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dr_jklhow can i reliably determine what acpi_osi strings are valid for my bios?00:02
usr13hakim: YOu shouldn't have to reboot just to test a fstab entry.00:03
usr13hakim: sudo mount -a00:03
usr13hakim: mount00:04
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usr13hakim: Or,  mount /particular/mount/point00:05
hakimi have spent all day on this @ usr13 ... thanks for your help..but i will have to give it another try some other day.. i have run out of time today00:07
hakimthanks for your help @ TJ-00:08
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Beldarkoell, installing unsupported apps to save on battery time is not a good trade off. ;)00:12
koelllol, doesnt matter if supported or not, aptik will not drain that much power for the few seconds it is running00:13
eskrimahi can anyone help me with the installation disk to unbuntu. the cd is for windows. i have installed wine. it appears that is not working. so far i have opened the cd until i came to install.exe. it did work, and it did created an desktop icon for me to access my programs im trying to use. than when i click on the foler that was just created on desktop, as well as a wine icon it doesnt work. the wine icon when opened it says ......00:14
eskrimathat i dont have a windows program to open this program....00:14
Beldarkoell, Does not matter to me but that is not critical thinking all in all.00:14
eskrimawhen i open the other file that is contained in the cd it doesnt evey open.... huuuh00:14
eskrimaplease any help will be apprecaiated00:15
BrantI'm having an issue with ubuntu not going to a GUI after typing in username/pass. Can anyone help out? We can go to PMs if it's easier00:15
eskrimai have ubuntu 12.04 lts... wine is installed. something is wrong with the wine or i dont know ... no windows cd will work or mount or play. just installed and sit there like a sac of patatoes00:16
dotDebbrant can you elaborate on what exactly is happening instead?00:16
veryhappyeskrima: what windows version should this program you're trying to use run on?00:16
Brantsure thing dotDeb00:16
BeldarBrant, You want peer review of the channel, give some details a little cause and effect, when installed details help.00:16
BrantWhen I type in username user and password user, it just gives me the command user@chrubuntu:~$00:16
eskrimaveryhappy it says tthat is used on windows 7, vista, ir XP00:17
dotDebeskrima have you tried PlayOnLinux?  It is a frontend that could simplify things for you00:17
veryhappydid you set this up in wineconfig?00:17
BrantWhen I type in install ubuntu-desktop gave me: E: failed to fetch (website) Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'00:17
eskrimadotdeb really let me see what is that00:17
veryhappyeskrima: did you set this up in wineconfig?00:17
dotDebeskrima apt-get install playonlinux00:17
eskrimaveryhappy what is this.. sorry00:18
Beldareskrima, Not everything windows works on wine, have you checked for any compatibility with wine?00:18
Brantapt-get update gives me00:18
BrantE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?00:18
veryhappydotDeb: he can try that if that program is there but if it is don't there it wont help him anyway00:18
eskrimadotdeb thank you can you please really quick guide me tru terminal steps00:18
veryhappyeskrima: you need wineconfig to set some things up..00:18
eskrimabeldar noo... dont know how00:18
bazhangis this a wubi install eskrima00:18
dotDebbrant so you type your username and password into the GUI and then you get a command line?00:18
Brantyes00:18
eskrimabazhang what is wubi..?00:19
dotDebeskrima just type: sudo apt-get install playonlinux00:19
Brantand the password doesnt actually type anything, if that helps at all00:19
dotDebeskrima then type in your password00:19
bazhangeskrima, an ubuntu install done from within windows00:19
veryhappyeskrima: wubi means ubuntu is not really installed on your harddisk physically as far as i know00:19
Beldareskrima, The wine website has compatible info.00:19
dotDebbrant I am unclear as to what is happening exactly00:19
veryhappyeskrima: you can either install ubuntu in virtualbox if you still want to have it virtually or install it on your harddisk physically00:20
BrantWhen I launch ubuntu, it gives me a DOS/BIOS type page that says 'chrubuntu login' and 'Password'00:20
Brantwhen I type in user/user it gives me user@chrubuntu:~$00:21
dotDebveryhappy wubi isn't a virtual install, it just installs Ubuntu as if it were a program inside Windows afaik00:21
eskrimaveryhapp ooooo that is why. when i bought my laptop it was originally windows 8. then i reallized that my bios is completely new and doesnt like ubuntu. so i had a hard time installing ubuntu cd/and from the webiste. so finally i made it somehow so yea its probably not even istalled...00:21
veryhappyguys: need help with my keyboard... lenovo s205 (netbook) with gnome the keyboard work perfectly, since i changed to kde it sometimes pastes text while i'm writing randomly when i press the space key...00:21
eskrimaveryhappy its really hard to install it on my hard disk.. dont know why tho00:21
Beldaroh my wubi on a uefi00:21
dotDebbrant uhhhh what kind of install did you do?00:21
dotDebbrant ubuntu should open with a GUI username and password page00:21
veryhappydotDeb: ok, got that... never did it only installled it virtually or physically00:22
veryhappyeskrima: you have 2 or more pcs?00:22
Brantim on an Acer C720 chromebook, I did the curl -L -O http://goo.gl/9sgchs; sudo bash 9sgchs install prompt00:22
Brantyeah im never getting to a GUI :(00:22
eskrimayes00:22
dotDebveryhappy Wubi was my introduction to linux, I am very happy that it was there back then00:22
dotDebbrant did you ever try a live cd?00:22
eskrimadotdeb what after the installation... should i do someting like sudo apt-get update? :D00:23
dotDebeskrima no, if it's installed it's done00:23
veryhappyeskrima: whenever you get a problem type it in google search for it and if you don't find anything just come here00:23
dr_jklAHA00:23
BrantNo, chromebooks dont have CD drives00:23
dotDebeskrima just open playonlinux from unity00:23
dr_jklSUCCESS.00:23
dotDebbrant: live usb?00:23
fridaynexti'm trying to create the filesystem for the RAID5 array I've just created.  I'm using this calculator, but the settings are different for xfs (what I'm trying to do) than ext3 (what the calculator shows)00:23
fridaynexthttp://uclibc.org/~aldot/mkfs_stride.html00:23
* dotDeb has so many usb drives with various distros on them00:23
eskrimaveryhappy yeah that is what i did... i went to couple of forums for wine and windows issue but nothing concrete.. thank you for the time. sorry if is a petty issue00:23
BrantNope, from every guide on the internet it just says to get it from curl -L -O http://goo.gl/9sgchs; sudo bash 9sgchs00:24
dotDebeskrima did playonlinux open?00:24
eskrimadotdeb what is unity and how to open00:24
eskrimait just finished to install...00:24
fridaynextWhat is the 'stripe unit (su)' in xfs?00:24
veryhappyeskrima: wine could work for some programs but if that don't work better try playonlinux it really works well for most applications...00:24
dotDebbrant oh i just realized there's a separate distro for chromebooks00:24
dotDebeskrima open playonlinux like you'd open any other program00:25
eskrimaveryhappy thank you im trying to work with it now.. it just installed00:25
veryhappyeskrima: unity is a window manager00:25
dotDebeskrima or you can just type playonlinux into the terminal00:25
BeldardotDeb, Maybe you should take over it's support since there is none.00:25
Branti think the only one out is chrubuntu (which is what im using) and crouton, which i dont want to use because it runs inside chrome os00:25
eskrimadotdeb veryhappy i dont have installed unity....hmmmm00:25
dotDebwait so regular ubuntu doesn't run on chromebooks?00:25
dotDebeskrima you probably do00:25
eskrimadotdeb veryhappy i dont have installed unity....hmmmm. ok let me try opening it from my dashboard00:25
veryhappyeskrima: what did you have installed kde?00:25
dotDebeskrima what version of ubuntu?00:25
dotDebeskrima it doesn't matter anyways, just type playonlinux in the terminal00:26
Brantafaik it doesnt dotDeb00:26
dotDebbeldar uhh I wouldn't know what to do00:26
eskrimadotdebt 12.4 lts veryhappy i dont know what is kde00:26
dotDebbeldar too busy learning android development00:26
veryhappyeskrima: kde is a window manager too00:26
fridaynextis xfs 'stripe unit' the same as the ext RAID 'chunk size'?00:26
eskrimadotdeb just using it now.. it will guide me throu.. just a moment. will be back00:27
eskrimaoooh ok veryhappy00:27
veryhappydotDeb: http://developer.android.com/index.html there you go, quite easy just go your way through the training...00:27
dotDebveryhappy neither are window managers I believe00:27
dotDebveryhappy I am aware00:27
dotDebeskrima ok, let me know when you're back00:27
eskrimadotdeb so it appears that the wine is getting configured while installing playonlinus.. is that how it works..togheter? or should i uninstall wine??00:28
veryhappydotDeb: what does he want to do know, eskrima?00:28
dotDebveryhappy they are graphical shells not window managers fyi00:28
dotDebeskrima no that's fine, playonlinux is a wine frontend00:28
dotDebeskrima just put the cd in and click install00:29
BeldardotDeb, The ubuntu community thanks you,  ;)00:29
dotDebbeldar :D for?00:29
BeldardotDeb, Being to busy.00:29
veryhappydotDeb: look in wikipedia before you try telling me something new... :) i'm not new to linux...00:29
eskrimadotdeb ok so the one program i installed before playonlinux and is already there.. should i remove it and install all over again? or just install again without removing the first one?00:29
veryhappydotDeb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager00:29
dotDebbeldar lol00:29
dotDebveryhappy that article lists unity and plasma desktop as graphical shells, not window managers00:30
eskrimadotdeb so anytime i want to open the installed program i just click it normally? or i have to go throu playonlinux?00:30
veryhappyok unity not, but i didn't write plasma desktop i wrote kde... and unity ok i was mistaken on that one sorry00:31
dotDebveryhappy KDE is a desktop environment not a window manager :P00:31
veryhappywhy is has been listed as window manager?00:32
OERIASUnity is the partial reason why a ton of people are abandoning this comercialised distro!00:32
Branthas anyone installed chrubuntu on a chrombook acer c720?00:32
veryhappywell ok, let's forget about this, thank you for the information anyway00:32
hakrlol00:32
* hakr lurks00:32
dotDebeskrima I think you go through playonlinux, not entirely certain though00:32
dotDebveryhappy sure thing, np00:32
veryhappywill please someone help me with my netbook? i got a lenovo s205 netbook, i used gnome before and everything worked fine but since using kde my keyboard randomly pastes contents i would only paste when i hit ctrl-v but with my space key?00:33
noobatronprogrammer uses cheesepuffs00:35
noobatronit is super effective00:35
ramkamxhello00:35
Beldarmmmmm carbo loading00:35
noobatronheh furnet is still around00:35
noobatronthis is an active irc00:35
noobatron:)00:35
ramkamxi'm getting some troubles with virtual hosts00:35
dotDebeskrima did it work?00:36
veryhappydo you guys know when you type /etc/init.d/service restart and forget the s then it sounds like retard? :D lmao00:36
eskrimadotdebt sorry just a minute... im trying to understand how to use playonlinux thingy00:36
ramkamxgot a first vhost configured in /etc/apache/sites-xxx and it works servername foo.com & www.foo.com00:37
ramkamxand when i put the second conf file for another host blog.foo.com it doesnt work00:37
ramkamxany clue ?00:37
ramkamxis it the ServerName foo.com that is messing things up ?00:37
noobatronTest00:39
noobatronreturnsTesting00:40
veryhappynoobatron Test what?00:40
dotDebTest successful00:40
noobatron:)00:40
veryhappylol00:40
dotDebveryhappy: testing his ability to send to the channel I assume00:40
veryhappyok00:40
noobatronreturnsYes00:40
veryhappydotDeb: you have some idea? since using kde instead of gnome my space key pastes content randomly instead of ctrl-v that pastes content only when i hit it?00:41
dotDebveryhappy your space key is pasting stuff? 0.000:41
veryhappyyep00:41
ramkamxany1 can help me with apache / Virtual hosts ?00:41
dotDebveryhappy no idea00:42
veryhappyramkamx: you really want to use apache? you can also look for the light nginx, and look if you like that more...00:42
dotDebveryhappy have you goolged it?00:42
veryhappydotDeb: yea but no items like like that showed up00:42
dotDebno idea00:43
dotDebsorry00:43
ramkamxveryhappy: i'll do it later, but for now i'm just trying to setup something without spending too much time on discovering new stuff00:43
veryhappyramkamx: ok... well it's quite simple you copy the default file and adapt the new file to your needs and activate that file as a new virtual host...00:43
ramkamxveryhappy: yep, did that. It works for a first vhost, and fails for the second00:44
ramkamxfor the second it shows nothing00:44
ramkamxso i probably missed a subtility somewhere :-)00:44
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veryhappythe heck?00:45
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ramkamxcould putting ServerName foo.com and ServerAlias www.foo.com  prevent having a second virtual host called say blog.foo.com ?00:45
veryhappyLINDA NO SPAM00:45
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ramkamxkick ...00:46
veryhappycould someone please kick linda_00:46
bctrainersThey were removed.00:46
veryhappygood.00:46
ramkamx:-)00:46
veryhappyramkamx: well did you activate the new vhost with a2ensite?00:47
ramkamxyeah, almost did it manually with ln -s00:47
ramkamxsame same no ?00:47
eskrimadotdeb doesnt work00:47
veryhappyi think it works differently with apache200:47
eskrimai can only see pdf files and not the installation program00:48
dotDebeskrima care to elaborate?00:48
noobatronis Ubuntu better than Windows for operating system00:48
ramkamxworked for the first one. but ok, i'll trash the ln -s and use a2ensite00:48
noobatronIf so, why?00:48
dotDebnoobatron yes00:48
ramkamx1sec00:48
dotDebnoobatron where should I begin?00:48
eskrimadodebt cant seem to open the program...or dont know how00:48
Beldarnoobatron, This is ubuntu support not chat and thst is offtopic in any ubuntu channel.00:48
dotDebnoobatron it is better in just about every way besides compatiblity with the most recent games, and even that is improving00:48
dotDebyea we should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like00:48
BeldardotDeb, Don;t reply to thta00:49
veryhappyeskrima: you should just open playonlinux and then it should automatically install your game00:49
Beldarthat*00:49
eskrimadotdebit veryhappy it didnt automaticly00:49
dotDebeskrima did the install work?00:49
ramkamxveryhappy: same problem00:49
dotDebbeldar why not?00:49
ramkamxand i dont see anything in error.log00:49
veryhappyramkamx: hold on...00:50
eskrimadotdeb veryhappy i opened playonlinux and it just stayed there empty.. didnt brought up nothing. than i wen to click install on the button and i found my cd program . installed. created desktop icon still doesnt work. when i click it doesnt open and load up00:50
eskrimadotdeb the install worked buti cant use it...00:50
veryhappyramkamx: which version? 14.04?00:51
ramkamxyep00:51
dotDebeskrima so there were no errors on install?00:51
eskrimadotdeb it went fine with no problem the installation but i cant access it. bummer00:51
eskrima\yes00:51
dotDebeskrima what happens when you run it from within playonlinux?00:51
noobatronDoes Ubuntu work with Lua00:52
eskrimai cant.. beacause it is just showing again the install.exe not the real installed operation file00:52
veryhappyramkamx: did you first create your directory structure?00:52
eskrimadotdeb if i run it from playonlinux will install again all over not run00:52
ramkamxveryhappy: yep, it's there, and chowned to www-data00:52
dotDebeskrima you need to run it not click install00:53
veryhappyramkamx: good. next step permissions are set, like you wrote it...did you set up an example site?00:53
ramkamxveryhappy: i've cloned the content of the first site with cp -r00:53
eskrimadotdeb the button run it doesnt execute no actions just can click on it all day long..00:53
ramkamxwordpress ...00:53
veryhappyramkamx: should work too..00:53
ramkamxhopefully :-)00:54
veryhappyveryhappy: you can chase me with wordpress :P00:54
dotDebeskrima if run does nothing then I don't think it's going to work.  what are you trying to install anyways?00:54
ramkamxchase you ? :-)00:54
Psil0Cybinhey guys i am using kernel 3.2.0-67 on ubuntu 12.04.400:54
Psil0Cybinwhat kernel should i have00:54
Psil0Cybinwithout upgrading the whole distro?00:54
Psil0Cybinis that one still right or am i out of date/00:54
sergio-br2Hi, someone having problem with high processing of firefox?00:55
veryhappyramkamx: did you restart or reload apache2?00:55
sergio-br2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/134140500:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1341405 in firefox (Ubuntu) "High usage of CPU in Firefox" [Undecided,New]00:55
ramkamxof course, tried both00:55
usr13Psil0Cybin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade #And see....00:55
sergio-br2270% of CPU00:55
eskrimadotdeb it is a cd for my exam prep course which in windows should be autoplay after installation. this folder contains pdf and prep course and exam.. can only see pdf files.. the rest is dead00:55
Psil0Cybini did all upgrades, slash udates usr1300:55
sergio-br2burn as hell00:55
Psil0Cybinso that means i am fine00:55
Psil0Cybin?00:55
Psil0Cybinwould it inform me if i need to upgrade anything manually?00:56
joseluis64It is normal that Xorg is using right now 122.6 MB of RAM?00:56
eskrimadotdeb how can i run a cd program form terminal00:56
Psil0Cybinit will constantly do it automatically?00:56
usr13Psil0Cybin: Correct.00:56
Psil0Cybinsomeone said before i was using an outdated kernel00:56
Psil0Cybinand had to upgrade00:56
usr13Psil0Cybin: Not automatically...00:56
Psil0Cybinbut running those commands said i was up to date00:56
Psil0Cybini am still using percise00:56
Beldarsergio-br2, Have you tried a restart without addons and checked the individually?00:56
Psil0Cybinusr13, that is fine right?00:56
usr13Psil0Cybin: For 12.04 it is not an outdated kernel.00:56
Beldarthem*00:56
veryhappyeskrima: you can but only if it supports that.00:56
sergio-br2yeah Beldar00:56
Psil0Cybinprecise*00:56
usr13Psil0Cybin: Yes00:57
Psil0Cybinokay good00:57
Psil0Cybinty00:57
sergio-br2Beldar, try this site: High usage of CPU in Firefox00:57
usr13Psil0Cybin: NP00:57
eskrimadotdeb i think that playonlinux is not even asking me to select my cd.... not even a wizard00:57
Beldarsergio-br2, Checked each addon individually00:57
sergio-br2this trigger something in firefox00:57
eskrimaoh00:57
sergio-br2Beldar, I disable all addon00:57
veryhappyeskrima: how new are you to linux btw?00:57
Beldarthat is not a site link sergio-br200:57
sergio-br2ah00:58
sergio-br2sorry00:58
sergio-br2http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/13/israeli-troops-clash-with-hamas-as-gaza-death-toll-continues-to-spiral00:58
Wughas anyone had any luck getting ubuntu to recognize and use 2 nvidia graphics cards without having to manually configure everything in xorg.conf00:58
eskrimaveryhappy kind of new. but i know my way around. its just with the windows i have problem using it here. not all programs tho. i know some commands on terminal but that is it00:58
dotDebeskrima what exe are you selecting to do the install? and what are you installing?00:58
joseluis64Wug I think not...00:58
dotDeboh exam prep course00:59
dotDebjust saw00:59
eskrimadotdeb setup.exe :)00:59
Wugjoseluis64: well that's really unfortunate00:59
dotDebeskrima ok that's good00:59
joseluis64Wug I know...00:59
Beldarsergio-br2, You bug is a month old and has no answers or confirmation.00:59
dotDebeskrima dunno what to tell you00:59
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eskrimadotdeb its funny but all installation went well and now i just dont nkow how to open it.. crayz00:59
joseluis64Wug So you're using the nvidi drivers rith?00:59
veryhappyeskrima: well you will have to figure some things out for you at the beginning everybody has to... but you'll get the hang of it the more you use it...00:59
Beldar1/2 a month00:59
joseluis64*right?01:00
sergio-br2Beldar, yeah, but i can reproduce the problem yet01:00
ramkamxveryhappy: ive even merged the two files into one, and i have the same issue01:00
dotDebeskrima so literally nothing happens when you click on run?01:00
eskrimadotdeb yes i promise01:00
Beldarsergio-br2, So?01:00
zacwallstrying to connect a nook 1.7.0 to xubuntu 13.04 and it doesn't recognize nook as a device.01:00
veryhappyramkamx: ... i got here the instructions for apache2 new virtualhosts on 14.04 should i send it to you that you can try it out alone?01:00
sergio-br2So, it's a bug :)01:00
dotDebeskrima is there a "log" option in one of the menu items?01:01
zacwallswhat do you suggest i do?01:01
Beldarsergio-br2, Not without an answer or any confirmation officially.01:01
joseluis64someone uses the nvidia driver here?01:01
sergio-br2Beldar, you can test in your hardware?01:01
ramkamxveryhappy: isn't apache independant from the disto version ?01:01
veryhappyjoseluis64: me01:01
ramkamxveryhappy: bu yeah01:01
Beldarsergio-br2, Firefox is fine here.01:01
daftykinsjoseluis64: asking tha actual question would be a good move01:01
sergio-br2hum01:01
veryhappyramkamx: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts01:01
joseluis64veryhappy how many RAM it uses Xorg in your computer?01:01
sergio-br2I will try in other hardware then01:02
ramkamxveryhappy: yeah read that already01:02
veryhappyramkamx: ok...01:02
ramkamxveryhappy: haven't seen anything insconsistent in what i've done01:02
ramkamxmystery01:02
Wugjoseluis64: yes01:02
Beldarsergio-br2, I would start a new user and set it up again.01:02
joseluis64daftykins It is normal that Xorg is using 122.6 MB of RAM after... half hour?01:02
WugI have a quadro card and a 750Ti01:02
sergio-br2Guest Account?01:02
eskrimadotdeb no.. im trying something on configure.. and one is to give me local script. but dont know what to type into01:02
funhey folks01:02
Wugthey both work if installed individually, but not togethe01:02
Beldarsergio-br2, No a new firefox user01:02
veryhappyjoseluis64: do i get that out with ps -ax or top or cat /proc/meminfo?01:03
daftykinsjoseluis64: no idea01:03
sergio-br2you mean, delete the folder config of firefox?01:03
Beldarsergio-br2, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles01:03
sergio-br2ok01:03
joseluis64veryhappy I'm using KDE's krunner01:03
ramkamxveryhappy: something weird, maybe it's the key - i've put for the first ServerName www.foo.com (instead of foo.com)01:03
veryhappyjoseluis64: ok hold on01:03
funhow I can create QCOW2 disk image of current ubuntu box/01:03
HexagonHas anyone read all of the ubutnu chat logs, out of curiosity?01:03
ramkamxveryhappy: but i still can read http://foo.com01:03
Beldarsergio-br2, If you run it as saving everything it will get like this after a time, I would have a no save but for passwords.01:04
ramkamxveryhappy: is there an instruction that "autofixes the missing www" that could be messing things up ?01:04
funanyone?01:04
funhehe01:04
veryhappyramkamx: shouldn't be there afaik01:04
Beldar!patience | fun01:04
ubottufun: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/01:04
funty01:04
fun:)01:04
Bashing-omWug: Last I checked - a few months back - only Nvidia had a driver for that cutting edge card.01:05
ramkamxveryhappy: then i should be seeing nothing when i go to http://foo.cpom01:05
veryhappyramkamx: but afaik do all browsers insert www. automatically when you type the address without www.01:05
veryhappyramkamx: that's the browser that inserts www.01:05
Wugveryhappy: its not the browser that's doing it01:05
ramkamxveryhappy: that's browser stuff. ok let bypass it i'll try curling01:05
veryhappyWug: ok... what does do it?01:06
Wugthe browser will connect to any domain name you tell it to. if the website wants to redirect you to another site it will use a 30201:06
ProxyLinuxEasyAlgum br?01:06
eskrimadotdeb in one of the opttions i can run and.exe mayube willl work. just have to find where did it save it01:06
ramkamxveryhappy: curl behaves the same than the browser01:06
Wug(many will use this sort of redirect to send you to www.)01:07
ramkamxand cant resolve the second hostname blog.foo.com01:07
Bashing-omWug: Just caufgt up that you are running hybrid graphics to compound the situation. Hybrid = BumbleBee or Primus-prime ... yes ?01:07
TJ-veryhappy: Some sites will use a mod_rewrite or redirect 302 to the www. FQDN... some browser, if they can't find a server on http://domain.com/ with try http://www.domain.com/01:07
veryhappyWug: thanks for the new information :)01:07
WugBashing-om: not hybrid, I have 2 discrete graphics cards and I want to use them both at once01:07
veryhappyTJ-: is that option not also available in apache2? mod_rewrite?01:07
WugI heartell that you can make it work with large amounts of yucky xorg.conf editing01:08
TJ-veryhappy: that was what I referred to :)01:08
Wugcan we please just kill that file completely01:08
Bashing-omwug// OH .. teach me not to read ... sorry, no idea how to get both working at same time.01:08
Wugit sucks and everyone hates it01:08
TJ-Wug: Are both GPUs supported by the current nvidia driver?01:08
WugTJ-: both work if installed individually01:08
funhttps://cloud.runabove.com/horizon/project/images/ any idea how fast is QCOW2 I/O?01:08
Wugso im going to call it "probably"01:08
veryhappyjoseluis64: i got here an irq/47-nvidia01:08
joseluis64veryhappy what is that?01:09
TJ-Wug: What happens when you connect them at the same time? can you pastebin the "/var/log/dmesg" that results from that? My bet is the PCI bridge doesn't have a large enough window and can't assign the BARs01:09
veryhappyjoseluis64: probably my nvidia driver.. hold on01:09
TJ-Wug: You may have one of those logs archived as a dmesg.X.gz which you can locate and send, you'll need to use zcat to decompress them01:10
TJ-Wug: "zcat /var/log/dmesg*.gz | grep 'NVRM.*BAR' will help you discover if one of them has captured a failed BAR allocation01:10
WugTJ-: dmesg looks very boring, only the usual stuff about network config and filesystem mounting01:11
ramkamxveryhappy: think i got it, it's not apache, it's my zone settings at godaddy ...01:11
ramkamxcant remember, what's the CNAME to redirect all that is not defined to @ ?01:11
TJ-Wug: if it failed you'd see something like this: "[   13.675903] NVRM: BAR0 is 0M @ 0x0 (PCI:0000:0f:00.0)"01:11
Wugnothing like that01:11
ax562hello01:11
Wugboth devices are shown in lspci01:12
TJ-Wug: You've checked all the compressed dmesg files with that command?01:12
TJ-Wug: OK ... "sudo lspci -knnvvv | pastebinit"01:12
WugI'm only looking in dmesg | less01:12
Wuggive me a minute to check past boots01:12
veryhappyramkamx: there you go :)01:12
ax562I was wondering if anyone could recommend the easiest way to resize my ubuntu filesystem partition on a dual boot system?01:12
veryhappyax562: gparted.01:13
WugTJ-: nothing in other dmesgs01:13
veryhappyax562: be careful you could mess your system up...01:13
ax562I tried using gparted from a boot disk but it wouldn't work and stated if I did so I would ruin my system01:13
ax562veryhappy: that's the last thing I want to do01:13
ramkamxveryhappy - cant remeber - in the CNAM can i use "*" for the host alias so that it covers all ?01:14
joseluis64ax562 that depends on the partition table of your hd01:14
BSODInTheSkyWelcome, veryhappy!01:14
veryhappyax562: make sure you are not using gparted on your system it will block actions01:14
ramkamxs/CNAM/CNAME/g01:14
Bashing-omax562: Dual booting with Windows ?01:14
daftykinsramkamx: last i checked this wasn't #godaddysupport01:14
ax562bashing-om: yes with windows 8.101:14
WugTJ-: do you only care about the VGA devices? or do you really want to see all of the rest of the gobbledegook01:14
TJ-Wug: just the VGA01:14
ax562would parted work?01:15
TJ-Wug: but with pastebinit it's easier just to send the lot in one command01:15
veryhappyBSODInTheSky: thanks how do i deserve this nice welcoming?01:15
ax562would I have to reconfigure grub before/after?01:15
ProfessorKaos64Does anyone know where I can find FreeDO (3DO emulator" for linux? I've seen it all over, but all I find are dead links01:15
ramkamxdaftykins: yeah ok, thx01:15
WugTJ-: I'm irc-ing on one computer while fixing the other01:15
BSODInTheSkyType in "/msg <username> <message>"01:15
TJ-Wug: Ahhh, I see01:15
Wugso hang on a second there is some overhead when marshalling information01:15
TJ-Wug: if the other PC has network connectivity, the command I gave you will send the info to pastebin easily01:16
BSODInTheSkyveryhappy: Type in "/msg <username> <message>"01:16
veryhappyBSODInTheSky: i know what it does... why should I?01:16
Bashing-omax562: Carefull ! Win8 = UEFI, advise I have seen is to defrag Windows twice, use Windows to shrink a partition, in windows run 'ckkdsk" twice, reboot twice, and then see what the ubuntu installer will do with the "unallocated" space .01:16
WugTJ-: not long enough to bother pastebinning01:17
Wug02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108GL [Quadro 600] [10de:0df8] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])01:17
Wug03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] [10de:1380] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])01:17
BSODInTheSkyBSODInTheSky: I'm away now. Sorry.01:17
BSODInTheSkyveryhappy: I'm away now. Sorry.01:17
veryhappyax562: you only have to look out if you change the start sectors of grub then you have to reconfigure it...01:17
ax562Bashing-om: I already used gparted to shrink windows partition but I haven't tried to boot it up yet :/01:17
WugI have no xorg.conf right now, and without one the behavior I get is to use only the first card01:17
Xentinelcan someone help me set the nice level for a process through an Upstart script?01:18
cuddylierHi01:18
veryhappyBSODInTheSky: please stop this shit now, period!01:18
TJ-Wug: That's no use to me, I gave you the command I need you to run01:18
cuddylierAnyone know a script I could use to check the disk space usage for different directories and then send an email report?01:18
BSODInTheSkyveryhappy: But I am busy. Don't talk to me.01:18
veryhappycuddylier: hi, how can we hep you01:18
ax562veryhappy:  why didn't gparted let me partition?01:18
TJ-Wug: "sudo lspci -knnvvv | pastebinit"01:18
veryhappycan please kick someone bsod?01:18
IdleOneBSODInTheSky: Turn that off now please01:18
WugTJ-: I asked you if you needed to see only the vga bits, and you said yes01:18
patrick_j #windows01:19
patrick_oops01:19
BSODInTheSkyIdleOnie: I HAVE TO TAKE A P*SS AND A SH*T01:19
TJ-Wug: but *all* the info about each VGA device :)01:19
Bashing-omax562: Fingers crossed, Windows tools to work on the Windows partitions. But, I am aware some have had good results usiong GParted on the Windows partition.// In windows, run 'ckkdsk" . // Be aware, I am not Windows literate !//01:19
ax562veryhappy: were are the start sectors of grub located?01:19
veryhappyax562: if you don't change it with a boot disk then it won't work...01:19
veryhappyax562: do you have set up a boot partition?01:19
ax562veryhappy: not sure.  I have grub setup but not sure if that automatically creates a boot partition.01:20
veryhappyax562: nope it don't do it automatically...01:21
ramkamxveryhappy - thanks01:21
veryhappyramkamx: no problem...01:22
veryhappyax562: please open a terminal and type sudo fdisk /dev/sda (if that is your harddisk) and hit enter01:22
WugTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7929016/01:23
Wugyou want 02:00.001:23
Wugand 03:00.001:23
veryhappyax562: how many partitions are there listed?01:23
ax562veryhappy: it didn't work01:24
ax562how can I verify /dev/xxx01:24
veryhappyax562: first tell me if you have the command fdisk supported by your system...01:25
TJ-Wug: which release of Ubuntu is it, and which kernel version ("lsb_release -r && uname -r") ?01:25
ax562i do01:25
Wug14.04 and 3.13.0-3201:25
ax562I'm actually booting up gparted.  it should tell me01:25
Wugx6401:25
ax562I have sda1-501:26
veryhappyok, then list on here what you got i.e.: sda1-windows, sda2-/, sda3-swap, sda4-home01:27
ax562sda1 = dell utility, sda2 = ntfs (windows 8.1), sda3 = extended, sda4 = swap, sda5 = ext4 (ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit)01:28
TJ-Wug: OK, now lets find out which nvidia driver version you have: "dpkg -l 'nvidia*' | grep ^ii "01:29
veryhappyax562: very good, thanks...01:29
andrewi don't see network-manager in /etc/init.d, but i see it is running from ps aux | grep network-manager... is it somehow bundled within /etc/init.d/networking?01:29
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veryhappyandrew: networking exists alone from network-manager...01:30
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daftykinsthatguy: can you stop the renames? :P01:30
ernestwsnooksorry... friends computer.01:30
veryhappyax562: so you good sda5 ubuntu partition... you installed grub into the mbr?01:30
WugTJ-: looks to be 30401:31
bornagainI deleted windows from the terminal using os uninstaller. Now it says no bootable devices01:31
Wugwhich seems like an old one iirc01:31
TJ-Wug: The good news is both devices are have their IOMEM correctly mapped... the issue is that the nvidia driver isn't managing the "GTX 750 Ti" for which you need at least nvidia version 334.2101:31
ernestwsnooki don't see network-manager in /etc/init.d, but it is running.01:31
