[01:03] <skellat> CajunTechie: Which community team are you referring to?  You were previously in the #ubuntu-locoteams channel asking about teams and that is the correct place but didn't idle long enough until a council member could reply.  If you could head back over there, we may discuss things there.
[01:06] <CajunTechie> Thank you Skellat! I appreciate it. I'm headed back to the locoteams chan.
[07:01] <ochosi> morning
[07:02] <elfy> morning 
[07:19] <ochosi> elfy, Unit193: any chance you could (in the future) do the core discussions in here?
[07:20] <Unit193> Sure, we did this afternoon.
[07:20] <ochosi> i know, which is why i thought i should call you out this time ;)
[07:20] <ochosi> so the problem is that with gb no kernel modules are found, but with us it'd work fine?
[07:20] <Unit193> Well, figured that bit was more offtopic, still do, but whatever works I suppose.
[07:21] <ochosi> well, it would be good to know what the status/progress of testing is
[07:21] <Unit193> All I can say: Worked for me™
[07:21] <ochosi> elfy: any chance you could test with another language than gb?
[07:21] <Unit193> s/language/repo/
[07:21] <elfy> what's the point
[07:21] <Unit193> And I don't think it offeres.
[07:22] <ochosi> elfy: well confirming that it generally works?
[07:22] <elfy> Unit193's confirmed that 
[07:22] <ochosi> well, a single person doesn't confirm that much tbh
[07:23] <ochosi> if it's not working with other repos (for whatever reason) that sucks then
[07:23] <Unit193> Why not? :P
[07:23] <ochosi> ;)
[07:23] <elfy> we want other people to test this - at the moment then I have confirmed that it doesn't work 
[07:23] <elfy> I don't see any point in confirming that it works 'somewhere' 
[07:24] <ochosi> why not?
[07:25] <elfy> because it's confirmed that it doesn't work 'everywhere'
[07:25] <Unit193> Because he generally tests about 2 isos a day, and it's getting annoying?
[07:26] <ochosi> right, any plan to get others to test it?
[07:26] <Unit193> Once we know we won't get a ton of FP errors.
[07:26] <ochosi> but that you don't know atm, you only know it works with us and doesn't with gb, right?
[07:27] <Unit193> gb will give FPs, we know that.
[07:27] <elfy> ochosi: so it works for you?
[07:27] <ochosi> elfy: i haven't had time to test it yet
[07:27] <elfy> oh sorry - us =US - read that wrong :)
[07:27] <ochosi> ah hehe :)
[07:27] <Unit193> us = me. :D
[07:28] <ochosi> reminds me of that great quotation from the office: "there is no *i* in team. but there is *me*."
[07:28] <ochosi> (the gb office that is, not the us version)
[07:29] <ochosi> anyhoo, i realize i might be a bit of a pain in the ass here, but remember that that's currently in my job description...
[07:29] <ochosi> can't either of you test another repo?
[07:29] <elfy> trying now
[07:29] <Unit193> You'd have to spoof your geoip, only ever lets me select the one.
[07:30] <elfy> Unit193: I got to choose archive
[07:30] <Unit193> elfy: I get to choose too, but there's only ever one option, us.archive.ubuntu.com. :P
[07:31] <elfy> au fails
[07:31]  * Unit193 redacts a comment there...
[07:31] <elfy> trying us
[07:32] <elfy> which looks like it's going to fail for me as well
[07:33] <ochosi> weird
[07:33] <elfy> perhaps it's vbox
[07:33] <ochosi> would you say that's a question of the utopic cycle being so fresh?
[07:33] <ochosi> or what other reasons would there be for it to fail
[07:33] <elfy> anyway - work now - cya later
[07:33] <ochosi> sure, seeya elfy 
[07:33] <elfy> point - Unit193 you doing this from trusty or utopic?
[07:33] <ochosi> and thanks for testing!
[07:34] <Unit193> utopic, isn't in trusty.  vbox too.
[07:34] <elfy> mmm odd
[07:34] <elfy> anyway - off now 
[07:34] <ochosi> Unit193: maybe we can get someone else from the us to confirm that it works to begin with ;)
[07:35] <Unit193> ochosi: Might be a good idea to start using proper case. :P
[07:35] <ochosi> and then move to other regions
[07:35]  * ochosi likes the ambiguity
[07:36] <Unit193> Well, does it matter too much?  There's going to be a lot of failures, and this is before the Xubuntu part so that's not the cause.
[07:36] <ochosi> yeah, but it'd be good to know *why* it fails at least
[07:36] <ochosi> (at least to me that's not crystall clear)
[07:37] <Unit193> elfy: If you try a new install, grab a new iso too, if you would?
[07:40] <Unit193> Uhhh, are we still tracking systemd?  208 should land after B2.
[07:44] <ochosi> Unit193: not sure tbh, but best to bring it up with elfy or blue
[07:44] <ochosi> gotta go...
