[00:02] <dr_jkl> how can i reliably determine what acpi_osi strings are valid for my bios?
[00:03] <usr13> hakim: YOu shouldn't have to reboot just to test a fstab entry.
[00:03] <usr13> hakim: sudo mount -a
[00:04] <usr13> hakim: mount
[00:05] <usr13> hakim: Or,  mount /particular/mount/point
[00:07] <hakim> i have spent all day on this @ usr13 ... thanks for your help..but i will have to give it another try some other day.. i have run out of time today
[00:08] <hakim> thanks for your help @ TJ-
[00:12] <Beldar> koell, installing unsupported apps to save on battery time is not a good trade off. ;)
[00:13] <koell> lol, doesnt matter if supported or not, aptik will not drain that much power for the few seconds it is running
[00:14] <eskrima> hi can anyone help me with the installation disk to unbuntu. the cd is for windows. i have installed wine. it appears that is not working. so far i have opened the cd until i came to install.exe. it did work, and it did created an desktop icon for me to access my programs im trying to use. than when i click on the foler that was just created on desktop, as well as a wine icon it doesnt work. the wine icon when opened it says ......
[00:14] <eskrima> that i dont have a windows program to open this program....
[00:14] <Beldar> koell, Does not matter to me but that is not critical thinking all in all.
[00:14] <eskrima> when i open the other file that is contained in the cd it doesnt evey open.... huuuh
[00:15] <eskrima> please any help will be apprecaiated
[00:15] <Brant> I'm having an issue with ubuntu not going to a GUI after typing in username/pass. Can anyone help out? We can go to PMs if it's easier
[00:16] <eskrima> i have ubuntu 12.04 lts... wine is installed. something is wrong with the wine or i dont know ... no windows cd will work or mount or play. just installed and sit there like a sac of patatoes
[00:16] <dotDeb> brant can you elaborate on what exactly is happening instead?
[00:16] <veryhappy> eskrima: what windows version should this program you're trying to use run on?
[00:16] <Brant> sure thing dotDeb
[00:16] <Beldar> Brant, You want peer review of the channel, give some details a little cause and effect, when installed details help.
[00:16] <Brant> When I type in username user and password user, it just gives me the command user@chrubuntu:~$
[00:17] <eskrima> veryhappy it says tthat is used on windows 7, vista, ir XP
[00:17] <dotDeb> eskrima have you tried PlayOnLinux?  It is a frontend that could simplify things for you
[00:17] <veryhappy> did you set this up in wineconfig?
[00:17] <Brant> When I type in install ubuntu-desktop gave me: E: failed to fetch (website) Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[00:17] <eskrima> dotdeb really let me see what is that
[00:17] <veryhappy> eskrima: did you set this up in wineconfig?
[00:17] <dotDeb> eskrima apt-get install playonlinux
[00:18] <eskrima> veryhappy what is this.. sorry
[00:18] <Beldar> eskrima, Not everything windows works on wine, have you checked for any compatibility with wine?
[00:18] <Brant> apt-get update gives me
[00:18] <Brant> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:18] <veryhappy> dotDeb: he can try that if that program is there but if it is don't there it wont help him anyway
[00:18] <eskrima> dotdeb thank you can you please really quick guide me tru terminal steps
[00:18] <veryhappy> eskrima: you need wineconfig to set some things up..
[00:18] <eskrima> beldar noo... dont know how
[00:18] <bazhang> is this a wubi install eskrima
[00:18] <dotDeb> brant so you type your username and password into the GUI and then you get a command line?
[00:18] <Brant> yes
[00:19] <eskrima> bazhang what is wubi..?
[00:19] <dotDeb> eskrima just type: sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[00:19] <Brant> and the password doesnt actually type anything, if that helps at all
[00:19] <dotDeb> eskrima then type in your password
[00:19] <bazhang> eskrima, an ubuntu install done from within windows
[00:19] <veryhappy> eskrima: wubi means ubuntu is not really installed on your harddisk physically as far as i know
[00:19] <Beldar> eskrima, The wine website has compatible info.
[00:19] <dotDeb> brant I am unclear as to what is happening exactly
[00:20] <veryhappy> eskrima: you can either install ubuntu in virtualbox if you still want to have it virtually or install it on your harddisk physically
[00:20] <Brant> When I launch ubuntu, it gives me a DOS/BIOS type page that says 'chrubuntu login' and 'Password'
[00:21] <Brant> when I type in user/user it gives me user@chrubuntu:~$
[00:21] <dotDeb> veryhappy wubi isn't a virtual install, it just installs Ubuntu as if it were a program inside Windows afaik
[00:21] <eskrima> veryhapp ooooo that is why. when i bought my laptop it was originally windows 8. then i reallized that my bios is completely new and doesnt like ubuntu. so i had a hard time installing ubuntu cd/and from the webiste. so finally i made it somehow so yea its probably not even istalled...
[00:21] <veryhappy> guys: need help with my keyboard... lenovo s205 (netbook) with gnome the keyboard work perfectly, since i changed to kde it sometimes pastes text while i'm writing randomly when i press the space key...
[00:21] <eskrima> veryhappy its really hard to install it on my hard disk.. dont know why tho
[00:21] <Beldar> oh my wubi on a uefi
[00:21] <dotDeb> brant uhhhh what kind of install did you do?
[00:21] <dotDeb> brant ubuntu should open with a GUI username and password page
[00:22] <veryhappy> dotDeb: ok, got that... never did it only installled it virtually or physically
[00:22] <veryhappy> eskrima: you have 2 or more pcs?
[00:22] <Brant> im on an Acer C720 chromebook, I did the curl -L -O http://goo.gl/9sgchs; sudo bash 9sgchs install prompt
[00:22] <Brant> yeah im never getting to a GUI :(
[00:22] <eskrima> yes
[00:22] <dotDeb> veryhappy Wubi was my introduction to linux, I am very happy that it was there back then
[00:22] <dotDeb> brant did you ever try a live cd?
[00:23] <eskrima> dotdeb what after the installation... should i do someting like sudo apt-get update? :D
[00:23] <dotDeb> eskrima no, if it's installed it's done
[00:23] <veryhappy> eskrima: whenever you get a problem type it in google search for it and if you don't find anything just come here
[00:23] <dr_jkl> AHA
[00:23] <Brant> No, chromebooks dont have CD drives
[00:23] <dotDeb> eskrima just open playonlinux from unity
[00:23] <dr_jkl> SUCCESS.
[00:23] <dotDeb> brant: live usb?
[00:23] <fridaynext> i'm trying to create the filesystem for the RAID5 array I've just created.  I'm using this calculator, but the settings are different for xfs (what I'm trying to do) than ext3 (what the calculator shows)
[00:23] <fridaynext> http://uclibc.org/~aldot/mkfs_stride.html
[00:23]  * dotDeb has so many usb drives with various distros on them
[00:23] <eskrima> veryhappy yeah that is what i did... i went to couple of forums for wine and windows issue but nothing concrete.. thank you for the time. sorry if is a petty issue
[00:24] <Brant> Nope, from every guide on the internet it just says to get it from curl -L -O http://goo.gl/9sgchs; sudo bash 9sgchs
[00:24] <dotDeb> eskrima did playonlinux open?
[00:24] <eskrima> dotdeb what is unity and how to open
[00:24] <eskrima> it just finished to install...
[00:24] <fridaynext> What is the 'stripe unit (su)' in xfs?
[00:24] <veryhappy> eskrima: wine could work for some programs but if that don't work better try playonlinux it really works well for most applications...
[00:24] <dotDeb> brant oh i just realized there's a separate distro for chromebooks
[00:25] <dotDeb> eskrima open playonlinux like you'd open any other program
[00:25] <eskrima> veryhappy thank you im trying to work with it now.. it just installed
[00:25] <veryhappy> eskrima: unity is a window manager
[00:25] <dotDeb> eskrima or you can just type playonlinux into the terminal
[00:25] <Beldar> dotDeb, Maybe you should take over it's support since there is none.
[00:25] <Brant> i think the only one out is chrubuntu (which is what im using) and crouton, which i dont want to use because it runs inside chrome os
[00:25] <eskrima> dotdeb veryhappy i dont have installed unity....hmmmm
[00:25] <dotDeb> wait so regular ubuntu doesn't run on chromebooks?
[00:25] <dotDeb> eskrima you probably do
[00:25] <eskrima> dotdeb veryhappy i dont have installed unity....hmmmm. ok let me try opening it from my dashboard
[00:25] <veryhappy> eskrima: what did you have installed kde?
[00:25] <dotDeb> eskrima what version of ubuntu?
[00:26] <dotDeb> eskrima it doesn't matter anyways, just type playonlinux in the terminal
[00:26] <Brant> afaik it doesnt dotDeb
[00:26] <dotDeb> beldar uhh I wouldn't know what to do
[00:26] <eskrima> dotdebt 12.4 lts veryhappy i dont know what is kde
[00:26] <dotDeb> beldar too busy learning android development
[00:26] <veryhappy> eskrima: kde is a window manager too
[00:26] <fridaynext> is xfs 'stripe unit' the same as the ext RAID 'chunk size'?
[00:27] <eskrima> dotdeb just using it now.. it will guide me throu.. just a moment. will be back
[00:27] <eskrima> oooh ok veryhappy
[00:27] <veryhappy> dotDeb: http://developer.android.com/index.html there you go, quite easy just go your way through the training...
[00:27] <dotDeb> veryhappy neither are window managers I believe
[00:27] <dotDeb> veryhappy I am aware
[00:27] <dotDeb> eskrima ok, let me know when you're back
[00:28] <eskrima> dotdeb so it appears that the wine is getting configured while installing playonlinus.. is that how it works..togheter? or should i uninstall wine??
[00:28] <veryhappy> dotDeb: what does he want to do know, eskrima?
[00:28] <dotDeb> veryhappy they are graphical shells not window managers fyi
[00:28] <dotDeb> eskrima no that's fine, playonlinux is a wine frontend
[00:29] <dotDeb> eskrima just put the cd in and click install
[00:29] <Beldar> dotDeb, The ubuntu community thanks you,  ;)
[00:29] <dotDeb> beldar :D for?
[00:29] <Beldar> dotDeb, Being to busy.
[00:29] <veryhappy> dotDeb: look in wikipedia before you try telling me something new... :) i'm not new to linux...
[00:29] <eskrima> dotdeb ok so the one program i installed before playonlinux and is already there.. should i remove it and install all over again? or just install again without removing the first one?
[00:29] <veryhappy> dotDeb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
[00:29] <dotDeb> beldar lol
[00:30] <dotDeb> veryhappy that article lists unity and plasma desktop as graphical shells, not window managers
[00:30] <eskrima> dotdeb so anytime i want to open the installed program i just click it normally? or i have to go throu playonlinux?
[00:31] <veryhappy> ok unity not, but i didn't write plasma desktop i wrote kde... and unity ok i was mistaken on that one sorry
[00:31] <dotDeb> veryhappy KDE is a desktop environment not a window manager :P
[00:32] <veryhappy> why is has been listed as window manager?
[00:32] <OERIAS> Unity is the partial reason why a ton of people are abandoning this comercialised distro!
[00:32] <Brant> has anyone installed chrubuntu on a chrombook acer c720?
[00:32] <veryhappy> well ok, let's forget about this, thank you for the information anyway
[00:32] <hakr> lol
[00:32]  * hakr lurks
[00:32] <dotDeb> eskrima I think you go through playonlinux, not entirely certain though
[00:32] <dotDeb> veryhappy sure thing, np
[00:33] <veryhappy> will please someone help me with my netbook? i got a lenovo s205 netbook, i used gnome before and everything worked fine but since using kde my keyboard randomly pastes contents i would only paste when i hit ctrl-v but with my space key?
[00:35] <noobatron> programmer uses cheesepuffs
[00:35] <noobatron> it is super effective
[00:35] <ramkamx> hello
[00:35] <Beldar> mmmmm carbo loading
[00:35] <noobatron> heh furnet is still around
[00:35] <noobatron> this is an active irc
[00:35] <noobatron> :)
[00:35] <ramkamx> i'm getting some troubles with virtual hosts
[00:36] <dotDeb> eskrima did it work?
[00:36] <veryhappy> do you guys know when you type /etc/init.d/service restart and forget the s then it sounds like retard? :D lmao
[00:36] <eskrima> dotdebt sorry just a minute... im trying to understand how to use playonlinux thingy
[00:37] <ramkamx> got a first vhost configured in /etc/apache/sites-xxx and it works servername foo.com & www.foo.com
[00:37] <ramkamx> and when i put the second conf file for another host blog.foo.com it doesnt work
[00:37] <ramkamx> any clue ?
[00:37] <ramkamx> is it the ServerName foo.com that is messing things up ?
[00:39] <noobatron> Test
[00:40] <noobatronreturns> Testing
[00:40] <veryhappy> noobatron Test what?
[00:40] <dotDeb> Test successful
[00:40] <noobatron> :)
[00:40] <veryhappy> lol
[00:40] <dotDeb> veryhappy: testing his ability to send to the channel I assume
[00:40] <veryhappy> ok
[00:40] <noobatronreturns> Yes
[00:41] <veryhappy> dotDeb: you have some idea? since using kde instead of gnome my space key pastes content randomly instead of ctrl-v that pastes content only when i hit it?
[00:41] <dotDeb> veryhappy your space key is pasting stuff? 0.0
[00:41] <veryhappy> yep
[00:41] <ramkamx> any1 can help me with apache / Virtual hosts ?
[00:42] <dotDeb> veryhappy no idea
[00:42] <veryhappy> ramkamx: you really want to use apache? you can also look for the light nginx, and look if you like that more...
[00:42] <dotDeb> veryhappy have you goolged it?
[00:42] <veryhappy> dotDeb: yea but no items like like that showed up
[00:43] <dotDeb> no idea
[00:43] <dotDeb> sorry
[00:43] <ramkamx> veryhappy: i'll do it later, but for now i'm just trying to setup something without spending too much time on discovering new stuff
[00:43] <veryhappy> ramkamx: ok... well it's quite simple you copy the default file and adapt the new file to your needs and activate that file as a new virtual host...
[00:44] <ramkamx> veryhappy: yep, did that. It works for a first vhost, and fails for the second
[00:44] <ramkamx> for the second it shows nothing
[00:44] <ramkamx> so i probably missed a subtility somewhere :-)
[00:45]  * linda__ Por favor ingresen a esta web: http://www.ChatSocial.org para conocer chicos y chicas de Bolivia!!! porfissss entrale shi? dale 2 clicks aqui http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org
[00:45] <veryhappy> the heck?
[00:45]  * linda__ please visit new web: http://www.ChatSocial.org para conocer chicos y chicas de Bolivia!!! porfissss entrale shi? dale 2 clicks aqui http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org
[00:45] <ramkamx> could putting ServerName foo.com and ServerAlias www.foo.com  prevent having a second virtual host called say blog.foo.com ?
[00:45] <veryhappy> LINDA NO SPAM
[00:45]  * linda__ please visit new web: http://www.ChatSocial.org para conocer chicos y chicas de Bolivia!!! porfissss entrale shi? dale 2 clicks aqui http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org http://www.ChatSocial.org
[00:46] <ramkamx> kick ...
[00:46] <veryhappy> could someone please kick linda_
[00:46] <bctrainers> They were removed.
[00:46] <veryhappy> good.
[00:46] <ramkamx> :-)
[00:47] <veryhappy> ramkamx: well did you activate the new vhost with a2ensite?
[00:47] <ramkamx> yeah, almost did it manually with ln -s
[00:47] <ramkamx> same same no ?
[00:47] <eskrima> dotdeb doesnt work
[00:47] <veryhappy> i think it works differently with apache2
[00:48] <eskrima> i can only see pdf files and not the installation program
[00:48] <dotDeb> eskrima care to elaborate?
[00:48] <noobatron> is Ubuntu better than Windows for operating system
[00:48] <ramkamx> worked for the first one. but ok, i'll trash the ln -s and use a2ensite
[00:48] <noobatron> If so, why?
[00:48] <dotDeb> noobatron yes
[00:48] <ramkamx> 1sec
[00:48] <dotDeb> noobatron where should I begin?
[00:48] <eskrima> dodebt cant seem to open the program...or dont know how
[00:48] <Beldar> noobatron, This is ubuntu support not chat and thst is offtopic in any ubuntu channel.
[00:48] <dotDeb> noobatron it is better in just about every way besides compatiblity with the most recent games, and even that is improving
[00:48] <dotDeb> yea we should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[00:49] <Beldar> dotDeb, Don;t reply to thta
[00:49] <veryhappy> eskrima: you should just open playonlinux and then it should automatically install your game
[00:49] <Beldar> that*
[00:49] <eskrima> dotdebit veryhappy it didnt automaticly
[00:49] <dotDeb> eskrima did the install work?
[00:49] <ramkamx> veryhappy: same problem
[00:49] <dotDeb> beldar why not?
[00:49] <ramkamx> and i dont see anything in error.log
[00:50] <veryhappy> ramkamx: hold on...
[00:50] <eskrima> dotdeb veryhappy i opened playonlinux and it just stayed there empty.. didnt brought up nothing. than i wen to click install on the button and i found my cd program . installed. created desktop icon still doesnt work. when i click it doesnt open and load up
[00:50] <eskrima> dotdeb the install worked buti cant use it...
[00:51] <veryhappy> ramkamx: which version? 14.04?
[00:51] <ramkamx> yep
[00:51] <dotDeb> eskrima so there were no errors on install?
[00:51] <eskrima> dotdeb it went fine with no problem the installation but i cant access it. bummer
[00:51] <eskrima> \yes
[00:51] <dotDeb> eskrima what happens when you run it from within playonlinux?
