=== kyrios is now known as KyriosBrastianos [01:10] question about updating to 14.04 [01:11] its going thru the update process and stops then quits [01:12] it says it fails to connect to one of the servers located at [01:12] W:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/dists/percise/partner/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.150 80] [01:12] any ideas on why it cant fetch said files? [01:12] or how to skip that step? [01:14] ten seconds? that might be a new level of impatience.. [01:30] Next time he should type "precise" more precisely. [01:30] nhaines: hehehe :) [01:31] Oh well, hopefully he finds help. Preferably in an Ubuntu desktop support channel. :) [01:33] I hope he noticed the typo and slunk off quietly. hehe. [01:34] I wouldn't count on it. :) But I'm tempted to test and see if that's an actual bug. [01:34] Did they spin out Ubuntu 12.04.5 images? [01:36] nhaines: not yet === jfelchne_ is now known as jfelchner === _salem is now known as salem_ === vying is now known as Guest13264 === Guest20720 is now known as dk [04:18] Tizen! Tizen! Tizen! === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:05] Got on here to read about the possibility of getting Touch on my Galaxy Note Pro 12.2, but it doesn't appear that it's on the target device list. === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:57] good morning [07:10] dholbach, good morning. I have a packaging related question :) [07:11] janimo, sure [07:11] dholbach, I had not uploaded a package in a long time so I am not sure what the latest method is to make sure only QAd thngs get in the archives [07:11] do I dput normally and things get automatcallly routed to proposed? [07:11] yes [07:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration happens after the upload [07:12] dholbach, ok thanks. Let's see if I still have my dput.cf :) [07:14] janimo, the default should just work [07:14] dholbach, indeed it does. cheers :) [07:14] :-) [07:15] * janimo just did debuild -S -sa and upload, so will wait the reject email to upload properly without orig tarball :) [07:15] hmm, accepted. ok [07:16] Tizen! Tizen! Tizen! [07:37] does anyone know how to get more verbose output from ubuntu-app-launch? [07:38] or where the relevant logs are? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:00] pitti, did you see selenes mail on the phone ML = (specifically the last paragraph) ... looks like we somehow try to run the desktop apport on the phone, any idea whats wrong here ? [08:02] mterry, did you mean lxc-android-config (instead of livecd-rootfs) ? yes, go ahead ... [08:02] ogra_, yes I did... :-/ Long day yesterday [08:02] heh, yeah [08:02] ogra_, we don't have a way to truly test the upgrade scenario, do we? I mean, we both fake-tested it, but just checking [08:03] no, testing the upgrade is impossible without building our own image ... [08:03] which takes more work than rolling back in case something is wrong [08:04] so just go for it :) [08:04] * mterry cowboys [08:10] Good morning all; happy Cheesecake Day! :-D [08:26] ogra_, hey, stupid question... do you know/think we could reduce the boot image size? it doesn't fit on flo's recovery partition any more, which means dual booting flo is impossible now [08:27] how much is it over ? [08:28] Elleo, hello [08:28] (if it is megabytes i fear there isnt anything we can do ) [08:45] ogra_: you mean https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg09240.html? [08:47] pitti, yeah [08:47] looks like apport tries to fire up the desktop UI [08:51] ogra_: no, that's not what it is, but I know what's up [08:51] ah, cool [08:52] ogra_: FYI, I fixed bug 1349579 yesterday [08:52] bug 1349579 in apport (Ubuntu) "whoopsie-upload-all uses an incorrect assumption regarding what to upload" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349579 [08:52] yay [08:52] ogra_: as bdmurray wants the hooks to run for whoopsie [08:52] yeah [08:52] ogra_: but the hook assumes that it always has an UI object; it needs to cope with UI being "None" (i. e. noninteractive) [08:52] ogra_: it's just cosmetical (crashing hook will be ignored), but I'll fix it [08:53] thanks [09:18] What are peoples opinion on using Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 4? - I've been reading up quite a bit the past few days. Always liked Ubuntu. I'm thinking of buying a Nexus 4 just to install Ubuntu Touch. [09:21] mandel: heta [09:21] mandel: heya* [09:24] Hwy [09:24] Elleo, so, I was up very late last night and I have something for you => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/content-disposition/+merge/228804 [09:24] Elleo, is not 100% RFC complaint but will cover most cases if not all [09:31] Elleo, can you take that for a spin and see if it does fix your issues, for example