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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.06:44
mappsmorning06:44
daftykinso/06:45
brobostigonmorning mapps and daftykins06:46
diddledanallo06:47
daftykinsah a wild dan of diddle06:47
Myrttiyaaayyy no water.06:47
mappsmorning06:48
mapps6 January 201506:48
mappsLondon Gatwick06:48
mappsto Moscow Domodedovo06:48
mappsDep 07:00 - Arr 14:5006:48
mappsFlight EZY840106:48
mapps1 Adult06:48
mapps1 x £52.9906:48
mapps:P06:48
mappsall booked06:48
mappsnext part get the visa06:48
daftykins:O06:49
daftykinsaudio seems to be working on this laptop each boot i make it do now :D06:51
daftykinslets try it again06:51
daftykinsooh there's the tell tale power off06:52
daftykinsyep and it's gone06:53
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Cheesecake Day! :-D08:10
daftykins!08:10
daftykinsnow that is a day i am proud to celebrate, more so than milk chocolate day perhaps08:11
mapps<mapps> can get eveything from china08:12
mapps<myordo> i dont understand08:12
mappssilly russians08:12
mappsi went to ubuntu-ru;p08:12
daftykinsand spoke english!? you devil08:14
mappsi know08:15
mappsim awful08:15
foobarrymapps: does it fly over ukraine?08:17
Myrttifair question08:18
daftykinsare you guys serious08:18
daftykinshow bad is your geography :P08:18
foobarryit doesn't08:19
foobarrybut it could do08:19
mappsfoobarry nie08:19
foobarryit takes a wide berth north over dnmark08:19
foobarryi've flown to russia before08:19
mappswouldt care if it did tbh08:19
foobarryukraine is a distinct possibility08:20
mappsif somethings ginna happen it will happen08:20
mappsi cant stop it08:20
foobarrysure but i don't go playing chicken in the road08:20
mappsyea08:20
daftykinspoor Malaysia Airlines :( i wonder what they're choosing as a new name08:21
mappsbut 99% of flights are ok08:21
mappsyep08:21
mappssad eh08:21
daftykinsi had a look at their share price yesterday08:21
mappsnothing means anything ...all thrown away so quickly08:21
foobarrymapps: what will u be doing in russia08:24
mappsnot sure08:24
foobarryoh08:25
mappsbut its different bermondsey eh:P08:25
foobarryyes sort of08:25
mapps:D08:25
foobarrystill high rise blocks08:25
mappshahaha08:25
foobarryand morozhenoe08:25
daftykinsyou two are using very confusing words08:25
mappshow do you know bermondsey?08:25
foobarrywent to a party ther once08:25
mappscearly do by your last response08:26
mappsaha08:26
mappslovely place eh08:26
mapps;)08:26
foobarrywas better than the party in mile end that we didn't witness a mugging at knife point08:26
mappshahaha08:26
mappsmile end08:26
mappslol08:26
foobarrythe architect has sent his drawings to the council \o/08:27
foobarrytime to engage the builders08:27
mappshahahahaha08:28
daftykinscareful, they're a dangerous sort08:28
mappsbloody didnt kniw someone would know bermondsey08:28
mappssaid too much;p08:28
foobarryi never go south of river. it was an accident08:30
mappshahaha08:30
foobarryhmm handbrake isn't reading this dvd08:31
foobarrywhich is clean08:31
mappsyou live in like chelsea?08:31
mappsus poor folks08:31
mappsnot good enough08:31
mapps:)08:31
foobarryno, just north london blood08:31
mappsoh08:32
mappsso still too good for us lot08:32
mapps:D08:32
daftykinsfoobarry: must be fun protection once again08:33
foobarrynah,m its a BBC dvd08:33
foobarrythere is some strange schorching on the edge08:34
foobarryhadn't noticed08:34
popeyinner edge or outer edge?08:37
foobarryouter08:38
mappsive gotta go sleep in a minute08:39
foobarrygonna see if it plays in vlc after this disc is done08:39
foobarryhandbrake want sto scan whole dvd, dunno which chapters need rippage though08:39
daftykinsBBC are actually pretty good at protection too08:39
daftykinsfind a windows machine and crack out DVD decrypter \o/08:40
foobarryits a defect i'm sure08:40
foobarryis there even such a thing as protection?08:40
foobarryif vlc can read it then so can handbrake08:40
mappsdamnit08:40
mappsi will try harder08:40
mappsdrinking about 25-30pints a week still08:41
mappsand smoking a pack a day08:41
mappsARGH08:41
daftykinsdamn it mapps i said no touching the Dinghy - http://i.imgur.com/8fPvOas.gif08:41
mapps:(08:41
foobarrywhen do you drink?08:42
