slangasekLaney: fyi, I'm unblocking init-system-helpers to get init de-essentialed, as this is causing issues for people debootstrapping.  It should have no impact on images, so I don't believe any respin is required00:26
infinityjibel: Awesome, thanks.00:42
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mlankhorstdoko: pong06:40
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Laneyhrm, where are the lubuntu alternates?08:25
Laneyiso tracker thinks they are rebuilding08:26
Laneybut nusakan doesn't08:26
* Laney tries again08:26
ypwongcould anyone help to migrate ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.2.1 from proposed to release?08:48
ypwongwe'd like to build a new image based on this version.08:49
Laneyypwong: you want this to be in alpha 2?08:52
ypwongLaney: yes we want to use in alpha2, the current version is buggy08:53
Laneythis handling looks a bit shaky to me08:53
ypwong1.2.0 makes the image failed to build08:55
shadeslayercjwatson: any news of the Plasma 5 ISO ? :)08:57
cjwatsonshadeslayer: I sent you a message last night asking for a detail for that ...08:57
shadeslayerah yes, I just saw that, moment08:58
cjwatsonright, thanks, let me see08:58
cjwatsonshadeslayer: which architectures?09:00
shadeslayercjwatson: amd64 and i386 please09:00
Laneyypwong: do you think this feature is essential?09:02
LaneyPRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Kylin Kylin Kylin Kylin Utopic Unicorn (development branch)"09:02
LaneyThat's from reinstalling the package a few times :)09:02
cjwatsonshadeslayer: and this is a live CD format, and I can call it "kubuntu-plasma5"?09:02
cjwatsonshadeslayer: is there already a task or metapackage or something?  where are the seeds?09:03
shadeslayerseeds https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-plasma5.utopic09:04
shadeslayermetapackage is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop09:04
Laneywhere can I find evidence from the lubuntu alternate build I just ran?09:04
LaneyI don't see any output from it09:05
shadeslayerlink to dsc https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+files/kubuntu-plasma5-meta_1.0%7Eppa7.dsc09:05
cjwatsonLaney: you running it directly on nusakan?09:05
shadeslayerI am unsure if there's a task in there, checking09:05
cjwatsonLaney: cdimage/log/lubuntu/utopic/09:05
cjwatsonshadeslayer: there won't be, but I'll use a metapackage09:05
Laneycjwatson: right, no log there for today09:05
cjwatsononly the primary archive gets tasks, so pretend I wasn't silly enough to mention that09:05
cjwatsonLaney: command line?09:05
shadeslayercjwatson: we're using the kubuntu-live task + kubuntu-plasma5-desktop for building ISOs on our side09:06
shadeslayerwhich has worked so far09:06
Laneyfor-project lubuntu cron.daily09:06
cjwatsonshadeslayer: hm, don't like that09:06
shadeslayercjwatson: oh ?09:06
cjwatsonshadeslayer: but I guess it will sort of work as long as you don't change the wrong things09:06
cjwatsonshadeslayer: the kubuntu-live task is generated under the assumption that kubuntu-desktop is installed09:06
shadeslayerah I see09:06
cjwatsonit's not actually strictly valid to use it without09:06
cjwatsonbut you might be close enough to get away with it09:06
cjwatsonso let me chase down the seventy gazillion things I need to tweak here09:08
shadeslayer^^ I can understand :D09:08
Laneyypwong: I'll unblock it on a "better than now" basis, but this should be revisited09:08
ypwonglaney: thanks, I'll ask happyaron to take a look at the bug you found09:09
cjwatsonshadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/kubuntu-plasma5 exists, livefs build logs will eventually show up there09:09
shadeslayercjwatson: thanks alot! :D09:09
cjwatsonwonder if I need to adjust extra_ppas for the new reference format09:10
cjwatsonI guess we'll find out09:10
Laneyoh wait09:11
LaneyI was looking at the end, and all daily-live- logs are sorted after all daily- ones.09:12
LaneyMissing debootstrap-required init09:12
cjwatsonah, I hadn't quite gone to look yet :)09:12
cjwatsonhuh, I thought that was being fixed09:12
cjwatsonmaybe priority09:13
cjwatson$ change-override -p optional -y init09:13
cjwatsonLaney: try again after the next publisher run finishes09:13
cjwatson(not the one currently in progress)09:13
Laneywhat happened here?09:13
cjwatsoninit was imported from Debian with the priority set in the package09:15
cjwatsondebootstrap automatically adds anything with priority required/important09:16
