[05:04] Found and fixed a bug just about 4 months before it would have had its 11th anniversary. [05:05] (Not Kubuntu related, but I had to share) [05:05] extremely cool! [05:05] and probably deep in the stack, if it was so old? [05:08] congratulations on doing that, ScottK [06:08] Very much a corner case. [06:09] ScottK: nice to see someone sweeping the dust bunnies out of the corners [09:17] Good morning. [09:44] some user reports this issue: [09:44] kubuntu-plasma5-desktop : Depends: kio-extras but it is not going to be installed [10:51] good evening all :) [10:52] xnox: I am not working on ubiquity; usb-creator might not be able to go upstream for 14.10 because we'd have integration issues from kdelibs4 -> pyqt5 WRT themeing [10:52] that is unless you have immediate use for it, I'd hold off for 15.04 [10:53] jussi: hello bruce [10:53] hi apachelogger. why am I Bruce today? [10:54] jussi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA [10:54] I have to confess I never quite understood that sketch [10:54] apachelogger: could you take few minutes and check if kubuntu-plasma5-desktop has dependency problems with kio-extras as some users reports ? [10:55] apachelogger: ahhhh... [11:17] soee: not at a work computer I am [11:18] soee: "dependency problems" is not a description one can look into though :P [11:18] apachelogger: he posted this http://pastebin.com/s3H2v8Sv [11:19] that's not really the problem though, something is holding back kio-extras [11:19] likely another alraedy installed package [11:19] so it's not an unlikey issue, what you pasted doesn't help finding it though :) [11:20] is it possible somehow to verify what causing this ? [11:21] sure if the guy shows up again tell him to run `sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes kio-extras` [11:21] that will produce output that should say why exactly kio-extras cannot be installed [11:23] hi dileep [11:23] 13:21] sure if the guy shows up again tell him to run `sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes kio-extras` [11:23] apachelogger: its dileep :) [11:23] i tried this [11:24] and ? [11:25] this is what i get [11:25] http://pastebin.com/6N4bVZts [11:27] libexif wasnt it a bit broken and placed in proposed ? [11:27] not sure though if this verison exactly [11:32] dileep: do you have by any chance proposed enabled ? [11:33] yes. it was checked [11:33] i'm updating cache ryt now [11:44] don't use proposed on the devel series, proposed often gets you into trouble there because all new packages without automated QA land there :) [11:48] still getting the same output on the terminal [11:49] important updates,recommended updates and unsupported updates are checked [11:57] what exactly is "sudo apt-get build-dep ufraw" is used for???? [11:59] when i enter this "sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes libexiv2-12" [12:00] i get this on the terminal "Package libexiv2-12 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [12:00] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" [12:09] Hiyas all [12:48] is there anything i can try to get plasma 5 in kubuntu 14.10 using ppa? [12:51] dileep: it was fresh unicorn installation or upgrade from older version > [12:51] ? [12:51] upgrade [12:51] id suggest to fresh install [12:53] thats painful!!!i always do i get stuck [12:54] when* [12:55] plasma 5 ...ugh! [13:14] <6JTAA0NVQ> can anyone please tell me the directory where the kde plasmoid widgets are saved? [14:52] http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ [14:52] Why 2 times desktop, please ? o.O [21:59] * yofel loves when the cause for a bug stares right at his face while he's debugging it for days.. [22:00] I mean, 1.13.1 looks like a very valid floating point number, huh... [22:06] shadeslayer, apachelogger: looks sane? http://paste.kde.org/przs0cdiz [22:08] i can confirm now issue that one user reported earlier, iv installed 14.10 using latest iso, now when i want to insall plasma5 from next ppa [22:08] ok, I have suspend back \o/ [22:08] now hibernate needs to be hidden... [22:08] i have dependency problem kubuntu-plasma5-desktop and kio-extras [22:09] the thing with exiv? [22:10] yes, kio-extras depends om libexif2-12 but is not installable [22:10] yeah, needs a rebuild [22:10] I'll do that [22:21] yofel is there any workaround for this atm ? === soee_ is now known as soee [22:21] well, you can install libexiv2-12 from trusty... [22:24] yofel: Why are we hiding hibernate again? [22:24] It always worked fine for me, so I don't get it. [22:25] uh, IIRC too unreliable to leave enabled by default? [22:25] not sure what the state today is, but it's been very unreliable for me [22:25] That's what I've heard, but is it really true. [22:25] Since the Plasma 5 stuff is experimental anyway, maybe leave it an see how it goes. [22:26] nah, it's not plasma related, it's logind that doesn't respect the policy. So now that I made powerdevil use logind again Hibernate is "supported" [22:28] I see. [22:28] I'd say leave it and see if people complain. [22:28] so, just tried it again... [22:29] yofel: the rebuild worked i think, the issue is gone [22:29] a) the policykit authentication window that asks for the password to allow hibernating with multiple running users showed up after/below the screen lock [22:30] b) it did hibernate, it did *not* restore the session [22:30] might be thanks to be having 8G RAM and 6G swap... [22:30] *me [22:31] 6G swap ? [22:31] yes? [22:32] is it used anyway ? [22:32] often [22:32] when does the swap is used? when ram is not enough only ? [22:33] keep quassel open, 4x dolphin, the whole pim/akonadi stuff, firefox, chrome, then build something with multiple compiler process [22:33] woho, plasma5 works on my desktop now also :) [22:33] and suddenly 8G is not *that* much [22:33] :) [22:35] i wonder if this will work: [22:36] on my laptop i have .config folder, is it possible to link it to owncloud directory and sync with .config on my desktop [22:36] so i can have the same configuration on both PC and lap [22:36] yofel: Usually for hibernate, you need swap > ram. [22:37] IIRC it's swap >= used memory, but I think I didn't have enough indeed [22:38] I pretty much stopped using it since I have 8G memory. It simply takes too long to copy that amount of data for my taste [22:38] and suspend does the job for me [22:38] Right, but if swap !> ram, it'll be unreliable. [22:39] it would be unreliable even then. If you have 8G RAM + 12G swap, and a total of 13G memory used it'll fail again [22:40] windows solves this nicely by just using a dedicated file... but I guess that would be too much of a filesystem specific implementation for linux [22:54] what was the package name for ctcurve for gtk apps ? [22:55] You mean qtcurve? [22:55] yes [22:56] Binary is qtcurve [22:56] Source is kde-style-qtcurve [22:56] ah i think it is kde-style-qtcurve4 [22:57] yup.. got it on gtk settings list [23:03] Riddell: shouldn't kde-style-qtcurve4 be installed by default and set as defautl for gtk2 apps ? [23:05] actually, that's the qt4 theme, you're looking for gtk2-engines-qtcurve [23:07] i have installed it as it was recommended by kubuntu-plasma5-desktop but gtk2 apps did not use qtcurve if kde-style-qtcurve5 is not installed (it is not available in kcmshell4 kde-gtk-config) [23:07] *qtcurve4 [23:08] or wait, wrong [23:08] qt4 apps ? [23:08] muon etc [23:08] but i had ti set it through kde-gtk-config [23:10] there's a bunch of config stuff in kde-style-qtcurve4, maybe some of that is needed for the other 2 [23:25] apachelogger: i'd love to review / study usb-creator port, and e.g. maintain it as a branch and/or another frontend-ui option upstream.