOfBorg1hi, quoting from ubuntu-devel16:26
LocutusOfBorg1<LocutusOfBorg1> the new buildd stack makes the build get stuck16:26
LocutusOfBorg1<LocutusOfBorg1> https://code.launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/firefox/+build/622443916:26
LocutusOfBorg1https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/135043516:29
ubot5Launchpad bug 1350435 in qemu (Ubuntu) "tcg.c:1693: tcg fatal error" [Undecided,New]16:29
LocutusOfBorg1can anybody please have a look?16:30
dobeyoh qemu crashing16:30
dobeysounds like a qemu bug16:31
cjwatsonI think that needs to be filed as a bug and escalated to qemu upstream16:31
dobeysurprised that didn't just fail though16:31
cjwatsonpreferably with a small test case16:31
cjwatsonit should be possible to exercise it locally with qemu-user16:31
cjwatsonsince this is just the qemu-user-static from trusty-updates now16:31
dobeycjwatson: well, i think maybe a bug that the build didn't immediately fail when that happened, too16:31
dobeybut yeah, the qemu crash itself should be reported against qemu16:32
cjwatsonperhaps, but qemu-user-static failures are often hard to recover from because the recovery code gets eaten ...16:32
cjwatsonthough the build should time out after a while16:32
cjwatsonyou can cancel it if you're more impatient than that16:33
LocutusOfBorg1nono, I just don't want to steal other people resources16:41
LocutusOfBorg1I'm not impatient, this build will never succeed unless the bug is fixed16:42
LocutusOfBorg1and there seems to be a patch16:42
cjwatsonif it can get into trusty-updates, that would get into scalingstack reasonably routinely16:42
LocutusOfBorg1wonderful16:43
LocutusOfBorg1the patch is not merged upstream yet16:46
LocutusOfBorg1Not Applicable, archived16:46
LocutusOfBorg1out of ideas, upstream seems to have rejected it16:47
infinityOh, that "patch" is the SUSE "just pin to a single core" hammer.16:59
infinityI do think we should use that in production too, I'm just unsure if we should also be shipping it in the distro.16:59
cjwatsonwould be slightly unfortunate to have to fork it, although I guess if we can do it in a PPA now it's a bit less unpleasant than having to do it in dak17:02
infinitycjwatson: Well, it really might be the right thing to ship in the distro too.  Stability has got to trump performance here for most people.17:03
infinitycjwatson: I know exactly why upstream doesn't want it, it's evil, masks problems, and is the wrong solution to the bug.  But, fixing all the actual bugs is way beyond what we're going to do ourselves.17:04
cjwatsonalso way beyond what upstream has said they're prepared to do17:05
infinityIndeed.  I don't think many people upstream view qemu-user as a sane and viable way to do the things we (and SUSE) do with it.17:06
infinityFor them, it's a one-off "run a binary hackishly" debugging tool.17:06
infinityAnd, indeed, I don't view it as a sane and viable solution to our problems either, it's just the solution we have until we get a metric wankton of arm64 kit to run kvm on.17:06
lifelessI must say thats a new unit to me (pun intended).17:07
infinitycjwatson: If we can work up a reliable local reproducer, I think I'd be happy to just SRU SUSE's patch in and call it done.17:10
infinityAnyhow, bedtime for backwards Adam.  Catch you later.17:14
bennabiycjwatson: Is there any good documentation on how to setup the launchpad build environment? I would like to set up a local server here as a build server to test recipes before I commit them to launchpad17:22
* bennabiy waves at glebihan 17:26
pulb1hi guys. got a question: if  i delete a translation from the import queue, will it be deleted in the import queue only or from launchpad as well?17:29
reedhi folks, I have a lot of spam submitted as bugs on a project, they all seem to be 'security' bugs, private and I cannot reassign them to null-void or do anything with them17:44
reedthey're annoying17:44
reedexample: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/133807217:44
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1338072 not found17:44
reedhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/133807117:44
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1338071 not found17:44
reedright... ubot5 got it right :)17:45
cjwatsonbennabiy: That's using a very large sledgehammer to crack a nut.  You can use bzr-builder locally to test recipes (https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/BzrBuilder), and you can use sbuild locally to test-build source packages (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild)17:47