cjwatsonand debian-cd has a sanity check to make sure that everything wanted by debootstrap is actually on the image09:16
Laneyah right, was missing the last piece of knowledge09:18
cjwatsonit doesn't come up often so it's a bit obscure09:19
xnoxcjwatson: i dropped essential, but not required.09:21
cjwatsonxnox: not within your power anyway, priorities are always overridden09:21
cjwatsononce it's in the archive it doesn't much matter what the package says09:21
xnoxcjwatson: essential bit as well?09:21
cjwatsonno that's up to the package09:22
cjwatsonshadeslayer: what's a suitable display name for the flavour?  just "Kubuntu Plasma 5"?09:23
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^09:23
shadeslayercjwatson: all 7 gazillion things adjusted ? :D10:18
cjwatsonsigh, patience10:19
cjwatsonI'm working on it10:20
cjwatsonbut busy morning, preparing to go away10:21
cjwatsonand needed to wait for my livecd-rootfs upload to migrate anyway10:23
shadeslayercjwatson: roger :)10:35
cjwatsoncdimage stuff theoretically done10:35
shadeslayercjwatson: where are you off to for your vacation?10:37
cjwatsonjust 1.5 days in Birmingham10:38
shadeslayerah I see :)10:38
cjwatsoncome on publisher, give me livecd-rootfs in release so that I can try a test-build so that I can go on holiday10:48
ogra_heh, i guess you need patience ...10:48
ogra_my lxc-android-config upload last night took ~3h10:48
ogra_(from upload to archive)10:48
cjwatsonthe publisher is very slow at the moment because an important and large column in the Launchpad database is having to be widened to 64 bits10:49
ogra_ah, i was suspecting the KDE overload ;)10:49
cjwatsonit seems to have pushed the DB server over the edge of a performance cliff10:49
Laneyah, was wondering - I've been spamming rmadison for kylin10:49
cjwatsonwe've been waiting for new DB servers to be plugged in for a while now ...10:50
cjwatsonLaney: it's there now10:51
Laneyso it is10:52
cjwatsonattempting to build kubuntu-plasma5 now, but scalingstack is actually a bit busy for once :)10:56
cjwatsonthis is attached to a virt PPA so it needs to be built on virt builders10:56
cjwatsonso just as well scalingstack's been deployed since it wouldn't have worked on the old builders10:56
cjwatson(live-build and hardy weren't friends)10:57
cjwatsonargh, timeout, seriously11:11
cjwatsonshadeslayer: sorry, I think I'm stuck on a firewall issue, so will have to wait until early next week11:19
shadeslayercjwatson: I'll continue using my hacked up orchrestration for ISO's till then11:19
shadeslayerdoes the job decently well, even though ubiquity ends up on the final installation11:20
cjwatsonhopefully it's mostly there on my side11:20
cjwatsonit just needs to talk to the Launchpad API to fetch the signing key for your PPA, and I think that the scalingstack builders don't currently have firewall access for that11:20
cjwatsonbut no time to fix now before I leave11:20
shadeslayerokie dokie11:21
Laneycjwatson: looks like the priority change wasn't enough11:44
cjwatsonLaney: I think it just needed another publisher run or something.  the cdimage mirror doesn't have the priority change11:50
Laneywhere is the mirror?11:52
Laneyoh, found it11:53
Laneyypwong: your images are up, testing welcome12:57
ypwongLaney: yep, I have informed QA to do that12:58
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shadeslayeranyone have a clue why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kxmlgui/5.0.0-0ubuntu1/+build/6205249 doesn't build?13:42
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktextwidgets/5.0.0-0ubuntu1 < seems to have built for armhf13:42
xnoxshadeslayer: rmadison -S libkf5textwidgets-dev says it's not published for armhf.13:46
xnoxshadeslayer: last archive publish was 11:56:42 UTC yesterday....which looks wrong.13:48
xnoxwhy does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel-proposed/Release says trusty-proposed ?!13:49
xnoxbuild finished at 12:33, last armhf publish was at 13:07 should be there by now...13:51
LaneyRiddell: you guys testing A2?13:52
Laneywho does lubuntu these days?13:52
RiddellLaney: yes, come across a bug with installing in !english that I spent some time looking at, will do the rest of the tests now13:59
RiddellLaney: and I should appologise for grumping at you on ubuntu-release mailing list the other day, that was uncalled for13:59
LaneyRiddell: did you?14:00
Riddelloh if you didn't notice then never mind :)14:01
Laneyapology accepted anyway :-)14:01
Laneystgraber: how are the product owners set on the iso tracker?14:05
shadeslayerthx xnox14:05