Bashing-omax562: veryhappy :; Win8=UEFI=GPT partitioning, and unless the hard disk has been repartitoned to "legacy" there should be no 'extended' partition.( and I am not even sure that Win 8 will boot non-UEFI ).01:31
ernestwsnooki need to stop it so i manually set the ip of the nic to do something with a router..01:32
Wugit's weird that it works if I remove the other card.01:32
TJ-Wug: I have 337 here, from the Ubuntu Xorg Edger's PPA01:32
TJ-Wug: Probably because it is the primary device, the VESA driver handles it01:32
daftykinsernestwsnook: init scripts are old school, use the service x stop method01:32
ax562veryhappy: I believe so.  Originally I just shrank my windows partition and installed ubuntu on the ext4 partition.  Ubuntu automatically setup grub.01:33
veryhappyBashing-om: might be, but he just wants to resize his ubuntu partition as far as i understood.01:33
Wugeew init scripts01:33
Wugbleck the repos only go up to  33101:33
TJ-Wug: see https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty01:33
Bashing-omveryhappy: ax562 :: Might suggest a close look at the partitoning .. GPT partitioning does not support or need a 'extended' partition.01:34
TJ-Wug: After adding that PPA and doing "sudo apt-get update" you can install the 340 driver with "sudo apt-get install nvidia-340"01:34
ax562Bashing-om: you are starting to worry me :/01:34
Bashing-omax562: Yeah .. need to get this right.01:35
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ax562Bashing-om: I know.  I'm worried that I might have messed up my windows partition.01:36
ax562I hope not though and don't think so. hope so.01:36
* Wug pushes the "give it a whirl" button01:37
Bashing-omax562: That is a possibility ( Windows tools for Windows partitions !) .. at this time I do suggest ya boot Windows and run 'ckkdsk' and couple of times and make sure Windows is still in a happy state.01:37
ax562ok.  I'll be back.hopefully01:38
veryhappyBashing-om: you seem to know more about that....01:38
veryhappyax562: hope i could help01:38
Bashing-omveryhappy: Well, I been around a while, seen a lot of problems, and have paid some atttention to what UEFI is growing into .01:39
veryhappyBashing-om: i just didn't want to offend you because you know more about that... i might know more about other topics, right? there's no need to be offending...01:41
veryhappy:D01:41
Bashing-omveryhappy: Oh me .. The last thing I would ever want is to offend .. Not at all my desire. We are working a problem is all .. and I offer my advise too.01:42
veryhappyBashing-om: of course we do...01:42
veryhappy;)01:42
veryhappyBashing-om: and as long everybody is fair and let someone else also write what he knows everything stays fair play :)01:43
veryhappyBashing-om: probably you also can tell me why my netbook pastes randomly text with my space key since i use kde? didn't happen before with gnome...01:43
WugTJ-: a little finagling after installing the updated driver made it work01:44
Bashing-omveryhappy: Right on ! .. believe me I KNOW there is more I do not know than what I do know .. I am always in the process of learnong.01:44
WugI love when its something simple01:44
TJ-Wug :)01:44
TJ-Wug: I have 3 GPUs and 6 monitors here; I'm used to that stuff :)01:44
samthewildoneTJ-, what kinda of work you do ?01:45
samthewildoneI suppose 3D animation / design01:45
TJ-samfty: hack software01:45
Bashing-omveryhappy: I have not touched the wonderful KDE since 9.04 release // but I would look into how KDE maps the keys.01:45
TJ-opos, samthewildone: hack software01:45
Wugwell I say "work"01:45
Wugbut it doesn't seem to actually make it to a desktop env when I login01:46
veryhappyBashing-om: well it randomly happens... that should only paste content when i hit ctrl-v and not randomly with my space key, right?01:46
TJ-Wug: check "/var/log/Xorg.o.log" for any X server problems01:46
TJ-Wug: check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for any X server problems01:46
Wugno errors...01:47
TJ-Wug: try logging in as Guest01:47
Wugno dice01:49
Wugcan't even get a terminal open with ctrl+alt+t like I usually can when the window manager is being retarded01:50
TJ-Wug: check "$HOME/.xsession-errors"01:50
veryhappyWug: that don't work in kde01:50
veryhappyWug: unfortunately01:50
Bashing-omveryhappy: That is a fact on no randomness, I would be looking in the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log ( as the keyboard runs under xorg) and see what it might have to relate.01:51
ax562ok.  I'm in windoze01:53
ax562Bashing-om: verryhappy: I'm still alive in windoze01:54
Bashing-omax562: Excellent news ! ..back to your regularly skeduled helper, and I go back to lurking.01:54
ax562Bashing-om: verryhappy: so what are my options if any?  I already resized window 8.1 partition now I have empty hd space that I want to add to my linux partition.01:57
veryhappyBashing-om: what should that help with Xorg? it happens randomly.01:57
Bashing-omveryhappy: Well .. you are looking for an aberation in the log file when the copy/paste misfunctions ..01:58
veryhappyoh ok, got it01:59
veryhappywhere does Xorg have its log file?01:59
Bashing-omax562: veryhappy // At this point I want to see what the current partitoning is like. ax562, does the parted disk have a terminal interface cabability, can it access the ubuntu repository  ?02:00
veryhappyBashing-om: my current partitioning scheme?02:02
Bashing-omveryhappy: That file is located at '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' // Does KDE have a 'log file viewer"? - makes life easier .02:02
veryhappyok... i'll figure it out if it has..02:03
Bashing-omveryhappy: No on your partitioning .. I was redirecting us back to ax562 on that one .02:03
GuyThatNeedsHelpHello, today i started skype up tried to login and it gave me an error saying "Skype can't connect" so i thought it was my account was banned but couldnt login to my other did some research and found this post (http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&p=900548) telling me to install the debian package and when i tried to install the deb package though software-center i got an error "Conflicts with the installed package 'skype-bin:i386'"02:04
veryhappyBashing-om: ok, was just wondering ... ok kde has a log viewer02:04
Bashing-omax562: I am being dense here .. as you are installing ubuntu, you have a liveDVD(USB) ! .. all we need at this time to look at things directly so we know.02:05
daftykinsGuyThatNeedsHelp: yeah, we cannot condone that action. installing debian packages is unsupported, pretty sure Skype is unsupported directly too02:05
BeldarGuyThatNeedsHelp, why would you use the mint forums for ubuntu issues?02:05
GuyThatNeedsHelpBeldar: It was the only thing i found and since they say mint is based off of ubuntu i thought it would work02:06
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GuyThatNeedsHelpSo no more skype for ubuntu?02:06
Beldarworks fine here02:07
Beldarseems to be some issues today you're not the first here02:07
GuyThatNeedsHelpI tried sudo apt-get remove skype and uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it didnt work02:07
veryhappyGuyThatNeedsHelp: maybe that works for you, i'm not pretending it does: http://www.enqlu.com/2013/07/how-to-install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-13-04-or-linux-mint-15.html02:08
ragesithhello there, i have a question about modules - ive installed i8k and after install it works right out of the box but every reboot the module is not loaded automaticly! everytime i have to modprob i8k and then it works. How do i lod the module on start?02:08
veryhappyragesith: nano or vi /etc/modules, there you go.02:08
veryhappyragesith: of course to modify as root02:08
ragesithveryhappy, the problem is its in there02:09
veryhappyragesith: then i don't know either, sorry02:09
Bashing-omax562: Let's look. Boot up the liveDVD ( the install medium for ubuntu) -> try ubuntu -> terminal .. commands -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , udo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- pass the URL bak here to us, Do not be surprised if 'fdisk' screams and hollers, will not read a GPT disk, we will then install another tool to look.02:09
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BeldarGuyThatNeedsHelp, Apps in general have configs, purge rather than remove is what is used here in this instance, the skype release may not get support here is all.02:10
Bashing-omudo/sudo * !02:10
veryhappyax562: "udo" is a typo and means of course "sudo"02:10
ragesithhaha got it veryhappy youre the man :)02:10
veryhappy:D02:10
ax562Bashing-om: sorry, had to drop off the kids.02:10
veryhappyragesith: what was the problem02:10
ragesithwithout you i wouldnt have seen my typo02:10
ragesithik8 instead of i8k :)02:11
veryhappyha02:11
veryhappythere you go02:11
veryhappyglad i could help02:11
ragesithim gonna repport to check now - thanks02:11
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: the gparted disk does have terminal but I'm not sure if i can access any repo (not sure if i have internet capabilities).02:12
bornagainCan someone please help me. I deleted windows and now when i start the computer it says no bootable device02:12
mtsnacksDon't mind me, I'm just lurking.02:12
Beldarbornagain, You have ubuntu installed?02:13
bornagainYes02:13
Bashing-omax562: One way to find out -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .. see what happens.02:13
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: should I use gparted live disk or ubuntu?02:14
veryhappybornagain: you need rescue tools for your ubuntu i guess...02:14
Beldarbornagain, Note we use nicks to address each other. Was this a wubi install?02:14
veryhappygparted live disk02:14
zacwallshow do i access administrator on a user through terminal i need updates02:14
zacwallsi still boot 13.0402:14
veryhappygksu/gksudo command02:14
bornagainBeldar i just downloaded it and installed from pc02:14
daftykinszacwalls: it'd be quicker for you to backup and clean install02:14
zacwallsokay02:14
Beldarzacwalls, 13.04 is end of life02:15
veryhappyzacwalls: gksu/gksudo command02:15
GuyThatNeedsHelpDoes anyone know what the applications name is for software & updates? i cant search for it since im not on unity02:15
zacwallsi cant update02:15
daftykinsveryhappy: what you are saying is wrong02:15
Beldarbornagain, Installed from windows?02:15
ax562veryhappy: Bashing-om: I think Bashing-om wanted to use ubuntu live?02:15
Bashing-omax562: As we have the liveDVD of ubuntu .. and that is the tool that I am familiar with .. let's go with booting up ubuntu .02:15
veryhappydaftykins: hey hey daftykins, what's wrong?02:15
bornagainBeldar yes installed from windows02:15
veryhappyax562: live means a boot disk02:15
daftykinsveryhappy: you don't run a terminal program as root02:15
Beldarbornagain, When you wiped windows you wiped ubuntu it was inside it.02:16
veryhappydaftykins: sorry my fault...02:16
bornagainO no02:16
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I will reboot using ubuntu live.  I will switch to phone interface. brb.02:16
bornagainBeldar what can i do?02:16
veryhappydaftykins: am i accused using root now on a terminal :D02:16
Beldarbornagain, Install ubuntu on the HD, a recovery is pretty tedious and who knows what you would get.02:17
Beldarbornagain, NO backups?02:18
daftykinsveryhappy: gksu/gksudo is used to run a graphical program as root... so if you ran gnome-terminal or something with that, you'd not end up with what the user wanted :) That's all02:19
daftykinsbornagain: just to confirm, if Beldar doesn't mind my interjection... you installed ubuntu using WUBI from inside Windows?02:20
veryhappydaftykins: ok...02:20
Beldarbornagain, Easiest way to confirm all this is to get a live ubuntu download to run a few commands.02:22
bornagainDhow?02:23
sydneyOk,i installed lxde in ubuntu 14.04,and now i have no clue how t change the volume settings :-/02:23
bornagainBeldar how?02:23
Beldarbornagain, Download ubuntu fro it's website, burn the iso to dvd or usb and boot to the live desktop.02:24
Beldarfrom*02:24
ax562ok Im back02:24
sydneyDoes anyone have any advice?02:24
bornagainBeldar thank you02:24
joseluis64veryhappy if you're there I have now 180.2 MB of ram used by Xorg02:25
Beldarsydney, Yeah have some patience. ;)02:25
ax562back02:25
sydneyBeldar:  :P02:25
veryhappyjoseluis64: i'm here.02:25
ax562what should I do once I boot into ubuntu?02:25
sydneyI can change the output volume easily,but i cannot get my mic to work :-/02:25
joseluis64veryhappy thank you02:25
veryhappyjoseluis64: i just still haven't figured out how i can check the ram size of my nvidia driver02:26
Beldarax562, What is the end goal?02:26
Bashing-omax562: do: -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- and if result is positive, post back the resulting URL .02:26
zacwallshow do i do a clean install of 14,04?02:26
ax562Bashing-om: verryhappy: what should I boot into?02:26
sydneyzacwalls: boot to a live cd,and do a fresh install02:27
sydneyzacwalls: or a flash drive02:27
veryhappyax562: what have you done now?02:27
Beldarzacwalls, Boot a live iso burned to a dvd or usb and install02:27
ax562I'm assuming there should be a terminal option once I boot up right?02:27
Bashing-omax562: ubuntu live ( installer ) -> try ubuntu .02:27
ax562ok got it.  I know the option.02:28
veryhappyok02:28
veryhappyjoseluis64: i want to help you if you can tell me a way how to find a possibility02:28
veryhappyjoseluis64: you have krunner?02:28
zacwallsi know have a live disk but i do have a usb02:29
zacwallsmaby02:29
TJ-veryhappy: "awk '/^nvidia/{print $1, "using", $2, "bytes"}' /proc/modules "02:29
Beldarzacwalls, disc or usb woeks02:29
Beldarworks*02:29
veryhappyjoseluis64: isn't that just the panel that lets you search applications02:29
zacwallscan i use a cd-r?02:31
Beldarzacwalls, Ubuntu needs a dvd it's to big for a cdd02:32
Beldarcd*02:32
zacwallsokay02:32
zacwallsshould i use 32 or 64 bit02:33
Beldarzacwalls, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop02:33
veryhappyjoseluis64: found it: Total Memory: 1024 MB, Total Dedicated Memory: 1024 MB, Used Dedicated Memory: 31 MB (3%)02:34
veryhappythanks TJ02:35
ax562Bashing-om: verryhappy:I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" but I got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit02:36
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy:I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" but I got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit02:36
veryhappyax562: already tried sudo apt-get update -y?02:37
veryhappyax562: do you have network?02:37
ax562yes02:37
ax562that is working02:38
veryhappygood ;)02:38
veryhappythen do apt-get update -y02:38
Bashing-omax562: Humm .. "Filename: pool/main/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_1.4-3_all.deb" it is there in the 'main' repository .. check your spelling ( copy and paste ).02:38
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: sudo apt-get update -y is working.  pastebinit didn't work originally02:39
Bashing-omax562: ok, As I live and learn !02:40
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm on two different machinces02:40
ax562pastebinit still not working :?02:40
veryhappyax562: does the computer we work on also have network?02:40
veryhappyax562: pastebinit just works with a piped command02:40
veryhappyi.e. command | pastebinit02:40
ax562both have network02:41
veryhappyi just don't know what Bashing-om wants you to send for data02:41
joseluis64veryhappy i'm here, how did you found that information?02:41
Beldarax562, This an install or the live?02:41
ax562hold on let me try installing irssi02:41
veryhappyi looked into  nvidia-settings02:42
ax562that works02:42
veryhappyax562: what do you want to use irssi for?02:42
veryhappyok...02:42
ax562just to check and maybe just to be on one machine02:42
veryhappyokk02:42
ax562brb02:42
veryhappyok02:43
BeldarBashing-om, You like a good torture. ;)02:43
Bashing-omBeldar: I take beatings well, do I not ?02:43
joseluis64veryhappy: I have Total Memory: 512 MB Total Dedicated Memory: 256 MB Used Dedicated Memory: 115 MB (45%)02:43
Beldaror have the patience for anyway02:43
Beldaryes02:44
ax562back02:44
veryhappyjoseluis64: well then your system uses much dedicated memory and you're nearly at the limit...02:44
ax562yeah I'm on irssi with out a hitch but pastebinit didn't work :/02:44
veryhappyax562: as i wrote you before pastebinit alone doesn't work02:45
ax562oh ok.02:45
veryhappyax562: you need to pipe a command to it02:45
ax562how can I do that?02:45
Bashing-omBeldar: The sad part is I am going to see what the partitioning is like for ax5 - scream and holler why he did not trust ubiguity to do the easy install of ubuntu .. then I am going to holler for help to install ubuntu manually !02:45
veryhappyi.e. dmesg | pastebinit02:45
joseluis64so, where is the problem, the driver? xorg? kde?02:46
joseluis64both?02:46
BeldarBashing-om, I wont touch that uefi stuff, basically I do what I know, which is well....limited.02:46
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: so what is the next step?02:46
joseluis64plasma-desktop even uses a lot 137.1 Mb of RAM02:46
veryhappyjoseluis64: the first message you wrote to me was just that you wanted to know how much memory i have, what do you want to do now02:46
veryhappyjoseluis64: yea plasma uses much memory02:47
Bashing-omax562: Now in terminal -> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit < - .. it will return a URL like so " http://paste.ubuntu.com/7929533/" .. post your URL back here so we can see what that command's output is.02:47
joseluis64veryhappy If it is normal tha xogr uses hundreds MB of RAM02:47
joseluis64*that xorg02:47
veryhappyjoseluis64: you can tweak it not to use much ram if you avoid special 3d effects02:48
ax562ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit02:48
ax562The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:02:48
ax562sudo apt-get install pastebinit02:48
ax562You will have to enable the component called 'universe'02:48
joseluis64I have nothing open, just the desktop, and I have like 900 MB of RAM02:48
veryhappyax562: !pastebin02:48
veryhappy!pastebin ax56202:48
ax562it didn't work02:48
ax562I have to enable universe02:49
joseluis64of course after I close eveyrthing02:49
veryhappyax562: please paste your output next time in pastebin.org otherwise you'll be kicked automatically after 3 lines posted.02:49
joseluis64veryhappy: memory of Xorg is not freed when I close all windows02:50
veryhappyjoseluis64: go into systemsettings and see if you switch off fade effects, slide effect and so on...02:50
joseluis64veryhappy no change02:52
ax562sorry02:52
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: http://pastebin.com/Q2Nyzasp02:55
Bashing-omax562: Outstanding ! I be look'n at your /Q2Nyzasp .02:56
ax562I couldn't get pastebinit to work though so I just used firefox02:56
ax562Not sure what universe is02:56
veryhappyax562: universe is a repository02:57
tkhan1quit02:57
ax562ah, well I believe I do not have that setup02:57
sneakertacki'm considering upgrading 12.04 to 14.04. if we assume a clean install, what are some lazy / easy ways to backup my data / current state?02:59
sneakertacki.e. if the install goes wrong how can i revert back to the pre-upgrade state easily?03:00
ax562kind of funny and weird that this ubuntu live cd runs faster and smoother on my system.lol03:00
Bashing-omax562: veryhappy // Well, well, We have a MBR partitioning , and Winsows boots on it ! WOW ! .. ok, ax562 now what have we got ? .. do: sudo mkdir /mnt/work , sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/work , ls -la /mnt/work/ <- . do you see a file system ?03:00
svetlana!backup | This has some options to back up useful data :03:00
ubottuThis has some options to back up useful data :: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:00
veryhappysneakertack: clonezilla03:00
svetlanaand no you can't downgrade easily, only by hand03:00
sneakertackok thanks, i will check those out03:00
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: yes! http://pastebin.com/XdusiFc503:03
writing_novelHey Hey! Fellow Ubu users!03:03
* writing_novel says: It is one thing when a government allows for the private execution of binaries, but it is quite another when that same government is also fine with the public hanging of servers! We must rebel, this cannot be tollerated!?!!!03:04
veryhappyBashing-om: why does he have an android folder in there?03:05
Bashing-omax562: veryhappy :: We do, we do have a file system ! .. ok, now ax562 ,,, what is the specific problem you are experiencing ? .. so far all looks good ! .03:05
veryhappywriting_novel: ubuntu-offtopic03:05
writing_novelactually I am trying to get information on building Hercules-390 version 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.x03:05
writing_novelUbuntu seems to break it03:06
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I've been compiling cyanogenmod from source.  but been running into hurddles.03:06
veryhappywriting_novel: was just wondering about the phrase03:06
CyanBlobHey guys, can anyone help me get a working sources.list file for Ubuntu 14.04 ARM? After I did an in-place update a while back, the sources.list seems to have not been updated03:06
veryhappyax562: ok03:06
CyanBlobI'm just looking for a basic sources.list03:06
writing_novelOh, I do not believe in the public hanging of servers....it is far to barbaric03:06
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm trying to resize my linux partition (make bigger).03:07
jethisoonin windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.03:07
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I tried using gparted but it wouldn't work.  It also said it would probably mess up my grub.03:08
veryhappyax562: Bashing-om with a live system you could resize your linux partition...03:08
Bashing-omveryhappy: IRT ax562 // android directory ,I do not have a clue ??? I am open to be taught !03:08
veryhappyax562: Bashing-om but as you mentioned just before it could mess up your system...03:08
writing_noveland with a dead system you could overwrite your Windows partition with Linux.03:09
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: cyanogenmod source compiling ;)03:09
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: my goal is to resize without messing anything up.03:10
veryhappyax562: Bashing-om he tries source compiling but have no clue of resizing his system :D03:10
Bashing-omax562: OK, I am getting in step here now .. what you have is a good install( we are not installing anew !) .. want to shrink windows to enlarge ubuntu ...!! gotcha !03:11
veryhappyax562: we have to find out how much space windows uses and how much we can shrink it...03:11
veryhappyax562: then everything should be fine and you won't mess your system up if you a) don't cancel the process once it runs, and b) don't have a powerloss03:12
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I already shrank windows.  I have 15,000 MB un-allocated for linux03:12
writing_novelyou can always shrink windows down to a zero byte sized partition you know.03:12
ax562lol03:12
writing_novelI like to take the same outlook my maid does...I avoid doing Windows at all costs!?!03:13
Bashing-omax562: ^^ , yeah .. and once Windows is shrubk ( using Windows tools ) then enlarge the extended partition (sda3) as that is the container that holds the logical partitions (sda4 and sda 5) .. then you may extend sda4 .03:13
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I already tried that.  It did not work03:14
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: It would not resize sda3.03:14
jethisoonin windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.03:14
writing_novelthat is because with Window's 'auto-bloat-ware' option, you can never really shrink it.03:14
ax562It said error.03:14
Bashing-omax562: humm .. you are saying you tried to extend partition sda 3 ... I do mean sda3 ! .03:15
nytekHey. Could someone help me without having me reinstall my OS? I installed the newest VMware Player in Ubuntu 14 trusty, and successfully had a distro iso I was sampling up and running as a VM. I just X'd out of it, and then I went back to using chrome for a bit. My computer froze at some point, and now it boots up to the login screen. When PW is entered successfully, it flashes to a black screen with a message and back to login.03:15
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I tried.  It would not resize sda3.03:15
nytekI could read: "Starting VMware AMQP Service:failed", and "saned disabled; edit /etd/default/saned", and "*restoring resolver state"03:16
nytekbefore it went back to the ubuntu login screen for trusty03:16
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: /dev/sda3 would not resize. :(03:16
writing_novelsanity disabled? That message is a Windows message!03:16
daftykinswriting_novel: can you please stop talking rubbish in here, thanks03:17
Bashing-om!pastebinit03:17
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com03:17
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm not sure if it was an issue because of breaking my sytem or gparted just didn't like it.03:17
veryhappyax562: did it give you a specific error message?03:17
GeoHello, I'm writing an init.d service, and working off of the skeleton example. With the command, "[ -r /etc/default/$name ] && . /etc/default/$name", what format does that config file need to be in? Is it just FOO="bar", etc?03:18
Bashing-omax562: The next thing then is to show us what GParted see the hard disk as .. how to output the image I can not advise. Help !03:19
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: Not too specifc.  1 sentence.  I can't remember specific.  I tried to save but it wouldn't.03:19
daftykinsBashing-om: image output? how do you mean?03:20
veryhappyBashing-om: we need an image hoster03:20
ax562daftykins: I'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition.  gparted wouldn't do it.03:20
writing_noveldaftykins: you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!03:20
Bashing-omax562: There is a way to get a screen shot of GParted to pastenin.img (??) .. I have not done it, so do not know how .03:21
Beldarlive gparted can reach the web by browser03:21
veryhappyBashing-om: first of all Bashing-om what do you mean with a picture of how gparted sees the harddisks?03:22
Beldarerr a gparted boot03:22
Beldarax562, Boot the live ubuntu you installed with and use it's gparted.03:23
Beldartake a screenshot there03:24
BeldarI suspect you have out of order partitions03:24
veryhappyBeldar: and where shall he upload it?03:24
ax562I have to unmount filesytem now though.03:24
Beldarany resize should be unmounted03:25
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: How can I unmount?03:25
ax562I mounted sda5 to /mnt/work I believe03:25
veryhappyax562: unmount /mnt/work03:25
Bashing-omax562: Than you ! Would have slipped my mind -> sido umount /mnt/work <- .03:27
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: umount not unmount03:27
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: yes.  thank you.03:27
veryhappysorry03:27
jethisoonin windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.03:27
ax562no worries I appreciate all thelp03:27
veryhappyBashing-om: it's 5::27 AM here and i might be already a little bit distracted...03:28
ninjaaronI started upgrading my home file server from 12.04 to 14.04 over ssh on my phone in a tmux session. At some point, I had to look at some config files to decide what to do. I couldn't see the whole dialog because of the size of the term in on my phone. I detached from on my phone so I could open it on my computer. Now, I can't get into my tmux session because my client is version 7 and my server is version 8,03:28
ninjaaronso it's sitting there in the middle of a dialog for updating my nfs config, but I can't get back to it. Looks bad. Any way I can get back to the update or somehow rescue this system? My data is all saved, but I'd have to set up the server again. Wouldn't be horrible, but I'd prefer to avoid it.03:28
veryhappyjethisoon: in kde and gnome you can simply click to unmount but we are working at text level mode...03:28
ax562how can I take a screen shot and pastebin?03:28
veryhappyax562: pastebin is for text hosting only...03:29
veryhappyax562: we have to find you an image hoster...03:29
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ax562Moving a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot.03:30
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: Moving a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot.03:30
ax562that is the first error03:30
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: you have selected to move start sector of sda3 failure to boot most likely will occur.03:31
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: pretty much sums it up03:31
ninjaaronax562: nothing a grub-install + update-grub couldn't fix.03:32
Beldarninjaaron, You seemed to have made a mistake not just using your computer, I doubt you will get that fixed from here in less time than a re-setup if at all.03:33
ninjaaronBeldar: yeah. Kind of my instinct about it as well. I've created a tmux time paradox.03:33
ninjaaronI'm so used to administering the machine from my phone that I don't even think about accessing it any other way.03:34
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: Sorry guys.  I've been stalling on my family for about a half hour here.  I have to go to the grocerry store.  I will be back and hopefully someone could help.  Thanks to everyone that has helped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:34
veryhappynp03:35
jethisoonin windows we have clickey, why dont we have something like that in linux??03:35
ninjaaronBeldar: I guess I'll just have to go get the drives and hook them up to my laptop for now so I can still watch "The Big Bang Theory." Boo hoo.03:35
veryhappyjethisoon: if you don't read what we write you then you have nothing left here.03:35
Beldarjethisoon, Not really a ubuntu support issue.03:36
ninjaaronNo mediatomb streaming for me.03:36
BeldarI use windows and don't even have the inkling to look up what clicky is jethisoon03:36
jethisoonBeldar so where do i ask these kind of questions?03:37
Beldarjethisoon, Who makes it?03:38
Beldarand what is it?03:38
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veryhappyok, guys, i'll be going03:40
veryhappysee you around03:40
veryhappytake care :)03:40
jethisoonclickey is a small application that makes clicking sounds whenever we press keys on the keyboard. its by grc.com03:40
Beldarjethisoon, I would ask them, it's 3rd party no OS channels would have support most likely.03:41
AdzzHi, I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 14.04 installation running XBMC, randomly it will just shutdown for no reason. can anyone give me a hand?03:42
ninjaaronInteresting. I did a hard reboot, and it has successfully booted, ssh, nfs, and UPnP appear to be working. probably just need to do some major package cleanup with apt. Crazy.03:42
jethisoonbeldar who shall i ask??03:43
Beldarjethisoon, No idea supposedly there is a possible sound app in ubuntu, but see no working example, so I can't really help.03:44
ninjaaronBeldar: No effing way. I run `sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a` and it picks up exactly where it left off. Must be pure luck (or more likely good engineering).03:45
Beldarninjaaron, cool03:45
sadistic1heartHELLO ALL03:46
jethisoonbeldar do you suppose if we write the distro makers they can help?03:49
OERIASjethisoon, Migrate to ----------------------------------------> Debian03:50
Beldarjethisoon, Honestly your the one who cares, I'm indifferent, it's your show. ;)03:50
AdzzDoes anyone know how I can diagnose as to why my desktop is shutting down randomly?03:50
jethisoonOERIAS why do they have clicking key sounds ?03:51
Beldarjethisoon, THis person is a troll ignore03:52
jethisoonBELDAR HAHA. TYVM.03:53
Beldarand a very bad one at that03:54
daftykinsit's quite sad that there are losers with nothing better to do than hamper us who help for free03:54
Geo[ -r /etc/efflux/$NAME.conf ] && . /etc/default/$NAME.conf03:55
BiZoNiXcd wadie03:55
BiZoNiXcdls03:55
br_okenI have an issue in Ubuntu 12.04 : often when I click on a Samba share bookmark, it doesn't work and says "invalid argument" but when I click again right away, it works03:55
Geothat should load the contents of $NAME.conf into vars, right?03:55
GeoBLA="moo"  in the .conf file can be referenced as $BLA in the new script?03:55
ninjaaronWell, thanks for being my sholder to cry on, Beldar. Looks like I'm off and running again. apt and dpkg are just way too awesome to be stopped!03:56
Beldarno help here but it's working03:56
AdzzDoes anyone know how I can diagnose as to why my desktop is shutting down randomly?03:59
OERIASBeldar you're the troll because you can't think independently03:59
rwwOERIAS: That's enough. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please limit your messages here so that they are appropriate.03:59
rww!guidelines03:59
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines03:59
rwwread ^03:59
OERIASrww, I can read in more languages than you ever will04:00
rwwOERIAS: I don't care. Stick to support discussion in here.04:00
OERIASAlrighty04:00
br_okenAdzz: maybe it is overheating or there is something in your power settings04:01
Ben64Adzz: check various logs in /var/log04:01
BeldarOERIAS, Hmm, my jazz playing and degree in ethnic studies, and grad work would show otherwise.04:01
Adzzbr_oken: I just checked with lmsensors and its reporting back 51c, also I live in a cold place atm so it can't be getting to hot...04:02
OERIASAlright Beldar, stick support, this is a support channel.04:02
AdzzBen64: I've check /var/log/syslog and there's not specific at the points when it shutsdown04:02