downloading images from gmail [09:47] mandel: or alternatively content-hub is unconfined if it takes that as the owner by that stage [09:48] Morning all [09:49] Elleo, there is a check if it is unconfined AND passed the destination [09:49] Elleo, here => !metadata().contains(Metadata::LOCAL_PATH_KEY) [09:49] mandel: ah, so only if the originating app wants to override the destination? [09:50] Elleo, correct, but that is just if the app is unconfined :) [09:50] mandel: does that play okay with the fact that content-hub changes the destination directory? [09:51] mandel: that happens after the download is created, but before it's started; but I'm not sure if that's different to the changes made via the metadata [09:51] Elleo, yes because the change of the file name is done on the finish and content-hub must change the destination before the start, you will see that I grap the filaname of the (bad) path and replace it with the one of the content-disposition [09:52] mandel: okay, great [09:52] Elleo, line 66 of the diff [09:52] Elleo, I also ignore any possible full path that the content-disposition might provide [09:53] yeah, that's good [09:55] ondra-, rsalveti the adb_usb.ini fix is now in utopic === mbm is now known as [mbm] [10:31] MacSlow: ping [10:31] nik90, hey Nekhelesh... what's up? [10:32] MacSlow: hey, you work on the snap decisions right? [10:32] nik90, yup [10:32] MacSlow: Is it possible it have a snap decision with only 1 button? [10:32] nik90, nope [10:33] nik90, a "one action" notification is an "interactive notification, where the whole notification-bubble is a button... [10:33] MacSlow: hmm, for our design spec at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g18895458d_00, we do not have the snooze function ready for RTM. As a result we want to only show "ok" rather than "Ok" and "Dismiss". [10:33] nik90: err, were you the one posting new design clock videos? [10:33] nik90, e.g. a notification about a incoming SMS uses such an interactive notification... when you tap that it'll bring you to the messaging app [10:34] nhaines: affirmative [10:34] MacSlow: is the implementation easy to change between snap and interactive notification? [10:34] nik90: I deeply miss the sunrise/sunset feature, but otherwise the new design implementation is beautiful and elegant. [10:34] nhaines: yes I read that in your email. I have already informed the designers about it :) [10:34] nik90: I know it's hard to take a pretty Photoshop mockup and turn that into code, so I just wanted to thank you (and the others by proxy). :) [10:35] Ooh yay. :) [10:35] nik90, there are examples for all types of supported notifiations in lp:unity-notifications/examples... have a look [10:35] ogra_: fixed in trunk, and followed up to the mail [10:35] nik90, the change is very simple [10:35] * ogra_ hugs pitti [10:35] nhaines: They have added it to their todo which we will be following up on after rtm [10:35] That's good to know! [10:35] MacSlow: ah ok..the indicator-datetime is the one which draws these notifications for the clock app. I didnt want to make life harder for charles [10:36] MacSlow: I will see if design allows this change just for rtm. [10:36] MacSlow: thnx [10:36] nik90, np yw [10:36] Frankly, from the last promoted image (was it r133? r137?) to the latest, the OS has made fantastic leaps. I'm very excited for it. :) [10:37] nhaines: yeah, it is shaping up quite nicely. olliver was saying we could expect more cool stuff in the dash before rtm in the weekly development videos [10:39] For a long time now, it's only been apps that have kept me from wanting to use Ubuntu all the time. :) The recent updates have really pushed that stunning design I expect from Canonical. [10:39] The code's been pretty decent for a while now. So great from the community. :) [10:40] Elleo, here are the debs => https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B5OC6S6xvZL_OU5jM3Q1YmVkMmc/edit?usp=sharing [10:40] I do know that if I spent 15 minutes testing out some new features, when I reboot back into Android I spent the next hour trying to edge swipe. :) [10:40] mandel: thanks [10:40] Elleo, js bot seems to be complaining about the symbols yet it should not [10:40] Laney: question: do i need to do anything further with https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/just-the-touch-settings/+merge/228317 ? [10:43] nhaines: yeah...I do try the edge swipe unintentionally on android [10:44] nik90: everyone I demonstrate the edge swipes to, they're always impressed. :) [10:45] :) [10:46] Now if we get all of the core apps to take advantage of the bottom edge, I will be selling Ubuntu phones every time I speak. [10:49] nhaines: will happen slowly..the bottom edge hasn't rolled into the SDK yet, so what you see are custom implementations