LaneyI'm trying to find out what 'lubuntu release' maps to14:06
Laneybecause it's not ~lubuntu-release :-)14:06
Riddell~lubuntu-dev ?14:10
stgraberLaney: lubuntu-product-managers14:11
Laneywxl: it seems to be you14:13
Laneyyou guys organising testing of A2?14:13
Laneyah, I see some results now14:13
utlemmingstgraber: where are the alpha-2 release notes hiding these days?14:46
utlemmingAlpha-2 Cloud Images are affected by bug #135052214:46
ubot93bug 1350522 in linux "EC2 kernel crash due to vmalloc" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135052214:46
stgraberLaney: ^14:47
Laneystgraber: Didn't start any, where are the A1 ones?14:48
stgraberI don't believe we had any, just an announcement and then some per-product ones14:48
LaneyYep, thought so14:49
Laneyutlemming: Feel free to make UtopicUnicorn/Alpha2/UbuntuCloudImages or something and I'll link to it14:49
utlemmingLaney: ack14:49
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didrocksseb128: if you have a minute ^15:30
seb128didrocks, sure15:32
RiddellKubuntu es bueno ↑15:36
Laneysehr gut15:36
* Laney cribs from A1's release announcement15:49
Laneywxl: Riddell: utlemming: ypwong: Let me know a link to include if you have one15:51
LaneyAlso if you want to change the text15:51
utlemmingLaney: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/utopic/alpha-2 will be the cloud image link15:53
Laneyutlemming: ya, got that one, I meant a release notes type thing15:53
utlemmingLaney: oh, right....15:54
LaneyI just did s/1/2/ on the URLs basically15:54
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Laney... ready when you are ...16:16
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Laneyutlemming: ypwong: wxl: I'm out for a bit, would appreciate you testing/readying16:45
LaneyI'll be back in a few hours16:45
utlemmingLaney: I'm good to go16:47
Laneyjust waiting for lubuntu/kylin16:47
xnoxLaney: are images done / no more respins? if that's the case, can you please lift the freeze?16:56
wxlLaney: sorry been a bit out of it due to rl issues. we've started testing on a2?17:20
wxlLaney: out of it as i said. i see that the release is scheduled to come out. we have full tests with no issues on desktop amd64/i386 but that's it. suggestions?17:28
pfsmorigo_infinity: hi, maybe you can help me. I got an email saying that 12.04 has a swapcount=1 parameter in the kernel options and not in 14.04. Do you aware of it? Do you know why it was removed?17:49
pfsmorigo_(if it was removed after all)17:51
infinitypfsmorigo_: I'm going to need more context than that.17:54
infinitypfsmorigo_: On the kernel commandline, in an fstab mount line, elsewhere?17:54
infinitypfsmorigo_: Anyhow, I see no such options being used on my 12.04 systems, so I'm not sure how we could have stopped using something we weren't using.17:55
infinitypfsmorigo_: Unless the argument is that the kernel stopped listening to that option when he supplies it himself?17:56
pfsmorigo_infinity: I guy here complained... "Do you know why on Ubuntu 14.04,  swapcount is disabled by default? It is enabled by default on 12.04."17:56
pfsmorigo_infinity: seems that it was an option hat used to be set in grub.cfg and know isn't anymore17:57
infinitypfsmorigo_: No.17:58
infinitypfsmorigo_: It was never in grub.cfg17:58
infinitypfsmorigo_: A quick googling suggest that maybe he's trying to play with memory.memsw.* variables, which are only exposed in swapcount=1, which is new in newer kernels.17:58
pfsmorigo_infinity: ok, good point17:59
pfsmorigo_infinity: makes sense17:59
infinitypfsmorigo_: In which case, he probably just wants to add "swapcount=1" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub, run sudo update-grub and reboot.18:00
pfsmorigo_infinity: yep, I suggested that18:00
pfsmorigo_infinity: tks man18:00
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Laneywxl: you can just release those if you want to18:52
Laneywxl: just mark those ones as ready18:53
Laneyxnox: going to now, was hoping to hear back from the stragglers first18:55
Laneyout for another couple of hours, hopefully will hear back from kylin then19:03
Laneywxl: I'll mark these two images as ready and you can just have an alpha with those19:03
wxlLaney: works thanks19:05
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LaneyI'll wait until tomorrow morning for kylin on the basis that it'll still be Thursday somewhere ...22:27
JackYuLaney, sorry for our delay. Expected to be done in half hour:)22:40

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