Beldarthats what I do04:02
OERIAS*stick to support.04:02
Ben64Adzz: the temperature reported is not really reliable though04:02
TJ-Adzz: does it suddenly lose power, or do a controlled shutdown the same as when you shutdown yourself?04:02
Ben64Adzz: and theres other logs besides syslog04:03
AdzzBen64: It's only just started happening after I reinstalled lubuntu 14.0404:03
AdzzTJ-: The last time it happened (when i actually was using it when it happened), it ran through the actual shutdown procedure as in the ubuntu outro shutdown whatever-you-wanna-call-it was running but then froze04:03
AdzzBen64: Which log would you recommend me to look into04:04
Ben64Adzz: is it a laptop04:04
AdzzBen64: Nope, desktop04:04
TJ-Adzz: OK, that suggests some kind of control event/signal that caused it, rather than, say, the PSU fluctuating, or the CPU/GPU simply freezing due to overheating04:04
AdzzTJ-: Yes, that's what I think also, I just can't find out what...04:05
TJ-Adzz: initiating a shutdown should be logged to "/var/log/auth.log", or "/var/log/syslog"04:05
AdzzTJ-: I'll go check it now04:05
TJ-Adzz: Is it on a network with other people that might want to, for fun day, send a remote shutdown command to aggravate you?04:06
AdzzTJ-: I don't think so but i just found something disturbing in my auth.log04:08
AdzzTJ-: My pc seems to be under a brute force04:08
AdzzTJ-: through SSH, loads of "POSSIBLE BREAK IN ATTEMPT"04:09
hawk_proservhelp04:09
AdzzTJ-: With usernames i don't have (seems like a bruteforce), but im behind my router which doesnt route port 22 to my router, how is this possible?04:09
TJ-Adzz: Where from? Is the PC directly connected to the Internet without a firewall or NAT-ing router in-between?04:09
AdzzTJ-: All over the place, and its behind a router04:09
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roboterhail! hail!04:10
TJ-Adzz: Looks like your router has been compromised from outside, and someone has set-up port-forwarding then04:10
ninjaaronexit04:10
ninjaaronshell commands totally don't work on IRC.04:10
TJ-Adzz: check the router configuration, maybe reboot it see if the compromise continues (that'll tell you if the router has saved the problem rule(s) )04:11
roboterin ubuntu 14.04 is not working MS Office 2000. It sucks!:(04:15
roboterubuntu 14.04 is fCukin bullshit04:19
OerHeksroboter, yes, it is not working.04:20
OERIASroboter, you are stating the truth!04:20
robotergreat shit:)04:21
* rww sighs04:21
rwwroboter: are you running Office in WINE or something?04:21
fnstickI have a computer that, for reasons I would not like to elaborate on, I cannot upgrade. It is version ubuntu 11.04 and I need to be able to install software from the repositories. Am I able to add the ubuntu 14.04 repositories or would that be an issue?04:22
rwwfnstick: it would be an issue04:22
fnstickrww: Then can I upgrade ubuntu by adding the repositories?04:23
OerHeks!eolupdate04:23
roboterrww: yup04:23
rww!eolupgrades04:23
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:23
Ben64fnstick: you just said you cannot upgrade?04:23
rwwfnstick: see ^ for the location of the 11.04 repositories these days, and upgrade info04:23
fnstickBen64: It is a remote host that I have no physical access to, cannot virtually mount anything outside of the OS04:23
fnstickrww: thanks04:24
SirLagzI have a laptop that doesn't resolve addresses, however when I run a `nslookup www.google.com 192.168.2.1` it will resolve the address fine04:24
SirLagzroutes are all there04:25
Ben64SirLagz: sounds like you're just missing a dns server04:25
SirLagzBen64: I would think so...but using Network Manager, it shows on there04:26
SirLagz"Primary DNS: 192.168.2.1"04:26
SirLagzso where else would I be missing it from ?04:26
Ben64what is in /etc/resolv.conf04:26
SirLagzBen64: it has 192.168.2.1 in there too04:26
SirLagzBen64: though I just added it in when I found i was empty04:27
Ben64SirLagz: you just added it now?04:27
SirLagzBen64: a little while ago now04:27
SirLagzBen64: it was blank before...except for the "generated by NetworkManager" line04:28
Ben64then things should work, probably04:28
SirLagzBen64: nope, still can't ping via dns04:28
the_coonhi04:28
SirLagzBen64: rather, still cant lookup things via dns04:28
Ben64SirLagz: what does it say for "Server" when you type "nslookup freenode.net"04:29
SirLagzBen64: connection timed out; no servers could be reached04:30
Ben64very weird04:30
SirLagzBen64: indeed.04:30
xorox90Is there a way to speed up mouse wheel?, I don't want to use imwheel since it block mouse forward, backward button, and Scroll wheel emulation seems not to work04:30
Ben64SirLagz: are you for sure using ubuntu04:30
SirLagzBen64: running nslookup freenode.net 192.168.2.1 works perfectly fine though04:30
SirLagzBen64: yes04:30
Ben64not mint, not elementary, not anything weird04:31
SirLagzBen64: definitely (x)ubuntu04:31
SirLagzi may have installed xfce later over ubuntu...i don't remember on this laptop04:31
SirLagzwife's laptop so I don't use it much04:31
Ben64on a real computer? not a phone or a raspberry pi or... etc04:31
SirLagzBen64: yes. Laptop.04:31
indn1234Yo guys, I wanna disable the ubuntu style scrolling on my lubuntu-desktop environment, and go back to old school scrolling side bars. Can I do that? How?04:31
SirLagzBen64: it is a quantal laptop...but I would assume that dns should still work04:32
Ben64SirLagz: it should yeah, but you should upgrade that04:32
SirLagzBen64: on my todo list. The newer versions don't have a working battery monitor for this laptop, and it's a rather important functionality04:32
SirLagzBen64: this is my wife's laptop and she uses it off AC a lot04:33
Ben6412.04 is older, yet supported :)04:33
SirLagzBen64: is there a way to downgrade ?04:33
Ben64no, unfortunately04:33
SirLagzBen64: then I'm stuck lol.04:33
eeeeindn1234: you there?04:36
happyfr0ggI am back.  I need help in fixing my Ubuntu Precise system.04:37
eeeeindn1234: type this in the terminal gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal04:38
indn1234Yo guys, I wanna disable the ubuntu style scrolling on my lubuntu-desktop environment, and go back to old school scrolling side bars. Can I do that? How?04:38
eeeeindn1234: check above04:38
eeeeindn1234: to revert to what it was type gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode overlay-auto04:40
SirLagzBen64: is there a specific way to set DNS servers apart from via networkmanager and /etc/resolv.conf ?04:40
happyfr0ggThe files and dependencies I was missing from the HWE from Update Manager, I installed those and now Unity (my login screen) fails to display.  What gives?04:40
Ben64SirLagz:  /etc/network/interfaces but that probably would just end up sticking it into resolv.conf anyway04:42
SirLagzBen64: I'm stumped. NetworkManager thinks the Primary DNS is what I set it to via the settings, but nslookup doesn't see it04:43
happyfr0ggI installed the wrong LTS Enablement Stacks for my Ubuntu 12.04.4 system. Ubuntu Unity now fails to display when booting up.  How do I fix this?04:47
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Reload the back up image you should have.04:48
Ben64happyfr0gg: boot into recovery mode and install the right stuff04:49
ax562back04:49
ax562Bashing-om: veryhappy: you guys still in here?04:51
Matt___Hi04:56
Matt___is anyone here?04:56
Matt___I've never used this before04:56
Matt___I really need help with an issue04:56
Matt___is anyone here?04:56
daftykinsask on one line.04:56
Matt___kk04:56
ax562what's going on?04:56
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Matt___Every time I boot up, I get the error seen here : http://imgur.com/Tyd3BIQ .  However, when I force a poweroff and then reset, it loads into grub, and then allows me to select boot up options.  At this point, I select Ubuntu and it just works.  When I shut my computer off again and turn it on later, I go back to the error at the start.04:58
Matt___How do I stop this kernel panic from happening, and why is it happening?04:58
madokawhat issue05:00
BeldarMatt___, Try another kernel and make sure that one was installed correctly.05:01
Matt___how do I do that?05:01
Matt___I apologize but I'm a relatively new linux user05:01
BeldarMatt___, The grub menu, does it have other kernels?05:01
Matt___Also, why would it work after rebooting every time05:01
Matt___I don't understand how everything just magically works after I hard reset05:02
geniiMagic.05:02
Matt___lol05:02
Matt___Is there a way I can check my kernels for you with the CLI?05:03
SthNotTakenI"m having trouble logging into PHPMyAdmin. My disk is at 95%, I suspect this is the problem. I'm logged in with Putty. How could I go about finding out where my disk is being used?05:04
zacwallshow can i set up a proxy on xubuntu 13.0405:04
BeldarMatt___, What ubuntu release is this?05:04
Ben64SthNotTaken: disk space shouldn't have anything to do with phpmyadmin05:04
Beldarzacwalls, Why are you using an eol?05:04
Matt___This is Xubuntu 14.0405:05
SthNotTakenBen64: not enough memory to store session. Session changes whenever I try to login, but I get a token.05:05
zacwallsBeldar know idea05:05
Ben64SthNotTaken: but to answer your question... "du -h --max-depth 1" in a directory will show all the directories in the current location and their sizes05:05
SthNotTakenBen64: thank you05:05
BeldarMatt___, Has this kernel ever booted?05:05
Matt___That's what I'm saying...every time I reboot, it works05:06
Matt___I don't think im selecting anything different05:06
BeldarMatt___, But it doesn't when?05:06
Matt___after I shut off my computer, and then turn it on later05:06
ax562anyone know if I resize my ubuntu partition will I still be able to dual boot?  Or what I have to do to fix grub once I resize to prevent error?05:06
Matt___thats when it gives me a panic05:07
SthNotTakenHow do I move up directories in ubuntu?05:07
Matt___it freezes, and then I respond by forcing the computer to poweroff manually05:07
BeldarMatt___, Sorry I have asked simple question and still do not understand you.05:07
SthNotTakencd.. gets "command not found"05:07
Ben64SthNotTaken: cd ..05:07
Matt___Beldar:  I get this error 100% of the time I boot up normally05:08
Matt___Beldar:  Upon forcing a reset, it enters grub, and then when I select ubuntu, it works05:08
BeldarMatt___, Any boot is normal, do you mean from a computer powered off?05:09
Matt___yes05:09
Matt___from a computer powered off05:09
Matt___although, it technically is powered off when I force it off after a panic05:09
BeldarMatt___, What is forcing a reset?05:09
SthNotTakenI see 18G in './var' but also 19G in '.' I should have 20G total05:09
Matt___When the computer freezes with the error I presented, I have to hold the power botton05:09
Matt___and then turn it back on05:09
Matt___this is when it boots into grub and works05:10
varunendraMatt___, like Beldar hinted, have you tried booting into older kernel? To me it sounds like some error on partition or the hard disk/partition is taking too long to get ready.05:10
BeldarMatt___, Do you have other kernels that work everytime in the grub menu?05:10
varunendraMatt___, you must press 'Shift' (or Esc) at booting time to get grub menu if you don't get it by default.05:11
Matt___I haven't tried anything else in the grub menu...all I know is that it auto-selects ubuntu05:11
Matt___okay i understand, but I don't want to have to boot into grub every time05:11
Matt___I want it just to work05:11
Matt___is there a way I can check if the kernel is malfunctioning?05:12
SthNotTakenI found the problem, Ben64. I've been sending mail to myself somehow.05:12
TJ-Matt___: Check that the kernel version has a matching initrd.img and that that file is *not* truncated. This can happen when the /boot/ partition runs out of room when the initrd.img is being generated05:12
happyfr0ggBen64 - I don't know what the correct LTS Enablement Stacks to install.  I naively installed the files I posted here --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7930386/ which are actually incorrect.05:13
Matt___Can you tell me how to do this?  I'm relatively new to linux05:13
SirLagzBen64: fixed the issue. damn my fuzzy eyes...mistyped something in /etc/resolv.conf =/05:13
ax562Weird.  Why would gparted boot disk not resize my partitions but ubuntu live cd gparted work?05:13
Matt___TJ: Can you tell me how to go about this?  I'm rather new to linux05:13
eeeeax562: cuz it's mounted in ubuntu ?05:13
SirLagzno idea why it got blanked out =/05:14
Beldarax562, any partitions mounted on the gparted boot?05:14
eeeeax562: nevermind05:14
SuperLagI had attempted to install Hotot. It was a mess. I ended up going with Tweetdeck, in Chrome. I'm still getting phanton notifications from Hotot though. How can I get them to stop?05:14
TJ-Matt___: first, reboot the PC hold down shift key and at the GRUB boot menu, choose "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose any older kernel05:14
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Guest88081gh05:14
ax562I was able to see all partitions on gparted.  I don't believe they were mounted and they aren't mounted in ubuntu live cd.05:14
varunendraMatt___, just try the grub menu (at cold boot) for a test. I think getting grub and needing to select something may just be an excuse to delay the booting for sometime, by then the hdd/partition gets ready.05:14
Guest88081vcvbç05:15
Beldarax562, Could have sworn you had asked how to unmount one.05:15
Matt___Ahh I see05:15
Matt___So how would choosing an older kernel help that?05:15
ax562Beldar: yeah I did because I had mounted it in ubuntu live cd and then I umounted it.05:16
Ben64happyfr0gg: how did you install those05:16
TJ-Beldar: Matt___ varunendra The panic stack-trace shows that the failure is when the kernel tries to mount the initrd itself, which suggests the file is invalid05:16
ax562Beldar: I never mounted when I booted through gparted live cd.05:16
BeldarTJ-, I figured it was in some way.05:16
Matt___TJ: would boot-repair for Ubuntu solve this problem?05:16
Beldarax562, Hard to say, you were there we were not.05:16
Matt___I am planning on following your instructions anyway, but I was just wondering05:16
ax562Beldar: mounting then unmounting would make a difference?05:17
Matt___TJ: So how do I fix initrd?05:17
Beldarax562, theoretically if done correctly no.05:17
jellowSuperLag, Hi there , Did you install hotot from repo ?05:17
happyfr0ggBen64 - via Synaptic Package Manager.  At the time, this was the only way I caould install them.05:17
varunendraTJ-, sounds reasonable, so a live boot > do cleanup > rebuild initramfs fix?05:17
TJ-Matt___: No, boot-repair isn't going to fix it. First thing you need to determine is if the "/boot/" directory is in a separate file-system, and if so, if it has run out of space - that is the usual reason for a bad initrd.img file.05:18
Ben64happyfr0gg: should be fine05:18
ax562Beldar: what I'm really wondering if resizing my ubuntu partition is going to break grub?05:18
TJ-Matt___: If there are still older kernel versions there they will/should have good initrd.img files, so if you can boot to an older kernel, then you can check the system properly05:19
happyfr0ggBen64 - Ubuntu Unity is failing to display. I cannot get to my GUI log in screen.05:19
SthNotTakenBen64: After deleting the mail, I can now login to PHPMyAdmin05:19
Beldarax562, sometimes it does sometime it doesn't depends on a few factors, of which among them may be no black or white answer. Grub is easy to fix however with the right help.05:20
TJ-Matt___: If it isn't an out-of-space issue we need to dig deeper... it could just be some corruption occurred whilst writing the initrd.img, in which case you can regenerate it with "sudo update-intramfs -uk all"05:20
Matt___TJ:  I don't believe that my /boot is in its own file system.  I think that it is in my main file system05:20
Ben64happyfr0gg: you may need to reinstall your graphics drivers, or reset unity or something then05:20
varunendraTJ-, I don't have very extensive experience with this, but wouldn't a bad initramfs cause troubles *Everytime*?05:20
TJ-Matt___: in which case, see my last answer :)05:20
ax562Beldar: thanks man.  I will reboot once this is done and hopefully it is not broken.05:21
Beldarax562, I have just noticed that in general you want exact answers but may not have the skills to make sure things happen as they should, just saying. ;)05:21
TJ-varunendra: In theory... but there's no evidence right now that sometimes a different version is being used. There could be issues with external devices connected, there could be I/O errors from the drive that are intermittent05:21
Matt___TJ:  I may have misinterpreted though.  What do you mean by, in its own file system?  Do you mean its own partition?05:22
Matt___TJ:  And how do I go about fixing it?05:22
ax562Beldar: trying to better understand.05:22
eeeeMatt___: try to type in the terminal df | grep /boot05:23
TJ-Matt___: is the system booted right now?05:23
ignerioushello05:23
Matt___TJ:  I typed it in and nothing happened05:23
Beldarax562, You are doing fine, I clone and backup everything in case I mess up or can't fix something, just makes things work for me easier.05:23
ax562Beldar: does grub care about memory locations or labels of partitions?05:24
Matt___TJ: no output I mean'05:24
ignerioushow to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?05:24
TJ-Matt___: do this: "df | pastebinit" and tell us the URL of the paste05:24
Beldarax562, It looks for the UUID address if you have not modified fstab.05:24
varunendraTJ-, Matt___ the I/O errors possibility is what I'm more inclined at, hence why I suggested delaying the boot anyhow (spend time on grub menu for example). Don't mean to barge in though, so I'll sit aside and watch the progress now.05:24
ax562Beldar: yeah.  I backed up a couple months back.  Not sure how great that's going to go because I'm using paragon back up now.  I've never used it before.05:25
Matt___TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930459/05:25
TJ-varunendra: no, I tend to agree, but I prefer to see evidence before entirely guessing :) If there are disk errors, we should signs in the logs05:25
ax562Beldar: does the uuid number change if partition is resized?05:25
TJ-Matt___: "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" ... if that reports being too large, then do "tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"05:26
Beldarax562,  I believe it can, I'm not real up on the changes made in a resize, you can make it in fstab a /dev/sdXX rather that UUID notation.05:26
Matt___http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930466/05:27
Beldarax562, XX is disc and partition info05:27
ax562Beldar: Ok.  I have some experience with that.05:28
ax562Beldar: Ok.  What is the command to check uuid again?05:28
Beldarax562, blkid05:28
ax562thanks05:29
Matt___TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930466/05:30
TJ-Matt___: Yeah, I'm reading it now, thanks05:30
TJ-Matt___: "ls -al /boot/ | pastebinit"05:31
Matt___TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930505/05:32
eeeemy initrd is 19156966 in size05:33
eeeeMatt___'s is slightly smaller05:34
eeeeat 1915415505:34
ignerioushow to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?05:35
TJ-Matt___: I don't think there is an issue with the initrd.img05:35
igneriousplease anyone05:35
eeeeTJ-: it's normal that the initrd is smaller in size?05:35
TJ-Matt___: I notice the system has a 120GB SSD. The initrd.img varies from system to system, it is dynamically generated05:36
ax562Beldar: thanks for the help. brb05:36
eeeeoh ok05:37
Matt___TJ: Yeah, the SSD is the only drive in this laptop05:37
TJ-Matt___: I know of issues where systems fail to boot completely when the firmware and boot-loader get 'confused' by the speed of the SSD, but as your system has already read the grub files, and grub has loaded the vmlinuz kernel image, and *should* have also loaded the initrd.img into memory after ther kernel, I can't see that being an issue either05:38
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TJ-Matt___: give me a few minutes to read the kernel source code in the mount_block_root() function, it may give me some ideas05:39
Matt___TJ: okay, thank you05:39
varunendraTJ-, Matt___ looks like the "*BAD*gran_size:" errors have long been associated with system freeze and requirement of a reboot. Matt___ is this a Gigabyte motherboard?05:40
Matt___verunendra: How do I check?05:40
varunendraMatt___, is it a desktop or laptop?05:42
Matt___laptop05:42
Matt___varunendra: laptop05:43
varunendraMatt___, I don't know a promising command, hunting for some. But Can you boot into BIOS and see if there is a feature called "IOMMU"?05:43
varunendrawow! did I scare him?05:44
varunendranope :p05:44
Matt___oops accidentally got kicked off05:44
Matt___did i miss anything?05:44
Matt___varunendra, I cant go into BIOS without leaving this chat05:44
Matt___this is my only computer05:45
TJ-Matt___: according to the code, the file-system has a bad superblock when that happens... do you power-off the system too quick, before the disk data can be flushed and saved?05:45
Matt___TJ: All I do is shutdown with the Xubuntu GUI05:46
TJ-Matt___: bad superblock means one of the key file-system structures inside the initrd, in this case05:46
subcool_my computer is acting stupid...05:46
subcool_OH and would u look at that TJ is here05:46
subcool_TJ-, :)05:47
SuperLagjellow: I had installed it from the repo. Hotot, that is. I've since removed it. Notifications finally went away.05:47
TJ-subcool_: I know, sorry, its all my fault :p05:47
Matt___TJ: I don't even know what powering off the system too fast means, besides manually holding the power button haha05:47
Matt___TJ:  I just shutdown with the GUI05:47
TJ-Matt___: OK, that's fine, I'm just trying to think of all causes of that issue. Let's move on. How regularly does this happen/05:48
SuperLagDifferent question. In Settings > Details, my default browser is listed as "Google Chrome (Unstable)". However, somethings are still opening the "Ubuntu Web Browser". How can I ensure that any calls of a URL open only Chrome?05:48
Matt___TJ:  One other thing to note, is that reboots dont cause this error ever05:48
subcool_TJ-, its ok, -- it happens :)05:48
TJ-Matt___: so cold-boots only?05:48
Matt___TJ: If by cold-boot you mean booting after the computer has been completely shut off for awhile05:48
subcool_ dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:49
subcool_Errors were encountered while processing:05:49
subcool_ libavcodec5305:49
subcool_ libavformat5305:49
subcool_ libavdevice5305:49
Matt___TJ: then yes05:49
TJ-Matt___: yes, that's what it means05:49
subcool_ libavfilter205:49
unopastesubcool_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted05:49
TJ-Matt___: OK, so other than this the PC behaves itself?05:49
Matt___TJ: yeah, I mean I get these Xorg errors occasionally, but that's about it05:49
Matt___TJ: I'm not sure if they are related05:49
TJ-Matt___: what are they?05:50
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Matt___TJ: shit, I wish I saved them.....I just remember something about Xorg.conf or something05:50
Matt___TJ: but i honestly cant remember05:50
ignerioushow to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?05:51
igneriousplease anyone05:51
Abhijithi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.05:51
frybyeis there some way I can use the automated bug-reporting system in 14.04 to address sys-app problems with a mainline kernel 3.15?05:52
Matt___TJ: I don't know if this will tell you anyting, but this is the boot info summary from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930611/05:52
Matt___TJ: IS this it???  The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition)"05:53
Matt___TJ : I just read this in the boot report05:53
TJ-Matt___: I don't know why it is reporting that! The files are at the beginning of the disk05:55
Matt___TJ: is there a way I can try and fix it?  This seems to be the problem right?  whether or not it is, it thinks it isnt at the start right?05:57
Abhijithi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.05:57
igneriousjust like login screen05:58
TJ-Matt___: Don't touch that, it is a totally wrong report05:58
Matt___TJ: :(05:59
Matt___TJ: I have to go to bed soon.  Is there any way I can get into contact with you to continue this tomorrow?  (especially if it will take longer?)05:59
varunendraMatt___, like TJ- , I also don't believe it is a boot configuration error. Most probably a memory, or disk/memory I/O, or BIOS issue.06:00
varunendraMatt___, how old is this laptop?06:00
TJ-Matt___: I suggest you do a memtest of the RAM. Do a total power-off shutdown. Leave it a fe minutes, then boot-up, access the GRUB boot menu, and then choose "Memory test (memtest86+)" and let it run for 1/2 hour or more... if no errors are reported, it *ought* to be ok.06:00
Matt___varuenendra: This laptop is brand new.  super good processor, 16 GB of ram06:01
Matt___TJ: Ok, will do.  Will you be on this forum tomorrow?  Are there hours you are usually here?06:01
TJ-Matt___: let's just check memtest is installed first, though, with "grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg" -- if you get any lines back with memtest in them, it is installed06:01
varunendraMatt___, any RAM upgrades or is it the default one? By the way, you may wish to post a thread at ubuntuforums.org if the problem doesn't get solved in live chat here.06:02
TJ-Matt___: I'm in England... its 0700 here... for some silly reason I've stayed up all night working, so this particular time is unusual for me06:02
Matt___### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' { knetbsd/boot/memtest86+.elf menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' { linux16/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###06:02
varunendraMatt___, and also try the 'delay booting by spending time in grub' suggestion.06:02
IronwaveHi, Im atempting to save a text file in my new apache2 folder, It says I dont have permission, How Do I obtain such permission? Im logged in as admin as far as I know...06:05
ignerioushow to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?06:05
AbhijitIronwave, sudo nano filepath06:05
AbhijitIronwave, use sudo06:05
TJ-varunendra: I'm not sure how timing would help here ... BIOS has loaded GRUB MBR, which has loaded core.img which has loaded the modules and menu, which has loaded vmlinuz into RAM before initrd.img ... and when the kernel starts there are no disk access warnings in its log either. It'd have to be a pretty unique stutter by the disk, for it to always cause this particular panic, rather than random faults06:06
IronwaveAbhijit: I asume you say that I must do this out of terminal then?06:06
AbhijitIronwave, in the terminal.06:06
TJ-varunendra: Matt___ This is more like potential 'sticky bits' in the RAM module where initrd.img gets loaded... grub doesn't do address randomisation so its always the same place06:07
varunendraTJ-, all those logs were recorded when the system booted fine. When it doesn't, it may not even get time to record those logs06:07
IronwaveAbhijit: Is there a way to do it from out the text editor? cos I don't know how to make the document in the terminal, and then save it.06:07
TJ-varunendra: My point is, the fault is always at the same place. a randomly faulty disk I/O wouldn't happen at exactly the same place every time06:07
eeeeIronwave: you could type gksu gedit /path/to/file06:08
Matt___TJ and varunendra: sorry guys i gotta leave now.  Thank you so much for all the help.  I will certainly be back here tomorrow so I hope to see you guys again06:08
TJ-varunendra: Matt___ but without better evidence we can still only guess.06:08
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Guest10296Yo06:08
eeeeIronwave: or you could browse the file manager with elevated privileges, using gksu nautilus . (typed in the terminal)06:08
Ironwaveeeee: thanks, Ill try that.06:08
IronwaveAbhijit: Thanks for the help06:09
svetlana(already asked at the #debian channel, they don't know) how can I view (and navigate) packages dependency graph with aggregated sizes of each graph node?06:09
SuperLagDifferent question. In Settings > Details, my default browser is listed as "Google Chrome (Unstable)". However, somethings are still opening the "Ubuntu Web Browser". How can I ensure that any calls of a URL open only Chrome?06:10
varunendraTJ-, that suggestion is based on USB booting I have experienced. With some BIOS, I always have to delay the detection time to >5 seconds. Otherwise the "Cold booting" fails. With some laptop models, a "Cold" booting ALWAYS fails with those usb sticks, while a hot reboot never fails.06:10
varunendraTJ-, but yes, I'm myself doubtful in case of an internal drive. I know it is pure guessing with little to no evidence.06:11
TJ-varunendra: but have you ever had it read the boot-loader and kernel completely fine, then keel over? I've seen it happen where the disk isn't ready when the BIOS looks for the PT and MBR, and so passes over the device, but not like this.06:11
igneriousplease anyone06:11
OERIAS?join #debian06:11
subcool_TJ how do i clear this up? i tried -f Install.. did the posts get removed? i got paused because i posted them.06:14
varunendraTJ-, in case of older (dying) drives, I have, but never seen that with a new one. And yes, the failures of that kind were random.06:14
TJ-subcool_: I've not idea what your issue is06:15
subcool_Errors were encountered while processing:06:15
subcool_ libavcodec5306:15
subcool_ libavformat5306:15
genii!pastebin | subcool_06:16
ubottusubcool_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:16
subcool_a few more too..06:16
frybyej/ #ubuntu-de06:16
subcool_doesnt work.. - i need to press yes for the command to complete06:16
TJ-subcool_: I'm guessing you've been using some packages from a PPA or other source, not the main Ubuntu archives, and they've broken the dependency graph06:17
subcool_TJ, i suppose... but its blocking my update06:18
young001hi,all,I have a shell :ls *.torrent|xargs -I {} tar -cvf 600.tar.gz {}|du -sh 600.tar.gz|cut -f1|awk '{ total += $1}; END { print total }'  it will tell terminated by signal 13, how to corrent it ?06:18
subcool_TJ-, appears to be simple codec stuff06:19
TJ-subcool_: you'll probably need to manually remove the offending packages using "dpkg -r <package-name>" until "apt-get -f install" can recover06:20
subcool_ok. thank you06:20
Abhijithi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.06:25
ax562back on the attack.  Thanks for all the help #ubuntu.  I didn't need to modify grub.  Weird how gparted boot disk wouldn't partition but ubuntu boot did06:27
Beldarax562, Can you clearly tell if a partition is mounted using gparted?06:33
Beldardo you know what you're looking for?06:33
IronwaveHi, my Laptops wireless conection drops insistently after 2 minutes.  Any ideas how to get it to work?06:42
Ironwavetoshiba satelite. Ubuntu desktop version06:43
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varunendraIronwave, try this script to generate a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1302422206:44
varunendrathen give us its pastebin link, Ironwave06:44
Ironwaveverunendra: Thanks06:44
varunendraIronwave, that's not a fix, just helps in determining a solution. :)06:45
Ironwaveverunendra: Thanks for the help, non the less :-)06:45
varunendraWelcome :)06:45
helmut_hi06:49
Ironwaveverunendra: How can I "paste" into terminal? cntrl v dont work?06:50
varunendraIronwave, Ctrl-Shift-V06:51
varunendraIronwave, or mouse right-click > Paste :)06:52
Ironwaveverunendra: That embarisingly easy :-/06:52
varunendra:p06:53
happyfr0ggIf I download the new Ubuntu 12.04.4 iso with the new Saucy HWE stack, will this act like a completely new install?06:58
grobe0bahappyfr0gg, yes06:58
varunendrahappyfr0gg, if doing a fresh install, it'll act like a fresh install :)06:59
varunendraotherwise not.06:59
Beldarhappyfr0gg, What do you plan to do with the download?06:59
happyfr0ggI was hoping this would upgrade and update my current Precise install that does not have the new Saucy HWE stack.07:01
Ironwaveverunendra: pastebin.com/AaSb2MDK07:02
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Ironwaveverunendra: Thank you for creating the "experimental parts" :-D Its was snapshot during wireless working condition.07:03
ax562Beldar: sorry for the late response.  Gparted boot disk never mounted any partition.  When in ubuntu boot disk, I mounted then unmounted my filesystem partitions.  Then, I partitioned and it worked flawlessly.  I din't try to partition before any mounting sequence though so I'm not sure If that's what did it.07:04
happyfr0ggBeldar - does the download offer a update/upgrade option? I don't want certain user data I have stored to be erased.07:04
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Beldarax562, Can you tell if mounted or unmounted clearly was my question.07:05
varunendraIronwave, you have uploaded the script itself. Please run it as per instructions in the post. If you did, it should have generated a "wireless-info.txt" file (or wireless-info.tar.gz). We need to see the contents of that file.07:05
bluegoonGuys I'm trying to mount my other harddrive07:05
bluegoonbut getting this error07:05
bluegoonYou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “343c8d3d-13eb-488d-ad23-e34eeeaf0494”.07:05
bluegoonWhen I ls the drive, it looks like it belongs to user 999?07:06
Beldarhappyfr0gg, The download is an iso you burn to a disc or load a usb with.07:06
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Your question was just strange enough hard to tell what you thinking is all.07:07
ax562Beldar: yes you can.  You cannot resize if mounted.07:07
Beldarax562, true, but do you know the icon you would see on a mounted partition?07:08
ax562Beldar: It also give you the mount/unmount options when you are on one or the other.07:08