[00:52] <noobatron> Does Ubuntu work with Lua
[00:52] <eskrima> i cant.. beacause it is just showing again the install.exe not the real installed operation file
[00:52] <veryhappy> ramkamx: did you first create your directory structure?
[00:52] <eskrima> dotdeb if i run it from playonlinux will install again all over not run
[00:52] <ramkamx> veryhappy: yep, it's there, and chowned to www-data
[00:53] <dotDeb> eskrima you need to run it not click install
[00:53] <veryhappy> ramkamx: good. next step permissions are set, like you wrote it...did you set up an example site?
[00:53] <ramkamx> veryhappy: i've cloned the content of the first site with cp -r
[00:53] <eskrima> dotdeb the button run it doesnt execute no actions just can click on it all day long..
[00:53] <ramkamx> wordpress ...
[00:53] <veryhappy> ramkamx: should work too..
[00:54] <ramkamx> hopefully :-)
[00:54] <veryhappy> veryhappy: you can chase me with wordpress :P
[00:54] <dotDeb> eskrima if run does nothing then I don't think it's going to work.  what are you trying to install anyways?
[00:54] <ramkamx> chase you ? :-)
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i am using kernel 3.2.0-67 on ubuntu 12.04.4
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> what kernel should i have
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> without upgrading the whole distro?
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> is that one still right or am i out of date/
[00:55] <sergio-br2> Hi, someone having problem with high processing of firefox?
[00:55] <veryhappy> ramkamx: did you restart or reload apache2?
[00:55] <sergio-br2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1341405
[00:55] <ramkamx> of course, tried both
[00:55] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade #And see....
[00:55] <sergio-br2> 270% of CPU
[00:55] <eskrima> dotdeb it is a cd for my exam prep course which in windows should be autoplay after installation. this folder contains pdf and prep course and exam.. can only see pdf files.. the rest is dead
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> i did all upgrades, slash udates usr13
[00:55] <sergio-br2> burn as hell
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> so that means i am fine
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> would it inform me if i need to upgrade anything manually?
[00:56] <joseluis64> It is normal that Xorg is using right now 122.6 MB of RAM?
[00:56] <eskrima> dotdeb how can i run a cd program form terminal
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> it will constantly do it automatically?
[00:56] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Correct.
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> someone said before i was using an outdated kernel
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> and had to upgrade
[00:56] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Not automatically...
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> but running those commands said i was up to date
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> i am still using percise
[00:56] <Beldar> sergio-br2, Have you tried a restart without addons and checked the individually?
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> usr13, that is fine right?
[00:56] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: For 12.04 it is not an outdated kernel.
[00:56] <Beldar> them*
[00:56] <veryhappy> eskrima: you can but only if it supports that.
[00:56] <sergio-br2> yeah Beldar
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> precise*
[00:57] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Yes
[00:57] <Psil0Cybin> okay good
[00:57] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[00:57] <sergio-br2> Beldar, try this site: High usage of CPU in Firefox
[00:57] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: NP
[00:57] <eskrima> dotdeb i think that playonlinux is not even asking me to select my cd.... not even a wizard
[00:57] <Beldar> sergio-br2, Checked each addon individually
[00:57] <sergio-br2> this trigger something in firefox
[00:57] <eskrima> oh
[00:57] <sergio-br2> Beldar, I disable all addon
[00:57] <veryhappy> eskrima: how new are you to linux btw?
[00:57] <Beldar> that is not a site link sergio-br2
[00:58] <sergio-br2> ah
[00:58] <sergio-br2> sorry
[00:58] <sergio-br2> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/13/israeli-troops-clash-with-hamas-as-gaza-death-toll-continues-to-spiral
[00:58] <Wug> has anyone had any luck getting ubuntu to recognize and use 2 nvidia graphics cards without having to manually configure everything in xorg.conf
[00:58] <eskrima> veryhappy kind of new. but i know my way around. its just with the windows i have problem using it here. not all programs tho. i know some commands on terminal but that is it
[00:58] <dotDeb> eskrima what exe are you selecting to do the install? and what are you installing?
[00:58] <joseluis64> Wug I think not...
[00:59] <dotDeb> oh exam prep course
[00:59] <dotDeb> just saw
[00:59] <eskrima> dotdeb setup.exe :)
[00:59] <Wug> joseluis64: well that's really unfortunate
[00:59] <dotDeb> eskrima ok that's good
[00:59] <joseluis64> Wug I know...
[00:59] <Beldar> sergio-br2, You bug is a month old and has no answers or confirmation.
[00:59] <dotDeb> eskrima dunno what to tell you
[00:59] <eskrima> dotdeb its funny but all installation went well and now i just dont nkow how to open it.. crayz
[00:59] <joseluis64> Wug So you're using the nvidi drivers rith?
[00:59] <veryhappy> eskrima: well you will have to figure some things out for you at the beginning everybody has to... but you'll get the hang of it the more you use it...
[00:59] <Beldar> 1/2 a month
[01:00] <joseluis64> *right?
[01:00] <sergio-br2> Beldar, yeah, but i can reproduce the problem yet
[01:00] <ramkamx> veryhappy: ive even merged the two files into one, and i have the same issue
[01:00] <dotDeb> eskrima so literally nothing happens when you click on run?
[01:00] <eskrima> dotdeb yes i promise
[01:00] <Beldar> sergio-br2, So?
[01:00] <zacwalls> trying to connect a nook 1.7.0 to xubuntu 13.04 and it doesn't recognize nook as a device.
[01:00] <veryhappy> ramkamx: ... i got here the instructions for apache2 new virtualhosts on 14.04 should i send it to you that you can try it out alone?
[01:00] <sergio-br2> So, it's a bug :)
[01:01] <dotDeb> eskrima is there a "log" option in one of the menu items?
[01:01] <zacwalls> what do you suggest i do?
[01:01] <Beldar> sergio-br2, Not without an answer or any confirmation officially.
[01:01] <joseluis64> someone uses the nvidia driver here?
[01:01] <sergio-br2> Beldar, you can test in your hardware?
[01:01] <ramkamx> veryhappy: isn't apache independant from the disto version ?
[01:01] <veryhappy> joseluis64: me
[01:01] <ramkamx> veryhappy: bu yeah
[01:01] <Beldar> sergio-br2, Firefox is fine here.
[01:01] <daftykins> joseluis64: asking tha actual question would be a good move
[01:01] <sergio-br2> hum
[01:01] <veryhappy> ramkamx: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[01:01] <joseluis64> veryhappy how many RAM it uses Xorg in your computer?
[01:02] <sergio-br2> I will try in other hardware then
[01:02] <ramkamx> veryhappy: yeah read that already
[01:02] <veryhappy> ramkamx: ok...
[01:02] <ramkamx> veryhappy: haven't seen anything insconsistent in what i've done
[01:02] <ramkamx> mystery
[01:02] <Wug> joseluis64: yes
[01:02] <Beldar> sergio-br2, I would start a new user and set it up again.
[01:02] <joseluis64> daftykins It is normal that Xorg is using 122.6 MB of RAM after... half hour?
[01:02] <Wug> I have a quadro card and a 750Ti
[01:02] <sergio-br2> Guest Account?
[01:02] <eskrima> dotdeb no.. im trying something on configure.. and one is to give me local script. but dont know what to type into
[01:02] <fun> hey folks
[01:02] <Wug> they both work if installed individually, but not togethe
[01:02] <Beldar> sergio-br2, No a new firefox user
[01:03] <veryhappy> joseluis64: do i get that out with ps -ax or top or cat /proc/meminfo?
[01:03] <daftykins> joseluis64: no idea
[01:03] <sergio-br2> you mean, delete the folder config of firefox?
[01:03] <Beldar> sergio-br2, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles
[01:03] <sergio-br2> ok
[01:03] <joseluis64> veryhappy I'm using KDE's krunner
[01:03] <ramkamx> veryhappy: something weird, maybe it's the key - i've put for the first ServerName www.foo.com (instead of foo.com)
[01:03] <veryhappy> joseluis64: ok hold on
[01:03] <fun> how I can create QCOW2 disk image of current ubuntu box/
[01:03] <Hexagon> Has anyone read all of the ubutnu chat logs, out of curiosity?
[01:03] <ramkamx> veryhappy: but i still can read http://foo.com
[01:04] <Beldar> sergio-br2, If you run it as saving everything it will get like this after a time, I would have a no save but for passwords.
[01:04] <ramkamx> veryhappy: is there an instruction that "autofixes the missing www" that could be messing things up ?
[01:04] <fun> anyone?
[01:04] <fun> hehe
[01:04] <veryhappy> ramkamx: shouldn't be there afaik
[01:04] <Beldar> !patience | fun
[01:04] <fun> ty
[01:04] <fun> :)
[01:05] <Bashing-om> Wug: Last I checked - a few months back - only Nvidia had a driver for that cutting edge card.
[01:05] <ramkamx> veryhappy: then i should be seeing nothing when i go to http://foo.cpom
[01:05] <veryhappy> ramkamx: but afaik do all browsers insert www. automatically when you type the address without www.
[01:05] <veryhappy> ramkamx: that's the browser that inserts www.
[01:05] <Wug> veryhappy: its not the browser that's doing it
[01:05] <ramkamx> veryhappy: that's browser stuff. ok let bypass it i'll try curling
[01:06] <veryhappy> Wug: ok... what does do it?
[01:06] <Wug> the browser will connect to any domain name you tell it to. if the website wants to redirect you to another site it will use a 302
[01:06] <ProxyLinuxEasy> Algum br?
[01:06] <eskrima> dotdeb in one of the opttions i can run and.exe mayube willl work. just have to find where did it save it
[01:06] <ramkamx> veryhappy: curl behaves the same than the browser
[01:07] <Wug> (many will use this sort of redirect to send you to www.)
[01:07] <ramkamx> and cant resolve the second hostname blog.foo.com
[01:07] <Bashing-om> Wug: Just caufgt up that you are running hybrid graphics to compound the situation. Hybrid = BumbleBee or Primus-prime ... yes ?
[01:07] <TJ-> veryhappy: Some sites will use a mod_rewrite or redirect 302 to the www. FQDN... some browser, if they can't find a server on http://domain.com/ with try http://www.domain.com/
[01:07] <veryhappy> Wug: thanks for the new information :)
[01:07] <Wug> Bashing-om: not hybrid, I have 2 discrete graphics cards and I want to use them both at once
[01:07] <veryhappy> TJ-: is that option not also available in apache2? mod_rewrite?
[01:08] <Wug> I heartell that you can make it work with large amounts of yucky xorg.conf editing
[01:08] <TJ-> veryhappy: that was what I referred to :)
[01:08] <Wug> can we please just kill that file completely
[01:08] <Bashing-om> wug// OH .. teach me not to read ... sorry, no idea how to get both working at same time.
[01:08] <Wug> it sucks and everyone hates it
[01:08] <TJ-> Wug: Are both GPUs supported by the current nvidia driver?
[01:08] <Wug> TJ-: both work if installed individually
[01:08] <fun> https://cloud.runabove.com/horizon/project/images/ any idea how fast is QCOW2 I/O?
[01:08] <Wug> so im going to call it "probably"
[01:08] <veryhappy> joseluis64: i got here an irq/47-nvidia
[01:09] <joseluis64> veryhappy what is that?
[01:09] <TJ-> Wug: What happens when you connect them at the same time? can you pastebin the "/var/log/dmesg" that results from that? My bet is the PCI bridge doesn't have a large enough window and can't assign the BARs
[01:09] <veryhappy> joseluis64: probably my nvidia driver.. hold on
[01:10] <TJ-> Wug: You may have one of those logs archived as a dmesg.X.gz which you can locate and send, you'll need to use zcat to decompress them
[01:10] <TJ-> Wug: "zcat /var/log/dmesg*.gz | grep 'NVRM.*BAR' will help you discover if one of them has captured a failed BAR allocation
[01:11] <Wug> TJ-: dmesg looks very boring, only the usual stuff about network config and filesystem mounting
[01:11] <ramkamx> veryhappy: think i got it, it's not apache, it's my zone settings at godaddy ...
[01:11] <ramkamx> cant remember, what's the CNAME to redirect all that is not defined to @ ?
[01:11] <TJ-> Wug: if it failed you'd see something like this: "[   13.675903] NVRM: BAR0 is 0M @ 0x0 (PCI:0000:0f:00.0)"
[01:11] <Wug> nothing like that
[01:11] <ax562> hello
[01:12] <Wug> both devices are shown in lspci
[01:12] <TJ-> Wug: You've checked all the compressed dmesg files with that command?
[01:12] <TJ-> Wug: OK ... "sudo lspci -knnvvv | pastebinit"
[01:12] <Wug> I'm only looking in dmesg | less
[01:12] <Wug> give me a minute to check past boots
[01:12] <veryhappy> ramkamx: there you go :)
[01:12] <ax562> I was wondering if anyone could recommend the easiest way to resize my ubuntu filesystem partition on a dual boot system?
[01:13] <veryhappy> ax562: gparted.
[01:13] <Wug> TJ-: nothing in other dmesgs
[01:13] <veryhappy> ax562: be careful you could mess your system up...
[01:13] <ax562> I tried using gparted from a boot disk but it wouldn't work and stated if I did so I would ruin my system
[01:13] <ax562> veryhappy: that's the last thing I want to do
[01:14] <ramkamx> veryhappy - cant remeber - in the CNAM can i use "*" for the host alias so that it covers all ?
[01:14] <joseluis64> ax562 that depends on the partition table of your hd
[01:14] <BSODInTheSky> Welcome, veryhappy!
[01:14] <veryhappy> ax562: make sure you are not using gparted on your system it will block actions
[01:14] <ramkamx> s/CNAM/CNAME/g
[01:14] <Bashing-om> ax562: Dual booting with Windows ?
[01:14] <daftykins> ramkamx: last i checked this wasn't #godaddysupport
[01:14] <ax562> bashing-om: yes with windows 8.1
[01:14] <Wug> TJ-: do you only care about the VGA devices? or do you really want to see all of the rest of the gobbledegook
[01:14] <TJ-> Wug: just the VGA
[01:15] <ax562> would parted work?
[01:15] <TJ-> Wug: but with pastebinit it's easier just to send the lot in one command
[01:15] <veryhappy> BSODInTheSky: thanks how do i deserve this nice welcoming?
[01:15] <ax562> would I have to reconfigure grub before/after?
[01:15] <ProfessorKaos64> Does anyone know where I can find FreeDO (3DO emulator" for linux? I've seen it all over, but all I find are dead links
[01:15] <ramkamx> daftykins: yeah ok, thx
[01:15] <Wug> TJ-: I'm irc-ing on one computer while fixing the other
[01:15] <BSODInTheSky> Type in "/msg <username> <message>"
[01:15] <TJ-> Wug: Ahhh, I see
[01:15] <Wug> so hang on a second there is some overhead when marshalling information
[01:16] <TJ-> Wug: if the other PC has network connectivity, the command I gave you will send the info to pastebin easily
[01:16] <BSODInTheSky> veryhappy: Type in "/msg <username> <message>"
[01:16] <veryhappy> BSODInTheSky: i know what it does... why should I?
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ax562: Carefull ! Win8 = UEFI, advise I have seen is to defrag Windows twice, use Windows to shrink a partition, in windows run 'ckkdsk" twice, reboot twice, and then see what the ubuntu installer will do with the "unallocated" space .
[01:17] <Wug> TJ-: not long enough to bother pastebinning
[01:17] <Wug> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108GL [Quadro 600] [10de:0df8] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[01:17] <Wug> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] [10de:1380] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[01:17] <BSODInTheSky> BSODInTheSky: I'm away now. Sorry.
[01:17] <BSODInTheSky> veryhappy: I'm away now. Sorry.
[01:17] <veryhappy> ax562: you only have to look out if you change the start sectors of grub then you have to reconfigure it...
[01:17] <ax562> Bashing-om: I already used gparted to shrink windows partition but I haven't tried to boot it up yet :/
[01:17] <Wug> I have no xorg.conf right now, and without one the behavior I get is to use only the first card
[01:18] <Xentinel> can someone help me set the nice level for a process through an Upstart script?
[01:18] <cuddylier> Hi
[01:18] <veryhappy> BSODInTheSky: please stop this shit now, period!
[01:18] <TJ-> Wug: That's no use to me, I gave you the command I need you to run
[01:18] <cuddylier> Anyone know a script I could use to check the disk space usage for different directories and then send an email report?
[01:18] <BSODInTheSky> veryhappy: But I am busy. Don't talk to me.
[01:18] <veryhappy> cuddylier: hi, how can we hep you
[01:18] <ax562> veryhappy:  why didn't gparted let me partition?
[01:18] <TJ-> Wug: "sudo lspci -knnvvv | pastebinit"
[01:18] <veryhappy> can please kick someone bsod?
[01:18] <IdleOne> BSODInTheSky: Turn that off now please
[01:18] <Wug> TJ-: I asked you if you needed to see only the vga bits, and you said yes
[01:19] <patrick_> j #windows
[01:19] <patrick_> oops
[01:19] <BSODInTheSky> IdleOnie: I HAVE TO TAKE A P*SS AND A SH*T
[01:19] <TJ-> Wug: but *all* the info about each VGA device :)
[01:19] <Bashing-om> ax562: Fingers crossed, Windows tools to work on the Windows partitions. But, I am aware some have had good results usiong GParted on the Windows partition.// In windows, run 'ckkdsk" . // Be aware, I am not Windows literate !//
[01:19] <ax562> veryhappy: were are the start sectors of grub located?
[01:19] <veryhappy> ax562: if you don't change it with a boot disk then it won't work...
