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willcookemorning desktopers07:59
willcookepopey, replaced my palm rest this morning.  Nice new one with no crack in it now08:02
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willcooketkamppeter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule09:19
willcookeReminder:  Feature freeze for Utopic is coming up fast... 21st August09:29
willcookehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule09:29
* didrocks connected as long as we are in the train station ;)09:33
Laneyyou didn't run?09:33
didrocksLaney: ah, not needed, we are in the train09:35
Laneyah09:35
didrocksit justs that the train have stops…09:35
didrocksit's*09:35
Laneyno tethering?09:35
didrockswe are, but on my 3G connexion and you know… TGV can be fast ;)09:36
didrocksand seb128 is stealing my data!!!09:36
willcooke:)09:36
happyaronanyone using SFR, tethering just does not work...09:37
seb128bah, 3g in french train09:49
* Laney is DOSing the conference wifi to dist-upgrade to utopic09:50
* seb128 does the same to didrocks' 3G09:52
seb1281.5G to download, YES09:52
* didrocks cuts the connection09:52
didrocksNOW09:52
larsuLaney: ts ts ts09:52
didrockshey, we're still in Germany btw09:52
Laney19 mins ...09:52
didrocksback to France soon09:52
didrockshave been a long time09:52
larsudidrocks: finally you can get croissants au chocolat again!09:53
didrocksI don't know…09:53
didrocksI was promised to get some in Strasbourg09:53
didrocksthat didn't happen09:53
larsuya, too French09:54
didrocksso, I think this doesn't exist at all :)09:54
didrocksseb128 got one chance to proove me wrong09:54
didrockshe didn't take it09:54
seb128bah09:54
seb128well, afranke said they don't have them, I didn't want to risk asking in a bakery and get a no :p09:55
seb128didrocks would have been comforted in his wrong ideas09:55
didrockswhich prooves even more the point!09:55
didrocksactually :p09:55
seb128see09:55
willcookeseb128, did I miss anyone on my email?  I don't think I did, just want to certain10:12
mhr3Trevinho, ping?10:29
mhr3or andyrock?10:29
andyrockmhr3, pong10:30
mhr3andyrock, hey, we want to split out unity schema into a separate pkg10:30
mhr3andyrock, see any issues with that?10:30
mhr3cause it's sort of shared with u810:31
mhr3and we want to add some new u8 stuff10:31
andyrockit's ok for me... just double check with bregma10:32
mhr3bregma, ^^10:33
Trevinhomhr3: I think it's fine from my POV10:33
seb128willcooke, sorry, 3g is unstable in the train, yeah the list is complete ;-)10:39
willcookeseb128, cheers dude.10:39
darkxsthey didrocks10:50
mhr3seb128, could you toss me the link to the package migration rules?10:53
didrockshey darkxst!10:53
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didrockssorry, on the train with seb128 and the connection is not stable10:53
seb128mhr3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration10:53
darkxstdidrocks, do you know the right way to deal with rpath? see upstream https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733857?10:53
ubot5Gnome bug 733857 in General "rpath is being set on tracker libraries" [Normal,Needinfo]10:53
didrocksdarkxst: looking, one sec10:54
mhr3seb128, didn't mean that, the one which lists how to do breaks,replaces etc when like splitting pkgs etc10:54
darkxstdidrocks, is linking with --enable-new-dtags sufficient?10:54
seb128mhr3,10:55
seb128https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition10:55
mhr3seb128, that's the one, thanks! :)10:56
seb128mhr3, yw ;-)10:56
didrocksdarkxst: I used that at some point in Unity itself, but I remember one case it was not enough. Start with that anyway and the build system should support it. If it's not enough, just ping me tomorrow morning (I'll have a clearer mind AND a stable connection :))10:56
darkxstdidrocks, ok I will try that, enjoy your train ride ;)10:57
didrocksdarkxst: thanks a lot! :)10:57
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mhr3Trevinho, ehm, i can't build unity, is it known to not work with 4.9 or something?11:28
mhr3Trevinho, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7904005/11:30
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bregmamhr, see bug #135005211:44
ubot5bug 1350052 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity FTBFS - gcc 4.9" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135005211:44
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Sweetsha1kricotz: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libixion/+bug/1349859/comments/114:02
ubot5Launchpad bug 1349859 in libixion (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libixion (b-d of liborcus)" [Undecided,Incomplete]14:02
