[00:01] <Bashing-om> !ask | zacwalls
[00:02] <guzzi_jones> md0 is sda1 and sdb1 nieither of which have the bootable flag set.  i think i could just go into gparted and set that?
[00:03] <guzzi_jones> then uncheck the bootable falg for sda2 and sdb2 for md1 which is my original install
[00:03] <guzzi_jones> i thought i could set bootable on md0 and md1, but it won't allow that in gparted.
[00:05] <_TJ_> guzzi_jones: did you clone the md arrays, or create the new one fresh using "mdadm --create ..." ?
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> it was an array that was created on installation.
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> it used to be swap
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> i reformated it to ext4
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> on copied over from md1 to md0 preserving permissions
[00:25] <alfonsojon> Hi, it seems Ubuntu 14.04 is running much slower in VirtualBox than it did in 12.04
[00:26] <alfonsojon> I have 3D acceleration enabled and 2048MB RAM allocated to it, yet it still takes over three minutes to boot.
[00:26] <alfonsojon> Any suggestions?
[00:26] <rick68> does anyone know how to remove these printer desklets from the desktop?
[00:26] <Sachiru> Did you install guest additions for 14.04?
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Sachiru: Yes.
[00:27] <Sachiru> Also is 14.04 a clean install?
[00:27] <Sachiru> Or an in-place upgrade?
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Clean install.
[00:27] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: OK, so you don't have clashing MD GUIDs, so changing fstab and doing "update-grub" should be sufficient
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Host system is Elementary OS Luna (based on Precise), but I don't think that should matter much.
[00:28] <koell> Hod do I enable 256 colors in xterm? I already have the export xterm-256colors in my settings
[00:28] <rick68> how did you get 2G of ram, i thought 256M was the limit
[00:28] <alfonsojon> rick68: this is not 1994 ;)
[00:28] <rick68> for virtualbox
[00:28] <alfonsojon> Oh.
[00:28] <alfonsojon> It depends on the amount of RAM available to the host system
[00:28] <ObrienDave> that would be 1995 ;P
[00:28] <alfonsojon> I have 8GB RAM, so I can give it up to 6 GB safely, but it doesn't need that much
[00:29] <alfonsojon> Plus, I have the 32 bit version, so anything above 4GB wouldn't matter anyways
[00:29] <rick68> guess i havent used it in a while
[00:29] <alfonsojon> well, nevermind
[00:29] <alfonsojon> PAE fixes that
[00:30] <rick68> o wait, im thinking of gpu
[00:30] <alfonsojon> rick68: ah
[00:30] <rick68> thats still the limit, right?
[00:30] <alfonsojon> Yeah.
[00:30] <rick68> too bad
[00:30] <alfonsojon> It can go higher, but you need to give it something like 6 monitors
[00:31] <alfonsojon> lol
[00:31] <rick68> woah
[00:31] <alfonsojon> right now, I'm using it with dual monitor
[00:31] <alfonsojon> pretty neat
[00:31] <alfonsojon> if it weren't slow as molasses fresh out of the freezer
[00:32] <rick68> i used to run androidx86 on it, and 256 was not enough
[00:32] <alfonsojon> really?
[00:32] <TJ-> alfonsojon: probably because with 12.04 there was an option of "unity-2d" for non opengl hardware accelerated systems, but with 14.04 there is no such fall-back option?
[00:33] <rick68> so do you get 256 for each monitor?
[00:33] <alfonsojon> rick68: unfortunately not
[00:33] <TJ-> alfonsojon: Also, by "boot" do you to reach the logged-in user's desktop, or to reach the greeter?
[00:33] <alfonsojon> TJ-: Boot sequence is extremely slow, lightdm is slow (takes seconds to load), session is even slower (takes around 30 - 45 seconds to load gnome-session-flashback)
[00:34] <alfonsojon> using metacity, not compiz
[00:34] <alfonsojon> meaning it shouldn't be affected by opengl
[00:34] <TJ-> alfonsojon: is the underlying VM image a file, or a host block device (e.g. an LV) ?
[00:34] <rick68> so i got to admit, im still kind of green to linux, whats the best distro for handling video?
[00:34] <rick68> or does it matter
[00:34] <TJ-> alfonsojon: I'd boot it in Recovery mode and/or examine the dmesg and kern.log files
[00:35] <alfonsojon> rick68: not really
[00:35] <rick68> nice
[00:35] <alfonsojon> rick68: just get something based on debian or fedora, the others out there may not work with the software
[00:36] <rick68> ya i started with ubuntu, but liked the eye candy of kde, so i switched to kubuntu
[00:37] <alfonsojon> TJ-: It looks like I can get a speed boost by allocating the full storage rather than dynamically expanding it
[00:37] <guzzi_jones> TJ- thanks yes it looks like i need to just set the boot flag on the corresponding sdb1 and sda1 and undo sda2 and sdb2
[00:38] <alfonsojon> Not a fair comparison, but Windows XP boots in around 15 seconds in VirtualBox.
[00:38] <alfonsojon> Whereas Ubuntu takes around three minutes to reach the desktop
[00:38] <alfonsojon> (14.04)
[00:38] <rick68> so does anyone know hot to remove these printer desklets? (i think thats what theyre called)
[00:39] <alfonsojon> rick68: what distribution?
[00:39] <rick68> kubuntu
[00:39] <alfonsojon> on the desktop or taskbar?
[00:39] <rick68> desktop
[00:39] <alfonsojon> you should be able to hover it, then a little drawer will slide out
[00:39] <rick68> they magically appeared
[00:39] <alfonsojon> click the "X" on the drawer
[00:39] <rick68> nope
[00:39] <alfonsojon> do you see a little button in the top right?
[00:39] <rick68> no drawer
[00:39] <alfonsojon> kind of looks like a cashew?
[00:40] <rick68> i know what youre talking about
[00:40] <alfonsojon> alright, do you have that button or no?
[00:40] <WACOMalt> hey folks. I am looking for how to manually add a public GPG key for a repo I added
[00:40] <rick68> oh the one that says desktop
[00:40] <WACOMalt> I think the Release.gpg in this folder is what I need to add http://archive.zentyal.org/zentyal/dists/3.5/
[00:42] <rick68> alfonsojon yes i do
[00:42] <alfonsojon> WACOMalt: Not sure, sorry.
[00:42] <alfonsojon> rick68: click that
[00:42] <alfonsojon> then the drawers should (not sure, not a kubuntu user) appear
[00:42] <rick68> ooooh
[00:42] <rick68> let me try
[00:43] <rick68> alfonsojon nope, just a drop down menu
[00:43] <alfonsojon> what are the options?
[00:43] <rick68> alfonsojon and its the same menu as a right click
[00:43] <alfonsojon> oh.
[00:43] <alfonsojon> hmm
[00:43] <alfonsojon> I'm not sure then, sorry.
[00:44] <alfonsojon> I haven't used Kubuntu in a few months, I switched to Elementary.
[00:44] <alfonsojon> Sorry :(
[00:44] <rick68> np thanks anyways
[00:44] <rick68> whats that
[00:45] <alfonsojon> It's another distro based on Ubuntu 12.04
[00:45] <rick68> looking at it now....nice
[00:45] <alfonsojon> It looks snazzy.
[00:45] <alfonsojon> And it's fast.
[00:46] <rick68> any tearing issues on video?
[00:46] <alfonsojon> nope
[00:46] <rick68> that took a while to fix
[00:46] <alfonsojon> well, none that I know of
[00:46] <rick68> nvidia card?
[00:46] <rick68> with nvidia drivers?
[00:46] <alfonsojon> Yep
[00:46] <alfonsojon> nvidia-331 + GTX 550 Ti
[00:47] <rick68> haha
[00:47] <rick68> same one
[00:47] <alfonsojon> ah
[00:47] <alfonsojon> I get tearing in some games though
[00:47] <rick68> i found a way to disable effects on full screnn video, it helped
[00:48] <rick68> does it have the same eye candy that kde has?
[00:48] <rick68> i love this magic lamp
[00:48] <alfonsojon> not really
[00:48] <alfonsojon> Elementary is more professional-looking
[00:48] <rick68> ah
[00:49] <alfonsojon> Be back shortly, walking the dog
[00:57] <jellow> Hi I cannot use down arrow keys, When I press down arrow key a notification appears here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/FuK6yFq. Thanks
[00:58] <jellow> I don't think ctrl works either
[00:59] <daftykins> looks like your down arrow key is enacting the 'disable touchpad' function
[00:59] <rick68> jellow doesnt that mean your trackpad is not enabled <-guessing
[01:00] <alfonsojon> jellow: it seems your FN key is toggled on for some reason
[01:01] <rick68> i would almost try your hotkey settings
[01:01] <daftykins> ^no an Fn combo would be very unlikely to be placed on cursor down
[01:03] <rick68> alfonsojon thanks for that distro, btw
[01:03] <rick68> i think that might be waht im looking for for my office pc
[01:04] <rick68> i was looking at mint as a possibility
[01:04] <Guest78040> hi im having an issue setting up multiple monitors . . . i recompiled a kernel as instructed and now the monitors are detected in arandr but i get the following error when i hit enable:
[01:05] <Guest78040> XRandR returned error code 1: xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
[01:06] <Guest78040> where can i see where it failed?  That message is not very details
[01:08] <rick68> Guest78040 i had a bunch of multiple monitor problems, what worked for me was a fresh install with both monitors connected, i know it sounds bad, but it worked
[01:08] <rick68> i had a problem dragging windows from one to the other
[01:09] <Guest78040> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/358
[01:09] <Guest78040> i followed this wiki on mine
[01:10] <rick68> sorry, above my head
[01:11] <jellow> My right arrow is mapped to keycode 156 XF86Launch1 and down arrow is mapped to keycode 21 XF86TouchpadOff , Is there a gui to help remap keys?
[01:12] <rick68> jellow on kubuntu theres a system setting for shortcuts and gestures, dont remember if i saw it on ubuntu
[01:16] <guzzi_jones> well i got the sda2 and sdb2 to have the boot flag but how do i set the boot flag on a software raid device?
[01:17] <daftykins> what was your issue and what are you trying to achieve?
[01:17] <rick68> night everyon
[01:18] <OERIAS> good night rick68 switch over to Debian
[01:19] <daftykins> troll alert
[01:19] <guzzi_jones> i suppose i could load up the ubuntu-server installation iso and set it in there?
[01:19] <daftykins> guzzi_jones: got a desktop liveCD handy?
[01:21] <guzzi_jones> daftykins - yes i do
[01:22] <daftykins> guzzi_jones: use a disk partitioner in that
[01:22] <daftykins> you didn't really state the general challenge though so i can't be sure that's apt
[01:22] <guzzi_jones> i tried gparted.  it won't see both md0 and md1 raid devices
[01:22] <guzzi_jones> it only sees the physical devices and then the NON boot raid device
[01:23] <daftykins> how rude, some CLI tools might be more relevant then
[01:23] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: did you ensure both MD devices are assembled ("cat /proc/mdstat") ?
[01:24] <guzzi_jones> no.  i quit for the night.  the device it did see md0p1 or some wierd naming convention was the device i wanted to set boot on, but i went to manage flags it just said "flags"
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> like the programmer didn't get to that part of the code
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> :?
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> :/
[01:26] <guzzi_jones> thanks for all your help.
[01:27] <guzzi_jones> it seems to be impossible to change to boot flags on software riad drives.  I will try this weekend with the ubuntu-server cd.  maybe i can do it through that.
[01:28] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: md0p1 is partition 1 on /dev/md0
[01:29] <guzzi_jones> ahh ok that makes sense
[01:29] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: why couldn't it see md1p1 then?
[01:30] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: if the md devices aren't whole-disks they don't contain partition tables, so there is no boot flag to set
[01:31] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: and if the md devices are whole-disks, and are hosted in partitions, then the boot flags are in the partition table(s) of the two underlying whole disks
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> ok so i went and changed the boot flags to the smaller disks sda1 and sdb1 which are part of md0
[01:32] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: If mdadm hadn't assembled md1 there would be no partitions to find.
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> i then restarted.
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> and it still booted to md1
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> oh ok so check to see that md1 is assembled
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> still doesn't explain how i changed the boot flags and it booted to the wrong partition?
[01:33] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: how do you mean "booted to" ? you mean the root file-system was mounted via /dev/md1 ?
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> boot flag was set on sda1 and sdb1 ....
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> these are part of md0
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> ..
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> md0 contained an exact copy of my os.
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> from md1
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> i edited fstab and grub to use md0 UUId
[01:35] <guzzi_jones> i rebooted
[01:35] <guzzi_jones> df -h returned file size of md1 NOT md0
[01:35] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: the boot-flag in the partition table has nothing to do with which file-system is used as root. To set the root file-system requires the grub configuration to be updated so it writes a revised /boot/grub/grub.cfg which uses the UUID of the replacement root file-system
[01:36] <guzzi_jones> ok.  so on md1 i have a grub.cfg with UUID for md1
[01:36] <guzzi_jones> on md0 i have a grub.cfg with UUID for md0
[01:36] <Church> guzzi: do i understand right that you simply want to increase size of root fs that is placed on md mirror on partitions?
[01:37] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: and have you "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb" to update grub's core.img so it knows which File-system contains /boot/ ?
[01:37] <guzzi_jones> i want to transfer my OS from md1 to md0
[01:37] <Church> do you have separate /boot ?
[01:38] <guzzi_jones> i did not do grub-install
[01:38] <guzzi_jones> i do not have separate boot
[01:40] <guzzi_jones> what is core.img?
[01:40] <Church> btw, for future setup of mirrored server fs layout on two disks i'd suggest doing it this way: md0 mirror of 512MB partition0 on both disks with /boot on it, then md1 mirror of both disks partition1 (on all the rest disk capacity) on which then use LVM to dynamically change diskspace allocation as you need.
[01:40] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: BIOS > valid boot disk (sector 0, offset 254=0x55AA) ? > read sector #0 and write to address 7C00 (this is GRUB MBR boot-strap) > MBR uses BIOS to read core.img from sector #1 onwards, which is the grub core.img > core.img 'mounts' the grub root (fiile-system containing /boot/grub/), reads grub.cfg, loads modules, does "normal" and displays the GRUB menu
[01:41] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: So this may be down to the hard disk you've got selected in BIOS boot order *if* you did "grub-install /dev/sdb" but not also "grub-install /dev/sda", for example
[01:41] <cliff1245> Hello Everyone, I am trying to get a Ubuntu Server 12.04 network up and running. It is a new build. It is installed as a VM on ESXi on a server.  The ESXi server is also running pfsense inline as my firewall. I wanted to connect the Ubuntu server to my LAN side of the firewall. Everytime I run if Config, the eth0 doesn't show a IP address or a gateway as if it's not getting an address from the dhcp server.  The primary network inter
[01:42] <TJ-> Church: I simply RAID1 the entire disks, much easier
[01:42] <daftykins> cliff1245: you got cut off at 'The primary network inter...'
[01:43] <cliff1245> The primary network interface in the /etc/network/interfaces file says "auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp" If my understanding is correct, I should be requesting my IP address from the DHCP server, is that correct? I have pfsense also running as a DHCP server. It is connected to a linksys switch/router that this machine that I'm using is connected to, so It should be working. Any suggestions as to how to get my ubuntu server connected 
[01:43] <Church> TJ: LVM gives much much better flexibility .. with enabling doing most of needed reconfiguring later on online
[01:43] <raul782> Hi guys, what is the difference between ln -s and ln -nfs ?
[01:44] <daftykins> cliff1245: it obviously isn't attached to the right interface DHCP is running on
[01:44] <daftykins> cliff1245: you do see an interface yes?
[01:44] <Church> raul782: i'm too lazy to read manpage, but all i ever needed is to use -s or without it for ln, to make soft or hard links that is.
[01:44] <cliff1245> yes
[01:45] <raul782> I normally use ln -s, but when using capistrano I c they use ln -nfs
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: why would i do grub install /dev/sdb?  and grub-install /dev/sda?
[01:45] <raul782> f as force that I understand
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> each of those have two partitions.
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> does that write the bootable drive to the mbr?
[01:45] <Church> TJ: and according to setup above which i employ everywhere, i simply drop MD usage, if there is HW raid or it's LUN from already raid-ed SAN. LVM simply imho is must have tool for any sysadmin
[01:45] <raul782> I guess the ln  -n option is the one I don't understand completely
[01:46] <cliff1245> root
[01:46] <cliff1245> boy am I glad I didn't enter in my password!
[01:47] <guzzi_jones> Church: yes i am going to a smaller parition so i can eventually go to lvm
[01:47] <guzzi_jones> Church: i am attempting to use my swap space as a temp area.
[01:47] <cliff1245> daftykins: thanks, I just realized I never rebooted after connecting the lan. :(
[01:48] <daftykins> cliff1245: whoops!
[01:48] <daftykins> cliff1245: fwiw though a server should never be DHCP
[01:49] <cliff1245> daftykins: how would you set the server up?
[01:49] <Church> guzzi_jones: btw, to that "ideal" setup of mine only one correction. It's best to start "small", as it's always easy to grow size, but much more hassle to reduce.
[01:49] <cliff1245> go into /etc/network/interfaces and change auto to static?
[01:49] <cliff1245> sorry, not auto, i meant dhcp
[01:49] <daftykins> cliff1245: yep then specify address, netmask, gateway - then remove resolvconf and hardcode DNS into /etc/resolv.conf
[01:52] <guzzi_jones> ok so i am reading on grub-install
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> "This will rewrite the MBR information to point to the current installation and rewrite some GRUB 2 files"
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> so...
[01:53] <Beldar> what
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> if i mount my NEW md0 at /media/new/
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /proc /media/new/proc
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /sys /media/new/sys
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /dev /media/new/dev
[01:54] <hopesiner> hello all!
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> chroot /media/new
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> then run grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: ??
[01:54] <TJ-> sorry was making drinks ... Church I put md raid1 in first, then LVM
[01:55] <guzzi_jones> then i am "IN" my new system
[01:55] <tmTim> I am wondering why my router model number is showing at the end of my local hostname when I commit to git. any ideas?
[01:55] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: no, you want "mount --rbind /dev /media/new/dev" because you need the devpts at /dev/pts too
[01:55] <Beldar> TJ-, Can we order one?
[01:55] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: Drinks.. i need one.
[01:55] <tmTim> like tim@host.add2113213
[01:55]  * TJ- DCCs a coffee to Beldar
[01:56] <Beldar> mmmm caffeine
[01:56] <daftykins> i'd say me too but it's 3am
[01:57] <hopesiner> i have a quick question, im looking at installing ubuntu on my old xp machine what i was using it for netflix but as support has ended for xp... i know pipelight doesn't work anymore towards netflix and chrome but is there another way?
[01:58] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: ok thanks.  i took some notes.  i will try that Sat.
[01:58] <Beldar> hopesiner, Ubuntu has a bit more draw on the hardware you sure it's what you need?
[01:58] <TJ-> daftykins: indeed it is... I promised myself early night at 10pm :p
[01:59] <daftykins> :D
[01:59] <Beldar> hopesiner, Both OS use the same repos
[02:00] <hopesiner> Beldar... i ran ubuntu with unity about a year or two ago then re-purposed it as a netflix device which xp was easier and the intel graphics are not supported for vista or 7
[02:01] <Beldar> hopesiner, Just trying to understand your end goal here, can you say it without the history?
[02:01] <hopesiner> beldar, ok sorry
[02:01] <Church> TJ-: of course LVM on MD raid if there is no HW raid beneath. But i avoid using plain partitions with just MD raid. In my sysadmin experience needed to reconfigure layout way too often to NOT use LVM.
[02:02] <TJ-> Church: Agreed entirely, /boot/ on a RAID1 primary partition, the rest LVM
[02:02] <hopesiner> Beldar, is it still possible iv heard theirs a netflix desktop app?
[02:02] <Beldar> hopesiner, The netflix ppa is releasing up to utopic
[02:03] <Beldar> hopesiner, I thought that was the only netflix  choice, were you using wine?
[02:04] <Beldar> that is the netflix desktop so to speak
[02:05] <hopesiner> Beldar, ahhh ok just wanted to make sure before doing anything to the desktop thank you!
[02:05] <hopesiner> :)
[02:05] <Beldar> hopesiner, no prob there are eol upgrades as well, if you need.
[02:06] <laspahr> ##dance
[02:06] <laspahr> oops
[02:07] <Beldar> laspahr, making your own channel
[02:08] <laspahr> nah I already have one, I was seeing if there was one heh..
[02:08] <Beldar> !alis | laspahr
[02:08] <laspahr> ah
[02:14] <sydney> Hi,i am running into this issue when i backup. dejadup says i dont have the permissions to back up a certain file,and i dont know what to do. :(
[02:14] <Beldar> sydney, Root files?
[02:14] <Beldar> what is the file in other words?
[02:15] <sydney> yes,in the home directory. :s /home/sydney/.cache/dconf
[02:15] <somsip> sydney: everything in there should be owned and grouped for the user. Is it?
[02:16] <sydney> everything except that one file :s
[02:16] <somsip> sydney: what is the file name?
[02:17] <Eric^^> the folder dconf is owned by root
[02:17] <sydney> dconf
[02:17] <sydney> But why is it in my home directory!!??
[02:18] <yoda_> question what is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server downloads there is also ubuntu cloud
[02:18] <somsip> sydney: I've got it in .config too, and it's owned and grouped for the user. I'd say fix it
[02:18] <yoda_> in terms of packages or what the look and feel is
[02:18] <TJ-> yoda_: different collection of packages on the install image, different installation result
[02:18] <sydney> somsip: how?
[02:18] <Beldar> yoda_, One has a desktop one does not
[02:19] <TJ-> yoda_: cloud image doesn't need a lot of different support for varying hardware since it is targeted at virtual machines
[02:19] <Beldar> basically
[02:19] <flepine> sudo chown -R sydney:sydney /home/sydney/
[02:19] <somsip> sydney: chown -R sydney:sydney ~/.config/dconf (replace sydney with your real username)
[02:19] <TJ-> yoda_: server has the typical server packages, and can handle more complex disk organisation
[02:19] <sydney> somsip: sydney is my real user name :P
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: sorry, put a sudo on that and make it /home/user/sydney..etc
[02:20] <sydney> somsip: in other words,it will delete the file?
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: no, it makes it owned and grouped for the sydney user
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: and the contents (of the directory)
[02:21] <sydney> somsip: what if i just tell dejadup to ignore that file? ;) (just a thought) ;)
[02:21] <yoda_> ok but the all uses the same repo so one can be converted into the other by installing uninstalling packages correct so there was no real need to do it. Only for the fact that most people want to chose from those 3 standard builds in the general case
[02:22] <somsip> sydney: then you wont have a backup of it
[02:24] <sydney> somsip: so 'sudo chown -R sydney:sydney /home/sydney/.cashe/dconf'?
[02:25] <daftykins> *cache
[02:25] <sydney> daftykins: i just realized that :P does that look right?
[02:25] <daftykins> yes, though when user is the same as group, there's no need to do more than "user:"
[02:25] <daftykins> but that'll work fine yeah
[02:25] <daftykins> eeee: wb
[02:25] <yoda_> when did ubuntu first start having seperate downloads for desktop or server os's was that starting of some version of 12
[02:26] <eeee> thanks
[02:26] <daftykins> yoda_: no, years and years ago
[02:26] <yoda_> because 10 seemed to be all one distro for a few different archs
[02:26] <Beldar> yoda_, probably since forst release
[02:26] <Beldar> first*
[02:26] <daftykins> yoda_: nope even then it was server and desktop separate
[02:26] <yoda_> approx what year / version was that
[02:26] <Beldar> 1886
[02:27] <Beldar> version -4.4.4.4
[02:30] <yoda_> bullshit
[02:30] <TJ-> yoda_: Dapper Drake 6.06
[02:31] <sydney> somsip: thanks!!Wow,hiding an empty folder...
[02:31] <Beldar> yoda_, language please, all this info you can get from the web, this is support for serious matters not your wimsies.
[02:33] <yoda_> real so the info I read in this chain is the top info / current what people are studying / understanding
[02:33] <yoda_> cool
[02:34] <zacwalls> firefox crashed my pc. i want to prevent another crash. how can i do this?
[02:40] <TJ-> zacwalls: start Firefox in Safe mode, and then disable extensions
[02:45] <zacwalls> TJ-thanks
[02:45] <tonyt> anyone know if there is a way to paste in putty?
[02:46] <daftykins> yes, right click
[02:46] <daftykins> inside the main body of the window
[02:46] <tonyt> tried that. its not working
[02:47] <Clickbuzz> What is a .sh file?
[02:47] <somsip> Clickbuzz: usually, a bash script
[02:47] <yoda_> so then I am see sort of a trend on the number of actual in products to the number of products that just change there names ebox, zentyal ,   landscape ,...etc
[02:49] <ObrienDave> yoda_, do you have an actual Ubuntu support question?
[02:49] <Clickbuzz> somsip so I can write commands in a text editor, save the file as a .sh file. Give it executable permissions. and then execute it like a script?
[02:50] <jay__> is anyone experienced in dual booting with a natively linux computer?
[02:56] <jay__> anyone online?
[02:57] <somsip> Clickbuzz: basically, yes. Though best to add a shebang to it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[02:57] <daftykins> jay__: yes you disappeared when i was replying... do you want to put Windows on after the fact? is that the idea?
[02:57] <Clickbuzz> somsip: lol I like the way that sounds...add a "SHEBANG!"
