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skellatCajunTechie: Which community team are you referring to?  You were previously in the #ubuntu-locoteams channel asking about teams and that is the correct place but didn't idle long enough until a council member could reply.  If you could head back over there, we may discuss things there.01:03
CajunTechieThank you Skellat! I appreciate it. I'm headed back to the locoteams chan.01:06
ochosimorning07:01
elfymorning 07:02
ochosielfy, Unit193: any chance you could (in the future) do the core discussions in here?07:19
Unit193Sure, we did this afternoon.07:20
ochosii know, which is why i thought i should call you out this time ;)07:20
ochosiso the problem is that with gb no kernel modules are found, but with us it'd work fine?07:20
Unit193Well, figured that bit was more offtopic, still do, but whatever works I suppose.07:20
ochosiwell, it would be good to know what the status/progress of testing is07:21
Unit193All I can say: Worked for me™07:21
ochosielfy: any chance you could test with another language than gb?07:21
Unit193s/language/repo/07:21
elfywhat's the point07:21
Unit193And I don't think it offeres.07:21
ochosielfy: well confirming that it generally works?07:22
elfyUnit193's confirmed that 07:22
ochosiwell, a single person doesn't confirm that much tbh07:22
ochosiif it's not working with other repos (for whatever reason) that sucks then07:23
Unit193Why not? :P07:23
ochosi;)07:23
elfywe want other people to test this - at the moment then I have confirmed that it doesn't work 07:23
elfyI don't see any point in confirming that it works 'somewhere' 07:23
ochosiwhy not?07:24
elfybecause it's confirmed that it doesn't work 'everywhere'07:25
Unit193Because he generally tests about 2 isos a day, and it's getting annoying?07:25
ochosiright, any plan to get others to test it?07:26
Unit193Once we know we won't get a ton of FP errors.07:26
ochosibut that you don't know atm, you only know it works with us and doesn't with gb, right?07:26
Unit193gb will give FPs, we know that.07:27
elfyochosi: so it works for you?07:27
ochosielfy: i haven't had time to test it yet07:27
elfyoh sorry - us =US - read that wrong :)07:27
ochosiah hehe :)07:27
Unit193us = me. :D07:27
ochosireminds me of that great quotation from the office: "there is no *i* in team. but there is *me*."07:28
ochosi(the gb office that is, not the us version)07:28
ochosianyhoo, i realize i might be a bit of a pain in the ass here, but remember that that's currently in my job description...07:29
ochosican't either of you test another repo?07:29
elfytrying now07:29
Unit193You'd have to spoof your geoip, only ever lets me select the one.07:29
elfyUnit193: I got to choose archive07:30
Unit193elfy: I get to choose too, but there's only ever one option, us.archive.ubuntu.com. :P07:30
elfyau fails07:31
* Unit193 redacts a comment there...07:31
elfytrying us07:31
elfywhich looks like it's going to fail for me as well07:32
ochosiweird07:33
elfyperhaps it's vbox07:33
ochosiwould you say that's a question of the utopic cycle being so fresh?07:33
ochosior what other reasons would there be for it to fail07:33
elfyanyway - work now - cya later07:33
ochosisure, seeya elfy 07:33
elfypoint - Unit193 you doing this from trusty or utopic?07:33
ochosiand thanks for testing!07:33
Unit193utopic, isn't in trusty.  vbox too.07:34
elfymmm odd07:34
elfyanyway - off now 07:34
ochosiUnit193: maybe we can get someone else from the us to confirm that it works to begin with ;)07:34
Unit193ochosi: Might be a good idea to start using proper case. :P07:35
ochosiand then move to other regions07:35
* ochosi likes the ambiguity07:35
Unit193Well, does it matter too much?  There's going to be a lot of failures, and this is before the Xubuntu part so that's not the cause.07:36
ochosiyeah, but it'd be good to know *why* it fails at least07:36
ochosi(at least to me that's not crystall clear)07:36
Unit193elfy: If you try a new install, grab a new iso too, if you would?07:37
Unit193Uhhh, are we still tracking systemd?  208 should land after B2.07:40
ochosiUnit193: not sure tbh, but best to bring it up with elfy or blue07:44
ochosigotta go...07:44
ochosibluesabre: i pushed updates to a few themes btw (greybird, orion, bluebird) for xfwm4.11.210:16
ochosigotta talk to satya how he wants numix to look10:17