varunendrahappyfr0gg, if you want to upgrade your existing installation to Sausy HE stack, read the command instructions here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack07:09
ax562i used the drop down.07:09
Beldarax562, I think you may have just not known you see a little lock on mounted partitions, install gparted open it and you will see what I mean.07:10
ax562Ok on the list that shows the partitions right?07:10
BeldarBeldar, generally what happens is the swap is automounted is all07:10
Beldaryeah07:11
Beldarax562, I'm not sure on the gparted boot disc the locks are there, different versions may have other indicators is all.07:12
ax562yeah I seen them but I didn't recognize their function. now I know.  I would know if I could unmount/mount and vice versa.07:12
ax562I believe they were their on both version but I believe my gparted is older version than what was on the ubuntu disk.  but the gui looked very similar.07:13
Beldarax562, A computer will act up, it may have just been an anomaly on the gparted boot, just making sure you know the options to check is all. ;)07:13
ax562thanks07:13
happyfr0ggBeldar - If I do the procedures as outlined in the link you provided, will they include the needed dependencies and recommended packages??07:15
Beldarhappyfr0gg, I never gave you a link.07:17
varunendrahappyfr0gg, I think you mean the LTSEnablement link I gave you. Yes, after installing whatever that wiki tells you, everything will be up to date. The kernel, headers and Xorg packages that is.07:17
varunendrahappyfr0gg, but a clean install is always the best and safest way to go. After trying it in Live Mode of course.07:18
linuxuz3rhi07:18
justme12hi all, i'm a newbie with ubuntu, but not linux/unix, ran 14.04 and upgraded 14.04.1 but now unity is broken: no top panel, no icons on the left - don't know which program is responsible for that part, compiz or?07:19
Ironwaveverunendra: I selected the wrong file :-p  Here is the right one.  Pastebin.com/xce2hFgy07:19
justme12detail: desktop icons appear, context menu for root window also ... but no top panel/bar or icons on the left07:20
happyfr0ggvarunendra - hopefully this will fix the Unity log in screen not displaying at all. I currently get a black screen. I am running Fedora in live usb mode.07:21
paulpaul1111how do i change directories in the files application? like i want to just enter /usr/bin and get into that directory, how do i do that?07:22
varunendrahappyfr0gg, no idea about that, so can't say whether it may help or not. It'll surely upgrade your Xorg packages though, so you *may* have to reconfigure the graphics (xorg.conf file) if you did it manually last time.07:23
justme12varunendra: I guess you addressed my problem :-) I did not change xorg.conf manually .. all worked just fine with simple install for 2 weeks until 14.04.1 upgrade .. I installed GNOME desktop which works (right now I use f-irc on the console)07:25
justme12varunendra: misread .. ignore07:26
varunendrajustme12, good correction, because all I can do with graphics issues is to mess them up real good :p07:26
happyfr0ggvarunendra - I installed the incorrect LTSEnablement Stack for Trusty.07:27
varunendraIronwave, are you in South Africa? And do you have admin access to the router you are connecting to?07:28
Ironwaveverunendra: I disable networking, and then enable networking, then it conects to the network, for a few minutes, the report is on the conected state07:28
Ironwaveverunendra: Yes, South Africa, Its my own router, so yes.07:28
varunendraIronwave, just type "varu" then press 'Tab' -- it'll autocomplete my nick name. You are typing a wrong spelling currently :)07:29
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Ironwavevarunendra: ^^ Im so sorry07:29
hagbard1hi all07:30
happyfr0ggvarunendra - I naively followed what Updated Manager was told me.07:30
varunendraIronwave, that's no problem. :)07:30
varunendraIronwave,  just make sure the country setting (if visible or editable) in the router is set to "South Africa", then try explicitly defining your country code (ZA) for regdomain settings in Ubuntu, with the following command - "sudo sed -i 's/^REG.*=$/&ZA/' /etc/default/crda"  - it'll take effect after a reboot.07:32
varunendrahappyfr0gg, so any problems now?07:32
Ironwavevarunendra: Outch. ok. Ill go mess with the setting, Always Fun :-D Thanks for the help.07:33
varunendraIronwave, besides that change, you should also try some available driver parameters as suggested here (change "rtl8192ce" with "rtl8192se" in the commands) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1281591207:33
Ironwavevarunendra: Great :-) Your the best07:34
varunendraIronwave, only if it helps, which it rarely does :p07:34
Ironwavevarunendra: Haha, Ill be back I have plenty other problems too :-) one at a time.07:35
varunendraIronwave, if you can catch me here :D07:35
hagbard1guys, could someone help me please with audio card? i have ubuntu 14.04 minimum install, lenovo g505 with amd 833007:36
hagbard1and i cannot get audio to work :(07:36
hagbard1proprietary drivers from amd are installed, and video/hdmi output work fine07:36
happyfr0ggvarunendra - I am currently limited to the root shell prompt via the Grub Recovery Mode.07:37
varunendrahappyfr0gg, that's too bad :(07:37
happyfr0ggvarunendra: yeah, it effing sucks!07:39
varunendra!bootoptions | happyfr0gg, tried boot options?07:40
ubottuhappyfr0gg, tried boot options?: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.07:40
varunendrahappyfr0gg, especially 'nomodeset'07:40
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eGGshkeHello all !07:44
eGGshkeCan anyone else tells you how to track broken repository ?07:45
bazhangwhat version of ubuntu eGGshke07:45
eGGshkebazhang 14.0407:46
bazhangeGGshke, how is the repo broken; is it a PPA or what07:46
eGGshkebazhang yeah, PPA repo07:46
bazhangeGGshke, contact the PPA maintainer for that07:47
eGGshkeI get an error in the notification07:47
eGGshkebazhang Can I receive error from apache ?07:50
eGGshkebazhang in notification panel07:50
bazhangeGGshke, you are using a ppa for apache?07:53
eGGshkebazhang no, i using it in standart ppa.07:54
bazhangeGGshke, ppa are not standard07:55
bazhang!ppa07:55
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:55
BeldareGGshke, Can you show us this ppa?07:56
Abhijithi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.07:56
eGGshkeBeldar How can I do that ?07:57
Abhijitcopy paste link?07:57
BeldareGGshke, Any ppa has a web page.07:57
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eGGshkeBeldar I fixed it helped: dpkg-reconfigure -a07:59
ripthejackerIs is okay to have different filesystem types for root and home partitions?07:59
grobe0baAbhijit, yeah, i can see why it isn't working07:59
grobe0babecause there is no subnet declaration for eth007:59
Abhijit:-o07:59
grobe0bayou are using a completely different IP range on the card07:59
ripthejackerEg. / is of type ext4 and /home is of type ext3? Will it cause any problem?07:59
grobe0bathan you are trying to serve with dhcpd07:59
clark__hi all, I looking for a tool for monitor changes in my file system.08:00
Abhijitgrobe0ba, how to correct it?08:00
grobe0bayou obviously didn't bother changing anything in that example file08:00
grobe0bato fit your situation08:00
grobe0baAbhijit, read the file. change to match08:00
Abhijitok08:00
Beldarripthejacker, Should not be an issue, is this a purposeful file setup?08:00
ripthejackerBeldar, I cannot format my /home partition and this is a five year old machine. and I am formatting my root partition08:01
Beldarripthejacker, I figured that was the case, thanks.08:02
ripthejackerBeldar, so should I stick to ext3 or go ahead with ext4?08:02
Beldarripthejacker, Your choice really.08:02
ripthejackerBeldar, thanks a ton :)08:02
clark__..for example now I have a totally fresh OS install and should like to be able to log every change in the system08:02
Beldarclark__, Is the next question "how do I do it"?08:03
clark__Beldar, was hopping to find a tool, what I want to be able to do is that every time I run an apt-get install I get a new md5sum over the system08:06
clark__..or something like that08:06
Abhijitgrobe0ba, working now.08:12
grobe0bayeah, it tends to do that when you don't try to use an example file without modifying it08:13
Abhijit:-p08:13
alipoor90Hi08:21
alipoor90How Can I add items to Gnome 3 right click menu?08:21
ivan__ma08:23
lesshastefor some odd reason my keyboard layout seems to have changed to US. When I do shift-2 I get @ instead of "08:26
lesshastehow can I change it back to UK?08:26
clark__basically I want to set up  system that let me rollback to previous state,are there any GUI tool available to help me with this ? Google give nothing, any ideas ?08:27
Ironwavevarunendra: Hi, are you online?08:29
varunendraIronwave, yup08:29
Ironwavevarunendra: as per sugestion, I checked my settings on router, its set to south africa08:29
wulong710hello. My laptop always disconnect internet , with error "ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x18f!". My  network adapter is AR9287. Anyone had met with this situation?08:29
Ironwavevarunendra: When I ran the code you give, to put ubuntu on south africa settings,it gives a tipe of menu. not sure if that is right?08:30
Ironwavevarunendra: I also tried the settings in the terminal, and it wont connect at all after that, all 3 diferent ones. it just keeps scanning allthough it sees the network...08:31
varunendraIronwave, the 'sed' command I suggested should return no outputs. It silently modifies a file. What do you see if you now enter "iw reg get" in terminal? Does the first line show "ZA"?08:33
Ironwavevarunendra: country 0008:33
varunendraIronwave, and the commands to apply the parameters (temporarily) are sets of two each. The "modprobe -r.." removes the driver thus disabling the wireless, the "modprobe" without "-r" reloads the driver, thus enabling it again.08:34
varunendraIronwave, "country 00" means the command was not run properly. Can you show us the exact command you entered in the terminal for regdomain settings?08:35
Ironwavevarunendra: sek, ill type it over08:35
varunendrawulong710, that error sounds familiar, but in context of Intel driver (iwlwifi). Don't remember seeing it with ath9k.08:35
varunendrawulong710, can we see a report generated by this script ? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222  - give us its pastebin link.08:36
varunendraIronwave, by the way, you can Temporarily set the regdomain setting with "sudo iw reg set ZA" command. You can then confirm the change with "iw reg set" command.08:37
Ironwavevarunendra: sudo sed -i's/^REG.*=$/&ZA /'/etc/default/crda08:38
Ironwavevarunendra: the menu I get as a reply gives a lot of numbers. usage sed option    -n --quit, --silent08:39
varunendraIronwave, there is no space after "ZA", and there IS an space after the closing single quote (')08:39
Abhijitwhats that terminal app to list disk usage in tree view?08:40
wulong710varunendra:  ok . i will try it .08:40
varunendraIronwave, there is also a space after "-i". The command again - "sudo sed -i 's/^REG.*=$/&ZA/' /etc/default/crda"08:40
* Symmetria waves at the other south african in the room08:41
IronwaveSymmetria: *WAVES BACK*08:42
Ironwavevarunendra: mmm, I typed it over, now it run, without giving a reply. still, when I do iw reg get, it says country 00. Ill try the reg set za first08:45
varunendraIronwave, like I said earlier, the change caused by the 'sed' command will take effect after a reboot. But the "iw reg set" command will do that immediately.08:47
Ironwavevarunendra: The temporary one worked08:47
Ironwaveill restart quickly08:47
varunendraIronwave, the permanent one has also worked. :) You'll notice the change after a reboot :)08:47
varunendraIronwave, not needed08:47
Ironwavevarunendra:  needed. I have to reset the driver parameters to how it was, cos I cant connct at all to the net now08:49
varunendraIronwave, just reload the drivers without parameters.08:50
Ironwavevarunendra:  I dont know how?08:50
varunendraIronwave, "sudo modprobe -rv rtl8192se" .... then .... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192se"08:50
varunendraIronwave, which one (the parameters) did you try last?08:51
Ironwaveswenc08:51
varunendraIronwave, I don't think any of the suggested three should cause connectivity problems. Did you get any error while running the command? I am suspecting a typo there.08:52
Trudkoguys I cant disable touchpad while typing I tried settings and I tried pointing devices app doesnt seem to work08:53
varunendraIronwave, have to go for half an hour or so. Meanwhile, I suggest you try the parameters again. All three if needed. I have seen most success with the "fwlps=0" in cases like yours.08:54
Ironwavevarunendra:  the first listed one. sudo modprobe -rv rtl8192se hit enter, then sudo modprobe -v rtl8192se swenc=1 No errors, just a scanning of the networks but not connecting, alltho its visible.08:54
Ironwavevarunendra:  Ok, thanks you very much. Ill do again08:54
varunendraIronwave, that's correct, no typos08:54
varunendraokay then, see you later.. Ironwave :)08:54
Ironwave*waves at verunendra*08:55
high_fiver!tomboy09:01
high_fiverIRC channel for Tomboy anyone?09:01
ikoniasearch09:01
ikoniait's not a yellow pages09:01
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ivaliI have separate partitions for /home and /. If i upgrade my ubuntu and choose partitions accordingly, will i lose anything from /home ?09:09
yz3pDbackup it!09:11
ivaliyz3pD, thank you for the tip, i will do it. I thought the point of having separate partitions was that i don't need a backup.09:12
shndnsivali you dont have to but it would be smart to09:12
chriashi09:13
shndnshi09:14
smabosheHello! I'm trying to upgrade to the latest LTS. I'm getting 'ValueError: unknown locale: en_ZM' when running 'sudo do-release-upgrade'. Help?09:14
yz3pDivaldi, everybody things : i don't need a backup, but then the hd crashs...09:16
antonio_Hey folks...09:20
antonio_has anyone else had a problem with skype not working / connecting today?09:20
antonio_I also saw that skype needed to be updated on my phone.  Any chance that Skype did an update that broke the Linux versions today?09:21
diego_1hello unable to mount external hard drive09:23
backboxNeed more information than that09:23
diego_1weird message i unplug without ejecting by mistake any suggestions , can i reboot ubuntu09:23
backboxyou mean you installed and didnt eject after installtion?09:24
diego_1unable to mount external hard drive09:24
diego_1input /output error09:25
backboxunable to mount as root?09:25
backboxor unable to mount the os09:25
backboxmount the os on /09:25
diego_1unable to mount external hard drive on my ubuntu09:25
diego_1ubuntu works fine i just unplug it yesterday witout unmounting09:26
backboxcan you give me more details?09:26
diego_1asking if i can just reboot ubuntu and connect again my external hard drive will it mount again ?09:26
backboxyes09:27
diego_1thanks09:27
backboxif you trying to dual boot a distro use partitioning09:27
antonio_I also saw that skype needed to be updated on my phone.  Any chance that Skype did an update that broke the Linux versions today?09:32
_littlebithi people, is there a way to diagnose the boot time of an ubuntu system?09:33
_littlebitin order to optimize the boot. like seeing what programs take the most time during the boot etc?09:34
high_fiver_littlebit, post a link to your boot-info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info09:35
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IronwaveHi. When I setup up a conection on my laptop. Is it recomended that I enter the BSSID and Device MAC address also?09:40
Ironwaveubunto desktop.09:40
IronwaveIMy conection keeps dropping.09:41
matty_rproblems with your wifi?09:42
high_fiverIronwave, you don't "need" to as they should be picked up automatically when joining the wireless connection09:43
high_fiverwhat's the issue?09:43
Ironwavematty_r:  Yes. But I think its a simple matter, in that I just dont know how to set it up proprly09:43
Ironwavehigh_fiver:  I connect right, but after 5 mins, it disconects09:44
matty_ris it a broadcom chip?09:44
Ironwavehigh_fiver:  This is via wifi09:44
Ironwavematty_r:  I dont know.09:44
varunendramatty_r, it is a Realtek, using rtl8192se.09:46
matty_rgo into terminal and typr sudo lshw > hw_info09:46
varunendraIronwave, still the same situation?09:47
Ironwavevarunendra: Yes, But I suspect a simple issue, rather, like i dont know how to set it up maybe,09:47
varunendraIronwave, may we see a fresh report of the wireless_script showing the current status?09:47
Ironwavevarunendra: reason. current status is off. I have to amnualy refresh networks, then it conncet for 5 mins.09:48
Ironwavevarunendra: I will load a new one now. Just want to say; all of your ideas scan, but it dont connect. Thus the problem might be that my default setup is maybe wrong?09:49
varunendraIronwave, since you have tried some changes, it is a good idea to see clearly where we are standing now.09:50
Ironwavevarunendra:  no problem, ill get the info now09:50
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dacorr1Has anyone encountered an issue with wine not being able to detect directdraw?09:51
Ironwavevarunendra:  oh :-/ I have to restart, cos network wont conect at all now.09:52
varunendraIronwave, the script can be run manually09:52
varunendra..without internet connection.09:52
dkjldkjdid ubuntu ever switch to systemd?09:53
Ironwavevarunendra:  im listening? But im restarting, so it is no problem, dont take lang09:53
varunendraas you wish Ironwave :)09:53
Bashing-omax562: Power outage here,,, How is your status with the partition expansion ?09:54
Ironwavevarunendra: pastebin.com/5GtH7UDY10:00
Ironwavevarunendra: I am unfortunately much slowr then my pc :-/10:00
high_fiverdkjldkj, can't find systemd service10:00
high_fiverdkjldkj, I presume it would be a service10:01
Ironwavevarunendra: Aditional info. Right after restart, the default is conection is conected.10:01
varunendraIronwave, as I can see now, there is only one connection now? Or are there more? I mean the connection profile you have saved (Wi-Fi connection 1)?10:03
dkjldkjhigh_fiver: it replaces upstart10:03
dkjldkjit's a init10:03
Ironwavevarunendra:  I deleted all profiles and made a new one again. there is suposed to be one only10:03
Ironwavevarunendra:  I see another conection, but its not mine.10:04
varunendraIronwave, that is oaky, actually what I was going to recommend.10:04
dkjldkjmost distributions are making the switch to systemd10:04
dkjldkjFedora, Arch, etc to name a few10:05
Ironwavevarunendra:  I want you to take me trough the setup please, as I think im doing something wrong mayhaps10:05
dkjldkjI read somewhere Ubuntu would make the move soon10:05
Ironwavevarunendra:  Here is what I see.10:05
Ironwavevarunendra:  Rather, wait a wile If you please. My laptop is still conected...10:06
varunendraIronwave, please try changing channel 6 in the router to channel 1 or 11. And just for a test, also try disabling 'N' mode in the router (set it to b/g only mode). Reboot the router after saving any changes.10:06
dkjldkjIronwave: having wireless issues?10:07
Ironwavedkjldkj: Yes, But varunendra is very helpful thank you.10:07
GioraIs there anyway to disable this awful global menu for v14.04?10:07
Ironwavedkjldkj: And im to slow to follow multiple peoples sugestions :-p10:07
dkjldkjIronwave: what wireless card do you have if you don't mind me asking?10:08
dkjldkjIronwave: sorry10:08
varunendraIronwave, another person's ideas can always do the magic though :)10:08
Ironwavevarunendra: No doubt! but as I say, Im taxed to follow even these simple instructions. ! Im a complete noob.10:08
varunendradkjldkj, a detailed report about Ironwave's wireless setup : http://pastebin.com/5GtH7UDY10:09
kostkonGiora, yes, in your Appearance settings10:09
Ironwavedkjldkj: Thank you for wanting to help! No offence!10:09
GioraI don't want it integrated locally10:09
GioraI want it gone entirely10:09
GioraBack to its old behavior10:09
varunendraIronwave, so the changes I just suggested are to be made in the router. In Ubuntu, try setting "IPv6" to "Ignore" in Network Manager. Doesn't seem related, but just to reduce possible complexities.10:10
dkjldkjIronwave: modinfo rtl8192se10:10
dkjldkjmight be some parameters that need to be set10:11
varunendradkjldkj, that is included in the report. :)10:11
Ironwavevarunendra: Question. It looks to me Like the settings is weak on the card itself. It disconect cos the conection becomes unavailable.  In THE OTHER OS, the cards strenth can be set to maximum. Can it be set here?10:11
varunendraIronwave, you can only set transmission strength, which seems okay in the report. (20 dBm)10:12
dkjldkjsorry i see it now10:12
Ironwavevarunendra: Reason. just before conection drop, I get 2 stripes conection. But the router is 2 meters away, so that cant posibly be true.10:13
varunendraIronwave, there may be a problem of loose antenna connection, but this driver is known to have such issues with the latest kernels in Ubuntu. Usually we suggest trying a backported driver in such cases, but unfortunately a recent bug causes it to fail to compile on kernel versions > 3.13.0-3010:14
Giorakostkon: isn't there any way to disable it entirely?10:15
dkjldkjIronwave: have you tried a different network manager like "wicd"?10:15
varunendraIronwave, two of the three suggested parameters try to address the same issue (they disable firmware/link power save, so it performs on 100% power all the time)10:15
Ironwavedkjldkj: I downloaded 2 but it didnt even conect, Ill look up your sugestion.10:15
kostkonGiora, not sure whether it is possible in 14.04. I could only find this http://askubuntu.com/questions/441421/how-to-disable-global-menu-and-have-always-visible-menu-bars10:16
Ironwavevarunendra:  edit wifi connection - ipv6  settings - I se no way to ignore settings...10:16
varunendraIronwave, it should be under "IPv6 Settings" tab10:17
Giorakostkon: Alright thanks I'll try to figure it out myself10:17
varunendraIronwave, "Method" field10:17
Ironwavevarunendra:  Gotit.10:17
varunendraIronwave, can you download about 8-9 MB package? We can try the backports anyway.10:18
Ironwavevarunendra:  Im sure, Looks like I get about 10 to 15 mins uptime when I conncet10:19
varunendraIronwave, sure of what?10:19
Ironwavevarunendra:  Sure that I can download plenty :-)10:20
varunendraIronwave, then please download the 3.15.1-1 package from here : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/10:20
varunendralet me know whey it's done Ironwave10:20
varunendrawhen*10:20
Ironwavevarunendra:  im on it.10:20
chrirchi...when i press a key to wake from suspend i can't click the mouse to enter my password in order to get in the desktop10:22
varunendrachrirc, does the 'Tab' key work? Try that instead to get the job done. Maybe the mouse driver isn't resuming properly.10:23
chrircif i press tab i can enter password?  thanks...i will try it now10:24
varunendrachrirc, 'Tab' should just move the focus to the password field (may need to press multiple times). Once in focus, you can type in it.10:25
Ironwavevarunendra:  Can I open that link in a browser, or must it be in prompt?10:25
Ironwavevarunendra:  browser wont open it10:25
varunendraIronwave, does the browser open ANY other links?10:26
Ironwavevarunendra:  Sure, was on wiki just now. Let me double check10:26
varunendraIronwave, in the terminal, you may try "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.15.1/backports-3.15.1-1.tar.xz" But it seems your connection has frozen now, in which case the terminal method will fail too.10:27
Ironwavevarunendra:  wiki works... Ill double check spelling10:27
varunendraIronwave, you can directly right-click this link : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ and select "Open in browser" (If you IRC client provides such option)10:28
IronwaveIm on a difrent pc, so I can be connected all the time wile I chat. Thus the delay and wrong spelling some times...10:29
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chrirchi...i tried to press tab key after suspend to enter password but not working...mouse click not working too10:32
Ironwavevarunendra: interisting.. I checked the spelling 3 times. It wont connect to that site. Im gona log into chat via that browsers irc. then I can just click the link. Ill contackt you now as Ironwave210:34
varunendrachrirc, 'Tab' key just moves the focus of input. So you may have to press it multiple times. But if the keyboard is frozen too (after awake) or if the screen itself, then ofcourse it won't work.10:34
ironwave2varunendra:  provide the link again if you please10:34
varunendraironwave2, are you trying to open the link in the Ubuntu laptop or the one which you are chatting from?10:35
ironwave2varunendra: ubunto wireless problem pc10:35
ironwave2varunendra: yes10:35
chrircso what can i try  to fix this?10:35
ironwave2varunendra: i want to open the link on the problem pc.10:36
varunendraironwave2, it is just an archive package, you can download it anywhere, then copy it to the target system. Besides, I have very little hope that the compile bug is fixed, so it may not succeed at all.10:36
funktHi there I have just done a hardware update on Ubuntu 12.04 and when I restarted the screen thinks it is a laptop with a very low resolution and the screen display is locked at 640 x 480 and the screen is a desktop monitor any help would be great?10:36
ironwave2varunendra: wich release should i take?10:37
varunendrachrirc, unless we know what is not working (the display, the mouse, or the entire system) it is hard to guess. Usually we just add the problematic driver to a config file so it is removed at suspend, and reattached at resume.10:37
varunendraironwave2, the 3.15.1-110:38
ironwave2varunendra: 3.16-rc5-110:38
ironwave2varunendra: k10:38
MagicSpudhello does anybody run minecraft on ubuntu?¿10:39
IronwaveIronwave2, you can directly right-click this link : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ and select "Open in browser" (If you IRC client provides such opti10:39
varunendrachrirc, is it a mouse or a touchpad? A desktop or laptop?10:39
chrircdestop...using a usb keyboard and mouse10:39
ironwave2that worked :-)10:40
ironwave2varunendra: must I save or open with manager?10:40
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varunendraironwave2, save10:40
funkthi there anyone have any xrandr commands?10:40
ironwave2varunendra: done10:40
funktMy monitor is locked on 640 x 40010:41
varunendraironwave2, when it is downloaded, copy it onto your Desktop > right-click > Extract here10:41
varunendrachrirc, if it is a USB mouse, does unplug > replug work?10:41
funktHi there dies anyone know of a way I can go back after a hrdware update?10:43
funktdoes*10:43
varunendrachrirc, and does Ctrl-Alt-F1 work? It'll take you to a text only console. Ctrl-Alt-F7 will bring you back to GUI10:43
ironwave2varunendra: done10:43
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chrirci did not try it...i read on the internet that its the open source graphics driver but with nvidia same problem10:44
varunendraironwave2, now open a terminal and enter these commands - "cd Desktop/backports-3.15.1-1" ..... "make defconfig-rtlwifi"10:45
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Guest69911hi, I accidentally chmodded everything to 777. Is there a way to revert this?10:46
chrircif tab not working after resume i suppose no other key works10:46
varunendraironwave2, is the target system (Ubuntu) still connected to internet?10:46
varunendrachrirc, try the Ctrl-Alt-F1 thing to make sure.10:46
ironwave2varunendra: yup10:47
varunendraironwave2, done those two? Without errors?10:47
ironwave2varunendra: buzzy10:47
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chrircok...i will try it and be back...thanks10:48
Bashing-omGuest69911: "everything" means '/' and all below ??10:48
ironwave2varunendra: # configuration written to .config10:48
goeo_Bashing-om: yes.10:48
goeo_literally everything10:48
varunendraironwave2, I should have done this earlier, but can be done now also - please make sure the headers and build-essential are installed beforehand. That is - "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential"10:49
goeo_chmod -R 777 /10:49
ironwave2varunendra: okays, ill do that10:49
goeo_instead of p I pressed enter accidentally10:50
varunendragoeo_, a clean install is a good and fast way to fix that :p10:50
Bashing-omgeorge2: //While one MAY attempt to restore, one will never know for sure - will always be a source of trouble ...I often see the recommendation to bite the bullet and (RE-)install.10:50
high_fivergoeo_, the only way to fix it10:50
varunendragoeo_, pressed 'Enter' accidentally, then also provided your sudo password accidentally? :D10:50
goeo_varunendra, I was root already10:51
varunendragoeo_, bad call. But like others (and I) mentioned. You can take a super-duper painful way to compare files on an existing installation, and set permissions manually, or just do a reinstall.10:52
ironwave2varunendra: cc -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer   -c -o conf.o conf.c   Is this an error?10:52
varunendraironwave2, an error should be reported with a prefix "Error:....."10:53
goeo_varunendra, backing up files now.10:53
ironwave2varunendra:  its done, the headers is done10:53
varunendraironwave2, now the critical part, this one may fail - "make" in the same terminal.10:54
chrirci tried ctrl alt f1 after suspend but nothing... after a while i noticed that mouse cursor disappears completely too10:56
Ironwavevarunendra:  errors all around, Conection also just went away10:56
Ironwavevarunendra: when I open my networks icon, I dont see My conection. I must disable conections, and enable it. then it works again10:58
varunendraIronwave, it (make) has nothing to do with connection. It is a process that takes place in that directory only. But its failure means the bug still exists.10:58
ironwave2varunendra:  errors all around\10:59
varunendraIronwave, so we have no backports option then. The bug (this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1342703) still prevails. :(11:00
ironwave2varunendra:  Im gona be afk for a wile. Thanks for the help so far. hope to see you again11:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1342703 in linux (Ubuntu) "Backports doesn't compile against 3.13.0-30" [Medium,Confirmed]11:00
varunendraironwave2, you may try posting a thread at ubuntuforums.org, and hope the best (chili555) picks it up himself.11:00
ironwave2varunendra:  ok. Thank you for the hard work!\11:01
varunendraironwave2, I'm very keen to find a promising fix for these cards/drivers myself :)11:02
ironwave2varunendra: Ill be sure to hang around11:02
varunendraironwave2, I rarely spend time here on IRC these days... kinda too busy. Forums is where I am more regular, at least comparatively. :)11:03
JNixxtest11:05
chrirci wonder...why is something like suspend so hard to work on ubuntu while for windows it's so trivial working out of the box?11:07
ironwave2varunendra:  I discovered and made a account with some forum just yesterday. Linuxquestions.org11:07
Abhijiti am getting error mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' for ubuntu 14.04 server iso while doing mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso /mnt/11:07
ironwave2varunendra:  I will seekout ubuntofoums.11:08
Abhijitthe md5 matches11:09
varunendrachrirc, probably only developers can give a logical and correct answer to that. My guess is that because the vendors keep changing BIOS/hardware all the time, while making sure their standards are compatible with windows.11:10
varunendrachrirc, by the way, your problem indeed sounds like a graphics card/driver issue.11:11
chrircbut i tried both the open source and nvidi driver and same probem11:13
Abhijiti am getting error mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' for ubuntu 14.04 server iso while doing mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso /mnt/11:16
Abhijitthe md5 matches11:16
varunendraAbhijit, could be a bug, does the man page for mount show iso9660 in "-t" options? Here on my 12.04 it does, as always.11:18
Abhijitvarunendra, was working with so many isos including this, before today.11:18
varunendraAbhijit, what does this show - "file <your iso>"11:19
Abhijitubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso: x86 boot sector11:20
OERIASI just ran out of toilet paper11:20
Abhijiti remember someone saying your nick in some channel today morning and then you getting kicked out.11:20
Abhijitwhat does this work mean?11:20
Abhijitword*11:20
Abhijitvarunendra, ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso: x86 boot sector11:21
varunendraAbhijit, mine here (for 14.04 desktop iso) says : ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64          ' (bootable)11:22
Abhijitok. let me redownload iso.11:22
varunendraAbhijit, try the torrent?11:22
Abhijityeah. always torrent only.11:22
Abhijitvarunendra, redownloaded. same output of file.11:26
Abhijitand error.11:26
varunendraAbhijit, are you on a desktop GUI now?11:27
Abhijitvarunendra, no. this is in ubuntu 14.04 vps11:27
varunendraAbhijit, apart from suspecting the ISO itself, no other ideas then. How did you download it so quickly? Loaded the same torrent with the same iso at target location?11:28
Abhijitvarunendra, vps has great speed11:29
Abhijitdownloaded new .torrent file11:29
ripthejackerHi guys, need help, I'm not able to resolve .local addresses11:29
varunendraAbhijit, from where?11:29
ripthejackerUbuntu cannot resolve local  host names.11:30
Abhijitvarunendra, ubuntu.com?11:30
varunendraAbhijit, ..and you also said it already passed MD5sum test. So possibly the source ISO itself is.... at least... *different* :/11:31