[02:57] <jay__> my internet disconnected, my bad
[02:58] <jay__> and i wanted to dual boot possibly. but i need to know fi my windows xp recovery disc works for dual booting, of if i need to get a windows xp disc from a store or online
[02:58] <somsip> Clickbuzz: you could add a kerpow, but that would just be silly ;)
[02:59] <Loshki> Clickbuzz: a shebang (also called a sha-bang, hashbang, pound-bang, hash-exclam, or hash-pling)...
[02:59] <daftykins> jay__: XP is dead now, nobody should be installing it for anything. ever.
[02:59] <jay__> im asking if something like that would work though,. i also have a vista recovery and win 7 recovery
[02:59] <daftykins> jay__: but in a dualboot plan you should really be putting Windows on first to make life easy
[03:00] <Clickbuzz> somsip: so the shebang #!/bin/sh basically passes the rest of my script to a specific program/interpreter for the script?
[03:01] <Clickbuzz> somsip well !# not the other one
[03:01] <Clickbuzz> somsip err #!
[03:01] <somsip> Clickbuzz: basically, yes...#! (the ! is the bang!)
[03:02] <jay__> daftykins: i needed to know is a recovery disc works for dual booting.
[03:02] <daftykins> jay__: it really depends what you define as being a recovery disc, i'd consider it standard Windows install media.
[03:03] <daftykins> jay__: if that's just some packaged up way of putting back on all the cruft that came with a system, then it'll work in a way.
[03:03] <jay__> daftykins: it's the factory reset disc's i got when i bought my various computers in the past.
[03:04] <Clickbuzz> somsip: so if I were making a script to configure ufw  #! /bin/sh would let me run the script? Its just a series of ufw commands
[03:04] <daftykins> jay__: you know you can only use those on the ones they came with?
[03:05] <daftykins> Clickbuzz: that's how shell scripting works, sure
[03:05] <somsip> Clickbuzz: yes. Though you would eiter need to sudo {myscript} or have sudo prefix each command in the script (no space in #!/bin/bash)
[03:05] <jay__> daftykins: thats what i needed to know lol
[03:06] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: its just kinda confusing picking the right thing to use. there bash, sh when look to point to dash
[03:06] <daftykins> and he left, just like that
[03:06] <daftykins> not realising he should've been in ##windows this whole time =|
[03:06] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: I never know what runs what
[03:06] <daftykins> stick to bash. also, go to a channel relevant for this topic, such as #bash
[03:07] <Shadow}}> Hey daftykins: Can you help me out?
[03:07] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: will do. didnt know it existed
[03:07] <daftykins> depends if i know anything about your question, Shadow}}
[03:08] <Shadow}}> You do as much as I do so greater I presumed. I'm curious which version of Ubuntu is the most user friendly for complete linux newbies.
[03:08] <daftykins> uuuuuh, i don't typically run desktop so i can't really comment on that one
[03:09] <Shadow}}> daftykins: Its for my mother's computer so all that is required is easy networking, firefox, and if possible Solitaire... Like windows version of it. Does any Ubuntu version come with that?
[03:09] <daftykins> personally i'd say unity is horrible for a new user to get to grips with, it makes no sense to me!
[03:09] <daftykins> what's the spec?
[03:09] <Shadow}}> Its a 1.7 APU all-in-one win8 machine.
[03:11] <Shadow}}> I intend on disabling the UEFI chipset then allowing Legacy and disabling SafeBoot, Then allow Ubuntu's nifty networking driver/updates during installion to do the work for me.
[03:12] <daftykins> Shadow}}: no need to disable UEFI or secure boot
[03:12] <daftykins> updates during install can bite your ass
[03:12] <Shadow}}> You positive? That UEFI in that thing causes alot of unwanted blockage.
[03:12] <grache28> Hi - After installing grub was configured with /dev/sda1 as the windows boot loader, sda1 is Windows recovery partition, and sda2 is the actual Windows partition. I've tried editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom with an entry for /dev/sda2, but when I do sudo update-grub it doesn't seem to accept/see that entry
[03:12] <daftykins> i'm pretty confident i can make UEFI installs work on any setup now
[03:13] <TJ-> Shadow}}: The issues with UEFI are mostly buggy implementations by the motherboard manufacturers
[03:13] <Shadow}}> You may! But I'll be using a simple live cd to do so with networking. I'm not linux savvy by any means.
[03:13] <daftykins> grache28: sounds like you're attempting to use GRUB v1 methodology to resolve GRUBv2
[03:13] <Shadow}}> Agreed TJ-
[03:13] <daftykins> Shadow}}: right, we all install from simple live media - so that'd be fine yes ;)
[03:13] <daftykins> Shadow}}: you just need to know the difference between booting in UEFI mode and not
[03:14] <Shadow}}> Alrighty. So its safe to assume that even being a all-in-one machine if I wipe the drives then I can install Ubuntu from Live-CD?
[03:15] <daftykins> well why don't you dualboot to start with? if your mums use-case is as you say, then it's not like disk space will be an issue
[03:15] <Shadow}}> Oh? Can Grub be coded to boot in non uefi mode?
[03:15] <Shadow}}> It won't.
[03:15] <daftykins> so keep both \o/
[03:15] <Shadow}}> Wait, DualBOOT?
[03:15] <daftykins> do a 50/50 split maybe
[03:15] <daftykins> sure
[03:16] <TJ-> Shadow}}: If you boot the ISO in EFI mode, then you can install alongside Windows. Both Windows and Ubuntu will have entries in the UEFI boot menu
[03:16] <Shadow}}> I tried instaling Mythbuntu alongside win8 a year ago but it blocks the os from starting and i can't even find the menu.lst to remove the mythbuntu..
[03:16] <daftykins> yeah you too are trying to use GRUBv1 methods
[03:16] <TJ-> Shadow}}: The default will be Ubuntu, but by pressing, at boot-time, the key that brings up the manual boot menu, you'll be able to choose which OS ... no need for GRUB to deal with Windows chainloader when using UEFI
[03:17] <daftykins> anyway, that was mythbuntu, not normal ubuntu
[03:17] <grache28> daftykins: oh, i thought that was grub 2 - http://ubuntuguide.net/manually-addingremoving-entries-to-grub-2-menu
[03:17] <Shadow}}> Truetrue. Alright. So, What do ya'll say Ubuntu or a specific version of ubuntu?
[03:18] <daftykins> knowing the spec would still be nice
[03:18] <grache28> daftykins: do you have any info on the grub2 methodology?
[03:18] <daftykins> !grub
[03:18] <Shadow}}> 1.7GZ APU, AMD..Erm what else..
[03:18] <daftykins> Shadow}}: why not boot live media then see which she likes? at the end of the day you're going to have to support it ;)
[03:18] <daftykins> well the intended network interface would be important to get it online :>
[03:19] <daftykins> actually i think a lot of the AMD APUs still give graphics issues, not sure if they've all been ironed out yet
[03:19] <Shadow}}> Trust me. I despise that machine, Thus why its hers.
[03:20] <Shadow}}> But she can't take Windows 8's bullcrap anymore either. And I'm sick of wifi intruders.
[03:20] <daftykins> wifi what now?
[03:21] <Shadow}}> I really don't know, Some dude has been jacking into any desktops with built-in wifi adapters for years now. That win8 is like..A cess pool every day anew.
[03:21] <grache28> daftykins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[03:22] <daftykins> Shadow}}: you have proof of this 0o
[03:22] <Shadow}}> I have his mac address but thats beside the point.
[03:22] <grache28> According to that it seems I used the correct methodology, which part specificly was grub1?
[03:23] <daftykins> Shadow}}: well it's quite interesting because i somewhat doubt that's going on to a patched system (:
[03:23] <daftykins> or if it is, i'd get the guy convicted
[03:23] <Shadow}}> Anyway I'm off to bed, Was just checking what to download to install tomorrow. Hm?
[03:24] <daftykins> they're free, download them all... try them all...
[03:24] <daftykins> got a 4GB flash drive? that's 3 or 4 on one drive to try ;)
[03:24] <Shadow}}> Oh. I'm not concerned about it, Doesn't leave any tracks and doesn't get into MY terminal only that win8 crud maker.
[03:24] <daftykins> hating on Windows is just a sign you can't make it work :)
[03:25] <Shadow}}> You sound like microsoft trying to dispute my case of flash in IE having builtin whitelisting/blacklisting(s). -Rolls eyes-
[03:26] <Rajvi> Hi Guys, My system time is wrong.. both manaul & time server.. I am not able to correct the time
[03:27] <Rajvi> I am on UTC+5:30 GMT, however i can't seem to figure a way to get this right
[03:28] <daftykins> ntpdate
[03:30] <Guest4269> hello guys
[03:30] <Bashing-om> Rajvi: ^^. Also dual booting with Windows? Such that Windows is controlling the hard ware clock ?
[03:32] <Rajvi> I am not dual booting.. its a fresh installof 14.01 which update to 14.04.1 automactically
[03:33] <Rajvi> 14.04 work fine for me ! Dunno if they reintroduce some bugs
[03:34] <daftykins> just because your clock is wonky doesn't mean the entire OS is at fault
[03:34] <Guest4269> installed ubuntu first time, it went well apart from the prob i had with my 2 intel 520 ssd drives being in RAID 0 mode which i had disable
[03:35] <Guest4269> to disable*
[03:35] <Rajvi> i also did nt server update, no go
[03:37] <Guest4269> can someone help me figure out why my mouse arrow is shivering? tia
[03:40] <Guest4269> hello?
[03:41] <napster> .msg alist list reg
[03:41] <napster> sorry guys
[03:41] <napster> missed a slash
[03:41] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, optical or mechanical mouse?
[03:41] <daftykins> you'll be missing more than that if you don't move to your status window, napster
[03:41] <daftykins> ;)
[03:41] <Guest4269> optical
[03:42] <napster> daftykins not sure I understand :-?
[03:42] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, have you cleaned the lens lately?
[03:42] <daftykins> napster: nevermind.
[03:42] <Guest4269> the arrow is shivering like crazy
[03:43] <ObrienDave> daftykins, your team ;P
[03:43] <ObrienDave> constantly?
[03:43] <Guest4269> it works fine under windows
[03:43] <Guest4269> yup constantly
[03:43]  * napster is thinking what exactly is a status window :S :)
[03:44] <ObrienDave> napster, the one that says freenode
[03:44] <daftykins> ObrienDave: team 0o
[03:44] <ObrienDave> rofl ;P
[03:44] <Guest4269> the arrow doesn't shake but its kinda pulsating very fast
[03:45]  * napster feeling completely alienated. where in the world am I?
[03:45] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, just for fun, unplug and replug the mouse
[03:45] <Guest4269> ok
[03:46] <ObrienDave> napster, daftykins was trying to explain that your command only works in the status window, not the channel window
[03:47] <daftykins> nah i was hinting they should be run there only
[03:47] <daftykins> for safety
[03:47] <ObrienDave> yea, and that too LOL
[03:47] <napster> ObrienDave ah! this is a mac client guys. Textual.
[03:47] <Guest4269> i unplugged and plugged it in and it's the same =(
[03:47] <napster> it works fine even if I use the channel window.
[03:48] <ObrienDave> ok, my mistake
[03:48] <napster> :)
[03:48] <daftykins> yeah see i didn't mean that ;)
[03:48] <Jeffrey_f> Rajvi: what are you dual booting
[03:48] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, i have no idea why that is happening
[03:48] <napster> by the way I was looking out for regular expression channels. #regex has everybody sleeping. wanna discuss some regex stuff?
[03:49] <napster> linux users are supposed to be regex experts :D
[03:50] <ObrienDave> right, i don't even know all of the IRC commands LOL
[03:50] <Jeffrey_f> napster: did you try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:50] <Guest4269> also i have nvidia gtx 680 card, do i need to install nvidia drivers?
[03:50] <napster> not yet, let me see
[03:51] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, probably won't hurt, can't guarantee it will fix the cursor issue
[03:51] <edition> I have a document of entries, separated with "#end"... how to create HTML from a Shell script?
[03:51] <somsip> edition: try in #bash
[03:51] <edition> thanks
[03:52] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, does cursor shake when slowly moving the mouse?
[03:52] <peterrooney> I see a headache in your future
[03:52] <somsip> edition: they should be able to help on parsing the file anyway. You'll have to look more for the HTML ouput you want
[03:52] <Guest4269> cos at the graphics kinda tear when i move a video window or play flash games
[03:53] <Guest4269> the cursor is pulsating like mad
[03:54] <DanaG> Say, do any of you have a 1280x720 display?  I need to EDID-override a system, so it would be a massive help if somebody with such a display would run 'read-edid > somefilename', then either upload the file somewhere, or pastebin the output of 'xxd somefile'.
[03:55] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, try changing cursor sets
[03:56] <daftykins> DanaG: does your display fail to give a correct EDID? is it VGA?
[03:57] <DanaG> Actually, it's an IPMI device, with no monitor attached.  The device is capable of up to 1920x1080, but running 1280x720 gives me the best balance of real estate and not filling the viewer's screen.
[03:57] <meganerd> DanaG: I have a TV that is annoying like that.  Advertises 1024x768 even though it is 720p
[03:57] <Guest4269> obrien, where do i look for cursor sets?
[03:57] <daftykins> IPMI 0o
[03:58] <DanaG> If I use drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=<some edid.bin>, the "ast" KMS driver gives a better resolution.  Default is 1024x768.
[03:59] <DanaG> Thankfuly, llvmpipe on Haswell is fast enough that the network connection is usually the limit, even with Gnome Shell.  Gnome Shell is actually better for it, because the viewer doesn't pass alt-tab.
[04:00] <Guest4269> obrien, just noticed if i stop streaming from bbc iplayer the cursor calms down
[04:02] <ObrienDave> hmm, interesting
[04:02] <Guest4269> im using latest ubuntu
[04:02] <Guest4269> it updated itself
[04:03] <ObrienDave> i'm on Xubuntu. you might find cursor sets under mouse settings, not sure
[04:03] <Guest4269> cool i'll have a look
[04:06] <Guest4269> i searched in Unity for 'mouse', can't see any cursor settings, its very basic
[04:09] <BSODInTheSky> ChanServ: How did you do that in nanoseconds?
[04:09] <BSODInTheSky> :O
[04:10] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, i don;t know where your mouse cursors are. try appearance
[04:13] <Guest4269> no luck under appearence
[04:18] <Awoken> Guest4269: sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[04:18] <Awoken> always seconds too late :p
[04:21] <lowlanding> howdy
[04:22] <lowlanding> brap brap
[04:23] <Sir_Leto> anyone able to figure out why I only have stero audio through HDMI?
[04:23] <Sir_Leto> and not 5.1?
[04:24] <DanaG> sir_leto: Is your video card one of the models that can do true multichannel digital audio?  For example, any Radeon older than HD5xxx can't do it.
[04:24] <Sir_Leto> really>
[04:24] <Sir_Leto> I've used it for years
[04:25] <Sir_Leto> I have a radeon hd 4670
[04:25] <DanaG> hmm, that one might do it, after all...
[04:26] <daftykins> Sir_Leto: you can't ask xbmc things in here
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I wasn't asking about xbmc in particular
[04:26] <DanaG> Does the gnome audio control panel offer 7.1?
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I was asking about system wide audio
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I'm using xubuntu, and no
[04:27] <DanaG> hmm.
[04:27] <Sir_Leto> I'm running 14.04
[04:27] <DanaG> waitaminute... I seem to recall reading that the Radeon open-source drivers didn't have multichannel LPCM.  Though, last time I checked was about a year ago.
[04:28] <DanaG> Is this a sudden change, or has it never worked in Ubuntu?  (with open-source drivers, that is)
[04:28] <Sir_Leto> I haven't used linux in a long time, but I'm pretty sure it used to work.
[04:30] <DanaG> hmm, you might want to ask in #alsa and #radeon, as well.
[04:31] <Sir_Leto> I think it's using pulse
[04:31] <Sir_Leto> I'll try using asla
[04:31] <p4_> hello
[04:31] <meganerd> pulse is just a layer on top of alsa
[04:31] <p4_> :)
[04:32] <DanaG> PulseAudio is fanciness on top of ALSA; ALSA is the actual drivers.  Plus a bit from the video driver, since HDMI mixes audio and video.
[04:57] <brucelee> trying to set up my preseed file, running into some confusion, hopefully one of you experts can clear it up for me :)
[04:57] <brucelee> if i want to make a preseed file ask me for network information, how do i do?
[04:57] <brucelee> from what im reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html, seems like i have to uncomment the "Static network configuration" lines
[04:59] <brucelee> can someone confirm :)
[05:01] <deitarion> How do I craft an apt-get command that means "just install/purge the packages which DO exist" without the sluggishness and clutter of going package-by-package using a shellscript for loop?
[05:16] <supaplex> I need a 802.11gn usb adapter that can use master (AP) mode (eg, hostapd) for more than 7 clients. Firmware/SoC ram limitations on the ath9k_htc (AR9271) cannot run more than 7 associated clients at once. TIA.
[05:16] <qwebirc21715> hi
[05:20] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[05:20] <bluegoon> My system keeps locking up
[05:20] <bluegoon> total freeze, cant switch TTY, nothing.
[05:20] <bluegoon> Checked temps, all fine
[05:21] <bluegoon> NVIDIA card
[05:22] <brucelee> found the answer to my question...
[05:22] <brucelee> have another question now... what does the mirror suite in the preseed file mean
[05:23] <brucelee> i guess thats the package
[05:24] <bluegoon> It just keeps locking up
[05:24] <bluegoon> Think I should re-install everything
[05:24] <brucelee> actually my main question is how can i set my preseed file to go through installation without having to download anything
[05:27] <ObrienDave> bluegoo.... sheesh
[05:33] <cjnm> ls
[05:55] <bluegoon> I dont think these Nvidia drivers are OK
[05:55] <bluegoon> With 14.04
[06:01] <nikolam_> I dunno what to do with this .deb/apt it asks me to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and then sits down saying "RSetting up libgempc430 (1.0.7-2) , estarting PCSC Lite resource manager pcscd" forever
[06:03] <histo> nikolam_: are you using a ppa?
[06:07] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't.Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. :Depends: default-jre-headless (= 1:1.6-43ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed                Depends: openjdk-6-jre (>= 6b23~pre11-1ubuntu1~) but it is not going to be installed
[06:10] <nikolam_> histo, yup and what about it. want me to disable them to see if it gets better?
[06:10] <nikolam_> dpkg was interrupted while installing something
[06:11] <nikolam_> and he was interrupted because he was active for a long time doing nothing
[06:11] <histo> !info libgempc430
[06:11] <nikolam_> I guess problem is that he can not restart pcscd
[06:11] <histo> !info pcscd
[06:11] <nikolam_> so what about it
[06:11] <histo> nikolam_: who is he?
[06:12] <nikolam_> histo, dpkg
[06:13] <histo> nikolam_: you could stop pcscd manually
[06:14] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't. Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:14] <histo> nikolam_: sudo stop pcscd
[06:14] <nikolam_> yes i tried it keeps restarting and have no affect to dpkg command. it just fails then
[06:15] <nikolam_> Errors were encountered while processing: libgempc430 libgempc410
[06:15] <histo> nikolam_: are you even using smart cards?
[06:15] <nikolam_> and there are 3 processes named pcscd . I tried and it obviously does not work. Even smart card reader is now not attached
[06:16] <nikolam_> I went and installed everything regarding smart cards i was thinking should make it work and obviously something of that is in collision
[06:18] <nikolam_> and it keeps displaying this on every sudo command, but that is there since 13.10->14.04 update: "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory"
[06:19] <histo> nikolam_: do you use any of the packages that apt is complaining about?
[06:19] <user123321> http://pastebin.com/RkKpsNsf <----  This is the interfaces file of an LUbuntu VM that cannot connect to internet nor access to router's page. Any ideas?
[06:19] <user123321> I've used CARP
[06:20] <histo> wth is carp
[06:20] <user123321> Common Address Redundancy Protocol
[06:20] <histo> user123321: why?
[06:20] <user123321> histo, for servers :)
[06:21] <user123321> for example, backup taking in charge when main fails.
[06:21] <histo> user123321: anyhoot what kind of output do you get with route
[06:21] <histo> user123321: like bonded interface okay
[06:21] <user123321> Kernel IP routing table
[06:21] <user123321> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[06:21] <user123321> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[06:22] <user123321> oops
[06:22] <user123321> does it make sense?
[06:22] <MoundBob> Is there a keyring app installed on ubuntu by default?
[06:23] <histo> user123321: is ther interface up?
[06:23] <histo> s/ther/the
[06:24] <user123321> histo, iface is up, I restarted eth0
[06:24] <user123321> MoundBob, keyring?
[06:24] <user123321> btw, the gateway is * over there, right? o.O
[06:24] <user123321> in my host, I have 192.168.1.1 as gateway
[06:24] <user123321> not in VM
[06:25] <histo> user123321: why are you using lubuntu for server stuff in the first place?  Just curious
[06:25] <user123321> histo, it's the same as ubuntu right?
[06:25] <histo> user123321: Do you need the desktop environment for some reason?
[06:26] <user123321> histo, I'd prefer a GUI atm :D
[06:26] <histo> user123321: ip route   shows what?
[06:26] <histo> user123321: also make sure their network manager isn't running wild with your connections
[06:26] <histo> user123321: and have you tried pinging by ip and seeing if it's a DNS issue?
[06:27] <user123321> histo,  192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.3
[06:28] <user123321> I can ping to my VM
[06:28] <histo> user123321: then what is the issue?
[06:28] <user123321> VM cannot connect to internet
[06:28] <histo> user123321: can the vm ping 8.8.8.8
[06:29] <user123321> histo, connect: Network is unreachable
[06:29] <user123321> but my host can
[06:29] <histo> user123321: can the vm ping the gateway?
[06:30] <user123321> histo, no
[06:30] <dada> aloha! what's the status with 14.04 LTS? why Update Manager (currently on 12.04, set to "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For long-term support versions") still doesn't offer me to upgrade?
[06:30] <nikolam_> histo, your questions are normal but not helping, thanks.
[06:31] <user123321> histo, It seems that the VM with UCARP currently active cannot ping 192.168.1.1
[06:31] <nikolam_> no those are libraries not applications, and i am not using them
[06:31] <nikolam_> problem is with apt / dpkg that has a problem with restarting service that would not restart and then fails to fix state of packages
[06:32] <histo> nikolam_: I'm trying to figure out if you even need the service. If not just remove it.
[06:32] <user123321> histo, Is it a must that the gateway's IP be shown in route command?
[06:33] <nikolam_> histo, well to remove it, i need working apt/dpkg, right. and it is not working
[06:33] <histo> user123321: no the * is correct
[06:33] <user123321> histo, I see, but my host shows 192.168.1.1
[06:33] <user123321> as gateway
[06:34] <histo> user123321: ahh you don't have a gateway defined in your interfaces
[06:35] <histo> user123321: define gate 192.168.1.1 udner your netmask line
[06:35] <user123321> histo, I did try to define, but it didn't work. Shall I try defining again?
[06:35] <user123321> ok
[06:35] <histo> user123321: Also I would try commenting otu the ucarp stuff just to make sure networking is workign first.
[06:37] <mal10c> hello world
[06:38] <histo> !test | mal10c
[06:40] <histo> user123321: any luck?
[06:42] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't. Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:42] <user123321> histo, with gateway, can't still ping 192.168.1.1. I commented CARP stuff, then I could ping 8.8.8.8, but browser cannot access the internet. DHCP pool summary of my router did not have an IP assigned for my VM, is it because of static ip in interfaces file?
[06:42] <histo> user123321: yes, and you can't reach a website because of no nameservers
[06:43] <user123321> histo, let me remove static part.
[06:43] <histo> user123321: no you can leave it
[06:43] <histo> user123321: just define nameservers
[06:44] <histo> user123321: do you have the resolvconf package installed?
[06:44] <MoundBob> When I use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7921302/ how does the data in the loop device synchronize the file that was attached to it?
[06:45] <histo> user123321: if you do just add a line dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4  or use your ISPs
[06:46] <ahinsingh1140>  /msg nickserv help identify
[06:46] <ahinsingh1140>  /msg nickserv help identify
[06:46] <histo> MoundBob: the loop device is the file
[06:47] <histo> MoundBob: why are you doing it that way?
[06:47] <histo> you could just dd tot he file.  Don't quite understand the need for the loop device int he first place.
[06:50] <histo> MoundBob: nvm just saw you want to write to the filesystem
[06:50] <Vampir3> hi everyone, i create a OpenVPN connection, but when i click on it nothing happen, is there any solution to fix that? (Ubuntu 14.04)
[06:50] <user123321> histo, this is surprising, I now have only "auto lo
[06:50] <user123321> iface lo inet loopback
[06:50] <user123321> auto eth0" in interfaces, still cannot connect to internet with browser.
[06:51] <user123321> shall I get resolveconf
[06:51] <poobutt> hi i have just run update / upgrade on ubuntu server running on hypervisor and am asked for grub location please help as i am not sure http://imgur.com/wxCUpp4
[06:52] <histo> user123321: dpkg -l | grep resolvconf
[06:53] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to make a backup of all the files on an external harddrive. I've used 'rsync -avr --delete source/ dest', but after completion the dest is 15 GB bigger then the source. What could be going on?
[06:54] <Vampir3> hi everyone, i create a OpenVPN connection, but when i click on it nothing happen, is there any solution to fix that? (Ubuntu 14.04)
[06:54] <histo> poobutt: /dev/sda should be it
[06:54] <poobutt> thanks histo
[06:55] <user123321> histo, I remove auto eth0 as well, because I don't have it in my host that can connect to internet, and rebooting VM to check its effect.
