ovidiu-florindo any of you use encription (OpenPGP) in Kmail? How do I set it up?06:03
yofelovidiu-florin: you go to your identity settings and set your gpg key in the cryptography tab06:09
ovidiu-florinyofel: on which field?06:09
yofeluh, top 2 where it says openPGP?06:10
ovidiu-florinyofel: I cannot add the same key in both06:25
ovidiu-florinno 06:25
ovidiu-florinwait.... something's not wright06:25
ovidiu-florinthe key is valid for the first field but not the second06:25
yofelmy key works in both o.O06:35
soeehiho, i see 4.13.3 released for trusty :)06:35
ovidiu-florinyofel: how do you manage your key? do you have it imported in Kleopatra06:41
yofelit is in there, but I never imported it. I think it simply took what I had in .gnupg06:42
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tsdgeosRiddell: isn't this number a bit high? (utopic)07:33
tsdgeos$ dpkg -l | grep 4\\.13\\. | grep -v 95 | wc -l07:33
apacheloggertsdgeos: you pung earlier in kde-devel, was it anything important?07:35
tsdgeosnah, i'll ping you again this afternoon when on non-work time07:35
apacheloggerfine by me :)07:35
apacheloggertsdgeos: as for the version .... I think yofel got held up with uploading, so utopic isn't complete right now07:37
yofelRiddell was uploading, no idea how far he got07:38
apacheloggerone would not know for it is not documented anywhere :S07:39
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Riddelltsdgeos: some bits didn't get uploaded, some bits of nepomuk are being removed, some bits will need poked through to compile07:54
Riddelltsdgeos: no 4.14 RC?07:57
tsdgeosnot yet07:58
tsdgeoswait for afterwork time for that too07:58
* apachelogger doesn't see that much failing in the ppa tbh08:00
apacheloggeron that note08:00
Riddellvale vale08:00
apacheloggeryofel: do we have any automation that makes sure everything we had in the ppa also ends up in wherever it is supposed to go?08:00
yofelwell, launchpad tells you whether the version in the ppa is older than the version in the archive. I just rely on that08:01
apacheloggerI am not just thinking archive, and I think the launchpad check won't be sufficient with the massively blown up amount of packages we'll have to coordinate08:02
apachelogger(i.e. you have to browse a lot of pages to check xD)08:03
Riddelltsdgeos: oh and kdepim is stuck in New for the all new libfollowupreminder08:04
yofelapachelogger: I don't think we have anything then really. For ppa copies I use --sync in kopypackages which is deprecated API but tells you immediately whether there was an error08:08
yofelso I don't have to go to the ppa page an hour later to check whether the copy actually happened08:09
apacheloggeryofel: maybe something to put on a card somewhere08:18
apacheloggerin particular if sync is deprecated xD08:19
yofelIn the past I had a script that polled all our bzr repos to see what was UNRELEASED, but running 'bzr up' is too much for launchpad it seems (or so one of the sysadmins told me after he figured out that I was causing all the requests)08:20
* apachelogger still can't migrate qapt to next -.-08:20
apacheloggeryofel: :O08:21
apacheloggerwe should just move to git.kde.org ;)08:21
yofelwell, I was polling once an hour, maybe once a day would be ok08:21
apacheloggeryofel: if that's so hard for launchpad I guess it still would make it sigh for some 15 minutes or so08:23
apacheloggerthe issue is made substantially more complicated by the fact that our branches only reflect the archive landing chain 08:24
apacheloggerlike SRUs and branches have no origin branches at all08:25
apacheloggermakes integrity checks on a package set way too complicated outside an archive context really08:25
yofelyeah, I tried the SRU branch stuff for saucy, but I think that's not realistic to have unless we make a launchpad project for every package, which I don't really want to do08:28
yofelthat's only something for git really08:28
apacheloggerI know08:31
apacheloggerbzr makes this way too hard08:31
* apachelogger has broken qapt-batch icon :'<08:31
Riddell!testers | more 14.10 alpha 2 candidate testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/319/builds08:40
Riddelloh bot, why hath thou forsaken me bot08:41
RiddellTm_T: ubottu broken?08:41
tsimpsonit doesn't like URLs, it thinks you're a spammer :)08:41
Riddell!testers | more 14.10 alpha 2 candidate testing!08:42
ubottumore 14.10 alpha 2 candidate testing!: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket  for information08:42
Riddellfinding the URL is left as an exercise to the reader08:42
ovidiu-florinat what time will you guys be arriving in Munich?08:45