ochosialbatross is fine-ish as is, i think we should drop that theme this cycle (unless knome or somebody else volunteers to maintain it)10:18
ochosibluesabre: i'll do releases soon i guess, but if you're already running utopic and could take a look whether anything else is missing or looks broken, that'd be great!10:28
ochosisame goes for those icons in the classical appmenu that seemed too large10:29
ochosi(could then do releases for themes and icons)10:34
bluesabreochosi: that would be cool10:46
elfyochosi Unit193 - seems to be working if I get the iso again and not use whatever was on core.html yesterday13:15
knomeolli, hhrgh13:36
knomehump, ochosi ^13:36
ollihhrgh?13:36
knomeolli, keep it for one more cycle and i'll promise to update it? ;]13:36
olli;)13:36
knomesorry, wrong target13:37
knomelong day moving friends13:37
olli /nick illo13:37
knomethat would work! ;)13:37
ollianything I can do for you ;)13:37
knomehehe13:37
* knome offers olli some cookies and coffee13:38
elfyochosi: 64 bit failed debbootstrap 16:19
elfysame in 32bit16:40
elfymmm16:44
elfyso forced it past that, when I get to the tasksel window - xubuntu minimum is not there16:45
knomewhat about xubuntu minimal?16:46
knome;>16:46
elfythat's as present as minimum16:48
knomedamn ;)16:48
elfywaste of hours of my time16:48
knome:(16:48
knomesorry to hear that16:48
elfybluesabre: am I supposed to be seeing Settings in the whiskermenu now? 17:17
elfyUnit193: nor in the 64bit :|18:23
ochosielfy: i guess that (settings) depends on your version of x-d-s and whether it's a clean install/new user18:26
ochosii'm not sure an upgrade overwrites the old menufile18:26
elfyok ochosi - thanks18:27
ochosiwhile the changelog has been updated, i don't read anything from a version bump or a release18:28
ochosihttps://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk18:28
ochosiso you might have to wait a little longer (unless you wanna just pull in rev494 by hand18:28
elfyso - having to apt-get install xubuntu-core18:32
ochosii thought core isn't working?18:32
ochosior on top of what are you installing that now?18:32
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Unit193This is turning out to be very inconsistant.19:43
pleia2ochosi: I've been thinking a lot about a donations page that points to things like the bounties, since folks on social media ask every few months how they can donate money and not even Xfce has a place anymore (they used to have a spot for donating to Thunar)19:50
pleia2ochosi: but catch up with me next week, still recovering here :)19:50
SkippersBossevening19:51
Unit193ochosi: So tasksel needs refreshed before it'll show up in there it seems.  The only things of note: https://unit193.net/noxubuntucore.png  https://unit193.net/debootstrapwarn1.png  https://unit193.net/mirror-selection.png20:58
ochosipleia2: sure, take your time to rest, we can talk whenever you're back on your feet21:16
ochosiUnit193: how does that work? (refresh tasksel)21:17
Unit193Don't know, so I asked.21:24
Unit193bluesabre: Except now we get a battery panel item for desktops. :P21:37
ochosiwhile that is true, it's still kinda useful21:37
ochosiit handles your wireless mice and all devices that draw power (mp3 players etc)21:38
ochosiand you get quick access to presentation mode and settings, so let's say it's at least not entirely useless21:38
Unit193Ah, not entirely then.21:39
ochosiat least it's easier to remove it from the panel ;)21:39
Unit193ochosi: So, what's the deal with the xubuntu-*.desktop files?22:12
ochosiwhich ones?22:13
Unit193Linking to the website and stuff.22:14
ochosiah those ones22:16
ochosiwell what do you mean what's the deal? i guess they were a convenient way to link people to the documentation in the appmenu22:16
ochosi(were and possibly still are)22:17
Unit193Thought there was a comment about them, but I could be remembering wrong.22:17
* ochosi only read Unit193's comment from a few minutes ago...22:19
Unit193OK, thanks.22:19
ochosinp, if there's a deal with those .desktop files let me know!22:20
Unit193Uhhh, well I'll let others say.22:23
ochosiwhy?22:23
Unit193Because it's personal taste.22:24
ochosiyou're still free to utter your opinion22:25
pleia2did the non-automatic social media things for the 14.04.1 post (twitter & g+)23:50

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