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bazhang<ubuntu-studio> hi did u know how to make fake webcam in ubuntu?11:28
bazhangfake webcam?11:28
IdleOnenever heard of such a thing11:29
DJonesI've seen somebody ask that before, something about feeding a video file to an app rather than a webcam output11:32
ubottuIn ubottu, trijntje said: !dd is The Unix 'dd' command can manipulate files on a bit by bit basis. It is an extremely powerful tool, and has the ability to severely damage your system. Do not run any 'dd' commands you see online unless you fully understand them. When in doubt, please ask people in the channel to verify if a command containing 'dd' is safe to use.11:35
IdleOnethis needs a link to a decent wiki page.11:46
ikoniaprobably doesn't need anything11:48
ikoniaif you don't know what dd is - should you be using it ?11:48
IdleOneno11:48
cprofittyeah... no is the answer there11:58
cprofitteven if you do know what it is you had best be cautious11:58
ikoniaI don't think we need to put factoids for commands unless they are missleading in what they do11:59
ikoniaeg: dd is pretty clear about what it is, and it's syntax is not one you can "oops"11:59
cprofittikonia: I would agree with not needing a factoid for that stuff... no information is better than a small tid-bit12:00
ikoniaI'm sure there are some commands that miss-lead the users in their function, I can't think of one12:00
cprofittare you guys cleaning up factoids?12:00
ikoniaeg: copydisk = I'll copy the disk but wipe the source12:00
ikoniabut that's not a real example12:00
* cprofitt nods12:00
IdleOneI think trijntje saw some something that he thought could use a little extra warning and offered it. No harm no foul.12:01
cprofittyeah -- I don't think factoids for those things are harmful (unless they slow down ubutto)12:01
ikoniaI don't think they are good12:02
ikoniaas everytime someone says "I'm using dd....."12:02
ikoniayou'll get !dd12:02
IdleOnetrue12:02
ikoniawhere is the bottom line is you should have an idea what you are doing12:02
ikoniait requires sudo access to do damage12:02
ikoniaso you "should" have done some sort of basic thought before typing the command12:02
IdleOnehah, that is assuming people think before pasting random commands12:03
ikoniathats their problem to be honest12:03
ikoniaif you blindly cut and paste - no !dd warning or "!rm warning is going to save you12:03
IdleOnebut I agree with you. dd is one of those commands that anyone who doesn't know how to use it they should automatically ask themselves, what am I about to do here!?12:04
IdleOneI remember thinking to myself the first time I saw a dd command that it looked like some hacker stuff I was way out of my league to be using.12:05
cprofittIdleOne: lol... most humans see a command line and think it is hacker stuff12:08
cprofittdd was one of the first command line things I did with Linux... but I was in to digital forensics... so not the usual user.12:08
phunyguylol I know all to well the "oops" that can happen with dd.15:33
rwwlol15:33
phunyguythat partition was toast.15:33
phunyguytoo*15:34
Priceyphunyguy: There's a "fix disk" utility you can use to recover afterwards, fdisk something, I'll just figure out the options you'd want...15:53
phunyguyPricey: that stuff is long gone.  This was last year16:48
rwwi think that was a joke, phunyguy :P18:03
phunyguystop making fun of me :(18:03
IdleOnethat's no fun at all18:08
rwwscumdogmoney (in #ubuntu now) = lastdich (kicked out of -ot yesterday) = ivwanty (same)18:30
ikoniawhy persist with these idiots ?18:33
rwwbecause I prefer giving occasional chances over banning for first offenses, not catalyzing, and then leaving bans set for months18:34
ikoniaI don't disagree with giving people chances18:34
ikoniabut entering a support channel and trying to talk about drugs18:34
ikoniaafter being kicked from the offtopic channel for something which I cn only guess was the same topic18:34
ikoniajust seems pointless when they seem to know what they are doing doen't fit with the channl18:35
rwwhe's since left #ubuntu without further incident, and I don't ban cross-channel18:35
ikoniaI'm not suggesting you do ban cross channel ?18:36
rww'course he's now in #ubuntu-offtopic and PMing tensorpudding, so we'll see how that goes18:36
h00kscumdogmoney querying me too18:39
rwwh00k: problematic topic, or...?18:39
h00khttp://pastie.org/private/yxebhjvft2ixy8fmjbbzq18:40
h00klike a dis18:40
h00kwho wants to swing.18:40
rwwfun times18:40
rwwi'll do it18:40
h00klet er rip18:40
bazhangubottu, random hurd kfreebsd18:41
ubottukfreebsd18:41
ubottubazhang: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:41
bazhangawww18:41
PriceyThanks rww.20:52

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