which make it difficult for all app devs to take advantage of [10:50] nik90: yes, but if Canonical announces that this is the new killer feature, well, then they have to back it up. :) [10:50] At least with the core apps. [10:50] +1 [10:51] I bought the T-Mobile G1 sight unseen, 20 minutes after the press release a month before launch. I'm happy to be an early tester for tech I believe in. Late 2015, everything will be stunning. [10:51] But I'm crossing my fingers. Two months ago, Ubuntu looked a *lot* more primative than it does now. We'll see how it all turns out. :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:55] Chipaca: you can include it the landing with the consumer if you like [10:55] It goes through ci train [10:55] Laney: the 'needs fixing' by jenkins won't block that? [10:55] nope [10:55] cool [10:55] ok, will do! [10:56] Laney: thanks === clopez_ is now known as clopez [11:06] Hi, is there a Spotify app on ubuntu touch? - or a web app at least? [11:07] there is a webapp, yeah [11:08] OPSJono, ogra_: actually there is a native app by Elleo. It however requires spotify premium [11:09] nik90: also, it's rather hampered by lifecycle stuff at the moment, and hasn't been updated in a *ages* [11:09] if I ever have some free time I might make an unconfined version for people to sideload that talks to powerd or something [11:09] Yeah I have spotify premium anyway - I'm going to get a Nexus 4 this weekend and install Ubuntu touch on it. - I just wanted to make sure it had Spotify - so I can ditch my iPhone 5 :) => Thanks! [11:10] Elleo: but dont' we have the media-hub which fixes the lifecycle issues? [11:10] nik90: only for local files. [11:10] ah [11:10] nik90: not for spotify unfortunately, we don't have anything we can pass to media-hub from libspotify; to protect all their DRM stuff they just give you a proprietary library that spits out small chunks of raw audio data for the app to render [11:11] nhaines, media-hub also streams ... but cant authenticate afaik [11:11] (well, what Elleo said ... ) [11:13] Elleo, I have tested that version of udm (the content-disposition one) with image updates and it works correctly, I'll test the click scope and the app updates. At that point is a matter of you letting me know if it does the trick with the browser downloads [11:14] Elleo: So does the native spottily app work (functionally, offline playlists etc.. with premium) And by "hampered by lifecycle stuff" do you mean just the spottily app, or the entirety of Ubuntu Touch? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:16] OPSJono: not sure if it works on the latest images, haven't tried it in a while; but the life cycle issue for spotify is that it gets suspended when you switch apps or the phone goes to sleep, so it's not much use at the moment [11:16] Elleo: Ahh, thanks for the clarification - I'll be giving it a test either at the weekend or at some point during next week [11:17] OPSJono: okay, if you run into problems let me know; I really need to update the UT version to include a bunch of bug fixes I made on sailfish, but I've been a bit swamped recently [11:17] mandel: okay, will give it a test in a minute, just setting some other stuff compiling [11:18] Elleo: Will do! Cheers :) === tvoss is now known as tvoss|lunch [11:26] Elleo: i would love an unconfined version of your app... :D [11:29] mandel: not getting filenames based on the content-disposition in my tests; both gmail and this simple example don't seem to work: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/contentdisposition [11:30] popey: yeah, it's been something I've been meaning to put together for ages; need to dig into the powerd stuff though [11:32] Elleo, can you pass me the logs from udm? [11:32] mandel: sure, just a sec [11:33] mandel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7904024/ [11:37] mandel: When receiving an MMS with a picture attached, is it expected to see an "Unknown Download" in the Transfers view? I can spot several problems related to that ... [11:37] Elleo, let me build another version with better logging [11:37] mandel: okay [11:39] mandel: 1. that "unknown download" line confuses the user 2. I have seen weird download percentages, just like bug 1348162 for email attachments 3. when pausing and resuming the download, nuntium is not happy (have even seen it panic once) [11:39] bug 1348162 in indicator-transfer (Ubuntu) "Indicator label Unknown download and went over 100% " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348162 [11:39] piiramar, hmm weird, but I can't look at it right now [11:40] mandel: ok, nothing urgent, I'll report a bug so I don't forget it myself ;-) [11:40] piiramar, please do, should be an easy fix [11:50] mandel: reported as bug 1350307 [11:50] bug 1350307 in