| bluesabre | bbabl | 00:06 |
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| Unit193 | Adios. | 00:08 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: actually that seems to depend on kernel/hardware/drivers, it's impossible for me to switch it entirely off (i.e. there is a hardware limit or something) | 07:21 |
| Unit193 | xubutrello: card 26 comment systemd 208 now in utopic's main archive. | 09:20 |
| xubutrello | Hi, Unit193. | 09:20 |
| Unit193 | xubutrello: card 26 comment systemd 208 now in utopic. | 09:20 |
| xubutrello | Added "systemd 208 now in utopic." comment to "systemd testing" card. | 09:20 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: if you could reply to hjudt on the xfce-devel email, i forwarded your issue (he's the backlight expert) | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | aw, I have to open my email | 10:44 |
| bluesabre | :< | 10:44 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: responded | 10:48 |
| ochosi | thanks :) | 10:52 |
| ochosi | better to discuss such issues so that more ppl can easily follow | 10:52 |
| ochosi | we might need more testing, the backlight stuff in particular, but the power manager as a whole needs lots of hw testing | 10:53 |
| ochosi | (i mean it's unlikely to work worse than before, but...) | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:53 |
| ochosi | also, i think currently the menu disappears when you let go of the handle, not sure i like that | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | so, did Unit193 volunteer to package the soundmenu? | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | yes it does, there is a way to fix that | 10:54 |
| ochosi | kinda, but matias uses his own mpris library | 10:54 |
| bluesabre | but I forgot the particulars | 10:54 |
| ochosi | so that needs packaging as well | 10:54 |
| bluesabre | fun | 10:54 |
| ochosi | and i wanna ask him why that's necessary | 10:54 |
| bluesabre | sounds like lots of work | 10:54 |
| ochosi | yeah, since he wrote his own library, i don't believe he'll drop it because i ask | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | probably because mpris is not the easiest to work with, and an interface library simplifies things | 10:55 |
| ochosi | but if we consider it as an alternative to the soundmenu we currently have, we should talk about it | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | I mean, its dbus, but complicated dbus | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 10:55 |
| ochosi | i think it'd be a good start for my plan to rid us of the dependency of indicators | 10:56 |
| ochosi | i mean they generally work really nicely now, but i expect more problems ahead with the porting to phone etc | 10:57 |
| ochosi | and unity8/qt | 10:57 |
| ochosi | so i'd rather have alternatives ready when that starts going down | 10:57 |
| bluesabre | yeah, makes sense to me | 10:58 |
| ochosi | another thing i'm sometimes wondering about is what'll happen with the systray as soon as xfce goes gtk3 | 10:59 |
| ochosi | (no more xembed) | 10:59 |
| ochosi | so plugins are generally a safe bet | 10:59 |
| bluesabre | going to have some new releases of mugshot, catfish, and menulibre this weekend... time permitting | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, will you be around this weekend? | 11:06 |
| ochosi | cool | 11:06 |
| ochosi | yeah, i will be | 11:06 |
| ochosi | today i won't, gotta rush of to a family festivity | 11:07 |
| ochosi | but sat and sun i should be around | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | cool | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | I'll also try to email andrew today... but it seems like the greeter development finally slowed down | 11:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, he didn't respond to my last email | 11:09 |
| ochosi | guess he's busy | 11:10 |
| ochosi | the dualhead setup is a nice feature, but having to write your own xrandr-script for the greeter... not sure about that | 11:10 |
| ochosi | i mean it's still useful, generally speaking, but it'll only be a small fraction of all users that'd benefit from that | 11:11 |
| bluesabre | yeah, but thats like most features in a login screen ;) | 11:12 |
| ochosi | partly true, but this one generally has the potential to improve the default behavior | 11:14 |
| ochosi | but i think we should move away from all the customizability a bit | 11:14 |
| ochosi | it complicates the code quite a bit | 11:14 |
| ochosi | and instead implement a better default | 11:14 |
| ochosi | (not sure andrew will like that though) | 11:15 |
| ochosi | righty, i gotta take off, ttyl | 11:18 |
| bluesabre | agreed | 11:18 |
| bluesabre | have fun, seeya | 11:18 |
| ochosi | u2, cya | 11:18 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734985 FWIW. | 19:18 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 734985 in ibus "[ibus] ibus does not respect /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS" [Normal,Open] | 19:18 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: So, if I have VLC and nightingale open, then hit 'play' in that panel plugin, what happens? | 19:36 |
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