ovidiu-florinI want to book my plane08:45
yofeloh right, I still need to arrange my stay in Munich...08:45
ovidiu-florinI see that the event starts at 18:0008:45
ovidiu-florinso If I arrive at 14:50 that would be great08:46
apacheloggerI guess08:49
Riddellovidiu-florin: yep08:49
apacheloggerabout-distro and whoopsie moving from staging to next \o/09:00
shadeslayerwe're getting ISO's from cdimages soon \o/09:01
apacheloggerRiddell: you remember the kapptemplate thing you didn't get an icon from?09:10
santa_apachelogger: morning, yesterday I found that replacing some conflicts with breaks would actually make the dist-upgrade work... with apt-get (but not aptitude). so if I do some merge requests with that are you willing to merge them?09:10
apacheloggersanta_: if they make sense, yeah :P09:11
apacheloggerRiddell: https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Porting_Notes#KAboutData not the very first point here09:11
apacheloggerI don't think the app you gave me had that09:12
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Riddellapachelogger: oh?09:13
santa_apachelogger: ok, what about the changelog entries? because I'm planning to put something in the line of "this is needed to make the dist-upgrades from debian's metapackages easier for apt-get" as justification09:14
Riddellapachelogger: no difference :(09:15
apacheloggersanta_: needs an explanation why IMO09:17
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, I think kaboutdata also has a bug09:18
apacheloggerapp->setProperty("applicationIconName", s_registry->m_appData->programIconName());09:18
apacheloggerthat's what the version I am looking at does09:18
apacheloggerthe property is called windowIcon, not applicationIconName09:18
apachelogger(unless of course qapp has internal logic from one to the other)09:19
santa_apachelogger: because otherwise apt-get algorithm is unable to find a proper upgrade path, that's why09:19
apacheloggersanta_: apt not finding a suitable path is the result of incorrect package relationships09:21
apacheloggerthe resolver is not dumb, it is just rather strict09:21
apacheloggerRiddell: qtbase knows nothing of applicationIconName09:25
apacheloggeror at least grep can't find it09:25
santa_apachelogger: so the changelog entry for this http://paste.kde.org/padeotopr according to you would be ...09:25
tsimpsonthat is a property of QCoreApplication09:26
apacheloggertsimpson: it is?09:26
apacheloggertsimpson: application*Icon*Name09:26
tsimpsonok, well that's foobar09:26
apacheloggermaybe a review to introduce that property didn't land09:27
apacheloggerthis all appears a bit tricky09:27
apacheloggerkcoreaddons only depends on qtcore I think, so it couldn't possibly set applicationIcon from qapplication as that requiers a QIcon which is in qtgui09:28
santa_apachelogger: according to me would be "Use Breaks instead of conflicts against kde-window-manager, kde-workspace, kde-workspace-data, klipper. This is needed to ease the upgrades from debian's kde metapackages such as kde-standard or kde-full."09:30
shadeslayerafk for a bit09:31
santa_which is, by the way more accurate than some debian's changelog entries such as "Update build deps." (which makes me think "nice dude, which ones?")09:31
apacheloggeractually the which ones is also not interesting as that is in version control and/or the upload diff09:36
apacheloggerwhat matters is primarily the why09:36
apacheloggerand the why for your case is described here https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts09:36
apacheloggerin a nutshell: "Normally, Breaks should be used instead of Conflicts since Conflicts imposes a stronger restriction on the ordering of package installation or upgrade and can make it more difficult for the package manager to find a correct solution to an upgrade or installation problem. "09:36
apacheloggerthat's why ultimately apt's problem resolver doesn't manage to find an upgrade path09:37
apacheloggerthis problem is however only fallout from the incorrect package relationship as it should have been Breaks rather than Conflicts 09:37
BluesKaj'Morning folks09:38
santa_Normally, Breaks should be used instead of Conflicts since Conflicts imposes a stronger restriction on the ordering of package installation or upgrade and can make it more difficult for the package manager to find a correct solution to an upgrade or installation problem.09:38
santa_... as explained in my proposed changelog entry09:39
apacheloggerRiddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337938 you may want to throw in a comment if you've got one09:41