mappseveryday?08:42
foobarrywhat time of day?08:42
daftykinsfoobarry: i didn't make it up about there being copy protection...08:42
mapps2/3am+08:42
foobarryeven one less pint a day is doable08:42
mappscourse it is08:43
foobarrywhen i was a student i drank 21 pints a week08:43
mappsbut  i figure im gonna bloody drop dead some day aint i08:43
foobarrysmall lifestyle changes can make big difference08:43
mappscant keep smoking and drinking and be ok :)08:43
foobarryso getting under 20pts is achievable aim08:44
mappsyea08:44
mappsunlikely08:44
mappsbut course i 'could'08:44
foobarryi dunno, its not unrealistic08:44
mappsi could also quit smoking;p08:45
foobarrythe last pint is never as enjoyable as the first anyway08:45
foobarrye-cigs?08:45
mappsnah08:45
mappsi smoke marlboro lights08:45
mappsused to smoke rollies08:45
mappsgot fedup rolling08:45
daftykinstried the electronic jobs?08:48
daftykinscould at least make things a bit healthier08:48
mappsnah08:48
mappswho cares at this point08:48
mappsive smoked for so long08:48
mapps:)08:48
foobarrythats not true08:49
foobarrythe benefits of stopping are realised v quickly,08:49
foobarryand within a couple of years you regain a huge benefit08:49
mappsyea but i aint gonna stop am i:P08:49
foobarryall is not lost08:49
mappsso gotta try and justify it08:49
daftykinsno, but you cut out all the other crap you're putting into your lungs08:50
mappsive been smoking for bloody years mate08:51
daftykinshaha well nothing is gonna change with this viewpoint ;)08:51
mapps:D08:52
mappsidd never recomend anyone smokes;p08:52
foobarryeven stopping at age 60 adds 3 yrs to your life :-|08:53
mappsmakes me laugh when i see these young kids08:53
diploHow old are you mapps ?08:53
daftykinsto 63 ;)08:53
mappsdesperate for a cigarette08:53
mapps31 diplo08:53
foobarry"Men who quit smoking by 30 add 10 years to their life"08:53
mappsah well thats me done08:53
mappsim over 30;p08:53
diploMy grandad smoked from 16 till he was 86, didn't have cancer, died from giving up fags :)08:53
daftykinsi knew he was gnna say that XD08:53
diploThey say if you quit now you are more likely to get the worst of it out of your system08:54
mappsmy mum died from smoking..08:54
mappsbut08:54
mappsshe smoked about 30/day08:54
foobarryi installed ubuntu on a strangers laptop yesterday \o/08:55
Myrttiwhee!08:55
foobarrythey were trying to install and had a problem08:55
foobarryunfortuantely the installer isn't very intuitive when windows has used 4 partitions on the disk already08:56
foobarryafter we got over that it was plain sailing08:57
mappsthats why i love living on my own;p can smoke at my desk08:58
Myrttithis smoking discussion makes my skin crawl09:00
foobarrywhen i was six i put a cig butt to my mouth that my friend had found at the kerb :S , but that's the closest i ever got09:01
foobarryother ppls smoke gives me terible discomfort in summer due to hayefever09:02
foobarryeven the odd molecule from 50 yds away09:02
daftykinsjust got the new DVD drive from ebay for this laptop i'm messing with09:20
daftykinsno go, no boot from CD or DVD, no reading discs... looks like no device detected either09:21
funkyHatThe best time to start smoking is about 6 months before you buy your pension annuity09:32
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davmor2Morning all09:48
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Myrttitodays newly learnt English word: BOWSER. The term bowser is used by water companies in the United Kingdom to refer to mobile water tanks deployed to distribute fresh water in emergency situations where the normal system of piped distribution has broken down or is insufficient.10:36
foobarrya good word10:36
foobarrydo you want some other nice words10:37
foobarryAcersecomic10:38
foobarrywhich could be Myrtti10:38
foobarryjudging by her v long hair when i saw her once10:39
Myrttifoobarry: I'm not too enthusiastic of having to learn that word, to be honest10:39
Myrtti(Bowser, that is)10:40
foobarrybowser is a great sounding word10:40
foobarryalso, mario10:40
Myrttihttps://twitter.com/myrtti/status/49441715753125068910:41
MyrttiI might have been a bit peeved10:41
foobarryoh, you had nothing to drink except from the bowser?10:43
