| Kilos | hi captine bushtech inetpro and others | 05:50 |
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| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 05:50 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:09 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: figured out what was wrong with my sorting tube | 06:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the side that comes FROM the quarry must be set "Off", otherwise it is also considered a valid direction for stuff to go in | 06:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i wouldn't have expected that, but now i know | 06:13 |
| Kilos | aha | 06:14 |
| mazal | ugh , looks like gonna have to drag a broken server to PTA today :( | 06:43 |
| mazal | Microsoft &^$^&$ | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:50 |
| Kilos | i go sort sheep | 06:50 |
| mazal | Cheers for now everyone | 06:54 |
| charl | guten morgen | 07:15 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:15 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:15 | |
| charl | hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy, Spekko | 07:15 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hey charl | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 07:23 |
| Kilos | spekko too | 07:23 |
| * Kilos cries | 07:34 | |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/107260-50tb-of-free-adsl-data-for-each-user.html | 07:34 |
| Kilos | oh i wanted to ask, does running something like minetest use more data if fullscreen is used not the small window from default | 07:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no | 07:37 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 07:44 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:28 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 08:28 |
| nuvolari | hrrrr! :-/ | 12:13 |
| * nuvolari snipes Chrome on Mac | 12:13 | |
| nuvolari | Chrome on Mac won't let AngularJS play with it | 12:14 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , have a nice weekend | 12:44 |
| charl | anyone using bittorrent bleep ? | 14:10 |
| bduk | Afternoon everyone | 14:15 |
| charl | hi bduk | 14:16 |
| Symmetria | hahaha I love my company | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | our noc (typical of all nocs) lets lotsa crap slide | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | my house power goes down for a few minutes | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | and I see this appear in the ticketting system | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | FAULT SEVERITY: MAJOR | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | SERVICE AFFECTING | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | IMPACT DESCRIPTION: | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | ANDREW_ALSTON switch down | 15:00 |
| Symmetria | HAHAHAH | 15:00 |
| charl | hi Symmetria | 15:01 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 16:34 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 16:34 |
| smile | hi :p | 16:37 |
| charl | hi smile | 16:43 |
| smile | :D | 16:43 |
| charl | how's the weather, warm there too ? | 16:45 |
| charl | it's quite nice outside but too warm inside | 16:46 |
| charl | hi psychicist | 16:50 |
| psychicist | hi charl | 16:50 |
| charl | how's it going | 16:51 |
| psychicist | I am doing well, thanks | 16:53 |
| psychicist | how are you doing? | 16:53 |
| charl | i'm good thanks | 16:53 |
| psychicist | I have been thinking of moving back to the Netherlands | 16:54 |
| psychicist | but I still don't know, it depends on the situation at my current job and if I can get another position in a few months | 16:55 |
| charl | hmmm | 16:57 |
| charl | slowly the economy is picking up here now | 16:57 |
| charl | we came out of a bad few years in the job market | 16:57 |
| charl | i myself am considering moving to germany | 16:58 |
| charl | i'm going on holiday in a week, want to do some touring and check out some nice places to live | 16:59 |
| psychicist | yeah, that's a good idea | 17:00 |
| psychicist | well, I got some offers in Germany and Poland | 17:00 |
| psychicist | for programming jobs | 17:00 |
| psychicist | but I feel I lack knowledge for them | 17:00 |
| charl | ah | 17:01 |
| charl | well that's what i'm going for, programming | 17:01 |
| psychicist | those job ads are always a bit intimidating in terms of requirements | 17:01 |
| charl | i know, i have that too | 17:01 |
| inetpro | goeienaand | 17:01 |
| charl | i ignore it, there are always one or two things that i don't have experience with either | 17:01 |
| psychicist | goedenavond inetpro | 17:01 |
| charl | but i find that rarely holds you back in practice | 17:01 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 17:01 |
| psychicist | ok | 17:01 |
| psychicist | I mean I know Java, C/C++ and some x86 and MIPS assembly | 17:02 |
| psychicist | but there is always something else that they want you to know so it becomes a bit of a daunting task to keep up with it all | 17:02 |
| charl | it is all about practical experience working in a development team though | 17:02 |
| charl | companies might hire you not only for your technical skill but also your so-called "soft skills" | 17:03 |
| psychicist | that's what I think too and I don't really have that so how should I get it? | 17:03 |
| charl | things like teamwork ability, communication ability, etc | 17:03 |
| psychicist | I have very good soft skills | 17:03 |
| charl | yeah i took a job as a junior developer a long time ago | 17:03 |
| charl | and then just worked my way up | 17:03 |
| charl | but the first job is the hardest | 17:03 |
| psychicist | and I really don't feel like staying in support for much longer | 17:04 |
| charl | maybe you could even work on some open source projects in your free time | 17:04 |
| psychicist | yes | 17:04 |
| charl | yeah support you quickly outgrow | 17:04 |
| psychicist | especially if I have been programming most of my adult life but just don't have a degree yet | 17:04 |
| charl | yeah there is a very big fixation on hbo level education in NL and from what i've heard in DE as well | 17:05 |
| charl | practically any job says minimum required hbo level | 17:05 |
| psychicist | yes | 17:05 |
| psychicist | well, I went to Delft but just couldn't continue | 17:05 |
