[00:26] Laney: fyi, I'm unblocking init-system-helpers to get init de-essentialed, as this is causing issues for people debootstrapping. It should have no impact on images, so I don't believe any respin is required [00:42] jibel: Awesome, thanks. === doko_ is now known as doko [06:40] doko: pong === psivaa is now known as psivaa-brb === psivaa-brb is now known as psivaa [08:25] hrm, where are the lubuntu alternates? [08:26] iso tracker thinks they are rebuilding [08:26] but nusakan doesn't [08:26] * Laney tries again [08:48] could anyone help to migrate ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.2.1 from proposed to release? [08:49] we'd like to build a new image based on this version. [08:52] ypwong: you want this to be in alpha 2? [08:53] Laney: yes we want to use in alpha2, the current version is buggy [08:53] this handling looks a bit shaky to me [08:55] 1.2.0 makes the image failed to build [08:57] cjwatson: any news of the Plasma 5 ISO ? :) [08:57] shadeslayer: I sent you a message last night asking for a detail for that ... [08:58] ah yes, I just saw that, moment [08:58] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next [08:58] right, thanks, let me see [09:00] shadeslayer: which architectures? [09:00] cjwatson: amd64 and i386 please [09:02] ypwong: do you think this feature is essential? [09:02] PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Kylin Kylin Kylin Kylin Utopic Unicorn (development branch)" [09:02] That's from reinstalling the package a few times :) [09:02] shadeslayer: and this is a live CD format, and I can call it "kubuntu-plasma5"? [09:02] yep [09:03] shadeslayer: is there already a task or metapackage or something? where are the seeds? [09:04] seeds https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-plasma5.utopic [09:04] metapackage is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop [09:04] where can I find evidence from the lubuntu alternate build I just ran? [09:05] I don't see any output from it [09:05] link to dsc https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+files/kubuntu-plasma5-meta_1.0%7Eppa7.dsc [09:05] Laney: you running it directly on nusakan? [09:05] yeah [09:05] I am unsure if there's a task in there, checking [09:05] Laney: cdimage/log/lubuntu/utopic/ [09:05] shadeslayer: there won't be, but I'll use a metapackage [09:05] ok [09:05] cjwatson: right, no log there for today [09:05] only the primary archive gets tasks, so pretend I wasn't silly enough to mention that [09:05] Laney: command line? [09:06] cjwatson: we're using the kubuntu-live task + kubuntu-plasma5-desktop for building ISOs on our side [09:06] which has worked so far [09:06] for-project lubuntu cron.daily [09:06] shadeslayer: hm, don't like that [09:06] cjwatson: oh ? [09:06] shadeslayer: but I guess it will sort of work as long as you don't change the wrong things [09:06] shadeslayer: the kubuntu-live task is generated under the assumption that kubuntu-desktop is installed [09:06] ah I see [09:06] it's not actually strictly valid to use it without [09:06] but you might be close enough to get away with it [09:07] \o/ [09:08] so let me chase down the seventy gazillion things I need to tweak here [09:08] ^^ I can understand :D [09:08] ypwong: I'll unblock it on a "better than now" basis, but this should be revisited [09:09] laney: thanks, I'll ask happyaron to take a look at the bug you found [09:09] shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/kubuntu-plasma5 exists, livefs build logs will eventually show up there [09:09] \o/ [09:09] cjwatson: thanks alot! :D [09:10] wonder if I need to adjust extra_ppas for the new reference format [09:10] I guess we'll find out [09:11] oh wait [09:12] I was looking at the end, and all daily-live- logs are sorted after all daily- ones. [09:12] Missing debootstrap-required init [09:12] ah, I hadn't quite gone to look yet :) [09:12] huh, I thought that was being fixed [09:13] maybe priority [09:13] $ change-override -p optional -y init [09:13] Laney: try again after the next publisher run finishes [09:13] ta [09:13] (not the one currently in progress) [09:13] what happened here? [09:15] init was imported from Debian with the priority set in the package [09:16] debootstrap automatically adds anything with priority required/important [09:16] and debian-cd has a sanity check to make sure that everything