[01:19] <veryhappy> ax562: do you have set up a boot partition?
[01:20] <ax562> veryhappy: not sure.  I have grub setup but not sure if that automatically creates a boot partition.
[01:21] <veryhappy> ax562: nope it don't do it automatically...
[01:21] <ramkamx> veryhappy - thanks
[01:22] <veryhappy> ramkamx: no problem...
[01:22] <veryhappy> ax562: please open a terminal and type sudo fdisk /dev/sda (if that is your harddisk) and hit enter
[01:23] <Wug> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7929016/
[01:23] <Wug> you want 02:00.0
[01:23] <Wug> and 03:00.0
[01:23] <veryhappy> ax562: how many partitions are there listed?
[01:24] <ax562> veryhappy: it didn't work
[01:24] <ax562> how can I verify /dev/xxx
[01:25] <veryhappy> ax562: first tell me if you have the command fdisk supported by your system...
[01:25] <TJ-> Wug: which release of Ubuntu is it, and which kernel version ("lsb_release -r && uname -r") ?
[01:25] <ax562> i do
[01:25] <Wug> 14.04 and 3.13.0-32
[01:25] <ax562> I'm actually booting up gparted.  it should tell me
[01:25] <Wug> x64
[01:26] <ax562> I have sda1-5
[01:27] <veryhappy> ok, then list on here what you got i.e.: sda1-windows, sda2-/, sda3-swap, sda4-home
[01:28] <ax562> sda1 = dell utility, sda2 = ntfs (windows 8.1), sda3 = extended, sda4 = swap, sda5 = ext4 (ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit)
[01:29] <TJ-> Wug: OK, now lets find out which nvidia driver version you have: "dpkg -l 'nvidia*' | grep ^ii "
[01:29] <veryhappy> ax562: very good, thanks...
[01:29] <andrew> i don't see network-manager in /etc/init.d, but i see it is running from ps aux | grep network-manager... is it somehow bundled within /etc/init.d/networking?
[01:30] <veryhappy> andrew: networking exists alone from network-manager...
[01:30] <daftykins> thatguy: can you stop the renames? :P
[01:30] <ernestwsnook> sorry... friends computer.
[01:30] <veryhappy> ax562: so you good sda5 ubuntu partition... you installed grub into the mbr?
[01:31] <Wug> TJ-: looks to be 304
[01:31] <bornagain> I deleted windows from the terminal using os uninstaller. Now it says no bootable devices
[01:31] <Wug> which seems like an old one iirc
[01:31] <TJ-> Wug: The good news is both devices are have their IOMEM correctly mapped... the issue is that the nvidia driver isn't managing the "GTX 750 Ti" for which you need at least nvidia version 334.21
[01:31] <ernestwsnook> i don't see network-manager in /etc/init.d, but it is running.
[01:31] <Bashing-om> ax562: veryhappy :; Win8=UEFI=GPT partitioning, and unless the hard disk has been repartitoned to "legacy" there should be no 'extended' partition.( and I am not even sure that Win 8 will boot non-UEFI ).
[01:32] <ernestwsnook> i need to stop it so i manually set the ip of the nic to do something with a router..
[01:32] <Wug> it's weird that it works if I remove the other card.
[01:32] <TJ-> Wug: I have 337 here, from the Ubuntu Xorg Edger's PPA
[01:32] <TJ-> Wug: Probably because it is the primary device, the VESA driver handles it
[01:32] <daftykins> ernestwsnook: init scripts are old school, use the service x stop method
[01:33] <ax562> veryhappy: I believe so.  Originally I just shrank my windows partition and installed ubuntu on the ext4 partition.  Ubuntu automatically setup grub.
[01:33] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: might be, but he just wants to resize his ubuntu partition as far as i understood.
[01:33] <Wug> eew init scripts
[01:33] <Wug> bleck the repos only go up to  331
[01:33] <TJ-> Wug: see https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty
[01:34] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: ax562 :: Might suggest a close look at the partitoning .. GPT partitioning does not support or need a 'extended' partition.
[01:34] <TJ-> Wug: After adding that PPA and doing "sudo apt-get update" you can install the 340 driver with "sudo apt-get install nvidia-340"
[01:34] <ax562> Bashing-om: you are starting to worry me :/
[01:35] <Bashing-om> ax562: Yeah .. need to get this right.
[01:36] <ax562> Bashing-om: I know.  I'm worried that I might have messed up my windows partition.
[01:36] <ax562> I hope not though and don't think so. hope so.
[01:37]  * Wug pushes the "give it a whirl" button
[01:37] <Bashing-om> ax562: That is a possibility ( Windows tools for Windows partitions !) .. at this time I do suggest ya boot Windows and run 'ckkdsk' and couple of times and make sure Windows is still in a happy state.
[01:38] <ax562> ok.  I'll be back.hopefully
[01:38] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: you seem to know more about that....
[01:38] <veryhappy> ax562: hope i could help
[01:39] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: Well, I been around a while, seen a lot of problems, and have paid some atttention to what UEFI is growing into .
[01:41] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: i just didn't want to offend you because you know more about that... i might know more about other topics, right? there's no need to be offending...
[01:41] <veryhappy> :D
[01:42] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: Oh me .. The last thing I would ever want is to offend .. Not at all my desire. We are working a problem is all .. and I offer my advise too.
[01:42] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: of course we do...
[01:42] <veryhappy> ;)
[01:43] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: and as long everybody is fair and let someone else also write what he knows everything stays fair play :)
[01:43] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: probably you also can tell me why my netbook pastes randomly text with my space key since i use kde? didn't happen before with gnome...
[01:44] <Wug> TJ-: a little finagling after installing the updated driver made it work
[01:44] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: Right on ! .. believe me I KNOW there is more I do not know than what I do know .. I am always in the process of learnong.
[01:44] <Wug> I love when its something simple
[01:44] <TJ-> Wug :)
[01:44] <TJ-> Wug: I have 3 GPUs and 6 monitors here; I'm used to that stuff :)
[01:45] <samthewildone> TJ-, what kinda of work you do ?
[01:45] <samthewildone> I suppose 3D animation / design
[01:45] <TJ-> samfty: hack software
[01:45] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: I have not touched the wonderful KDE since 9.04 release // but I would look into how KDE maps the keys.
[01:45] <TJ-> opos, samthewildone: hack software
[01:45] <Wug> well I say "work"
[01:46] <Wug> but it doesn't seem to actually make it to a desktop env when I login
[01:46] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: well it randomly happens... that should only paste content when i hit ctrl-v and not randomly with my space key, right?
[01:46] <TJ-> Wug: check "/var/log/Xorg.o.log" for any X server problems
[01:46] <TJ-> Wug: check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for any X server problems
[01:47] <Wug> no errors...
[01:47] <TJ-> Wug: try logging in as Guest
[01:49] <Wug> no dice
[01:50] <Wug> can't even get a terminal open with ctrl+alt+t like I usually can when the window manager is being retarded
[01:50] <TJ-> Wug: check "$HOME/.xsession-errors"
[01:50] <veryhappy> Wug: that don't work in kde
[01:50] <veryhappy> Wug: unfortunately
[01:51] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: That is a fact on no randomness, I would be looking in the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log ( as the keyboard runs under xorg) and see what it might have to relate.
[01:53] <ax562> ok.  I'm in windoze
[01:54] <ax562> Bashing-om: verryhappy: I'm still alive in windoze
[01:54] <Bashing-om> ax562: Excellent news ! ..back to your regularly skeduled helper, and I go back to lurking.
[01:57] <ax562> Bashing-om: verryhappy: so what are my options if any?  I already resized window 8.1 partition now I have empty hd space that I want to add to my linux partition.
[01:57] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: what should that help with Xorg? it happens randomly.
[01:58] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: Well .. you are looking for an aberation in the log file when the copy/paste misfunctions ..
[01:59] <veryhappy> oh ok, got it
[01:59] <veryhappy> where does Xorg have its log file?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> ax562: veryhappy // At this point I want to see what the current partitoning is like. ax562, does the parted disk have a terminal interface cabability, can it access the ubuntu repository  ?
[02:02] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: my current partitioning scheme?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: That file is located at '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' // Does KDE have a 'log file viewer"? - makes life easier .
[02:03] <veryhappy> ok... i'll figure it out if it has..
[02:03] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: No on your partitioning .. I was redirecting us back to ax562 on that one .
[02:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Hello, today i started skype up tried to login and it gave me an error saying "Skype can't connect" so i thought it was my account was banned but couldnt login to my other did some research and found this post (http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&p=900548) telling me to install the debian package and when i tried to install the deb package though software-center i got an error "Conflicts with the installed package 'skype-bin:i386'"
[02:04] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: ok, was just wondering ... ok kde has a log viewer
[02:05] <Bashing-om> ax562: I am being dense here .. as you are installing ubuntu, you have a liveDVD(USB) ! .. all we need at this time to look at things directly so we know.
[02:05] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yeah, we cannot condone that action. installing debian packages is unsupported, pretty sure Skype is unsupported directly too
[02:05] <Beldar> GuyThatNeedsHelp, why would you use the mint forums for ubuntu issues?
[02:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Beldar: It was the only thing i found and since they say mint is based off of ubuntu i thought it would work
[02:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> So no more skype for ubuntu?
[02:07] <Beldar> works fine here
[02:07] <Beldar> seems to be some issues today you're not the first here
[02:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I tried sudo apt-get remove skype and uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it didnt work
[02:08] <veryhappy> GuyThatNeedsHelp: maybe that works for you, i'm not pretending it does: http://www.enqlu.com/2013/07/how-to-install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-13-04-or-linux-mint-15.html
[02:08] <ragesith> hello there, i have a question about modules - ive installed i8k and after install it works right out of the box but every reboot the module is not loaded automaticly! everytime i have to modprob i8k and then it works. How do i lod the module on start?
[02:08] <veryhappy> ragesith: nano or vi /etc/modules, there you go.
[02:08] <veryhappy> ragesith: of course to modify as root
[02:09] <ragesith> veryhappy, the problem is its in there
[02:09] <veryhappy> ragesith: then i don't know either, sorry
[02:09] <Bashing-om> ax562: Let's look. Boot up the liveDVD ( the install medium for ubuntu) -> try ubuntu -> terminal .. commands -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , udo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- pass the URL bak here to us, Do not be surprised if 'fdisk' screams and hollers, will not read a GPT disk, we will then install another tool to look.
[02:10] <Beldar> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Apps in general have configs, purge rather than remove is what is used here in this instance, the skype release may not get support here is all.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> udo/sudo * !
[02:10] <veryhappy> ax562: "udo" is a typo and means of course "sudo"
[02:10] <ragesith> haha got it veryhappy youre the man :)
[02:10] <veryhappy> :D
[02:10] <ax562> Bashing-om: sorry, had to drop off the kids.
[02:10] <veryhappy> ragesith: what was the problem
[02:10] <ragesith> without you i wouldnt have seen my typo
[02:11] <ragesith> ik8 instead of i8k :)
[02:11] <veryhappy> ha
[02:11] <veryhappy> there you go
[02:11] <veryhappy> glad i could help
[02:11] <ragesith> im gonna repport to check now - thanks
[02:12] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: the gparted disk does have terminal but I'm not sure if i can access any repo (not sure if i have internet capabilities).
[02:12] <bornagain> Can someone please help me. I deleted windows and now when i start the computer it says no bootable device
[02:12] <mtsnacks> Don't mind me, I'm just lurking.
[02:13] <Beldar> bornagain, You have ubuntu installed?
[02:13] <bornagain> Yes
[02:13] <Bashing-om> ax562: One way to find out -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .. see what happens.
[02:14] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: should I use gparted live disk or ubuntu?
[02:14] <veryhappy> bornagain: you need rescue tools for your ubuntu i guess...
[02:14] <Beldar> bornagain, Note we use nicks to address each other. Was this a wubi install?
[02:14] <veryhappy> gparted live disk
[02:14] <zacwalls> how do i access administrator on a user through terminal i need updates
[02:14] <zacwalls> i still boot 13.04
[02:14] <veryhappy> gksu/gksudo command
[02:14] <bornagain> Beldar i just downloaded it and installed from pc
[02:14] <daftykins> zacwalls: it'd be quicker for you to backup and clean install
[02:14] <zacwalls> okay
[02:15] <Beldar> zacwalls, 13.04 is end of life
[02:15] <veryhappy> zacwalls: gksu/gksudo command
[02:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know what the applications name is for software & updates? i cant search for it since im not on unity
[02:15] <zacwalls> i cant update
[02:15] <daftykins> veryhappy: what you are saying is wrong
[02:15] <Beldar> bornagain, Installed from windows?
[02:15] <ax562> veryhappy: Bashing-om: I think Bashing-om wanted to use ubuntu live?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> ax562: As we have the liveDVD of ubuntu .. and that is the tool that I am familiar with .. let's go with booting up ubuntu .
[02:15] <veryhappy> daftykins: hey hey daftykins, what's wrong?
[02:15] <bornagain> Beldar yes installed from windows
[02:15] <veryhappy> ax562: live means a boot disk
[02:15] <daftykins> veryhappy: you don't run a terminal program as root
[02:16] <Beldar> bornagain, When you wiped windows you wiped ubuntu it was inside it.
[02:16] <veryhappy> daftykins: sorry my fault...
[02:16] <bornagain> O no
[02:16] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I will reboot using ubuntu live.  I will switch to phone interface. brb.
[02:16] <bornagain> Beldar what can i do?
[02:16] <veryhappy> daftykins: am i accused using root now on a terminal :D
[02:17] <Beldar> bornagain, Install ubuntu on the HD, a recovery is pretty tedious and who knows what you would get.
[02:18] <Beldar> bornagain, NO backups?
[02:19] <daftykins> veryhappy: gksu/gksudo is used to run a graphical program as root... so if you ran gnome-terminal or something with that, you'd not end up with what the user wanted :) That's all
[02:20] <daftykins> bornagain: just to confirm, if Beldar doesn't mind my interjection... you installed ubuntu using WUBI from inside Windows?
[02:20] <veryhappy> daftykins: ok...
[02:22] <Beldar> bornagain, Easiest way to confirm all this is to get a live ubuntu download to run a few commands.
[02:23] <bornagain> Dhow?
[02:23] <sydney> Ok,i installed lxde in ubuntu 14.04,and now i have no clue how t change the volume settings :-/
[02:23] <bornagain> Beldar how?
[02:24] <Beldar> bornagain, Download ubuntu fro it's website, burn the iso to dvd or usb and boot to the live desktop.
[02:24] <Beldar> from*
[02:24] <ax562> ok Im back
[02:24] <sydney> Does anyone have any advice?
[02:24] <bornagain> Beldar thank you
[02:25] <joseluis64> veryhappy if you're there I have now 180.2 MB of ram used by Xorg
[02:25] <Beldar> sydney, Yeah have some patience. ;)
[02:25] <ax562> back
[02:25] <sydney> Beldar:  :P
[02:25] <veryhappy> joseluis64: i'm here.
[02:25] <ax562> what should I do once I boot into ubuntu?
[02:25] <sydney> I can change the output volume easily,but i cannot get my mic to work :-/
[02:25] <joseluis64> veryhappy thank you
[02:26] <veryhappy> joseluis64: i just still haven't figured out how i can check the ram size of my nvidia driver
[02:26] <Beldar> ax562, What is the end goal?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> ax562: do: -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- and if result is positive, post back the resulting URL .
[02:26] <zacwalls> how do i do a clean install of 14,04?
[02:26] <ax562> Bashing-om: verryhappy: what should I boot into?
[02:27] <sydney> zacwalls: boot to a live cd,and do a fresh install
[02:27] <sydney> zacwalls: or a flash drive
[02:27] <veryhappy> ax562: what have you done now?
[02:27] <Beldar> zacwalls, Boot a live iso burned to a dvd or usb and install
[02:27] <ax562> I'm assuming there should be a terminal option once I boot up right?
[02:27] <Bashing-om> ax562: ubuntu live ( installer ) -> try ubuntu .
[02:28] <ax562> ok got it.  I know the option.
[02:28] <veryhappy> ok
[02:28] <veryhappy> joseluis64: i want to help you if you can tell me a way how to find a possibility
[02:28] <veryhappy> joseluis64: you have krunner?
[02:29] <zacwalls> i know have a live disk but i do have a usb
[02:29] <zacwalls> maby
[02:29] <TJ-> veryhappy: "awk '/^nvidia/{print $1, "using", $2, "bytes"}' /proc/modules "
[02:29] <Beldar> zacwalls, disc or usb woeks
[02:29] <Beldar> works*
[02:29] <veryhappy> joseluis64: isn't that just the panel that lets you search applications
[02:31] <zacwalls> can i use a cd-r?
[02:32] <Beldar> zacwalls, Ubuntu needs a dvd it's to big for a cdd
[02:32] <Beldar> cd*
[02:32] <zacwalls> okay
[02:33] <zacwalls> should i use 32 or 64 bit
[02:33] <Beldar> zacwalls, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <veryhappy> joseluis64: found it: Total Memory: 1024 MB, Total Dedicated Memory: 1024 MB, Used Dedicated Memory: 31 MB (3%)
[02:35] <veryhappy> thanks TJ
[02:36] <ax562> Bashing-om: verryhappy:I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" but I got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit
[02:36] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy:I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" but I got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit
[02:37] <veryhappy> ax562: already tried sudo apt-get update -y?
[02:37] <veryhappy> ax562: do you have network?
[02:37] <ax562> yes
[02:38] <ax562> that is working
[02:38] <veryhappy> good ;)
[02:38] <veryhappy> then do apt-get update -y
[02:38] <Bashing-om> ax562: Humm .. "Filename: pool/main/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_1.4-3_all.deb" it is there in the 'main' repository .. check your spelling ( copy and paste ).