[06:55] <user123321> removed*
[06:55] <histo> trijntje: different filesystems?
[06:55] <trijntje> histo: no, both are ext4
[06:55] <histo> user123321: I thought you wanted static ip?
[06:55] <histo> trijntje: have you tried diff'ng the directories?
[06:56] <trijntje> histo: I tried, but both are 1TB disks, so dirdiff runs out of memory. Is there another tool I should use?
[06:56] <histo> trijntje: diff dir1 dir2
[06:56] <histo> ahh
[06:56] <user123321> histo, oh phew, now it works. But now it's with no CARP. So I'll put back the settings back to make it CARP enabled.
[06:57] <trijntje> histo: I also tried that, but it just ran for hours at 5% cpu without any output, so I closed it
[06:57] <histo> user123321: If you would stop... The issue is your DNS for not resolving web addresses
[06:57] <histo> trijntje: trying to think of a way to hash it
[06:57] <histo> trijntje: how are you checking the size?
[06:58] <trijntje> histo: df -h
[06:58] <histo> trijntje: try sync
[06:58] <histo> then check
[06:58] <user123321> histo, oh ok
[06:58] <trijntje> histo: I already rebooted after running rsync
[06:58] <histo> ughh
[06:59] <DanaG> trintje: did you specify an argument that makes rsync follow symlinks?  If so, it would copy files rather than linking them.
[06:59] <histo> trijntje: and if you run rsync again?
[06:59] <DanaG> handy tool: 'ncdu'.
[06:59] <histo> that could be
[06:59] <user123321> histo, I got a respose for resolve
[06:59] <user123321>  dpkg -l | grep resolvconf
[06:59] <user123321> ii  resolvconf                               1.69ubuntu1.1                        all          name server information handler
[07:00] <trijntje> histo: running now, it will take some time though
[07:00] <histo> trijntje: it shouldn't as files should match
[07:01] <histo> trijntje: what types of files are you copying?
[07:02] <s4kk4t> Hello,
[07:02] <s4kk4t> I have the script pasted at https://dpaste.de/X4nn/
[07:02] <s4kk4t> The variable FFMPEG_PROC_RUNNING_CNT is always being set to 2 and the script is failing.
[07:02] <s4kk4t> When i run the relevant part of the snippet in a shell as shown at https://dpaste.de/w3aY/
[07:02] <s4kk4t> it is returning a valid value. Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong ?
[07:02] <trijntje> histo: music, a lot of pictures, documents, iso's, disk images, its a lot of stuf
[07:03] <s4kk4t> I am running ubuntu 14.04 IIRC
[07:03] <trijntje> histo: rsync is done, no output, but still a 15GB difference in usage
[07:03] <histo> trijntje: I still suspect one of the filesystems needs to be fsck'd your files should all match though.
[07:03] <anandcse2009> hi what is the difference b/w ssh and rsh
[07:04] <s4kk4t> anandcse2009: ssh is more secure
[07:04] <s4kk4t> modern alternative
[07:04] <s4kk4t> because its encrypted
[07:05] <anandcse2009> thanks s4kk4t
[07:05] <trijntje> histo: what do you mean? there are no complaints about fs damage in dmesg for either harddisk
[07:05] <histo> trijntje: That's the only thing I can think off. Unless you have sparse files or something.
[07:06] <histo> s/off/of/
[07:06] <trijntje> histo: hmm, thats a good point, but how to check for that?
[07:07] <histo> trijntje: well you can just fsck each FS and then compare size
[07:08] <histo> trijntje: if you created sparse files then that's definately an issue. If you don't know what sparse files are or how to create them then that's not it.
[07:08] <rivl44> hi im reformatting my windows 7 so that i can dual boot with xubuntu, how much space should i dedicate to linux if I have a 120 gig ssd?
[07:08] <trijntje> histo: maybe I'm confused, isn't fsck just to see if the filesystem is damaged?
[07:08] <trijntje> histo: ah, no, I didn't manually create sparse files. I do have a ~100 GB torrent dir, but the size is equal to about 1kb on both harddisks
[07:08] <histo> rivl44: why not just split the drive in half.  If not you can go as minimal within reason as you want. I'd say atleast 10GB to be safe
[07:09] <rivl44> histo:  thanks someone said 10 gig as well, so 10 gig it is.
[07:09] <rivl44> i was worried that iwndows 7 will be eating the bigger chunk of it
[07:10] <damian-> is it common to have 'no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory' when doing a sudo?!
[07:10] <geirha> damian-: definitely not
[07:10] <damian-> i have it on both of my systems (one upgraded, another fresh install)
[07:11] <histo> damian-: no
[07:11] <histo> damian-: what command are you running with sudo?
[07:11] <damian-> both on different physical machines, on different OS's as virtualmachines, too. strange that they have exactly the same error come up :\
[07:11] <damian-> sudo -s
[07:11] <histo> damian-: sudo -i
[07:12] <awaad> I have an empty database and when I try to drop it, it gives the following error "Lost connection to MySQL server during query"
[07:12] <histo> damian-: does that work?
[07:12] <damian-> yeah, works perfectly. what's the different between -s(hell) and -l(ogin) ?
[07:12] <awaad> In the error log it says: "InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread 140191159224064 in file row0mysql.cc line 4516"
[07:12] <damian-> i rather
[07:13] <awaad> Any one can help?
[07:13] <damian-> awaad, shouldn't that be a #mysql question? :P
[07:13] <s4kk4t> can any one help me ?
[07:14] <s4kk4t> my question has scrolled off .. should i repost it ?
[07:14] <user123321> histo, Am I supposed to add dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 using resolvconf
[07:15] <s4kk4t> user123321: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8 " >> /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:15] <histo> user123321: no in your interfaces file
[07:15] <histo> s4kk4t: that doesn't work
[07:15] <s4kk4t> histo: why does it not work ?
[07:16] <histo> damian-: -i reads the .profile and .login files etc... for root
[07:16] <user123321> histo, ok, I added "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" above "auto eth0", is that ok?
[07:16] <histo> damian-: that's odd though -s should work fine.
[07:16] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Off the screen is not lost here, generally we ask for 10 min time to repost, you were having a conversation with someone.
[07:16] <histo> damian-: something in your users environment could be messing with it.
[07:16] <user123321> histo, I'm connected to the internet using my ADSL router.
[07:17] <histo> user123321: no add dns-nameservers ....   under your netmask etc...
[07:17] <s4kk4t> Beldar: its been close to 20 minutes
[07:17] <damian-> yeah, that's what i figured histo. i was having issues with one of my servers yesterday and this started coming up .. so i installed a brand new server on a new vm and it has the same issue. this is a *BRAND* new install
[07:17] <damian-> literally after installation, i logged on as a standard user and did sudo -s and it came up with that
[07:17] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Go for it I was just giving info. ;)
[07:17] <histo> damian-: did you copy over any files to the users home on the 'new server' ?
[07:18] <user123321> histo, Ok, I added "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" under netmask.
[07:18] <damian-> i'm assuming more something to do with the OS than the configuration (as it's all default configuration from my end)
[07:18] <s4kk4t> I have the script pasted at https://dpaste.de/X4nn/
[07:18] <s4kk4t> The variable FFMPEG_PROC_RUNNING_CNT is always being set to 2 and the script is failing.
[07:18] <s4kk4t> When i run the relevant part of the snippet in a shell as shown at https://dpaste.de/w3aY/
[07:18] <user123321> netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:18] <s4kk4t> it is returning a valid value. Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong ?
[07:18] <histo> damian-: well it works here and for countless others perfectly fine so I doubt it's the OS
[07:18] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Key though is some description to get interest.
[07:18] <histo> s4kk4t: join the bash channel and ask
[07:18] <damian-> nope, i haven't done anything to the new server yet, like i said.. literally only logged on and did sudo haha
[07:19] <s4kk4t> histo: #bash ?
[07:19] <histo> s4kk4t: yes
[07:19] <s4kk4t> histo: thanks
[07:20] <user123321> histo,  ping 8.8.8.8: network unreachable
[07:20] <histo> s4kk4t: you may want to try $()  vs. `
[07:21] <s4kk4t> user123321: traceroute 8.8.8.8 ?
[07:21] <user123321> histo,  either with or without dns name server, it says network unreachable o.O
[07:21] <s4kk4t> histo: tried it same result
[07:21] <histo> user123321: please pastebin your interfaces file
[07:21] <user123321> s4kk4t, oops, traceroute isn't installed, and not internet to install.
[07:21] <user123321> histo, ok
[07:22] <user123321> I could revert the interfaces and get internet back, if wanted. but let me upload interface file now.
[07:22] <histo> user123321: you could just copy and paste from the vm
[07:23] <histo> well depending on the virtualization solution you are using
[07:24] <user123321> histo, as a sidenote, ping 8.8.8.8 just gave one response with about 70 ms, only once o.O
[07:24] <user123321> just now
[07:25] <user123321> I added gateway 192.168.1.1
[07:25] <histo> that's odd
[07:25] <histo> user123321: does dpkg -l | grep resolvconf  return anything?
[07:27] <user123321> histo, ii  resolvconf                               1.69ubuntu1.1                        all          name server information handler
[07:27] <user123321> histo, http://pastebin.com/EghdcWfA <---interfaces
[07:28] <MoundBob> Im really stumped. Im trying to learn how to make my own boot disk, not download one. Not use a physical floppy. I need to put some assembly in a boot sector on a floppy disk image. Anyone have any ideas how?
[07:29]  * Abhijit checks date.
[07:29] <Abhijit> MoundBob, "floppy"??
[07:30] <Abhijit> dont you mean cd /dvd/bluray/usbdrive and the latest nasas motion in space invention?
[07:31] <DanaG> bah, I no longer use boot sectors, wherever possible.  EFI for the win!  No more start-of-disk magic; instead, you just run proper compiled executables.
[07:31] <histo> user123321: comment out the carp stuff and under gateway 192... put dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4    then restart networking and rejoice
[07:32] <Abhijit> histo, doesnt restarting networknig overwrites resolve.conf and hence errasing google dns?
[07:32] <histo> MoundBob: why are you working with floppies?
[07:32] <histo> Abhijit: not if he puts them in interfaces file as instructed.
[07:32] <MoundBob> Abhijit: This is what im trying to do. Essentially write some assembly to a floppy disk image's boot sector. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7921625/
[07:33] <Abhijit> histo, okey
[07:33] <Abhijit> MoundBob, why floppy?
[07:34]  * Abhijit recently got a id card in form of real floppy disk at on tech conf!
[07:34] <histo> MoundBob: and what's the problem with those commands?
[07:34] <user123321> histo, oh, that worked. Now I can connect to internet.
[07:34] <histo> user123321: now add your carp stuff and break it.
[07:35] <user123321> histo, by keeping the dns name server ip?
[07:35] <histo> user123321: yes
[07:35] <MoundBob> Abhijit: because I read that it was easier to make a boot disk from.
[07:36] <histo> user123321: you need those to resolve URLs to IPs
[07:36] <marcmae> can you give command for ubuntu update
[07:36] <Abhijit> :-o
[07:36] <MoundBob> Abhijit: I dont think this was the right channel to ask in. Its not a boot disk for ubuntu
[07:36] <Abhijit> marcmae, sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:36] <Abhijit> MoundBob, ##linux-india
[07:36] <Abhijit> MoundBob, ##linux
[07:36] <user123321> histo, back to the same problem
[07:36] <user123321> cannot connect to internet
[07:37] <user123321> histo, I tried pinging 8.8.8.8, one response so far.
[07:37] <user123321> histo, second one came.
[07:37] <user123321> slow? o.O
[07:38] <user123321> just 3 responses like in 15 seconds
[07:38] <user123321> 5 responses
[07:39] <histo> user123321: Your carp settings are the issue now. I have no idea how to set that stuff up.  If you comment them out so you have working internet and perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server theymay have more info for you on carp
[07:39] <user123321> Cool, thanks. :)
[07:39] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to make a backup of all the files on a 1TB external harddrive. I've used 'rsync -avr --delete source/ dest', but after completion the dest is 15 GB bigger then the source. What could be going on?
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: fsck the fiel systems
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: also -r is not needed with -a
[07:42] <user123321> histo, So, if I configure a static IP, I must add a nameserver?
[07:42] <histo> user123321: yes
[07:43] <histo> user123321: if you want to resolv urls
[07:43] <user123321> histo, because, my host doesn't have static ip configured, and it works without adding dns
[07:43] <user123321> ah I see
[07:44] <user123321> histo, I can see "primary DNS" and "secondary DNS" IP's in my ADSL router. Are those from my ISP?
[07:45] <trijntje> histo: both filesystems are clean
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: did you run fsck?
[07:46] <trijntje> histo: yes
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: now compare size
[07:47] <trijntje> histo: still 15GB difference in usage
[07:47] <histo> trijntje: is sector size different on the drives?
[07:48] <histo> trijntje: parted -l   on both drives
[07:48] <infolinux> Hi all, I have a site running with ssl. If I do a check on ssllabs, I get a B rate. Message: The server supports only older protocols, but not the current best TLS 1.2. Grade capped to B.
[07:48] <infolinux> how can i fix that? Running 12.04 with apache 2.2 and OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012 (Library: OpenSSL 1.0.0e 6 Sep 2011)
[07:49] <histo> infolinux: apt-get upgrade
[07:49] <infolinux> apache version: Installed: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4
[07:49] <trijntje> histo: both external disks have 512B sector size
[07:49] <infolinux> histo: What does that fix then?
[07:50] <histo> infolinux: You need to upgrade openssl
[07:50] <bookies> is there a way to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04(LTS)?
[07:50] <histo> trijntje: double check that both are ext4
[07:51] <marcmae> hey guys
[07:51] <histo> trijntje: do you have virtual machines in this backup?
[07:53] <trijntje> histo: both are ext4, parted -l also shows this. I don't have virtual machines in the backup as far as I remember
[07:53] <histo> trijntje: did you ever play with virtualbox or anything on the source that would have created vmdk or sparse files for the virtual machine drives
[07:54] <trijntje> if I have they are in some tar.gz of my whole home dir, what effect would that have?
[07:54] <trijntje> histo: no, I keep my virtualbox images on the internal harddrive
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: It shouldn't be an issue if they are tar.gz'd but if they were just there in theopen then you would see the behavior you are reporting.
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: you could try rsync -avS  and see if that has different behavior
[07:56] <histo> trijntje: the other thing that could cause it is a bad directory that wasn't deleted properly and the inode is hanging on the source. So the destination would have that different size data.
[07:57] <histo> trijntje: but your fsck would have fixed that, if you fsck'd source and dest and rsync'd again.
[07:57] <alfonsojon> bookies: Officially, it's best to upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10, then 14.04. I suggest a clean install, or you can risk it and do a manual upgrade.
[07:57] <bookies> alfonsojon, thanks
[07:57] <histo> !eol | bookies
[07:58] <bookies> histo, cheers
[07:58] <alfonsojon> I'll keep the !eol command in mind.
[08:02] <trijntje> histo: I ran rsync -avS, but the difference remains
[08:04] <histo> trijntje: did you still ahve the --delete in there?
[08:05] <histo> trijntje: try cmp <(ls -R /dir1) <(ls -R /dir2)    it will take awhile if there are tons of files
[08:08] <trijntje> histo: yeah, I still had the --delete, sorry
[08:10] <trijntje> histo: I get a syntax error, and I'm not sure what the correct syntax should be
[08:13] <histo> trijntje: just like a typed but substitute /dir1  for your source and /dir2  for your destination
[08:13] <histo> trijntje: that will list both directories recursively and compare all the file names looking for differences
[08:14] <trijntje> histo: yeah, it looks like I made typo somewhere, sorry. The output is here http://pastebin.com/1L2FN91H
[08:14] <trijntje> but I'm confused, why does it say /dev/fd is different?
[08:15] <histo> trijntje: byte 1 should be different because of the directory names line
[08:15] <histo> trijntje: is it showing others different?
[08:16] <trijntje> histo: no, thats all output. And it runs really fast, within a second
[08:16] <OERIAS> Fucking Ubuntu ruined everything!
[08:16] <histo> trijntje: then you are good
[08:16] <histo> trijntje: well atleast the filenames match.. If the data is really critical you could create an md5sum of every file and compare that.
[08:17] <trijntje> histo: are you sure. Running just ls -R $BACUP > /dev/null takes a lot longer than the whole cmp command
[08:17] <histo> trijntje: what output did you get from the cmp command?
[08:17] <histo> trijntje: and what did you type
[08:18] <trijntje> histo: I've put the output on pastebin, thats all the output I get. I'm thinking maybe there is a permissions problem, it shouldn't run so fast
[08:19] <histo> trijntje: what's the link to the pastebin?
[08:19] <trijntje> histo: http://pastebin.com/1L2FN91H
[08:20] <histo> trijntje: pastebin the output of rsync -avn --delete /source /backup
[08:23] <trijntje> histo: http://pastebin.com/Dfn65wZe
[08:24] <histo> trijntje: all those files match I have no idea why the size is reporting different
[08:25] <trijntje> histo: are you sure the cmp command you gave is correct. Because
[08:25] <trijntje> cmp <(ls -R $RASPI ) <(ls -R $BACKUP)
[08:25] <trijntje> runs faster then
[08:25] <trijntje> ls -R $RASPI > /dev/null
[08:25] <histo> k
[08:27] <OERIAS> Fuck it! I am moving to debian..
[08:27] <histo> !language | OERIAS
[08:27] <svetlana> OERIAS: OK, have fun; I hope you like it and contribute something upstream :)
[08:27] <histo> OERIAS: how exactly did 'ubuntu' ruin everything?
[08:27] <svetlana> :P
[08:27] <OERIAS> Privacy issues
[08:28] <histo> OERIAS: Can you elaborate a little bit?
[08:28] <OERIAS> Amazon
[08:28] <histo> OERIAS: disable it
[08:28] <OERIAS> I would, but 600 production machines were shipped with it enabled
[08:28] <histo> !shopping | OERIAS
[08:30] <OERIAS> histo, like i said before i am getting calls from a tax firm regarding this,
[08:30] <OERIAS> 600 machines
[08:30] <OERIAS> headache
[08:30] <histo> OERIAS: Who loaded the machines?
[08:31] <OERIAS> A few novices
[08:31] <svetlana> Incompetent argument number 459
[08:31] <svetlana> Defaults of a distro are "worrying", you see; that Firefox has a lot of whatever-ware along the same lines somehow is not worrying people :P
[08:31] <Ben64> OERIAS: do you have an actual support question? this is not the correct channel for complaints
[08:31] <OERIAS> They were help me.
[08:31] <histo> OERIAS: this is not new to ubuntu
[08:32] <OERIAS> histo, they were running the previous distro..
[08:33] <trijntje> OERIAS: I don't understand why this is your or our problem. Let the tax firm take it up with the people who installed it
[08:33] <trijntje> or pay you or someone else to fix the problem
[08:34] <histo> OERIAS: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']   will remove it if you have a way to remote issue commands
[08:35] <master_> Hi, what is the best bug tracking system now? still bugzilla?
[08:36] <Guest63459> apt-get install language-support-zh
[08:36] <Guest63459> sorry
[08:36] <Mr-Newbie> hi guys i have installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a vmware and now i am tring to Install required packages
[08:36] <blackyboy> ahinsingh1140:
[08:36] <Mr-Newbie> ut i cant seem to get libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 installed
[08:37] <anuvrat> ls
[08:37] <Mr-Newbie> i get this error http://pastebin.com/AMe5Fbuz
[08:38] <Grille> hey, i want to upgrade my system but get some errors on aptitude safe-upgrade. os-release: 12.04.4  http://pastebin.com/5hQDejVn
[08:39] <histo> !info libglapi-mesa:i386 precise
[08:39] <histo> !info libglapi-mesa precise
[08:40] <histo> Mr-Newbie: what's output of uname -a
[08:41] <Mr-Newbie> histo: Linux ubuntu 3.11.0-15-generic #25~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:39:31 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:41] <histo> Mr-Newbie: is there a reason you are trying to instal the i386 variants?
[08:42] <Mr-Newbie> i am following this http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html so i can compile AOSP
[08:42] <Mr-Newbie> histo: i am following this http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html so i can compile AOSP
[08:43] <izabera> hey guys, can you help me? i'm trying to install ubuntu on my notebook
[08:43] <Mr-Newbie> histo: i found this http://bit.ly/1uNRx4Z
[08:44] <histo> Mr-Newbie: did you try that?
[08:44] <Mr-Newbie> histo: yes it worked :)
[08:45] <histo> Mr-Newbie: k
[08:45] <secstack> Do you have any suggestion for books about the culture and history of Linux/Unix/Open-Source?
[08:45] <histo> !ot | secstack
[08:47] <izabera> i made a usb pendrive and booted ubuntu from that, edited my partitions, installed ubuntu in a ext4-journaling partition with mbr in sda
[08:47] <izabera> so i was expecting to see grub when i restarted
[08:47] <histo> Grille: do you have ppa's enabled?
[08:47] <izabera> instead, windows started
[08:48] <histo> izabera: did you install grub?
[08:48] <izabera> idk... did i have to install it separately?
[08:48] <histo> izabera: you shouldn't depends on your method of install though.
[08:48] <izabera> what?
[08:49] <histo> izabera: if you used the graphical installer it will take care of that. If you used a text based installer it's the last step, it asks you where you want to install grub.
[08:49] <Grille> histo: no, not that i know
[08:49] <izabera> i used the graphical installer
[08:49] <izabera> nothing asked me to install grub or not
[08:50] <evghenii> Hi 2 all, question: where should I report, if I found a problem in Ubuntu Software Center? (Some app isn't updated in Store)
[08:50] <izabera> can i install it now?
[08:50] <histo> !grub2 | izabera
[08:50] <histo> evghenii: apps aren't updated after a release like that.
[08:52] <izabera> histo: i shouldn't have to fix anything since i didn't break it and just followed the instructions -.-
[08:52] <Grille> histo: last time i had this problem on an other system, i had a wrong parameter in sysctl/iscsi config…. but iscsi i have not installed on this system ..  so sysctl look like default … http://pastebin.com/Jf8AjYhC
[08:52] <evghenii> histo: I've found an IDE (Intellij IDEa). and it's of 13.0 version
[08:52] <evghenii> histo: and the actual version is 13.1.4
[08:55] <histo> evghenii: You mean it installs 13.1.4 but displays 13.0?
[08:58] <x9> what's a fast DNS server that's not Google's?
[08:58] <evghenii> histo: no, the official new version is 13.1, but Software Center offers only the 13.0
[08:59] <histo> evghenii: official to whom?  their website?
[08:59] <evghenii> histo: yew
[08:59] <Ben64> !latest | evghenii
[09:00] <gewoonm> quick non-Ubuntu question: is bash.org down for everybody?
[09:00] <svetlana> gewoonm, isitup.org says?
[09:00] <Ben64> gewoonm: if its non ubuntu, it doesn't belong in this channel
[09:01]  * svetlana nom
[09:02] <histo> gewoonm: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bash.org.html
[09:02] <gewoonm> Ben64: sorry, I won't do it again
[09:02] <gewoonm> histo, svetlana: thanks, apparently down for everybody. Another part of my internet history gone for ever (long live archive.org ;) )
[09:03] <evghenii> Thank you guys, for your help! BUY!
[09:03] <svetlana> They may re-appear, depending on the kind of event causing the downtime ...
[09:03] <svetlana> evghenii, See you later
[09:04] <gewoonm> svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:04] <svetlana> OK.
[09:12] <FredddyTom> i have a gimp window which is overflowing beyond the bottom of the screen
[09:13] <FredddyTom> how can i resize it so it fits
[09:13] <FredddyTom> dragging from top left and top right corners won't work
[09:14] <bcvery> FredddyTom, select the window, hit Alt F8 which will put you into resize mode
[09:15] <FredddyTom> hmm
[09:15] <FredddyTom> the vertical height seems to be fixed of the main editing window
[09:16] <FredddyTom> got it
[09:16] <FredddyTom> the stupid toolbar was stretching it out
[09:16] <trijntje> histo: I also asked in #rsync and it turns out that rsync doesnt copy hardlinks by default. Running rsync with -H solved the size difference between the two harddisks
[09:21] <nikolam_> does Canonical sell desktop Ubuntu support anymore?
[09:22] <histo> trijntje: -a doesn't do -HAX
[09:22] <nikolam_> and there is no ubuntu.com/services anymore...
[09:24] <nikolam_> it seems to be called "ubuntu advantage" and sold only in packs of 5... and is very costly
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <unopaste> histo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:24] <nikolam_> no longer price for one desktop support., ha?
[09:27] <nikolam_> "for less then 5 desktops support is already free for you.." HA.
[09:27] <nikolam_> why would I buy support for 5 of them, then?
[09:28] <histo> Sorry was leaning on touchpad
[09:28] <nikolam_> or 55
[09:45] <abailarri> hello. When I try to install truecrypt on my ubuntu 14 I see this on the terminal: This pachages will be removed:
[09:45] <abailarri>   google-chrome-stable:i386 libappindicator1:i386 libindicator7:i386
[09:45] <abailarri> why google chrome will be removed?
[09:55] <izabera> hey
[09:55] <izabera> histo
[09:55] <izabera> i installed boot-repair
[09:56] <izabera> i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7922452/ and when i restarted my system it booted windows without loading grub
[09:59] <izabera> any help?
[10:06] <englishsexy_boi> hey
[10:06] <santhosh> hai
[10:06] <pdo_fn14> izabera: You need to disable secure boot.