wanted by debootstrap is actually on the image [09:18] ah right, was missing the last piece of knowledge [09:19] it doesn't come up often so it's a bit obscure [09:21] cjwatson: i dropped essential, but not required. [09:21] =/ [09:21] xnox: not within your power anyway, priorities are always overridden [09:21] once it's in the archive it doesn't much matter what the package says [09:21] right. [09:21] cjwatson: essential bit as well? [09:22] no that's up to the package [09:23] shadeslayer: what's a suitable display name for the flavour? just "Kubuntu Plasma 5"? [09:23] Riddell: ^^ [09:23] yep [10:18] cjwatson: all 7 gazillion things adjusted ? :D [10:19] sigh, patience [10:20] I'm working on it [10:21] but busy morning, preparing to go away [10:23] and needed to wait for my livecd-rootfs upload to migrate anyway [10:35] cjwatson: roger :) [10:35] cdimage stuff theoretically done [10:37] cjwatson: where are you off to for your vacation? [10:38] just 1.5 days in Birmingham [10:38] family [10:38] ah I see :) [10:48] come on publisher, give me livecd-rootfs in release so that I can try a test-build so that I can go on holiday [10:48] heh, i guess you need patience ... [10:48] yup [10:48] my lxc-android-config upload last night took ~3h [10:48] (from upload to archive) [10:49] the publisher is very slow at the moment because an important and large column in the Launchpad database is having to be widened to 64 bits [10:49] ah, i was suspecting the KDE overload ;) [10:49] no [10:49] it seems to have pushed the DB server over the edge of a performance cliff [10:49] ah, was wondering - I've been spamming rmadison for kylin [10:50] we've been waiting for new DB servers to be plugged in for a while now ... [10:51] Laney: it's there now [10:52] so it is [10:56] attempting to build kubuntu-plasma5 now, but scalingstack is actually a bit busy for once :) [10:56] this is attached to a virt PPA so it needs to be built on virt builders [10:56] so just as well scalingstack's been deployed since it wouldn't have worked on the old builders [10:57] (live-build and hardy weren't friends) [11:11] argh, timeout, seriously [11:19] shadeslayer: sorry, I think I'm stuck on a firewall issue, so will have to wait until early next week [11:19] alrighty [11:19] cjwatson: I'll continue using my hacked up orchrestration for ISO's till then [11:20] does the job decently well, even though ubiquity ends up on the final installation [11:20] hopefully it's mostly there on my side [11:20] it just needs to talk to the Launchpad API to fetch the signing key for your PPA, and I think that the scalingstack builders don't currently have firewall access for that [11:20] but no time to fix now before I leave [11:21] okie dokie [11:44] cjwatson: looks like the priority change wasn't enough [11:50] Laney: I think it just needed another publisher run or something. the cdimage mirror doesn't have the priority change [11:51] (gone) [11:52] where is the mirror? [11:52] (bye!) [11:53] oh, found it [12:57] ypwong: your images are up, testing welcome [12:58] Laney: yep, I have informed QA to do that [12:58] thanks === Pici` is now known as Pici [13:42] anyone have a clue why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kxmlgui/5.0.0-0ubuntu1/+build/6205249 doesn't build? [13:42] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktextwidgets/5.0.0-0ubuntu1 < seems to have built for armhf [13:46] shadeslayer: rmadison -S libkf5textwidgets-dev says it's not published for armhf. [13:48] shadeslayer: last archive publish was 11:56:42 UTC yesterday....which looks wrong. [13:48] .. [13:49] why does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel-proposed/Release says trusty-proposed ?! [13:51] build finished at 12:33, last armhf publish was at 13:07 should be there by now... [13:52] Riddell: you guys testing A2? [13:52] who does lubuntu these days? [13:59] Laney: yes, come across a bug with installing in !english that I spent some time looking at, will do the rest of the tests now [13:59] Laney: and I should appologise for grumping at you on ubuntu-release mailing list the other day, that was uncalled for [14:00] Riddell: did you? [14:01] oh if you didn't notice then never mind :) [14:01] :P [14:01] apology accepted anyway :-) [14:05] stgraber: how are the product owners set on the iso tracker? [14:05] thx xnox [14:06] I'm trying to find out what 