ubottuKDE bug 337938 in general "kaboutdata can't set icon" [Normal,Unconfirmed]09:41
Riddellapachelogger: but but how does it work for you and apol?09:43
apacheloggerRiddell: no idea09:44
apacheloggermaybe some runtime loaded component actually does qapp->setWindowIcon(about->programIcon)09:45
apacheloggerRiddell: it is not working for me anymore either btw, though I think I tested with neon earlier09:45
apacheloggeri.e. qapt-batch suffers from the same problem on my present install09:45
apacheloggerRiddell: btw the other night I looked into xx translations and I think it's very possible to create one at package build time, not sure we'd want to hurl it into the regular package though, so that's a bit of an unknown09:53
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apacheloggerkubotu: ping10:00
apacheloggerkubotu: u broken or something?10:01
shadeslayerI'm hungry10:02
apacheloggertrello plugin isn't working10:03
apacheloggeroh my oh my10:03
apacheloggergood thing I removed almost all debug output :@10:03
apacheloggerkubotu: quit10:04
shadeslayerfyi http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html also shows frameworks now10:19
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shadeslayerI hate kjsembed10:33
shadeslayerall those shitty symbols10:33
shadeslayeryofel: didn't we have a symbols updater script10:41
shadeslayerI hate updating symbols10:41
shadeslayerneeds automating I'd say10:41
yofelwe have kubuntu-update-symbols for the archive IIRC10:41
yofelnot sure how it actually works10:41
shadeslayerdoesn't actually seem to work10:42
* shadeslayer fixes10:43
shadeslayermagical regexes in there10:43
yofelhm, we never updated all our merge break/replaces11:04
yofel Versuch, »/usr/share/kde4/services/nepomukffmpegextractor.desktop« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket nepomuk-core-ffmpegextractor 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2 ist11:04
yofelshadeslayer: didn't you want to document which packages had some added? ^^11:06
shadeslayeryofel: I don't follow11:06
shadeslayeralso, give me 15 minutes11:06
shadeslayertrying unbreak kubuntu-update-symbols11:06
yofelwell, for the merges we added a bunch of breaks/replaces << 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu1~ or so11:07
yofelsince .90 all of those are invalid11:07
yofelwell, since >= .2 really11:07
Riddellyofel: I think I committed a breaks for that from sgclark yesterday11:07
Riddellof course nepomuk-core is about to go away11:07
shadeslayeryofel: any ideas how to make argparse use bool for options?11:08
yofelyeah, but we should really update all of them... (nepomuk-core you're right, I'll just leave that)11:08
shadeslayertype=bool in the add_argument call?11:08
yofelshadeslayer: action=store_true I think?11:08
yofelsomething like that11:08
sgclarkI seem to have some spare time, anything I can help with.. ?11:08
shadeslayeraha cool11:09
yofelsee kubuntu-inital-upload, that has booleans11:09
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7913695/11:14
shadeslayerI hate argparse11:14
shadeslayerit's the most shit thing ever11:14
yofelplease just use store_true and remove that is True junk...11:15
shadeslayerdo you reckon I should make that --release11:15
shadeslayerbecause 99% of the time we will want to fetch from proposed11:16
yofelIMO you would want to fetch from proposed, if that fails fetch from release11:16
shadeslayerthat was the second thing I was going to propose11:16
shadeslayeryofel: review plz http://paste.ubuntu.com/7913761/11:22
shadeslayerneed to drop line 2411:23
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7913778/11:25
shadeslayerISO's delayed till early next week as Colin is going on vacation11:26
apacheloggerRiddell: what's the plan for kdesudo?11:40
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apacheloggershadeslayer: u want to port your driver manager/11:44
shadeslayerI shall do it on the 'morrow11:44
apacheloggerI might have done it already11:44
apacheloggeror I ticked the wrong box 11:44
apacheloggerwhy I am quite fast11:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: frameworks branch :P11:45
apacheloggerCommitter: Harald Sitter <sitter@kde.org>  2014-07-17 10:21:0811:45
apacheloggerI have no recollection of that xD11:45
apacheloggeroh oh oh11:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: looks good to me11:47
apacheloggerpython helper is not ported11:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: I can do that11:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: packaging needs porting as well11:50
