[02:24] <Nothing_Much> oh darn
[02:24] <Nothing_Much> I don't have previous QA work
[02:26] <Nothing_Much> What should I do about not having previous QA work?
[03:28] <Nothing_Much> What should I do about not having previous QA work?
[03:53] <Nothing_Much> Pardon my question for the third time, but..
[03:53] <Nothing_Much> What should I do about not having previous QA work?
[06:54] <jibel> good morning
[07:15] <dkessel_> good morning jibel
[07:15] <dkessel_> good morning quality ;)
[07:17] <elfy> morning all
[07:22] <jibel> good morning dkessel_
[07:27] <pitti> jibel: erk -- http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-setup-testbed/ didn't actually run for two weeks; did the trigger get broken? we do have current cloud images
[07:27]  * pitti runs it
[07:28] <jibel> err, checking
[07:29] <pitti> jibel: that also explains why dist-upgrade takes so long
[07:30] <jibel> pitti, the url trigger is broken on d-jenkins
[07:30] <pitti> jibel: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-setup-testbed/urltriggerPollLog/? -- does that look goo?
[07:31]  * pitti starts a build
[07:55] <pitti> jibel: should we perhaps switch to daily build then? even if it's an old image that will do the dist-upgrade once instead of per-test
[08:26] <jibel> pitti, right, if CI doesn't today, I'll change it to daily build.
[08:26] <jibel> doesn't fix
[08:26] <jibel> +it
[08:26] <jibel> pfff typing is hard :)
[15:01] <Nothing_Much> What should I do about not having previous QA work?
[15:02] <gQuigs> Nothing_Much: what do you want to learn to do?  triage bugs?
[15:18] <Nothing_Much> gQuigs: Test and Triage through a VM
[15:18] <Nothing_Much> I read through the QATeam wiki
[15:19] <Nothing_Much> It's just that the "previous QA work" throws me off a little
[15:21] <gQuigs> Nothing_Much: hmm.. maybe rephrase to - what's your previous experience dealing with bugs?
[15:22] <gQuigs> or general troubleshooting might fit in there too
[15:23] <gQuigs> Nothing_Much: any specific applications you want to help triage?
[15:24] <Nothing_Much> gQuigs: Not yet, I'm still reading on how to use testdrive
[15:28] <gQuigs> Nothing_Much: you can triage a good number of bugs without testdrive..   starting with finding old untouched bugs and trying to see if they logically are still relevant
[15:28] <gQuigs> if not, something like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Old_untouched_bugs and then set to Incomplete
[15:29] <gQuigs> ^ would give some good experience with Launchpad
[15:40] <Nothing_Much> gQuigs: From what I've read, Triaging is basically bugtesting on stable releases, right?
[15:49] <gQuigs> Nothing_Much: in some ways yes..  confirm the bugs are still present
[15:49] <gQuigs> but also make sure they have enough info for someone to work on them
[15:49] <gQuigs> another big part is finding duplicates... oh and pushing upstream...
[15:49] <gQuigs> but yea, start with bugtesting on stable releases :)