[02:39] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: sudo apt-get update -y is working.  pastebinit didn't work originally
[02:40] <Bashing-om> ax562: ok, As I live and learn !
[02:40] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm on two different machinces
[02:40] <ax562> pastebinit still not working :?
[02:40] <veryhappy> ax562: does the computer we work on also have network?
[02:40] <veryhappy> ax562: pastebinit just works with a piped command
[02:40] <veryhappy> i.e. command | pastebinit
[02:41] <ax562> both have network
[02:41] <veryhappy> i just don't know what Bashing-om wants you to send for data
[02:41] <joseluis64> veryhappy i'm here, how did you found that information?
[02:41] <Beldar> ax562, This an install or the live?
[02:41] <ax562> hold on let me try installing irssi
[02:42] <veryhappy> i looked into  nvidia-settings
[02:42] <ax562> that works
[02:42] <veryhappy> ax562: what do you want to use irssi for?
[02:42] <veryhappy> ok...
[02:42] <ax562> just to check and maybe just to be on one machine
[02:42] <veryhappy> okk
[02:42] <ax562> brb
[02:43] <veryhappy> ok
[02:43] <Beldar> Bashing-om, You like a good torture. ;)
[02:43] <Bashing-om> Beldar: I take beatings well, do I not ?
[02:43] <joseluis64> veryhappy: I have Total Memory: 512 MB Total Dedicated Memory: 256 MB Used Dedicated Memory: 115 MB (45%)
[02:43] <Beldar> or have the patience for anyway
[02:44] <Beldar> yes
[02:44] <ax562> back
[02:44] <veryhappy> joseluis64: well then your system uses much dedicated memory and you're nearly at the limit...
[02:44] <ax562> yeah I'm on irssi with out a hitch but pastebinit didn't work :/
[02:45] <veryhappy> ax562: as i wrote you before pastebinit alone doesn't work
[02:45] <ax562> oh ok.
[02:45] <veryhappy> ax562: you need to pipe a command to it
[02:45] <ax562> how can I do that?
[02:45] <Bashing-om> Beldar: The sad part is I am going to see what the partitioning is like for ax5 - scream and holler why he did not trust ubiguity to do the easy install of ubuntu .. then I am going to holler for help to install ubuntu manually !
[02:45] <veryhappy> i.e. dmesg | pastebinit
[02:46] <joseluis64> so, where is the problem, the driver? xorg? kde?
[02:46] <joseluis64> both?
[02:46] <Beldar> Bashing-om, I wont touch that uefi stuff, basically I do what I know, which is well....limited.
[02:46] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: so what is the next step?
[02:46] <joseluis64> plasma-desktop even uses a lot 137.1 Mb of RAM
[02:46] <veryhappy> joseluis64: the first message you wrote to me was just that you wanted to know how much memory i have, what do you want to do now
[02:47] <veryhappy> joseluis64: yea plasma uses much memory
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ax562: Now in terminal -> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit < - .. it will return a URL like so " http://paste.ubuntu.com/7929533/" .. post your URL back here so we can see what that command's output is.
[02:47] <joseluis64> veryhappy If it is normal tha xogr uses hundreds MB of RAM
[02:47] <joseluis64> *that xorg
[02:48] <veryhappy> joseluis64: you can tweak it not to use much ram if you avoid special 3d effects
[02:48] <ax562> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:48] <ax562> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:48] <ax562> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:48] <ax562> You will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[02:48] <joseluis64> I have nothing open, just the desktop, and I have like 900 MB of RAM
[02:48] <veryhappy> ax562: !pastebin
[02:48] <veryhappy> !pastebin ax562
[02:48] <ax562> it didn't work
[02:49] <ax562> I have to enable universe
[02:49] <joseluis64> of course after I close eveyrthing
[02:49] <veryhappy> ax562: please paste your output next time in pastebin.org otherwise you'll be kicked automatically after 3 lines posted.
[02:50] <joseluis64> veryhappy: memory of Xorg is not freed when I close all windows
[02:50] <veryhappy> joseluis64: go into systemsettings and see if you switch off fade effects, slide effect and so on...
[02:52] <joseluis64> veryhappy no change
[02:52] <ax562> sorry
[02:55] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: http://pastebin.com/Q2Nyzasp
[02:56] <Bashing-om> ax562: Outstanding ! I be look'n at your /Q2Nyzasp .
[02:56] <ax562> I couldn't get pastebinit to work though so I just used firefox
[02:56] <ax562> Not sure what universe is
[02:57] <veryhappy> ax562: universe is a repository
[02:57] <tkhan1> quit
[02:57] <ax562> ah, well I believe I do not have that setup
[02:59] <sneakertack> i'm considering upgrading 12.04 to 14.04. if we assume a clean install, what are some lazy / easy ways to backup my data / current state?
[03:00] <sneakertack> i.e. if the install goes wrong how can i revert back to the pre-upgrade state easily?
[03:00] <ax562> kind of funny and weird that this ubuntu live cd runs faster and smoother on my system.lol
[03:00] <Bashing-om> ax562: veryhappy // Well, well, We have a MBR partitioning , and Winsows boots on it ! WOW ! .. ok, ax562 now what have we got ? .. do: sudo mkdir /mnt/work , sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/work , ls -la /mnt/work/ <- . do you see a file system ?
[03:00] <svetlana> !backup | This has some options to back up useful data :
[03:00] <veryhappy> sneakertack: clonezilla
[03:00] <svetlana> and no you can't downgrade easily, only by hand
[03:00] <sneakertack> ok thanks, i will check those out
[03:03] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: yes! http://pastebin.com/XdusiFc5
[03:03] <writing_novel> Hey Hey! Fellow Ubu users!
[03:04]  * writing_novel says: It is one thing when a government allows for the private execution of binaries, but it is quite another when that same government is also fine with the public hanging of servers! We must rebel, this cannot be tollerated!?!!!
[03:05] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: why does he have an android folder in there?
[03:05] <Bashing-om> ax562: veryhappy :: We do, we do have a file system ! .. ok, now ax562 ,,, what is the specific problem you are experiencing ? .. so far all looks good ! .
[03:05] <veryhappy> writing_novel: ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <writing_novel> actually I am trying to get information on building Hercules-390 version 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.x
[03:06] <writing_novel> Ubuntu seems to break it
[03:06] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I've been compiling cyanogenmod from source.  but been running into hurddles.
[03:06] <veryhappy> writing_novel: was just wondering about the phrase
[03:06] <CyanBlob> Hey guys, can anyone help me get a working sources.list file for Ubuntu 14.04 ARM? After I did an in-place update a while back, the sources.list seems to have not been updated
[03:06] <veryhappy> ax562: ok
[03:06] <CyanBlob> I'm just looking for a basic sources.list
[03:06] <writing_novel> Oh, I do not believe in the public hanging of servers....it is far to barbaric
[03:07] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm trying to resize my linux partition (make bigger).
[03:07] <jethisoon> in windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.
[03:08] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I tried using gparted but it wouldn't work.  It also said it would probably mess up my grub.
[03:08] <veryhappy> ax562: Bashing-om with a live system you could resize your linux partition...
[03:08] <Bashing-om> veryhappy: IRT ax562 // android directory ,I do not have a clue ??? I am open to be taught !
[03:08] <veryhappy> ax562: Bashing-om but as you mentioned just before it could mess up your system...
[03:09] <writing_novel> and with a dead system you could overwrite your Windows partition with Linux.
[03:09] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: cyanogenmod source compiling ;)
[03:10] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: my goal is to resize without messing anything up.
[03:10] <veryhappy> ax562: Bashing-om he tries source compiling but have no clue of resizing his system :D
[03:11] <Bashing-om> ax562: OK, I am getting in step here now .. what you have is a good install( we are not installing anew !) .. want to shrink windows to enlarge ubuntu ...!! gotcha !
[03:11] <veryhappy> ax562: we have to find out how much space windows uses and how much we can shrink it...
[03:12] <veryhappy> ax562: then everything should be fine and you won't mess your system up if you a) don't cancel the process once it runs, and b) don't have a powerloss
[03:12] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I already shrank windows.  I have 15,000 MB un-allocated for linux
[03:12] <writing_novel> you can always shrink windows down to a zero byte sized partition you know.
[03:12] <ax562> lol
[03:13] <writing_novel> I like to take the same outlook my maid does...I avoid doing Windows at all costs!?!
[03:13] <Bashing-om> ax562: ^^ , yeah .. and once Windows is shrubk ( using Windows tools ) then enlarge the extended partition (sda3) as that is the container that holds the logical partitions (sda4 and sda 5) .. then you may extend sda4 .
[03:14] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I already tried that.  It did not work
[03:14] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: It would not resize sda3.
[03:14] <jethisoon> in windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.
[03:14] <writing_novel> that is because with Window's 'auto-bloat-ware' option, you can never really shrink it.
[03:14] <ax562> It said error.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> ax562: humm .. you are saying you tried to extend partition sda 3 ... I do mean sda3 ! .
[03:15] <nytek> Hey. Could someone help me without having me reinstall my OS? I installed the newest VMware Player in Ubuntu 14 trusty, and successfully had a distro iso I was sampling up and running as a VM. I just X'd out of it, and then I went back to using chrome for a bit. My computer froze at some point, and now it boots up to the login screen. When PW is entered successfully, it flashes to a black screen with a message and back to login.
[03:15] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I tried.  It would not resize sda3.
[03:16] <nytek> I could read: "Starting VMware AMQP Service:failed", and "saned disabled; edit /etd/default/saned", and "*restoring resolver state"
[03:16] <nytek> before it went back to the ubuntu login screen for trusty
[03:16] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: /dev/sda3 would not resize. :(
[03:16] <writing_novel> sanity disabled? That message is a Windows message!
[03:17] <daftykins> writing_novel: can you please stop talking rubbish in here, thanks
[03:17] <Bashing-om> !pastebinit
[03:17] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: I'm not sure if it was an issue because of breaking my sytem or gparted just didn't like it.
[03:17] <veryhappy> ax562: did it give you a specific error message?
[03:18] <Geo> Hello, I'm writing an init.d service, and working off of the skeleton example. With the command, "[ -r /etc/default/$name ] && . /etc/default/$name", what format does that config file need to be in? Is it just FOO="bar", etc?
[03:19] <Bashing-om> ax562: The next thing then is to show us what GParted see the hard disk as .. how to output the image I can not advise. Help !
[03:19] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: Not too specifc.  1 sentence.  I can't remember specific.  I tried to save but it wouldn't.
[03:20] <daftykins> Bashing-om: image output? how do you mean?
[03:20] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: we need an image hoster
[03:20] <ax562> daftykins: I'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition.  gparted wouldn't do it.
[03:20] <writing_novel> daftykins: you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!
[03:21] <Bashing-om> ax562: There is a way to get a screen shot of GParted to pastenin.img (??) .. I have not done it, so do not know how .
[03:21] <Beldar> live gparted can reach the web by browser
[03:22] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: first of all Bashing-om what do you mean with a picture of how gparted sees the harddisks?
[03:22] <Beldar> err a gparted boot
[03:23] <Beldar> ax562, Boot the live ubuntu you installed with and use it's gparted.
[03:24] <Beldar> take a screenshot there
[03:24] <Beldar> I suspect you have out of order partitions
[03:24] <veryhappy> Beldar: and where shall he upload it?
[03:24] <ax562> I have to unmount filesytem now though.
[03:25] <Beldar> any resize should be unmounted
[03:25] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: How can I unmount?
[03:25] <ax562> I mounted sda5 to /mnt/work I believe
[03:25] <veryhappy> ax562: unmount /mnt/work
[03:27] <Bashing-om> ax562: Than you ! Would have slipped my mind -> sido umount /mnt/work <- .
[03:27] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: umount not unmount
[03:27] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: yes.  thank you.
[03:27] <veryhappy> sorry
[03:27] <jethisoon> in windows we have clickey, why cant we hav e something like that in linux?? if a distro has something like clickey built in , we would switch over to them right away.
[03:27] <ax562> no worries I appreciate all thelp
[03:28] <veryhappy> Bashing-om: it's 5::27 AM here and i might be already a little bit distracted...
[03:28] <ninjaaron> I started upgrading my home file server from 12.04 to 14.04 over ssh on my phone in a tmux session. At some point, I had to look at some config files to decide what to do. I couldn't see the whole dialog because of the size of the term in on my phone. I detached from on my phone so I could open it on my computer. Now, I can't get into my tmux session because my client is version 7 and my server is version 8,
[03:28] <ninjaaron> so it's sitting there in the middle of a dialog for updating my nfs config, but I can't get back to it. Looks bad. Any way I can get back to the update or somehow rescue this system? My data is all saved, but I'd have to set up the server again. Wouldn't be horrible, but I'd prefer to avoid it.
[03:28] <veryhappy> jethisoon: in kde and gnome you can simply click to unmount but we are working at text level mode...
[03:28] <ax562> how can I take a screen shot and pastebin?
[03:29] <veryhappy> ax562: pastebin is for text hosting only...
[03:29] <veryhappy> ax562: we have to find you an image hoster...
[03:30] <ax562> Moving a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot.
[03:30] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: Moving a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot.
[03:30] <ax562> that is the first error
[03:31] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: you have selected to move start sector of sda3 failure to boot most likely will occur.
[03:31] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: pretty much sums it up
[03:32] <ninjaaron> ax562: nothing a grub-install + update-grub couldn't fix.
[03:33] <Beldar> ninjaaron, You seemed to have made a mistake not just using your computer, I doubt you will get that fixed from here in less time than a re-setup if at all.
[03:33] <ninjaaron> Beldar: yeah. Kind of my instinct about it as well. I've created a tmux time paradox.
[03:34] <ninjaaron> I'm so used to administering the machine from my phone that I don't even think about accessing it any other way.
[03:34] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: Sorry guys.  I've been stalling on my family for about a half hour here.  I have to go to the grocerry store.  I will be back and hopefully someone could help.  Thanks to everyone that has helped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:35] <veryhappy> np
[03:35] <jethisoon> in windows we have clickey, why dont we have something like that in linux??
[03:35] <ninjaaron> Beldar: I guess I'll just have to go get the drives and hook them up to my laptop for now so I can still watch "The Big Bang Theory." Boo hoo.
[03:35] <veryhappy> jethisoon: if you don't read what we write you then you have nothing left here.
[03:36] <Beldar> jethisoon, Not really a ubuntu support issue.
[03:36] <ninjaaron> No mediatomb streaming for me.
[03:36] <Beldar> I use windows and don't even have the inkling to look up what clicky is jethisoon
[03:37] <jethisoon> Beldar so where do i ask these kind of questions?
[03:38] <Beldar> jethisoon, Who makes it?
[03:38] <Beldar> and what is it?
[03:40] <veryhappy> ok, guys, i'll be going
[03:40] <veryhappy> see you around
[03:40] <veryhappy> take care :)
[03:40] <jethisoon> clickey is a small application that makes clicking sounds whenever we press keys on the keyboard. its by grc.com
[03:41] <Beldar> jethisoon, I would ask them, it's 3rd party no OS channels would have support most likely.
[03:42] <Adzz> Hi, I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 14.04 installation running XBMC, randomly it will just shutdown for no reason. can anyone give me a hand?
[03:42] <ninjaaron> Interesting. I did a hard reboot, and it has successfully booted, ssh, nfs, and UPnP appear to be working. probably just need to do some major package cleanup with apt. Crazy.
[03:43] <jethisoon> beldar who shall i ask??
[03:44] <Beldar> jethisoon, No idea supposedly there is a possible sound app in ubuntu, but see no working example, so I can't really help.
[03:45] <ninjaaron> Beldar: No effing way. I run `sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a` and it picks up exactly where it left off. Must be pure luck (or more likely good engineering).
[03:45] <Beldar> ninjaaron, cool
[03:46] <sadistic1heart> HELLO ALL
[03:49] <jethisoon> beldar do you suppose if we write the distro makers they can help?
[03:50] <OERIAS> jethisoon, Migrate to ----------------------------------------> Debian
[03:50] <Beldar> jethisoon, Honestly your the one who cares, I'm indifferent, it's your show. ;)
[03:50] <Adzz> Does anyone know how I can diagnose as to why my desktop is shutting down randomly?
[03:51] <jethisoon> OERIAS why do they have clicking key sounds ?
[03:52] <Beldar> jethisoon, THis person is a troll ignore
[03:53] <jethisoon> BELDAR HAHA. TYVM.
[03:54] <Beldar> and a very bad one at that
[03:54] <daftykins> it's quite sad that there are losers with nothing better to do than hamper us who help for free
[03:55] <Geo> [ -r /etc/efflux/$NAME.conf ] && . /etc/default/$NAME.conf
[03:55] <BiZoNiX> cd wadie
[03:55] <BiZoNiX> cdls
[03:55] <br_oken> I have an issue in Ubuntu 12.04 : often when I click on a Samba share bookmark, it doesn't work and says "invalid argument" but when I click again right away, it works
[03:55] <Geo> that should load the contents of $NAME.conf into vars, right?
[03:55] <Geo> BLA="moo"  in the .conf file can be referenced as $BLA in the new script?
[03:56] <ninjaaron> Well, thanks for being my sholder to cry on, Beldar. Looks like I'm off and running again. apt and dpkg are just way too awesome to be stopped!
[03:56] <Beldar> no help here but it's working
[03:59] <Adzz> Does anyone know how I can diagnose as to why my desktop is shutting down randomly?
[03:59] <OERIAS> Beldar you're the troll because you can't think independently
[03:59] <rww> OERIAS: That's enough. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please limit your messages here so that they are appropriate.