apacheloggermany warnings11:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah11:53
apacheloggerport seems busted though11:54
apacheloggerdoesn't display no nothing11:54
apacheloggernow it works11:54
apacheloggerI think the dbus bugger doesn't start11:54
Riddellapachelogger: I'm unsure on kdesudo, it is nicer than kdesu in that it outputs stdout, it passes the right variables and it remembers passwords11:55
Riddellso my thinking is that it's worth saving11:55
apacheloggeroh nice, the dbus bugger actually vaporizes on exit11:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7913995/ didn't fix that in the past somehow?11:55
apacheloggerRiddell: except for password remembering isn't everything doable with kdesu?11:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: helper ported11:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: hm11:56
apacheloggerI don't even get why remembering wouldn't work TBH11:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: I also ported it11:56
apacheloggergo away :P11:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: I pushed mine11:56
shadeslayeryou lose11:56
shadeslayerit works here11:56
apacheloggerthe explosion is weird11:56
shadeslayerI saw that once11:56
shadeslayerwhile porting11:57
shadeslayerbut then the porting wasn't complete11:57
shadeslayerso didn't care11:57
apacheloggernow it doesn't explode11:57
apacheloggergod how I hate python11:57
apacheloggernow it crashes again11:58
apacheloggertotally random11:58
apacheloggermaybe we shouldn't sys.exit11:58
apacheloggerah, I see the problem I think11:59
apacheloggerhelper is not found by dbus I guess11:59
apacheloggerso it doesn't start at all11:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: apparently that sys.exit was bad 12:02
apacheloggerif you simply let it return everything's good12:02
apacheloggerweird crap12:02
santa_apachelogger: latesn and best offer: Use Breaks instead of conflicts against kde-window-manager, kde-workspace, kde-workspace-data, klipper. According to debian's policy 7.4 "Normally, Breaks should be used instead of Conflicts since Conflicts imposes a stronger restriction on the ordering of package installation or upgrade and can make it more difficult for the package manager to find a correct solution to an upgrade or installation 12:05
santa_problem, Breaks should be used". This is the case when upgrading from debian's kde metapackages such as kde-standard or kde-full, so this change is needed to make the upgrades from such metapackages work better.12:05
apacheloggersound good12:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7914073/12:14
apacheloggerwhen started through dbus the helper craps out xD12:14
apacheloggerin correct dep management12:15
apacheloggerno that makes no sense isn't modinfo not really low level12:15
apacheloggerPATH being tiny probably doesn't help12:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: this might be a general utopic bug12:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: can you check with kde4 manager12:19
apacheloggerit should not show anything because it gets an error12:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: master has a PATH fix that probably needs to go into utopic kde4, otherwise the manager likely won't work due to popen errors from unresolvable binaries12:31
apacheloggerdriver manger in next staging soon12:49
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: https://trello.com/c/drLw4KPj what's this?12:52
soeein the end it seems it wasn't bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337887 :)13:02
shadeslayerRiddell: dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/118278413:02
ubottuKDE bug 337887 in Image Wallpaper "File with unsupported format shows default thumbnail and can't set wallpaper" [Normal,Unconfirmed]13:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 1182784 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install with German / Swiss Keyboard fails: "ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141" or "Installer Crashed"" [High,Triaged]13:03
shadeslayerRiddell: see comment 2513:03
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7914454/13:07
shadeslayerxnox: plz look at bug 118278413:11
ubottubug 1182784 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install with German / Swiss Keyboard fails: "ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141" or "Installer Crashed"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118278413:11
shadeslayerxnox: I've debugged it a bit in comment 2513:11
shadeslayerI'll assign it to you13:11