Myrttiwell fortunately the kettle did have a bit of water, as did the Brita jug10:43
foobarryyou have been performing jettetura towards the water company10:44
Myrttibut I couldn't really wash my coffee pot or have a shower.10:44
foobarryjettatura*10:44
MyrttiWhy bother having ALERT pages if you don't actually have useful information on them10:45
foobarrytell my IT dept that10:46
Myrttithe bit I'm most peeved at is that it HAD information10:46
Myrttithen it vanished10:46
Myrttiwell, not all of it, but the bit I was interested10:46
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foobarrycheckout staff who dump your ready meal in the bag upside down :@@@11:58
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popeyoh balls. laptop I ordered is being delivered by hermes13:26
MartijnVdSare they bad/13:27
diddledanis he unreliable?13:27
diddledanI figure that means the planet-express crew?13:27
davmor2diddledan: he visits hades to often for popey's liking13:27
MartijnVdSdavmor2: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100111195411/en.futurama/images/b/b4/250px-Hermes_conrad.png13:28
directhex_hermes is a subcontracted carrier, i.e. the delivery is done by normal people as a part-time job13:28
directhex_so the service you receive is super variable13:28
popeyyeah13:29
popeywe ordered something "next day" from Next, came 4 days later via hermes, bloke couldn't give a toss13:29
foobarrya part on wifey's spinning wheel got broken via courier yesterday by rought treatment. she was mildly gutted to say the least13:30
Myrttigah Guardian videos take forever to load13:30
Myrttifoobarry: :-(13:31
foobarryjust been watching http://sysadmincasts.com/episodes/31-introduction-to-docker a good whistelstop tour for busy people13:31
foobarryMyrtti: it was the brake peg. had been snapped and was hanging loose13:32
Myrttiaw :-|13:32
Myrttiwhere'd she get it from?13:33
foobarryi had to screw a screw into the remainder of the peg13:33
foobarryand pukll the broken bit out. was scary13:33
popeyscrews!13:33
foobarrya nice lady from spinwise.co.uk13:33
popeyhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/30/buzzgasm_screws/13:33
foobarryshe will send a new peg, probably at her own cost, i don't know if she will get anything out of the courier company13:33
MartijnVdSpopey: http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/2c4sut/ive_had_the_joy_of_working_for_hermes/13:39
popeynice13:48
MyrttiDPD etc. have timed slots. If they turn up to your door 5 minutes before their predicted arrival, they'll have to wait until they can sign the package off13:55
MyrttiI once asked them if they'd want a drink while waiting13:56
diddledanMyrtti: vodka?14:00
Myrttitea14:00
diddledanaah14:00
Myrttiit was one of the early summer heatwave days14:01
Myrttiwell, warm enough anyway14:01
foobarryanyone used/ing vagrant?14:10
foobarrypeople seem to use it with virtualbox which gives me a sour taste14:12
foobarrytalktalk mobile are provided by vodafone..hmm.14:34
foobarrycurrently offering monthly deal for £3.75 for 600MB data + voice+ textx14:35
awilkinsvodafone are tax dodging swine15:07
awilkinsAnd also screwed me out of about £200 of data charges when I spent 10 minutes explaining to the sales rep that I needed a plan with very few minutes but inclusive data15:07
awilkinsSo I will never ever give them money again or encourage people to do so15:08
foobarrywhich mobile commpanies pay tax?15:08
awilkinsDunno15:08
foobarryo2 i suppose15:08
foobarrythe others are foreign owned15:08
awilkinsBut we know that voda hasn't paid £6B of tax and, well, should be counted as British because it used to be a part of BT15:08
foobarryagree15:08
awilkinsThere should be a dotheypaytheirtaxes.com15:09
awilkinsI thought a good plugin for the barcode reader on your phone would be something that ran a barcode search and then did a graph query in some kind of knowledge base of the companies that produced the product and gave it an evil / not evil score15:10
awilkinsYou could configure your evilness rating function based on your personal beliefs15:10
foobarrydo you google?15:14
dwatkinsI'm being switched to Vodafone for my company phone, sadly.15:29
AzelphurDoes anyone here have working IPv6?16:08