'lubuntu release' maps to [14:06] because it's not ~lubuntu-release :-) [14:10] ~lubuntu-dev ? [14:11] Laney: lubuntu-product-managers [14:13] ty [14:13] wxl: it seems to be you [14:13] you guys organising testing of A2? [14:13] ah, I see some results now [14:46] stgraber: where are the alpha-2 release notes hiding these days? [14:46] Alpha-2 Cloud Images are affected by bug #1350522 [14:46] bug 1350522 in linux "EC2 kernel crash due to vmalloc" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350522 [14:47] Laney: ^ [14:48] stgraber: Didn't start any, where are the A1 ones? [14:48] I don't believe we had any, just an announcement and then some per-product ones [14:49] Yep, thought so [14:49] utlemming: Feel free to make UtopicUnicorn/Alpha2/UbuntuCloudImages or something and I'll link to it [14:49] Laney: ack === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods|lunch [15:30] seb128: if you have a minute ^ [15:32] didrocks, sure [15:33] thanks! [15:36] Kubuntu es bueno ↑ [15:36] sehr gut [15:49] * Laney cribs from A1's release announcement [15:51] wxl: Riddell: utlemming: ypwong: Let me know a link to include if you have one [15:51] Also if you want to change the text [15:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Alpha2/Kubuntu [15:52] cheers [15:53] Laney: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/utopic/alpha-2 will be the cloud image link [15:53] utlemming: ya, got that one, I meant a release notes type thing [15:54] Laney: oh, right.... [15:54] I just did s/1/2/ on the URLs basically === psivaa is now known as psivaa-bbl [16:16] ... ready when you are ... === psivaa-bbl is now known as psivaa === pete-woods|lunch is now known as pete-woods [16:45] utlemming: ypwong: wxl: I'm out for a bit, would appreciate you testing/readying [16:45] I'll be back in a few hours [16:47] Laney: I'm good to go [16:47] awesome [16:47] just waiting for lubuntu/kylin [16:56] Laney: are images done / no more respins? if that's the case, can you please lift the freeze? [17:20] Laney: sorry been a bit out of it due to rl issues. we've started testing on a2? [17:28] Laney: out of it as i said. i see that the release is scheduled to come out. we have full tests with no issues on desktop amd64/i386 but that's it. suggestions? [17:49] infinity: hi, maybe you can help me. I got an email saying that 12.04 has a swapcount=1 parameter in the kernel options and not in 14.04. Do you aware of it? Do you know why it was removed? [17:51] (if it was removed after all) [17:54] pfsmorigo_: I'm going to need more context than that. [17:54] pfsmorigo_: On the kernel commandline, in an fstab mount line, elsewhere? [17:55] pfsmorigo_: Anyhow, I see no such options being used on my 12.04 systems, so I'm not sure how we could have stopped using something we weren't using. [17:56] pfsmorigo_: Unless the argument is that the kernel stopped listening to that option when he supplies it himself? [17:56] infinity: I guy here complained... "Do you know why on Ubuntu 14.04, swapcount is disabled by default? It is enabled by default on 12.04." [17:57] infinity: seems that it was an option hat used to be set in grub.cfg and know isn't anymore [17:58] pfsmorigo_: No. [17:58] pfsmorigo_: It was never in grub.cfg [17:58] pfsmorigo_: A quick googling suggest that maybe he's trying to play with memory.memsw.* variables, which are only exposed in swapcount=1, which is new in newer kernels. [17:59] infinity: ok, good point [17:59] infinity: makes sense [18:00] pfsmorigo_: In which case, he probably just wants to add "swapcount=1" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub, run sudo update-grub and reboot. [18:00] infinity: yep, I suggested that [18:00] infinity: tks man === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [18:52] wxl: you can just release those if you want to [18:53] wxl: just mark those ones as ready [18:55] xnox: going to now, was hoping to hear back from the stragglers first [19:03] out for another couple of hours, hopefully will hear back from kylin then [19:03] wxl: I'll mark these two images as ready and you can just have an alpha with those [19:05] Laney: works thanks === ricmm_ is now known as ricmm [22:19] blerg [22:27] I'll wait until tomorrow morning for kylin on the basis that it'll still be Thursday somewhere ... [22:40] Laney, sorry for our delay. Expected to be done in half hour:)