| ScottK | Found and fixed a bug just about 4 months before it would have had its 11th anniversary. | 05:04 |
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| ScottK | (Not Kubuntu related, but I had to share) | 05:05 |
| valorie | extremely cool! | 05:05 |
| valorie | and probably deep in the stack, if it was so old? | 05:05 |
| valorie | congratulations on doing that, ScottK | 05:08 |
| ScottK | Very much a corner case. | 06:08 |
| valorie | ScottK: nice to see someone sweeping the dust bunnies out of the corners | 06:09 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:17 |
| soee | some user reports this issue: | 09:44 |
| soee | kubuntu-plasma5-desktop : Depends: kio-extras but it is not going to be installed | 09:44 |
| jussi | good evening all :) | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | xnox: I am not working on ubiquity; usb-creator might not be able to go upstream for 14.10 because we'd have integration issues from kdelibs4 -> pyqt5 WRT themeing | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | that is unless you have immediate use for it, I'd hold off for 15.04 | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | jussi: hello bruce | 10:53 |
| jussi | hi apachelogger. why am I Bruce today? | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | jussi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | I have to confess I never quite understood that sketch | 10:54 |
| soee | apachelogger: could you take few minutes and check if kubuntu-plasma5-desktop has dependency problems with kio-extras as some users reports ? | 10:54 |
| jussi | apachelogger: ahhhh... | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | soee: not at a work computer I am | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | soee: "dependency problems" is not a description one can look into though :P | 11:18 |
| soee | apachelogger: he posted this http://pastebin.com/s3H2v8Sv | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | that's not really the problem though, something is holding back kio-extras | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | likely another alraedy installed package | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | so it's not an unlikey issue, what you pasted doesn't help finding it though :) | 11:19 |
| soee | is it possible somehow to verify what causing this ? | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | sure if the guy shows up again tell him to run `sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes kio-extras` | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | that will produce output that should say why exactly kio-extras cannot be installed | 11:21 |
| soee | hi dileep | 11:23 |
| soee | 13:21] <apachelogger> sure if the guy shows up again tell him to run `sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes kio-extras` | 11:23 |
| soee | apachelogger: its dileep :) | 11:23 |
| dileep | i tried this | 11:23 |
| soee | and ? | 11:24 |
| dileep | this is what i get | 11:25 |
| dileep | http://pastebin.com/6N4bVZts | 11:25 |
| soee | libexif wasnt it a bit broken and placed in proposed ? | 11:27 |
| soee | not sure though if this verison exactly | 11:27 |
| soee | dileep: do you have by any chance proposed enabled ? | 11:32 |
| dileep | yes. it was checked | 11:33 |
| dileep | i'm updating cache ryt now | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | don't use proposed on the devel series, proposed often gets you into trouble there because all new packages without automated QA land there :) | 11:44 |
| dileep | still getting the same output on the terminal | 11:48 |
| dileep | important updates,recommended updates and unsupported updates are checked | 11:49 |
| dileep | what exactly is "sudo apt-get build-dep ufraw" is used for???? | 11:57 |
| dileep | when i enter this "sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes libexiv2-12" | 11:59 |
| dileep | i get this on the terminal "Package libexiv2-12 is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 12:00 |
| dileep | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:09 |
| dileep | is there anything i can try to get plasma 5 in kubuntu 14.10 using ppa? | 12:48 |
| soee | dileep: it was fresh unicorn installation or upgrade from older version > | 12:51 |
| soee | ? | 12:51 |
| dileep | upgrade | 12:51 |
| soee | id suggest to fresh install | 12:51 |
| dileep | thats painful!!!i always do i get stuck | 12:53 |
| dileep | when* | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | plasma 5 ...ugh! | 12:55 |
| 6JTAA0NVQ | can anyone please tell me the directory where the kde plasmoid widgets are saved? | 13:14 |
| ShalokShalom | http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ | 14:52 |
| ShalokShalom | Why 2 times desktop, please ? o.O | 14:52 |
| * yofel loves when the cause for a bug stares right at his face while he's debugging it for days.. | 21:59 | |