[10:07] <izabera> pdo_fn14: i have no idea how to do it
[10:07] <izabera> pdo_fn14: when i boot i don't even see "press f2 to config boot" or something, it just start windows
[10:08] <pdo_fn14> izabera: Can you tell me what your mainboard?.
[10:09] <pdo_fn14> izabera: found this for you http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx
[10:09] <izabera> pdo_fn14: http://www.acer.com.au/ac/en/AU/content/model/NX.M81SA.002
[10:10] <izabera> "from Windows, hold the Shift key while selecting Restart" wtf
[10:10] <izabera> lemme try
[10:27] <nick___> hi, anyone know why my usb ethernet dongle is only detected on                  plugging in, and not on boot
[10:45] <y4k> )/save
[11:07] <bosnjak> hi al
[11:08] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, greetings and welcome
[11:09] <bosnjak> i am on 13.04 and it is not supported anymore. I would like to upgrade to 14.04LTS but I'm afraid to mess up my PC since I need it for work. What are the chances I mess it up by do-dist-upgrade? My /home is on a separate partition... Is that enough to be secure?
[11:09] <bosnjak> also, if i would do a clean install, would i be able to just re-use my /home partition again and mount it, and everything would be preserved?
[11:09] <Grille> histo: oookay … i think there is a broken dependency … i have solved my error messages by manually downloading and installing initramfs-tools-bin_0.99ubuntu13.5_amd64.deb because apt-get and aptitude were not able to do so. here again my now solved problem http://pastebin.com/5hQDejVn
[11:11] <Grille> but in february ’14 the same issue was known vice versa … there some people need to manually install initramfs-tools_0.99ubuntu13.4_all.deb but i have to install the -bin
[11:12] <izabera> can you please help me? someone linked me this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx , i restarted my system, entered the bios setup, found that "secure boot" option and it was enabled but i couldn't disable it. instead i disabled efi  and that made the secure boot option disappear, but now i can't boot anything
[11:13] <izabera> now my pc is in legacy mode, i tried to run boot-repair but it complains and won't finish the job
[11:13] <Zelvar> Hi, can some1 help with ubuntu server install recuring mirror problem pls
[11:16] <bosnjak> ok, i don't undestand this. why is 12.04 not supported and i need to upgrade, if it says that LTS has 5 years support, according to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[11:17] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, you said you're on 13.04. that version is EOL
[11:18] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[11:18] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[11:18] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: i don't quite get it. First, I installed 12.04 and that was it. And then with time, some stuff got updated and I got to 13.04. I didn't do dist-upgrade. Is this possible, or did I had to do it at some time manually?
[11:19] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: I am on 13.04 atm, but not sure how that happened ://
[11:19] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: so you are saying that if I were on 12.04, i would have no problems with repose?
[11:19] <bosnjak> repos*
[11:20] <ubuntu-studio> u should upgrade to 12.10
[11:20] <ObrienDave> can't guarantee it bosnjak. 12.04 is LTS and still supported
[11:21] <Zelvar> Pls help to install server, always got stuch on checking mirror, shows only purple screen, dhcp config succeeded
[11:21] <ubuntu-studio> thatis should u do
[11:21] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: That would be very bad advice since 12.10 is end of life
[11:21] <ubuntu-studio> must be upgraded in sequence
[11:22] <ubuntu-studio> i recomend to reinstal
[11:22] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: if I would want to go to 14.04 now, i would first have to upgrade to 13.10 and then 14.04, right?
[11:22] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: i see
[11:22] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[11:23] <bosnjak> if I do a clean install of 14.04, and my /home partition is separate, will I have any issues or can I just continue use the /home as is?
[11:23] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, i can't give you an honest answer. someone with more experience should advise you on the proper method
[11:23] <bosnjak> in theory I always say this works like that, but I never tried it
[11:23] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: ok, thanks for the effort anyway :)
[11:24] <ubuntu-studio> u must back up all data before reinstalling
[11:24] <ubuntu-studio> don't be reckless
[11:26] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: i appreciate the advice
[11:26] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: but in theory, this should work as described, right?
[11:28] <ubuntu-studio> hi did u know how to make fake webcam in ubuntu?
[11:28] <Zelvar> Libc6udev package doesnt exist
[11:29] <ubuntu-studio> i was tried but not work
[11:30] <microm> in 12.04 cups fails to upgrade, and I think it's because file /etc/init.d/cups gives /etc/init.d/cups: broken symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[11:31] <ubuntu-studio> i didn't try in old version yet
[11:31] <izabera> i'm restating my problem since it's pretty bad and i followed what some of you said and it destroyed my computer
[11:31] <izabera> can you please help me? someone linked me this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx , i restarted my system, entered the bios setup, found that "secure boot" option and it was enabled but i couldn't disable it. instead i disabled efi  and that made the secure boot option disappear, but now i can't boot anything
[11:31] <izabera> now my pc is in legacy mode, i tried to run boot-repair but it complains and won't finish the job
[11:32] <ubuntu-studio> u have screenshoot?
[11:32] <izabera> screenshot of what?
[11:34] <ubuntu-studio> what pc/laptop?
[11:34] <karab44> hello
[11:34] <svetlana> hi
[11:34] <karab44> after latest system update I can't... log to facebook
[11:35] <karab44> this is weird because all other sites are working
[11:35] <izabera> ubuntu-studio: acer e1-522
[11:35] <svetlana> what does it say
[11:35] <karab44> fb works on all other android devices as well
[11:35] <ubuntu-studio> hi izebra u should try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[11:35] <svetlana> karab44, what does it say ?
[11:35] <svetlana> when you try to log in ?
[11:35] <svetlana> does it work with another web browser ?
[11:36] <karab44> nothing, I enter my password and screen is blank
[11:36] <svetlana> yeppers, please try with another web browser on your Ubuntu computer
[11:36] <karab44> it is like https://facebook.com and nothing happenes
[11:36] <svetlana> yea
[11:36] <izabera> ubuntu-studio: i said i can't log into windows and boot-repair fails
[11:37] <karab44> I tried with Ubuntu Web Browser and nothing
[11:38] <svetlana> Try chromium-browser
[11:38] <karab44> I cleaned FF cache and history and it didn't help
[11:38] <svetlana> Heard that. If anything on fx itself, you need to clear cookies..... but only after you see it work under other browser to rule out Install/Hardware issues
[11:46] <karab44> it doesn't work on chromium
[11:46] <karab44> it hangs with "Redirecting..." and blank screen
[11:47] <ObrienDave> some sites don't like chromium, try it with firefox
[11:48] <karab44> ????
[11:48] <karab44> Do you read?
[11:48] <ubuntu-studio> any mypaint user?
[11:48] <karab44> I can't access facebook, I use FF
[11:48] <karab44> any other sites work
[11:48] <svetlana> karab44, you must've checked with chromium or another fresh OS user, otherwise I'm stuck helping
[11:49] <svetlana> AH, it doesn't work on chromium
[11:49] <Grille> hmmm, my system is 12.04.4 LTS and i want to upgrade to 14.04 LTS, but do-release-upgrade say „No new release found“ although in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is Prompt=lts
[11:49] <svetlana> mmmmmm
[11:49] <karab44> 13:46:22] <karab44> it doesn't work on chromium
[11:49] <karab44> it was just fine yesterday and today's morning
[11:49] <karab44> and updates came up, with ubuntu base and security
[11:49] <svetlana> That side is being special..... I would try under a guest session -- click switch user and try using that to test
[11:50] <svetlana> Their site*
[11:50] <svetlana> I see your concern
[11:50] <ubuntu-studio> just using ubuntu 14.04 has no problem
[11:51] <Grille> ubuntu-studio: but it is not found by do-release-upgrade command ..
[11:51] <karab44> no, guest session doesn't help here
[11:52] <karab44> I can try to create new fb account and see what happen
[11:55] <karab44> it doesn't work
[12:00] <karab44> is it something wrong with DNS?
[12:07] <alinmear> hey guys! any ideas what's going on with my kdenlive; when i wanna add some effects to a clip (e.g. pan and zoom) the whole clip lags like hell and isn't playable in the compositor window; i have a i7 q4900m with nvidia quadro2100k and priop nvidia drivers installed! ... thx in advance
[12:07] <ObrienDave> oh great, i can't login normally. using guest account. grrrrrr
[12:09] <karab44> this is kinda weird... I reseted my router and now it works
[12:11] <gdfd> I find myself unable to install Ubuntu on a lenovo laptop
[12:11] <gdfd> The install itself is no problem, problem is that UEFI boots Windows instead of grub after install
[12:12] <bipul> Hello, I would like to know the logs generated by ubuntu. Is it in /var/log ?
[12:12] <bipul> If it is there then i can see the compressed file inside that directory.
[12:20] <Dartellum> quick (hopefully) question. Should I do a fresh install or upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? I have three desktops and one server running 12.04. I have read reviews for either option and seems mixed opinions on it.
[12:21] <karab44> oh schnapps! Problem appeared again
[12:22] <IdleOne> Dartellum: I would do fresh installs. Takes about the same amount of time.
[12:22] <matty_r> good evening
[12:23] <matty_r> is it possible to flip the top bar so the time is on the left?
[12:24] <Dartellum> Okay. Guess I would need to do a package backup and then restore. I did that when I switched my one son's computer. However, for the server, I am running DNS and DHCP and had some challenges getting that to work. These easier under 14.04?
[12:27] <hakim> hello all
[12:29] <hakim> im having issues mounting a drive now ..i added another sata drive, they both worked fine for a few minutes. then i set both drives to automount on start up rebooted to test and now i cant get one drive to mount anywhere.
[12:30] <compdoc> automount how?
[12:30] <compdoc> fstab?
[12:30] <hakim> via disk
[12:30] <hakim> i went into disks and settings
[12:31] <hakim> i get an error when attempting to mount one of the drives
[12:36] <HiMaX> hello, is there a way when viewing a project in netbeans to only show the opened files and folders of that project, instead of a mix of files from other open projects ?
[12:37] <ses1984> i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i7/16GB RAM
[12:37] <HiMaX> I just wana click on a project and only have its files show in the files tab menu. Then when clicking another project have only its files showing in the files tab window.
[12:37] <HiMaX> Its an IDE for goodness sakes! Surely it cannot be that hard to do such a feature in java for the netbeans devs.
[12:39] <hakim> im having issues mounting a drive now ..i added another sata drive, they both worked fine for a few minutes. then i set both drives to automount on start up rebooted to test and now i cant get one drive to mount anywhere.
[12:39] <DevDaemon> Hi, I need help in displaylink adapter
[12:39] <DevDaemon> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[12:39] <ChaseTrains> anyone else getting a weird 5MB update?
[12:40] <ChaseTrains> with malformated description of weird characters?
[12:40] <Grille> ChaseTrains: where you get it?
[12:40] <kostkon> ChaseTrains, which package
[12:40] <ChaseTrains> the software update thing showed up. Couldn't see anything about it
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> no info, nothing.. just a bunch of ... encoding messup
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> something something.
[12:41] <Pici> Very descriptive.
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> how do you get the update manger to show up? I can't find it
[12:41] <kostkon> !paste | hakim, for starters, paste the errors you are getting
[12:43] <ChaseTrains> oh it's fixed now.. probably some gtk problems. The Software Updater looks normal now
[12:46] <dohzer> Does anyone here have good knowledge on the /etc/udev/rules.d configurations?
[12:49] <ovrflw0x> sometimes when i wakeup laptop from sleep (suspend), laptop "hangs"! giving this message : 'ERROR @wl_wowl_ind_wake_reason : Unable to get wake reason, err = -95' Now, how to fix this? which channel i should join to resolve this issue?
[12:50] <beanee> Hello guys girls, if you have something to report to re update team where do you do it?
[12:52] <linuxgirl> beanee: What do you mean?
[12:52] <hakim> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/kLY29gRJ
[12:52] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: Does the system work normally?
[12:53] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: Its seems like a wirless adapter issue
[12:53] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: What Wireless adapter do you use?
[12:54] <beanee> linuxgirl see.. my wifi dosnt connect automaticly because of vpn
[12:56] <hakim> here is the pastbin error i get when i now try to mount a drive that worked fine before adding another sata drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[12:56] <linuxgirl> beanee: What wireless adapter do you have?
[13:00] <eatyourgreenery> I'm trying to record stuff going across my soundcard.
[13:00] <linuxabc> why do many startup commands are setted up with an delay (sleep 5s) ?
[13:01] <kstenger> hello, today one of the pc's at the office ran an update and suddenly the menu that appears at the top right corner (the one with the configuration options and the shutdown button) plus the volume icon and some others altogether, disappeared from the screen. using gnome metacity in this case, but i don't know if this has something to do with it. Any clues of what could happen?
[13:02] <kstenger> linuxabc: because sometimes the necesary services are still not up for the command to run sucessfully too early at the bootup process
[13:03] <linuxabc> ah okay so this could be the problem why my guake is not transparent if i use it at startup, but is transparent if i start it manually?
[13:04] <kstenger> I don't know what guake is, but it sounds like this could be a cause, yes
[13:05] <sasds> Anyone else had problems getting a computer to boot grub after installing ubuntu? It just keeps going to Windows/BitLocker prompt
[13:05] <kostkon> kstenger, you can put them back by alt+right clicking on the panel and selecitng add to panel
[13:05] <sasds> ubuntu files are present in the EFI part
[13:05] <sasds> tried both with and without secure boot enabled
[13:05] <kstenger> kostkon: thank's for the hint, let's try it
[13:09] <timm0e> Hey Guys, can somebody help me to add LID0 to my /proc/acpi/wakeup file?
[13:09] <bng> hi, I am experiencing problems with my mouse, it behaves like it hits invisible borders or maybe like it would snap to some imaginary edges in the middle of the screen
[13:09] <bng> I ma not 100% sure but it is probably happening only with my BT adapter attached, is that possible, what do you think?
[13:13] <kstenger> kostkon: that solved the menu, even when it's not the same pretty menu that used to appear, but I could not find how to add the volume. I thought it was part of the notification area, but the notification area is showing and the volume is not. where should the volume icon be found?
[13:15] <kostkon> kstenger, i believe there are two notification areas in gnome fallback, one for the gtk tray and one for indicators. i might be wrong though
[13:16] <rima> i have problems downloading and installing software. can anyone help?
[13:16] <kstenger> kostkon: oh, what if some is not showing in the options to add to the bar whan you Alt+Right Click on it?
[13:16] <kstenger> when*
[13:17] <regex101-8970> http://bit.ly/T0D1oC
[13:18] <hyde> rima: at irc, you should usually just ask about your problem. IOW, do not ask to ask, just ask.
[13:18] <rima> ok
[13:18] <rima> my software center is missing
[13:18] <rima> and when i try to download it from terminal, it says i have help broken packages
[13:18] <rima> and i cant install or download anything
[13:19] <codeROOTs> hi there
[13:19] <kostkon> kstenger, some info here. you could try reinstalling the packages mentioned in this post: http://askubuntu.com/a/72764/1651
[13:19] <hyde> rima: try running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[13:20] <whiskers75> if I move around partitions, how do I get GRUB to realize the new position of /boot?
[13:20] <whiskers75> update-grub?
[13:20] <rima> hyde still does not work
[13:20] <mzaza> I have dual graphics laptop, I had nVidia card working fine and I could switch between them untill suddenly my Ubuntu doesn't see my nVidia card anymore in restricted drivers, any ideas?
[13:21] <pbx> in the launcher, software updater is wiggling.  when i click it, i see no window. where might it be hiding? other apps acting normally.
[13:21] <hyde> rima: then read the error message, and google with that :)
[13:21] <rima> hyde this is what i get when i try to install http://pastebin.com/Zqr7Dpq2
[13:21] <rima> hyde i have, i cant find a solution
[13:21] <rima> i was hoping you guys could help
[13:22] <rima> i have done everything any site i could find has told me
[13:22] <codeROOTs> try to reinstall ubuntu-sso-client-gtk
[13:22] <hyde> yeah, when you do that, it should say why it can't be installed
[13:23] <hyde> there's probably some strange conflict
[13:23] <hyde> so it may suggest to remove something and install that, in which case look what it is going to uninstall before accepting...
[13:23] <rima> ok
[13:23] <hyde> btw, how did you create the situation?
[13:24] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:24] <rima> i had a problem installing software so i followed instructoins online on how to fix it. then 1 problem lead to another
[13:25] <rima> what is the command for reinstalling that thing?
[13:25] <hyde> apt-get install ...
[13:25] <rtur> Hey. In the Build-Depends section of a control file I want to specify libboost-dev(=1.49), the current Version is 1.49.0.ubuntu1 but to me only the 1.49 matters. I try to build the package with sbuild and it somehow doesn't find the package, what is the right syntax for it ?
[13:26] <hyde> rima: one thing you can try is apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:26] <whiskers75> GRUB question: if I shift around partitions (including the /boot partition), will update-grub notify GRUB of the new locations or will I need to run grub-install again?
[13:26] <rima> hyde the dist-upgrade gave an error saying could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock etc.
[13:27] <hyde> did you remember to run it as root
[13:27] <hyde> or so that no other program was using the pacakage information
[13:27] <rtur> whiskers75: update-grub regenerates the menu file, so I guess yes it should work
[13:28] <whiskers75> rtur: but will update-grub notify grub that the /boot partition moved?
[13:28] <rima> ok im tyring again
[13:28] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:29] <rima> ok i ran as root, 0 upgraded, 0 not upgraded, etc
[13:29] <rima> all 0
[13:29] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.
[13:29] <rtur> whiskers75: Oh.. probably not. Since update-grub only calls grub-mkconfig -o path
[13:30] <hyde> rima: so what does it say when you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sso-client-gtk
[13:30] <whiskers75> rtur: I'm worried about deleting two partitions and creating a new partition before the ubuntu etended partion
[13:31] <whiskers75> extended*
[13:31] <whiskers75> partition*
[13:31] <codeROOTs> Can you install Appgrid?
[13:31] <codeROOTs> or you get errors there to?
[13:32] <rima> .
[13:32] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.  Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? Im a newby.
[13:33] <rima> for some reason its not pasting in the irc chat
[13:33] <rtur> whisker75: Sorry, I'm really no expert on grub :) . I guess you will have to run grubinstall after moving the boot partition.
[13:33] <whiskers75> sure
[13:33] <whiskers75> thanks
[13:33] <rima> hyde http://pastebin.com/kxR9vX0Z
[13:33] <rima> thats the error i get
[13:34] <hyde> rima: also, search for "ubuntu held broken packages", at least for me the first google hit looks relevant
[13:34] <kstenger> thanks kostkon, I found this on the way http://askubuntu.com/questions/363354/the-sound-volume-indicator-disappeard-ubuntu-13-10 and it did the trick perfectly. it's something very close to what your other link sugested
[13:35] <rima> i have already gone to that site :/ it dint help much. ill do their process again though
[13:35] <kostkon> kstenger, :)
[13:35] <hyde> rima, which Ubuntu version you actually have?
[13:36] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.  Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? I downloaded it via browser.
[13:36] <rima> hyde i have ununtu 12.10
[13:37] <hyde> rima: if unsure: cat /etc/issue
[13:37] <hyde> ok
[13:37] <rima> thats another problem, it doesnt upgrade to the newer version
[13:37] <hyde> well, that's not supported any more I think.
[13:37] <hyde> I think you can only upgrade it to 13.04
[13:38] <rima> i've tried to upgrade it i couldnt, should i uninstall ubuntu and install the latest version?
[13:38] <hyde> (and then 13.10 and 14.04... then you can stay with 14.04 until 16.04 comes out, because you can upgrade from LTS to LTS)
[13:38] <hyde> rima: if reinstall is reasonable, then that's probably the easiest way to get a working system
[13:39] <rima> ok thank you very much for your support
[13:39] <hyde> it should be possible to fix the issue, then go through those upgrades to latest version, but... probably more hassle than reinstall
[13:40] <rima> yes, i dont have any important files or programs, i can just reinstall
[13:41] <rima> bye :)
[13:41] <deronnax> hi, UI have a problem with uwsgi
[13:42] <whiskers75> Can someone check if this system will boot? (output from boot info script) http://sprunge.us/UXEW
[13:42] <deronnax> I use the uwsgi from a third-party repo, and I don't want it to start automaticaly, because I already manage him with supervisord
[13:42] <whiskers75> I don't have a LiveCD handy, and can't make one, so I need to be careful here
[13:43] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:43] <acetakwas_> I need help with using golden Dict offline, pls?
[13:43] <deronnax> but it keeps popping and running, nothing work to stop/disable it (service uwsgi stop, update-rc.d uwsgi disable)
[13:43] <deronnax> now I have about 15 running uwsgi ; each time I try to stop, there is more pooping
[13:45] <sdfer>  For some reason my laptop just *wont* boot grub after having installed ubuntu. It just keep booting Windows
[13:45] <sdfer> ive tried with secure boot on and off, nothing
[13:55] <acetakwas_>  Help with offline GoldenDict on Ubuntu please?
[13:56] <mzaza> I had nVidia working probably with Ubuntu, and now all of a sudden when I open the nVidia control panel I find it not detected. I have played with some laptop battery saving modules could it have done the problem?
[13:56] <acetakwas_> How do I save word definitions?
[13:56] <streulma> the mouse on my Macbook Pro 13 inch 2012 is heavy under Ubuntu, is there a fix without using xserver xorg mtrack?
[13:57] <mzaza> I have installed PowerTop before, could it have caused the problems?
[13:58] <AlexPortable> hi
[13:59] <AlexPortable> what was the software called to make photo's with webcam?
[13:59] <streulma> AlexPortable cheese
[13:59] <AlexPortable> thanks
[14:00] <streulma> AlexPortable default installed in 14.04
[14:00] <bolt> What could cause /etc/shells to be missing? I logged in to troubleshoot vsftpd on an Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS VPS and it's complaining about that file not being there.
[14:02] <RalfJ> hi - is it possible to install ruby2 without ruby1.9? for some reason, the first seems to depend on the latter. which doesnt make much sense to me... Im not 14.04.
[14:02] <RalfJ> *Im on 14.04
[14:03] <TeraJL> i've been having this bug almost since ubuntu 12.04, and it's one of my most used shortcuts, can somone test it and mark it if it affetcts you, so you help me get fixed
[14:04] <pbx> RalfJ, what have you tried?
[14:05] <TeraJL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1349436
[14:06] <RalfJ> pbx: I apt-get installed ruby2.0
[14:06] <RalfJ> but that depends on ruby which depends on ruby1.9
[14:09] <whiskers75> help, I broke my grub
[14:09] <whiskers75> running bootrepair
[14:10] <whiskers75> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924301/
[14:10] <whiskers75> says unknown filesystem
[14:10] <joe-w-bimedina> Can someone show me how I can add a hotkey that uses the f3 and f4 keys in gedit I have tried many things but those 2 keys(actually reassigning all f* keys) won't work.
[14:10] <whiskers75> when I boot it from a vmdk
[14:12] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:13] <tolbertm14041> how do you change the motd, it keeps getting reset right after i reboot
[14:15] <jayar> looking for something like Android Device Manager for Ubuntu
[14:15] <simpleuser> Hi there. How to use bluetooth ? I’m using Xubuntu with i3 (instead of Xubuntu session).
[14:16] <Kaco> hello ty vole
[14:18] <Kaco> Pa
[14:18] <rodd> Hi, is there a tool where I can change keys in my keyboard? ex. replace pageUp with Home
[14:19] <Nightling> hello, anyone tried to comple grsecurity patched kernels on a laptop thats uses legacy nvidia driver?
[14:20] <Nightling> it compiled successfuly but when i boot it up its generating errors for the nvdia module and stuff that uses it crashes
[14:27] <samthewildone> Oh boy, I don't know what ubuntu did but, 14.04.1 works like a charm.
[14:27] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:27] <samthewildone> Everything runs amazingly smooth for the first time and works.
[14:28] <samthewildone> So far I had one system crash but, nothing is perfect.
[14:28] <neilmalk> hi
[14:28] <samthewildone> neilmalk, hey
[14:29] <neilmalk> does anyone know where "nautilus-actions" stores the scripts? i want to have a copy of that but i can't find it
[14:29] <samthewildone> I would believe that would be in the ~./username folder.
[14:30] <Eduardo_> Hi, i have problems with GRUB instalation, "cant install the pakage GRUB-PC in /target/ the install system cant run without manager GRUB"
[14:30] <samthewildone> someone else will correct me if I am wrong.
[14:30] <Eduardo_> :'( Sorry my bad english
[14:30] <neilmalk> hi samthewildone, i was reading it stores it in gconf but i still can't find it. Also i tried under .config but no luck
[14:31] <neilmalk> Eduardo_ google for "ubuntu boot-repair", i used that method with livecd and it works fine
[14:33] <Eduardo_> Believe me i try all the posible solutions in web, but cant repair grub, the only way to run an Operating System is with Hirens Boo CD
[14:34] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:34] <hakim> can anyne help please
[14:35] <neilmalk> Eduardo_ try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVx86VbRJkQ
[14:35] <Guest92804> What's the output of  dmesg | tail ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hakim: is it USB based?
[14:35] <hakim> no sata
[14:36] <hakim> i tried something i found online to get it to work and now the terminal is flashing a bunch of numbers and taking a very long time
[14:36] <neilmalk> hakim, what did you try?