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seb128howdy desktopers14:05
willcookehey seb12814:05
seb128hey willcooke14:06
seb128how are things in desktop land today?14:06
seb128we are back on a stable internet14:06
willcookepretty quiet14:06
didrockshey willcooke14:07
willcookeo/14:07
ogra_seb128, how is the jetlag ?14:07
ogra_:)14:07
willcooke:D14:07
seb128ogra_, We should manage I think ;-)14:07
ogra_:)14:07
seb128kenvandine, hey14:11
willcookeoh, chrisccoulson qengho - I didnt hear back about Chrm. 35 - is that all in hand?14:12
kenvandinehey seb12814:12
willcooke(OT: seb128 didrocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ydv9Ef-99I)14:12
seb128kenvandine, who added those properties "to accountsservice"?14:13
kenvandineseb128, i don't know :)14:13
kenvandinei was just told they were there and i could enable it in settings14:13
kenvandineand sure enough, they were exposed on dbus :)14:13
kenvandinedidn't look deeper14:13
didrockswillcooke: I see what english people are doing to us :p14:13
kenvandinethey are annotated as "vendor"14:14
seb128kenvandine, they are not in d-feet here, but I'm on trusty/utopic mix, so I guess some depends needs to be updated14:14
kenvandinethey are for me14:14
didrockswillcooke: fortunately, there is doctor who, the it crowd, the office… to counter-balance all that :)14:14
kenvandineshows the annotation that they are vendor added14:14
willcookedidrocks, XD14:14
seb128kenvandine, right, I'm saying that something added those in utopic and you don't depends on it, just happens to have it installed14:15
* seb128 checks14:16
kenvandineok, so missing a depends14:16
seb128likely yes14:16
kenvandineseb128, i do see some of those are missing in the schema though14:17
kenvandinesilent-mode is there14:17
seb128kenvandine, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/0.0.2+14.10.20140708-0ubuntu114:17
kenvandinebut none of the vibrate ones14:17
seb128kenvandine, they got added in that version it seems14:18
seb128needs to update the depends?14:18
kenvandineoh... i see14:18
kenvandinesure14:18
seb128kenvandine, sorry, I did the review while travelling and didn't have internet to check where those were added then14:19
kenvandinefixed and pushed14:20
seb128kenvandine, thanks14:23
mdeslaurTrevinho: oh, it seems there's a test case now in bug 1345505, and it's caused by a regression in the latest unity update14:33
ubot5bug 1345505 in unity (Ubuntu) "Password typed to unlock the screen is sent to the Chrome window that was in focus" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134550514:33
Trevinhomdeslaur: I wasn't able to reproduce, but let me check with chrome14:34
didrocksbefore local apt cache for medium tests: Ran 14 tests in 464.690s14:35
mdeslaurTrevinho: cool. thanks14:35
didrockswith local cache: Ran 14 tests in 108.708s14:35
Sweetsharkhohum, this freedomsponsors thing is beginning to get interesting. 1800USD for LibreOffice task on offer alone.14:37
Sweetsharkricotz: just a reminder: because of http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21942/client-1308-rolling-libreoffice/ we are NOT doing backports of LibreOffice dependencies on trusty for 4.3. Instead, use internal versions.14:43
Sweetsharkricotz: we wont SRU LO deps, but we might want to SRU LO 4.3 and we need the ppa for testing that.14:43
Trevinhomdeslaur: ok, got it :/ I didn't using multimonitor instead... mhm14:44
mdeslaurTrevinho: ah, good. always easier when it's reproducible :)14:48
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willcookehi Sweetshark - how's the trip going?14:51
Sweetsharkwillcooke: leaving tomorrow ;)14:52
willcookeah!14:52
willcookeHappy trails14:52
Sweetsharkwillcooke: ... but managed to throw a bunch of work over the fence to seb128 before :>14:53
willcooke\o/14:53
willcookethe ol' hit and run14:53
didrockshey fginther! did you get any progress on this desktop machine (14.04 LTS desktop) where I can run my daily tests?14:53
willcookestone cold classic14:53
seb128Sweetshark, I received your email, didn't look at it yet14:53
seb128willcooke, did you get a reply from qengho or chrisccoulson on chromium? I went offline before when you asked and couldn't see if they replied14:54
Sweetsharkwillcooke: http://media.tumblr.com/7f94de2ed3b590dbf59d501041699d94/tumblr_inline_n67m5fYC3X1raprkq.gif <- hit and run like a boss14:54
willcookeseb128, not yet14:54
* willcooke pokes chrisccoulson qengho 14:54
willcookeSweetshark, ha!!!14:54
fgintherdidrocks, it's partway, I'll try to have it finished tomorrow14:56