[03:59] <rww> !guidelines
[03:59] <rww> read ^
[04:00] <OERIAS> rww, I can read in more languages than you ever will
[04:00] <rww> OERIAS: I don't care. Stick to support discussion in here.
[04:00] <OERIAS> Alrighty
[04:01] <br_oken> Adzz: maybe it is overheating or there is something in your power settings
[04:01] <Ben64> Adzz: check various logs in /var/log
[04:01] <Beldar> OERIAS, Hmm, my jazz playing and degree in ethnic studies, and grad work would show otherwise.
[04:02] <Adzz> br_oken: I just checked with lmsensors and its reporting back 51c, also I live in a cold place atm so it can't be getting to hot...
[04:02] <OERIAS> Alright Beldar, stick support, this is a support channel.
[04:02] <Adzz> Ben64: I've check /var/log/syslog and there's not specific at the points when it shutsdown
[04:02] <Beldar> thats what I do
[04:02] <OERIAS> *stick to support.
[04:02] <Ben64> Adzz: the temperature reported is not really reliable though
[04:02] <TJ-> Adzz: does it suddenly lose power, or do a controlled shutdown the same as when you shutdown yourself?
[04:03] <Ben64> Adzz: and theres other logs besides syslog
[04:03] <Adzz> Ben64: It's only just started happening after I reinstalled lubuntu 14.04
[04:03] <Adzz> TJ-: The last time it happened (when i actually was using it when it happened), it ran through the actual shutdown procedure as in the ubuntu outro shutdown whatever-you-wanna-call-it was running but then froze
[04:04] <Adzz> Ben64: Which log would you recommend me to look into
[04:04] <Ben64> Adzz: is it a laptop
[04:04] <Adzz> Ben64: Nope, desktop
[04:04] <TJ-> Adzz: OK, that suggests some kind of control event/signal that caused it, rather than, say, the PSU fluctuating, or the CPU/GPU simply freezing due to overheating
[04:05] <Adzz> TJ-: Yes, that's what I think also, I just can't find out what...
[04:05] <TJ-> Adzz: initiating a shutdown should be logged to "/var/log/auth.log", or "/var/log/syslog"
[04:05] <Adzz> TJ-: I'll go check it now
[04:06] <TJ-> Adzz: Is it on a network with other people that might want to, for fun day, send a remote shutdown command to aggravate you?
[04:08] <Adzz> TJ-: I don't think so but i just found something disturbing in my auth.log
[04:08] <Adzz> TJ-: My pc seems to be under a brute force
[04:09] <Adzz> TJ-: through SSH, loads of "POSSIBLE BREAK IN ATTEMPT"
[04:09] <hawk_pro> servhelp
[04:09] <Adzz> TJ-: With usernames i don't have (seems like a bruteforce), but im behind my router which doesnt route port 22 to my router, how is this possible?
[04:09] <TJ-> Adzz: Where from? Is the PC directly connected to the Internet without a firewall or NAT-ing router in-between?
[04:09] <Adzz> TJ-: All over the place, and its behind a router
[04:10] <roboter> hail! hail!
[04:10] <TJ-> Adzz: Looks like your router has been compromised from outside, and someone has set-up port-forwarding then
[04:10] <ninjaaron> exit
[04:10] <ninjaaron> shell commands totally don't work on IRC.
[04:11] <TJ-> Adzz: check the router configuration, maybe reboot it see if the compromise continues (that'll tell you if the router has saved the problem rule(s) )
[04:15] <roboter> in ubuntu 14.04 is not working MS Office 2000. It sucks!:(
[04:19] <roboter> ubuntu 14.04 is fCukin bullshit
[04:20] <OerHeks> roboter, yes, it is not working.
[04:20] <OERIAS> roboter, you are stating the truth!
[04:21] <roboter> great shit:)
[04:21]  * rww sighs
[04:21] <rww> roboter: are you running Office in WINE or something?
[04:22] <fnstick> I have a computer that, for reasons I would not like to elaborate on, I cannot upgrade. It is version ubuntu 11.04 and I need to be able to install software from the repositories. Am I able to add the ubuntu 14.04 repositories or would that be an issue?
[04:22] <rww> fnstick: it would be an issue
[04:23] <fnstick> rww: Then can I upgrade ubuntu by adding the repositories?
[04:23] <OerHeks> !eolupdate
[04:23] <roboter> rww: yup
[04:23] <rww> !eolupgrades
[04:23] <Ben64> fnstick: you just said you cannot upgrade?
[04:23] <rww> fnstick: see ^ for the location of the 11.04 repositories these days, and upgrade info
[04:23] <fnstick> Ben64: It is a remote host that I have no physical access to, cannot virtually mount anything outside of the OS
[04:24] <fnstick> rww: thanks
[04:24] <SirLagz> I have a laptop that doesn't resolve addresses, however when I run a `nslookup www.google.com 192.168.2.1` it will resolve the address fine
[04:25] <SirLagz> routes are all there
[04:25] <Ben64> SirLagz: sounds like you're just missing a dns server
[04:26] <SirLagz> Ben64: I would think so...but using Network Manager, it shows on there
[04:26] <SirLagz> "Primary DNS: 192.168.2.1"
[04:26] <SirLagz> so where else would I be missing it from ?
[04:26] <Ben64> what is in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:26] <SirLagz> Ben64: it has 192.168.2.1 in there too
[04:27] <SirLagz> Ben64: though I just added it in when I found i was empty
[04:27] <Ben64> SirLagz: you just added it now?
[04:27] <SirLagz> Ben64: a little while ago now
[04:28] <SirLagz> Ben64: it was blank before...except for the "generated by NetworkManager" line
[04:28] <Ben64> then things should work, probably
[04:28] <SirLagz> Ben64: nope, still can't ping via dns
[04:28] <the_coon> hi
[04:28] <SirLagz> Ben64: rather, still cant lookup things via dns
[04:29] <Ben64> SirLagz: what does it say for "Server" when you type "nslookup freenode.net"
[04:30] <SirLagz> Ben64: connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[04:30] <Ben64> very weird
[04:30] <SirLagz> Ben64: indeed.
[04:30] <xorox90> Is there a way to speed up mouse wheel?, I don't want to use imwheel since it block mouse forward, backward button, and Scroll wheel emulation seems not to work
[04:30] <Ben64> SirLagz: are you for sure using ubuntu
[04:30] <SirLagz> Ben64: running nslookup freenode.net 192.168.2.1 works perfectly fine though
[04:30] <SirLagz> Ben64: yes
[04:31] <Ben64> not mint, not elementary, not anything weird
[04:31] <SirLagz> Ben64: definitely (x)ubuntu
[04:31] <SirLagz> i may have installed xfce later over ubuntu...i don't remember on this laptop
[04:31] <SirLagz> wife's laptop so I don't use it much
[04:31] <Ben64> on a real computer? not a phone or a raspberry pi or... etc
[04:31] <SirLagz> Ben64: yes. Laptop.
[04:31] <indn1234> Yo guys, I wanna disable the ubuntu style scrolling on my lubuntu-desktop environment, and go back to old school scrolling side bars. Can I do that? How?
[04:32] <SirLagz> Ben64: it is a quantal laptop...but I would assume that dns should still work
[04:32] <Ben64> SirLagz: it should yeah, but you should upgrade that
[04:32] <SirLagz> Ben64: on my todo list. The newer versions don't have a working battery monitor for this laptop, and it's a rather important functionality
[04:33] <SirLagz> Ben64: this is my wife's laptop and she uses it off AC a lot
[04:33] <Ben64> 12.04 is older, yet supported :)
[04:33] <SirLagz> Ben64: is there a way to downgrade ?
[04:33] <Ben64> no, unfortunately
[04:33] <SirLagz> Ben64: then I'm stuck lol.
[04:36] <eeee> indn1234: you there?
[04:37] <happyfr0gg> I am back.  I need help in fixing my Ubuntu Precise system.
[04:38] <eeee> indn1234: type this in the terminal gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[04:38] <indn1234> Yo guys, I wanna disable the ubuntu style scrolling on my lubuntu-desktop environment, and go back to old school scrolling side bars. Can I do that? How?
[04:38] <eeee> indn1234: check above
[04:40] <eeee> indn1234: to revert to what it was type gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode overlay-auto
[04:40] <SirLagz> Ben64: is there a specific way to set DNS servers apart from via networkmanager and /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:40] <happyfr0gg> The files and dependencies I was missing from the HWE from Update Manager, I installed those and now Unity (my login screen) fails to display.  What gives?
[04:42] <Ben64> SirLagz:  /etc/network/interfaces but that probably would just end up sticking it into resolv.conf anyway
[04:43] <SirLagz> Ben64: I'm stumped. NetworkManager thinks the Primary DNS is what I set it to via the settings, but nslookup doesn't see it
[04:47] <happyfr0gg> I installed the wrong LTS Enablement Stacks for my Ubuntu 12.04.4 system. Ubuntu Unity now fails to display when booting up.  How do I fix this?
[04:48] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Reload the back up image you should have.
[04:49] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: boot into recovery mode and install the right stuff
[04:49] <ax562> back
[04:51] <ax562> Bashing-om: veryhappy: you guys still in here?
[04:56] <Matt___> Hi
[04:56] <Matt___> is anyone here?
[04:56] <Matt___> I've never used this before
[04:56] <Matt___> I really need help with an issue
[04:56] <Matt___> is anyone here?
[04:56] <daftykins> ask on one line.
[04:56] <Matt___> kk
[04:56] <ax562> what's going on?
[04:58] <Matt___> Every time I boot up, I get the error seen here : http://imgur.com/Tyd3BIQ .  However, when I force a poweroff and then reset, it loads into grub, and then allows me to select boot up options.  At this point, I select Ubuntu and it just works.  When I shut my computer off again and turn it on later, I go back to the error at the start.
[04:58] <Matt___> How do I stop this kernel panic from happening, and why is it happening?
[05:00] <madoka> what issue
[05:01] <Beldar> Matt___, Try another kernel and make sure that one was installed correctly.
[05:01] <Matt___> how do I do that?
[05:01] <Matt___> I apologize but I'm a relatively new linux user
[05:01] <Beldar> Matt___, The grub menu, does it have other kernels?
[05:01] <Matt___> Also, why would it work after rebooting every time
[05:02] <Matt___> I don't understand how everything just magically works after I hard reset
[05:02] <genii> Magic.
[05:02] <Matt___> lol
[05:03] <Matt___> Is there a way I can check my kernels for you with the CLI?
[05:04] <SthNotTaken> I"m having trouble logging into PHPMyAdmin. My disk is at 95%, I suspect this is the problem. I'm logged in with Putty. How could I go about finding out where my disk is being used?
[05:04] <zacwalls> how can i set up a proxy on xubuntu 13.04
[05:04] <Beldar> Matt___, What ubuntu release is this?
[05:04] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: disk space shouldn't have anything to do with phpmyadmin
[05:04] <Beldar> zacwalls, Why are you using an eol?
[05:05] <Matt___> This is Xubuntu 14.04
[05:05] <SthNotTaken> Ben64: not enough memory to store session. Session changes whenever I try to login, but I get a token.
[05:05] <zacwalls> Beldar know idea
[05:05] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: but to answer your question... "du -h --max-depth 1" in a directory will show all the directories in the current location and their sizes
[05:05] <SthNotTaken> Ben64: thank you
[05:05] <Beldar> Matt___, Has this kernel ever booted?
[05:06] <Matt___> That's what I'm saying...every time I reboot, it works
[05:06] <Matt___> I don't think im selecting anything different
[05:06] <Beldar> Matt___, But it doesn't when?
[05:06] <Matt___> after I shut off my computer, and then turn it on later
[05:06] <ax562> anyone know if I resize my ubuntu partition will I still be able to dual boot?  Or what I have to do to fix grub once I resize to prevent error?
[05:07] <Matt___> thats when it gives me a panic
[05:07] <SthNotTaken> How do I move up directories in ubuntu?
[05:07] <Matt___> it freezes, and then I respond by forcing the computer to poweroff manually
[05:07] <Beldar> Matt___, Sorry I have asked simple question and still do not understand you.
[05:07] <SthNotTaken> cd.. gets "command not found"
[05:07] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: cd ..
[05:08] <Matt___> Beldar:  I get this error 100% of the time I boot up normally
[05:08] <Matt___> Beldar:  Upon forcing a reset, it enters grub, and then when I select ubuntu, it works
[05:09] <Beldar> Matt___, Any boot is normal, do you mean from a computer powered off?
[05:09] <Matt___> yes
[05:09] <Matt___> from a computer powered off
[05:09] <Matt___> although, it technically is powered off when I force it off after a panic
[05:09] <Beldar> Matt___, What is forcing a reset?
[05:09] <SthNotTaken> I see 18G in './var' but also 19G in '.' I should have 20G total
[05:09] <Matt___> When the computer freezes with the error I presented, I have to hold the power botton
[05:09] <Matt___> and then turn it back on
[05:10] <Matt___> this is when it boots into grub and works
[05:10] <varunendra> Matt___, like Beldar hinted, have you tried booting into older kernel? To me it sounds like some error on partition or the hard disk/partition is taking too long to get ready.
[05:10] <Beldar> Matt___, Do you have other kernels that work everytime in the grub menu?
[05:11] <varunendra> Matt___, you must press 'Shift' (or Esc) at booting time to get grub menu if you don't get it by default.
[05:11] <Matt___> I haven't tried anything else in the grub menu...all I know is that it auto-selects ubuntu
[05:11] <Matt___> okay i understand, but I don't want to have to boot into grub every time
[05:11] <Matt___> I want it just to work
[05:12] <Matt___> is there a way I can check if the kernel is malfunctioning?
[05:12] <SthNotTaken> I found the problem, Ben64. I've been sending mail to myself somehow.
[05:12] <TJ-> Matt___: Check that the kernel version has a matching initrd.img and that that file is *not* truncated. This can happen when the /boot/ partition runs out of room when the initrd.img is being generated
[05:13] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - I don't know what the correct LTS Enablement Stacks to install.  I naively installed the files I posted here --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7930386/ which are actually incorrect.
[05:13] <Matt___> Can you tell me how to do this?  I'm relatively new to linux
[05:13] <SirLagz> Ben64: fixed the issue. damn my fuzzy eyes...mistyped something in /etc/resolv.conf =/
[05:13] <ax562> Weird.  Why would gparted boot disk not resize my partitions but ubuntu live cd gparted work?
[05:13] <Matt___> TJ: Can you tell me how to go about this?  I'm rather new to linux
[05:13] <eeee> ax562: cuz it's mounted in ubuntu ?
[05:14] <SirLagz> no idea why it got blanked out =/
[05:14] <Beldar> ax562, any partitions mounted on the gparted boot?
[05:14] <eeee> ax562: nevermind
[05:14] <SuperLag> I had attempted to install Hotot. It was a mess. I ended up going with Tweetdeck, in Chrome. I'm still getting phanton notifications from Hotot though. How can I get them to stop?
[05:14] <TJ-> Matt___: first, reboot the PC hold down shift key and at the GRUB boot menu, choose "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose any older kernel
[05:14] <Guest88081> gh
[05:14] <ax562> I was able to see all partitions on gparted.  I don't believe they were mounted and they aren't mounted in ubuntu live cd.
[05:14] <varunendra> Matt___, just try the grub menu (at cold boot) for a test. I think getting grub and needing to select something may just be an excuse to delay the booting for sometime, by then the hdd/partition gets ready.
[05:15] <Guest88081> vcvbç
[05:15] <Beldar> ax562, Could have sworn you had asked how to unmount one.
[05:15] <Matt___> Ahh I see
[05:15] <Matt___> So how would choosing an older kernel help that?
[05:16] <ax562> Beldar: yeah I did because I had mounted it in ubuntu live cd and then I umounted it.
[05:16] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: how did you install those
[05:16] <TJ-> Beldar: Matt___ varunendra The panic stack-trace shows that the failure is when the kernel tries to mount the initrd itself, which suggests the file is invalid
[05:16] <ax562> Beldar: I never mounted when I booted through gparted live cd.
[05:16] <Beldar> TJ-, I figured it was in some way.
[05:16] <Matt___> TJ: would boot-repair for Ubuntu solve this problem?
[05:16] <Beldar> ax562, Hard to say, you were there we were not.
[05:16] <Matt___> I am planning on following your instructions anyway, but I was just wondering
[05:17] <ax562> Beldar: mounting then unmounting would make a difference?
[05:17] <Matt___> TJ: So how do I fix initrd?
[05:17] <Beldar> ax562, theoretically if done correctly no.
[05:17] <jellow> SuperLag, Hi there , Did you install hotot from repo ?
[05:17] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - via Synaptic Package Manager.  At the time, this was the only way I caould install them.
[05:17] <varunendra> TJ-, sounds reasonable, so a live boot > do cleanup > rebuild initramfs fix?
[05:18] <TJ-> Matt___: No, boot-repair isn't going to fix it. First thing you need to determine is if the "/boot/" directory is in a separate file-system, and if so, if it has run out of space - that is the usual reason for a bad initrd.img file.
[05:18] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: should be fine
[05:18] <ax562> Beldar: what I'm really wondering if resizing my ubuntu partition is going to break grub?
[05:19] <TJ-> Matt___: If there are still older kernel versions there they will/should have good initrd.img files, so if you can boot to an older kernel, then you can check the system properly
[05:19] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - Ubuntu Unity is failing to display. I cannot get to my GUI log in screen.
[05:19] <SthNotTaken> Ben64: After deleting the mail, I can now login to PHPMyAdmin
[05:20] <Beldar> ax562, sometimes it does sometime it doesn't depends on a few factors, of which among them may be no black or white answer. Grub is easy to fix however with the right help.