shadeslayerxnox: apart from updating kbdnames.gz , I am unsure how to fix the bug13:12
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shadeslayerapachelogger: what's ubuntu-dist-upgrade13:24
shadeslayeror did you mean kubuntu-devel-do-release-upgrade13:24
shadeslayerwhere does kdesudo come from ? 0.o13:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://trello.com/c/9dsZHUUC13:25
* apachelogger needs to write title parser13:25
yofelkdesudo is kdesudo, or what do you mean?13:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: already doing upgrade13:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: kubuntu-devel thing is only a convience wrapper around ubuntu-dist-upgrade13:26
shadeslayeryofel: right, so it's a native package?13:26
yofelshadeslayer: well, it has a source, but we're upstream13:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: I don't have anything called ubuntu-dist-upgrade13:26
apacheloggerwe are also technically not upstream13:26
apacheloggerupstream is kdesudo-developers which has some overlap, but is not us :P13:26
yofelwell, upstream is http://launchpad.net/kdesudo13:26
yofelwell, yeah13:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: you wouldn't because it's not a proper package13:27
apacheloggerit's a tarball on the server13:27
shadeslayerthat thing13:27
* apachelogger thinks shadeslayer needs to read up on how the upgrade process exactly works :P13:28
shadeslayerI thought all of the stuff listed was a command line tool or app13:28
shadeslayerthat was pre installed13:28
shadeslayerwhich is why I was confused13:28
* shadeslayer starts on kdesudi13:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: Riddell is doing that13:29
apacheloggeralso I am still not convinced it is worth moving it forward13:30
apacheloggerseems like mostly pointless duplication from kdesu13:30
yofelhm, not sure what kdesudo does else, but kdesu seems to work fine for me. Remember password works too13:37
yofelwhich btw. doesn't work in kdesudo13:39
soeewhat is the status of 4.14beta ?13:47
soeeah see it now, fre reds13:48
Riddellyofel: how do you get that? kdesu with sudo does not remember a password for me, kdesudo does so fine13:58
yofelkdesudo never ever remembered passwords for me, kdesu works fine (like, the real kdesu that you get after uninstalling kdesudo)13:59
RiddellI just have a freshly installed utopic alpha 2 candidate14:00
Riddellkdesudo ls  asks for password14:00
Riddellsecond time it does not ask14:00
yofelhm, I guess then that broke somewhere along the way14:01
Riddell/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu-distrib/kdesu ls  asks for password every time14:01
yofelwell, that has a "Remember password" checkbox...14:01
yofelworks fine if I check that14:02
Riddellhmm, you're right14:02
Riddellso remaining differences are terminal output and some variables that get set14:02
Riddell/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu-distrib/kdesu  gdebi-kde14:03
Riddellthat was something that was broken14:03
Riddellsome hardcoding of kdesudo in muon and kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade14:04
Riddellhmm I'm wrong I just didn't have gdebi installed14:05
Riddellshadeslayer: you also reported bug 1334199 which is the same, marking as duplicate14:23
ubottubug 1334199 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-kde fails to install Kubuntu in non-English" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133419914:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: poke14:25
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apacheloggershadeslayer: hm?14:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: halp, I'm using the mail gem from ruby14:37
shadeslayerbut I don't know how to list all the attributes it has parsed14:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://github.com/mikel/mail14:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: what class are you on?14:38
shadeslayermail = Mail.read('/path/to/message.eml')14:39
shadeslayerI was trying to read dsc files14:39
apacheloggergood lord thats an architecture clusterfuck14:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: read doesn't parse14:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: not the one I am looking at anyway14:40
shadeslayer"Many more methods available."14:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: generally speaking though ... run 'p' on the return value14:40
shadeslayerThanks API author14:40
apacheloggerthat will print it as best it can14:40
apacheloggere.g. p Mail.read()14:40