Abhijitthis iso is 14.04.1 which do not have md5 list on ubuntu.com the previous one was 14.04 and its md5 matched11:32
Abhijitvarunendra, ^11:32
varunendraAbhijit, what is the size of the downloaded iso by the way? (ls -lh <iso>)11:32
Abhijit573 MB varunendra11:32
ripthejackerPlease help11:33
OERIAShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIh2xe4jnpk11:43
OERIASWhy you gotta be so rude!11:43
advx_Hi all, Good Evening, and Have a great weekend11:45
paullushi, I have a question.  I recently bought an SD card for my laptop.  I can seem to see or mount the drive. When I type the following command: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog  --it does list an [sdb] device?11:45
QantouriscCan I install ubuntu without it trying to install the bootloader automatically ?11:47
OERIASSome send me the Ubuntu 7.10 CDs to wipe. I ran out of toilet paper11:47
john_ramboWhat command tells ufw to log everything (high) ?11:48
OERIASWhy gotta be so rude11:49
OERIASDon't you know i'm human too11:50
trijntjeQantourisc: yes, you can disable installing the bootloader11:50
OERIASmarry that girl11:50
Qantourisctrijntje: well i'd still like it to dump the /boot somewhere :p11:50
OERIASmary that girl we''l be your family11:50
Qantourisctrijntje: but not on a seperate partition automatically, also, grub install i'd like to do by hand11:50
Qantourisctrijntje: other installers have wiped my entire disk before ...11:50
trijntjeQantourisc: I don't understand what you are trying to do, do want to install grub or not?11:51
Qantourisctrijntje: by hand11:51
Qantourisctrijntje: I want to install ubunut on 1 partition, and it not touch anything else11:51
Bashing-omripthejacker: DNS issue ?  -> cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit <- and pass the resulting URL back here so we can see the contents.11:52
Qantourisctrijntje: otherwise it might start deleting partionts, resizing, screwing up boot sectors etc11:52
ripthejackerBashing-om, fixed it by installing avahi-daemon11:52
trijntjeQantourisc: it wont do that, but you can disable installing grub in or just after the partitioning screen in the installer11:52
paullusanyone know how to make ubuntu see an SD flash drive card?11:52
ripthejackerBashing-om, actually I'm using lubuntu and I assumed it must be installed by default, but that is not the case it seems.11:53
Qantourisctrijntje: ok good, disk is still empty, but reinstalling windows and the partitions is such a hassle :/11:53
Bashing-omripthejacker: :D11:53
QantouriscI'm downloading kubuntu and it says 32bit is recommended ? Are there issues with 46bit ubuntu ?11:53
trijntjeno, but you have to recommend something ;)11:54
Qantourisc:p11:54
streulmaUbuntu on a Mac, finally :)11:54
* Qantourisc ist still not sure why on a modern pc you are might want to install 32 bit :p11:54
Qantourisci haven't ran 32 bit linux is a decade by now i think :p11:54
Qantouriscwith 1 exception: vm hosts on a small memory budget11:55
ripthejackerBashing-om, thanks for replying, though :)11:55
pacotu11:56
pacoif I backported and installed a newer glib version, would that make serious harm to my system?11:57
izaberaguys i'm trying to install ubuntu in dual boot along with win8 but i'm getting this error from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7931763/11:58
izaberawhat do i do?11:59
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Bashing-omizabera: Is the 1st hard drive (sda) a data drive ? // I do not see a partion on the 3nd drive (sdb) for the ubuntu file system - sdb7 a data partition ?12:07
Bashing-om3nd/2nd *12:08
izaberai have only one drive with several partitions12:09
Bashing-omizabera: OK, " Disk /dev/sda: 4190 MB" is your ubuntu liveUSB, correct ?12:10
izaberayes correct12:11
Bashing-omizabera: "sdb7: ,12:13
izaberasdb7 is where i installed ubuntu12:13
klikokiloHi, I just started an EC2 instance with ubuntu 14.04, installed squid (apt-get install squid), squid is running however /etc/init.d doesn't show any squid files nor does service --status-all show any service with the name squid12:15
klikokiloany ideas what's up with that?12:15
Bashing-omizabera: "sdb7: , Operating System:  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS" indicates that I jumped the conclusion from "/dev/sdb7     821,850,112   936,588,393   114,738,282 Data partition (Linux)" // That what is required here is to (re-)install the EFI bootleader ?12:16
klikokilohmm after restarting server it's not running either12:16
ed0n0nhi there! I have an issue with a Sony Vaio laptop. It has a broken built-in keyboard, wich keeps some key pressed all the time and is causing a big problem. BIOS has no options for disabling, my only option is disabling it from grub, but i cant find the right code for doing so... can you help please?12:17
izaberaBashing-om: i installed ubuntu in sdb7 but had a problem with secure boot: whenever i reboot, my computer loads windows. now i've disabled that secure boot option and i'm running boot-repair from that live usb, but it still doesn't work and i don't know why12:18
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smabosheHello!12:21
smabosheI'm having trouble running "sudo do-release-upgrade". Is the "en_ZM" locale not supported for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? - https://gist.github.com/smaboshe/d51b102d8a678e0b98e212:22
Bashing-omizabera: Never encountered anything like what os at the end of boot-repair report ... // "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" Did you encrypt this partition ? or maybe you chose LVM when installing ? I am struggeling here to understand.12:34
Bashing-omos/is*12:34
izaberayes, if i recall correctly i encrypted sdb712:36
izaberais it a problem?12:36
izaberawould it work correctly if i format that partition and install it again without encryption? i have no important data there12:38
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klikokiloanyone on the service thing? there's a squid3.conf under /etc/init but service command keeps insisting there's no such service whether run from sudo -i, sudo su -, or from user with sudo service12:42
Bashing-omizabera: (re-)install may be one option .. I do not know how UEFI/Windows8/encryption work together. Let's await others to look and see what they think in this situation .. wiser heads here may prevail.12:42
izaberaBashing-om: thank you :)12:42
Bashing-omizabera: I will be intersested to see/learn ..12:43
jarekhi12:59
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svetlanayup hi12:59
Guest33902blabla13:00
svetlanait works13:00
nrdbI just install 14.04.1 and I am trying to configure it to run some VMs ... when I connect to it via 'Virtual Machine Manager' and try to add a VM I get the error message "Error: No hypervisor options where found for this connection"  the kvm module is running on the host... can anyone help?13:00
svetlananrdb, you have to enable kvm (virtualisation support) in bios on the server13:02
nikuzzaciao13:04
Molly22 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/USlwIc13:05
svetlananope13:05
svetlanause reddit instead13:05
nrdbsvetlana, I will reboot and look13:13
svetlanaok13:13
ed0n0nIU just disconnected the built in laptop keyboard and problem solved, thanks for your help13:14
nikuzzaciao13:15
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clinHi, How can I share files between two computers running ubuntu in my room.13:17
clinI have access to Internet on both machines, have lan wire too.13:18
svetlanaclin: you probably want to use samba13:20
nrdbsvetlana, I was unable to find any control on ether way13:20
svetlanano such switch in bios?13:20
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clinsvetlana: isn't samba needed when we want to share files from linux to windows? the two boxes are running ubuntu13:22
bekksclin: Between two linux computer, you may use NFS.13:22
bekks!nfs13:22
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.13:22
svetlana Samba is an implementation of the SMB/CIFS protocol for Unix systems,13:22
svetlana providing support for cross-platform file and printer sharing with13:22
svetlana Microsoft Windows, OS X, and other Unix systems.13:22
svetlanathe last 3 words are important13:22
subz3r0!ftp13:22
ubottuFTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd13:22
svetlanano, ftp is a pain to write to :)13:23
subz3r0not really :)13:23
bekksFTP deserves to be extincted with fire.13:23
Bashing-omclin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two Lubuntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .13:23
subz3r0not really :)13:24
subz3r0proftpd isnt that bad13:24
nrdbsvetlana, the /dev/kvm is owned by the kvm user13:24
clinsvetlana: totally get your point. but i think using samba'd be overkill.13:25
bong1clin: use a usb stick.13:26
clinBashing-om: Thanks for the link :) that seems really promising.13:27
Bashing-omclin: Works great !  .. best 1 for 'buntu 2 'buntu .13:27
samthewildonehttp://pastebin.com/Wk1YMa2Q13:29
samthewildoneHaving a problem compiling that application, not sure where to get the Qt5Widgets though13:29
LS1hi all, I keep having issues with PPTP VPN (VPN service not running error) and also OpenVPN (always times out). Any suggestions?13:30
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subz3r0pptp should not be used anymore.13:31
LS1subz3r0, yeah...that's mainly why I switched to OpenVPN and trying Password with TLS13:32
LS1subz3r0, can you think of any reason why my connections always timeout and never actually connect?13:32
subz3r0using passwords is also not a good idea. use a pki instead13:32
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subz3r0LS1: LAN? WAN? firewalls?13:33
LS1passwords with certificates (TLS) is the only think my provider supports I believe :(13:33
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LS1subz3r0, standard wifi at a home...no firewall...works just fine in Windows using same config13:33
subz3r0LS1: check this site: http://wiki.openvpn.eu/index.php/Hauptseite13:37
subz3r0dont find the english version atm13:37
subz3r0but just check the examples13:37
QantouriscWitch installer is "best" the cli or the gui ?13:37
svetlanawhichever you feel more comfortable with13:38
subz3r0depends on your taste13:38
svetlanait is subjective after all13:38
subz3r0i prefer cli13:38
Qantouriscsubz3r0: let me rephrase the question: are it differnt menus/wizars/choices ?13:39
jim2hello,i would like to set iptables into the stealth mode...is there any command that allows me to implement it ?13:39
Qantouriscjim2: "stealth mode" ?13:39
jim2yes13:40
subz3r0stealth mode?13:40
Qantourisci've used quite a bit of iptables, never heared of stealth mode13:40
Qantouriscwhat is it suppost to do ?13:40
jim2well13:40
jim2it masquaredes your ports13:40
jim2so that no one can see if you have any open port via port scan nmpa etc13:40
jim2nmap*13:40
subz3r0Qantourisc: not really. you can do the same. but i dont like the gui installer of 14.04. im missing a lot of functions. so i prerfer the net installer13:41
subz3r0lol13:41
Qantouriscjim2: set input policy to drop, and allow all estabilished or related connections13:42
subz3r0jim2: that does not work. an educated nmap user will even find that out13:42
Qantouriscjim2: wait you still wanted to be able to use the ports ?13:42
subz3r0but what youre searching for is also called "black hole"13:43
jim2yes13:43
subz3r0aka DROP13:43
jim2i basically want them invisible on the net13:43
Qantouriscjim2: well no way to both allow and not allow something :)13:43
subz3r0Qantourisc: wrong13:43
jim2well servers use that optin ...13:43
Qantouriscthe closest thing you have is port-nocking13:43
Qantouriscsubz3r0: ?13:43
SirLagzor whitelists if you know where you'll be coming from13:43
LS1subz3r0, sorry, got d/c ... still there?13:43
jim2i have stted rules13:44
Qantouriscsubz3r0: can you give an example ?13:44
subz3r0Qantourisc: its wrong. you can just allow different ip ranges and DROP the rest13:44
jim2escpecially 80 and 443 port13:44
Qantouriscsubz3r0: then you can still nmap from those ip's :)13:44
subz3r0jim2: like i told you. youre ports wont be "invisible"13:44
subz3r0since when a computer isnt online... the router before will give a ping reply back13:45
jim2unix.like systems have that optin13:45
jim2option*13:45
subz3r0jim2: i guess you dont understand the theory13:45
jim2what i do not understand particullarly?13:45
subz3r0you cannot hide your PC13:45
Qantourischmmm kubuntu or netinstall + remove unity add kde ?13:46
jim2yes13:46
jim2i hate unity13:46
jim2...13:46
subz3r0Qantourisc: netinstall does not need to remove anything. since you can choose what you want to install13:46
subz3r0DE, no DE. which DE etc..13:47
Qantouriscsubz3r0: well yes, but doesn't doe Kubunto do more work to make it "work/look" better then the default ubuntu ?13:47
subz3r0Qantourisc: depends on your taste. I dont like unity and the newer version of gnome anymore.13:48
SirLagzQantourisc: nothing installing the kubuntu-desktop meta-package won't fix13:48
QantouriscNot sure, since I persaonlly never use distros like ubuntu :)13:48
Qantouriscso ubunut net-install it is :p13:48
Qantouriscow13:48
Qantouriscbut doesnt that mean uninstall network-manager ?13:48
Qantouriscor does kde use that as backend these days ?13:48
Qantourisc(me normally uses arch/gentoo + xmonad :p)13:48
SirLagzQantourisc: no idea. I'm normally on Debian :P13:49
jim2i love gnome13:49
SirLagzmy xubuntu laptops still use networkmanager IIRC13:49
QantouriscSirLagz: yea, and i had to remove it to get wireless and vpn to work without crap :p13:49
SirLagzQantourisc: yep. never been a fan of networkmanager tbh13:50
Qantourisci'm not saying it's bad, but for some usescases atm it just plain doesn't work13:50
* Qantourisc download netinstall13:51
Qantouriscnothing you can't fix i suppose13:51
Qantourisc"dowload THE networkinstaller for 14.04" or "download network installer for 12.04"13:53
Qantourisc:p13:53
Qantourischttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads13:53
Qantouriscwell i'm not sure i want "a" network installer,i want THE installer :p13:53
subz3r0jim2: http://pastebin.com/SQpxx79A13:54
subz3r0iptables example...13:54
jim2well subz3ro i managed to get that in windows vista..13:54
Qantouriscow netboot installer13:54
Qantouriscnot net-download-installer like debian :p13:54
koellWhat happened with the package "fuse-utils"? I can't find it anymore in the package sources. Lubuntu 14.04 LTS13:55
subz3r0fuse-emulator-utils13:55
subz3r0this one?13:55
koellidk xD13:55
subz3r0dito :D13:56
koellis there no  clicki-way to mount a nfs-share in pcmanfm?13:56
Qantouriscare the ubunut cd's usb-stick compatible ?13:57
Qantouriscnvm internet :)13:57
subz3r0Qantourisc: they are hybrid isos13:57
subz3r0so yes13:57
subz3r0you can dd em13:57
Qantouriscnice13:57
Qantouriscsubz3r0: i use cat :)13:57
subz3r0dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M13:58
Qantouriscsubz3r0: cat /iso > /dev ?13:58
subz3r0no idea if that works13:58
subz3r0try it and let us know13:58
Qantouriscsubz3r0: it does :)13:58
Bashing-omQantourisc: Nother thought for an install : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD , and build what you want.13:58
Qantouriscow THERE is the dl i wanted :p13:59
Travessusshi everyone14:07
yz3pD!ask14:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:07
QantouriscOk the partition tools is going totoally bazoonkas on me14:09
QantouriscIs there a way to entirely skip the partition tool, and just indicate / mount them manually ?14:10
hylianis the black box window manager dead (not being developed), the wiki hasn't been updated in 8 years..??14:11
Qantourischylian: probably still works as perfect as 8 years ago anyway :p14:12
saleemhi, which of the trusty kernel provide aufs support ? can somebody please point it out to me?14:12
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hylianQantourisc: it didn't work all that well 8 years ago. ;)14:13
Qantouriscow ok :)14:13
Qantouriscwhat gpt editors are available during cli installer ?14:14
hylianQantourisc: it's lightweight, and semi flexible, but openbox beats it hands down. I'd love to see blackbox give openbox a run for there money.14:14
QantouriscOMG14:17
Qantouriscthe partioning tool is reading out the old removed GPT table !!!14:17
hylianso no one knows if blackbox is no longer developed? I couldn't find any official document saying that. my educated guess is yes, but I would love an official yes...14:19
kostkonhylian, their irc is here http://tiny.cc/backbox-irc14:20
Daekdroomkostkon, I think you're mistaking Blackbox (the windowmanager) for something else.14:22
kostkonDaekdroom, yeah, i guess it's 50/50, either the wm or that ubuntu based distro14:23
Daekdroomkostkon, ...? They're not even spelled the same way.14:23
kostkonDaekdroom, lol. you are right14:23
DaekdroomBlackbox's last release was 2005, anyway. That's way too long for it to be under development.14:23
DaekdroomEnlightenment went so many years without a new release, but there was actual news about its development, which does not seem to be the case with Blackbox.14:24
hylianDaekdroom: I would agree, hence my "educated guess" that it is not under development. I was just hopeing for some official word to that affect. well. I will leave it at that.14:25
iamwhoiamblackbox, acoording to wikipedia, is no longer under development14:26
decciHi14:26
hylianhello decci14:26
iamwhoiamaccording*14:26
decciI want to create a DEB package, to make a list of software install-able via `apt-get install my-package`.   It would include: - Sone dependencies like build-essential - NVM (https://github.com/creationix/nvm) - Node.js installed via NVM (the v0.11.13) - PM2 (https://github.com/Unitech/pm2)14:26
hylianiamwhoiam: ohh, thanks! I didn't see that. that's the nail in the coffin I was looking for.14:26
deccihylian: Any idea what tool and steps or doc can help me achieve this14:26
hyliandecci: achieve what?14:27
deccihylian: creating a DEB package(read above)14:27
hyliandecci: i see. I am confused as to what you are trying to accomplish exactly...14:27
iamwhoiamhylian: np.14:28
deccihylian: If I say apt-get install mypackage it should get Sone dependencies like build-essential - NVM (https://github.com/creationix/nvm) - Node.js installed via NVM (the v0.11.13) - PM2 (https://github.com/Unitech/pm2) installed14:28
jim2i found out14:28
jim2YEAH14:28
jim2WOHOO14:28
jim2i stealthed my ports14:28
jim2yes14:28
subz3r0found what?14:28
deccihylian: Heard about grunt14:28
hyliandecci: so what you want is the build dependencies for package X?14:28
subz3r0ahh, yes... so let us know, too14:29
deccihylian: https://www.odesk.com/leaving-odesk?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npmjs.org%2Fpackage%2Fgrunt-debian-package14:29
jim2i used a port scanner14:29
jim2and it only found port 80 which i set open14:29
deccihylian: sorry this is the right one https://www.npmjs.org/package/grunt-debian-package14:29
jim2your link helped me seubz14:29
subz3r0link?14:29
subz3r0the pastebin?14:29
jim2yees14:29
Qantouriscjim2: ... so not stealthed ?14:29
deccihylian: thinking that if I can do it myself14:30
subz3r0jim2: i wrote that example in iptables...14:30
Qantouriscjim2: just bloked all other ports that happend to be listing ?14:30
jim2i guess they are stealthed14:30
deccihylian: u there?14:30
subz3r0jim2: okay, now use different scan techniquies. -sSV -sAV etc..14:31
subz3r0techniques14:31
jim2ok14:31
hyliandecci: ok  i think i am getting it now. you want to make a deb using grunt, and want to either make sure all the dependencies have been met or you want to include them so they will be?14:31
deccihylian: Yes I want build dependencies for Package X14:31
subz3r0the example that i made for you is a basic statefull firewall14:31
deccihylian: Yes14:31
jim2well14:31
jim2i searched the web too14:31
subz3r0jim2: so show us the iptables rules to use "stealth" mode.14:32
subz3r0we are curious14:32
hyliandecci: sorry, never made deb's before. i wouldn't know where to begin. atleast i Understand it... let me do a little research.. maybe i'll get lucky.14:32
jim2i set14:33
deccihylian: ok great14:33
jim2a lot of ports to deny14:33
jim2they were on reject i dunno14:33
subz3r0show us the rules...14:33
jim2i just typed the number of the port and deny14:34
jim2nothing else14:34
jim2but apparently nmap didnt found them closed or open14:35
loulanhi.14:37
hyliandecci: i need to take my rat terrier out for a walk to relieve his bodily functions. I think the short answer would be a) if you programmed this software, what libraries did you use to make it? b) if you didn't, does the creator(s) have a list of libs they used? Those should be the bulk of any needed dependencies.14:37
loulanI'm trying to upgrade from quantal, because it's not supported anymore and I can't fetch packages anymore. But to do a do-release-upgrade, I need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, and that fails because quantal isn't supported anymore.14:38
loulanit can't fetch the packages14:38
loulanhalp14:38
hyliangotta go guys, rat terrier error number 2 in biomass control valve 8. :)14:38
xangualoulan: loulan you want to upgrade from quantal to raring and then to saucy and finaly trusty? A clean install would be faster14:39
loulanxangua: yeah but it's on a server at work that isn't mine with lots of stuff on it14:40
loulanI can't really do that, I'd like to try the upgrades first14:40
loulaneven if it's a bit complicated14:40
loulanespecially since I don't have physical access to the machine14:40
xangua!eol | loulan either upgrade or clean install backups are always good idea14:42
ubottuloulan either upgrade or clean install backups are always good idea: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:42
QantouriscCan I get a usefull output from grub-installer other the "failed" ?14:50
Qantouriscit's tryint to install it on the USB stick oO14:51
QantouriscCan I jank the usb stick from the minmalinstaation ?14:53
fridaynextanyone know a good tutorial for setting up an NFS share on 14.04 to a 10.9 OSX client?14:56
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benccin the .profile file, how can I try to execute a script only if it exists without failing if it's missing?15:03
benccI currently have ". bin/activate"15:03
golferoiv installed libre office from torrent, now how i can install it in my computer?15:03
golferoi mean downloaded from torrent15:03
subz3r0if else and -e15:03
manishbencc: i think " -f test " is what you're looking for here15:03
benccmanish: how do I use it?15:04
Elizabeth22 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1qDj42x15:04
golferoso how do i install libre office in my ubuntu15:05
golferohelp anyone?15:05
subz3r0golfero: you dont have to download it15:05
golferoin downloaded it from torrent15:06
golferonow how i can install it.. i see lots of files in a folder called debian15:06
manishbencc: if [ -f /path/to/file ]; # this returns true if that file exists # check 'man bash'15:06
subz3r0sudo apt-get install libreoffice15:06
xanguagolfero: libreoffice is already in ubuntu15:06
golferoxangua,  installed ubuntu withouut libre office15:06
subz3r0sudo apt-get install libreoffice15:06
benccmanish: thanks15:06
golferosubz3r0,  ok hold on let me put that command15:07
abadayis there a could channel to ask about hardware and building computers?15:08
abadayby could i mean good15:08
golferosubz3r0,  i think its downloading libreoffice15:09
golferobut iv libreoffice in my computer15:09
golferodamn15:09
decciWe have 1 linux server with 80GB HDD and 2 GB RAM, we have cpanel/whm installed on it. Is it possible to configure exim for sending 50,000 mails per hour speed.15:09
Qantourischow do i go from "recovery" (user-menu for doing crap that can't posibly fix my problem) to the actual command-line mode (bash/sh) to fix it15:09
Qantouriscnvm "root" :p15:10
Qantouriscwas hidden in the rest15:10
MonkeyDustdecci  50.000 mails per hour? that's a lot!15:11
MonkeyDusti hope they are interesting and useful15:12
decciMonkeyDust: Yes15:13
decciMonkeyDust: Is it possible?15:13
QantouriscMonkeyDust: sending mails at 1/5 of the mainline frequency :D15:13
Qantouriscgiving you 72ms to proccess each mail :)15:14
fridayne_i'm trying to connect to my NFS share from OSX, but I keep getting the message 'There was a problem connecting to the server'15:14
fridayne_Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?15:14
fridayne_I did a port scan, and it appears 2049 is open for 'nfsd'15:14
Qantouriscfridayne_: try mounting using cli, it might actually produce an error message that is helpfull15:15
Qantouriscor check logs15:15
lidentreeHi.  I have an ancient laptop that I want to use as an ltsp client off a Ubuntu server.  It does not have a boot off of NIC option and it does not have a working CD drive.  I was wondering if I could get ubuntu (or linux) to boot "just enough" to load the network driver for the card and then seek out the boot through the network.  I would need it to be booting off the hard drive for tis.15:15
fridayne_Qantourisc: now I get 'mount_nfs: could not parse file system specification'15:15
Qantourischttps://superuser.com/questions/414937/mount-nfs-on-a-mac-could-not-parse-file-system-specification15:16
fridayne_yeah, just saw that15:16
Qantourisc:p15:16
fridayne_and when i add the colon - "mount_nfs: can't mount /media/raid/iPhoto from 192.168.0.100 onto /Volumes/iPhoto: Operation not permitted"15:16
fridayne_i wish it were more descriptive than that.15:16
Qantouriscfridayne_: can you mount it on the server ?15:17
fridayne_Qantourisc: I think I already did... how do I check that?15:17
matty_rI'm trying to figure out why my Wifi drops out every hour and asks for the password again.. Its a Broadcom BCM4313.15:19
Qantouriscfridayne_: just ntfs mount it on the server ?15:20
Qantouriscthis way you "verify" your ntfsexport is atleady somewhat correct15:20
hoechtshi, I have a raid5 and one of my disks failed. I removed it but now the raid cant be assembled anymore because he says "assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array". I checked in gparted if the disks are available and they are. Any hints?15:20
QantouriscI fergot to mount /boot15:21
Qantouriscnow i need to rerun dpkg-configure15:21
QantouriscI have however no clue wich one creates a new gfxbacklist and an initram15:21
fridayne_well, when i run 'df', none of the mounts show up15:22
fridayne_not sure if they would be in there...15:22
Qantouriscfound blacklist now initramfs15:23
Qantouriscfridayne_: sure they would be15:23
Qantouriscif it's mounted it's there15:23
Qantourisc(unless messing with lazt unmounts)15:23
cinmayHi. I have the weirdest network error. My wifi and router stopped working and I got a replacement. My computer came online again without any problems but my kids computer won't connect. I tried various debugging, different cables etc but it just could not get a ip address. Then I set a static IP and The weirdest thing happened. I can connect between my computers just fine. But from my kids computer I can not ping the gateway. I have seen some crazy networki15:31
cinmayng issues in my time but this is the strangest thing ever. I'm all out of ideas.15:31
john2xI'm trying to setup NFS on my local server, but I'm having some issues. Found this answer on SO http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23037893/permission-denied-with-mounting-nfs-with-webmin-mac-osx-ubuntu-setup. So to mount an NFS dir, the user id on my client (OS X) has to match the user id of the server?15:31
matty_rWhats a command to get some verbose information about my wifi adapter?15:33
subz3r0iwconfig15:34
subz3r0dmesg15:34
subz3r0lsusb15:34
subz3r0lspic15:34
subz3r0lspci15:34
GroundControlhello15:40
MangledBluehello15:41
GroundControlyesterday I had an update about the new skype...but it doesn't start15:41
GroundControlI tried to delete the folder .skype...but nothing help15:41
MangledBluesorry - I'm a noob - just getting started w/ ubuntu15:41
MangledBluejust found this place15:42
GroundControlthanks the same Mangle15:42
GroundControl:)15:42
MangledBluebeen going over some tutorials15:42
GroundControl:)15:42
MangledBluewhat cmd are you using to delete?15:42
GroundControlI did it in graphical mode15:43
GroundControlI mean I didn't use the terminal15:43
MangledBlueoh - thats what I am trying to learn - the term15:44
MangledBlueI think in the term it's     rm -i filenaem15:44
GroundControlwhat do you want to learn about the use of the terminal?15:44
MangledBlueeverything15:44
MangledBlueI need to learn it because I'm into crypto-currency15:45
MangledBluelong story15:45
GroundControlI use this cmd " rm -rf path of the file15:46
GroundControlwithout "15:46
MangledBluefor me to setup a MasterNode for DarkCoin - I need to use term15:46
GroundControlI see15:47
MangledBluewhat does the -rf do?15:47
safridzalrecursive force i think15:48
MangledBlueI found this: rm filename --- removes a file. It is wise to use the option rm -i, which will ask you for confirmation before actually deleting anything.15:48
MangledBlueI remember seeing something like that15:48
kendrickwhat daemons does ubuntu server have on it?15:48
GroundControlyou can find many things opening your terminal and writing man rm15:49
MangledBluetry this: rmdir    Remove folder(s)   so:   rm -i filename15:50
MangledBlueoops15:50
MangledBluermdir -i filename15:51
GroundControlI see15:51
GroundControlthanks for your advices15:51
kendrickhow do I get openssh server, lamp server, and samba server?15:51
MangledBluedo what I can - but - still a noob - lol15:51
GroundControleheh15:51
Geokendrick: 'apt-cache search bla' for those terms is a good way to start15:52
potato_farmerkendrick, your best bet is to google how to install each one, there are tons of tutorials online15:52
hoechtscan someone please help me with my degraded raid5? ;(15:52
MangledBluetype ssh into the terminal and see what happens15:52
Geoyou'll get a lot of repsonses, but you can see what your options are15:52
VibranceUbuntu 14.04: Trying to use sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, but nano reports: "[ Read 1933 lines (Warning: No write permission)" Any idea why?15:52
ubuntu-studioexit15:52
Geoyou can use apt-get install bla   to then install what you want15:52
GroundControlvibrance maybe you don't have the permission to read that file15:53
GroundControlfolks I habve to leave15:54
GroundControlthanks everybody15:54
GroundControlbye mangle15:54
VibranceGroundControl: Wouldn't sudo bypass that?15:55
potato_farmerVibrance, what are the permissions of the file? Does root have access to write to it?15:55
Vibrance-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70051 Jul 27 14:39 php.ini15:55
potato_farmerVibrance, Is your root filesystem mounted read/write?15:56
TJ-Vibrance: Probably because nano is trying to create a backup-file ("/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini~"); what are the permissions on the directory "ls -ld /etc/php5/apache2" ?16:00
* guest-orVTj7 hops16:01
apeshtop is showing my cpus spending a lot of time in kernel threads, but none of the kernel threads are reporting any significant cpu usage. Anyone have a thought as to what may be going on?16:01
guest-orVTj7hahahaa16:02
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VibranceChecking the above now16:03
Abhijithi. i copy pasted .ssh from fedora to ubuntu. and now it gives public key denied error? how come?16:03
Abhijithelp16:03
potato_farmerAbhijit, did you overwrite an existing key?16:03
maddawg2cuz the public key doesnt match Abhijit16:04
Abhijitpotato_farmer, no. i backed it up first.16:04
Abhijitpotato_farmer, mv .ssh to sshbk16:04
maddawg2why did you copy over the .ssh?16:04
Abhijitpotato_farmer, then i cp pen drive .ssh to /home/username/16:04
Abhijitmaddawg2, i want to acces that vps from another laptop?16:04
VibranceTJ-: ls -ld on /etc/php5/apache2: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 27 17:07 .16:04
potato_farmermaddawg2 asked a great question, why did you copy it over?16:04
potato_farmerVibrance, Is your root filesystem mounted read/write?16:05
maddawg2you can access it from any computer16:05
Abhijitpotato_farmer, ok. how do i access my vps from another laptop? that vps has my ssh key added to authorized keys from first laptop.16:05
maddawg2or SHOULD be able to16:05
john0312@Abhijit: check if the owner of .ssh is yourself, if it's not, chown -R it.16:05
Abhijitmaddawg2, potato_farmer its key based login only. no password16:05
potato_farmerAbhijit, you'll need to generate new keys, and copy the public to the vps16:05
maddawg2ok breakfast time16:06
Vibrancepotato_farmer: Unsure to be honest, how can I check?16:06
potato_farmerVibrance, type: mount16:07
Abhijitpotato_farmer, so if i have ten work computers, i have to maintain 10 ssh keys?16:07
potato_farmerWhat are the results for the / filesystem16:07
potato_farmerYou don't have to maintain anything Abhijit. You generate a key pair for each machine and copy the public to the authorize file on the system into which you intend to log in.16:08
Vibrance-  /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=0)16:08
potato_farmerVibrance, does this command work? touch /etc/php5/apache2/testfile.txt16:09
TJ-Vibrance: Now check in the kernel's table: "grep xvda1 /proc/mounts"16:10
Vibrancepotato_farmer: The command worked and the file now exists in that directory16:11
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VibranceTJ-: Result of that command: /dev/xvda1 / ext3 rw,noatime,nobarrier,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 016:11
potato_farmerVibrance, is anyone else editing the file already? Another user, or is it open in another terminal?16:11
VibranceDefinitely not, I created the server from a saved image about 10 minutes ago16:12
VibranceNo one else would know the IP or even have the private key16:12
potato_farmerdoes this show anything: getfacl php.ini ?16:12