[05:20] <TJ-> Matt___: If it isn't an out-of-space issue we need to dig deeper... it could just be some corruption occurred whilst writing the initrd.img, in which case you can regenerate it with "sudo update-intramfs -uk all"
[05:20] <Matt___> TJ:  I don't believe that my /boot is in its own file system.  I think that it is in my main file system
[05:20] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: you may need to reinstall your graphics drivers, or reset unity or something then
[05:20] <varunendra> TJ-, I don't have very extensive experience with this, but wouldn't a bad initramfs cause troubles *Everytime*?
[05:20] <TJ-> Matt___: in which case, see my last answer :)
[05:21] <ax562> Beldar: thanks man.  I will reboot once this is done and hopefully it is not broken.
[05:21] <Beldar> ax562, I have just noticed that in general you want exact answers but may not have the skills to make sure things happen as they should, just saying. ;)
[05:21] <TJ-> varunendra: In theory... but there's no evidence right now that sometimes a different version is being used. There could be issues with external devices connected, there could be I/O errors from the drive that are intermittent
[05:22] <Matt___> TJ:  I may have misinterpreted though.  What do you mean by, in its own file system?  Do you mean its own partition?
[05:22] <Matt___> TJ:  And how do I go about fixing it?
[05:22] <ax562> Beldar: trying to better understand.
[05:23] <eeee> Matt___: try to type in the terminal df | grep /boot
[05:23] <TJ-> Matt___: is the system booted right now?
[05:23] <ignerious> hello
[05:23] <Matt___> TJ:  I typed it in and nothing happened
[05:23] <Beldar> ax562, You are doing fine, I clone and backup everything in case I mess up or can't fix something, just makes things work for me easier.
[05:24] <ax562> Beldar: does grub care about memory locations or labels of partitions?
[05:24] <Matt___> TJ: no output I mean'
[05:24] <ignerious> how to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?
[05:24] <TJ-> Matt___: do this: "df | pastebinit" and tell us the URL of the paste
[05:24] <Beldar> ax562, It looks for the UUID address if you have not modified fstab.
[05:24] <varunendra> TJ-, Matt___ the I/O errors possibility is what I'm more inclined at, hence why I suggested delaying the boot anyhow (spend time on grub menu for example). Don't mean to barge in though, so I'll sit aside and watch the progress now.
[05:25] <ax562> Beldar: yeah.  I backed up a couple months back.  Not sure how great that's going to go because I'm using paragon back up now.  I've never used it before.
[05:25] <Matt___> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930459/
[05:25] <TJ-> varunendra: no, I tend to agree, but I prefer to see evidence before entirely guessing :) If there are disk errors, we should signs in the logs
[05:25] <ax562> Beldar: does the uuid number change if partition is resized?
[05:26] <TJ-> Matt___: "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" ... if that reports being too large, then do "tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[05:26] <Beldar> ax562,  I believe it can, I'm not real up on the changes made in a resize, you can make it in fstab a /dev/sdXX rather that UUID notation.
[05:27] <Matt___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930466/
[05:27] <Beldar> ax562, XX is disc and partition info
[05:28] <ax562> Beldar: Ok.  I have some experience with that.
[05:28] <ax562> Beldar: Ok.  What is the command to check uuid again?
[05:28] <Beldar> ax562, blkid
[05:29] <ax562> thanks
[05:30] <Matt___> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930466/
[05:30] <TJ-> Matt___: Yeah, I'm reading it now, thanks
[05:31] <TJ-> Matt___: "ls -al /boot/ | pastebinit"
[05:32] <Matt___> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930505/
[05:33] <eeee> my initrd is 19156966 in size
[05:34] <eeee> Matt___'s is slightly smaller
[05:34] <eeee> at 19154155
[05:35] <ignerious> how to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?
[05:35] <TJ-> Matt___: I don't think there is an issue with the initrd.img
[05:35] <ignerious> please anyone
[05:35] <eeee> TJ-: it's normal that the initrd is smaller in size?
[05:36] <TJ-> Matt___: I notice the system has a 120GB SSD. The initrd.img varies from system to system, it is dynamically generated
[05:36] <ax562> Beldar: thanks for the help. brb
[05:37] <eeee> oh ok
[05:37] <Matt___> TJ: Yeah, the SSD is the only drive in this laptop
[05:38] <TJ-> Matt___: I know of issues where systems fail to boot completely when the firmware and boot-loader get 'confused' by the speed of the SSD, but as your system has already read the grub files, and grub has loaded the vmlinuz kernel image, and *should* have also loaded the initrd.img into memory after ther kernel, I can't see that being an issue either
[05:39] <TJ-> Matt___: give me a few minutes to read the kernel source code in the mount_block_root() function, it may give me some ideas
[05:39] <Matt___> TJ: okay, thank you
[05:40] <varunendra> TJ-, Matt___ looks like the "*BAD*gran_size:" errors have long been associated with system freeze and requirement of a reboot. Matt___ is this a Gigabyte motherboard?
[05:40] <Matt___> verunendra: How do I check?
[05:42] <varunendra> Matt___, is it a desktop or laptop?
[05:42] <Matt___> laptop
[05:43] <Matt___> varunendra: laptop
[05:43] <varunendra> Matt___, I don't know a promising command, hunting for some. But Can you boot into BIOS and see if there is a feature called "IOMMU"?
[05:44] <varunendra> wow! did I scare him?
[05:44] <varunendra> nope :p
[05:44] <Matt___> oops accidentally got kicked off
[05:44] <Matt___> did i miss anything?
[05:44] <Matt___> varunendra, I cant go into BIOS without leaving this chat
[05:45] <Matt___> this is my only computer
[05:45] <TJ-> Matt___: according to the code, the file-system has a bad superblock when that happens... do you power-off the system too quick, before the disk data can be flushed and saved?
[05:46] <Matt___> TJ: All I do is shutdown with the Xubuntu GUI
[05:46] <TJ-> Matt___: bad superblock means one of the key file-system structures inside the initrd, in this case
[05:46] <subcool_> my computer is acting stupid...
[05:46] <subcool_> OH and would u look at that TJ is here
[05:47] <subcool_> TJ-, :)
[05:47] <SuperLag> jellow: I had installed it from the repo. Hotot, that is. I've since removed it. Notifications finally went away.
[05:47] <TJ-> subcool_: I know, sorry, its all my fault :p
[05:47] <Matt___> TJ: I don't even know what powering off the system too fast means, besides manually holding the power button haha
[05:47] <Matt___> TJ:  I just shutdown with the GUI
[05:48] <TJ-> Matt___: OK, that's fine, I'm just trying to think of all causes of that issue. Let's move on. How regularly does this happen/
[05:48] <SuperLag> Different question. In Settings > Details, my default browser is listed as "Google Chrome (Unstable)". However, somethings are still opening the "Ubuntu Web Browser". How can I ensure that any calls of a URL open only Chrome?
[05:48] <Matt___> TJ:  One other thing to note, is that reboots dont cause this error ever
[05:48] <subcool_> TJ-, its ok, -- it happens :)
[05:48] <TJ-> Matt___: so cold-boots only?
[05:48] <Matt___> TJ: If by cold-boot you mean booting after the computer has been completely shut off for awhile
[05:49] <subcool_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:49] <subcool_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:49] <subcool_>  libavcodec53
[05:49] <subcool_>  libavformat53
[05:49] <subcool_>  libavdevice53
[05:49] <Matt___> TJ: then yes
[05:49] <TJ-> Matt___: yes, that's what it means
[05:49] <subcool_>  libavfilter2
[05:49] <unopaste> subcool_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[05:49] <TJ-> Matt___: OK, so other than this the PC behaves itself?
[05:49] <Matt___> TJ: yeah, I mean I get these Xorg errors occasionally, but that's about it
[05:49] <Matt___> TJ: I'm not sure if they are related
[05:50] <TJ-> Matt___: what are they?
[05:50] <Matt___> TJ: shit, I wish I saved them.....I just remember something about Xorg.conf or something
[05:50] <Matt___> TJ: but i honestly cant remember
[05:51] <ignerious> how to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?
[05:51] <ignerious> please anyone
[05:51] <Abhijit> hi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.
[05:52] <frybye> is there some way I can use the automated bug-reporting system in 14.04 to address sys-app problems with a mainline kernel 3.15?
[05:52] <Matt___> TJ: I don't know if this will tell you anyting, but this is the boot info summary from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930611/
[05:53] <Matt___> TJ: IS this it???  The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition)"
[05:53] <Matt___> TJ : I just read this in the boot report
[05:55] <TJ-> Matt___: I don't know why it is reporting that! The files are at the beginning of the disk
[05:57] <Matt___> TJ: is there a way I can try and fix it?  This seems to be the problem right?  whether or not it is, it thinks it isnt at the start right?
[05:57] <Abhijit> hi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.
[05:58] <ignerious> just like login screen
[05:58] <TJ-> Matt___: Don't touch that, it is a totally wrong report
[05:59] <Matt___> TJ: :(
[05:59] <Matt___> TJ: I have to go to bed soon.  Is there any way I can get into contact with you to continue this tomorrow?  (especially if it will take longer?)
[06:00] <varunendra> Matt___, like TJ- , I also don't believe it is a boot configuration error. Most probably a memory, or disk/memory I/O, or BIOS issue.
[06:00] <varunendra> Matt___, how old is this laptop?
[06:00] <TJ-> Matt___: I suggest you do a memtest of the RAM. Do a total power-off shutdown. Leave it a fe minutes, then boot-up, access the GRUB boot menu, and then choose "Memory test (memtest86+)" and let it run for 1/2 hour or more... if no errors are reported, it *ought* to be ok.
[06:01] <Matt___> varuenendra: This laptop is brand new.  super good processor, 16 GB of ram
[06:01] <Matt___> TJ: Ok, will do.  Will you be on this forum tomorrow?  Are there hours you are usually here?
[06:01] <TJ-> Matt___: let's just check memtest is installed first, though, with "grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg" -- if you get any lines back with memtest in them, it is installed
[06:02] <varunendra> Matt___, any RAM upgrades or is it the default one? By the way, you may wish to post a thread at ubuntuforums.org if the problem doesn't get solved in live chat here.
[06:02] <TJ-> Matt___: I'm in England... its 0700 here... for some silly reason I've stayed up all night working, so this particular time is unusual for me
[06:02] <Matt___> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' { 	knetbsd	/boot/memtest86+.elf menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' { 	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
[06:02] <varunendra> Matt___, and also try the 'delay booting by spending time in grub' suggestion.
[06:05] <Ironwave> Hi, Im atempting to save a text file in my new apache2 folder, It says I dont have permission, How Do I obtain such permission? Im logged in as admin as far as I know...
[06:05] <ignerious> how to change lockscreen backgroung automatically with the desktop one ubuntu 14.04?
[06:05] <Abhijit> Ironwave, sudo nano filepath
[06:05] <Abhijit> Ironwave, use sudo
[06:06] <TJ-> varunendra: I'm not sure how timing would help here ... BIOS has loaded GRUB MBR, which has loaded core.img which has loaded the modules and menu, which has loaded vmlinuz into RAM before initrd.img ... and when the kernel starts there are no disk access warnings in its log either. It'd have to be a pretty unique stutter by the disk, for it to always cause this particular panic, rather than random faults
[06:06] <Ironwave> Abhijit: I asume you say that I must do this out of terminal then?
[06:06] <Abhijit> Ironwave, in the terminal.
[06:07] <TJ-> varunendra: Matt___ This is more like potential 'sticky bits' in the RAM module where initrd.img gets loaded... grub doesn't do address randomisation so its always the same place
[06:07] <varunendra> TJ-, all those logs were recorded when the system booted fine. When it doesn't, it may not even get time to record those logs
[06:07] <Ironwave> Abhijit: Is there a way to do it from out the text editor? cos I don't know how to make the document in the terminal, and then save it.
[06:07] <TJ-> varunendra: My point is, the fault is always at the same place. a randomly faulty disk I/O wouldn't happen at exactly the same place every time
[06:08] <eeee> Ironwave: you could type gksu gedit /path/to/file
[06:08] <Matt___> TJ and varunendra: sorry guys i gotta leave now.  Thank you so much for all the help.  I will certainly be back here tomorrow so I hope to see you guys again
[06:08] <TJ-> varunendra: Matt___ but without better evidence we can still only guess.
[06:08] <Guest10296> Yo
[06:08] <eeee> Ironwave: or you could browse the file manager with elevated privileges, using gksu nautilus . (typed in the terminal)
[06:08] <Ironwave> eeee: thanks, Ill try that.
[06:09] <Ironwave> Abhijit: Thanks for the help
[06:09] <svetlana> (already asked at the #debian channel, they don't know) how can I view (and navigate) packages dependency graph with aggregated sizes of each graph node?
[06:10] <SuperLag> Different question. In Settings > Details, my default browser is listed as "Google Chrome (Unstable)". However, somethings are still opening the "Ubuntu Web Browser". How can I ensure that any calls of a URL open only Chrome?
[06:10] <varunendra> TJ-, that suggestion is based on USB booting I have experienced. With some BIOS, I always have to delay the detection time to >5 seconds. Otherwise the "Cold booting" fails. With some laptop models, a "Cold" booting ALWAYS fails with those usb sticks, while a hot reboot never fails.
[06:11] <varunendra> TJ-, but yes, I'm myself doubtful in case of an internal drive. I know it is pure guessing with little to no evidence.
[06:11] <TJ-> varunendra: but have you ever had it read the boot-loader and kernel completely fine, then keel over? I've seen it happen where the disk isn't ready when the BIOS looks for the PT and MBR, and so passes over the device, but not like this.
[06:11] <ignerious> please anyone
[06:11] <OERIAS> ?join #debian
[06:14] <subcool_> TJ how do i clear this up? i tried -f Install.. did the posts get removed? i got paused because i posted them.
[06:14] <varunendra> TJ-, in case of older (dying) drives, I have, but never seen that with a new one. And yes, the failures of that kind were random.
[06:15] <TJ-> subcool_: I've not idea what your issue is
[06:15] <subcool_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:15] <subcool_>  libavcodec53
[06:15] <subcool_>  libavformat53
[06:16] <genii> !pastebin | subcool_
[06:16] <subcool_> a few more too..
[06:16] <frybye> j/ #ubuntu-de
[06:16] <subcool_> doesnt work.. - i need to press yes for the command to complete
[06:17] <TJ-> subcool_: I'm guessing you've been using some packages from a PPA or other source, not the main Ubuntu archives, and they've broken the dependency graph
[06:18] <subcool_> TJ, i suppose... but its blocking my update
[06:18] <young001> hi,all,I have a shell :ls *.torrent|xargs -I {} tar -cvf 600.tar.gz {}|du -sh 600.tar.gz|cut -f1|awk '{ total += $1}; END { print total }'  it will tell terminated by signal 13, how to corrent it ?
[06:19] <subcool_> TJ-, appears to be simple codec stuff
[06:20] <TJ-> subcool_: you'll probably need to manually remove the offending packages using "dpkg -r <package-name>" until "apt-get -f install" can recover
[06:20] <subcool_> ok. thank you
[06:25] <Abhijit> hi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.
[06:27] <ax562> back on the attack.  Thanks for all the help #ubuntu.  I didn't need to modify grub.  Weird how gparted boot disk wouldn't partition but ubuntu boot did
[06:33] <Beldar> ax562, Can you clearly tell if a partition is mounted using gparted?
[06:33] <Beldar> do you know what you're looking for?
[06:42] <Ironwave> Hi, my Laptops wireless conection drops insistently after 2 minutes.  Any ideas how to get it to work?
[06:43] <Ironwave> toshiba satelite. Ubuntu desktop version
[06:44] <varunendra> Ironwave, try this script to generate a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[06:44] <varunendra> then give us its pastebin link, Ironwave
[06:44] <Ironwave> verunendra: Thanks
[06:45] <varunendra> Ironwave, that's not a fix, just helps in determining a solution. :)
[06:45] <Ironwave> verunendra: Thanks for the help, non the less :-)
[06:45] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[06:49] <helmut_> hi
[06:50] <Ironwave> verunendra: How can I "paste" into terminal? cntrl v dont work?
[06:51] <varunendra> Ironwave, Ctrl-Shift-V
[06:52] <varunendra> Ironwave, or mouse right-click > Paste :)
[06:52] <Ironwave> verunendra: That embarisingly easy :-/
[06:53] <varunendra> :p
[06:58] <happyfr0gg> If I download the new Ubuntu 12.04.4 iso with the new Saucy HWE stack, will this act like a completely new install?
[06:58] <grobe0ba> happyfr0gg, yes
[06:59] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, if doing a fresh install, it'll act like a fresh install :)
[06:59] <varunendra> otherwise not.
[06:59] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, What do you plan to do with the download?
[07:01] <happyfr0gg> I was hoping this would upgrade and update my current Precise install that does not have the new Saucy HWE stack.
[07:02] <Ironwave> verunendra: pastebin.com/AaSb2MDK
[07:03] <Ironwave> verunendra: Thank you for creating the "experimental parts" :-D Its was snapshot during wireless working condition.
[07:04] <ax562> Beldar: sorry for the late response.  Gparted boot disk never mounted any partition.  When in ubuntu boot disk, I mounted then unmounted my filesystem partitions.  Then, I partitioned and it worked flawlessly.  I din't try to partition before any mounting sequence though so I'm not sure If that's what did it.
[07:04] <happyfr0gg> Beldar - does the download offer a update/upgrade option? I don't want certain user data I have stored to be erased.
[07:05] <Beldar> ax562, Can you tell if mounted or unmounted clearly was my question.