[14:36] <hakim> let me find the link
[14:36] <codeROOTs> Eduardo_ try this one to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA
[14:37] <Eduardo_> i will see :)
[14:37] <hakim> http://askubuntu.com/questions/322070/how-can-i-fix-mounting-my-data-drive-after-a-crash
[14:37] <neilmalk> good luck Eduardo_ :)
[14:37] <hakim> i tried matty's answer
[14:37] <hakim> last bit of it
[14:37] <hakim> well i did it in order
[14:38] <hakim> so now my terminal is doing something with the drive and its taking a long time
[14:39] <neilmalk> hakim, that's a proably a ton of work.
[14:39] <Guest92804> Wait for it to complete hakim
[14:39] <hakim> dont want to stop it as it might make things worst
[14:39] <hakim> ok
[14:39] <neilmalk> hakim, as Guest92804 says, don't stop it
[14:39] <hakim> okit stopped now its back to this
[14:39] <hakim> hold on
[14:40] <dd__> le wifi ne fonctionne pas avec xubuntu 14.04 que j'ai installé je suis totalement débutant merci de votre aide
[14:40] <hakim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924510/
[14:40] <hakim> thats where i am now on the terminal
[14:40] <hakim> i have been hitting "yes" for a very long time
[14:40] <Guest92804> Keep hitting yes
[14:40] <hakim> okay
[14:41] <hakim> was holing it
[14:41] <rypervenche> !fr | dd__
[14:41] <hakim> and i think one of them may have been a very long one
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> hakim: probably easier to wipe clean and restore from backups
[14:42] <hakim> okay it seems to be done
[14:42] <hakim> assuming i have back ups
[14:42] <hakim> data on the drive wasnt critcal
[14:42] <hakim> so i didnt back it up
[14:42] <hakim> but i would still like to get it back
[14:43] <hakim> actionparsnip: you think its corrupted data andi should just write it off?
[14:44] <hakim> well that didnt work
[14:44] <hakim> still get the same error code when trying to access the drive
[14:44] <hakim> well when trying to mount it
[14:44] <daftykins> hakim: how many superblocks have you tried?
[14:44] <hakim> one
[14:44] <daftykins> ...
[14:44] <ikonia> try them all
[14:44] <daftykins> keep going.
[14:44] <ikonia> the last guy I helped got luck on the last one
[14:45] <hakim> will all of them take that long daftykins: ?
[14:45] <hakim> okay
[14:45] <daftykins> hakim: how long is a piece of string?
[14:45] <hakim> ??
[14:45] <hakim> ill keep going
[14:47] <chang_> .
[14:50] <hakim> are ssd's more reliable than regular HDD's?
[14:52] <compdoc> hakim, they are pretty reliable, but they can fail, just like hdds
[14:52] <Kaco> reliability improved in past few years, and ssds are now comparable to hdds
[14:53] <hakim> so they were not as reliable in the past
[14:53] <ChaosTheory> hi all
[14:53] <tonyt> can someone tell me what the terninal command is to see the current path?
[14:53] <hakim> but now reliability is about the same
[14:55] <rww> tonyt: pwd
[14:56] <rww> tonyt: unless you meant "path" as in the list of directories searched when you type in a command, in which case echo $PATH
[14:56] <tonyt> k ill try
[14:56] <ChaosTheory> the unity desktop isn't loading after i login, i logged into a guest session and everything is working fine. i did install an update to unity yesterday so i'm guessing that's what has broken it, what do people suggest to fix this?
[14:58] <ChaosTheory> these are the packages that broke unity http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924664/
[14:59] <daftykins> ChaosTheory: try - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:00] <hakim> is there a faster way to fix the superblocks? one that doesnt require me to hold y down?
[15:02] <rww> hakim: add the -y parameter to your fsck command
[15:02] <Nivex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1344762
[15:02] <gerep> Hi all. I'm trying to run this on my bash: for i in {1..10} mkdir "dir_$i", so it will create 10 folders (dir_1, dir_2, etc) I ran this on my ArchLinux and on a CentOS but when I run this on ubuntu, it creates a directory like this: dir_{1..10}, what am I doing wrong?
[15:02] <Nivex> The silence is deafening.
[15:03] <ChaosTheory> daftykins, i tried the script method and that has done the trick, thank you very much!
[15:03] <hakim> rww: sorry bud im a total noob at this
[15:03] <hakim> dont know how to do that
[15:03] <Theory> gerep: is this a script file with #!/bin/sh at the top, rather than #!/bin/bash ?
[15:03] <gerep> #!/bin/bash
[15:03] <gerep> Theory: #!/bin/bash
[15:05] <hakim> rww: e2fsck -y -b SUPERBLOCK_NUMBER_HERE /dev/sda1 ???? is that what i use?
[15:05] <simpleuser> How to use bluetooth ? I’m using Xubuntu with i3 (instead of Xubuntu session).
[15:06] <Ironwave> Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? I downloaded it via browser.
[15:06] <MacroMan> I'm struggling to understand cron syntax at the moment.
[15:06] <rww> Ironwave: sudo apt-get install apache2
[15:06] <jagat_> i am unable to locate the openstack icehouse packages on ubuntu 12.O4 even after installing and updating all the required packages.please help
[15:07] <MacroMan> I want to run every five minutes, so I'm thinking "1/5 * * * * script.sh". Will that work?
[15:07] <Ironwave> rww: Thanks, worked instantly!
[15:08] <rww> MacroMan: change the 1 at the start to *
[15:08] <rww> MacroMan: otherwise, yes, that'll work
[15:08] <MacroMan> Ironwave, it may be easier to install a lamp stack if you want a web server: sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[15:09] <MacroMan> Which will install Apache, MySQL and PHP
[15:09] <daftykins> well guys, a certain free Linux course starts today so we might get more users doing their homework
[15:09] <MacroMan> rww, thanks
[15:09] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Im following a tutorial, im completely new at all of this, so I wont know what to do. Thanks for the sugestion, Ill read a bit up on LAMP
[15:10] <TheBlindOwl> Hello . Noob here. i have an issue. i'm running Lubuntu right now but i need to install Windows(need of some windows-only programs in work) and dual boot. I dont exactly know the hardware inside my pc. i need help from a more advanced user who can help me find out what hardware exactly i have so that i can download the needed windows drivers for them. any help will be appreciated
[15:10] <MacroMan> Well, if you install them seperately, you'll have to configure them all manually to work together. This may be what you want as you are learning, but in any real world situation, I wouldn't waste my time and just install lamp
[15:11] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: this is not Windows support.
[15:11] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: go and try ##hardware
[15:11] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, Just run a virtual machine. Install VirtualBox
[15:11] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Thanks for the sugestion, Ill do as you say!
[15:11] <jagat_>  i am unable to locate the openstack icehouse packages on ubuntu 12.O4 even after installing and updating all the required packages.please help
[15:11] <TheBlindOwl> daftykins, I know . and i told you that i'm already on lubuntu. i need tools to detect my hardware my friend. no need to act like that
[15:12] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: your issue pertains to Windows, thus it isn't appropriate here.
[15:13] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: if it's a factory system, look it up online - if it's a custom build, remove the side panel and read model numbers. all this and more, available in ##hardware
[15:13] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, or try Wine if you just want to run a couple of Window$ programs
[15:13] <TheBlindOwl> daftykins, So this operating system has no tool to find out what hardware is exactly the OS installed on?
[15:13] <basketball> when i go to addictinggames.com to play a game in chromium it says No Plugin to display content
[15:13] <MacroMan> basketball, That's because chromium doesn't have Flash installed
[15:13] <MacroMan> Use Chrome instead
[15:13] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: that's beside the point
[15:13] <TheBlindOwl> MacroMan, Both Wine and Virtualbox were unable to run my applications properly.
[15:13] <Ironwave> MacroMan: command sudo apt-get install lamp-server gives the following error. E:Unable to locate package lamp-server
[15:14] <MacroMan> Ironwave, Sorry, out a hat on the end: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[15:14] <Azer> TheBlindOwl, /proc/
[15:14] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Thanks, worked instantly!
[15:15] <MacroMan> Ironwave, np
[15:15] <leion> after you are on windows i would have a MS software for you:TheBlindOwl
[15:15] <topkek32juan> hi ubuntu seem slow for me
[15:16] <leion> everest
[15:16] <leion> and aida64
[15:16] <topkek32juan> i7 3770, 8 gb ddr3 ram, 256 gb samsung 840 pro ssd
[15:16] <topkek32juan> shouldnt b slow???
[15:16] <topkek32juan> GTX 660 TI
[15:17] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, There are tools in Ubuntu to find out hardware info. Try hardinfo: sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[15:17] <leion> are you slow in x-window?
[15:17] <Azer> topkek32juan, slow is a relative term
[15:17] <topkek32juan> Azer: graphix
[15:17] <topkek32juan> and it tear rly bad
[15:17] <leion> maybe you should have a Nvidia driver
[15:18] <TheBlindOwl> MacroMan,  thanks alot
[15:18] <topkek32juan> i do
[15:18] <Azer> topkek32juan, have you run glxgears?
[15:18] <topkek32juan> nvidia binary driver version 331.38 from nviai-331
[15:18] <leion> download it on Nvidia official website
[15:19] <topkek32juan> yes it work
[15:19] <topkek32juan> 303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.462 FPS
[15:19] <topkek32juan> 300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.995 FPS
[15:19] <daftykins> leion: that's not what we advise around here.
[15:19] <hakim> will this keep me from having to hold down y while fixing superblocks sudo e2fsck -y -b 163840 /dev/sdb1
[15:19] <leion> sorry
[15:19] <Azer> topkek32juan,  301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.191 FPS
[15:19] <hakim> yup it worked
[15:19] <hakim> nevermind
[15:20] <leion> ^_^
[15:20] <topkek32juan> do u have tear problem Azer
[15:20] <Azer> topkek32juan, i do not.
[15:20] <topkek32juan> how u fix
[15:21] <hakim> is there a way i can use my computer as a cloud without needing hosting or a domain name?
[15:21] <leion> @leion
[15:25] <MacroMan> hakim, What do you mean by cloud? A web server? File server?
[15:26] <topkek32juan> hakim: maybe owncloud?
[15:26] <hakim> like dropbox...but using my own pc @ MacroMan
[15:27] <hakim> topkek32juan: im trying owncloud but dont i need https for that?
[15:28] <LordDoskias> hello, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and just installed linux-tools but i still can't use perf. I have /usr/bin/perf and i get: perf not found for kernel 3.2.0-65
[15:28] <LordDoskias> oh, linux-tools has installed perf for kernel -67 and I'm running -65 ..
[15:28] <arif-ali> hakim, no, you don't need https for owncloud
[15:28] <topkek32juan> hakim: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-self-hosted-dropbox-alternatives-tested/
[15:28] <arif-ali> I use owncloud myself
[15:29] <hakim> how do you access it with your mobile device @arif-ali
[15:29] <techie_ps> hi
[15:30] <arif-ali> hakim: using the owncloud client for android
[15:30] <hakim> how do i connect it to my desktop..it says cant establish connection server took too long to respond
[15:30] <hakim> andorid client is saying that
[15:31] <arif-ali> are you on the same network, and then you need to know the IP of your machine to connect
[15:33] <hakim> no
[15:33] <hakim> im using my mobile network
[15:33] <hakim> i want to be able to connect from anywhere
[15:33] <arif-ali> if you are not on the same network, or the machine is not routable then it won't work
[15:34] <topkek32juan> port foward
[15:34] <hakim> ohh i see
[15:34] <hakim> yeah i want access from anywhere
[15:35] <arif-ali> hakim: I tend to NAT port 80 from my router to my server, and then have NAT reflection from internally done
[15:35] <arif-ali> and then you should be able to access the server from the external IP
[15:35] <techie_ps> hey guys i am getting an error while extracting a zip file on my ubuntu os.....it consists of so many pics..I setup a password..even though i enter correct password its giving same error
[15:37] <zeust> wassup
[15:38] <fridaynext> I'm having some trouble creating a RAID5 array with four disks I've just formatted/partitioned
[15:38] <fridaynext> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=S6n34h9w
[15:38] <fridaynext> I'm getting the message "mdadm: super1.x cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy" - but it's not busy.  Any ideas?
[15:42] <fridaynext> I'm not sure what this output means, but I'm guessing it has something to do with why sdb1 is 'busy' - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hRfEHjYm
[15:42] <daftykins> fridaynext: what kind of NAS is this?
[15:43] <fridaynext> daftykins: home built.
[15:43] <fridaynext> running ubuntu 14.04.1
[15:43] <daftykins> ok so it is actually a PC, good stuff
[15:43] <daftykins> yeah inactive doesn't sound good. i have no experience with that though
[15:43] <jayar> looking for something like Android Device Manager for Ubuntu
[15:44] <fridaynext> daftykins: I just 'stopped' the array, now i'll try to rebuild it again (doesn't show up in mdstat this time)
[15:44] <daftykins> jayar: 'like' ? what about it itself? :P
[15:44] <jayar> track your device when lost
[15:45] <fridaynext> These four drives were used in a previous RAID5 array, and it seems there's still data 'stuck' to them.
[15:45] <fridaynext> Ah, I just tried to recreate it, and I think it worked...
[15:47] <fridaynext> wow, the 'recovery' is going incredibly slow.  Why does it take so long to build a RAID5 array with nothing on it?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: its writing and reading data. Depends on drive speeds etc
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: but what is it writing/reading?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: its rebuilding the array. Never worked in a server environment?
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: yes, I set this server up about a year ago, and I'm now migrating it, but I deleted all the data on the drives, so they're all empty
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: no, as in a data centre or similar?
[15:48] <fridaynext> I guess I haven't totally wrapped my head around what creating a RAID array entails.
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: nope, haven't ever worked in a DC.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: a drive fails, you pull it out, replace it then the data has to be rebuilt on the new drive
[15:49] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: I understand that - I just don't understand why the initial setup - with no data on it whatsoever, would take more than a couple moments.
[15:49] <jayar> never mind. i'll just it from my windows machine
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: it still needs to recalculate stuff and setup the array-ness on each drive
[15:52] <loculinux> holaa
[15:53] <wulong710> hello. When i use "nemo ./" . xubuntu show me warning "Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-...: Connection refused".  I google for this error, but can't resolve it. Anyone had met with this situation?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Wujiheng: try:     nemo `pwd`
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> !info nemo
[15:58] <Pici> wulong710: does it still open?
[16:02] <Ironwave> Hi, Installed lamp. run apache2 successfully, but when I invoke mysql it says Unknown job.  ex. service mysql start
[16:04] <MacroMan> Ironwave, You may need to start via init.d: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[16:05] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Ill play with that thanks
[16:08] <seanh_> Anyone else having a problem with Unity stopping responding to mouse clicks or scrolls?
[16:09] <seanh_> On 14.04
[16:09] <seanh_> Running 'unity' in a terminal fixes it, but it keeps breaking every few seconds
[16:09] <seanh_> Just started happening today, so I'm wondering if it's due to a recent update
[16:10] <tsuyoshi_> is for xubuntu opera better or firefox?
[16:11] <ikonia> no
[16:11] <dd13> hello i installed ubunutu on my asus g75 laptop when ever i close the laptop screen  it goes to sleep when i open it the keyboard stop working and i cant use it to enter my password
[16:11] <ikonia> it's whatever one you like best / meets your needs best
[16:14] <dd13> any help please ?
[16:14] <dd13> hello i installed ubunutu on my asus g75 laptop when ever i close the laptop screen it goes to sleep when i open it the keyboard stop working and i cant use it to enter my password
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> seanh_: have you tried a non-compoziting session like XFCE (installable with: sudo apt-get install xfce4)
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> dd13: let me search the web....
[16:15] <seanh_> ActionParsnip: I may have to try changing window managers, yes
[16:15] <seanh_> I'm kind of surprised that Unity is this broken though
[16:15] <dd13> actionparsnip Yes or atleast give me keywords i can use in my serach
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> dd13: have you tried adding the boot option: atkbd.reset
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> dd13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335007
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> dd13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194 may help
[16:22] <cuddylier> hi
[16:23] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to bring up all interfaces on ubuntu 14.04 instead of manually bringing up each one using ifup eth0:5 as an example.
[16:23] <dd13> actionparsnip thx ill check them now
[16:23] <sakhre> My VirtualBox stopped working after the recent kernel update. I tried everything I found in duckduckgo.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> sakhre: can you boot the old kernel?
[16:28] <sakhre> ActionParsnip, yes, already tried that. Didn't work.
[16:28] <sakhre> It booted, but still VB had the same message.
[16:29] <TJ-> cuddylier: See "man interfaces" and the description of the keyword "auto"
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sakhre: ask in #vbox too
[16:31] <cuddylier> hi
[16:31] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to bring up all interfaces on ubuntu 14.04 instead of manually bringing up each one using ifup eth0:5 as an example.
[16:31] <weueyi> warning
[16:31] <weueyi>  you may be  watched
[16:31] <weueyi> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[16:31] <weueyi> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[16:31] <weueyi> do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??
[16:31] <weueyi> ÊÍÐíÑ
[16:31] <weueyi> warning
[16:31] <unopaste> weueyi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:33] <matty_r> does ifup --all work?
[16:33] <matty_r> cuddylier http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ifup.8.html
[16:36] <Ironwave> MacroMan: e:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start    and  d:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start   Both answer   No such file or directory.       whereis mysql     mysql: /usr/bin/mysql/etc/mysql/usr/lib/     (and so on, thus I do hae it on my machiene.)
[16:41] <patrick_> im sorry that this is off topic but does anybody have a wikipedia acount i can use?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> patrick_: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <crazysheep> hi, im a linux/ubuntu noob
[16:42] <crazysheep> can someone briefly explain udisks and /etc/fstab
[16:42] <crazysheep> how they interact and how they are related?
[16:43] <patrick_> ok
[16:43] <patrick_> thanks
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: udisks is an abstraction for enumerating block devices and performing operations on them, such as creating file systems or mounting. Any application can access the org.freedesktop.UDisks service on the system message bus. Some operations (such as formatting disks etc.) are restricted using PolicyKit.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: https://launchpad.net/udisks
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: first link when I searched the web
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: when a new disk is added, if there is an entry for it in /etc/fstab it will be used
[16:44] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: sure but thats a lot of jargon when i dont know all that much atm
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: time to go find out what the jargon means....
[16:45] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: so can i think of /etc/fstab as a passive file that automounts while udisks is a higher level interface for something like the 'mount' command?
[16:46] <zputrle> hello
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: yes but fstab is used to mount partitions at boot too
[16:46] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[16:47] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: i have an issue where i can't change permissions of files on an ntfs windows partition
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: NTFS cant hold Linux ACLs
[16:47] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: i've found a few links that suggest changing the /etc/fstab file to have a few options such as exec
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: you can only set the access for the whole partition at mount and it applies to all datas
[16:48] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: is there such a [set of] option[s] when using udisks?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: you wont be able to run your Windows games in Wine if they are installed in Windows
[16:48] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: just trying to execute some scripts/compiled c/cpp programs atm
[16:49] <vroomfondel> how comes that the shell commands lag behind the file system state? I 'ls -l'ed and the files which were generated there a minute ago didn't show up. After a while they did.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: it will need to be mounted and allow execution
[16:50] <apple> hiä
[16:50] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: is there an option when running udisks to allow that? or do i have to give it an entry in /etc/fstab with the appropriate options?
[16:51] <Guest10883> hi
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: I'd use fstab personally but I dont use NTFS, maybe there is a more graceful method
[16:51] <Apple1> hi
[16:51] <jimi_> Where can I see a list of touchscreen supported laptops laptop mode, tablet mode, tent / stand modes etc
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[16:52] <Apple1> hiä
[16:52] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: okay, thanks for your help!
[16:52] <Ironwave> Hi, How can I run mysql?  e:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start and d:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start Both answer No such file or directory. whereis mysql mysql: /usr/bin/mysql/etc/mysql/usr/lib/ (and so on, thus I do have it on my machiene.)
[16:53] <mantazer> i updated ubuntu, when i get to login screen, when i enter my credentials, it becomes unresponsive. i just want to get to a terminal. how do?
[16:53] <mantazer> ctrl-alt-f1 doesnt work
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Ironwave: you need a space after the word 'sudo'
[16:53] <mantazer> brings me to a black screen
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Ironwave: sudo /etc/init.e/mysql start     not    sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start
[16:53] <topkek32juan> how do i monitor my cpu frequency
[16:53] <mantazer> f1-f6 does the same thing
[16:53] <mantazer> how to i boot into terminal
[16:53] <mantazer> ?
[16:54] <Ironwave> ActionParsnip: Ill check it, Thanks for giving the correct command.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> mantazer: add the boot option "text"
[16:57] <Ironwave> ActionParsnip: It says its starting the database. When I invoke    service mysql status      it answers    Unknown job: mysql       Am I giving the command wrong?
[17:00] <redviper> Hi all, I am trying to install google earth on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but its not installing because ia32-libs package is not installed, where can I download it from?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> redviper: how are you installing it?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> redviper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#Using_make-googleearth-package
[17:03] <redviper> ActionParsnip: I downloaded the google package off the google earth site, a .deb. It's telling me I need ia32-libs in the software centre?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> redviper: there is a package in the ubuntu repos to make the package for yoiu......
[17:05] <redviper> ActionParsnip: That's by doing it with the site you gave me?
[17:05] <TJ-> Last time I tested GoogleEarth, it fails on both 32-bit and 64-bit
[17:06] <redviper> I got it working on Mint 14
[17:07] <nemo> So. Just wondering... This is like the second computer I've upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 that has run into errors on upgrade that completely blow up
[17:07] <talin1> Does anyone have any hints as to how the F#¤% to get a F&!"(/# lenovo laptop to boot GRUB and not Windows in UEFI mode?
[17:07] <nemo> like, dpkg complaining that python 2.7 doesn't exist, samba install failing...
[17:07] <nemo> Has anyone else noticed a higher than usual level of upgrade SNAFUs with 14.04 ?
[17:07] <talin1> im starting to loose my mind here, been trying umptheen different solutions in the last 24 hours
[17:08] <nemo> btw, by 2nd commputer, that's 2nd I've tried period, so, so far every upgrade has failed
[17:08] <nemo> dpkg fix time, but still…
[17:08] <TJ-> talin1: Does Ubuntu have an entry in the system's UEFI boot menu?
[17:09] <xangua> nemo: did you have third party repositories in your 13.10 install before distro upgrade¿
[17:09] <nemo> xangua: yep. MATE, which is now official I believe.
[17:09] <nemo> on both machines
[17:09] <nemo> xangua: but the errors don't seem to be linked to the desktop install
[17:09] <xangua> nemo: next time remove all third party repositories then
[17:09] <nemo> I mean, MATE doesn't mess around with samba or python
[17:10] <nemo> xangua: well, the update does disable repos…
[17:10] <talin1> TJ-: the UEFI/BIOS does not have any detailed view
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> redviper: yes, there is a package that wil build you a deb, you can then install that
[17:10] <TJ-> redviper: I've just installed the latest 32-bit Google Earth, on 64-bit Trusty, and it works so far... even manages to render its client area - which was the bug last time I checked
[17:10] <talin1> TJ-: but bcdedit /enum firmware from windows shows an entry
[17:11] <talin1> TJ-: for some reason that entry is not shown when trying "boot from other device" in winpe
[17:11] <TJ-> talin1: Shows an entry for Ubuntu? But you don't see that at the system's boot menu choice ?
[17:11] <talin1> TJ-: the bios lets me choose which drives to have in my boot order. period
[17:12] <redviper> ActionParsnip: I'm not too sure what I am doing, putting in the commands in the terminal and following the steps?
[17:12] <TJ-> talin1: This is strange - I was helping someone else earlier this week and they had the same issue, efibootmgr showed the Ubuntu boot entry was there and set as default but the firmware refused to show it or use it
[17:12] <talin1> TJ-: is efibootmgr installed during 14.04 server install
[17:12] <talin1> =
[17:12] <TJ-> talin1: For UEFI, alongside the drives, there should be entries for each installed operating system that is UEFI aware, so you should have "Windows" and "Ubuntu"
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> redviper: yes those are terminal commands.
[17:12] <buharin> hello guys if I installed some app with make install hwo I can remove it just remove folders?
[17:12] <buharin> directories mean
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> redviper: you will then get a deb and you can instal that
[17:13] <nemo> TJ-: so, I know very little about UEFI, but could that be related to a locked bootloader, one that requires signing?
[17:13] <nemo> TJ-: 'cause.. sometimes BIOS let you turn that off.
[17:13] <redviper> ActionParsnip: Does it make a difference as I already downloaded a .deb file from the Google Earth site?
[17:13] <TJ-> talin1: efibootmgr is a core part of an EFI install, it comes in with grub-efi, and it is the interface the OS has with the UEFI firmware for adding/removing/modifying boot entries that the UEFI firmware keeps in its Non-volatile RAM
[17:14] <talin1> TJ-: i could try a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reinstall and see what efibootmgr says before i reboot
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> redviper: no, as the commands will do what is needed
[17:14] <TJ-> nemo It could be, but in theory, no, since the Ubuntu/GRUB EFI boot-loader is signed by the Microsoft signing key that is shipped in "Windows 8 ready" PCs
[17:14] <talin1> TJ-: is it available from the boot medium?
[17:15] <talin1> TJ-: the CD boots just fine in UEFI mode both with and without secure boot enabled
[17:15] <redviper> ActionParsnip: okay well I have put in the commands and it is now downloading the package.
[17:15] <talin1> TJ-: but is efibootmgr available from the install medium?
[17:15] <sanu> hai
[17:16] <TJ-> talin1: If the installer did boot in EFI mode, then yes. You can quickly check which mode the OS booted from by doing "ls /sys/firmware/efi/" and making sure there is the directory "efivars"
[17:16] <talin1> TJ-: it is not availabe pre "Install to disk"
[17:16] <redviper> ActionParsnip: Point 5 says I must Install the created .deb package, where from?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> redviper: always check for documentation like that if you are unsure.