indicator-transfer (Ubuntu) ""Transfers" view broken for MMS downloads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350307 [11:50] thx === psivaa is now known as psivaa-lunch [12:06] jdstrand: hey. just wanted to ask about this scope cache directory thing [12:07] am I right in understanding that we're going to modify the security profile to allow scopes to create their cache directory in ~/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/… ? [12:07] or have I got the wrong end of the stick there? [12:07] pete-woods: hey, scopes can already create ~/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/ === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:07] oh [12:07] pete-woods: what they can't create is ~/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/ [12:08] (and we don't want them to be able to do so) [12:08] jdstrand: just because I tried: aa-exec -p com.ubuntu.vimeo_vimeo_1.0.0 mkdir -- ~/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/com.ubuntu.vimeo/ [12:08] and got mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/home/pete/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/com.ubuntu.vimeo/’: Permission denied [12:09] (and the leaf-net dir already exists) [12:10] pete-woods: can you paste /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_com.ubuntu.vimeo_vimeo_1.0.0 [12:11] jdstrand: sure [12:11] pete-woods: also, what is the output of 'ls -ld /home/pete/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/' [12:11] jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7904303/ [12:12] pete@pete:~/src/unity-scope-vimeo/trunk$ ls -ld /home/pete/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/ [12:12] drwxrwxr-x 2 pete pete 4096 Jul 30 13:00 /home/pete/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/ [12:13] pete-woods: what is the output of 'grep DEN /var/log/syslog' at the time of the denial? [12:14] jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7904318/ [12:14] * pete-woods no idea what mask c is [12:15] create [12:15] you need 'w' for that [12:15] ah, obvious when you think about it [12:16] did you change the profile and forget to load it into the kernel? [12:17] jdstrand: I have no idea even how to load it into the kernel [12:17] this is all being done by click [12:17] jdstrand: everything else about the profile seems to work [12:17] e.g. actually connecting to the scope server [12:18] ogra_: where should kernel PM suspend type bugs go? [12:18] pete-woods: let me try it here [12:18] popey, hmm, either the kernel itself, android or upower [12:18] jdstrand: you want the click package? [12:18] hmm [12:18] popey, whats the issue ? [12:18] pete-woods: (incidentally, sudo apparmor_parser -r /path/to/profile) [12:18] ogra_: bug 1342351 [12:18] bug 1342351 in Ubuntu Music App "Music Player won't advance to next song if screen is blank and device is unplugged" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342351 [12:19] pete-woods: not yet [12:19] multi-second delay between one track and the next [12:19] I see a lot of kernel spam in syslog related to pm suspend stuff [12:19] popey, yeah, i noticed that too ... i thought i had ripped my CDs wrongly :P [12:19] looks less like a music app bug, and more some problem with suspend / wakelocks [12:19] heh [12:19] good. [12:19] popey, start with media-hub [12:19] kk [12:19] thanks [12:20] (most likely not it but that should give us the right path to track it to the right thing ) [12:20] jdstrand: Warning from /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_com.ubuntu.vimeo_vimeo_1.0.0 (/var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_com.ubuntu.vimeo_vimeo_1.0.0 line 113): Character - was quoted unnecessarily, dropped preceding quote ('\') character [12:21] pete-woods: oh duh [12:21] jdstrand: suspend bugs belong to the running kernel (i. e. the android one on touch, "linux" on desktop) [12:21] owner @{HOME}/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/@{APP_PKGNAME}/ r, [12:21] pete-woods: there is no 'w' on the directory! :) [12:21] pitti: ?? [12:21] jdstrand: on the desktop we can apply quirks to pm-utils if necessary, but this has long been obsolete, and shouldn't count as primary way of fixing them [12:21] jdstrand: erk, sorry, mis-read scrollback [12:22] I don't know what you are talking about :) [12:22] popey: ^ answer about suspend bugs [12:22] hehe [12:22] pitti: i dont actually know if it's a suspend issue, just seeing a lot of suspend spam in syslog [12:22] jdstrand: does this mean you can easily roll out a fix to the template? :) [12:22] pete-woods: I'll fix it today [12:22] pete-woods: yes, it is a simple bug. sorry [12:23] jdstrand: woot! you'll make a lot of people happy [12:23] * cwayne will be happy [12:23] jdstrand: it's the trouble with declarative