apacheloggerah wait14:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7915089/14:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: I think I understand the class now ^^14:41
apacheloggernot even a class it is :P14:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: try .header(key) I guess14:43
shadeslayerirb(main):004:0> puts(mail.header('Format'))14:44
shadeslayer=> nil14:44
apacheloggerno wait14:44
apacheloggergod that thing has shitty api14:44
apachelogger    def headers(hash = {})14:44
apacheloggerthat's a setter14:44
apacheloggerto read this you have to take your brain and flip it inside out14:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: what does .header_fields give you14:46
shadeslayerthat's it14:46
kubotu[14.10 :: Review :: package sddm ++ SK, MZ, HS, SC, RG]14:47
apachelogger^ new feature14:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: doesn't parse14:49
apacheloggerall the foo ends up in the body14:49
apacheloggergod konws why14:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: didn't I already write you a simple parser :P14:50
* apachelogger needs to find something to eat14:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: found a lib that does it14:55
shadeslayerit's called smail14:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7915140/14:57
shadeslayerruby is awesme14:58
apacheloggerpft, you could have just used my code :'<15:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: so, we could use ruby on rails and shizzle to make it all pretty15:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: rails is terrible :P15:07
apacheloggerbut knock yourself out15:07
shadeslayerok 15:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: what would you recommend ?: P15:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: the code I wrote a while ago :P15:27
shadeslayerI shall just write my own html15:28
shadeslayersomeone can prettify with some CSS15:28
apacheloggerdriver manager moving to next15:35
apacheloggeroh wait15:35
apacheloggerit can't15:35
apacheloggerneeds qapt15:35
apacheloggersuch a drag the broken polkit stuff -.-15:35
shadeslayeryofel: kai tells me he's getting  kwalletd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so: undefined symbol: _ZN7KWallet7Backend13setCipherTypeENS_17BackendCipherType15:42
shadeslayeryofel: possibly kwalletd needs rebuilding15:42
shadeslayerwell, kde-runtime15:42
yofelversion? release?15:42
shadeslayer4.13.2, trusty15:42
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7915488/15:42
shadeslayergetting kde-runtime version now15:43
shadeslayerkde-runtime at 4.13.2 as well15:43
yofelhow does that even happen, kwalletd and libkdeinit4_kwallet are both from kde-runtime15:44
shadeslayernot entirely sure, he says he's running Linux Mint though15:44
shadeslayerbut the kde bits look like they're from the regular archive15:44
Riddellisn't that what linux mint does?15:45
Riddellthey even have a licence to allow them to copy our free software15:45
yofelshadeslayer: what exactly did he open?15:45
shadeslayer"whenever I do something wallet-related (opening a wallet, creatng, whatever) it crashes with <error pasted above"15:46
yofelI don't get it15:55
yofelnm -D /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so | grep _ZN7KWallet7Backend13setCipherTypeENS_17BackendCipherType15:55
yofel                 U _ZN7KWallet7Backend13setCipherTypeENS_17BackendCipherTypeE15:55
yofelthat hasn't changed between 0 and .2 and even .9515:55
yofelI'll have to try and reproduce that in a VM15:56
Riddell** proofreaders https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Alpha2/Kubuntu15:57
yofelshadeslayer: could you maybe get 'dpkg -l' from him? So we don't ask for various versions all the time15:58
* yofel makes his way home16:05
yofelwill look at it later16:05
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tsdgeosRiddell: RC is out16:06
* tsdgeos gets some rest16:06
Riddellooh 16:07
Riddellsgclark: ↑16:07
Riddellto the ninja cave scarlett!16:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping16:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: patches = Dir["./" + PACKAGE_NAME_HERE + "/debian/patches/*"]  < how do I substitute a var instead of PACKAGE_NAME_HERE16:09
shadeslayerusing "" instead  of '' 16:10
* Riddell out16:13
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/pey4xgwvk16:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7915872/ \o/16:41
shadeslayersomeone want to prettify that with some CSS ?16:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7915951/16:44
shadeslayersomehwat better16:44