AzelphurI am somewhat confused as to if I'm behind a NAT with IPv6, so wondering if someone who has working IPv6 can check that for me16:08
popeyAzelphur: brobostigon does I believe16:11
* Azelphur prods brobostigon16:12
diddledanAzelphur: I've got ip6 running16:14
Azelphurdiddledan: pm'd ya :)16:14
diddledanat least I should do16:15
diddledanit doesn't appear to be responding atm16:15
Azelphurdiddledan: good, I guess that means my NAT is working16:15
diddledanno I mean my end is broke16:15
diddledanlemme have a fiddle16:15
Azelphurah :)16:15
diddledanI changed something the other day so I guess that broke it16:16
shauno_I've warned you about fiddling, diddledan16:20
diddledanok, Azelphur , I fixed ip6 my end and your ip still doesn't respond so I guess you got your firewall correct16:29
Azelphurgood :)16:29
diddledanAzelphur: it seems to be immediately closed16:29
diddledanAzelphur: yeah the connection attempt is refused16:30
diddledansome folk prefer black-holing rather than refusing connections because if an attacker doesn't know it's there then they don't try to attack it16:32
diddledanin iptables that's -j DROP vs -j REJECT16:32
diddledanDROP doesn't reply, REJECT sends a connection refused message16:32
AzelphurI see16:33
Azelphurdiddledan: interestingly it seems like my router DROPS IPv616:34
AzelphurIPv4*16:34
AzelphurI wonder why it would drop ipv4 and not ipv616:34
shauno_nat on ipv6?  or just a default inbound policy16:45
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Azelphurshauno_: I dunno tbh, I know IPv6 does stuff differently  in that regard17:45
DJonesok, cure for terminal earache, let your other half get a new car18:49
daftykins*shudder*18:52
daftykinswas the old really that bad? ;)18:52
DJonesNot to me, she complained it stuggled on the motorway, I thought it was fine18:52
DJonesBut it was 10 years old18:53
DJonesNow she's got one with all the gadgets necessary, sat nav, cruise control, electric windows, air con etc18:53
DJonesMust admit I couldn't drive the old car without cruise control, really caused pain on the motorway etc18:54
daftykinsamazing how the features from the US are slowly crawling over18:56
daftykinsor maybe it's just that i'm used to such simple cars (i don't own one or have a license still) but over here we have no MOT so cars can be driven 'til they fall apart18:57
DJonesI have problems driving any distance with pain after surgery a few years back, so cruise control is a necessity for me18:58
daftykinsouch!18:59
DJonesAt times I regret the surgery, but couldn't continue with a hernia anyway18:59
DJonesAh well, these things happen19:00
daftykinspretty sure i saw a guy steal a rear wheel off a bike earlier19:00
DJonesThat can't be a quick job19:01
daftykinssure it can! quick release19:01
DJonesPush bike rather than motorbike?19:01
daftykinsyep19:01
DJonesh19:01
DJonesAh19:02
DJonesMy wife made me laugh when her insurance on a 10 year old 1.1L car increased by 50% for a 1.5L 3 year old car, she though it'd come down because the car was newer and more reliable19:02
DJonesI WISH19:03
daftykinshow much are we talking though?19:07
DJonesdaftykins: £240 to around £375 ish19:56
daftykinsah sound about what i'd expect, as an outsider to driving19:57
diddledanlol @ argument over whether "alphabetise desktop icons" is suitable19:58
diddledanyey for translation flamewar19:59
shauno_that's not even a word - how would it be suitable?20:00
diddledanpopey linked the OED which says it is a real word20:00
shauno_meh, dictionaries are junk these days too.  they've turned into a game of "guess which crazy words we added this year!"20:01
daftykinsyeah pesky social sellouts that they are :(20:04
shauno_I was always told -ize is greek words (and latin?) and -ise is french words20:07
diddledanshauno_: I think that's elfs vs elves20:09
foobarryugh. just realised i got a red letter from the water company in may20:17
foobarrybang goes my credit rating20:17
foobarryi've only just opened the letter. maybe it only just arrived at it was just sitting onthe stairs20:17
daftykinsfoobarry: direct debit time!21:40
diddledandaftykins: I prefer direct credit22:00
diddledanpay me monies!22:00

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