programming, writing tests for it is hard [12:24] I guess you'd need a test that you ran under a easyprof generated scope profile, that tried to mkdir ~/.local/..... [12:24] we have those kinds of tests [12:24] but not for every rule in a profile [12:24] I can add it to make sure it doesn't regress [12:25] well that's up to you, as it's your codebase [12:27] just glad you spotted it :) === psivaa-lunch is now known as psivaa [12:54] any news on when ubuntu phone comes out? Is it more closer to fall or winter? [12:54] derek-g: asking every day doesn't make it happen faster [12:54] ☻ [12:54] soon [12:55] :) [12:55] popey, im still gonna === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Ubuntu Touch Support & Discussion | Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Installing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bugs filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/18xvTAA | phablet-flash is deprecated, use ubuntu-device-flash | @derek- [12:55] dammit === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Ubuntu Touch Support & Discussion | Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Installing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bugs filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/18xvTAA | phablet-flash is deprecated, use ubuntu-device-flash | "soon" [12:55] lol [12:55] there, that'll do. [12:56] if we release it too early, this might happen:- http://gifmg.com/i/i6d140f07cOFWGm [12:56] derek-g, you know the general ubuntu rule for such questions, right ? [12:56] every time someone asks it gets delayed by 1h [12:58] popey, that seems like a near-success?:) [12:58] heh === _salem is now known as salem_ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:13] Saviq, would you know where I could file a bug for the name of the app not being localized in its splash screen? [13:15] ogra_, any news on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1316978 ? [13:15] Launchpad bug 1316978 in ubuntu-touch-session (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-touch-session needs to be able to start even if the homedir is filled to 100%" [Critical,Confirmed] [13:15] dpm, that'd be unity8, Gerry is working on that [13:15] ogra_, I'm getting another round of reminders that space is tight by our testers. When things get very tight, I believe we're still borked by this bug [13:15] john-mcaleely, still on my list, no worries ... i was busy with dev-mode and now i'm looking at other HW stuff ... i'll definitely come back to it [13:16] it is one of my highest prio tasks on my TODO [13:16] ogra_, noted. I'll send people your way :-) [13:16] do that ;) [13:17] john-mcaleely, if the HW i'm looking at atm wouldnt miss *all the work we did for mako over the last months* .... it woulld surely be easier :P [13:18] ogra_, I'm sure [13:18] :) [13:21] mardy: hi. did you get my e-mail? === tvoss|lunch is now known as tvoss === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods|lunch === pete-woods|lunch is now known as pete-woods === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods|lunch [13:53] thanks Saviq [13:55] mandel: hi. just checking to see if you made any progress on LP: #1341685 ? [13:55] Launchpad bug 1341685 in ubuntu-download-manager "When unconstrained, udm sometimes downloads files to wrong location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341685 [13:56] barry, sorry I had to focus on the position service and will be back to udm asap [13:56] barry, atm I have to make choices.. :-/ [13:58] mandel: ack. so far, i'm hoping that this only affects the tests, but now that i think s-i 2.3.1 is in a promoted image, i'll keep an eye out to see if it affects anyone in the real world. my guess is that it won't at least until the *next* promoted image (so there's something to upgrade to). still, in all my physical testing, i didn't run into it, so again, i hope it's just affecting the test suite. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:00] help pls [14:01] it possible to install ubuntu touch on hp slate 7 tablet [14:01] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install if someone from the community did that already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [14:04] barry, I'll do my best to keep an eye [14:05] Chipaca, if an app triggers a notification of type vibration and nothing else, how can you tell what app it was? [14:05] kll: my tablet can't recognize, i'm using 14.04 [14:06] mpt: if the app is relying solely on vibration, presumably it's using vibration patterns that are easily recognisable [14:07] i'll use adb devices to see what devices are connected [14:17] Chipaca, same for sound, I guess [14:17] mpt: pretty much, yes [14:18] mpt: on android there's an app that you know without looking at your