matty_rI was messing around with my wifi trying to get it to work properly and then suddenly, all of my networks are gone16:13
matty_rthe router restart for whatever reason...16:14
matty_rstupid coincidence16:14
Vibrancepotato_farmer: The output of getfacl php.ini:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7934563/16:14
MirzaIs Ubuntu 14 will load in to Mac Pro as operating system and detect all hardware and driver16:15
potato_farmerVibrance, try to more tests. 1) What are the permissions for /root, and 2) can you open the file in another editor? Like vi?16:16
VibrancePermissions for /root: drwx------ 4 root root 4096 Jul 27 16:4316:17
VibranceOpened in vi: ""/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini" [readonly] "16:17
MirzaAny one please tell me if Ubuntu 14 will work in Mac Pro and detect all drivers16:18
potato_farmerHow about lsattr php.ini16:19
Vibrance----i----------- php.ini16:19
potato_farmerMirza, you can just install VirtualBox and install Ubuntu in it. Best of both worlds. But I don't know about the drivers question.16:19
potato_farmerVibrance, try: chattr -i php.ini16:20
ses1984i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i716:21
potato_farmerThen try to edit it again.16:21
VibranceWorked!16:21
VibranceWhat exactly did that do?16:21
potato_farmerVibrance, not sure why your file was set to immutable (cannot be modified)16:22
TJ-Vibrance: immutable flag was set, somehow. Have you been running any non-maintainer scripts in configuring PHP ?16:22
potato_farmerIs another process supposed to control php settings? Really strange.16:22
VibranceI've been running through an absolute ton of security documentation for servers so maybe something along the way locked it down16:23
potato_farmerAre you deploying openstack?16:24
VibranceNope16:26
VibranceThanks for the help though, that's awesome16:26
potato_farmeryw16:26
quantum_entanglehey anybody here willing to help with a problem?16:30
Qantourischowmuch room does /boot need ?16:32
quantum_entangleEverytime I try to install the Nvidia binary driver trough the Software & Updates it stalls and doesn't seem to be downloading anything past the 1/5th point on the progress bar16:33
quantum_entangledoes anybody know if it's possible to run Software & Updates trough the terminal?16:34
TJ-Qantourisc: I usually allow it 512MB, and I'm busy testing kernels16:34
QantouriscTJ-: i mean for not-testing kernels :) (du -ch /boot)16:34
QantouriscTJ-: allocated 64MB16:35
MonkeyDustquantum_entangle  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade16:35
Qantouriscseems not to be enough :p16:35
TJ-Qantourisc: make it 512MB and you won't run into problems as older kernels build up in there16:35
QantouriscTJ-: kinda hard to move stuff around now :p16:35
QantouriscTJ-: does ubuntu care if /boot is a seperate partition ?16:36
Qantouriscotherwise i'll just throw them inthere16:36
matty_rSo i've got a Broadcom BCM4314 running on the non-proprietary drivers and it connects fine but after an hour *BAM* connection drops and I have to re-enter my password. Heres a link to the output of the script that shows troubleshooting information. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7934703/16:36
TJ-Qantourisc: no, it can be part of the root file-system16:36
QantouriscTJ-: thanks, i'll have to move it then :p16:37
quantum_entangleHey, is synaptic still useable on the new ubuntu interface?16:39
quantum_entangleapt-get synaptic or something like that?16:39
xangua !info synaptic | quantum_entangle16:40
ubottuquantum_entangle: synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.81.1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1329 kB, installed size 7650 kB16:40
Vampire-Billquestion for other amd built in video users 14.04, I am running 4 gigs ram 1 to video 3 to system will adding another 4 gigs to system make a difference or upgrade to a ssd16:41
quantum_entangle@xangua : thanks16:42
matty_rVampire-Bill; depends on what you're doing with the machine. SSD is always great through16:42
potato_farmerVampire-Bill, if your system swaps, add more ram, if not, get ssd, best: both16:42
Vampire-Billmatty_r: and potato_farmer: thank you16:43
MagicSpudhey why the empty recent documents is gone from the recent documents tab?16:43
matty_rHey potato-farmer .. is MagicSpud one of yours?16:44
potato_farmermatty_r, nope16:44
potato_farmerjust this one16:44
matty_rI meant one of the potatos you farmed16:45
matty_rlol16:45
MagicSpudlol16:45
matty_rtough crowd huh16:46
MagicSpudhey this spud is magic I dont need a farmer16:47
potato_farmer:)16:47
matty_rgood attitude16:47
potato_farmerone disadvantage of this handle is that I seem to always crave fries16:48
matty_rdamn.. now I do to16:48
MagicSpudnor monsanto's experiments of course16:48
MagicSpudhey does anybody know something about the recent documents issue16:49
MagicSpud?16:49
MagicSpudI used to have an option to clear them16:49
MagicSpudbut it is gone16:49
matty_rNah, sorry mate16:50
hoechtsHi, i still need help with my raid5. I have probably crashed it, but maybe someone can help me to reassemble it?16:50
ses1984i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i716:50
wheatthinso where to start to hunt for a reason why this server box would freeze?16:51
BarnabasDKses1984, you are using an amd64 install on your i7 right?16:52
matty_rhoechts: Put up your details of your problem, someone might be able to help.16:52
quantum_entangle@wheatthin do you log it's activities?16:52
wheatthinquantum_entangle, I'm sure somewhere.. I dunno what would cause it.16:53
macproyeahhello,i have a macbookpro with ubuntu installed...does this make me a creative person?16:53
quantum_entanglekinda hard to tell without logs16:53
wheatthinI was out for a little while, and came back to a frozen box16:53
clark__hi all, how to remove a apt-get package completely? Can I somehow inspect what files apt-get create and remove them by hand ?16:53
wheatthinmacproyeah, that's not a technical support question. #ubuntu-offtopic16:54
wheatthinand they'll give you a whirl16:54
macproyeahwhy?16:54
macproyeahthey told me that macbooks are oly for smart people16:54
the[void] hey guys what would the reccomended method be "clone"  my system drive that is currently on an ext4 fs  so i can re-install it on an ext3 fs?16:54
wheatthinstop trolling.16:54
macproyeahi am not trolling16:54
macproyeahi swear16:54
macproyeahi am telling the truth16:55
quantum_entangleso go ask on the other channel. :)16:55
macproyeahbut i didnt have a place to ask so i asked here in ubuntu16:55
wheatthinwell don't16:55
rawrmonsterIs there some way to increase battery life? I have tried tlp, Thermald, intel p_state none of them really helped much16:55
macproyeahplease i will leave16:55
macproyeahi just wanna know16:55
wheatthinrawrmonster, you can find that brightness settings n stuff can help, or setting to hybernate if you aren't needing it constantly on16:56
wheatthinmacproyeah, then search google friend.16:56
macproyeahok16:56
macproyeahi will search16:56
ses1984BarnabasDK: yes16:58
Beldarrawrmonster, A longer life battery with a higher mih I think its called is your best response16:59
rawrmonsterBeldar: How can I find out if there are batterys that are better for longer life?16:59
TJ-rawrmonster: battery life depends on how you use the PC, mostly17:00
Beldarrawrmonster, easy to find on the web that is what I did.17:00
nikolamRight click on link - open in new tab in Firefox, does not work every other time. It started doing that in recent Firefox update (Xubuntu 64bit 14.04.2)17:01
rawrmonsterTJ-: I mostly just browse the web when i am unplugged. all of the intensive stuff I am plugged in17:01
TJ-rawrmonster: Ahhh, there's your problem...17:01
rawrmonsterTJ-: and i only get 2:30-3 Hours17:01
TJ-rawrmonster: ... you're supposed to plug the PC in, not you :p17:01
nikolampardon lsb_release -id saying 14.04.117:02
BarnabasDKrawrmonster, my laptop gives me a max of 30 mins, so you seem fortunate17:02
Beldarrawrmonster, For 40$ us I bought a battery for my aceraspire that is a 12 hr battery.17:03
BeldarUS*17:03
rawrmonsterBeldar: hmm I am going to check that out then :D17:03
TJ-rawrmonster: Is the battery life markedly more than that in the manufacturer's specifications, or when using, say, Windows instead?17:03
rawrmonsterTJ-: It was rated at 4-5 hours. So its not badly off17:04
Beldarrawrmonster, This is an older netbook so depends I think on the age and probably how common a battery might be17:04
Beldarage of computer that is17:04
TJ-rawrmonster: Even with a so-called 'stamina' battery (which are larger and have more cells), if the power draw of the PC is quite high anyway, it won't improve life too dramatically17:05
rawrmonsterBeldar: this laptop is about a year old17:05
TJ-rawrmonster: what make/model is it?17:05
rawrmonsterTJ-: system76 i7 2.4Ghz17:05
wheatthindepending on the cpu and other hardware, it will vary17:05
wheatthini7's are power houses with lower voltage.. but yeah that'll be rough with quad core & hyperthreading17:06
Beldarrawrmonster, I would suspect it will more costly My guess is how many models out x how many batteries being bought in a general free market pricing movement.17:06
TJ-rawrmonster: which model? the web-site lists the laptops by names?17:06
rawrmonsterTJ-: its not in the current line up panp917:07
autonomoidHi folks can someone explain why Ubuntu always has a connection to Canonical opened by ubuntu-geoip?17:08
TJ-rawrmonster: "Pangolin" ?17:08
clark__I try to install aide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileIntegrityAIDE but I think I mess something up during the install process, now I try to start over again but something changed on my system and I can't figure out what17:08
autonomoid12.0417:08
rawrmonsterTJ-: yea17:08
clark__non of the commands here seems to help http://askubuntu.com/questions/151941/how-can-you-completely-remove-a-package/151943#15194317:09
clark__what to do ?17:09
rawrmonsterWill an ssd help battery life a good bit?17:10
TJ-rawrmonster: this one? https://web.archive.org/web/20120807061734/https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/panp917:10
quantum_entanglehow can I enter tty interface? it used to be ctrl+alt+f1 but that ain't doing nothin'17:10
rawrmonsterTJ-: yea thats it17:11
Bashing-omquantum_entangle: Try as : ctl+alt+t .....17:12
nikolamLaunchapad just gave me 'timout error' instead of displaying bug database search result. After that next search was working.17:12
quantum_entanglealso, does 'service lightdm stop' still work or will it do nothing for me?17:12
Bashing-omquantum_entangle: Try as " sudo service lightdm stop" If you are in a unity DE .17:13
RMCHDbest email client for gahhnuu/loonix?17:13
quantum_entangleI was going to sudo -s instead17:13
OerHeksRMCHD, there is no single best.17:14
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RMCHDOerHeks: i've been using Geary, love the interface17:15
TJ-rawrmonster: I'm surprised at System76, no-where do they specify power-draw or anticipated battery life17:17
quantum_entanglehmm so ctrl+alt+t did nothing17:17
quantum_entangleguess ill just have to log out and not log into unity intetrface, no other option for manually installing the nvidia drivers17:18
bipulI am running ubuntu 12.04 and it's so slow.17:21
Eldunartry other desktop enviroments : XFCE LXQT ( those are faster017:22
bipulEldunar, how?17:23
nikolambipolar, how much RAM do you have, what is slow, how good HD is and what graphics/driver you use. Why not 14.04 , it is also LTS?17:23
Bashing-ombipul: Do you have the horse power to support the high ebd edition of 'buntu that is 'ubuntu' ? maybe try a lighter version of 'buntu ?17:23
Beldarbipul, Help if you let the channel know some basic hardware info, chip, ram and graphic info.17:23
nikolambipolar, use xubuntu instead as recommendation.17:23
quantum_entangleok so theres no way to enter teletype interface in the unity generation ubuntu?17:23
Eldunaru can reinstall whole system and install XUBUNTU 14.04 Lubuntu 14.2417:23
bipulOK.17:23
Eldunaror jjust type17:24
Eldunarsudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop17:24
Eldunaror17:24
Eldunarsudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop17:24
Eldunarafter that change your desktop enviroment in logon screen. after relog17:24
BeldarEldunar, Please look a little close at the users set up rather that just advising.17:25
TJ-rawrmonster: I'd do two things. First, I'd check the current battery state.  It is possible it's 'charge_full' is now a lot less than its  'charge_full_design'. I'd also look at the 'current' draw. You can do that with "for n in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/*; do [ -r $n ] && echo "$n = $(cat $n)"; done "17:25
rawrmonsterTJ-: battery life shows 96%17:26
rawrmonsterTJ-: is 4400mAh to 5200mAh a big jump?17:28
cry0g3nnot much...17:28
cry0g3nbut yeah...17:28
fwlugAnyone able to use skype right now?  (Or is it a system wide problem?)17:29
fwlug(Unable to login right now.)17:29
fwlug"connection error"17:31
TJ-rawrmonster: 4.4 Amps per Hour, so if the PC draws 1.2 amps the battery will last around 3 hours17:31
TJ-rawrmonster: So 5.2 Amps would maybe give an extra hour.17:32
fwlugWondering if it is something with Ubuntu or maybe my ISP or....?17:32
bipulPlease see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7935074/ and let me know, why my ubuntu is slow.17:32
OerHeksfwlug, works here, skype 4.3 update 1-8-201417:33
fwlugOerHeks: Ok, maybe it is my ISP.  Thanks...17:33
fwlug(Just tried two computers here... so...)17:33
TJ-rawrmonster: most power-saving can be done by lowering backlight, configuring devices to auto-power-save (use powertop to help analyse and change the tunables there), not having devices with active radios using their full power, and using powertop, trying to reduce the number of wakeups (from sleep) per second17:33
daftykinsfwlug: two with the same OS and outdated client? :P17:34
OerHeksfwlug, if you keep this problem, reset your router can do some magic sometimes17:34
nikolamSuddenly, opening HTTP pages on browser on LAN (Where Ubuntu computer is used as Wireless client/local gateway) is very very slow. Maybe it is provider, maybe it is Ubuntu?17:34
fwlugdaftykins: One is 4.2 another has 4.317:34
rollingpingwhat this will be in 14.04 : http://72sq.com/news/%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%A9-%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%AA-%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87-%D9%88-%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AE-%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%BA17:34
rollingpingsorry17:34
daftykinsfwlug: try a clean account to test17:34
daftykinsfwlug: user account, that is17:35
rollingpingwhat this will be in 14.04 : grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda17:35
fwlugdaftykins: Actually, tried 3, (my daughter tried next door too).17:35
tete_hi, i wanted to get nginx 1.7 work on trusty and followed the tutorial http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html but it still displays 1.4 in apt-cache show. http://pastebin.com/YCsJz08r can someone help me?17:35
fwlugdaftykins: Yes, tried 3 different accounts.17:35
Beldarrollingping, grub commands do not change17:35
daftykinsfwlug: i said user accounts17:35
daftykinsfwlug: not skype accounts17:35
fwlugBut... next door (at my daughter's), is going through my router...17:36
rollingpingBeldar : I see no "--root-directory" in grub man in 14.0417:36
fwlugdaftykins: 4 separate computers, 3 separate (skype) accounts17:36
Beldarrollingping, I know grub well and don't recognize that command, not sure it's use.17:37
daftykinsfwlug: yes but... *sigh* my idea is to reset the skype software by creating a clean user account to run it with as if for the first time :)17:37
fwlugdaftykins: It is an interesting problem.17:37
rollingpingBeldar: ok solved it work nice. thanks17:37
Beldarrollingping, What does that command do, and why would you need it?17:38
fwlugdaftykins: I'm thinking it may be something going on with my ISP17:38
daftykinsfwlug: tried hardcoding google DNS, for if your ISP's is broken?17:38
Beldarrollingping, Looks like the load the mbr without a chroot from a live command, this does not alwyas work is all.17:39
fwlugdaftykins: One of the computers I tried from uses 8.8.8.817:40
rollingpingBeldar: it's to repair grub and its MBR. http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm17:40
tete_got it working with apt-get install nginx=1.7.3-1~trusty17:40
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abadayis there a good channel to ask about hardware and building computers?17:40
phakohas anyone ever encountered the system freezing while dpkg is configuring packages during updates?17:41
Beldarrollingping, AS I figured, however you want to know how to chroot, manually boot grub, or just use supergrub to get in and do it from the OS's cli.17:41
fwlugdaftykins: ... but I doubt that domain name resolution could have anything to do with it.17:41
TJ-Beldar: grub v1's "grub-install" has "--root-directory", its equivalent to grub v2's "--boot-directory"17:41
daftykinsfwlug: just giving you stuff you can do something about, take it or leave it.17:42
rollingpingOk Beldar17:42
BeldarTJ-, Ah thanks, I never do a live mbr load without a chroot, generally I will just boot it with supergrub or manually, have no had to fir a long time though.17:43
fwlugdaftykins: No, I appreciate your input for sure, (just saying that I tried from a coupter that uses google's nameserver).17:43
fwlugdaftykins: Any other ideas?17:43
Beldars/no/not   s/fir/for17:44
GioraAm I the only one not being able to connect to skype with v4.2?17:44
OerHeksphako, if there is hdd led activity and numlock still works, let it run17:44
daftykinsfwlug: you weren't too clear on whether all these computers are running different OSs?17:44
phakoOerHeks: yes, and I know it recovers because it's doing it for several releases now, but it starts to really annoy me17:44
Bashing-omrollingping: That is to install grub to the MBR (sector 0) of the 1st hard drive (sda_, '--root' should now be '--boot' .17:44
OerHeksGiora, update your system, skype 4.2 will not connect, 4.3 works fine17:44
GioraWhy not?17:44
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GioraIt worked until yesterday17:44
BeldarI never like grub legacy anyway17:45
OerHeksGiora, because ms blocks 4.217:45
Giora>_>17:45
fwlugdaftykins: ... and just switched another PC to 8.8.8.8 and tried again.17:45
GioraWell 4.3 is crashing for me17:45
GioraAfter a bit of hacking we'll see for how long my v4.2 isn't going to connect17:45
daftykinsfwlug: it'll have cache though, so it'll need DNS flushed or a reboot of course17:46
fwlugOerHeks: Ok, that is interesting....17:46
OerHeksGiora, i hear a lot of skype issues, notheing we can do about it, it is a binairy blob17:46
GioraI'll hack it and get it to work17:46
fwlugdaftykins: I did it on the computer, (not the router).17:46
rollingpingok Bashing-om , i read TJ-  's  message, thank you both. btw still --root-directory works as well17:46
daftykinsfwlug: yes... which has a DNS cache :)17:46
fwlugdaftykins: Not using it on that computer.17:47
Bashing-omrollingping: : )17:47
fwlugdaftykins: Just changed nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf17:47
daftykinsfwlug: that's not gonna work17:47
fwlugdaftykins: Really?17:48
fwlugdaftykins: Why not?17:48
daftykinsnot if you're on 12.04+ no17:48
fwlugdaftykins: Oh yea, one of my computers is 12.04....17:48
OerHeksfwlug, resolv.conf will be rewritten after boot, so editing it is only valid this session17:48
fwlugdaftykins: But the one I just tested on is slackware 14.117:49
fwlugOerHeks: Correct, but did not reboot.17:49
daftykinsyeah i'm not supporting any tasks on that.17:49
fwlugOerHeks: And it depends on what network settings you have and what  network manager you use, whether resolv.conf will be overwritten or not17:50
clark__this might be a stupid question but ... do apt-get sometimes install different packages depending on hardware or already installed packages ?17:50
fwlugOerHeks: My caching nameserver is on the router.17:51
daftykinsclark__: perhaps if you could clue is in on why you're asking, we can answer appropriately17:52
clark__daftykins,  I just playing around with  an idea to use some kind of  integrity monitoring on my system and want to understand the build process17:54
clark__(how dependencies are treated)17:55
TJ-clark__: yes17:55
daftykinsclark__: standard packages for a given architecture, beyond that no idea. deps obviously come from package metadata17:55
TJ-clark__: In Debian packaging it is called "Provides"17:55
TJ-clark__: e.g: many packages are web-browsers and so can satisfy any dependency on "www-browser" that some other package has17:57
newbievoidfire: Are you there?17:57
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hoechtshi. I want to test if a raid device was assembled correctly. Therefore i want to mount it READ ONLY. How can i do it?17:57
TJ-clark__: So, for example, firefox and chromium-browser both "Provides: ... www-browser"17:57
Guest49102voidfire: Are you there?17:57
Bashing-omclark__: A good read : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites ...17:58
Rohan_mHey is it possible to return to parent without making a exit from child process generated from fork() ?17:58
clark__TJ-, I understand, thanks17:59
clark__Bashing-om, thanks17:59
TJ-Rohan_m: your question doesn't make sense17:59
MonkeyDustRohan_m  in what programming language?18:00
Rohan_mMonkeyDust: C18:00
MonkeyDustRohan_m  i'm sure there's a dedicated C channel18:00
Bombowillin file browser under unity (ubuntu 14.04) i see a script.sh with 755 permission, but when i click on it i get the editor. how do i execute it in the file browser?18:00
TJ-Rohan_m: after a fork, both parent and child are running asynchronously18:00
Rohan_mTJ-: o.O well i'm expermenting onthat thing, i made a child process and collecting output via pipe() trying to print stdout by child from parent process asynchronously but i think it gets stuck till child process makes a exit() acting like a blocking function18:03
All0The0WebIs there a good Android IRC client?18:03
Jeevanandroirc18:03
JeevanAll0The0Web: AndroIRC18:03
daftykinsAll0The0Web: this is not an ubuntu support channel18:04
daftykinslol, oops18:04
daftykinsit IS!18:04
daftykinsit's not an android one though18:04
daftykins:D18:04
Jeevanhaha :D18:04
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daftykinsi think we know who needs to stay offline today18:04
TJ-Rohan_m: that's more appropriate for ##programming or ##c18:04
ikoniaRohan_m: you've been pointed to these channels multiple times18:05
g1daftykins: it's you18:05
ikoniaRohan_m: we spoke about this, this channel is for Ubuntu discussion,18:05
MonkeyDustdaftykins  you have been been muted for 60 seconds18:05
ikoniaRohan_m: can you please stop using this channel for your programming discussions ?18:05
Rohan_mikonia: i always try not to disturb this channel but i reach here after i get no response from ##programming ##c ##unix ##linux18:06
ikoniaRohan_m: if you get no response on those channels - that does not mean you bring them to here18:06
ikoniaRohan_m: and I've not seen you in my logs ask any questions in those channels18:07
ikoniaRohan_m: infact you've asked in ##unix (which is STILL the wrong channel) after I asked you not to - so please don't lie18:07
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john0312Is the LTS upgrade from 12.04.4 to 14.04.1 released yet? do-release-upgrade says that there's no new release.18:12
eeeejohn0312: sudo apt-get update, sudo do-release-upgrade -p18:13
ikoniathere is no need for -p18:13
ikoniaif you need -p there is a problem18:13
eeeeikonia: it wasn't working without -p for some18:13
daftykinsseems there is, we're seeing lots with that quirk18:13
ikoniaeeee: right, so that doesn't mean "use -p"18:14
ikoniathat means fix the problem18:14
eeeeikonia: he's saying it's saying no new releases found though18:14
daftykinsdrop the attitude ikonia18:14
john0312Tried without -p, still the same.18:14
ikoniadaftykins: there is no attitude18:14
RMCHDdoes someone have a spare code/redeem for minecraft? :318:14
ikoniaeeee: correct, so if it's not offering the release, there is a problam18:14
ikoniaproblem18:14
ikoniaeeee: so you need to fix / work the problem if required log a bug, rather than try to bypass it18:15
daftykinsRMCHD: that couldn't have less to do with this channel if you tried.18:15
eeeeikonia: ok well, -p only uses the upgrade manager of the new release, so what's the problem there?18:15
john0312with -p, do-release-upgrade works, allowing me to upgrade to trusty.18:15
ikoniaeeee: because there is a problem18:15
john0312Just wondering, is that the final release, or just the proposed?18:16
ikoniaeeee: -p is "proposed" fixes, 14.04.1 is not a proposed release, it's supposed to be stable18:16
ikoniaeeee: so again - "there is a problem" fixing the problem is the answer not throwing random flags at it18:16
john0312ikonia, can you recommend me any methods to go about probing this problem?18:16
RMCHDdaftykins, wrong window :s18:17
ikoniajohn0312: I'd certainly be checking all the sources config and the release upgrade config, I'd be looking at the logs and the repo I'm using (on the actual server) I'd be stracing the process18:17
quantum_entanglecan anybody tell my why the eff would the terminal demand a cdrom from me when i'm trying to install lubuntu desktop?18:17
TJ-ikonia: The issue is that meta-release-lts has not been updated, only meta-release-lts-{proposed,development}, we're waiting on the archive admin to update it but no core dev admits to being responsible for that file18:17
ikoniaTJ-: there we go, thank you18:17
quantum_entangleI didn't even install ubuntu from a disk rom18:17
eeeeikonia: isn't it the same as running apt-get install upgrade-manager-core ?18:18
daftykinsquantum_entangle: sounds like you've got a CD in your software sources not disabled18:18
TJ-ikonia: The problem *is not* client-side, it is server-side18:18
Bashing-omeeee: :: ikonia :: There are number of open bug reports at this time on Launch Pad, In respect to upgrade problems .18:18
john0312TJ-, so that means I should wait?18:18
ikoniaTJ-: I suspected as much18:18
ikoniaTJ-: hence why I said I'd be checking the repos18:18
TJ-john0312: You can used the --proposed quite safely18:18
Beldarquantum_entangle, why are you installing from the cli?18:18
ikoniajohn0312: log a bug against tht repo18:18
ikoniajohn0312: talk to the mirror owners / team18:18
ikoniajohn0312: it's not "right" and unless someone raises it, it will not get fixed18:19
OerHeksif the meta-release-lts package is not out, i would wait.18:19
john0312You mean, if I were to update the source.list, I'll get to upgrade to 14.04.1 without -p?18:19
ikoniajohn0312: no18:19
daftykinsno, just run with -p, it's fine18:19
TJ-john0312: the underlying reason is, the update-manager-core package in 12.04 needed bug-fixes to cope with some other bugs, and that package has been stuck in precise-proposed and hasn't been promoted to main for some reason18:19
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jhutchinsBeldar: Since he's installing a desktop environment, I would guess he's doing that because he doesn't have one.18:20
quantum_entangledaftykins: where can I disable that? the last linux I seriously used was ubuntu 7.10 and that was quite different18:20
jhutchinsBeldar: I do 99% of my system management from the CLI though, so it could just be a matter of preference.18:20
john0312TJ-, ic, I'll google around.18:20
Beldarjhutchins, Ah thought is was a full install.18:20
daftykinsquantum_entangle: go to system settings, then software and sources18:20
TJ-ikonia: john0312: it has nothing to do with the archive mirrors either, this is core Canonical18:20
ikoniaTJ-: then why are some upgrades working ?18:21
Beldarjhutchins, Nice projection though. ;)18:21
ikoniajohn0312: if that TJ- is saying is right there should already be a bug report on it, or log a new bug for it18:21
quantum_entangledaftykins:  duh, yeah, found it, thanks.18:21
daftykinsnp18:21
TJ-ikonia: Those that have precise-proposed enabled will work18:22
john0312ikonia: TJ-: ic, thanks. I'll go check out the bug report.18:22
ikoniaTJ-: while I agree with your logic, it seems odd that so many people would have proposed enabled by default18:22
alazare619does anyone in here use smuxi can it be a bnc there channel is basically empty18:23
TJ-ikonia: Well that's the situation, do-release-upgrade uses http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts18:24
Beldaralazare619, Help is generated with stating the issue.18:24
ikoniaTJ-: which as you say, clearly has it missing18:24
matty_rSo can anybody explain to me why programs are starting off screen?18:24
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alazare619How do i configure smuxi to act as just a bnc i want hexchat client to connect to my server and znc is just plain overkill18:25
TJ-ikonia: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed (and -development) have trusty listed18:25
ikoniaTJ-: very poor18:25
ikoniaTJ-: and nice work18:25
Beldarmatty_r, off screen? Is it a resolution issue?18:25
TJ-Which is why "do-release-upgrade --proposed" (and --development) work18:26
ikoniayes, that makes sense18:26
grobe0baalazare619, looks to me like smuxi_server is smuxi specific18:26
john0312Are there any estimation on when will -proposed propagate to the non proposed version?18:26
grobe0bait uses it's own protocol, and won't act as a bouncer for a different client18:26
matty_rBeldar: No I think it's something to do with my dedicated graphics card and the 'onboard' graphics card18:26
alazare619the wikipedia page then lied and said its a full bouncer grobe0ba :(18:26
TJ-john0312: from what I know, it should be pretty soon now. I think vacations have got in the way a bit18:26
grobe0baalazare619, look at where you're getting your information18:26
john0312TJ-, ic, thanks. Guess I'll wait it out.18:27
matty_rBeldar: for some reason it thinks there are two displays18:27
grobe0bahowever, it IS a full bouncer18:27
grobe0bait's just designed for use with a single client18:27
TJ-john0312: I emailed the release manager, Adam Conrad, over a week ago and still not heard back on it18:27
* debrisrat hi!18:27
quantum_entanglehi18:27
ikoniaTJ-: do you know if there is a bug open for this ?18:27
grobe0baalazare619, or perhaps i'm wrong18:27
alazare619i guess ill just play with it and see18:27
TJ-ikonia: It's not a bug, that's the point :) But there is a tracker on RT18:27
john0312Is it stuck because of the HWE Stack thingy?18:27
alazare619there seems to be little documentation on the smuxi core server18:27
Beldarmatty_r, Not sure but relevant details IE, hardware if your hypothesis is correct would help the channel, no idea myself.18:28
ikoniaTJ-: well there is a bug as it's not been released in line with the release schedule18:28
Term1nalSo, my system updated to 14.04.1, and now refuses to boot. it's a less than a year old haswell i5 system on ASUS z87-k with 4TB 7200rpm hard drive.18:28
grobe0baalazare619, have you looked at their site? https://smuxi.im/documentation/server/  <--- talks about it18:28
grobe0bai'd never even heard of it till you asked18:28
alazare619fails to load w/ webkit18:28
grobe0bai'd just use znc like a normal person18:28
bekksTerm1nal: so what exactly does it do?18:28
grobe0baalazare619, loads just fine for me18:28
Term1naltries to boot, drops me into the BIOS setup screen.18:28
alazare619ahh it worked now must of been a glitch18:28
Beldarmatty_r, Display would be a place to look it seems18:28
jhutchinsTerm1nal: Sounds like grub didn't get installed to the MBR.  Is it EFI?18:29
matty_rBeldar: Yea in there I have the Built-in display and another "Unknown Display" - I have nothing connected18:29
Term1nalit is.18:29
john0312Term1nal: Disable secure boot and try again.18:29
quantum_entangleso not only does the software and updates window frees when i try to install the nvidia binary drivers from it but also when i disable the cdrom source from it and it asks for some update after that, yeah, imma gonna instal mint now. thanks for the help y'all but ubuntu's just not working out anymore. :(18:29
Term1naldid.18:29
Term1nal(it was never on anyway)18:30
Beldarmatty_r, relevant info for here and web searches18:30
Term1nalI tried fresh reinstallation from the 14.04.1 DVD18:30
Term1nalwent through the whole install, and doing the same thing18:30
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john0312Term1nal: So it doesn't boot even with a fresh install?18:31
BeldarTerm1nal, You were asked a pertinent question.18:31
Beldarjhutchins> Term1nal: Sounds like grub didn't get installed to the MBR.  Is it EFI?18:31
jhutchinsBeldar: He said it is.18:32
jhutchins!efi18:32
john0312Haswell is on EFI.18:32
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:32
Beldarjhutchins, I see that now no nick my favorite. ;)18:32
bekksjohn0312: HAswell is a CPU generation. It has nothing to do with the mainboaerd using BIOS or UEFI.18:32
Term1naljohn0312: yes, fresh install still occuring.18:33
Bashing-omjohn0312: This bug report I am aware of- among others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1347964 .18:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 1347964 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Trusty) "Precise w/Trusty HWE -> Trusty release upgrade fails : ubuntu-desktop fails to configure" [High,Fix released]18:33
john0312ic, I've never seen a Haswell without EFI, so I thought that's the case.18:33
alazare619hmm i may just go with znc18:33
john0312Bashing-om: thanks.18:34
Term1nalI can try reloading with regular 14.0418:34
Term1nalnot sure what went wrong. the install went fine enough, it seemed to have taken place after upgrading to 14.04.118:34