[17:16] <TJ-> talin1: and you can read the current boot-menu contents with "sudo efibootmgr -v"
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> redviper: i believe it is generated where your terminal is now. Run:   ls
[17:17] <TJ-> talin1: If the installer boots in EFI mode, you can install the package with "sudo apt-get install efibootmgr"
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> redviper: do you see the file?
[17:17] <TJ-> redviper: Are you using Trusty 64-bit? If you are you can simply download the 32-bit .deb file directly from Google - that works (on my system at least) - I just did that to test.
[17:18] <talin1> TJ-: ill try
[17:18] <talin1> thanks
[17:18] <redviper> ActionParsnip, It's still downloading, slow internet - 9kbps
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> redviper: and you wnat to run google earth??
[17:19] <lordjancso> hi, i'm a beginner ubuntu user and i have some problem with thunderbird... if i start it from dash, i can not create profile, because thunderbird can not write into my /home directory. if i as administrator, i can connect to my mail accounts, but i can not run it in background and there is no indicator in top right corner... how should i use thunderbird correctly?
[17:19] <redviper> TJ- :I'm using Trusty 64 bit on a 32 computer if I am not wrong
[17:20] <TJ-> redviper: No, you're not - that is impossible :)
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> redviper: you cannot install 64bit OS on a 32bit CPU
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> redviper: you can however run a 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU
[17:20] <redviper> ActionParsnip, Yeah, internet is being a pain now. It has its moments\
[17:20] <Eduardo_> If I delete the partitions with Disk Utility, can I undo this action?
[17:21] <redviper> ActionParsnip, Well I am running a 64 bit operating system of this laptop
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Eduardo_: you can recreate the partition and fsck it, theer is a command for extending partitions but I forget its name, might make it ok
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Eduardo_: resize2fs
[17:21] <belkinsa> Does the Remote Desktop from Guest Account using Ubuntu SSO work on 14.04.1?
[17:21] <redviper> TJ-, Okay then perhaps this machine is a 64 bit, struggles with Trusty
[17:22] <Eduardo_> ActionParsnip: But, I delete my Windows partitios jajaja
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> redviper: try using LXDE, its a lot lighter and will give a smoother desktop experience
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Eduardo_: then I have no idea. I'd just break out the backups
[17:24] <Eduardo_> I men, accidentalli delete all my HDD :S
[17:25] <redviper> ActionParsnip, Have not heard of it, was thinking of Debian. I need a stable system, user friendly, good hardware/software support and Customizable. I'm struggling a bit with Ubuntu.
[17:25] <julian-delphiki> Eduardo_: sounds like you need to restore from a backup then
[17:25] <Eduardo_> jajaja julian-delphiki I have not backup
[17:26] <julian-delphiki> Eduardo_: sounds like it's time to reinstall and forget all that data then :)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> redviper: its a desktop environment, you can run LXDE in Debian if you like
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> redviper: it replaces the Gnome + Compiz you have now, it uses LXDE and OpenBox by default
[17:28] <TJ-> redviper: "uname -p" will tell you which architecture the machine is, slowness on GUI systems is generally caused by the desktop environment demanding a good 3D accelerated GPU with drivers - default Ubuntu with the Unity DE is one-such, and makes use of lots of fancy transitions and blends that unless accelerated in hardware, make the machine feel slow and unresponsive
[17:28] <Eduardo_> forget windows, jajaja, julian-delphiki tks
[17:29] <Eduardo_> anyway its only Windows
[17:31] <redviper> ActionParsnip, You know that is a main problem with my Ubuntu, but whats also annoying me is that it is so buggy. I also don't have the knowledge to fix it and someone would get frustrated trying to help.
[17:32] <redviper> TJ-, I will check when this download is finished, its taking forever.
[17:32] <sanu> hai\
[17:36] <zputrle> hi
[17:43] <redviper> ActionParsnip, I did try installing a .bin for Google and the .bin did not want to open or run?\
[17:45] <redviper> ActionParsnip, This internet is moving at snails, I have the .deb file already. Is there no other way I can get the ia32-libs package to then run the .deb?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> redviper: its deprecated because your OS is multiarch
[17:46] <redviper> ActionParsnip, Ah multiarch?
[17:46] <LarsN> is there a script/utility that generates preseed configurations based on an existing system?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> redviper: yes, you can run 32bit OS in 64bit Ubuntu
[17:47] <redviper> ActionParsnip, But, what are the down sides?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> redviper: you will need all the 32bit deps for the 32bit apps you install, so drive space
[17:51] <redviper> ActionParsnip, The system weight is not the all bugging thing, my main issue is the bugs and not being able to customize my OS. Ubuntu used to be like that with compiz
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> redviper: I cant comment there, I dont use Compiz
[17:53] <cliov6> ciao ragazzi
[17:53] <cliov6> !list
[17:54] <redviper> ActionParsnip, I don't claim to use it, I used to use it but its not serious. Unity is stiff right?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> redviper: Unity is a plugin for Compiz
[17:54] <Dickens> if by stiff you mean crappy... yes
[17:56] <redviper> ActionParsnip, yeah and I don't know enough. Still fighting with this package.
[18:01] <redviper> ActionParsnip, What do I do exactly when I get to the 3rd point of the site you gave me?
[18:05] <Dickens> one thing that would be nice in Nautilus is the ability to copy and paste the current directory path
[18:05] <Dickens> from and address bar in the window
[18:06] <OERIAS> Ubuntu repos fucked up everything!
[18:06] <IdleOne> OERIAS: No swearing please
[18:06] <Dickens> for example  in the newer versions of windows there are links the be able to click back a directory (at the top of the window where the address bar is)... if you double click this it shows the entire path which you can copy and paste
[18:06] <v2zz> hi! anybody aware of skype connection problem? 'can't establish connection' for about 1hour
[18:06] <v2zz> what's that shit?
[18:06] <Dickens> !language v2zz
[18:06] <v2zz> sorry
[18:07] <Dickens> no problems here
[18:07] <v2zz> !language
[18:11] <sakhre> Why when I do $ modprobe vboxdrv  I get a  FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.  ?
[18:15] <daftykins> sakhre: hasn't been built for your running kernel i suspect.
[18:18] <inv3nt0r> I'm attempting to upgrade my Ubuntu 12 server to Ubuntu 14 using the do-release-upgrade method, and getting 404 errors for the 'Upgrade tool signature' and the 'Upgrade tool'
[18:18] <inv3nt0r> Any thoughts
[18:18] <inv3nt0r> ?
[18:20] <Artemis3> inv3nt0r, i'd say change the mirror
[18:21] <Squarepy> inv3nt0r, unrelated, but for reliability I would use a home partition and update underneath
[18:23] <inv3nt0r> Squarespy: The server is not super high value, it is basically a NAS box for the office that we can do without for short periods of time
[18:23] <inv3nt0r> Artemis3: So you recommend I change repositories?
[18:23] <sakhre> daftykins, what can I do?
[18:24] <Artemis3> inv3nt0r, yes, i would try main archive.ubuntu.com or such
[18:24] <inv3nt0r> Artemis3: Something like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu should do?
[18:24] <daftykins> sakhre: how did you install virtualbox?
[18:24] <daftykins> sakhre: also, which version of ubuntu is this?
[18:24] <Artemis3> try and see inv3nt0r
[18:24] <sakhre> daftykins, software center. ubuntu 12.04. i updated the kernel and it stopped wroking.
[18:25] <sakhre> (virtual bx)
[18:25] <scumdogmoney> Hi
[18:27] <daftykins> sakhre: try "ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start"
[18:27] <scumdogmoney> daftykins: Yo!
[18:27] <daftykins> hello.
[18:28] <daftykins> scumdogmoney: do you have a support question?
[18:28] <scumdogmoney> Is legalizing marijuana a good thing daftykins
[18:28] <ldlework> get. out.
[18:29] <coventry`> sakhre: Try reinstalling virtualbox-dkms.  If that doesn't work, you might try asking on #vbox.  They will probably scold you if you're not using the official virtualbox packages, they deal with this kind of problem often.
[18:29] <rww> scumdogmoney: let's stick to Ubuntu support, please.
[18:29] <coventry`> s/they deal/but they deal/
[18:30] <sakhre> problem occurred while installing software. package: virtualbox-dkms
[18:30] <daftykins> coventry`: there's no need to respond again to someone i already have done.
[18:30] <daftykins> sakhre: did you run my suggestion yet?
[18:30] <sakhre> daftykins, yes
[18:30] <daftykins> and?
[18:30] <daftykins> did you see it regenerate modules?
[18:31] <coventry`> daftykins: Sorry, read things out of order.
[18:31] <sakhre> daftykins, yes, but an error window popped up ^
[18:31] <daftykins> sakhre: oh so that error came from that command, not coventry`'s suggestion
[18:32] <daftykins> sakhre: in a terminal can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms" and then pastebin the output to share to us via paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:33] <delt> Hello
[18:33] <delt> what is the command that pops up the "software updates" window periodicallyÃ?
[18:33] <delt> ie. how can i make it appear right now?
[18:34] <sakhre> daftykins, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7926302/
[18:34] <redviper> Where do I find and download ia32-libs package to install?
[18:35] <rww> redviper: You don't. Modern Ubuntu releases use multiarch instead, where you identify which library/ies you actually need and then install the i386 version of them
[18:36] <daftykins> sakhre: can you now do "dpkg -l | grep virtualbox" please
[18:36] <redviper> rww: Well how do I do that then as I need that package, there is a dependency on my OS for that file
[18:36] <zacg> I am using ubuntu 14.04 lts as a guest os inside virtualbox. After a recent update I can no longer use virtual boxes auto-resize guest display feature, it is disabled in the view menu. I have tried reinstalling guest additions but that didn't fix it. Any ideas?
[18:36] <rww> redviper: what are you trying to install?
[18:36] <sakhre> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7926316/
[18:37] <redviper> rww: Google Earth on a 64 bit OS. I don't quite know what to do or how to do it
[18:37] <daftykins> zacg: that'd be virtualbox support, not us so much
[18:37] <Milton> Hi, could someone help me?
[18:37] <daftykins> Milton: ask a question first
[18:37] <daftykins> sakhre: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox*"
[18:37] <Milton> My Nokia Lumia 520 changed file-permissions on my MicroSDHC to read-only filesystem somehow. After digging a lot of forums I found that this is typical Windowsoid, and even that I found for Linux is not helpful for me. I formatted SD on Lumia, but still have WPSystem folder, in which I got WPSettings.dat. Unable to cut them, and to paste something over there. Of course, using GParted I see "Unable to format, read-only filesystem".
[18:37] <delt> what is the command that pops up the "software updates" window periodically? ie. how can i make it appear right now?
[18:38] <coventry`> delt: Try update-manager.
[18:39] <delt> coventry`: thanks
[18:39] <sakhre> daftykins, * No suitable module for running kernel found [fail]
[18:40] <daftykins> Milton: plug the phone in via USB, *after* unlocking the screen and transfer files that way?
[18:41] <redviper> rww: ?
[18:41] <Milton> While on USB it is failed to mount. Using card-reader
[18:41] <daftykins> Milton: you don't mount, it should use MTP automatically
[18:41] <rww> redviper: sorry, got distracted. one sec.
[18:42] <redviper> rww: No problem
[18:42] <daftykins> sakhre: try "ls /usr/src/linux-headers-* -d | sed -e 's/.*linux-headers-//' | \ sort -V | tac | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
[18:42] <Pici> daftykins: +1 for use of tac.
[18:43] <daftykins> Pici: i'm cheating pasting from askubuntu ;_;
[18:43] <Milton> daftykins:  while plugging via USB, a loading circle appears, then stops moving and freezing my file manager until unplugging
[18:43] <Pici> daftykins: awww
[18:43] <rww> redviper: download the 32-bit package instead of the 64-bit one, and use multiarch
[18:43] <wakan> #ubuntu-fr
[18:43] <ardan_> uh,, so if i run 'free -g' the integer under Mem: total is the total RAM my computer has?
[18:43] <rww> redviper: it may install the 32-bit depends automatically when you install the 32-bit version, I can't remember
[18:43] <daftykins> Milton: what distro, version and desktop is that with? or, what file manager? 0o
[18:43] <rww> ardan_: yes, minus any used for e.g. video card shared memory
[18:44] <daftykins> ardan_: that shows 0's for me :D free -m works however
[18:44] <daftykins> (in a VM here though)
[18:44] <redviper> rww: So its worth the try, from the official Google Earth site?
[18:44] <rww> redviper: with the 32-bit version, yes. the 64-bit version is not properly packaged for current Ubuntu
 Xubuntu 14.04, Thunar is my favourite, Dell Inspiron
[18:44] <ardan_> damn, but that means my server has 5 GB free, but i'm on  VPS, and am limitied to 500ish MB.
[18:45] <redviper> rww okay I will try now, internet is slow
[18:45] <daftykins> Milton: i don't think that has MTP support built in
[18:45] <ardan_> how the hell do i use swap memory on a vps ?
[18:46] <daftykins> ardan_: talk to your provider
[18:46] <ardan_> they are gointg to tell me to upgrade my account for $20 a month!
[18:46] <daftykins> to answer one question?
[18:46] <daftykins> sounds like you need to change provider.
[18:46] <ardan_> no, i need to increase the available ram i have.
[18:46] <ikonia> then buy more ram
[18:47] <ardan_> sounds like a waste of money for 1 task.
[18:47] <Milton> daftykins: in the past I'd installed gmtp manually, but actually not needed it. Everything was loading just fine
[18:47] <ardan_> eh, i'll figure something out.
[18:47] <sakhre> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7926405/
[18:47] <redviper> rww: Thanks, I will give it a go with the 32 bit a go
[18:48] <Milton> WinPhone? It always does something without my help
[18:48] <daftykins> sakhre: ok, for some reason your module compilation is failing... i'd direct you to virtualbox's channel now
[18:48] <sakhre> daftykins, ok ty
[18:49] <indn1234> testing IRC in Pidgin...
[18:49] <ikonia> indn1234: it works
[18:49] <daftykins> indn1234: do so in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:49] <indn1234> daftykins: yeah sorry.
[18:50] <Milton> daftykins: thank ye, gonna find answers on the forum. The topic is not for chat
[18:51] <daftykins> Milton: good luck
[18:57] <Milton> daftykins: plugged after unlocking the screen. Works just fine:)
[18:57] <daftykins> :)
[18:57] <daftykins> i've been solving a lot of windows phone woes through that of late
[18:59] <Lartza> Does rsyncing to a remote server not need any server running on the receiving end?
[18:59] <daftykins> depends how you access it
[19:00] <daftykins> SSH, yes, samba share - yes
[19:00] <daftykins> but not a representation of rsync, no
[19:00] <TrueNhero> hi, i have a problem about one partion ext4 that automount but read only
[19:01] <zCoder> Hi. Can someone please help me out? I cant seem to get my php mail to work? seems like postfix is installed in listening to port 25   i have sent test emails via mail () function in php and nothing is coming through. Any ideas?
[19:01] <daftykins> zCoder: #ubuntu-server would be more relevant, as would a postfix channel if it exists
[19:01] <ikonia> zCoder: what do the postfix logs say
[19:01] <ikonia> zCoder: are they leaving the queue ?
[19:02] <daftykins> TrueNhero: what's the problem then?
[19:02] <TrueNhero> i need write on an ext4 partition
[19:03] <TrueNhero> daftykins: it automounts as readonly
[19:03] <TrueNhero> daftykins: how could i change the permissions?
[19:04] <daftykins> TrueNhero: "df -h" in terminal, spot the mount point... "sudo mount -o remount,rw /mount/point"
[19:04] <rww> in before it's mounted read write already and needs a chmod/chown
[19:04] <TrueNhero> daftykins: but i need that happens at boot
[19:05] <daftykins> TrueNhero: can you pastebin the output of "mount" first?
[19:05] <daftykins> TrueNhero: i'm sure you do, but baby steps.
[19:05] <daftykins> wow - major deja vu
[19:05] <zCoder> ikonia: doesnt see to say much at all..  some errors from before but nohting from today
[19:07] <youngboy> hello, can someone help me with ubuntu installation, doesnt work. I can run ubuntu demo, but it refuses to install with usb-stick or dvd. I goes to the point where you choose if you wish to install mpeg stuff and when I click next then it thinks awhile and terminates and reboots
[19:07] <TrueNhero> daftykins: i execute "sudo mount -o remount,rw /mount/point" yet, it works
[19:07] <TrueNhero> but i need at boot
[19:08] <daftykins> ok, so create an entry in /etc/fstab
[19:08] <g1> youngboy: may be the installation files are corrupt
[19:09] <youngboy> youngboy: I dont know, but ive downloaded them from ubuntu website
[19:09] <youngboy> sorry I meant
[19:09] <TrueNhero> daftykins: $mount http://paste.ubuntu.com/7926534/
[19:09] <youngboy> gl: I dont know, but ive downloaded them from ubuntu website
[19:10] <g1> youngboy: try making the bootable disk again  and retry
[19:10] <bprompt> youngboy:    how about if you skip the "mpeg" install stuff?
[19:10] <youngboy> I have had a previous ubuntu 12version, which i uninstalled, and had a ubuntu boot haunting with windows. Then I manually deleted the boot through windows, I suspect it may have something to do with it
[19:10] <bprompt> youngboy:     or even maybe turn off a few things before starting up the boot usb/dvd   like some of the boot features, usually accessible through F6
[19:10] <youngboy> bprompt:  I tried skipping but didnt help
[19:10] <shndns> hello
[19:10] <bprompt> allo shndns
[19:11] <daftykins> TrueNhero: which device are we looking at? line 19 sdc?
[19:11] <TrueNhero> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7926549/
[19:11] <youngboy> gl: ive tried 2 disks and 3 usbsticks with differnt software
[19:11] <daftykins> TrueNhero: yeah i know what fstab looks like, you need to create an entry in there now.
[19:11] <youngboy> bprompt:  so when I get to install screen after boot, where I choose language, then I press f6 and turn off stuff?
[19:11] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Say I'm in the file browser and select a .png and choose "open with gimp".  Is there a way to make the gimp window come to the front automatically instead of having the dock icon jiggle?
[19:12] <TrueNhero> daftykins: line 19 sdc1 is usb kingston 4gb
[19:12] <bprompt> youngboy:    right.....
[19:13] <daftykins> TrueNhero: right, so tell me which *IS* the right one...
[19:13] <jessejazza> join oftc
[19:13] <youngboy> bprompt:  Is that an agreement, or a statement? I am really a mega noob in this, so I appreciate the support you can give.
[19:14] <mikeg3> I forgot my password; how do I reset it in Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:14] <TrueNhero> daftykins: the problem is sdb1
[19:14] <jessejazza> join /oftc
[19:14] <daftykins> TrueNhero: ok so set it up in /etc/fstab , you can mount by UUID by getting the UUID from "sudo blkid"
[19:14] <daftykins> jessejazza: the command you're grasping for is "/join #channelname"
[19:15] <bprompt> youngboy:     hehe, is an ok.. yes... turn off a few things there, maybe is just hardware incompatibility with loading drivers
[19:15] <g1> jessejazza: lol
[19:15] <mikeg3> !password
[19:15] <TrueNhero> daftykins: what happens if change: errors=remount-ro to remount-rw?
[19:15] <youngboy> bprompt:  but I have had ubuntu 12 before, like I wrote jsust now: [19:10] <youngboy> I have had a previous ubuntu 12version, which i uninstalled, and had a ubuntu boot haunting with windows. Then I manually deleted the boot through windows, I suspect it may have something to do with it
[19:15] <daftykins> TrueNhero: that is nothing to do with what i'm telling you to do.
[19:16] <daftykins> TrueNhero: perhaps you should join a channel for your language, you obviously don't understand me.
[19:16] <derek-g> why is my chromium of version 34? while version 37 was already released.... Why is the delay?
[19:16] <g1> youngboy: does it reboot or goes to black screen?
[19:16] <TrueNhero> daftykins: wait i understand you
[19:16] <bprompt> youngboy:    shouldn't choke at that stage I'd think though
[19:16] <jessejazza> daftykins: I'm using chatzilla and theres a way of typing the irc and the channel
[19:16] <daftykins> jessejazza: ok, don't do it here anymore though.
[19:16] <Lartza> Can I really not set port with rsync?
[19:16] <Lartza> SSH port
[19:17] <jessejazza> didn't mean to!
[19:17] <ciss> hi, you're probably getting hammered with this question, but i couldn't dig up an answer on my own:
[19:17] <bubbaroony> derek-g install the repo
[19:17] <daftykins> Lartza: yes, someone did it here the other day - don't remember the answer though. dig in the man page
[19:17] <youngboy> gl: bprompt: it loads up an ubuntu termination screen and tells me to eject my installation and press enter. I can get the whole error if it helps
[19:17] <g1> jessejazza: /server "server name", then /join #channelname
[19:17] <ciss> why does http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts still not list 14.04, even though the point release has been published?
[19:17] <youngboy> eject cd
[19:18] <Lartza> Found it yeah
[19:18] <daftykins> ciss: perhaps that's the wrong doc.
[19:18] <TrueNhero> daftykins: the UUID is ok
[19:18] <bprompt> youngboy:     hmm.... usually when the GUI starts off something in the background... you can press ESC to remove the UI and check processing lines on the background
[19:18] <daftykins> TrueNhero: you need to *create* a *new line* in fstab with the UUID and options for sdb1
[19:18] <jessejazza> g1: thanks... of course it is
[19:18] <ciss> daftykins: it's the one queried by update manager in ubuntu server 12.04 lts
[19:19] <CarlFK> what is the package that replaced ffmpeg?   libav something...
[19:19] <g1> youngboy: bprompt:or press upper arrow.
[19:19] <bubbaroony> !ffmpeg
[19:19] <daftykins> ciss: are you running "do-release-upgrade -p" ?
[19:19] <jgcampbell300> I am looking for a admin gui for my linux servers and desktops .. i have been testing out webmin and was wondering if there was something better ?
[19:20] <youngboy> gl: bprompt:  okay, well I try the installation with f6 and log the error so I can tell you better
[19:20] <daftykins> CarlFK: avconv ?
[19:20] <DJones> !webmin | jgcampbell300
[19:20] <DJones> !ebox | jgcampbell300
[19:20] <jgcampbell300> ahh .. ya thats a problem
[19:20] <ciss> daftykins: nope, i'm running it without parameters
[19:20] <CarlFK> daftykins: looks like it.  thanks.
[19:20] <daftykins> ciss: then run the above.
[19:20] <trap_exit> is there a way to get "sudo /sbin/dhclient eth1" every time the machine boots up ?
[19:21] <bubbaroony> CarlFKyou can find the wiki on the web
[19:21] <TrueNhero> daftykins: and erase the old line?
[19:21] <jgcampbell300> nice thanks much
[19:21] <daftykins> TrueNhero: if you just plugged that hard disk in, it shouldn't be in there at all. you're going to need to show me a pastebin of fstab together with blkid, i can't guess your UUIDs to know :)
[19:23] <TrueNhero> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7926645/
[19:23] <jgcampbell300> I tryed Zentyal about 5 months ago ... it seemed like it had quite a bit of over head ... anyone had same problem
[19:25] <nazrech> Hi, I'm experiencing screen tearing on 14.04 using proprietary nvidia drivers - is there a fix for this? :)
[19:26] <Guest92804> Is vsync enabled nazrech?
[19:26] <daftykins> TrueNhero: reboot and pastebin "mount" again please
[19:27] <nazrech> Guest92804: Sync to V-blank is enabled if that's what you mean
[19:27] <daftykins> nazrech: we don't support nvidia drivers.
[19:28] <Guest92804> Try disabling it and see if it changes anything nazrech
[19:28] <daftykins> where are you seeing tearing though?
[19:28] <ciss> daftykins: thanks, that would work, but i guess i'll just wait a bit longer until it becomes available per default
[19:29] <nazrech> Daftykins: When scrolling. Happens in both i3 and xfce.   Guest92804: Didn't help :(
[19:29] <FaboFabiFabinO> Hello body, body. There is a error with fingerprint in the official site, with version ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso, them i ask pepoal go in the lunhpad for report this bug in help the community: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1349715 . For to found if it's broked file or error Fingerprint. Good look !
[19:29] <Guest92804> Scrolling in a web browser or scrolling in general?
[19:29] <daftykins> ciss: it is - there's just some quirks around right now. running what i suggested is fine :) of course, you have nice working backups anyway so there's no problem!
[19:30] <nazrech> Guest92804: In general. Also when moving windows around fast. It's quite noticeable
[19:30] <ciss> daftykins: it's actually a vm, so backups aren't a problem. i'm just not in the mood of discovering errors much too late - but i'll give it a try :)
[19:31] <daftykins> ciss: even better \o/
[19:31] <TrueNhero> daftykins: ok im back
[19:32] <Guest92804> nazrech https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1278012/comments/12
[19:32] <TrueNhero> i'll
[19:32] <daftykins> ah the backing store thing!
[19:33] <nazrech> Guest92804: Okay, I added -bs to the config file. Do I just need to restart x now?
[19:33] <Lartza> Why is ubuntu refusing my root password??