phone that it's a message from it, because it uses a single short vibration and sound that is quite effective at that [14:18] fwiw [14:21] Elleo, issue fixed, I screwed up a small check [14:21] mandel: ah, cool [14:22] Elleo, who else can we ping to test it? the media people were interested, right? [14:22] bfiller, ^^ [14:23] mandel: thanks, this is the filename thing for downloads right? ahayzen and the music-app guys would be interested in testing [14:24] nik90: yo [14:24] bfiller, correct, is the content-disposition fix [14:24] bfiller, would be nice to test it and if everything works in most cases we should be ok to go [14:25] Chipaca, but still a use case for the notification settings will be “something is making my phone vibrate and I don’t know what it is” [14:25] nik90: i am not sure why the the system time & the clock time are different [14:25] mandel: do you have some debs I could play with? I can check with the gmail app at least [14:25] Elleo, I'm building a package for you to confirm it works (It did work with your webs test file) [14:25] mandel: ah great, thanks :) [14:26] mpt: hmm... possibly? Or "why am i not getting notifications for X" i guess, too. [14:26] Chipaca, yeah, it needs to cover both, which is the awkward things [14:27] *thing. I.e. allow sorting by app (“what can app X do?”) and by type (at least for “what can make sounds?” and “what can make vibrations?”) [14:27] any date indicator dev here ? [14:28] daker, charles but he is away [14:29] pmcgowan: ok, because i am seeing an issue with the time on differente side(indicator, clock, u-s-s and greeter) [14:34] Chipaca, since time is short, maybe for this version we should let every app have Launcher badges, and have the single list with one switch per app covering everything else [14:34] Chipaca, then for the next version we can control individual things for individual apps [14:35] daker, ping [14:35] daker, what's the time issue you're seeing? [14:36] charles: hi, let me explain [14:37] charles: yesterday their was a major issue with time, where they changed the time on GSM network from GMT to GMT+1(DST) by mistake [14:38] charles: now the clock & the u-s-s shows the correct time(with GMT+1) but the time indicator & the greeter still shows the GMT time [14:38] mpt: you know launcher badges only appear if the app launcher is on there, yes? [14:38] Chipaca, on where? [14:40] mpt: when you say "launcher badges" you mean the counter on an emblem on the launcher? [14:40] daker, hmm [14:40] mpt: that's the only thing we have that matches "launcher badges" even closely :) [14:40] Chipaca, oh cripes, do we still have that silliness where apps don’t have badges inside the Dash? [14:40] charles: screenshot coming [14:40] daker, does the indicator time keep updating every minute, but just shows the time 1 hour off from what it should be? [14:40] charles: yes [14:40] mpt: yes, yes we do. And the only badges on the launcher itself are ones with counters. [14:41] @#%! [14:41] mpt: Error: "#%!" is not a valid command. [14:41] meetingology, no, it’s a sign of exasperation [14:41] mpt: Error: "no," is not a valid command. [14:41] daker, crazy. yes, that would be a bug for me [14:41] daker, could you file a ticket in launchpad with the info, so that it can get tracked? [14:42] mpt: sorry :-( [14:43] It’s almost as if the Launcher and the Dash are implemented using different toolkits… [14:43] charles: http://i.imgur.com/3gJox5k.png [14:43] daker, thank you [14:44] charles: u-s-s & clock 15:42 & indicator & greeter 14:42 [14:44] daker: and which one is the correct time? [14:44] daker: 15:42 or 14:42? [14:44] Chipaca, anyway, all the more reason for the settings not to claim to control badges, if the badges don’t work most of the time anyway [14:45] u-s-s & clock are correct if we count the TZ change(which was a mistake by the operator) [14:46] daker, how can I reproduce this bug? Is there a way for the phone user to trigger this too? [14:47] charles: hey. so indicator doesn't show the alarm, but it totally went off this morning anyway. but i left that phone in my office, so i didn't get up to turn it off, and it just kept going for like 30 minutes straight or something. [14:47] charles: i am not sure, but this happen when the operator changed the timezone over the GSM network [14:48] charles: phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ date [14:48] mercredi 30 juillet 2014, 15:48:08 (UTC+0100) [14:48] dobey, that's even stranger... that means indicator-datetime is aware of the alarm, but it's not getting shown for some reason [14:49] dobey, any privacy issues with mailing me your tasks.ics? [14:49] daker: if you cat the contents of /etc/timezone, which does it show -- the one being used by indicator and greeter, or the one shown by u-s-s and