* bennabiy likes big tools17:47
cjwatsonbennabiy: It is possible to set it up (https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC, https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally) but it's only worth it if you're actually developing Launchpad itself.17:47
bennabiycjwatson: point taken :)17:48
cjwatsonreed: They aren't on your project any more.  The state you describe is the way in which we hide spam bugs.17:48
reedcjwatson, I see them though17:48
cjwatsonreed: Possibly because you reassigned them to null.17:48
reedcjwatson, I see them individually and in the count17:48
cjwatsonContrary to your claim that you couldn't.17:48
reedcjwatson, I have done nothing to them, they show up as assigned to the community project, where they were filed17:49
reedlet me grab a screenshot17:49
cjwatsonreed: You aren't ~smaffuli?17:49
reedcjwatson, I am17:49
cjwatsonBoth bugs you listed currently only have bug tasks on null-and-void, not on openstack-community, and the activity log shows that you put them there.17:49
cjwatsonReload harder. :)17:50
cjwatsonI've marked the three bugs from that user as Invalid, though, to make it less likely that they'll show up anywhere.17:51
reedcjwatson, https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1frjx49fxzdlbl/Screenshot%20from%202014-07-30%2010%3A49%3A26.png17:52
ehooverdid something in the recipe system change/break in the past couple days? (bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.BzrCommandError: Invalid deb-version: {debversion}~daily-201407300231~ubuntu12.04.1: Invalid version string '{debversion}~daily-201407300231~ubuntu12.04.1')17:52
cjwatsonreed: Try https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/<bugnum> on each17:53
cjwatsonreed: Honestly, they show up in a sensible state and not on openstack-community for me17:53
cjwatsonehoover: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/135043017:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 1350430 in launchpad-buildd "{debupstream} not recognised by format 0.4" [Undecided,New]17:53
ehoovercjwatson: thanks17:53
cjwatsonehoover: we recently upgraded PPAs to an openstack/trusty-based system, so much newer version of bzr-builder17:54
cjwatsongenerally it seems to be an improvement but there are a couple of regressions like this17:54
ehoovercjwatson: thanks, i'll subscribe to the bug :)17:54
reedcjwatson, gah, i still see them https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/1338073 but not on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17:55
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1338073 not found17:55
cjwatsonguess I need to set up a local reproduction environment for this kind of thing17:55
reeddamn spammers17:55
cjwatsonreed: I can't see that one at all, and it's not one of the ones you listed earlier :)17:56
cjwatsonreed: try making it public and then I'll fix it up for you17:56
reedcjwatson, I told you there are ~5017:56
cjwatsonreed: you didn't, actually :)17:56
cjwatsonreed: if you could generally just leave these alone and/or report them rather than dealing with them yourself, then that's actually better for us ...17:57
reedcjwatson, :) ok, I'm telling you now: there are a lot of them, enough to be annoying... let me try to edit17:57
cjwatsonreed: the problem is that if you put them into a state where I can't see them, then I can't help to clean them up and suspend users and such17:57
reedcjwatson, I have done nothing to them17:57
cjwatsonI suspect you're marking them private before reassigning to null?17:57
cjwatsonsomebody is17:57
reeduhm17:57
reedthe spammer user is ~sksharma87217:59
cjwatsonyes, that user is suspended and all the bugs I can see from them are in the proper hidden state18:00
reedno, wrong, this is the spammer https://launchpad.net/~tantrikbaba80018:00
reedso they're hidden but not assigned to null-void18:00
dobeyif they're marked as security bugs then they're private by default probably18:00
cjwatsonditto, user suspended on 2014-07-06, all visible (to me) bugs in proper state18:00
reedsomething went wrong18:00
cjwatsonif you can see them, make them public and we can fix them18:00
cjwatsonI'm pretty certain that you will be able to make them public if you can see them18:01
reedcjwatson, let me try to make one bug public and I'll show you the error I get18:01
reedcheck now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/133807618:01
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1338076 not found18:01
cjwatsonnot public AFAICS18:01
dobeyindeed18:02
reedit reverted back to private18:02