[10:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: i pushed updates to a few themes btw (greybird, orion, bluebird) for xfwm4.11.2
[10:17] <ochosi> gotta talk to satya how he wants numix to look
[10:18] <ochosi> albatross is fine-ish as is, i think we should drop that theme this cycle (unless knome or somebody else volunteers to maintain it)
[10:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'll do releases soon i guess, but if you're already running utopic and could take a look whether anything else is missing or looks broken, that'd be great!
[10:29] <ochosi> same goes for those icons in the classical appmenu that seemed too large
[10:34] <ochosi> (could then do releases for themes and icons)
[10:46] <bluesabre> ochosi: that would be cool
[13:15] <elfy> ochosi Unit193 - seems to be working if I get the iso again and not use whatever was on core.html yesterday
[13:36] <knome> olli, hhrgh
[13:36] <knome> hump, ochosi ^
[13:36] <olli> hhrgh?
[13:36] <knome> olli, keep it for one more cycle and i'll promise to update it? ;]
[13:36] <olli> ;)
[13:37] <knome> sorry, wrong target
[13:37] <knome> long day moving friends
[13:37] <olli>  /nick illo
[13:37] <knome> that would work! ;)
[13:37] <olli> anything I can do for you ;)
[13:37] <knome> hehe
[13:38]  * knome offers olli some cookies and coffee
[16:19] <elfy> ochosi: 64 bit failed debbootstrap 
[16:40] <elfy> same in 32bit
[16:44] <elfy> mmm
[16:45] <elfy> so forced it past that, when I get to the tasksel window - xubuntu minimum is not there
[16:46] <knome> what about xubuntu minimal?
[16:46] <knome> ;>
[16:48] <elfy> that's as present as minimum
[16:48] <knome> damn ;)
[16:48] <elfy> waste of hours of my time
[16:48] <knome> :(
[16:48] <knome> sorry to hear that
[17:17] <elfy> bluesabre: am I supposed to be seeing Settings in the whiskermenu now? 
[18:23] <elfy> Unit193: nor in the 64bit :|
[18:26] <ochosi> elfy: i guess that (settings) depends on your version of x-d-s and whether it's a clean install/new user
[18:26] <ochosi> i'm not sure an upgrade overwrites the old menufile
[18:27] <elfy> ok ochosi - thanks
[18:28] <ochosi> while the changelog has been updated, i don't read anything from a version bump or a release
[18:28] <ochosi> https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk
[18:28] <ochosi> so you might have to wait a little longer (unless you wanna just pull in rev494 by hand
[18:32] <elfy> so - having to apt-get install xubuntu-core
[18:32] <ochosi> i thought core isn't working?
[18:32] <ochosi> or on top of what are you installing that now?
[19:43] <Unit193> This is turning out to be very inconsistant.
[19:50] <pleia2> ochosi: I've been thinking a lot about a donations page that points to things like the bounties, since folks on social media ask every few months how they can donate money and not even Xfce has a place anymore (they used to have a spot for donating to Thunar)
[19:50] <pleia2> ochosi: but catch up with me next week, still recovering here :)
[19:51] <SkippersBoss> evening
[20:58] <Unit193> ochosi: So tasksel needs refreshed before it'll show up in there it seems.  The only things of note: https://unit193.net/noxubuntucore.png  https://unit193.net/debootstrapwarn1.png  https://unit193.net/mirror-selection.png
[21:16] <ochosi> pleia2: sure, take your time to rest, we can talk whenever you're back on your feet
[21:17] <ochosi> Unit193: how does that work? (refresh tasksel)
[21:24] <Unit193> Don't know, so I asked.
[21:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: Except now we get a battery panel item for desktops. :P
[21:37] <ochosi> while that is true, it's still kinda useful
[21:38] <ochosi> it handles your wireless mice and all devices that draw power (mp3 players etc)
[21:38] <ochosi> and you get quick access to presentation mode and settings, so let's say it's at least not entirely useless
[21:39] <Unit193> Ah, not entirely then.
[21:39] <ochosi> at least it's easier to remove it from the panel ;)
[22:12] <Unit193> ochosi: So, what's the deal with the xubuntu-*.desktop files?
[22:13] <ochosi> which ones?
[22:14] <Unit193> Linking to the website and stuff.
[22:16] <ochosi> ah those ones
[22:16] <ochosi> well what do you mean what's the deal? i guess they were a convenient way to link people to the documentation in the appmenu
[22:17] <ochosi> (were and possibly still are)
[22:17] <Unit193> Thought there was a comment about them, but I could be remembering wrong.
[22:19]  * ochosi only read Unit193's comment from a few minutes ago...
[22:19] <Unit193> OK, thanks.
[22:20] <ochosi> np, if there's a deal with those .desktop files let me know!
[22:23] <Unit193> Uhhh, well I'll let others say.
[22:23] <ochosi> why?
[22:24] <Unit193> Because it's personal taste.
[22:25] <ochosi> you're still free to utter your opinion
[23:50] <pleia2> did the non-automatic social media things for the 14.04.1 post (twitter & g+)