| yofel | I mean, 1.13.1 looks like a very valid floating point number, huh... | 22:00 |
| yofel | shadeslayer, apachelogger: looks sane? http://paste.kde.org/przs0cdiz | 22:06 |
| soee_ | i can confirm now issue that one user reported earlier, iv installed 14.10 using latest iso, now when i want to insall plasma5 from next ppa | 22:08 |
| yofel | ok, I have suspend back \o/ | 22:08 |
| yofel | now hibernate needs to be hidden... | 22:08 |
| soee_ | i have dependency problem kubuntu-plasma5-desktop and kio-extras | 22:08 |
| yofel | the thing with exiv? | 22:09 |
| soee_ | yes, kio-extras depends om libexif2-12 but is not installable | 22:10 |
| yofel | yeah, needs a rebuild | 22:10 |
| yofel | I'll do that | 22:10 |
| soee_ | yofel is there any workaround for this atm ? | 22:21 |
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| yofel | well, you can install libexiv2-12 from trusty... | 22:21 |
| ScottK | yofel: Why are we hiding hibernate again? | 22:24 |
| ScottK | It always worked fine for me, so I don't get it. | 22:24 |
| yofel | uh, IIRC too unreliable to leave enabled by default? | 22:25 |
| yofel | not sure what the state today is, but it's been very unreliable for me | 22:25 |
| ScottK | That's what I've heard, but is it really true. | 22:25 |
| ScottK | Since the Plasma 5 stuff is experimental anyway, maybe leave it an see how it goes. | 22:25 |
| yofel | nah, it's not plasma related, it's logind that doesn't respect the policy. So now that I made powerdevil use logind again Hibernate is "supported" | 22:26 |
| ScottK | I see. | 22:28 |
| ScottK | I'd say leave it and see if people complain. | 22:28 |
| yofel | so, just tried it again... | 22:28 |
| soee | yofel: the rebuild worked i think, the issue is gone | 22:29 |
| yofel | a) the policykit authentication window that asks for the password to allow hibernating with multiple running users showed up after/below the screen lock | 22:29 |
| yofel | b) it did hibernate, it did *not* restore the session | 22:30 |
| yofel | might be thanks to be having 8G RAM and 6G swap... | 22:30 |
| yofel | *me | 22:30 |
| soee | 6G swap ? | 22:31 |
| yofel | yes? | 22:31 |
| soee | is it used anyway ? | 22:32 |
| yofel | often | 22:32 |
| soee | when does the swap is used? when ram is not enough only ? | 22:32 |
| yofel | keep quassel open, 4x dolphin, the whole pim/akonadi stuff, firefox, chrome, then build something with multiple compiler process | 22:33 |
| soee | woho, plasma5 works on my desktop now also :) | 22:33 |
| yofel | and suddenly 8G is not *that* much | 22:33 |
| soee | :) | 22:33 |
| soee | i wonder if this will work: | 22:35 |
| soee | on my laptop i have .config folder, is it possible to link it to owncloud directory and sync with .config on my desktop | 22:36 |
| soee | so i can have the same configuration on both PC and lap | 22:36 |
| ScottK | yofel: Usually for hibernate, you need swap > ram. | 22:36 |
| yofel | IIRC it's swap >= used memory, but I think I didn't have enough indeed | 22:37 |
| yofel | I pretty much stopped using it since I have 8G memory. It simply takes too long to copy that amount of data for my taste | 22:38 |
| yofel | and suspend does the job for me | 22:38 |
| ScottK | Right, but if swap !> ram, it'll be unreliable. | 22:38 |
| yofel | it would be unreliable even then. If you have 8G RAM + 12G swap, and a total of 13G memory used it'll fail again | 22:39 |
| yofel | windows solves this nicely by just using a dedicated file... but I guess that would be too much of a filesystem specific implementation for linux | 22:40 |
| soee | what was the package name for ctcurve for gtk apps ? | 22:54 |
| ScottK | You mean qtcurve? | 22:55 |
| soee | yes | 22:55 |
| ScottK | Binary is qtcurve | 22:56 |
| ScottK | Source is kde-style-qtcurve | 22:56 |
| soee | ah i think it is kde-style-qtcurve4 | 22:56 |
| soee | yup.. got it on gtk settings list | 22:57 |
| soee | Riddell: shouldn't kde-style-qtcurve4 be installed by default and set as defautl for gtk2 apps ? | 23:03 |
| yofel | actually, that's the qt4 theme, you're looking for gtk2-engines-qtcurve | 23:05 |
| soee | i have installed it as it was recommended by kubuntu-plasma5-desktop but gtk2 apps did not use qtcurve if kde-style-qtcurve5 is not installed (it is not available in kcmshell4 kde-gtk-config) | 23:07 |
| soee | *qtcurve4 | 23:07 |
| soee | or wait, wrong | 23:08 |
| soee | qt4 apps ? | 23:08 |
| soee | muon etc | 23:08 |
| soee | but i had ti set it through kde-gtk-config | 23:08 |
| yofel | there's a bunch of config stuff in kde-style-qtcurve4, maybe some of that is needed for the other 2 | 23:10 |
| xnox | apachelogger: i'd love to review / study usb-creator port, and e.g. maintain it as a branch and/or another frontend-ui option upstream. | 23:25 |
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