[19:33] <FaboFabiFabinO> Bonjour tout le monde, l'image CD la version ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:33] <FaboFabiFabinO> et la version ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso ne correspond pas a la version MD5 officiel
[19:33] <FaboFabiFabinO> Donc j'invites tout ceux qui on un pc 64 bits de venir sur : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1349715
[19:33] <FaboFabiFabinO> pour laisser un commentaire. Car plus nous serons nombreux a signaler cette érreur. Nous pourrons savoir si les image iso son corrompu ou si c'est une érreur dans le fingerprint. Bonne journée  a tous !
[19:33] <Guest92804> Yeah restart x now nazrech
[19:34] <Lartza> ssh is giving access denied
[19:34] <genii> !fr | FaboFabiFabinO
[19:35] <nicolai_> Guest92804: It didn't work unfortunately
[19:36] <daftykins> Lartza: root doesn't have a password.
[19:36] <Guest92804> Hm I'm not sure
[19:36] <Lartza> daftykins, sure does when I've set one
[19:36] <daftykins> Lartza: you bad bad man
[19:37] <ikonia> Lartza: then you should have a clue what you are doing
[19:37] <daftykins> ^
[19:37] <Lartza> i've never had ssh refuse a login -.-
[19:37] <ikonia> Lartza: if you know better than ubuntu and change the default security model - you should know what you are doing
[19:37] <Lartza> damn
[19:37] <Lartza> permitrootlogin
[19:37] <ikonia> Lartza: you should be able to debug it though if you know better than ubuntu's security model
[19:37] <Lartza> How is it on
[19:37] <Lartza> *off
[19:38] <x42> you usuall should not allow permitrootlogin
[19:38] <x42> only maybe temporarly for maintanance
[19:38] <Lartza> I need it, it's not for general use
[19:38] <ikonia> it is dsiabled by default due to sensible security model
[19:38] <ikonia> there are almost no situations to "need it"
[19:38] <Lartza> also with keys it's relatively safe
[19:38] <ikonia> you do not need it
[19:38] <Lartza> I don't have a regular user :P
[19:38] <ikonia> Lartza: it is not safe
[19:38] <x42> you also shoul disable password login - and allow only keyfile login on a different port
[19:38] <ikonia> Lartza: you do have a regular user
[19:39] <ikonia> Lartza: one is created by default when you install ubuntu
[19:39] <Lartza> ikonia, I know what I'm doing here
[19:39] <Lartza> For once
[19:39] <ikonia> Lartza: clearly you don't
[19:39] <ikonia> Lartza: hence why you are asking what's going on with ssh rejecting your login
[19:39] <Lartza> oh wait I did create a user
[19:39] <Lartza> I'm confused
[19:40] <ikonia> because you don't know what you're doing
[19:40] <Lartza> ikonia, Maybe I did a minimal install?
[19:40] <ikonia> there is no such thing
[19:40] <Lartza> What?
[19:40] <Lartza> I'm used to Arch
[19:40] <Lartza> All well now
[19:40] <Lartza> Thanks
[19:40] <ikonia> that means nothing
[19:40] <ikonia> arch ssh is the same as ubuntu and fedora and redhat and all the other distros
[19:40] <ikonia> as is the permissions model and user model
[19:40] <theadmin> Lartza: The minimal install CD is like 30MB
[19:41] <Lartza> Though arch only has a root when you start
[19:41] <theadmin> Lartza: If that's what you used
[19:41] <theadmin> Lartza: Yeah, in Ubuntu sudo is used and the root account is locked
[19:42] <Lartza> I know, that's fine usually
[19:52] <etronik> hi all, is evolution mail client being evolved or... being left behind ?
[19:55] <ikonia> etronik: by who ?
[19:55] <etronik> ikonia, I dunno, I'm just contemplating Evolution vs Thunderbird...
[19:55] <ikonia> use what you like
[19:55] <etronik> duh
[19:55] <etronik> I was trying to get some feedback from here
[19:56] <etronik> I haven't kept up with evolution for quite a long time now, so was wondering
[19:56] <bakhtiya> Hey, anyone have valid sources list still hosted (but frozen) for 13.04? Links? Made the mistake of thinking this was LTS on one of my boxes, and don't want to upgrade it yet.
[19:56] <ikonia> etronik: feedback on what ?
[19:57] <ikonia> bakhtiya: the repos have been move to oldrepos.ubuntu.com
[19:57] <etronik> ikonia, on Evolutions errrm evolution over the recent past... nevermind... I'm reading up on it
[19:57] <bakhtiya> ikonia: thank you
[19:59] <MoProductions> Hello.  I keep having to reboot my ubuntu machine because it loses connections to network folders often enough that I eventually can’t even connect to them at all (broken pipe, “unknown file type” when i’m just trying to open a folder, etc). Is there some sort of universal “disconnect from ALL shared folders and refresh” I could call so I don’t have to reboot every 5 minutes?
[19:59] <sidney_> I recently installed lxde,and i install xfce4-power-manager,but exce4 power managers standby and hibernate functions are disabled,even though i can manually standby.
[19:59] <sidney_> xfce* :P
[20:00] <bakhtiya> ikonia: oldrepos.ubuntu.com doesn't resolve dns wise
[20:00] <bakhtiya> ah, I think it's old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:00] <ikonia> bakhtiya: old-releases, sorry
[20:00] <SlaS> anyone using ubuntu 14.04 with optimus working ?
[20:01] <Eldunar> Hello, is it possible to scroll websites by clicing middle mouse button?
[20:01] <g1> Eldunar: yes!
[20:01] <sidney_> Is there any other power managers?
[20:01] <Eldunar> can u lead me how todo?
[20:02] <g1> Eldunar: It should be available by default? Isn't it working?
[20:02] <FourFire> hey is there a Mint channel or will this one answer mint questions?
[20:03] <Eldunar> unfortunately not;/
[20:03] <Eldunar> scrolling is working, but clicking npt
[20:03] <DJones> !mint | FourFire
[20:04] <g1> Eldunar: Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299677
[20:05] <Eldunar> big cold beer for u:) than u:)
[20:06] <g1> Eldunar: :D
[20:06] <a_run> anyone having trouble connecting to skype?
[20:06] <Eldunar> my another question is how to check which of my graphic card is used? ( i hae intel i3 4600 graphic and radeon 8750) i can not install CCC ( i think it is not supported yet) only x.org
[20:08] <a_run> anyone having trouble connecting to skype?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Eldunar: Try -> sudo lshw -C display <- ..
[20:08] <OerHeks> a_run, no, do you ?
[20:09] <a_run> yes
[20:09] <a_run> http://askubuntu.com/questions/505581/skype-cant-connect
[20:09] <a_run> http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-4-2-0-11-and-4-2-0-11-1-not-connecting-on-Ubuntu-Raring-13/td-p/1651317/page/2
[20:09] <Eldunar> ok, i have now i3 integrated. How to switch between them?
[20:11] <etronik> oh BTW, what the best hmm packaging of xAMP stack currently for Ubuntu ? short of installing each one separately ?
[20:12] <etronik> LAMP stack in this case
[20:12] <daftykins> you can use tasksel to install all the required roles
[20:12] <daftykins> but i prefer to apt each component separately from its' main metapackage in the repos
[20:12] <daftykins> etronik: ^
[20:13] <etronik> hmm tasksel ?
[20:13] <daftykins> try it. it's the menu you often get confronted with to pick software at the end of a server install
[20:13] <etronik> k got it
[20:13] <etronik> http://howtounix.info/howto/LAMP-on-Ubuntu-with-tasksel-tool
[20:13] <a_run> ok new skype worked
[20:13] <a_run> 4.3 is out
[20:14] <lovesfreenode> hi
[20:14] <etronik> a_run, how to upgrade ?
[20:14] <lovesfreenode> wants info on system d
[20:14] <rww> lovesfreenode: what would you like to know?
[20:14] <Eldunar> is there any gui or sth for switching graphic cards ( instead of CCC ( i have unsupported 8750m radeon))?
[20:15] <etronik> a_run, oh forget I was already running 4.3
[20:15] <lovesfreenode> every thing
[20:15] <lovesfreenode> links
[20:15] <a_run> i just removed the older version and installed the new version
[20:20] <Cr0nus`> I'm having trouble being able to create/delete files/folders via ftp.  vsftpd/apache.  i created my own user account, added it to the www-data group.  the www-data group has control over /var/www but i cannot create files/folders with my user unless i sudo
[20:20] <excesseye> \q
[20:21] <ikonia> Cr0nus`: look at the permission the file you're trying to remove
[20:21] <ikonia> Cr0nus`: also keep in mind, depending on your ftp setup, the ftp account "may" use the user account running the ftp daemon for permissions
[20:22] <Cr0nus`> directorys show drwxr-sr-x and files show -rw-r--r--
[20:23] <ikonia> Cr0nus`: so group has no ability to delete them then
[20:23] <theadmin> Cr0nus`: Uh, group has no write access from this
[20:23] <etronik> daftykins, re lamp-server, if I wanna move Apache's root folder, and MySQL database away from the SSD.... I'd better install stuff individually no ?
[20:24] <Eldunar> is there any gui or sth for switching graphic cards ( instead of CCC ( i have unsupported 8750m radeon))?
[20:24] <Cr0nus`> I need to give www-data more permissions/power?
[20:24] <ikonia> etronik: why would installing it seperately change the install location
[20:24] <ikonia> Cr0nus`: no, the group
[20:25] <Cr0nus`> it shows www-data.www-data
[20:25] <etronik> ikonia, You didn't read carefully ;-) I don't want to change install location, just the data
[20:25] <ikonia> Cr0nus`: yes ?
[20:25] <ikonia> etronik: again - why would installing them seperately change the location ?
[20:25] <daftykins> etronik: no, just symlink apache's documentroot
[20:25] <ikonia> do not symlink the doc root
[20:26] <ikonia> change it in the config file to the place you want
[20:26] <daftykins> i don't see any reason not to.
[20:26] <daftykins> you could have /var live on another disk
[20:26] <etronik> ikonia, because I think that integrated install might set everything up ready to play in default locations, where individual install might allow for better configuration - I don't know that's why I'm asking
[20:26] <ikonia> not everything can follow symlinks and the apache internal permissions
[20:26] <daftykins> (benefitial for the logging fill up aspect)
[20:26] <ikonia> etronik: it doesn't ask you any questions at install time
[20:26] <etronik> daftykins, that's an idea yeah
[20:26] <ikonia> etronik: so there is zero difference
[20:27] <etronik> well then, here goes
[20:27] <daftykins> etronik: no, i as thrown by your question too... it's all auto.
[20:27] <daftykins> *was
[20:27] <etronik> daftykins, but at least for Apache I can move stuff afterwards
[20:27] <etronik> dunno about MySQL
[20:28] <ikonia> etronik: you can move anything afterwards
[20:28] <ikonia> etronik: it's just a config file
[20:29] <ubuntu__1> whois ddv
[20:31] <youngboy> did anyone see the link i pasted just now? crashed
[20:31] <eeee> nope
[20:31] <g1> ubuntu_1: it's /whois
[20:32] <Eldunar> is there any gui or sth for switching graphic cards ( instead of CCC ( i have unsupported 8750m radeon))? Or some sort of command to switch graphic ?
[20:33] <g1> Eldunar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/391002/13-10-switching-graphics-cards
[20:33] <youngboy> gl: bprompt: it keeps crashing after I select install with windows. this is crash report http://i58.tinypic.com/xbxzq8.jpg
[20:34] <youngboy> if that is the report o_o
[20:34] <youngboy> I click continue after choosing with windows, and then it terminates like that
[20:34] <youngboy> but demo works fine
[20:35] <youngboy> I can run demo fine i mean, but terminates like that when I try to install
[20:37] <FilipeSilva_> Hi, i have a barcode scanner here, its usb and works fine on ubuntu, but when i read some barcodes eventually the scanner stops working and i need to take off the usb plug and then plug it again to start working again... Does any1 knows what is the problem?
[20:38] <daftykins> FilipeSilva_: does the device state official Linux support?
[20:38] <flubby_nanabo> So, If I wanna run a script on startup, but it's supposed to run only once, and exit, should I put it on rc.local, or make it a service on /etc/init (or init.d)?
[20:38] <Beldar>  youngboy Just joined the channel are you getting help?
[20:39] <FilipeSilva_> daftykins, i dont think so
[20:40] <daftykins> FilipeSilva_: then it's probably a bonus it works at all
[20:40] <FilipeSilva_> daftykins, on the manufacter website there's no drive, not even for windows
[20:40] <daftykins> contact them
[20:41] <FilipeSilva_> daftykins, i will, thanks.
[20:43] <R13ose> how do I fix this message in terminal: "x-directory" is an old media type that should be replaced with a modern equivalent?
[20:45] <youngboy> Beldar: hey, I cant install ubuntu for some reason
[20:45] <youngboy> Beldar: it keeps crashing after I select install with windows. this is crash report http://i58.tinypic.com/xbxzq8.jpg  I click continue after choosing with windows, and then it terminates like that
[20:46] <youngboy> I can run demo fine, but crashes at install
[20:46] <youngboy> or should I say terminates
[20:50] <vasya54> hello, I have a  problem with my hibernation in ubuntu 14.04. I want to set the hibernation menu to use s2disk instead of the default method, but all the answers tell me to modify a file that does not exist. What do I do?
[20:50] <vasya54> this person has the same problem as I do http://askubuntu.com/questions/75357/replacing-default-hibernate-method-to-s2disk
[20:55] <Beldar> youngboy, If this is a live desktop boot to the try ubuntu and see if the install from there does this, you example is from where? Have you checked the sum on the download? several questions here.
[20:57] <Eldunar> i hae problem z vga swithcero. this program do not want to switch my  graphic
[20:59] <Eldunar> i hae problem z vga swithcero. this program do not want to switch my  graphic: ( pastebin : http://pastebin.com/mejA308G )
[21:00] <Beldar> youngboy, If you are not going to watch the answers we are done.
[21:02] <IRA___> Why I can not just create new directory within /var/www/html place there files and access them?
[21:04] <youngboy> Beldar:  I tried with 3 different usb-stick and usb boots, and with 2 different dvds. the picture is from dvd. I tried installing both just by install, and second through demo and then install
[21:05] <IdleOne> IRA___: are you in the www group
[21:06] <IRA___> IdleOne, yes, I am.
[21:07] <youngboy> Hello, I m unable to install ubuntu on my computer. it keeps crashing after I select install with windows. this is crash report http://i58.tinypic.com/xbxzq8.jpg  I click continue after choosing with windows, and then it terminates like that. Same problem by installation through live, ive tried with usb stick and DVD. I suspect my old ubuntu install v12 that i uninstalled might cause problems im not sure. But after I uninstalled ubu
[21:07] <youngboy> yed so I had to manually delete it through windows
[21:07] <KeyboardNotFound> Why can't I edit this file ?sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[21:07] <KeyboardNotFound> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[21:08] <puff> The screen size is wrong, the bottom edge of windows and etc keep appearing too low, so I can only see the top edges of the buttons.
[21:09] <puff> The screen size is wrong, the bottom edge of windows and etc keep appearing too low, so I can only see the top edges of the buttons.  How do I fix this?  The monitor (dell U 420) menu has a setting for adjusting vertical position, but if I change that, it slides the gnome menu up off the top of the screen.
[21:09] <Eldunar> i hae problem z vga swithcero. this program do not want to switch my  graphic: ( pastebin : http://pastebin.com/mejA308G )
[21:09] <puff> This is ubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad t520, using an external monitor (dell usharp 420)
[21:10] <IRA___> youngboy, not enough info.
[21:10] <youngboy> IRA___: what more can I provide?
[21:12] <bilde2910> Hello! I have a laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 server, as the main server for my website. Earlier today, the server got disconnected, seemingly without reason. I tried restarting the machine, but the network does not go up. Running ifconfig only shows loopback interface lo, `sudo lshw -C network' lists the interface em1 (the ethernet interface) as "*-network DISABLED". Card is an RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet Controller".
[21:12] <bilde2910> Any help resolving this? I need to get the machine online as fast as possible because thousands of users of my web services are unable to connect to the website
[21:12] <IRA___> youngboy, do not know. My best guess: launch installation program from terminal emulator, so you can see what it printing.
[21:13] <bilde2910> The switch shows activity on the port the server is connected to.
[21:14] <bilde2910> Also, the file /etc/network/interfaces does NOT exist
[21:14] <IRA___> youngboy, you can try manually repartition your HDD to create separate partition for Ubuntu.
[21:16] <youngboy> IRA___:  okay I will have to try that
[21:17] <bilde2910> On startup, "configure network interface" fails twice
[21:24] <rk3y> exit
[21:25] <platzhirsch> Which compression allows to encrypt file names as well?
[21:25] <bilde2910> "configure virtual network devices" also fails.
[21:38] <Beldar> bilde2910, #ubuntu-server may be better
[21:38] <bilde2910> Okay, thanks
[21:40] <Beldar> bilde2910, Try to encompass your info in single post it can get convoluted when you spread it out
[21:42] <bilde2910> Hm?
[21:42] <BAMbanda> can someone kindly advise me on how I should upgrade my ubuntu studio 12.04 to the latest version of regular ubuntu?
[21:43] <malkauns> BAMbanda: reinstall from scratch
[21:43] <Beldar> BAMbanda, Just info but there is a #ubuntu-studio channel as well
[21:44] <Beldar> malkauns, Can you give a reasoning on that?
[21:47] <MoPac> Hello, I am installing on a fresh drive, and I will be putting Ubuntu in a LUKS container. Question: Do I need to create an EFI boot partition *and* a separate partition that has the actual kernel on it and should be mounted at /boot? Or does the new "EFI boot partition" do everything that the old boot partitions did?
[21:48] <Beldar> MoPac, Ubuntu has a auto efi install I would assume this is the same eith a luks install
[21:48] <Beldar> with*
[21:48] <MoPac> Beldar: Well, I'm also leaving some space at the end of the disk for a different OS, so I didn't want to do the auto install, even though it could include LUKS
[21:49] <hakim> hello all.. i am having issues with automounting 2 extra harddrives..when i boot it says "the disk for /mnt/xxxxx" is not ready yet or not present" continue to wait or press s to skip mounting... it wont boot until i press s.. then it will eventually mount by itself.
[21:49] <Beldar> MoPac, Have an image/clone and backups of the others OS's to cover any contigency, and recover discs.
[21:49] <feldoh2go> hello!  I have finally got ubuntu to load on a dell vostro 200.  only it is 10.04.    can i upgrade to 12.04 (I have the live cd)  from within ubuntu?
[21:49] <MoPac> Beldar: This is a fresh drive -- there's nothing at all on it at the moment. I just don't want to have to resize partitions later
[21:50] <Beldar> !eol | feldoh2go read the eol upgrade
[21:50] <Beldar> MoPac, Sure, I'm not up on efi manual installs is all.
[21:51] <MoPac> What I'm wondering is: will the stuff that a legacy system writes to "/boot" now be written to the EFI boot partition? Or is the EFI boot partition just a new object in the cascade, so it will point to a /boot partition, and then the decryption will happen?
[21:51] <feldoh2go> my issue is i really want to get to 14, but nothing would install directly on to the computer...untill i went way back to a live 10.04 that i had from years back.
[21:51] <Beldar> MoPac, legacy would be mbr
[21:52] <feldoh2go> 12 will not load....nor will mint 14, 17, 15
[21:52] <Beldar> feldoh2go, Will not load means?
[21:52] <feldoh2go> hoping to inch up from 10 to 14...can that work?
[21:53] <feldoh2go> it means they lock up and go nowhere.  12.04 says cold plug something or other
[21:53] <MoPac> Beldar: So the efi partition replaces the MBR but doesn't replace /boot ?
[21:53] <Beldar> feldoh2go, You need to know generalizing here does not help you, be exact.
[21:53] <hakim> hello all.. i am having issues with automounting 2 extra harddrives..when i boot it says "the disk for /mnt/xxxxx" is not ready yet or not present" continue to wait or press s to skip mounting... it wont boot until i press s.. then it will eventually mount by itself.
[21:54] <Beldar> MoPac, Can't say other than a legacy is a mbr boot, I would just go msdos if it were me,
[21:54] <feldoh2go> finally gave up on mint....   cold plug device line fails...two times seems like, every time i try to boot up
[21:55] <feldoh2go> seems like 12 is cooking right along to install....then stops ....up the list is the cold plug devices (fail)
[21:55] <lodahu> Hi ! Do anybody know how I can set my age, gender and town with xchat ?
[21:56] <mawmaw> Hi guys, how can I make gnome shell search for files? Somehow it's not working now
[21:57] <Beldar> feldoh2go, seems that error is you project than eh.
[21:57] <Beldar> lodahu, Try #xchat
[21:57] <feldoh2go> ok....but i have no idea what 'cold plug device' means
[21:58] <lodahu> Beldar, I did :(
[21:58] <eeee> mawmaw: sudo find <directory> -name <filename> , e.g sudo find / -name myfile
[21:58] <Beldar> lodahu, Honestly I would not have that info there.
[21:58] <mawmaw> eeee: yeah man thanks for that but I'm talking about the search bar you get when you go to activities
[21:59] <lodahu> Beldar : ok thank you very much for answering :)
[21:59] <hakim> can anyone help me with my hdd auto mount issues?
[21:59] <Beldar> hakim, NOt without a decription
[21:59] <eeee> mawmaw: well, im using unity, in nautilus there's a magnifier icon you click to search fo files
[21:59] <Beldar> description*
[21:59] <mawmaw> eeee: thanks man
[22:00] <feldoh2go> is there some way to scroll back up the data rolling accross the screen while setting up...look for other trouble?
[22:00] <dw1> whats the best way to unlock another user on the same machine's home folder, knowing the password & passphrase?
[22:00] <hakim> when i restart is says "the disk for /mnt/xxxx is not ready or present press s to skip or m for manual @Beldar
[22:00] <Beldar> dw1, Not supported here.
[22:01] <Beldar> hakim, Have you added it to fstab?
[22:01] <hakim> then when i restart i get drive error
[22:01] <hakim> on both drives that i tried to automount
[22:01] <hakim> im doing my editing via Disks GUI
[22:02] <Beldar> hakim, Automount easily done with fstab use it.
[22:02] <hakim> im not a coder
[22:02] <Beldar> hakim, Neither am I.
[22:02] <dw1> Beldar: k. basically i want a separate user/folder to copy backups from a server using passwordless publickey (so my main account isnt compromised if my server is), and to access them from my main user. nothing nefarious. :)
[22:02] <hakim> how do i use fstab
[22:02] <Beldar> !fstab | hakim
[22:03] <hakim> so in other words the GUI in Ubuntu is broken!
[22:03] <Beldar> dw1, Sure, however your description entails getting in with the users info, ask them for it.
[22:03] <dw1> Beldar: as mentioned, I have the password and passphrase. i made the account
[22:04] <Guest78826> skype is no longer supported via the partners repo?
[22:04] <dw1> Beldar: I just want to mount it gracefully from my main user
[22:04] <Beldar> hakim, Not necessarily, it seems you have limited understanding, from what I can tell.
[22:04] <Beldar> dw1, I can't help you.
[22:04] <hakim> there are options in the Disks GUI to do what i want...however when using the GUI it doesnt work
[22:05] <hakim> sound broken
[22:05] <hakim> sounds broken to me
[22:05] <Beldar> hakim, If you refuse to just learn you will be stuck, relying on the channel for such basic stuff is not a good start, I gave you a link this info is all over the web.
[22:06] <Beldar> google fstab automount ubuntu
[22:06] <hakim> its not that i refuse to learn.. its that the GUI should just work
[22:07] <hakim> ill probably have to start with a fresh fstab file?
[22:07] <hakim> seems as if mine is screwed up
[22:07] <Beldar> hakim, that is a hardheaded response, we do not know if you are correctly even doing it. The fstab option is the most common used method.
[22:08] <Beldar> no fresh fstab
[22:09] <Beldar> hakim, fstab mount what mounts now like the OS, swap, etc
[22:10] <hakim> ok
[22:10] <hakim> im going to put a pastbin up
[22:11] <hakim> im sure my file is messed up becasue i have been trying to get it correct all day
[22:11] <lorenx> hey, anyone having problems with skype 4.2.0.11 lately? i cannot login, it's keep on saying "skype can't connect" but i could till yesterday and i can connect from my phone anyway. i've also tryed to purge and install again, ubuntu 14.04. thanks
[22:11] <Beldar> hakim, It is not hard just a little study of it and some questions if needed, you will figure it out with help if needed. ;)
[22:11] <feldoh2go> 12.-04 loading hangs at:  stopping save kernel messages   (ok)
[22:11] <hakim> sudo gedit fstab?
[22:12] <Beldar> feldoh2go, I would look on the web and at askubuntu on installs on this exact computer, there may a fix known.
[22:12] <TJ-> hakim: "pastebinit /etc/fstab"
[22:13] <feldoh2go> search at askubuntu  i have not tried.  many times have googled
[22:13] <feldoh2go> someone said a controller would not accept the kernel
[22:13] <Beldar> lorenx, This skype from their website or the ubuntu repos, there is a skype wiki.
[22:14] <Beldar> feldoh2go, What is the chip you have?
[22:14] <lorenx> Beldar: ubuntu repo
[22:14] <Beldar> !skype | lorenx just a link
[22:14] <hakim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927779/  i have 3 hard drives 2 of which i want to automount other than the obvious OS harddrive.
[22:15] <feldoh2go> pentium dual core e2200 baldar
[22:15] <Beldar> hakim, Be sure to preface your info to the user who asks.
[22:15] <hakim> good idea
[22:16] <Beldar> ;)
[22:16] <hakim> tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927779/  i have 3 hard drives 2 of which i want to automount other than the obvious OS harddrive
[22:16] <Beldar> feldoh2go, Just wondered if it was a pae kernel issue, should not be, you can tab complete nicks so they are correct.