shadeslayeryofel: debfx could you prettify the output of http://paste.kde.org/prmy55hak with some CSS ? as a test, run it against kserver16:45
shadeslayererm, kservice16:45
santa_apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging-next/plasma-desktop-work2/+merge/22908216:54
shadeslayeryofel: use this one http://paste.kde.org/plcba8rcx16:57
shadeslayernow a branch lp:~rohangarg/+junk/ubuntu-patch-parser16:59
shadeslayerand with that I'm out16:59
shadeslayercya tomorrow16:59
mcstr_hmmm question to you guys... let's say i wanna build a custom kubuntu distribution via remastersys would it be legal to not only integrate the latest firefox but also some plugins/addons per default?17:18
mcstr_anyone knows?17:23
Quintasanmcstr_: Depends on the license of the things you want to integrate17:32
Quintasanand I'm pretty sure you couldn't call it Kubuntu without ... consent17:33
mcstr_@quintasan hm i thought of an adblocker and maybe 2 or 3 other addons i get via the firefox marketplace17:33
mcstr_no worry about the name17:33
Quintasaninsert the name of the company who has our trademark now17:33
mcstr_it should be just kubuntu based17:33
mcstr_thats all17:33
mcstr_i will give it another name ofc17:34
Quintasanmcstr_: Read the license there, I guess it should be fine17:34
=== DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec
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soeewee some 4.3.95 pacgates in utopic :)19:12
* yofel wonders why again the driver manager isn't executed on first run19:14
apacheloggeryofel: it's on a timer19:17
shadeslayerit is19:17
shadeslayerwhat apachelogger said19:17
shadeslayerlazy loading19:17
yofelhow many minutes? If I install kubuntu in virtualbox and want the proper resolution I don't really expect to have to wait half an hour until the vbox driver is suggested19:18
apachelogger5 I think19:19
yofelI had a to give user support to a co-worker who spent several minutes trying to figure out how to do that in trusty a few days ago even19:19
apacheloggeror 319:19
soeeis there already 4.14 RC build status ?19:19
yofel*had to19:19
apacheloggerwe probably could reduce it a bit19:19
apacheloggerI don't much fancy bombarding the user with notifications right after login though19:20
yofelIf I have a 640x480 window I would actually appreciate that...19:20
yofelofc. that's very subjective19:20
soeeshould i care http://paste.ubuntu.com/7917022/ ?19:22
yofelno, it has some dkms modules that it probably restarted19:22
apacheloggerI don't think designing the user experience after shitty virtualbox is a good design methodology :P19:24
yofelI should try how ubuntu behaves actually19:25
yofelshadeslayer: so, the kwallet bug is herby "rejected, unreproducable"19:27
yofelreading and storing passwords works, creating/closing/opening/deleting wallets works19:30
shadeslayeryofel: hm, maybe mint is weird, I'll try upgrading in VBox tomorrow19:33
shadeslayermaybe only happens on mint19:33
=== who_da_fly is now known as superfly
yofelfrom the package list anything related is from us though, so I'm clueless19:34
yofelunless they rebuilt something19:34
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | KF5 5.0.0! notes http://goo.gl/53m7zt : status http://goo.gl/MxvdGp | 4.13.95 U http://goo.gl/dMO38I | Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej
yofel.3 is done19:35
soeewhy About System shows Ubuntu 14.10 not Kubuntu ?19:38
sgclarkhmm mine says Kubuntu, which version?19:40
yofelwhere is that even?19:41
sgclarkKInfocenter - about system is where I am looking19:41
soeeplasma5, kubuntu 14.0419:41
soeeSystem Settings -> About System19:41
sgclarkhmm I don't even have that in my plasma519:42
kubotufeed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 619:42
yofelme neither19:43
yofelthough I can't find it in kde4 too19:43
sgclarkmy kde4 is 4.13.95 and I am using the iso build for my plasma519:43
yofelyeah, for some reason I don't have that19:44
sgclarkme either19:45
yofelThere's Help>About Systemsettings and Help>About KDE19:45
yofelno about system19:46
soeeAbout System http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/31/aboutsystem2.png19:47
sgclarkyeah with cute pile of dragons :) but yeah only thing I have as well19:47
sgclarknope that is definately not there on my system lol, hmm19:48
soeesgclark: do you have latest updates etc ?19:48
yofelI know we added that, but I don't know what it's part of :S19:48
sgclarkoh hmm, a pile of kept back... this is a new install.19:49
yofelah, it's in 'about-distro'19:50
yofelI wonder why it doesn't show up19:50
yofelit even shows up in krunner o.O19:51