dobeyas ubot5 so helpfully pointed out :)18:02
reedcheck again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/133807618:02
cjwatsonvery peculiar set of state transitions, but I've shunted that off to null now18:15
cjwatsonI wonder if this would be simplified if we had a "mark all user's bugs as spam" control on the account administration page where we suspend accounts18:16
cjwatsonwhich would mean LP could kill them all without having to (say) give members of ~launchpad access to everyone's security bugs, which I can't see going over too well18:19
dobeyit should would make things eaiser18:23
dobeyeasier18:23
reedcjwatson, that would make sense18:23
reedcjwatson, now I see what happened! When I try to assign one of those private bugs to dev-null project I get an error but the bug is effectively removed from my list18:27
reedexample: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/133807818:28
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1338078 not found18:28
reedI'm now going to assign it to dev-null18:28
reedError: Not Found \n\n Object: , name: u'1338078'18:29
reedbut the bug is removed from my list... which is good enough for me :)18:29
cjwatsonreed: yeah, you have to be a little careful, I've had to ask admins to undo things for me on a couple of occasions when doing that.  I think it's probably a bug that reassigning a private bug task such that you no longer have an access grant doesn't automatically give you a grant18:49
cjwatsonreed: in such cases I guess making it public first and then only privatising it as the last step is the right sequence18:50
reedcjwatson, thanks18:50
reednice, I cleaned up the bloody mess now18:51
reedwoot18:51
* cjwatson goes to invalidate everything18:52
cjwatsonunusually large number of bugs from a single user from this class of spammer18:52
cjwatson(done)18:56
mcpierceHi, all. I have a question about uploading packages for both trusty and precise to a PPA. Is this not possible? I tried this and my package for precise was rejected.20:25
mcpierceThe packages are versioned as 0.7-3trusty and 0.7-3precise, and both use the same source tarball.20:25
dobeyyou can only upload the source tarball once. rebuild the source package for the second upload to not include the full source (so it won't include the orig.tar.gz in the upload)20:26
mcpiercedobey: Is that without the -sa option?20:27
dobeyright, -sa means include all source in the upload20:29
mcpiercedobey: Hrm, I did a rebuild with "debuild -S -k[mykeyid]" and then dput ppa:qpid/released ../qpid-proton_0.7-3precise_source.changes -- it was rejected for hte same reason as before.20:30
dobeyis it actually the same source tarball? usually it only complains if you're trying to upload a source tarball that is different than the one that's already on the server, but it has the same name20:32
mcpiercedobey: I just cleaned up to make sure nothing untoward was in the directory and reran the debuild cmdline.20:32
mcpiercedobey: Yep. Just checked the md5 sum between my trusty and precise machines and it's the same _orig.tar.gz file on both.20:33
mcpiercedobey: What I'm seeing is: "File qpid-proton_0.7-3precise.debian.tar.gz already exists in Released Qpid packages for Debian, but uploaded version has different contents."20:34
dobeyyes20:34
dobeyso they are not the same file20:34
mcpiercedobey: I'm noting seeing any exisitng 0.7-3precise source there,t hough. THere's no precise package in the PPA.20:34
dobeythe source was uploaded though20:35
mcpiercedobey: How do I delete it?20:35
dobeyyou can't20:35
mcpiercedobey: Ugh. There was a previous push of 0.7-3precise, but I deleted it this morning.20:35
dobeywhy are you not using the proper upstream tarball for the orig.tar.gz?20:35
mcpiercedobey: Actually, this is the upstream tarball.20:35
* mcpierce verifies the MD5 sum.20:35
dobeythen why does it have a debian revision and ubuntu series name in the tarball?20:36
dobeyoh the .debian.tar.gz is what it's complaining about20:36
dobeynot the orig.tar.gz20:36
dobeyyou can't upload the same version twice20:36
dobeyyou need to bump the version20:36
dobeychange it to 0.7-4precise or something20:37
mcpiercedobey: Ugh, kk. I had hoped that, since I deleted the broken package that I could reuse the release.20:37
dobeyor no, you cannot upload the same version multiple times20:37
mcpiercedobey: kk, thanks.20:37
dobeyand you should put a ~ prior to the series name, like "0.7-4~precise" instead, so that version comparison will work better20:38
mcpiercedobey: kk thanks for that.20:38
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