[00:06] bbabl [00:08] Adios. [07:21] bluesabre: actually that seems to depend on kernel/hardware/drivers, it's impossible for me to switch it entirely off (i.e. there is a hardware limit or something) [09:20] xubutrello: card 26 comment systemd 208 now in utopic's main archive. [09:20] Hi, Unit193. [09:20] xubutrello: card 26 comment systemd 208 now in utopic. [09:20] Added "systemd 208 now in utopic." comment to "systemd testing" card. [10:37] bluesabre: if you could reply to hjudt on the xfce-devel email, i forwarded your issue (he's the backlight expert) [10:44] aw, I have to open my email [10:44] :< [10:48] ochosi: responded [10:52] thanks :) [10:52] better to discuss such issues so that more ppl can easily follow [10:53] we might need more testing, the backlight stuff in particular, but the power manager as a whole needs lots of hw testing [10:53] (i mean it's unlikely to work worse than before, but...) [10:53] :) [10:53] also, i think currently the menu disappears when you let go of the handle, not sure i like that [10:53] so, did Unit193 volunteer to package the soundmenu? [10:54] yes it does, there is a way to fix that [10:54] kinda, but matias uses his own mpris library [10:54] but I forgot the particulars [10:54] so that needs packaging as well [10:54] fun [10:54] and i wanna ask him why that's necessary [10:54] sounds like lots of work [10:55] yeah, since he wrote his own library, i don't believe he'll drop it because i ask [10:55] probably because mpris is not the easiest to work with, and an interface library simplifies things [10:55] but if we consider it as an alternative to the soundmenu we currently have, we should talk about it [10:55] I mean, its dbus, but complicated dbus [10:55] yeah [10:56] i think it'd be a good start for my plan to rid us of the dependency of indicators [10:57] i mean they generally work really nicely now, but i expect more problems ahead with the porting to phone etc [10:57] and unity8/qt [10:57] so i'd rather have alternatives ready when that starts going down [10:58] yeah, makes sense to me [10:59] another thing i'm sometimes wondering about is what'll happen with the systray as soon as xfce goes gtk3 [10:59] (no more xembed) [10:59] so plugins are generally a safe bet [11:06] going to have some new releases of mugshot, catfish, and menulibre this weekend... time permitting [11:06] ochosi, will you be around this weekend? [11:06] cool [11:06] yeah, i will be [11:07] today i won't, gotta rush of to a family festivity [11:07] but sat and sun i should be around [11:07] cool [11:08] I'll also try to email andrew today... but it seems like the greeter development finally slowed down [11:09] yeah, he didn't respond to my last email [11:10] guess he's busy [11:10] the dualhead setup is a nice feature, but having to write your own xrandr-script for the greeter... not sure about that [11:11] i mean it's still useful, generally speaking, but it'll only be a small fraction of all users that'd benefit from that [11:12] yeah, but thats like most features in a login screen ;) [11:14] partly true, but this one generally has the potential to improve the default behavior [11:14] but i think we should move away from all the customizability a bit [11:14] it complicates the code quite a bit [11:14] and instead implement a better default [11:15] (not sure andrew will like that though) [11:18] righty, i gotta take off, ttyl [11:18] agreed [11:18] have fun, seeya [11:18] u2, cya [19:18] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734985 FWIW. [19:18] Debian bug 734985 in ibus "[ibus] ibus does not respect /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS" [Normal,Open] [19:36] bluesabre: So, if I have VLC and nightingale open, then hit 'play' in that panel plugin, what happens?