[07:05] <varunendra> Ironwave, you have uploaded the script itself. Please run it as per instructions in the post. If you did, it should have generated a "wireless-info.txt" file (or wireless-info.tar.gz). We need to see the contents of that file.
[07:05] <bluegoon> Guys I'm trying to mount my other harddrive
[07:05] <bluegoon> but getting this error
[07:05] <bluegoon> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “343c8d3d-13eb-488d-ad23-e34eeeaf0494”.
[07:06] <bluegoon> When I ls the drive, it looks like it belongs to user 999?
[07:06] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, The download is an iso you burn to a disc or load a usb with.
[07:07] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Your question was just strange enough hard to tell what you thinking is all.
[07:07] <ax562> Beldar: yes you can.  You cannot resize if mounted.
[07:08] <Beldar> ax562, true, but do you know the icon you would see on a mounted partition?
[07:08] <ax562> Beldar: It also give you the mount/unmount options when you are on one or the other.
[07:09] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, if you want to upgrade your existing installation to Sausy HE stack, read the command instructions here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[07:09] <ax562> i used the drop down.
[07:10] <Beldar> ax562, I think you may have just not known you see a little lock on mounted partitions, install gparted open it and you will see what I mean.
[07:10] <ax562> Ok on the list that shows the partitions right?
[07:10] <Beldar> Beldar, generally what happens is the swap is automounted is all
[07:11] <Beldar> yeah
[07:12] <Beldar> ax562, I'm not sure on the gparted boot disc the locks are there, different versions may have other indicators is all.
[07:12] <ax562> yeah I seen them but I didn't recognize their function. now I know.  I would know if I could unmount/mount and vice versa.
[07:13] <ax562> I believe they were their on both version but I believe my gparted is older version than what was on the ubuntu disk.  but the gui looked very similar.
[07:13] <Beldar> ax562, A computer will act up, it may have just been an anomaly on the gparted boot, just making sure you know the options to check is all. ;)
[07:13] <ax562> thanks
[07:15] <happyfr0gg> Beldar - If I do the procedures as outlined in the link you provided, will they include the needed dependencies and recommended packages??
[07:17] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, I never gave you a link.
[07:17] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, I think you mean the LTSEnablement link I gave you. Yes, after installing whatever that wiki tells you, everything will be up to date. The kernel, headers and Xorg packages that is.
[07:18] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, but a clean install is always the best and safest way to go. After trying it in Live Mode of course.
[07:18] <linuxuz3r> hi
[07:19] <justme12> hi all, i'm a newbie with ubuntu, but not linux/unix, ran 14.04 and upgraded 14.04.1 but now unity is broken: no top panel, no icons on the left - don't know which program is responsible for that part, compiz or?
[07:19] <Ironwave> verunendra: I selected the wrong file :-p  Here is the right one.  Pastebin.com/xce2hFgy
[07:20] <justme12> detail: desktop icons appear, context menu for root window also ... but no top panel/bar or icons on the left
[07:21] <happyfr0gg> varunendra - hopefully this will fix the Unity log in screen not displaying at all. I currently get a black screen. I am running Fedora in live usb mode.
[07:22] <paulpaul1111> how do i change directories in the files application? like i want to just enter /usr/bin and get into that directory, how do i do that?
[07:23] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, no idea about that, so can't say whether it may help or not. It'll surely upgrade your Xorg packages though, so you *may* have to reconfigure the graphics (xorg.conf file) if you did it manually last time.
[07:25] <justme12> varunendra: I guess you addressed my problem :-) I did not change xorg.conf manually .. all worked just fine with simple install for 2 weeks until 14.04.1 upgrade .. I installed GNOME desktop which works (right now I use f-irc on the console)
[07:26] <justme12> varunendra: misread .. ignore
[07:26] <varunendra> justme12, good correction, because all I can do with graphics issues is to mess them up real good :p
[07:27] <happyfr0gg> varunendra - I installed the incorrect LTSEnablement Stack for Trusty.
[07:28] <varunendra> Ironwave, are you in South Africa? And do you have admin access to the router you are connecting to?
[07:28] <Ironwave> verunendra: I disable networking, and then enable networking, then it conects to the network, for a few minutes, the report is on the conected state
[07:28] <Ironwave> verunendra: Yes, South Africa, Its my own router, so yes.
[07:29] <varunendra> Ironwave, just type "varu" then press 'Tab' -- it'll autocomplete my nick name. You are typing a wrong spelling currently :)
[07:29] <Ironwave> varunendra: ^^ Im so sorry
[07:30] <hagbard1> hi all
[07:30] <happyfr0gg> varunendra - I naively followed what Updated Manager was told me.
[07:30] <varunendra> Ironwave, that's no problem. :)
[07:32] <varunendra> Ironwave,  just make sure the country setting (if visible or editable) in the router is set to "South Africa", then try explicitly defining your country code (ZA) for regdomain settings in Ubuntu, with the following command - "sudo sed -i 's/^REG.*=$/&ZA/' /etc/default/crda"  - it'll take effect after a reboot.
[07:32] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, so any problems now?
[07:33] <Ironwave> varunendra: Outch. ok. Ill go mess with the setting, Always Fun :-D Thanks for the help.
[07:33] <varunendra> Ironwave, besides that change, you should also try some available driver parameters as suggested here (change "rtl8192ce" with "rtl8192se" in the commands) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12815912
[07:34] <Ironwave> varunendra: Great :-) Your the best
[07:34] <varunendra> Ironwave, only if it helps, which it rarely does :p
[07:35] <Ironwave> varunendra: Haha, Ill be back I have plenty other problems too :-) one at a time.
[07:35] <varunendra> Ironwave, if you can catch me here :D
[07:36] <hagbard1> guys, could someone help me please with audio card? i have ubuntu 14.04 minimum install, lenovo g505 with amd 8330
[07:36] <hagbard1> and i cannot get audio to work :(
[07:36] <hagbard1> proprietary drivers from amd are installed, and video/hdmi output work fine
[07:37] <happyfr0gg> varunendra - I am currently limited to the root shell prompt via the Grub Recovery Mode.
[07:37] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, that's too bad :(
[07:39] <happyfr0gg> varunendra: yeah, it effing sucks!
[07:40] <varunendra> !bootoptions | happyfr0gg, tried boot options?
[07:40] <varunendra> happyfr0gg, especially 'nomodeset'
[07:44] <eGGshke> Hello all !
[07:45] <eGGshke> Can anyone else tells you how to track broken repository ?
[07:45] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu eGGshke
[07:46] <eGGshke> bazhang 14.04
[07:46] <bazhang> eGGshke, how is the repo broken; is it a PPA or what
[07:46] <eGGshke> bazhang yeah, PPA repo
[07:47] <bazhang> eGGshke, contact the PPA maintainer for that
[07:47] <eGGshke> I get an error in the notification
[07:50] <eGGshke> bazhang Can I receive error from apache ?
[07:50] <eGGshke> bazhang in notification panel
[07:53] <bazhang> eGGshke, you are using a ppa for apache?
[07:54] <eGGshke> bazhang no, i using it in standart ppa.
[07:55] <bazhang> eGGshke, ppa are not standard
[07:55] <bazhang> !ppa
[07:56] <Beldar> eGGshke, Can you show us this ppa?
[07:56] <Abhijit> hi. this is my network interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930607/ and this is my dhcpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/7930608/ on ubuntu 14.04 server. dhcp server fails saying no subnet declaration for eth0. there is only one card.
[07:57] <eGGshke> Beldar How can I do that ?
[07:57] <Abhijit> copy paste link?
[07:57] <Beldar> eGGshke, Any ppa has a web page.
[07:59] <eGGshke> Beldar I fixed it helped: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:59] <ripthejacker> Is is okay to have different filesystem types for root and home partitions?
[07:59] <grobe0ba> Abhijit, yeah, i can see why it isn't working
[07:59] <grobe0ba> because there is no subnet declaration for eth0
[07:59] <Abhijit> :-o
[07:59] <grobe0ba> you are using a completely different IP range on the card
[07:59] <ripthejacker> Eg. / is of type ext4 and /home is of type ext3? Will it cause any problem?
[07:59] <grobe0ba> than you are trying to serve with dhcpd
[08:00] <clark__> hi all, I looking for a tool for monitor changes in my file system.
[08:00] <Abhijit> grobe0ba, how to correct it?
[08:00] <grobe0ba> you obviously didn't bother changing anything in that example file
[08:00] <grobe0ba> to fit your situation
[08:00] <grobe0ba> Abhijit, read the file. change to match
[08:00] <Abhijit> ok
[08:00] <Beldar> ripthejacker, Should not be an issue, is this a purposeful file setup?
[08:01] <ripthejacker> Beldar, I cannot format my /home partition and this is a five year old machine. and I am formatting my root partition
[08:02] <Beldar> ripthejacker, I figured that was the case, thanks.
[08:02] <ripthejacker> Beldar, so should I stick to ext3 or go ahead with ext4?
[08:02] <Beldar> ripthejacker, Your choice really.
[08:02] <ripthejacker> Beldar, thanks a ton :)
[08:02] <clark__> ..for example now I have a totally fresh OS install and should like to be able to log every change in the system
[08:03] <Beldar> clark__, Is the next question "how do I do it"?
[08:06] <clark__> Beldar, was hopping to find a tool, what I want to be able to do is that every time I run an apt-get install I get a new md5sum over the system
[08:06] <clark__> ..or something like that
[08:12] <Abhijit> grobe0ba, working now.
[08:13] <grobe0ba> yeah, it tends to do that when you don't try to use an example file without modifying it
[08:13] <Abhijit> :-p
[08:21] <alipoor90> Hi
[08:21] <alipoor90> How Can I add items to Gnome 3 right click menu?
[08:23] <ivan__> ma
[08:26] <lesshaste> for some odd reason my keyboard layout seems to have changed to US. When I do shift-2 I get @ instead of "
[08:26] <lesshaste> how can I change it back to UK?
[08:27] <clark__> basically I want to set up  system that let me rollback to previous state,are there any GUI tool available to help me with this ? Google give nothing, any ideas ?
[08:29] <Ironwave> varunendra: Hi, are you online?
[08:29] <varunendra> Ironwave, yup
[08:29] <Ironwave> varunendra: as per sugestion, I checked my settings on router, its set to south africa
[08:29] <wulong710> hello. My laptop always disconnect internet , with error "ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x18f!". My  network adapter is AR9287. Anyone had met with this situation?
[08:30] <Ironwave> varunendra: When I ran the code you give, to put ubuntu on south africa settings,it gives a tipe of menu. not sure if that is right?
[08:31] <Ironwave> varunendra: I also tried the settings in the terminal, and it wont connect at all after that, all 3 diferent ones. it just keeps scanning allthough it sees the network...
[08:33] <varunendra> Ironwave, the 'sed' command I suggested should return no outputs. It silently modifies a file. What do you see if you now enter "iw reg get" in terminal? Does the first line show "ZA"?
[08:33] <Ironwave> varunendra: country 00
[08:34] <varunendra> Ironwave, and the commands to apply the parameters (temporarily) are sets of two each. The "modprobe -r.." removes the driver thus disabling the wireless, the "modprobe" without "-r" reloads the driver, thus enabling it again.
[08:35] <varunendra> Ironwave, "country 00" means the command was not run properly. Can you show us the exact command you entered in the terminal for regdomain settings?
[08:35] <Ironwave> varunendra: sek, ill type it over
[08:35] <varunendra> wulong710, that error sounds familiar, but in context of Intel driver (iwlwifi). Don't remember seeing it with ath9k.
[08:36] <varunendra> wulong710, can we see a report generated by this script ? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222  - give us its pastebin link.
[08:37] <varunendra> Ironwave, by the way, you can Temporarily set the regdomain setting with "sudo iw reg set ZA" command. You can then confirm the change with "iw reg set" command.
[08:38] <Ironwave> varunendra: sudo sed -i's/^REG.*=$/&ZA /'/etc/default/crda
[08:39] <Ironwave> varunendra: the menu I get as a reply gives a lot of numbers. usage sed option    -n --quit, --silent
[08:39] <varunendra> Ironwave, there is no space after "ZA", and there IS an space after the closing single quote (')
[08:40] <Abhijit> whats that terminal app to list disk usage in tree view?
[08:40] <wulong710> varunendra:  ok . i will try it .
[08:40] <varunendra> Ironwave, there is also a space after "-i". The command again - "sudo sed -i 's/^REG.*=$/&ZA/' /etc/default/crda"
[08:41]  * Symmetria waves at the other south african in the room
[08:42] <Ironwave> Symmetria: *WAVES BACK*
[08:45] <Ironwave> varunendra: mmm, I typed it over, now it run, without giving a reply. still, when I do iw reg get, it says country 00. Ill try the reg set za first
[08:47] <varunendra> Ironwave, like I said earlier, the change caused by the 'sed' command will take effect after a reboot. But the "iw reg set" command will do that immediately.
[08:47] <Ironwave> varunendra: The temporary one worked
[08:47] <Ironwave> ill restart quickly
[08:47] <varunendra> Ironwave, the permanent one has also worked. :) You'll notice the change after a reboot :)
[08:47] <varunendra> Ironwave, not needed
[08:49] <Ironwave> varunendra:  needed. I have to reset the driver parameters to how it was, cos I cant connct at all to the net now
[08:50] <varunendra> Ironwave, just reload the drivers without parameters.
[08:50] <Ironwave> varunendra:  I dont know how?
[08:50] <varunendra> Ironwave, "sudo modprobe -rv rtl8192se" .... then .... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192se"
[08:51] <varunendra> Ironwave, which one (the parameters) did you try last?
[08:51] <Ironwave> swenc
[08:52] <varunendra> Ironwave, I don't think any of the suggested three should cause connectivity problems. Did you get any error while running the command? I am suspecting a typo there.
[08:53] <Trudko> guys I cant disable touchpad while typing I tried settings and I tried pointing devices app doesnt seem to work
[08:54] <varunendra> Ironwave, have to go for half an hour or so. Meanwhile, I suggest you try the parameters again. All three if needed. I have seen most success with the "fwlps=0" in cases like yours.
[08:54] <Ironwave> varunendra:  the first listed one. sudo modprobe -rv rtl8192se hit enter, then sudo modprobe -v rtl8192se swenc=1 No errors, just a scanning of the networks but not connecting, alltho its visible.
[08:54] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Ok, thanks you very much. Ill do again
[08:54] <varunendra> Ironwave, that's correct, no typos
[08:54] <varunendra> okay then, see you later.. Ironwave :)
[08:55] <Ironwave> *waves at verunendra*
[09:01] <high_fiver> !tomboy
[09:01] <high_fiver> IRC channel for Tomboy anyone?
[09:01] <ikonia> search
[09:01] <ikonia> it's not a yellow pages
[09:09] <ivali> I have separate partitions for /home and /. If i upgrade my ubuntu and choose partitions accordingly, will i lose anything from /home ?
[09:11] <yz3pD> backup it!
[09:12] <ivali> yz3pD, thank you for the tip, i will do it. I thought the point of having separate partitions was that i don't need a backup.
[09:12] <shndns> ivali you dont have to but it would be smart to
[09:13] <chrias> hi
[09:14] <shndns> hi
[09:14] <smaboshe> Hello! I'm trying to upgrade to the latest LTS. I'm getting 'ValueError: unknown locale: en_ZM' when running 'sudo do-release-upgrade'. Help?
[09:16] <yz3pD> ivaldi, everybody things : i don't need a backup, but then the hd crashs...
[09:20] <antonio_> Hey folks...
[09:20] <antonio_> has anyone else had a problem with skype not working / connecting today?
[09:21] <antonio_> I also saw that skype needed to be updated on my phone.  Any chance that Skype did an update that broke the Linux versions today?
[09:23] <diego_1> hello unable to mount external hard drive
[09:23] <backbox> Need more information than that
[09:23] <diego_1> weird message i unplug without ejecting by mistake any suggestions , can i reboot ubuntu
[09:24] <backbox> you mean you installed and didnt eject after installtion?
[09:24] <diego_1> unable to mount external hard drive
[09:25] <diego_1> input /output error
[09:25] <backbox> unable to mount as root?
[09:25] <backbox> or unable to mount the os
[09:25] <backbox> mount the os on /
[09:25] <diego_1> unable to mount external hard drive on my ubuntu
[09:26] <diego_1> ubuntu works fine i just unplug it yesterday witout unmounting
[09:26] <backbox> can you give me more details?
[09:26] <diego_1> asking if i can just reboot ubuntu and connect again my external hard drive will it mount again ?
[09:27] <backbox> yes
[09:27] <diego_1> thanks
[09:27] <backbox> if you trying to dual boot a distro use partitioning
[09:32] <antonio_> I also saw that skype needed to be updated on my phone.  Any chance that Skype did an update that broke the Linux versions today?
[09:33] <_littlebit> hi people, is there a way to diagnose the boot time of an ubuntu system?
[09:34] <_littlebit> in order to optimize the boot. like seeing what programs take the most time during the boot etc?
[09:35] <high_fiver> _littlebit, post a link to your boot-info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
[09:40] <Ironwave> Hi. When I setup up a conection on my laptop. Is it recomended that I enter the BSSID and Device MAC address also?
[09:40] <Ironwave> ubunto desktop.
[09:41] <Ironwave> IMy conection keeps dropping.
[09:42] <matty_r> problems with your wifi?
[09:43] <high_fiver> Ironwave, you don't "need" to as they should be picked up automatically when joining the wireless connection
[09:43] <high_fiver> what's the issue?