yofelyeah, says ubuntu19:51
soeealso there should be link to kubuntu page not ubuntu :D19:51
yofelhm, I didn't have that installed on my kde4 system. fun19:53
soeemagic :)19:54
sgclarkok so it looks like I packaged that, but it is replica of previous version. Where does it pull the info from?19:57
yofelwell, seems like it changed a lot from the kde4 version, and it reads the information from /etc/os-release correct19:59
apacheloggerthe reason it says ubuntu is because it is ubuntu :P19:59
yofelbut the author showed up, so let him explain ^^19:59
apacheloggerand because we have no kubuntu-settings-desktop for kf5 apparently20:00
apacheloggerthe reason not every one has it is because I suppose the present seed does not pull it in as it was only promoted to next yesterday20:00
apacheloggerand to clearify: kubuntu-settings-desktop would define an override which changes to branding to Kubuntu20:01
sgclarkok thanks for clearing that up, thought maybe I messed up in packaging20:03
yofelhm, I just upgraded by utopic system from .2 to .95 and now kickoff>Leave>Restart does nothing :S20:07
soeeim using homerun kicker and reboot, quit buttons trigers this plasma horizontal panel 20:09
yofelyeah, that's plasma5 though20:09
yofeland it'll probably work after a restart20:09
yofelbut I first need to restart20:09
yofeland 'sudo shutdown -r' is not really a user friendly solution20:09
soeesudo reboot ? :)20:10
yofelthat's pretty much the damn same thing :D20:10
sgclarkhmm I am on .95 and  Leave - reboot works20:10
soeehaha i know only sudo shutdown 0 :D20:10
yofelsgclark: point is, I'm still *running* .220:11
sgclarkyofel: ahh right, sorry20:11
yofeloh well, we can figure that out when we test backports or upgrades20:12
* yofel does qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.Reboot20:12
yofelwell, at least that worked20:14
BadBIOSheey, Kubuntu developers, just joined IRC today and I wanna tell you that you do such an awesome job at making such a good OS20:27
sgclarkyofel: any idea what may cause this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7917555/20:36
soeelibre office looks just ugly http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/31/libreoffice.png20:38
yofelerm... I think that's when the archive changelog head is different from the bzr changelog head20:38
yofelso different changes in bzr and in the archive20:38
yofelneeds to be fixed by hand20:38
sgclarkok thanks20:38
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sgclarkyofel: I am trying to update the cronjob and the instructions say sudo -u kubuntu bash but it is asking for a password I don't know20:43
yofeloh, maybe you never had one set, give me a sec20:43
sgclarkok thanks20:43
yofelsgclark: you have a password file in your homefolder20:45
yofeland please change it20:45
yofelsgclark: and normally, the changelog for RC's is "New upstream release candidate", but nvm now20:46
yofelrc's are not a beta20:46
sgclarkahh ok20:46
sgclarkhow many RC's are there typically?20:47
yofeldepends on what the release team decides, historically it was 2 betas, 2 RC's, recently we had 2-3 betas and 1-2 RC20:47
yofelthey're reworking schedules, so it changes all the time20:48
sgclarkoh ok20:48
yofelsgclark: can you please also update the status link and version in the topic? (please also use a short url)20:53
sgclarkyofel: I am sorry, not following20:54
sgclarkI updated to 9720:54
yofelyeah, but the /topic still says 4.13.95 U <link>20:54
sgclarkwherre do I find that?20:55
yofeluh.. what's your IRC client? ( the /topic command should work everywhere though)20:56
sgclarkoh irc, I am looking for a file in qa... sure lol20:56
yofeloh heh20:57
yofelsorry for being misleading20:57
=== sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | KF5 5.0.0! notes http://goo.gl/53m7zt : status http://goo.gl/MxvdGp | 4.13.97 U http://goo.gl/1yDWi9 | Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej".
sgclarkwoot, learned something new lol20:59
* yofel wonders when exactly apachelogger started an octopii fan club o.O21:07
valorieshadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/kubuntu-plasma5 shows only failed and cancelled builds22:08
valorieoh my, this page: www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download has 13.10!23:16
sgclarkheh that is pretty old23:18
valorieshould be axed, but it was the top match in google "kubuntu torrent"23:20
sgclarkoh the joys of SEO. Should probably just put a link to the latest at the top then perhaps maybe23:22
valorieI'll write a card so it's not forgotten23:27

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