[22:17] <lorenx> Beldar: thanks but i guess it's something weird, i used it quietly yesterday. i've thought about the firewall but it's not... maybe it may help to know i'm not the only one today, maybe a server error...
[22:17] <TJ-> hakim: I see 1 problem already; you have two file-systems both set to auto-mount at /media/hakim
[22:17] <TrueNhero> daftykins: hi, my "mount" after reboot http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927798/
[22:17] <lorenx> Beldar: i don't think it has been updated tonite, right?
[22:17] <feldoh2go> i can tab complete nicks....?
[22:18] <Beldar> lorenx, In what release?
[22:18] <hakim> what do i do to fix that TJ
[22:18] <Beldar> feldoh2go, yes
[22:18] <daftykins> TrueNhero: "ls -al /media/sea60a/" pastebin please
[22:18] <lorenx> i'm on 14.04
[22:19] <feldoh2go> ...hmm.   i have no idea what that means, I mean....
[22:19] <hakim> TJ: what do i do to fix that?
[22:19] <Beldar> lorenx, Running a update now to see, however that would be an unusual anomaly.
[22:19] <TJ-> hakim: make the mountpoint directory unique. The problem you have though, is you're trying to have the additional file-systems mount on pass 0.... that is reserved for the kernel file-systems like /proc. You need to change the pass numbers to 2, so they mount *after* the root file-system (which is mounted on pass 1)
[22:20] <TJ-> hakim: Look at line #7 - that shows the 'column' titles .... change the numbers under the "<pass>" column for your additional file-systems from "0" to "2"
[22:21] <hakim> TJ: sorry dude... i understand what your saying but i dont know what to edit to fix that
[22:21] <hakim> ok
[22:21] <lorenx> Beldar: yeah, i think so... i've also tryed the 4.3.0.37 from http://goo.gl/CjhtzJ but it seems it has some problems :)
[22:21] <TJ-> hakim: Also, you've deleted the root file-system mount entry entirely, so I'm not sure how the system can start!
[22:21] <lorenx> Beldar: you are running fine a 4.2.0.11 skype version on 14.04?
[22:21] <TrueNhero> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927869/
[22:22] <TJ-> hakim: If you do an "update-grub" the system could become unbootable as a result
[22:22] <hakim> i didnt edit this file at all @TJ
[22:23] <TJ-> hakim: Well, whatever did... throw it away ... as *far* as possible because it has seriously broken the fstab
[22:23] <hakim> i did my changes from the GUI .. so in other words the gUI is broken
[22:24] <TJ-> hakim: do you mean this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gnome-disk-utility/
[22:24] <Bashing-om> lorenx: Others are also haveing difficulities .. see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237373 .. these (re)installed to resolve.
[22:24] <hakim> its hard for me to see this in column format @TJ can this be opened in calc
[22:24] <TJ-> hakim: Insert additional spaces if you need to, to make the columns align better. Tabs or spaces are allowed as separators.
[22:24] <daftykins> TrueNhero: assuming that's your username, "truenhero", you have read-write access and permissions look ok.
[22:25] <hakim> i have it opened in gedit
[22:25] <Beldar> lorenx, I have the one from the skype site however never use it I use it in windows, either install does not pull up my 3rd part cam.
[22:25] <hakim> i used the stock disks program.. whatever ubuntu 14.04 comes with
[22:25] <daftykins> TrueNhero: try "touch /media/sea60a/testfile"
[22:26] <Beldar> lorenx,Logs in normally however. I would go to home unhide files and go to .config and remove it and set up skype again IE name and password.
[22:27] <TJ-> hakim: I can't help you with that, I don't use Unity and I tend to stay away from GUI tools for system-critical configuration
[22:27] <hakim> i would just like to start from fresh looks like there is 9 lines for 3 drives.. do you know which lines can be deleted @TJ
[22:27] <hakim> BTW i really appreciate your help
[22:28] <Beldar> hakim, type tj than hit tab to complete the nick so it is correct
[22:28] <hakim> nice! @ Beldar
[22:28] <hakim> thanks
[22:29] <Beldar> no prob hakim
[22:29] <TJ-> hakim: Let's find out what the proper entry for the root file-system should be. do "pastebinit /proc/cmdline"
[22:29] <Beldar> Guest28362, lets party like it's 1999
[22:29] <hakim> terminal sudo gedit /proc/cmdline? @ TJ-
[22:30] <TJ-> hakim: no, just type the command I showed you in the terminal shell and tell me the pastebin URL it gives you
[22:30] <hakim> ok
[22:30] <lorenx> Bashing-om, Beldar: hey, it's seems now apt get make me install the 4.3 version? you too or i did some weird things with gdebi and the deb new version...
[22:31] <Beldar> lorenx, I think mine is from skype like I said I never use just happens to be installed, the wiki says use the repos.
[22:31] <hakim> installing pastbin give me a sec..
[22:31] <koell> is it possible to encrypt a partition after installation?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> lorenx: Sorry, I do not run skype, can not confirm .. ( seems skype is having a problem, though) .
[22:31] <hakim> @ TJ-
[22:32] <Beldar> skype logs in here fine
[22:32] <hakim> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927954/
[22:33] <OerHeks> lorenx, just update, update should show you 1 hold back package, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:34] <lorenx> OerHeks: everything's fine for apt-get update
[22:34] <Beldar> lorenx, pastebin that apt-get update
[22:35] <Beldar> lorenx, Did you try removing the config and setting it up again?
[22:35] <lorenx> http://pastebin.com/01xxsaUa
[22:35] <lorenx> Beldar: yeah, many times :)
[22:35] <Beldar> coo
[22:35] <Beldar> cool
[22:36] <OerHeks> after install, logout/login again?
[22:36] <TJ-> hakim: thanks, I'm rewriting a corrected fstab for you. Can you tell me what this reports? "sudo blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/disk/by-uuid/87abac01-516f-4367-8109-f25fd04c0042"  ?
[22:36] <lorenx> OerHeks: i just cannot login, it always answers with a red writing "Skype con't connect"
[22:37] <hakim> ext4 @ TJ-
[22:37] <TJ-> hakim thanks
[22:38] <hakim> no thank you
[22:38] <hello> hey folks
[22:39] <TrueNhero> daftykins: touch: cannot touch `/media/sea60a/testfile': Read-only file system
[22:39] <Beldar> lorenx, What is after "Reading package lists... Done" in the apt-get?
[22:39] <hello> I use grep -r "text" its a bit slow is there a faster command?
[22:39] <lorenx> i've tried to enable the log but it doens't log plain text
[22:39] <lorenx> Beldar: nothing
[22:39] <reisio> hello: not really
[22:39] <reisio> hello: unless you know more
[22:39] <lorenx> prompt is back
[22:39] <daftykins> TrueNhero: on more "ls -al /media/"
[22:39] <daftykins> *one
[22:40] <Beldar> lorenx, How long did you wait?
[22:40] <lorenx> about 1 second, 1 and half
[22:40] <Beldar> lorenx, Let it finish, not long enough at times
[22:41] <TJ-> hakim: This should be the correct minimal fstab. I suggest you try a reboot using it first to ensure it doesn't cause problems, then you can add in the additional mounts. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927992/
[22:41] <lorenx> Beldar: what do you mean :)
[22:42] <TrueNhero> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928012/
[22:42] <Beldar> Beldar> lorenx, Let it finish, not a long enough wait at times
[22:42] <hakim> thank you very much @ TJ-
[22:42] <hakim> i will try rebooting with it
[22:43] <hello> reisio what more?
[22:43] <hello> I might know which files to check
[22:43] <Beldar> lorenx, should give more info or return to how the cli starts, try sudo apt-get -f install  I wonder if you have a broken install.
[22:43] <hello> so it wont check all
[22:43] <hello> saves time
[22:43] <reisio> hello: yes, that would save time
[22:44] <hello> reisio are u good with regex?
[22:44] <lorenx> Beldar: i don't have any broken thing, apt is fine... it just propose the 4.3 version now... and this sounds weird
[22:44] <Beldar> lorenx, How do you know you do not?
[22:44] <hello> I am using sudo find -type f -name "*.*" -exec sed -i 's/Votes//g' {} \; to erase Votes text string, however for next step I want to erase text string only from specific files
[22:45] <hello> and keep it in da rest
[22:45] <hello> :)
[22:45] <lorenx> cause all command run fine, update, install, purge, autoremove, autoclean...
[22:45] <daftykins> TrueNhero: it definitely matches your username, yes?
[22:45] <reisio> hello: you can 'find' specific files
[22:46] <TrueNhero> daftykins: yes it is
[22:46] <hello> thing is many files share same string
[22:46] <Beldar> lorenx, I have had broken installs and all those run fine, it is if you are reading the cli correctly, the command I gave you is just a check, worth running.
[22:46] <daftykins> reisio / Beldar i could definitely use a second opinion on this one if you could
[22:46] <hello> its required to remove it only from a specific type of files
[22:46] <TJ-> hello: it might be safer to use "-execdir" instead of "-exec"
[22:46] <hello> TJ how come?
[22:47] <lorenx> oh, you mean sudo apt-get -f install? yeah, i've already run it also, sorry ;)
[22:47] <hello> linux overload here lol
[22:47] <Beldar> daftykins, Heh outside my pay scale. ;)
[22:47] <TJ-> hello: "man find" then "/-execdir"
[22:47] <reisio> safe is having a backup
[22:47] <Beldar> lorenx, Cool, thanks.
[22:47] <hello> yes @ backup
[22:47] <hakim> it works @ TJ- ...now i just need help adding the automount lines.
[22:47] <hello> brb
[22:47] <TJ-> hakim: OK, let me re-add in all those you had before
[22:47] <mikemikemike> I'm planning on installing Ubuntu using only 1 partition. It is easy later on to say, add a swap and home partition?
[22:47] <hakim> no
[22:48] <daftykins> reisio or TJ- - /dev/sdb1 has write issues - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927798/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7927869/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928012/ <-- path is non-writable by user with 'touch /media/sea60a/testfile' - ?
[22:48] <hakim> not all just 2 @ TJ-
[22:48] <daftykins> i see nothing wrong.
[22:48] <TrueNhero> daftykins: the strange part is that when i delete or do something with files, the permission change
[22:48] <Beldar> mikemikemike, You can separate out home yes and make a swap, just be sure you have an understanding of tyoes of partitions and the limitations on a single HD.
[22:48] <reisio> daftykins: what user?
[22:48] <Beldar> types*
[22:49] <mikemikemike> Beldar:Thanks! :)
[22:49] <daftykins> reisio: the one the path is owned by
[22:49] <Beldar> mikemikemike,If that makes no sense say so. ;)
[22:49] <reisio> daftykins: that's no kind of answer :p
[22:49] <Beldar> bazinga
[22:50] <mikemikemike> It does. I have 16GB RAM, so figure it's not really needed.
[22:50] <daftykins> reisio: lol, sure it is - "truenhero"
[22:50] <TJ-> hakim: OK, well I've added them in ... you can either comment-them out with a "#" at the start of each line, or delete them, as needed. Also, read the comment I've left for the last 2 lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928076/
[22:50] <hakim> ok thanks
[22:50] <reisio> daftykins: you try unmounting it and remounting it?
[22:51] <Beldar> mikemikemike, Generally I set the swappiness to 10, but I have only 3 gigs.
[22:51] <mikemikemike> Swappieness being the size of the swap partition>
[22:51] <daftykins> TrueNhero: they change? how?
[22:51] <reisio> mikemikemike: what?
[22:51] <bekks> mikemikemike: Swapiness has nothing to do with the size of the swap partition.
[22:51] <Beldar> mikemikemike, No when it starts to swap.
[22:52] <daftykins> reisio: the user in here is TrueNhero - we did do a remount rw before, not sure if we tested it
[22:52] <Beldar> !swap | mikemikemike look here
[22:52] <mikemikemike> Alright. then I don't understand what swappiness. means.
[22:52] <reisio> daftykins: how about a 'umount', followed by an explicit 'mount'
[22:52] <mikemikemike> Thabnks for the link.
[22:52] <Beldar> no prob
[22:52] <mikemikemike> Will read that FAQ.
[22:53] <daftykins> reisio: roger that, TrueNhero try the above ^
[22:53] <TJ-> daftykins: TrueNhero I'd be checking "cat /proc/mounts" in case the file system was remounted read-only, and I'd be checking the device hasn't slipped its write-protect switch on
[22:53] <mikemikemike> Also, I have a spare partition with 20GB~. If I install Ubuntu on there, will dual boot with my Windows partition automatically be configures where I'll see the Grub screen?
[22:53] <daftykins> TJ-: ty sir
[22:54] <Beldar> mikemikemike, Grub should show all bootable partitions.
[22:55] <mikemikemike> Alright. Just checking.
[22:55] <al1o> I have a USB Soundcard which is perfectly recognized on my first physical USB port, however on the second USB port it is not recognized. How can I make Ubuntu recognize always my usb soundcard?
[22:55] <mikemikemike> Going to read that FAQ now.
[22:55] <TrueNhero> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928119/
[22:55] <Beldar> al1o, Check the ports info on that computer some have specific uses and limitations at times.
[22:56] <reisio> al1o: it might get power only from one, for example
[22:56] <al1o> not that I know... device is a Banana Pi
[22:56] <TrueNhero> daftykins: i do umount/mount before
[22:56] <daftykins> TrueNhero: and the touch testfile has the same effect?
[22:58] <digital> Olá
[22:58] <Beldar> al1o, Is Ubuntu even related here?
[22:58] <TrueNhero> daftykins: nothing happens
[22:58] <al1o> sure, running Lubuntu on the device
[22:58] <daftykins> TrueNhero: it should run and complete with no output, bbs
[22:59] <zartoosh> hi I am using ubuntu 14.04. I keep observing this in my /var/log/messages init: upstart-file-bridge main process ended, respawning
[22:59] <TrueNhero> daftykins: bbs?
[22:59] <daftykins> be back soon
[22:59] <Beldar> al1o, My guess is just limitations on the usb ports, a lsusb might tell if it shows.
[23:00] <TrueNhero> daftykins:(touch)it run and complete with no output
[23:00] <TJ-> TrueNhero: "strace -o /tmp/touch-strace.log -e trace=file touch /media/sea60a/testfile && pastebinit /tmp/touch-strace.log"
[23:02] <TrueNhero> TJ-:  wait please i dont have pastebinit
[23:02] <root_> list
[23:02] <root_> exit
[23:02] <svetlana> root_, hi! this OS is in many languages, which ones are you chasing?
[23:02] <TrueNhero> TJ-: daftykins:  http://pastebin.com/Y60Xj7WK
[23:03] <user1> help
[23:03] <user1> exit
[23:03] <user1> quit
[23:03] <user1> !
[23:03] <user1> q
[23:03] <svetlana> user1: prepend a /
[23:03] <user1> as
[23:03] <user1> das
[23:03] <user1> d
[23:03] <user1> asdads
[23:03] <unopaste> user1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:03] <svetlana> :s
[23:03] <svetlana> close the darn thing using [X] button?
[23:04] <Beldar> !root > user1
[23:04] <al1o> Beldar, reisio tnx... I can't detect anything strange
[23:05] <user1> ubottu:
[23:05] <reisio> al1o: you could try using udev to give it a unique /dev/ name
[23:06] <reisio> it's possible for an OS to trick itself into thinking a device only lives on one particular port
[23:06] <al1o> reisio that's a valid point.. I'll try it
[23:06] <user1> info
[23:06] <TJ-> TrueNhero: now do "stat touch /media/sea60a/testfile" and see if it gives details of the file
[23:06] <user1> disconnect
[23:06] <Beldar> oh know the banana slips on its peel
[23:07] <eeee> user1: try adding a "/" before the commands
[23:07] <samthewildone> !sql
[23:07] <samthewildone> !help
[23:07] <hello> oki solved
[23:07] <hello> :D
[23:08] <eeee> !mysql > samthewildone
[23:08] <samthewildone> !mysql
[23:08] <TJ-> TrueNhero: typo correction: do "stat /media/sea60a/testfile" and see if it gives details of the file
[23:08] <samthewildone> nothing
[23:08]  * samthewildone goes to google
[23:08] <hakim> so edited the fstab again for the 2 drives i want to auto mount and this is what i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928213/ @ TJ-  ..... im guessing that i may need to add 3 to one of the two drives in the pass column.. because i am now getting that failed to mount message at boot
[23:08] <TJ-> select * from samthewildone  where question = 'help';
[23:09] <Blaster> Hey all of the sudden I am getting "Skype can't connect".   How can I diagnose the issue?  I replaced my modem today but it still works on other devices so it's frustrating.
[23:09] <Blaster> This happens when I simply try to sign in to Skype.
[23:10] <reisio> Blaster: you could try mv'ing ~/.skype (or whatever) and let it make a new one
[23:10] <TJ-> hakim: No. If you get failed to mount it is because the storage devices haven't been found, *or* the directories you've defined as the mount points do *not* exist. Have you previously created those directories ("ls /mnt/" will show what is there) ?
[23:10] <svetlana> Blaster, what reisio said, and probably start it from terminal so that it logs something ... iirc they don't have a 14.04 release yet tho
[23:11] <Blaster> Moving ~/.Skype didn't fix it.   I will try starting from terminal
[23:11] <user1> how to install the firefox at windows?
[23:11] <user1> how to install the firefox at windows 9x?
[23:11] <Beldar> Blaster, try removing /.config/skype
[23:11] <hakim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7928253/ @ TJ-
[23:11] <Blaster> Nothing logged to console when trying to sign in after launching from console.
[23:11] <Beldar> ~/.config/skype*
[23:11] <Blaster> Same error message.
[23:11] <Blaster> Beldar:  I will try that.
[23:11] <svetlana> user1, ask ##windows please, i dunno ... thought they'd have an installer, or if they don't then you need to compile ...
[23:13] <Blaster>  Still no go after removing ~/.config/Skype.  :(
[23:13] <Blaster> What else can I try?
[23:13] <Blaster> I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
[23:13] <hakim> if they are there should i delete them and reboot to try again? @ TJ-
[23:13] <Beldar> Blaster, Di you have to relaod the name and password?
[23:13] <Beldar> Did*
[23:13] <Blaster> Beldar:  Yeah.
[23:14] <Guest63296> Hi there!There is question.Can the absence of drivers cause overheating of laptop?
[23:14] <Beldar> Blaster, WE saw another user with same issue if it was not you, works fine here.
[23:14] <TJ-> hakim: No. They *need* to be there. "mount" does not create mount points... if they are missing, mount fails
[23:15] <Beldar> Guest63296, theoretically yes
[23:15] <Blaster> This just started today for me.  Although I have been experiencing other issues with Skype, like not receiving certain group chat messages.
[23:15] <TrueNhero> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/w0N4vSJr
[23:15] <hakim> they are there
[23:17] <usr13> Guest63296: Actually, the absence of drivers will usually only result in not having access to the particular device, nothing more usually.
[23:17] <hakim> they are there but i still get that message saying press s to skip or m for manual at start up @ TJ-
[23:17] <Guest63296> :Beldar how to check presence of drivers, is there some kind of terminal comands?
[23:17] <samthewildone> wow there is so much more in sql
[23:17] <samthewildone> :|
[23:17] <samthewildone> Relational Algebra
[23:18] <usr13> Guest63296: lspci  #To see what devices you may have to check on.
[23:18] <samthewildone> ... guess I better brush up on some skills
[23:18] <TJ-> TrueNhero: so it works, the file is there
[23:18] <usr13> Guest63296: lsmod  #To show a list of most of the driver modules you have loaded now
[23:18] <TJ-> hakim: are you sure you haven't listed a UUID in the fstab that is *not* connected at boot time?
[23:19] <TrueNhero> TJ-: im going to tell u what happens if i delete one file
[23:19] <usr13> Guest63296: Most modern Operating Systems (like Ubuntu), will automatically load pretty much all the driver modules you need.
[23:19] <usr13> Guest63296: So do you have an issue with an overheating laptop?
[23:20] <usr13> Guest63296: Or what?
[23:20] <Guest63296> usr13: yes
[23:20] <TJ-> hakim: try "sudo blkid" and compare all the UUIDs of the connected devices with the fstab entries. If you have an fstab UUID that isn't reported by blkid, that'll be your problem. Either have that device connected, or remove/comment it in fstab
[23:20] <usr13> Guest63296: And what makes you think it is overheating?
[23:20] <TrueNhero> i have the dl.exe problem on wine...
[23:21] <Guest63296> Temperature of left side is too damn high
[23:21] <usr13> Guest63296: The bottom line is that the harder you work a computer, the more heat it will generate.
[23:22] <Guest63296> usr13 I know ,its obvious
[23:22] <usr13> Guest63296: So if you were to set it to go to sleep or hybernate pretty quickly when not in use, then you'll have less heat issues
[23:22] <OerHeks> Guest63296, what laptop?
[23:22] <Guest63296> lenovo think pad 15
[23:22] <usr13> Guest63296: That is not to say that you don't have a problem that needs to be solved...
[23:22] <usr13> Guest63296: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[23:24] <Guest63296> I am actualy using elementary os based on ubuntu/
[23:24] <usr13> Guest63296: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689
[23:24] <hakim> should the fstab file system be like this? /dev/disk/by-uuid/bf6137fa-90e3-444d-a344-6b8af2252b34 @ TJ-
[23:24] <usr13> Guest63296: Elementary is based on 12.04, but there is an IRC channel for elementary
[23:24] <usr13> !elementary | Guest63296
[23:24] <Guest63296> thanks a lot
[23:25] <Guest63296> for help
[23:25] <Guest63296> will go there
[23:25] <usr13> Guest63296: Try the elementary channel.  (Although it is based on Ubuntu 12.04, it is *not* ubuntu and has it's own set of issues.)
[23:26] <usr13> Guest63296: So /join #elementary  #And ask there...
[23:27] <hakim> blkid shows a label and a uuid.. should i put the label in the fstab aswell @ TJ-
[23:27] <hakim> for the drives i want to auto start
[23:27] <reisio> hakim: one or the other, not both
[23:27] <hakim> ok
[23:27] <reisio> if the label is unique, then it's easier for a human to deal with
[23:27] <OerHeks> Guest63296, sudo apt-get install thinkfan  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Thinkpad_ACPI
[23:27] <reisio> LABEL=foo vs UUID=bar
[23:29] <hakim> the mount point has the label in its name will that cause issues ?
[23:29] <hakim> the uuid matches
[23:30] <noobatron> Any C compiler support for Ubuntu
[23:30] <TJ-> hakim: No, use only one of them. The reason we use UUID is they are supposed to be Universally Unique IDentifiers
[23:31] <reisio> noobatron: sure
[23:31] <eeee> noobatron: sudo apt-get install gcc
[23:31] <reisio> noobatron: I'd recommend here, #friendly-coders, or #gcc
[23:31] <hakim> ok the mount folder has folders in it with the uuid as its name.. should i delete those folders?
[23:31] <TJ-> hakim: You could replace the "/dev/disk/by-uudi/" part with just "UUID=" ... see the entry I added for the root file-system for an example
[23:31] <noobatron> Sweet
[23:32] <hakim> ok i will give that a try
[23:32] <noobatron> Is there a way to save IRC channels?
[23:32] <reisio> noobatron: to "log"
[23:32] <usr13> noobatron: Depends on your client
[23:32] <reisio> noobatron: use a dedicated client instead of a web client
[23:32] <reisio> noobatron: http://hexchat.org/
[23:32] <usr13> noobatron: Short answer is "yes"
[23:33] <reisio> noobatron: (and toggle logging in prefs)
[23:33] <usr13> noobatron: www.irssi.org/
[23:33] <noobatron> Thanks!
[23:33] <usr13> noobatron: www.irssi.org/documentation
[23:33] <reisio> hexchat'll be a better fit for a Windows user
[23:34] <usr13> reisio: Agreed.  (But is noobatron a Windows user, (or is he a Linux user)?
[23:34] <usr13> reisio: ;)
[23:35] <reisio> usr13: he's a windows user
[23:35] <reisio> 's'why I said
[23:35] <hakim> under type column it says auto.. should it be ext4 instead? @ TJ-  @ reisio
[23:35] <usr13> reisio: I'm going to assume you know more about noobatron than I do.
[23:36] <Beldar> reisio, knows everything they are in the ether. ;)
[23:37] <reisio> I know '/ctcp noobatron version' more
[23:37] <reisio> s/know/knew/
[23:38] <TJ-> hakim: If you know it will be that is fine, the "auto" option tells mount to try to figure it out for itself
[23:38] <hakim> so it doesnt matter
[23:40] <hakim> i dont get it... the UUID matches so it should not be giving an error.. going to try another reboot
[23:43] <hakim> an error occured while mounting mnt/media ....
[23:43] <hakim> very frustrating
[23:53] <koell> why isn't aptik already in the package sources? must have!
[23:55] <darkmessiah> 1
[23:55] <Beldar> !info aptik
[23:56] <Beldar> koell, In a ppa, and honestly like ppa's probably more harm than good and unneeded
[23:56] <darkmessiah> q
[23:56] <Beldar> and not supported
[23:57] <TJ-> hakim: did you type that accurately "mnt/media" ... because it is missing the leading "/"
[23:57] <hakim> it is accurate on fstab
[23:58] <hakim> im just about ready to give up on auto mounting
[23:58] <hakim> and just manually do it
[23:58] <hakim> not worth all this hassle
[23:59] <koell> i think do it by hand will save battery on a notebook