didrocksfginther: excellent! keep me posted. Now that I have all the tests ready, I can't wait to see them broken everyday ;)14:57
didrocksfginther: so, the machine will be a new shiny 14.04 LTS everyday?14:57
didrocks(with Internet access)14:57
Sweetsharkwillcooke: for today, my plan is "survive LibreOffice 4.3.0 release"14:59
willcookeSweetshark, good luck! Let me know what I can do to help15:00
fgintherdidrocks, no, it's based on a VM snapshot, it's not going to be automatically updated to a daily image. Did I misunderstand what you needed?15:00
* Sweetshark realizes he never ever tried the fancy new animated 3D objects for presentations we have now.15:00
didrocksfginther: I guess if it's a VM snapshot, we can run apt-get dist-upgrade and reboot everyday before you hand it over to my jenkins jobs?15:01
ricotzSweetshark, i see, this might be require a more complete source package to have all needed deps around if needed15:01
ricotzSweetshark, e.g. boost15:01
Sweetsharkwillcooke: looking all good for now, jusr the usual communication and PR madness ...15:02
willcookeSweetshark, ack15:02
ricotzSweetshark, in case of 4.3.x boost 1.54 is still fine be fine though15:02
didrockspitti: jibel: hey, I would like to be able to run my medium tests as autopkgtests now that they are all offline. However, i'm using docker and a docker image then, is that supported?15:04
Sweetsharkricotz: yes. Actually, if upstream needs a new boost we shouldnt follow. Having C++ extensions using a different system boost than LibreOffice core is just asking for trouble,15:04
ricotzyeah15:05
pittididrocks: autopkgtest doesn't have a docker runner, but you may be able to use the generic ssh one?15:06
didrockspitti: hum, sorry, what do you mean by generic ssh one?15:06
pittididrocks: that mostly requires writing an "ssh setup script" which starts the docker container, sets up ssh, and returns the IP+login to adt-run15:06
pittididrocks: and an equivalent cleanp action to shut it down again15:07
pittididrocks: have a look at /usr/share/autopkgtest/ssh-setup/SKELETON15:07
fgintherdidrocks, the reboot adds some complexity, but I think this still can be made to work. Assuming no fire drills come up between now and tomorrow, I should still be able to have it ready15:07
didrockspitti: so, I would need another machine, having Internet connexion, on the same network, dedicated to that?15:07
didrocksfginther: that would be perfect, thanks a lot!15:07
pittididrocks: /usr/share/autopkgtest/ssh-setup/nova is an example for nova15:07
fgintherdidrocks, if I encounter a delay, I'll let you know15:08
pittididrocks: err, why?15:08
didrocksfginther: sure, thanks ;)15:08
pittididrocks: you'd run adt-run on your host/workstation, and communicate with the docker container over ssh15:08
didrockspitti: that's what my tests themselves are doing15:08
didrockseach test is:15:09
didrocks- starting a docker container, setup ssh into it15:09
didrocks- run some tests with that ssh connection15:09
pittiah15:09
didrocksnow, what I would like is to run those tests as autopkgtests15:09
pittididrocks: so I'm afraid I fail to understand where the problem is15:09
didrockspitti: I can just install and call "docker run" without any issue as adt tests?15:10
pittididrocks: we run autopkgtests in QEMU for x86, that should support running docker inside?15:10
didrocks(and those boxes have network connection to be able to download the images from the docker hub)15:10
pittididrocks: on armhf/ppc64el the tests run in LXC, that might go less well15:10
didrocksah, yeah, containers inside containers…15:11
didrocksso, it should work on x86, and they would be able to connect to docker hub?15:11
pittididrocks: but if x86 is sufficient for your needs, that shoudl work, yes15:11
pittididrocks: Add "Restrictions: isolation-machine" please, so that these will just get skipped with adt-virt-lxc15:11
didrockspitti: that sounds excellent. I'm surprised that we have some Internet connexion from those machines, but good to hear it's not a blocker :)15:12
didrocksand yeah, I'll add the flag to avoid adt-virt-lxc15:12
pittididrocks: to *.ubuntu.com and *.launchpad.net works; there's a proxy for other things, but I wouldn't rely on that too much15:12
didrockspitti: so, I can't download my docker image…15:13
pittididrocks: let me check whether we export the proxy15:13
didrocksthanks pitti ;)15:13
pittididrocks: no, we don't export it ATM; you could try and set it yourself, of course, but that's a bit dirty15:15
pittiexport http_proxy=http://squid.internal:312815:15
didrockspitti: yeah, I would prefer that to be officially supported if possible. I guess that can be a common use-case15:16