clock? [14:50] seb128, can you give a final approval to https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/api_v1/+merge/227948 [14:51] charles: yes it says Africa/Casablanca [14:52] daker: can you give me the name of a big city where you live, I want to try with the new clock app [14:52] charles: Casablanca [14:52] nik90: for you [14:52] daker: with the new clock app it reads 14:52 [14:53] daker: google also shows 14:52 [14:53] kenvandine, done [14:53] seb128, thx [14:53] nik90: yes it's correct if we don't count the TZ changed made by mistake by the operator [14:53] i'll prepare branches for the 3 rdepends to land with it [14:54] daker: can you restart your phone and check if u-s-s still shows 15:42 instead of 14:42? [14:54] charles: no, the only thing in it is that one alarm, i can even pastebin it [14:55] nik90: the issue is that after this mistake u-s-s & clock shows the time with TZ change while the time-indicator & the greeter still shows the time without the TZ change, so something is wrong somewhere [14:55] nik90: http://i.imgur.com/3gJox5k.png [14:56] dobey, if you go into phablet-shell and "restart indicator-datetime", does the alarm show up? [14:56] daker: yeah I saw [14:56] charles: nope (and i installed a newer image this morning, so it rebooted since) [14:57] dobey, cool, so the silver lining is we have a good test case there [14:57] charles: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7905538/ [14:57] dobey, yes please pastebin it and I'll test here [14:57] nik90: i'll try to reboot [14:58] daker: ok. let see if that changes things [14:58] dobey, this is the n5 problem you were mentioning before, right? Is this showing the same behavior of the menuitem shows up on the n4 but not on the n5? [14:58] charles: yes. the alarm doesn't show up in the indicator menu, and the clock icon doesn't show up on the top panel, on the n5 [14:59] seb128, although i guess they can land anytime, since it still has the provides [14:59] i won't bother trying to squeeze them all into the same silo [15:00] nik90: same thing :) [15:02] daker: hmm :/ [15:02] charles: the operation is called NITZ, right ? [15:02] daker: can you install clock reboot from the ubuntu touch stores and find out what time it is showing [15:03] if it is not too much hasse [15:03] hassle* [15:03] nik90: same time GMT+1 (16:03) [15:04] nik90: well u-s-s & both clock apps display the correct time(with the TZ changed which is GMT+1) [15:05] kenvandine, do you have versionned depends in the rdepends? [15:05] nope [15:05] just for the old package name [15:06] cjwatson, there's a couple of click QA issues that need to be taken care of if you have the time. neither of them urgent though [15:06] nik90: with the correct time i mean it count the TZ change, even if the time is not correct [15:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity-webapps-qml/content1/+merge/228874 [15:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/address-book-app/content1/+merge/228873 [15:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/content1/+merge/228872 [15:06] ralsina, hey [15:06] cjwatson, first is i'd like to get the test plan finalised, but there's a todo left in it, which needs to be addressed [15:06] seb128, if you want to give them an ack :) [15:07] hello seb128 [15:07] * nik90 is confused :P [15:07] ralsina, to see comments from previous revision on the mr, you can select the rev in the combo box [15:07] seb128: ok, that makes sense :-) [15:07] cjwatson, second is that coverage seems to have dropped a few points. do you know why? was there a chunk of code landed without unit tests? [15:07] not afaik [15:08] brendand: my concern about the test plan stuff in the last QA report I read was that it included the idea that we should be "improving manual test coverage" or some such [15:08] which I fundamentally disagree with, the manual test plan should be as short as possible :) [15:08] kenvandine, k, approved what I could (I don't have rights on the first one) [15:08] ok [15:08] i'm not going to put them all in the same silo though, that could end up taking ages :) [15:09] brendand: I don't see the drop in the coverage graph on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/click-devel-utopic-amd64-ci/ - where are you seeing it? [15:10] brendand: in fact the very last commit on lp:click/devel is that one to improve unit tests - we haven't landed anything for a while [15:10] cjwatson, the coverage dashboard is really confusing. here's a build exhibiting the lower figure: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/click-utopic-amd64-ci/10/? [15:10] oh, no, there's one more I missed, but it has test coverage [15:11] brendand: that's on lp:click, we haven't landed the improved tests from lp:click/devel on lp:click yet [15:11]