QantouriscIs it correct intel-hda required manual download of .deb's ?18:34
Qantourischttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS18:35
Bashing-omjohn0312: Note that it says fixed - I think the 'fix' broke other components .18:35
john0312Term1nal: Probably something is wrong with GRUB, but I'm not familiar with it.18:35
john0312Bashing-om: ic, I guess I'll wait for things to get fixed before upgrading.18:35
Term1nalI tried resetting the CMOS and reconfiguring to have secure boot off, and the like. Updating the BIOS to the latest release from ASUS, no dice.18:35
jhutchinsTerm1nal: Did you check the UEFI page?18:35
Term1nalI'm sure it has something to do with it being a 4TB drive, but again, it worked prior to 14.04.118:36
TJ-Term1nal: Hang on a moment, this isn't the first we've heard recently along these lines... I sense a common thread. In the UEFI firmware setup, on the boot menu, do you see an "Ubuntu" entry?18:36
Term1nalI checked everything I could possibly think of prior to coming to IRC.18:36
Term1nalI think I know what you mean, let me double check that. I am very sure that UEFI is turned on, however.18:37
jhutchinsTerm1nal: We're going to suggest things anyway, on the chance that there might be something you didn't think of.18:37
Bashing-omjohn0312: That is the advisement I have seen from others much better qualified than I am .. They say wait for the release of the next 12.04 point release, the 8th (??) .18:37
HexagonThe latest release is 14.04 to my knowledge18:38
TJ-Term1nal: I've dealt with a handful of similar issues recently, and for all of them the problem was that the firmware didn't display an Ubuntu boot menu option *but* using efibootmgr from a live environment confirmed there was such an entry, and it was set to the default18:38
Term1nalgive me a moment, phone18:38
nimowhich IRC-client, dudes?"18:39
TJ-Term1nal: The only thing I could see in the boot entries written by efibootmgr was the boot path, which wasn't using a PCI path but a disk alias path, and that made me wonder if that is causing issues for some firmwares, leading them to 'prune' the Ubuntu entry from the list of valid boot options18:40
Bashing-omTJ-: Testers are going around and round with similar at this time .. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237479 , if you will .18:40
reisio!ops nimo ctcp join spam18:40
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:40
reisioubottu: not much chance of that18:40
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:40
reisiolike I said18:41
jarray52I'm getting the error message, "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." when I try to install Updates using the Update Manager.18:41
reisiojarray52: and?18:41
linuxgirlBonsoir, sur UEFI j'ai un menu comme celle là. http://i.stack.imgur.com/rL6Jh.jpg Comment avoir le même menu comme sur MBR avec l'option for changer la langue?18:41
bprompt!fr | linuxgirl18:42
ubottulinuxgirl: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:42
reisiolinuxgirl: that's GRUB, not UEFI18:42
jarray52reisio: How do I approve the installation of packages from those non authenticated sources? Or, authenticate those sources?18:42
reisiolinuxgirl: did you just want to change the entries' titles from English to Francais?18:42
reisiojarray52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages searching ftw18:43
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GioraMay microsoft be doomed18:43
GioraI have v4.2 working18:43
TJ-Bashing-om: Yeah, that looks to be a good summary, although last I heard from core-devs last week, the HWE>trusty ISO issue was solved18:44
Gioraskype v4.2*18:44
linuxgirlubottu: Ok, c'est desolés et non pas "desoles"!18:45
ubottulinuxgirl: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:45
Bashing-omTJ-: The original bug report on HWE upgrade issue had been closed as 'fixed'(patched) ,but, many more are now popping up .18:46
reisiolinuxgirl: not everyone knows how to use diacritics :p18:46
nimoit is alt-e+e :[18:48
linuxgirlHow to boot an ubuntu live cd on UEFI boot system and select langauge on the loader screen. The menu looks different compared to booting on MBR system.18:48
reisiolinuxgirl: language is probably chosen after GRUB18:48
jak2000hi all18:48
reisiojak2000: hi18:49
linuxgirlIs no way to chose language non graphically with boot option?18:49
jak2000http://pastie.org/9439533    what is wrong in my interfaces file? thanks18:50
reisiolinuxgirl: you might ask /msg alis list *ubunt*fr18:50
Marleneei have problem installing ubuntu on my pc18:50
Beldarlinuxgirl, The dvd download is much larger as it contains language on board, not sure if this will fix your issue however.18:50
Bashing-omlinuxgirl: Have you : as soon as bios screen clears when booting liveDVD. depress and hold the right shift key ? -> I expect the language selection screen to appear,18:50
Marleneei dont know how install ubuntu on same HDD but in another drive18:51
BeldarMarlenee, Give us the details of the problem.18:51
linuxgirlBashing-om: Non it does not. If I boot in MBR mode it comes18:51
BeldarMarlenee> i dont know how install ubuntu on same HDD but in another drive  Can you make this clearer?18:51
Gioralinuxgirl: I believe you might need the x64 version to boot in uefi mode18:52
BeldarMarlenee, An identical install you have on another HD?18:52
linuxgirlGiora: It is the x86_64 iso18:52
Term1nalTJ-: Ok, so, I'm -not- getting the UEFI boot entry when I -disable- CSM (legacy fallback, with UEFI set as the "primary" method)18:52
Term1nalSo, might try another reinstall with CSM turned off entirely to force UEFI18:52
reisioGiora: it's the language and not the boot mode she's interested in18:52
linuxgirlTerm1nal: That is normal18:52
winbI have installed rtorrent but I can't seem to find rtorrent.rc. There used to be an example file somewhere18:52
GioraOh my bad18:52
Bashing-omlinuxgirl: : ( .. did not know of that situation . I too am at a loss.18:53
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MarleneeBeldar : i have 1TB HDD and i partion it to C:drive to 100 GB and then i make D:drive to 50 GB then i split the rest of space to two partion18:53
linuxgirlBashing-om: UEFI uses different loader for the boot Its more simple like normal menu of installed grub.18:53
GioraMarlenee: you could use wubi to install ubuntu18:54
TJ-Bashing-om: linuxgirl: For DVD UEFI boot there is no language selection before it boots to a regular GRUB menu with "Try..." and "Install..." Once you choose one of those methods, it'll lead to the language selector18:54
BeldarMarlenee, And than what happens?18:54
MarleneeC:Drive i run Windows 7 then i make D: 50 GB is free to install ubuntu18:54
Marleneei cannt use WUBI18:54
BeldarMarlenee, Are you on the live ubuntu now?18:54
GioraMarlenee: why not?18:54
linuxgirlTJ-: I know but I wondered if there was non graphical method18:54
Marleneeits force me to download ubuntu from begin18:54
TJ-linuxgirl: no, there isn't18:55
Marleneeiam a windows user18:55
BeldarGiora, wubi is not supported, not a good help option.18:55
TJ-Term1nal: That suggest it installed in Legacy/MBR mode then18:55
GioraBeldar: Sorry I didn't know that :/18:55
linuxgirlIf MBR boot does it is there no a boot option to type in?18:55
Term1nalTJ-: 4TB Disk18:55
MarleneeBeldar : i downlaod the latest CD of ubuntu18:56
TJ-linuxgirl: No, because MBR boot uses isolinux whereas UEFI uses the standard EFI boot via grub-efi18:56
MarleneeBeldar : iam not able to setup it on the D: drive which is free18:56
TJ-Term1nal: Have you checked the installed system from a live boot?18:56
linuxgirlCan it be changed from the command line after booting?18:56
BeldarMarlenee, Are you booted to it's desktop now?18:56
Term1nalThis system was running Ubuntu 14.04 for a while already previously.18:57
Term1nalsomething with 14.04.1 borked it.18:57
TJ-linuxgirl: I'm afraid also, that with the DVD UEFI boot, using "Try..." doesn't give you an immediate language choice, you have to navigate the English menus and install the native language pack18:57
BeldarMarlenee, Are you fluid in english?18:57
georgelappieshi I am looking for a shell theme that looks like the default one, accept that it uses square buttons where the default one uses the buttons with the round edges, any suggestions please?18:58
linuxgirlLike some similar way of it like in the Arch linux iso (if you are familiar with that)18:58
MarleneeBeldar : i dont know about booted desktop !!18:58
BeldarMarlenee, Is english your default language?19:01
Marleneeyes19:02
MarleneeBeldar : yes19:02
BeldarMarlenee, Can you boot the ubuntu download to it's desktop?19:02
jak2000not know why ifconfig not work fine:19:02
jak2000http://pastie.org/943953319:02
jak2000Tj- tell me i have a error in interfaces file19:03
BeldarMarlenee, WE need to run a few commands in the terminal to confirm a few things is all.19:03
Rohan_mWhat irc clients do you guys use ?19:03
MarleneeBeldar : the only way i can run ubuntu right now is only from USB it like live CD19:03
Rohan_mRohan_m: What irc clients do you guyz use for Ubuntu ?19:04
BeldarMarlenee, That is fine, however I feel we are not communicating.19:04
Beldarclearly19:04
kendrickhow19:04
GioraRohan_m: You could use xchat19:04
vlad003Rohan_m, XChat and irssi19:04
kendrickhow do I get node.js on my ubuntu system?19:04
BeldarRohan_m, Why can you not realize that this is support E.g with actual problems?19:05
MarleneeBeldar : iam not good in booting ubuntu19:05
MarleneeBeldar : i always run it from USB whic is easy for me19:05
BeldarMarlenee, What is your native language?19:05
MarleneeBeldar : i understand english19:06
xycoI am formatting a backup hard drive that needs to work on Windows, is exFAT better than NTFS for this?19:07
eeeeMarlenee: after you run the usb, you should click on install ubuntu.19:07
Marleneebut it dosent show me which Drive to install19:07
BeldarMarlenee, You have not answered any question I ask, that is a huge red flag, we are not communicating. ;)19:07
eeeeMarlenee: do you get a menu that says Install next to windows, and Install in encrypted drive, .. and at the bottom "Something else"19:08
eeee?19:08
Beldareeee, I can appreciate you want to help, however if you look at our conversation you will see no real communication.19:09
Beldareeee, And references that are incorrect this needs a little look at what is actually there.19:09
OerHeksMarlenee, how big is that D drive?19:09
Marleneei dont remember but i will try later i cant do it now because iam running windows which need to shutdown the OS and see what i get19:09
eeeeOerHeks: he says 50GB19:10
MarleneeOerHeks : its 50 GB19:10
xycoI am formatting a backup hard drive that needs to work on Windows, is exFAT better than NTFS for this?19:10
Beldarxyco, I would use ntfs19:10
rambo123456say I wanted to have an ubuntu machine on the cloud? is there a free or cheap cloud service out there?19:11
bekksxyco: you will not be able to safe linux permissions on that drive.19:11
reisioxyco: exfat has less support than ordinary fat and ntfs IME, but obviously fat has its filesize limitations19:11
Beldarrambo123456, Not really a support issue.19:11
reisioxyco: you should distinguish between whether it needs to work on _random_ Windows boxes, though, and Windows boxes you wholly control (for which you could install an ext driver for win32)19:11
xycoreisio: i have not checked out the Ext4 drivers for Windows in a while, I'll look into that19:13
Term1nalrambo123456: if you just need SSH access, try DigitalOcean, 5 bones a month for a VPS with 1 core, 512MB RAM, and 20GB SSD with 1TB outbound transfer.19:13
reisioxyco: ext2fsd, works fine19:13
rambo123456Term1nal: thats not bad.. I will check it out19:13
MarleneeBeldar : i will shutdown now and see what i get in19:13
rambo123456Term1nal: do you use it?19:13
eeeeMarlenee: if you see "Something else", that is the option you need, however when you enter there it will be a partitioning utility, it won't say D: & C:, it will say SDA1 SDA2 , are you familiar with what partitions you'll need for ubuntu?19:13
Term1nalthere's a promo code for you, rambo123456: 10 bucks credit to try it out19:14
BeldarMarlenee, THe others are more willing to just help I would stick with them. ;)19:14
eeee(swap partition, main root partition, etc.)19:14
Term1nalyes I do, I have several VPSes served on DigitalOcean19:14
tortibTerm1nal, nice I have a VPS on DO as well :D19:14
Term1nalrambo123456: this should work for you for 10 bucks credit: SNAPjuly19:15
Marleneeeeee : no i dont knwo much about sda19:15
eeeeMarlenee: you have experience partitioning though, right?19:15
rambo123456Term1nal: Thanks.  you da man19:15
rambo123456Term1nal: and I can install whatever I want in it?  any development tool?19:17
eeeeMarlenee: it's the same as C: D:, except in ubuntu the main disk is called SDA, and the partitions (C: D: etc.) are called SDA1 SDA2. It's just a naming scheme.19:17
Term1nalthey give you an image of whatever distro you want basically, and you get root access, do whatever you want.19:17
Marleneeeeee: lets say i install ubuntu on that D: Drive what if i want to choose between windows on C:drive and ubuntu on D:drive19:17
bekkseeee: And you just mixed up partitions and filesystems :)19:17
bekksMarlenee: Then ou have to tell your bootloader.19:18
Beldareeee, Your obviously not scrolling back, your just confusing the user more.19:18
bekks!dualboot | Marlenee19:18
ubottuMarlenee: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:18
reisioMarlenee: you'll have to "tell" your bootloader if it doesn't autoconfigure that way19:18
MarleneeBeldar : iam already confused ;|19:19
BeldarMarlenee, Yes I could tell that and was trying to systematically discover what you had and your understanding so we could get a good good install efficiently, but to only be interrupted, which has just confused the issue for you and the jump in helpers. ;)19:20
Beldarthe ego's abound here.19:21
MonkeyDustMarlenee  do some reading here, about what partitions are http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-linux-guide,2293-5.html19:21
PoolShark_Hi... I am having a problem with Ubuntu 14.04 desktop... it seems it is unable to detect any of the drives attached to my Marvell 9172 SATA controller. I can see the adapter on lspci -k and also that the ahci driver is loaded for it, but it just doesn't see the drives. Google tells me there have been many reports of this going back fully three years, and that the kernel was patched to fix the problem, but I'm curious why the lates19:21
bekksPoolShark_: How do you look for the drives?19:21
eeeeBeldar: heh i just want to give him a helping hand.19:21
PoolShark_doesn't have this patch... oddly booting the liveCD can see the drives, so the kernel used for the LiveCD has the patch, but the kernel installed with the distro doesn't19:21
PoolShark_bekks: dmesg | grep sd19:21
Beldareeee, And how has that gone?19:22
MonkeyDustMarlenee  learning something new can be hard, confusing and even frustrating, that's true19:22
reisioBeldar: the egos* you mean! HOHO19:22
bekksPoolShark_: Did you configure a RAID in the BIOS of that controller?19:23
PoolShark_bekks: no.. it's AHCI19:23
Beldarreisio, Oh you grammar man. ;)19:23
Beldardepends ego is you know19:24
PoolShark_bekks: I would never use a hardware "fakeraid" controller when mdadm gives so much better diagnostic coverage and tools :)19:24
reisioBeldar: id!19:24
eeeeBeldar: whatever just cause you don't want to spend an extra second figuring out what he's trying to say.. dont jump on me19:24
bekksPoolShark_: that controller is a hardware raid 1/0 controller.19:24
PoolShark_bekks: it also does AHCI non-RAID19:25
Beldareeee, I was spending a lot of time just trying to get on the same page, until the pile on which just confuses the issue look at the scroll back.19:25
PoolShark_bekks: the "RAID" part is done in the option ROM loaded from the motherboard firmware19:25
eeeeBeldar: you were asking about his language, 3 times19:25
Beldareeee, I'm not going to participate in just confusing the issue \.19:25
PoolShark_bekks: the 9172 itself is simply a pci-e to SATA bridge19:25
jarray52While updating, I'm getting the error message that the packages freecad, liboce-foundation8, liboce-modeling8, ... come from an unauthenticated source. These come from the repo http://ppa.launchpad.net/freecad-maintainers/freecad-stable/ubuntu precise main. How do I approve this repo?19:26
Beldareeee, We wee not communication nor ere any questions clearly answerd.19:26
reisiojarray52: already told you19:26
Term1naljarray52: check your date and time.19:26
xangua!gpgerr | jarray5219:26
ubottujarray52: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »19:26
Beldarwere* communicating*19:26
kendrick!gpgerr | jarray5219:27
ubottujarray52: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »19:27
eeeeBeldar: i guess i have magical mind reading skills :)19:27
Term1nalIt could be the date and time are out of date, thus even if the key is valid, it may not be valid given that your clock might be rolled back to a date in which the key is not -yet- valid.19:27
Beldareeee, You can just keep defending rather than reflecting it's you cognition.19:27
Guido1hello, soon I will be in a network which supports gigabit ethernet. Are there specific requirements needed to use it like a minimum amount of RAM or processor speed?19:27
Beldaryour*19:27
PoolShark_iin any case, I need to see these drives heh19:27
MarleneeMonkeyDust : i format that drive to "NTFS" am i still able to install ubuntu on it or shall i need to format it in "ext3"19:28
OerHeksGuido1, no, gigabit network will run on a 900 mhz cpu too19:28
Term1nalGuido1: if your machine is like... newer than 8 years old, you should be fine on gigabit.19:28
eeeeMarlenee: in the "Something else" option you can make partitions and format them19:28
jhutchinsMarlenee: It's possible to install Linux on ntfs, but it doesn't work well and isn't recommended.19:28
jhutchinsMarlenee: ntfs doesn't handle permissions and ownership the same way as linux does.19:29
Term1nalThat's primarily a filesystem driver thing, jhutchins19:29
Term1nalnot the underlying FS itself;.19:29
jhutchinsTerm1nal: No.19:30
reisioalso NTFS is just crappy :)19:30
Beldarheh 5 helpers doing what I was obviously trying to do, confirm what is there, an understanding of file system19:30
Term1nalindeed it is.19:30
reisioBeldar: you win the game19:30
jhutchinsTerm1nal: No, they store the information differently.19:30
Guido1OerHeks, Term1nal: I don't know the exact age. Some computers may be a bit older, but the main linux machine is very new (intel i5, 4 GB ram)19:30
Beldarjust an observation19:30
Term1nalGuido1: you'll be fine with gigabit.19:31
OerHeksGuido1, you'll be fine19:31
Beldarno one wins19:31
Term1nalLet's also not forget, if trying to interop with windows, you'll have troubles with line endings being different in linux vs windows, so there's that problem.19:31
reisioit's not a problem 'cause nobody's doing it and if they did nobody'd care :)19:31
Term1nalbest to just split the drive as needed, mixing NTFS on some partitions, and ext4 on others. with a single NTFS -shared- partition to move data to-from.19:32
Marlenee_mjhutchins: i dont have any problem to format that D: partion to ext3 but if i run windows 7 OS can i see the files inside that partion and what if i want to copy or write to or from ot19:32
reisiobest to pick one OS, how many OSes do you need?19:32
reisioyou only need one19:32
Term1nalWhat I do19:32
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Not by default, no.19:32
Term1nalis I run Ubuntu on the bare metal19:32
Beldarheaven forbid we help the user understand in a functional manner. ;)19:32
Term1naland if I ever need windows (god forbid), I run it under virtualbox19:32
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: You can get ext filesystem drivers for Windows, but they don't come with it.19:32
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reisioBeldar: beats an OO manner, at any rate19:33
Bomboi want to change the resolution of my monitor (running nvidia) but nothing happens when i change it in nvidia panel or unity settings, in Xorg.log.0 i see '(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1 Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display device CRT-1 (Using EDID frequencies has been enabled on all display devices.)'19:33
Term1nallol reisio19:33
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: You can have an NTFS partition for shared data, but the system drive needs to be a *nix compatible filesystem.19:33
Bombo(it worked with ubuntu 12.10 btw)19:33
Beldaryour evidence is?19:33
eeeeMarlenee_m: you can copy the files from ubuntu to windows while you're booted in ubuntu.19:33
DarkCat26Ubuntu softwares on http://gthotel.org19:34
Beldarreisio, Since your very good at this and I believe a fellow sax player I do like your help here. ;)19:34
Marlenee_meeee: what about from windows to ubuntu when i boot in windows19:34
reisioBeldar: you saxist19:35
reisio:D19:35
Beldarlol19:35
reisiowhat a great pun19:35
reisioman, that was a good pun :p19:35
* reisio pats self on back19:35
BeldarI will otto link you bro19:35
reisioheh19:35
eeeeMarlenee_m: as jhutchins suggested19:35
reisioyou will selmer books that way19:35
Beldarnewest 6 hard rubber love ut19:35
reisiommm, rubber19:36
reisioI feel the lunch tyme a-comin'19:36
AdemanAnyone who's used a MIDI keyboard with ubuntu before. Is it possible to 1. not use JACK and 2. have low enough latency to hear what you're playing through fluidsynth?19:37
reisioAdeman: sure19:37
reisiojack is never required19:37
fabiozolioalguém aqui ?19:38
reisioand there are lower latency kernels if you want'm19:38
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Marlenee_meeee: i agree with "jhutchins" but what if i want to run windows and that D:partion cant read or write from it19:38
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Linux can read and write to most file systems, but Windows doesn't handle many by default.  You can get/install drivers for windows to read other filesystems.19:38
Ademanreisio: hrm, I guess I just saw JACK associated with everything audio-related I assumed it was either required or effectively required (because everything else performed/functioned too poorly)19:38
reisiofabiozolio: #ubuntu-br19:38
reisioAdeman: jack is very handy, but never requierd19:39
reisiorequired*19:39
reisioAdeman: you should probably find an audio channel19:39
reisioAdeman: /msg alis list *audio*, or *sound*, etc.19:39
reisiomaybe *studio*19:39
jhutchinsBoy, it's been so long since I used NTFS I don't remember what happens when Linux writes a file on it - how ownership maps.19:39
Marlenee_mjhutchins: i will install ubuntu on that D:partion formated as NTFS19:40
reisiojhutchins: if it doesn't just fail and eat your data, y'mean? :p19:40
Ademanreisio: hrm there *is* an #ubuntustudio maybe I'll try there first, thanks!19:40
rwwjhutchins: if I recall correctly, on the Windows side everyone has access to it19:40
eeeeMarlenee_m: as jhutchins said, from ubuntu you can read and write to the windows partition, but if you want to access the ubuntu partition from windows you'll need to do some extra work19:40
malkaunsmy audio just died and pulseaudio -k doesnt fix it, what can i do?19:40
reisio  /msg alis list *ubuntustudio*19:40
reisiowhoops19:40
Marlenee_mjhutchins: it dosent matter to ownership19:40
reisio36 whole pplz19:40
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Yeah, it does.19:41
jarray52reisio: I tried the method listed at the link you provided: 'http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages' That resulted in the following error.19:41
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Ubuntu also uses file links which can't happen on NTFS.19:41
jarray52W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 005EAE8119BB5BCA19:41
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Some programs don't work correctly if the ownership and permissions aren't right.19:41
Marlenee_mall i need to know now is installing ubuntu on that D:drive and to able to choose between windows and ubuntu and just read and write files19:42
Juniorhellome, i am having trouble upgrading a ubuntu 12.10. Please see: http://pastebin.com/azQyW0Qx . Any ideeas ? Thank you!19:42
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: There are changes you can make, and there are distributions that are meant to be installed on NTFS like Cygwin, but in general the full linux installations on NTFS do not work very well.19:42
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Why do you think you need to write to the Linux drive from Windows?19:44
eeeeMarlenee_m: ok, in the "something else" option, that 50GB, you have to delete it so it turns into free space, then make a partition that's roughly the same size of your RAM (if it's 6GB RAM make it 6.5GB) and the partition type is Swap, then make the main root partition that is 'Mounted On' "/" and ext4 filesystem type19:44
Marlenee_mjhutchins : like transfer movies songs apps what ever19:44
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: There's no need to transfer them, Ubuntu can read them directly from the Windows drive.19:45
jhutchinsMarlenee_m: Apps won't transfer - Windows apps don't run under Linux.19:45
JustanickWill 14.04 get the gcc 4.8.3 as an update for 4.8.2 ?19:45
Qantouriscjhutchins: there was some ext2/3 tool, but it bluescreed when i tried it19:45
Qantouriscjhutchins: i'd bet on mounting windows in linux :p19:46
Marlenee_mjhutchins : thats the answer i looking for19:46
jhutchinsQantourisc: Yeah, there are commercial grade drivers you can get.19:46
Marlenee_mjhutchins : i dont mean windows apps i mean there some linux apps stored on windows partion19:47
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jhutchinsMarlenee_m: You mean packages or installed apps?  Packages will be readable and installable, but for previous reasons you don't want to install linux apps on Windows.19:49
Marlenee_mjhutchins : yeah i mean packages from repositories19:50
kevivDoes anybody know what the name of the persistence file for a live thumb drive is?19:51
kevivIs it casper-rw?19:51
Bombohmmm where is wine 1.7 in ubuntu 14.04? i'm pretty sure i got it installed in 12.1019:52
xanguaBombo: sudo apt-get install wine19:53
Bomboxangua: installs 1.619:54
Bomboxangua: need 1.719:54
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frost_biteis there something I can use to remotely get the PUBLIC IP of my hone computer even if it reboots and gets a new random address?19:56
Bombohttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages there it is19:58
DJonesfrost_bite: dyndns seems to work ok for me, there's multiple services that will work though19:59
Bombohttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/4292983/+listing-archive-extra19:59
Bombowhy isn't that in the trusty repo?19:59
jhutchinsMarlenee_e: Well, hopefully you'll be able to download the packages with the package manager within Ubuntu.20:00
Bomboi don't see it with apt-cache search wine20:00
JustanickBombo: 1.7 is still a develop version.20:00
BomboJustanick: https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6180058 'in ubuntu trusty RELEASE'20:02
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xanguaBombo: gusta a20:04
excelsioraI installed virtualbox's .deb from their site. Now it's screwing up on me.20:04
excelsioraHow can I uninstall it and reinstall from the repos?20:04
xanguaBombo: that's a third party repository20:04
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xangua!latest l Bombo20:05
ubottuxangua: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:05
excelsiorafair enough20:05
Bomboxangua: 'gusta a'?20:05
xanguaNo more latest factoid ?20:05
MonkeyDustxangua  it's with |, not with l20:06
excelsioraaskubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue20:06
excelsiorano help ^20:06
Bomboxangua: how do you know? and can i add this? how?20:06
excelsiorawell, lots of help. most upvoted answer didn't help.20:06
MonkeyDustexcelsiora  then try another answer, it may help for you20:07
excelsioraThey're all old, and I suppose not for the repo version20:08
excelsioranon-repo version I mean20:08
bagel`i just installed the apache2 package on ubuntu. i just created my first entry in /etc/apache2/sites-available and ran a2ensite and restarted apache. but yet it still brings me to the default apache page, /var/www/html .. but if i edit the vhost entry and take out <VirtualHost *:80> and replace it with the IP (for *) , it works.. this is happening ever since i upgraded to 14.0420:12
bagel`from 13.1020:12
Bombook got it https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa20:13
Bombosorry ;)20:13
AaraigathorI have a pc running windows 7 and I want to make it a dualboot with Ubuntu 14.04, the issue is that the harddrive is a 1.5TB and uses GPT instead of MBR. How can I do this?20:13
Bashing-omax562: Have you been able to expand the ubuntu partition ?20:14
bekksAaraigathor: Basically the same way as with MBR.20:14
bekksAaraigathor: And if you arent forced to use GPT, you can use MBR as longas the drive is smaller than 2TB.20:15
Aaraigathorbekks: What if I am forced to use GPT? How would I do this then?20:15
bekks!dualboot | Aaraigathor20:16
ubottuAaraigathor: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot20:16
Aaraigathorbekks: The machine already has windows 7 on it and is using GPT, will those instructions work for GPT?20:16
joelmodoes anyone have an iPhone and have figured out how to sync music to it?20:17
daftykins!itunes20:17
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee20:17
joelmoI have used banshee and put music on the phone but it doesn't appear when I use the phone only in banshee20:17
joelmo!players20:18
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs20:18
bekksAaraigathor: I never had to dualboot in the last decade :)20:19
Aaraigathorbekks: Thanks for your help!20:19
IamTryingUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS - is it broken ??? Why its not installing in my Alienware X51 Dell PC? i have only a Ubuntu splash screen for 1 hour20:25
Eldunarhmm check if u have secureboot turned off20:27
IamTryingEldunar: Where?20:27
fnook1331does any one know a good work around for the a2dp audio sync problems with in ubuntu 14.04 lts20:27
EldunarIn bios .20:27
IamTryingEldunar: in Alienware X51 bios: i have boot mode = Legacy20:28
IamTryingEldunar: Legacy or UEFI?20:28
Eldunarlegacy20:28
IamTryingOK - it was always legacy Eldunar20:28
Eldunarbut not only that. Look for sth like secureboot20:29
bekksIamTrying: You can try to set nomodeset also.20:30
bekks!nomodeset | IamTrying20:30
ubottuIamTrying: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:30
fnook1331does any one know a good work around for the a2dp audio sync problems with in ubuntu 14.04 lts20:30
IamTryingEldunar: with same PC i can use Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 but not 14.04 it must be 14.04 and this Dell hardware related20:32
IamTryingbekks: i set nomodeset but still same, splash screen ubuntu logo and 4 dots20:32
Eldunarhmmm.... look if u have sth like CMS : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203945120:32
MonkeyDustIamTrying  i had the same thing with my intel pc, every release works on it, except 14.04, i now use 12.0420:33
MonkeyDustreplace intel with acer*20:34
mounirhello20:34
mouniri'm new in Ubuntu20:34
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mouniri love it20:34
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bekksIamTrying: So disable splash and disable quiet and try again, using nomodeset.20:35
mounirbye20:35
mounir;)20:35
BlueProtomanI'm trying to use the terminal built-in to Nautilus.  But I have two problems.  One, when I press backspace, I am moved up to the parent directory (instead of deleting a character on the terminal).  Two, when I press "/", instead of typing a "/" the breadcrumbs at the top turn into a text field containing only "/" (presumably to enter a path manually).  How can I prevent these behaviors?20:35
BlueProtoman(Ubuntu 14.04)20:35
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fnook1331 I am having major problems with a2dp audio sync with bluetooth headphones with ubuntu 14.04 lts20:37
num1_BlueProtoman, wait, there's a terminal built into Nautilus?20:37
BlueProtomannum1_: Well, I have a Nautilus plug-in that adds one in20:38
Bomboi installed apt-get install lxde, selected it in lightdm, it starts, works good, but the logout button doesn't do anything, i see 'lxsession-logout --banner /usr/share/lxde/images/logout-banner.png --side=top' in htop running, but nothing happens20:39
fnook1331hello, this is a support channel can i get some help with this issue that i have20:40
Ben64!patience | fnook133120:40
ubottufnook1331: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:40
num1_BlueProtoman, telling us which plugin you installed which probably help us tell you how to use that plugin :)20:41
BlueProtomannum1_: One sec20:41
IamTryinghttp://oi60.tinypic.com/afkm0k.jpg - bekks: 1) disabled splash/quite and set nomodeset 2) see screen shot there its waiting forever...20:42
BlueProtomannum1_: https://launchpad.net/nautilus-terminal20:44
bekksIamTrying: Can you boot into recovery mode?20:44
pookyI've been trying to use the online account feature of ubuntu with evolution, but all of my accounts continue to time out when I try to connect. Any suggestion for figuring out the problem?20:44
nosoundHow do I see WHY a package won't install? I meet the deps, and there's no conflicts, yet it says broken and won't install.20:45
pookyIf it's just a matter of manually putting my accounts into evolution I'll do it, I just don't understand the point of the online accounts :/20:45
bekksnosound: Can you pastebin the entire output you are seeing please?20:45
bekks!pastebin|nosound20:45