didrocksoh, we do have an alias?15:16
didrocksin that case, it's a little bit less dirty15:16
didrocksthanks a lot pitti! I guess it needs some experimentation now :)15:18
pittididrocks: yeah, you can test it locally, and once it works we can look into the proxy thing again15:18
didrockspitti: let's do that! thanks again15:18
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Trevinhomdeslaur: I've couple of ways to fix that... I'll let you know ASAP15:42
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seb128cyphermox, hey16:21
seb128cyphermox, do you know why starting system-settings on my desktop leads to nm disconnecting?16:21
margaTrevinho, I see you've taken the screenlock issue. Have you identified the problem already?16:22
margaI looked at several diffs but couldn't find the culprit16:23
Trevinhomarga: yes16:23
Trevinhomarga: it's mostly a race condition, blame X16:23
margaYeah, I expected it was a race condition16:24
Trevinhomarga: basically we try to regrab the screen when an ungrab is still ongoing...16:24
Trevinhoso, just an XFlush basically fixes it, but at this point I'm making the grab mechanism stronger16:24
margaTrevinho, ok. What would be the expectations regarding the release of a fix?16:24
margaI have a hoard of users aiming pitchforks at me :)16:25
Trevinhomarga: I think I can have that in 1hr max, then it can go through the security procedure16:25
margaTrevinho, oh, ok. I was asking an ETA with a unity of days, not hours :)16:26
margaThanks, I'll let you work then.16:26
Trevinhomarga: ;)16:27
Laneycreepy16:30
Laneygstreamer's testsuite uses the webcam16:30
Laneymakes the green led blink16:30
seb128lol16:33
seb128Laney, do you have an opinion on how to handle the gtk .symbols/mir not being enabled on all archs?16:36
Laneyarch=<arches>16:36
seb128either (optional) those symbols, or having by arch .symbols16:36
seb128oh, that works?16:36
Laneyya, see dpkg-gensymbols man page16:37
seb128danke16:37
seb128I like it!16:37
seb128Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7906262/ lgty?16:39
Laneyi don't see the rules change16:40
Laneythe rest is plausible16:40
seb128thanks16:40
seb128Laney, I'm build testing, but looking at the patch it seems the rules do "enable if requirement there, otherwise disable"16:40
seb128and there is no .install change16:41
SweetsharkLaney: whats the test name? test_silentchannel_nsafbicia?16:41
seb128let's see how that test build goes16:41
Laneylaney@iota> grep mir debian/rules                                                                                      ~/temp/gtk+3.0-3.12.2 --enable-mir-backend \16:41
Laneyimagine that formatted nicely16:41
* Sweetshark feels better about the sticker over his cam. Also he needs a new tinfoil het for this summer.16:42
LaneySweetshark: In that case it failed, so I'm glad :P16:42
seb128Laney, bah, indeed it fails and doesn't fallback to disable it (my test build just errored out)16:43
* seb128 adds if in rules16:43
LaneyI'd expect if you ask for it to be enabled then it should fail16:43
seb128makes sense I guess16:44
seb128I'm pondering letting it on auto mode16:44
seb128let place to change if the arch list change16:44
seb128but more likely to hit cases where it gets disabled by error16:44
Laneyyou can just DEB_CONFIGURE_FLAGS_shared += --enable-mir-backend inside an if16:44
Laneybetter if builds are reproducible and not dependent on the environment imho16:45
seb128yeah, fair enough16:45
* Laney is going in search of food16:45
Laneyttyl!16:45
seb128Laney, enjoy the evening!16:45
Laneymerci, you too!16:45
Laneynot too much cheesecake ...16:46
seb128haha16:46
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cyphermoxseb128: where? it doesn't do that for me17:55
cyphermoxseb128: which version of system-settings?17:55
Trevinhouff, today lp takes ages to genrate a diff/change stuff... -_-18:46
Trevinhomdeslaur, marga: btw the fix for that lockscreen issue is at https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/lockscreen-shield-regrab/+merge/22892718:47
mdeslaurTrevinho: do you have other unity updates planned soon?18:51
mdeslaurI'm wondering about just including that in the next SRU, or publishing a security update just for that18:51
Trevinhomdeslaur: we've a SRU planned, but I thought we might delay a little to include some other scaling fixes which are under review... And I guess that going through SRU is probably slower...18:52
Trevinhomdeslaur: so, if it's not a problem, I'd go with a security update18:52
mdeslaurTrevinho: ok, thanks18:52
mdeslaurIf only LP would generate a diff I can look at... :)18:59
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