| charl | doesn't mean to say you can do your job | 17:05 |
| psychicist | yeah | 17:06 |
| charl | i mean i see some people i worked with in the past, good people but didn't have a clue about practical software development | 17:06 |
| psychicist | even during the physics curriculum we learned to program Pascal, MIPS and M68K assembly and things like Matlab/Maple etc. | 17:06 |
| charl | all hbo people, just lack the practical experience | 17:06 |
| psychicist | I see | 17:06 |
| charl | ah matlab | 17:06 |
| charl | or you get some real autists, they might be technically brilliant but completely lack the feeling for people | 17:07 |
| charl | maybe they are not real autists but that's what we call them where i work | 17:07 |
| charl | we have a few of them :) | 17:07 |
| psychicist | :) | 17:07 |
| charl | fortunately not in our department though | 17:07 |
| psychicist | I have noticed more of those in CS curricula indeed :) | 17:07 |
| psychicist | or maybe in engineering in general | 17:08 |
| charl | yes | 17:08 |
| charl | speaking about delft, they do a lot of robotics stuff there | 17:10 |
| charl | or was that eindhoven | 17:10 |
| charl | http://www.robotics.tudelft.nl/ | 17:11 |
| charl | ah this was eindhoven http://tweakers.net/video/8663/roboearth-een-internet-voor-robots.html | 17:12 |
| charl | this is also pretty cool, haven't seen this before http://tweakers.net/nieuws/93210/tu-delft-bouwt-autonoom-vliegende-robotlibelle-delfly-explorer.html | 17:13 |
| psychicist | yeah | 17:13 |
| psychicist | I wish I had the money to go back and study there | 17:14 |
| charl | yes me too ! | 17:14 |
| psychicist | :) | 17:14 |
| psychicist | but I'll see if I can get a job and do CS at open university and then move to some place where I can work on cool stuff | 17:15 |
| charl | ah there is always open university as well yes | 17:15 |
| charl | i am now starting to think i should further my studies | 17:15 |
| charl | especially into hardware and electronics | 17:15 |
| charl | i did my previous qualifications in software only | 17:16 |
| charl | only electronics experience i have is breadboarding as a kid | 17:16 |
| psychicist | ah, I like hardware and electronics too | 17:16 |
| charl | but i really want to go and do something cool now | 17:17 |
| charl | i'm bored of just writing more web applications etc | 17:17 |
| charl | been doing it for too long, want to go and do something cool now | 17:17 |
| psychicist | I understand | 17:18 |
| psychicist | I don't know that much about web programming really | 17:18 |
| charl | my ultimate job would be to build the software for advanced home automation | 17:25 |
| charl | but i don't know where even to apply for a job in that direction | 17:25 |
| charl | afaik there isn't much money in that at the moment | 17:25 |
| psychicist | that's what I think too | 17:25 |
| charl | it doens't have to be a full-out AI but something into that direction would be cool | 17:26 |
| psychicist | I would love to go back to my applied physics and computer engineering studies and think of all kinds of crazy stuff | 17:26 |
| psychicist | yes, I feel current systems are still far too primitive | 17:26 |
| charl | in some places i feel we've made a lot of progress over the last 10 years | 17:27 |
| charl | we have really powerful and low-cost low-power computers now | 17:27 |
| charl | but we don't yet have the right software to run on it | 17:27 |
| psychicist | that is true | 17:27 |
| charl | what the software can do is just too limiting | 17:27 |
| charl | and let's face it most mobile interfaces suck | 17:27 |
| psychicist | but who is going to rethink/reinvent the entire software stack? | 17:28 |
| charl | besides, a phone is not going to do the dishes and make the coffee | 17:28 |
| charl | you don't really have to reinvent the wheel, you just need to build on top of what's already there | 17:28 |
| charl | but what's already there is also somewhat limiting still | 17:29 |
| psychicist | but it may be able to control those devices using whatever softwareor firmware runs on them | 17:29 |
| psychicist | software or* | 17:29 |
| charl | ah yeah of course, well i was thinking along the lines of full out domestic robots | 17:29 |
| charl | but with most devices you also have closed source firmware which is just plain evil | 17:30 |
| psychicist | that do everything related to the household for you? | 17:30 |
| charl | well, at lot of stuff at least | 17:30 |
| psychicist | yes, that's the current situation | 17:30 |
| charl | at the moment i only have a robot vacuming my floor | 17:30 |
| psychicist | wow, really? | 17:30 |
| psychicist | at home? | 17:30 |
| charl | standard roomba | 17:30 |
| charl | yes | 17:30 |
| charl | had it for almost a year now | 17:30 |
| psychicist | and how does it work? | 17:30 |
| charl | awesome :) | 17:30 |
| psychicist | :D | 17:30 |
| charl | probably does a better clean than what i can do myself | 17:31 |
| charl | it's thin so it gets in under the tables, chairs, etc | 17:31 |
| charl | and it has a brush which cleans the sides nicely against the wall | 17:31 |
| psychicist | that's quite advanced then | 17:31 |
| charl | it's pretty decent but admittedly robot vacume cleaners have been around for a while | 17:32 |
| charl | and it isn't that hard a thing to program | 17:32 |
| psychicist | what would be harder to program? | 17:32 |
| psychicist | we are just in the beginning stages, though | 17:33 |
| psychicist | and it's a good start, I think | 17:33 |
| charl | natural language processing etc is always quite tough but not that bad if you limit what can be processed to simple commands | 17:33 |
| charl | but yeah a full out maid robot that would do all the house chores would be great | 17:33 |
| psychicist | I would also be very interested in that aspect, also considering the fact that I speak so many languages and also learn new ones pretty fast | 17:34 |
| psychicist | haha | 17:34 |
| psychicist | so maybe a robot that could replace your wife or girlfriend wouldn't be too bad either | 17:34 |
| charl | nah you see that's the plan | 17:35 |
| charl | then my wife/girlfriend is there only for me :D | 17:36 |
| charl | hi cocooncrash | 17:36 |
| psychicist | :D | 17:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo peeps | 18:47 |
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