ubottunosound: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:45
nosoundbekks: ok, so i found the problem was further up the tree of deps... for some reason libjack-dev was not installing libjack0 so evne though port's deps were met jacks were not...20:48
IamTryingbekks: recovery mode booted20:48
pr0tHi, I am running Gnome Shell and I want to replace it's default application/task bar with cairo dock, does anyone know if there is documentation related to this?20:49
nosoundbekks: you'd think it'd be smart enough to auto-select things :P20:49
nosoundpr0t: If you're lazy and want classic Gnome, MATE is now available in Ubuntu.20:50
pr0tnah I don't want classic Gnome, I definitely still want Gnome shell,  but with the cairo dock to replace the standard one that comes with gnome shell20:51
bekksnosound: If you think you're smart, then suggest more targetting solution attempts.20:51
costi4uhi20:51
xanguapr0t: then just use it20:51
costi4uI put kill -9 -1 on terminal and my pc is crashed20:51
costi4uwhat should i do20:52
bekkscosti4u: Reboot, and never type that again?20:52
costi4uok20:52
pr0txangua, I would like to know how to replace the default bar though completely with it?20:52
izaguys, please, any help with this error message from boot-repair? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7936280/20:53
pr0txangua: no quick reply to that?20:53
MonkeyDustpr0t  install cairo dock, logout, switch to cairo, login20:53
pr0tMonkeyDust: won't that take me to classic Gnome with cairo-dock? I want Gnome shell with cairoDock20:54
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MonkeyDustpr0t  that sounds like Frankenbuntu, not sure if you can mix DE's just like that20:55
pr0tDE?20:55
MonkeyDustdesktop environmrent20:55
MonkeyDust-r20:55
pr0twell...20:56
pr0tit's not really mixing windows managers20:56
pr0tit's just stopping one application and starting another right?20:56
OerHekspr0t, one way to find out20:56
pr0tI can run cairo dock inside of gnome shell just fine, but that doesn't git rid of the gnome shell application menu20:57
pr0tand their is unexpected behavior with them both running, which it was I want to figure out how to disable the default app bar20:57
MonkeyDustpr0t  i think you want too much20:57
pr0tlol20:58
pr0tI want to much because I want to slightly customize my windows manager?20:58
pr0ts/to/too20:58
MonkeyDustpr0t  what you want is a completely new DE20:58
pr0tno...20:58
pr0tyou're very silly.20:58
MonkeyDustpr0t  no, you want to customize the DE20:58
MonkeyDustpr0t  and no need to start calling people names20:59
pr0tOK, we are done talking.20:59
MonkeyDustpr0t  in short: what you want is not possible20:59
pr0tNo, it is not, you just don't know how to do it.20:59
pr0tI am running Cairo dock in Gnome shell right now, I know it's possible to remove the other bar, people customize the heck out of them all the time for the 1,000s of Gnome shell themes out there.21:00
pr0tMonkeyDust, any questions?21:01
grobe0bapr0t why not use a different wm that is actually good for theming21:01
grobe0bainstead of abusing one that isnt21:01
pr0tGnome shell is good for theming.... people do it all the time, go google gnome shell themes.21:01
pookyTheme and replacing components might be slightly different things :)21:02
pr0tgnome shell even supports widgets, that makes it highly customizable21:02
pr0tWhat are you guys talking about?21:02
pr0tGnome shell was designed to be highly customizable...21:02
pr0tYou guys are talking out of your butts.21:02
OerHekspr0t, do some reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock  to enable cairo dock as your only dock, logout etc21:02
OerHekspr0t, oke i stop helping, good luck with it21:03
pr0tOerheks, thank you, that is exactly what I wanted21:03
pr0ta hey here is the link now rtfm, thats exactly what I wanted21:03
grobe0baif you dont want the help we are trying to give21:03
OerHekspr0t, that is exactly as MonkeyDust suggested21:03
grobe0bathen get the fuck out21:03
pr0tbut saying its not possible and im done cause i want to remove major components and its impossible is stupid21:03
grobe0balearn ti google cunt21:04
pr0ts/done/dumb21:04
pr0tcunt?21:04
pr0twhooa, come on guys...21:04
MonkeyDustpr0t  you ask for help and then start swearing to people, that's not polite, is it21:04
pr0tcan't you have a disagreement without calling names?21:04
pr0tI did not swear, I said silly and butt.21:04
pr0tneither are swears.21:04
MonkeyDustpr0t  no profanities here, please21:04
pr0tand I only got difference when trolls couldn't answer my question so they start to bash me and my idea of what I want to do21:05
pr0ts/difference/defensive/21:05
pr0theh21:05
MonkeyDust!coc | pr0t21:05
ubottupr0t: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv21:05
pr0twhat about the guy who just called me the c word?21:05
pr0tlol...21:05
IdleOnepr0t: I suggest you try to be nicer to the people trying to help you. Reading the guidelines linked in the topic will explain a little bit what is expected of you and everyone else in Ubuntu channels21:06
IdleOnepr0t: he is gone.21:06
IdleOneworry about your behaviour21:06
pr0tIdle0ne: please scroll up and look at what i typed21:06
pr0ti was very polite and nice21:06
pr0tand I became defensive when someone said oh what you want is stupid and can't be done21:06
pr0tspecially when I know it can be done.21:07
IdleOneanyway, lets move on now.21:07
pr0tyeah, after I am trolled, and use logic then you want to move on.21:07
pr0tsure, lets...21:07
pr0tif this is any indication of how the ubuntu community behave I think I would have to boycott it ;))21:08
pr0ts/behave/behaves21:08
IdleOneok21:08
awrsrmequestion:  I mounted an external drive using disks after a fresh format.  shows up in files, but not within a specific program im trying to save files with (rstudio, recovering a dead raid).  is there something to be done with how I mount this drive? or maybe its an rstudio issue? running 14.04 trusy tahr21:09
Erika22 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1jnWNBn21:09
thevoidhey guys i'm having an issue with my samba shares,  they are reading as only having the same amount of freespace as my / mount,  anyone have any idea why?21:10
daneshello, anyone knows where can I find a fix for vidalia? (process:2491): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, 0 matched rules; type="method_call", sender="(null)" (inactive) interface="org.freedesktop.DBus" member="Hello" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)21:10
bagel`if i have a text file full of strings, and i know the word "schoolbus" is somewhere in the middle of the file.. how can i open file.txt and start right at schoolbus? like instead of nano file.txt and then ctrl+w and then look for schoolbus.. how can i start on that line?21:11
bagel`any ideas21:11
bagel`im trying to open a file and start at a specific defined string using nano (if thats even possible)21:11
bagel`or if theres a way to determine what line number the string "schoolbus" is at in file.txt21:11
bagel`then i could use that line number to open through nano21:11
Phil42grep -n21:12
izaberaafter 20 minutes, i hope it's ok to repeat my question:21:13
izabera[20:52] <iza> guys, please, any help with this error message from boot-repair? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7936280/21:13
fridaynextthis is my /etc/exports, and I can connect to my NFS shares, but I can't write to them. Can anyone see any settings I have that are blatantly wrong? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0s8FnRQM21:13
Marlenee!paste21:16
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Marlenee!screenshots21:16
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golferohey21:20
golferoiv installed libre office with this comman sudo apt-get libreoffice, but now i dont see the libreoffice in my ubuntu office section21:20
golferocan anyone help me with this complicated problem21:20
golferoi mean is there any expert out there21:21
guntbertgolfero: your "office section"? what is that?21:21
fridaynextMarlenee: was my comment too long for you?21:21
golferoguntbert,  i mean my ubuntu office section21:21
golferolike u know.. menue-office-libreoffice21:22
golferoand another problem is that, if downloaded the torrent of libreoffice , that comes up with a debian folder21:23
guntbertgolfero: press the "win" key to invoke the dash, the type   writer21:23
guntbert*then21:23
golferonothing comes guntbert21:23
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guntbertgolfero: do you get the dash?21:24
voyagerliveguntbert,  yep21:24
voyagerlivedash means where u search right?21:25
guntbertvoyagerlive: please don't change nicks during a conversation - yes, where you search - what do you get when you just type     lib   (and wait a little)21:26
Vampire-Bill14.04 wine or play on linux for trying to get smite working for son21:26
basketballhow can i do this from a script gksudo gedit /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/intel-audio-powersave Find this line:21:27
basketballINTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} and comment it out by putting a "#" in front of it like this:21:27
basketball# INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} Just below this line you make a new line, like this:21:27
basketballINTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=false So now you will have:21:27
basketball# INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=false21:27
voyagerliveguntbert,  i only get the .gz file of libreoffice that i have downloaded from torrent.21:28
basketballvoyagerlive, are you trying to install 4.321:28
voyagerlivebasketball,  yep21:28
basketballhang on i have it up in chrome21:29
guntbertvoyagerlive: please open a terminal and type    apt-cache policy libreoffice21:29
guntbert!paste | basketball21:29
ubottubasketball: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:29
basketballvoyagerlive, copy and paste this in one line in  terminal21:30
voyagerliveguntbert,  it says install : none21:30
basketballvoyagerlive,  do you have old version of libre installed21:30
CorgiShould I dual boot win8 and ubuntu?21:30
voyagerlivebasketball,  no21:31
Vampire-BillCorgi: why21:31
basketballok voyagerlive  type this in one line  wget http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/deb-x86/4.3.0/en-US/LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz && tar -xzvf LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz21:31
basketball && cd LibreOffice_4.3.0.4_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS && sudo dpkg -i *.deb21:31
CorgiVampire-Bill, I want to use ubuntu.21:31
basketball wget http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/deb-x86/4.3.0/en-US/LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz && tar -xzvf LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz21:31
basketball && cd LibreOffice_4.3.0.4_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS && sudo dpkg -i *.deb21:31
basketballmy bad21:31
voyagerlivebasketball,  iv downloaded the torrent file of libreoffice, now i dont know how to install it21:32
Vampire-BillCorgi: it is up to you, have you dual booted os before21:32
CorgiVampire-Bill, No, and I'm scared that it'll break my computer and I won't be able to use it21:32
Vampire-BillCorgi: than read about it first make sure that you are comfortable with it first than do it21:33
Vampire-Billyou wont break anything just might have to reinstall21:33
Vampire-BillCorgi: have the fun is breaking something and learning how to fix it21:33
guntbertvoyagerlive: ok, so type    apt-cache policy libre-office-writer21:33
CorgiVampire-Bill, But the not-so-fun part is that I'm risking money.21:34
basketballvoyagerlive, did my command work21:34
Vampire-BillCorgi: what money are you risking using windows you have everything backed up21:34
Vampire-BillCorgi: you need to read21:35
guest132I am wondering if I make a ubuntu server version 14 a standalone web server or database server or dns or dhcp or...etc how many clients can uses this server on a large network before I have to start worrying about resources. Assuming I have the top server hardware or a reasonably good hardware that I am running this ubuntu os on ?21:37
clark__hi,  If I run sudo su I become root, is that normal ?21:38
guest132I am looking for an approximation is it 10 , 100 , 1000 people some sort of gage so I know when to get another server or start doing clustering/load balancing techquies21:38
svenxclark__: it's super normal21:38
OerHeksclark__, yes.21:38
clark__I don't understand that, I can for example edit the sudo file21:39
svenxguest132: it depends entirely on the load per request and the frequency and distribution of requests. expect thousands for easy stuff21:39
OerHeksclark__, he 1st account made during install has root priv, and there are more diff between ubuntu and other linux versions.21:39
OerHekshe-the21:39
guest132say accessing a website21:39
guest132or websites21:40
guntbertclark__: yes, but usually you type    sudo -i   if you *really* need a root shell (and don't forget to exit as soon as possible)21:40
svenxguest132: depends on the cost of serving each page. if you add caching (varnish, for example), you could serve loads of users21:40
clark__OerHeks, yes I running from the first created account in xubuntu, but this must  be a security issue ? should I run from a account that have the same password as root ?21:42
guntbert!sudo | clark__21:43
ubottuclark__: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo21:43
OerHeksclark__, there is no security issue, afaik21:43
OerHeksclark__, that is the way ubuntu is designed.21:44
guntbertclark__: the root account is not acrivated by default21:44
guntbert*activated21:44
guntbert!root | clark__21:44
ubottuclark__: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo21:44
guest132ok but would I be correct in saying in most cases web servers , dns , dhcp , ntp would be relatively much lighter resource wise then file server or database server  interms resources21:44
guest132intensity21:45
clark__guntbert,  I get confused ? running "whoami" return "root". Is it something I am restricted to do using this (fake?) root account ?21:47
guest132so for web server I am looking for a sort of average min / max /range of people it would host if the pages where just static servering. I crap I guess that would depend on the download/upload speeds of the company... so there is many ways to speed up or slow down the resources. But the resources can only be as fast as the weakest link / bottleneck i.e if the server is much faster then the network client computers download/upload spe21:48
guest132eds , if the router is slowing the process down ,...and much more issues. I guess thats why we have all this snmp and other management Qos tools to21:48
guntbertclark__: after    sudo su    you really are root - exit that shell and you are "yorself" again, in the future just use    sudo (like ubottu sent to you)21:48
baegleOh man. Skype! How much do we love Skype! amiright? What's the way to debug a core dump in the latest version of MonkeyLoving Skype?21:49
guest132never mind what I wanted is an example of a typical small , medium , and large business/company and what there server / network topology looks like. Is it more like 1 server hosting all the clients services , or 10 , 100 , are most services standalone servers for each services ?21:50
clark__guntbert, in the link it say "By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as Root directly or use the su command to become the Root user. " I am using su and am root21:50
guest132Any examples for each or a jpeg of each21:51
guntbertclark__: thats because you gav *two* commands   -  sudo enables you to type any command with root permissions,  su   calls a shell as root21:52
guntbertclark__: but you cannot just type   su   to get a root shell21:52
clark__guntbert,  ok , now I understand what you mean, sorry21:53
guntbertclark__: no problem :) we learn by asking :)21:53
clark__guntbert, still is it not strange that you so easy can get so strong permissions ? and what is really the difference between be sudo root and just root.  you can do as much harm as both ?21:55
voyagerlive i am trying to extract a tar.gz and i get this error stdin: not in gzip format    tar: Child returned status 1    tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now21:55
voyagerlivedo i solve it21:56
rwwvoyagerlive: what's the output of "file filename.tar.gz"21:57
guntbertclark__: it is your computer, isn't it? The sudo mechanism is mainly to remind you when you are doing administrative work - thats why we usually just use sudo <command>, so we get root permissions just for one command21:57
voyagerlivegzip: stdin: not in gzip format21:57
voyagerlivetar: Child returned status 121:57
voyagerlivetar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now21:57
voyagerliverww21:57
rwwvoyagerlive: that's what happens when you type e.g. "file test.tar.gz"?21:57
voyagerliverww im trying to install libreoffice... .deb.tar.gz file.. then i get this21:58
voyagerlivecraps21:58
rwwvoyagerlive: Libreoffice is in Ubuntu's repositories, just install it from there...21:59
voyagerliverww did that already, it desnt show up after install21:59
voyagerlivei used the sudo apt get install libreoffice21:59
voyagerlivethen it showed installed21:59
voyagerlivebut i dont get it under office menue21:59
clark__guntbert, ok, so it is more a practical thing,  I think I understand, thanks21:59
rwwvoyagerlive: might have to log out and back in or something. the command "localc" (for example) in terminal should work, if you want to test it was installed22:00
voyagerliveim using voyager linux. 12.0422:00
rwwoh.22:00
guntbertclark__: You're welcome22:00
rwwvoyagerlive: go talk to your distribution for support, then22:00
rwwvoyagerlive: we only support actual Ubuntu here22:00
voyagerliverww,  its a ubuntu i guess22:00
rwwvoyagerlive: it's a derivative of Ubuntu with changes that we don't know about or support22:00
voyagerliveokk22:01
voyagerlivethanks22:01
lonewolf11705hi22:05
looferheh22:05
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Dragon64Hello, Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu 14.04 and other varients thereof do not use the dns my router is handing out?22:08
Dragon64internet works fine, just uses some other dns22:08
daftykinsshould do22:08
daftykinswhat are you looking at to come to this conclusion?22:09
daftykinsDragon64: is it because you see 127.0.1.1 in resolv.conf ?22:09
Dragon64I have a 4 year old and use opendns to block porn and such, blcoks things on windows, but ubuntu can get to these sites fine22:09
Dragon64tells me somethings up22:09
daftykinsright and did you configure ubuntu with OpenDNS IPs?22:10
Dragon64no, I am trying to get ubuntu to use the dns settings provided by my router22:10
admin_hi again, this is clark but I login using another account, using this account I am also able to use "sudo su" and become root.22:10
Dragon64I could set it up manually, but I want to know why its not working22:11
daftykinsDragon64: right so you don't know which it's configured with? have a read here - https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/22:11
Dragon64has something changed in the way ubuntu handles these things? It worked correctly in 12.04 withot my intervention22:11
daftykinsit's relevant to all versions since 12.0422:11
admin_now if  I for example want a user to be able to install programs using apt-get but not be able to read content of other users, how do i do that ?22:11
daftykinsadmin_: you should never use 'sudo su' - this is not the correct way to switch to root in ubuntu22:12
admin_daftykins, I know that but the point is that you can, If I want to allow my brother to install programs but not look at my photos in my home folder, how do I do that ?22:14
daftykinsadmin_: don't think you can. one begets the other22:14
admin_daftykins, I can do anything from any account that belong to the sudo group right ?22:16
guest132typically if one installed a ubuntu server 14 on his large company network as a dedicated web server how many clients on average could access the web page before he would need to create another linux server for that services. This is an all linux server network with clients that could be linux , microsoft , mac , or any unix, or computer operating system as a client22:16
daftykinsi have to go now, nn22:16
daftykinsguest132: ask in the channel of your chosen web server, obviously it depends on the hardware spec22:16
guest132provided the hardware and the networking routers/switches where at top degree22:17
guest132some range would it be 10 -100 , 10 -20 , or 10 - 1000 , or 10 - 10000 ?22:18
guest132some average and you can assume the web site is static22:18
daftykinsguest132: ask in the channel of your chosen web server.22:19
eeeeadmin_: you can add apt-get to a list of programs that run as root without asking for the sudo password22:19
fedai_selam22:19
admin_eeee, ok thanks, I think I made a mistake then I say sudoers can do anything in other accounts, I actually just see a README file and a "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" file22:22
eeeeadmin_: in the terminal type sudo visudo22:23
admin_eeee, thanks I think I start to grasp this now : )22:25
admin_*thanks! ,   I think I start to grasp this now : )22:26
Hilikusit looks like my ubuntu is not refreshing the packages upgrades. every 2 o 3 weeks i get a red icon in the task bar saying "the update information is outdated" if i refresh it by hand there's always a bunch of updates pending. what part triggers these catalog updates??22:27
eeeeadmin_: sorry i think it doesn't work, that only lets you run a command without asking for the sudo password, but the user would have to be in the sudo group i think22:27
SchrodingersScatHilikus: there should be a 'Software & Updates' in your settings somewhere, one of those tabs should control that.22:28
eeeeadmin_: it's usually used if you want to run a job automatically and need to enter the sudo password22:28
ramrebol_.22:28
ramrebol_Hi. I have installed ubuntu14.04. All works fine, but after install the nvidia driver (GF 108 M) sugered by ubuntu and reboot the system dont work. How can I solve this without reinstall?22:29
HilikusSchrodingersScat: it always says to check for updates daily22:29
Hilikusit is not doing it though22:29
admin_eeee, np,  .............    I will continue tomorrow, I am really tired and have to sleep,  thanks again22:30
ramrebol_the problem is the nvidia driver sugered by ubuntu, so this is a bug :/22:30
SchrodingersScatHilikus: but how about when it displays them?  There's a setting for security updates (mine was on immediately) and then regular updates (mine was set to weekly, which sounds like you) ;  although, you can always do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ## and I normally do a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:30
eeeeadmin_: np, nighty22:31
daftykinsramrebol_: sounds like a laptop?22:31
weems|macMy mailserver is read only. How do I change it?22:31
ramrebol_daftykins: yes, is a laptop. I suposse that the problem comes with nvidia-prime22:32
daftykinsramrebol_: sounds like you've not setup prime correctly, indeed22:32
Guido1Computer A and B are conected to a switch. The switch is conected to a rooter wich has internet conection. Does A downloads sneller, if B is off instead of downloading too?22:32
daftykinsGuido1: the internet connection is the bottleneck, so of course it will divide the speed.22:33
ramrebol_I just installed the driver sugered by ubuntu. After that I reboot and now the system us frozen before the loggin screen. Then I dont know how can I setup anything22:34
ramrebol_daftykins:22:34
daftykinsdo TTYs work?22:34
daftykinsctrl+alt+F122:35
ramrebol_yes, now I'm in a terminal (atrl+alt+F1) + irssi22:35
daftykinsso login on TTY2 and run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*"22:35
daftykinsthat should restore it to defaults22:36
daftykinsi have to go now, good luck22:36
Guido1daftykins: the conection from the rooter to the internet is glasfiber, but I was thinking about the one cable between the switch and the rooter22:36
daftykinsGuido1: ##networking might be of more use :) I must go now22:36
ramrebol_thanks daftykins for the idea.22:36
ramrebol_daftykins: is done. Now I reboot.22:37
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TheGeneral3how do i tell my brother that i got his girlfriend pregnant?22:38
rwware you kidding me.22:38
TheGeneral3rww:  Need support? This is our break room! Try #ubuntu :)22:39
svenxhe could use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)22:39
svenx "there is a need for understanding but not for vengeance, a need for reparation but not for retaliation, a need for ubuntu but not for victimization"22:39
Guest27929hello22:39
bjorkintoshis there a reason my machine freezes when i attach a usb storage device?22:43
bjorkintoshit never did that under 13.1022:43
luanLH /server irc.rizon.net22:50
tolaI was trying to delete pictures from a camera - I could delete a couple at a time sometimes, but sometimes if I tried one or many I would receive the error message that the file system was read only. Any suggestions? Thanks!23:02
Phoenix22 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1ALEmBS23:05
ice9auto screen lock doesn't however that option is selected!23:06
rwwclearcrap23:06
rwwoops23:06
BananaNipples i'm thinking about paying for the linux foundation course certificate on EdX. I skipped through the course material and did the final exam and i passed the class. I was wondering if the official certification is worth it? it costs $250, it costed $5000 before they put it on edX. I'm in computer science and want to keep my options open for what I want to do in the future and thought this might look good on a23:07
BananaNipplesbeginner level resume. Any advice?23:07
Beldarheh, not so Freudian slip23:07
rwwBeldar: mine, I assume?23:08
Beldarrww, Yeah. ;)23:08
rwwBeldar: I have an alias set from that (with / ;) to /scrollback levelclear -level clientcrap,crap,clientnotices,clienterr23:08
rwwbut yeah, the name is amusing :)23:08
Beldarmust have been a cli command23:08
Beldarah bash23:09
rwwirssi23:09
BananaNipplesnobody can advise me about my question?23:09
BeldarBananaNipples, Sure, do what YOU feel is right, and this is off topic, any answer at best id subjective.23:10
Beldaris*23:11
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BeldarBananaNipples, ##linux might give you subjective answers. ;)23:11
BananaNipplesbut i don't know if its right or not, i'm a newbie and thought i could get opinions from people who knew better23:11
Ig0rHi. Anyone to help me please? How to update skype in Ubuntu. Now not inosible to login... may be need to update.23:13
BeldarBananaNipples, You you feel most satified if you work through the thinking process grasshopper.23:13
BeldarIg0r, Makes you not supported technically here but it seems the skype pages version seems to be the fix at this moment, purge the local if you do this.23:15
alazare619how do i go about removing network manager and just using network interfaces file to static assign a ip?23:15
noobatronOi23:15
[R]does anyone know why in 14.04 dhcpv6 sends the hostname to the server but in 12.04 it doesnt?23:15
noobatronI'm having some trouble with Ubuntu Installation on a USB23:15
Beldar!details | noobatron23:16
ubottunoobatron: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)23:16
noobatronDownloaded that penguin USB converter thing a bob23:16
noobatronbut the Ubuntu ISO file says missing in it23:16
noobatronMissing files23:16
Beldarnoobatron, Handful of usb loaders try till one works. Try to post all the details in a batch not spread around in single posts23:17
Beldarnoobatron, If you name the OS your building I I can give you a few to try.23:18
Beldarin*23:18
Ig0rBeldar: now im try co login, but i see this "Server connect filde" Skype version 2.2.0.3523:18
BeldarIg0r, That is really old what ubuntu release is this?23:19
ramrebolI have ubuntu 14.04, but I can't install nvidia driver (sugered by ubuntu) to my nvidia GF108M (GeForce GT 525M). Has anyone help me?  I suposse that is a bug23:19
noobatronI'll try with this start up disk thingie23:19
Ig0rhot to update Beldar :) give me more info please. i want to update only skype!!!23:20
BeldarIg0r, Need to know your release, if your eol you are not calling the correct repos.23:20
BeldarIg0r, You can find the skype website right?23:21
ramrebolthe system keep frozen just before the loggin windows appears (alter install the nvidia driver)23:21
Ig0rBeldar: may be yes.23:22
OerHeksIg0r, skype 4.3 update 1-8-2014 is in the repos, for supported ubuntu versions.23:22
Beldarramrebol, A little details in the form of cause and effect helps in your inquiry. To the channel not me.23:22
BeldarIg0r, I think may be might be a better nick for yah. ;)23:23
ramrebolI have ubuntu 14.04. All works fine, but after install the nvidia driver sugered by ubuntu (nvidia GF108M (GeForce GT 525M))  the system keep frozen just before the loggin windows appears. How can I install this driver?23:24
ramrebolthis is a bug?23:24
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OerHeksGT 525M sounds like dual gpu23:25
ramrebolOerHeks: I suposse :/23:26
happyfr0ggHello, I am back.23:31
happyfr0ggI found a bit of technical genius concerning Ubuntu Live boot images that I would like to share. Any takers???23:32
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Your role here is help or be helped on actual issues like the rest of us, make a blog or something. ;)23:33
happyfr0ggTo revive an installed Ubuntu via a live cd/usb and mount the installed system INTO your Live system and work with it as if you had actually booted it, go  here...http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7937463/23:34
Beldarhappyfr0gg, YOU have reloaded the mbr from a chroot, congratulations, done in countable times here daily.23:35
Beldar you would run the update after the install by the way23:36
happyfr0ggBeldar - what do you mean by me reloading the mbr (Master Boot Record) from a chroot?23:38
Beldarhappyfr0gg, That is what your paste is.23:38
happyfr0ggOh.23:39
Beldarhappyfr0gg, YOU chrooted to the install and put the grub from it into the nbr sda23:39
Beldarmbr*23:39
Beldargood skill to have though, good for you. ;)23:40
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Did you fix the stack install or is this the new install?23:41
DJJeffSKYPE 4.3 FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!23:42
DJJeffYAAAAAAAAAAAAAY23:42
* DJJeff jumps up and down really fast till faints23:42
happyfr0ggBeldar - I have yet to fix the stack install. I have been doing tons of reading about it.  No new installation.23:43
Matt23423TJ: are you here?  This is matt from last night23:43
happyfr0ggLol. Well, the paste just allows me to mount my installed system into the LiveCD/USB so I can try to fix the stack install I completed a few days ago.23:43
gremlynjust upgraded my htpc to 14.04 from 12.04 and now I have no desktop23:43
ajay_?????????23:44
gremlynI tried killing Xorg via CLI and selecting gnome instead of Ubuntu, and just loads to the background and that's it23:44
gremlynno menu bars, no windows, no right click context menu, just a mouse pointer and a background23:44
gremlyntried it under my user and guest user user too, just to be sure23:45
WilsonMhmmCan someone help me understand why Ubuntu throws up "Input/ Output" errors when copying data to USB? Is this a USB problem... A Ubuntu problem?23:46
happyfr0ggThanks to this piece of advice, I can see some light at the once dark tunnel to my problem.  :-)23:47
happyfr0gg* end23:47
WilsonMhmmSometimes only part of the file is copied sometimes none at all or sometimes all is copied.23:47
RalliasIs there an RSS feed to watch for package updates to a specific package?23:50
Beldarhappyfr0gg, That chroot puts you in the root terminal in the install so yes you could theoretically fix it.23:52
DJJeffI need help with cross compile gcc... how do I CC for armv4 ?23:53
BeldarRallias, Not a rss feed probably but checking the repos would work.23:53
RalliasOk... is there a way to get notified if I'm not on a ubuntu computer of specific package updates?23:54
BeldarRallias, An update -dist-upgrade apt-get style will tekk yah23:54
alazare619i only have ssh access to my server currently23:54
Beldaralazare619, And?23:54
alazare619how do i remove network-manager and have it re initalize over ssh23:54
RalliasSo basically DIY.23:54
RalliasGotchya.23:54
happyfr0ggBeldar - yes. Once I initiate these sequence of commands, I could theoretically use the graphics stack that is included on the LiveCD (not my laptop) and be able to use Unity, Uopdate Manager or Synaptic Package Manager to install the CORRECT files.23:55
happyfr0ggThus fixing the missing Unity log in screen issue that I and so many other Ubuntu 12.04+ users have experienced.23:56
alazare619sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager (ive already configured /etc/network/interfaces) && sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth023:56
WilsonMhmmAny ideas, I find it hard to believe three USB devices are damaged resulting in failed copies of data but work fine with another OS.23:56
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Not exactly correct, your in the root of the install the desktop is the live, yes you could load apps from the install, kinda a cumbersome approach a re-install would fix.23:56
BeldarWilsonMhmm, sure ncorrupted fat or ntfs will make it a linux problem.23:57
Beldarcorrupted*23:57
happyfr0ggWow. My head exploded.23:57
alazare619Beldar, does that seem correct?23:57
Beldaralazare619, No idea.23:57
Beldarhappyfr0gg, Heh, gather it up and keep going, you are learning. ;)23:58
happyfr0ggI don't want to reinstall since I don't have a backup.23:58

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