[09:43] <Ironwave> matty_r:  Yes. But I think its a simple matter, in that I just dont know how to set it up proprly
[09:44] <Ironwave> high_fiver:  I connect right, but after 5 mins, it disconects
[09:44] <matty_r> is it a broadcom chip?
[09:44] <Ironwave> high_fiver:  This is via wifi
[09:44] <Ironwave> matty_r:  I dont know.
[09:46] <varunendra> matty_r, it is a Realtek, using rtl8192se.
[09:46] <matty_r> go into terminal and typr sudo lshw > hw_info
[09:47] <varunendra> Ironwave, still the same situation?
[09:47] <Ironwave> varunendra: Yes, But I suspect a simple issue, rather, like i dont know how to set it up maybe,
[09:47] <varunendra> Ironwave, may we see a fresh report of the wireless_script showing the current status?
[09:48] <Ironwave> varunendra: reason. current status is off. I have to amnualy refresh networks, then it conncet for 5 mins.
[09:49] <Ironwave> varunendra: I will load a new one now. Just want to say; all of your ideas scan, but it dont connect. Thus the problem might be that my default setup is maybe wrong?
[09:50] <varunendra> Ironwave, since you have tried some changes, it is a good idea to see clearly where we are standing now.
[09:50] <Ironwave> varunendra:  no problem, ill get the info now
[09:51] <dacorr1> Has anyone encountered an issue with wine not being able to detect directdraw?
[09:52] <Ironwave> varunendra:  oh :-/ I have to restart, cos network wont conect at all now.
[09:52] <varunendra> Ironwave, the script can be run manually
[09:52] <varunendra> ..without internet connection.
[09:53] <dkjldkj> did ubuntu ever switch to systemd?
[09:53] <Ironwave> varunendra:  im listening? But im restarting, so it is no problem, dont take lang
[09:53] <varunendra> as you wish Ironwave :)
[09:54] <Bashing-om> ax562: Power outage here,,, How is your status with the partition expansion ?
[10:00] <Ironwave> varunendra: pastebin.com/5GtH7UDY
[10:00] <Ironwave> varunendra: I am unfortunately much slowr then my pc :-/
[10:00] <high_fiver> dkjldkj, can't find systemd service
[10:01] <high_fiver> dkjldkj, I presume it would be a service
[10:01] <Ironwave> varunendra: Aditional info. Right after restart, the default is conection is conected.
[10:03] <varunendra> Ironwave, as I can see now, there is only one connection now? Or are there more? I mean the connection profile you have saved (Wi-Fi connection 1)?
[10:03] <dkjldkj> high_fiver: it replaces upstart
[10:03] <dkjldkj> it's a init
[10:03] <Ironwave> varunendra:  I deleted all profiles and made a new one again. there is suposed to be one only
[10:04] <Ironwave> varunendra:  I see another conection, but its not mine.
[10:04] <varunendra> Ironwave, that is oaky, actually what I was going to recommend.
[10:04] <dkjldkj> most distributions are making the switch to systemd
[10:05] <dkjldkj> Fedora, Arch, etc to name a few
[10:05] <Ironwave> varunendra:  I want you to take me trough the setup please, as I think im doing something wrong mayhaps
[10:05] <dkjldkj> I read somewhere Ubuntu would make the move soon
[10:05] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Here is what I see.
[10:06] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Rather, wait a wile If you please. My laptop is still conected...
[10:06] <varunendra> Ironwave, please try changing channel 6 in the router to channel 1 or 11. And just for a test, also try disabling 'N' mode in the router (set it to b/g only mode). Reboot the router after saving any changes.
[10:07] <dkjldkj> Ironwave: having wireless issues?
[10:07] <Ironwave> dkjldkj: Yes, But varunendra is very helpful thank you.
[10:07] <Giora> Is there anyway to disable this awful global menu for v14.04?
[10:07] <Ironwave> dkjldkj: And im to slow to follow multiple peoples sugestions :-p
[10:08] <dkjldkj> Ironwave: what wireless card do you have if you don't mind me asking?
[10:08] <dkjldkj> Ironwave: sorry
[10:08] <varunendra> Ironwave, another person's ideas can always do the magic though :)
[10:08] <Ironwave> varunendra: No doubt! but as I say, Im taxed to follow even these simple instructions. ! Im a complete noob.
[10:09] <varunendra> dkjldkj, a detailed report about Ironwave's wireless setup : http://pastebin.com/5GtH7UDY
[10:09] <kostkon> Giora, yes, in your Appearance settings
[10:09] <Ironwave> dkjldkj: Thank you for wanting to help! No offence!
[10:09] <Giora> I don't want it integrated locally
[10:09] <Giora> I want it gone entirely
[10:09] <Giora> Back to its old behavior
[10:10] <varunendra> Ironwave, so the changes I just suggested are to be made in the router. In Ubuntu, try setting "IPv6" to "Ignore" in Network Manager. Doesn't seem related, but just to reduce possible complexities.
[10:10] <dkjldkj> Ironwave: modinfo rtl8192se
[10:11] <dkjldkj> might be some parameters that need to be set
[10:11] <varunendra> dkjldkj, that is included in the report. :)
[10:11] <Ironwave> varunendra: Question. It looks to me Like the settings is weak on the card itself. It disconect cos the conection becomes unavailable.  In THE OTHER OS, the cards strenth can be set to maximum. Can it be set here?
[10:12] <varunendra> Ironwave, you can only set transmission strength, which seems okay in the report. (20 dBm)
[10:12] <dkjldkj> sorry i see it now
[10:13] <Ironwave> varunendra: Reason. just before conection drop, I get 2 stripes conection. But the router is 2 meters away, so that cant posibly be true.
[10:14] <varunendra> Ironwave, there may be a problem of loose antenna connection, but this driver is known to have such issues with the latest kernels in Ubuntu. Usually we suggest trying a backported driver in such cases, but unfortunately a recent bug causes it to fail to compile on kernel versions > 3.13.0-30
[10:15] <Giora> kostkon: isn't there any way to disable it entirely?
[10:15] <dkjldkj> Ironwave: have you tried a different network manager like "wicd"?
[10:15] <varunendra> Ironwave, two of the three suggested parameters try to address the same issue (they disable firmware/link power save, so it performs on 100% power all the time)
[10:15] <Ironwave> dkjldkj: I downloaded 2 but it didnt even conect, Ill look up your sugestion.
[10:16] <kostkon> Giora, not sure whether it is possible in 14.04. I could only find this http://askubuntu.com/questions/441421/how-to-disable-global-menu-and-have-always-visible-menu-bars
[10:16] <Ironwave> varunendra:  edit wifi connection - ipv6  settings - I se no way to ignore settings...
[10:17] <varunendra> Ironwave, it should be under "IPv6 Settings" tab
[10:17] <Giora> kostkon: Alright thanks I'll try to figure it out myself
[10:17] <varunendra> Ironwave, "Method" field
[10:17] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Gotit.
[10:18] <varunendra> Ironwave, can you download about 8-9 MB package? We can try the backports anyway.
[10:19] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Im sure, Looks like I get about 10 to 15 mins uptime when I conncet
[10:19] <varunendra> Ironwave, sure of what?
[10:20] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Sure that I can download plenty :-)
[10:20] <varunendra> Ironwave, then please download the 3.15.1-1 package from here : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[10:20] <varunendra> let me know whey it's done Ironwave
[10:20] <varunendra> when*
[10:20] <Ironwave> varunendra:  im on it.
[10:22] <chrirc> hi...when i press a key to wake from suspend i can't click the mouse to enter my password in order to get in the desktop
[10:23] <varunendra> chrirc, does the 'Tab' key work? Try that instead to get the job done. Maybe the mouse driver isn't resuming properly.
[10:24] <chrirc> if i press tab i can enter password?  thanks...i will try it now
[10:25] <varunendra> chrirc, 'Tab' should just move the focus to the password field (may need to press multiple times). Once in focus, you can type in it.
[10:25] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Can I open that link in a browser, or must it be in prompt?
[10:25] <Ironwave> varunendra:  browser wont open it
[10:26] <varunendra> Ironwave, does the browser open ANY other links?
[10:26] <Ironwave> varunendra:  Sure, was on wiki just now. Let me double check
[10:27] <varunendra> Ironwave, in the terminal, you may try "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.15.1/backports-3.15.1-1.tar.xz" But it seems your connection has frozen now, in which case the terminal method will fail too.
[10:27] <Ironwave> varunendra:  wiki works... Ill double check spelling
[10:28] <varunendra> Ironwave, you can directly right-click this link : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ and select "Open in browser" (If you IRC client provides such option)
[10:29] <Ironwave> Im on a difrent pc, so I can be connected all the time wile I chat. Thus the delay and wrong spelling some times...
[10:32] <chrirc> hi...i tried to press tab key after suspend to enter password but not working...mouse click not working too
[10:34] <Ironwave> varunendra: interisting.. I checked the spelling 3 times. It wont connect to that site. Im gona log into chat via that browsers irc. then I can just click the link. Ill contackt you now as Ironwave2
[10:34] <varunendra> chrirc, 'Tab' key just moves the focus of input. So you may have to press it multiple times. But if the keyboard is frozen too (after awake) or if the screen itself, then ofcourse it won't work.
[10:34] <ironwave2> varunendra:  provide the link again if you please
[10:35] <varunendra> ironwave2, are you trying to open the link in the Ubuntu laptop or the one which you are chatting from?
[10:35] <ironwave2> varunendra: ubunto wireless problem pc
[10:35] <ironwave2> varunendra: yes
[10:35] <chrirc> so what can i try  to fix this?
[10:36] <ironwave2> varunendra: i want to open the link on the problem pc.
[10:36] <varunendra> ironwave2, it is just an archive package, you can download it anywhere, then copy it to the target system. Besides, I have very little hope that the compile bug is fixed, so it may not succeed at all.
[10:36] <funkt> Hi there I have just done a hardware update on Ubuntu 12.04 and when I restarted the screen thinks it is a laptop with a very low resolution and the screen display is locked at 640 x 480 and the screen is a desktop monitor any help would be great?
[10:37] <ironwave2> varunendra: wich release should i take?
[10:37] <varunendra> chrirc, unless we know what is not working (the display, the mouse, or the entire system) it is hard to guess. Usually we just add the problematic driver to a config file so it is removed at suspend, and reattached at resume.
[10:38] <varunendra> ironwave2, the 3.15.1-1
[10:38] <ironwave2> varunendra: 3.16-rc5-1
[10:38] <ironwave2> varunendra: k
[10:39] <MagicSpud> hello does anybody run minecraft on ubuntu?¿
[10:39] <Ironwave> Ironwave2, you can directly right-click this link : http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ and select "Open in browser" (If you IRC client provides such opti
[10:39] <varunendra> chrirc, is it a mouse or a touchpad? A desktop or laptop?
[10:39] <chrirc> destop...using a usb keyboard and mouse
[10:40] <ironwave2> that worked :-)
[10:40] <ironwave2> varunendra: must I save or open with manager?
[10:40] <varunendra> ironwave2, save
[10:40] <funkt> hi there anyone have any xrandr commands?
[10:40] <ironwave2> varunendra: done
[10:41] <funkt> My monitor is locked on 640 x 400
[10:41] <varunendra> ironwave2, when it is downloaded, copy it onto your Desktop > right-click > Extract here
[10:41] <varunendra> chrirc, if it is a USB mouse, does unplug > replug work?
[10:43] <funkt> Hi there dies anyone know of a way I can go back after a hrdware update?
[10:43] <funkt> does*
[10:43] <varunendra> chrirc, and does Ctrl-Alt-F1 work? It'll take you to a text only console. Ctrl-Alt-F7 will bring you back to GUI
[10:43] <ironwave2> varunendra: done
[10:44] <chrirc> i did not try it...i read on the internet that its the open source graphics driver but with nvidia same problem
[10:45] <varunendra> ironwave2, now open a terminal and enter these commands - "cd Desktop/backports-3.15.1-1" ..... "make defconfig-rtlwifi"
[10:46] <Guest69911> hi, I accidentally chmodded everything to 777. Is there a way to revert this?
[10:46] <chrirc> if tab not working after resume i suppose no other key works
[10:46] <varunendra> ironwave2, is the target system (Ubuntu) still connected to internet?
[10:46] <varunendra> chrirc, try the Ctrl-Alt-F1 thing to make sure.
[10:47] <ironwave2> varunendra: yup
[10:47] <varunendra> ironwave2, done those two? Without errors?
[10:47] <ironwave2> varunendra: buzzy
[10:48] <chrirc> ok...i will try it and be back...thanks
[10:48] <Bashing-om> Guest69911: "everything" means '/' and all below ??
[10:48] <ironwave2> varunendra: # configuration written to .config
[10:48] <goeo_> Bashing-om: yes.
[10:48] <goeo_> literally everything
[10:49] <varunendra> ironwave2, I should have done this earlier, but can be done now also - please make sure the headers and build-essential are installed beforehand. That is - "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential"
[10:49] <goeo_> chmod -R 777 /
[10:49] <ironwave2> varunendra: okays, ill do that
[10:50] <goeo_> instead of p I pressed enter accidentally
[10:50] <varunendra> goeo_, a clean install is a good and fast way to fix that :p
[10:50] <Bashing-om> george2: //While one MAY attempt to restore, one will never know for sure - will always be a source of trouble ...I often see the recommendation to bite the bullet and (RE-)install.
[10:50] <high_fiver> goeo_, the only way to fix it
[10:50] <varunendra> goeo_, pressed 'Enter' accidentally, then also provided your sudo password accidentally? :D
[10:51] <goeo_> varunendra, I was root already
[10:52] <varunendra> goeo_, bad call. But like others (and I) mentioned. You can take a super-duper painful way to compare files on an existing installation, and set permissions manually, or just do a reinstall.
[10:52] <ironwave2> varunendra: cc -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer   -c -o conf.o conf.c   Is this an error?
[10:53] <varunendra> ironwave2, an error should be reported with a prefix "Error:....."
[10:53] <goeo_> varunendra, backing up files now.
[10:53] <ironwave2> varunendra:  its done, the headers is done
[10:54] <varunendra> ironwave2, now the critical part, this one may fail - "make" in the same terminal.
[10:56] <chrirc> i tried ctrl alt f1 after suspend but nothing... after a while i noticed that mouse cursor disappears completely too
[10:56] <Ironwave> varunendra:  errors all around, Conection also just went away
[10:58] <Ironwave> varunendra: when I open my networks icon, I dont see My conection. I must disable conections, and enable it. then it works again
[10:58] <varunendra> Ironwave, it (make) has nothing to do with connection. It is a process that takes place in that directory only. But its failure means the bug still exists.
[10:59] <ironwave2> varunendra:  errors all around\
[11:00] <varunendra> Ironwave, so we have no backports option then. The bug (this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1342703) still prevails. :(
[11:00] <ironwave2> varunendra:  Im gona be afk for a wile. Thanks for the help so far. hope to see you again
[11:00] <varunendra> ironwave2, you may try posting a thread at ubuntuforums.org, and hope the best (chili555) picks it up himself.
[11:01] <ironwave2> varunendra:  ok. Thank you for the hard work!\
[11:02] <varunendra> ironwave2, I'm very keen to find a promising fix for these cards/drivers myself :)
[11:02] <ironwave2> varunendra: Ill be sure to hang around
[11:03] <varunendra> ironwave2, I rarely spend time here on IRC these days... kinda too busy. Forums is where I am more regular, at least comparatively. :)
[11:05] <JNixx> test
[11:07] <chrirc> i wonder...why is something like suspend so hard to work on ubuntu while for windows it's so trivial working out of the box?
[11:07] <ironwave2> varunendra:  I discovered and made a account with some forum just yesterday. Linuxquestions.org
[11:07] <Abhijit> i am getting error mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' for ubuntu 14.04 server iso while doing mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso /mnt/
[11:08] <ironwave2> varunendra:  I will seekout ubuntofoums.
[11:09] <Abhijit> the md5 matches
[11:10] <varunendra> chrirc, probably only developers can give a logical and correct answer to that. My guess is that because the vendors keep changing BIOS/hardware all the time, while making sure their standards are compatible with windows.
[11:11] <varunendra> chrirc, by the way, your problem indeed sounds like a graphics card/driver issue.
[11:13] <chrirc> but i tried both the open source and nvidi driver and same probem
[11:16] <Abhijit> i am getting error mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' for ubuntu 14.04 server iso while doing mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso /mnt/
[11:16] <Abhijit> the md5 matches
[11:18] <varunendra> Abhijit, could be a bug, does the man page for mount show iso9660 in "-t" options? Here on my 12.04 it does, as always.
[11:18] <Abhijit> varunendra, was working with so many isos including this, before today.
[11:19] <varunendra> Abhijit, what does this show - "file <your iso>"
[11:20] <Abhijit> ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso: x86 boot sector
[11:20] <OERIAS> I just ran out of toilet paper
[11:20] <Abhijit> i remember someone saying your nick in some channel today morning and then you getting kicked out.
[11:20] <Abhijit> what does this work mean?
[11:20] <Abhijit> word*
[11:21] <Abhijit> varunendra, ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso: x86 boot sector
[11:22] <varunendra> Abhijit, mine here (for 14.04 desktop iso) says : ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64          ' (bootable)
[11:22] <Abhijit> ok. let me redownload iso.
[11:22] <varunendra> Abhijit, try the torrent?
[11:22] <Abhijit> yeah. always torrent only.
[11:26] <Abhijit> varunendra, redownloaded. same output of file.
[11:26] <Abhijit> and error.
[11:27] <varunendra> Abhijit, are you on a desktop GUI now?
[11:27] <Abhijit> varunendra, no. this is in ubuntu 14.04 vps
[11:28] <varunendra> Abhijit, apart from suspecting the ISO itself, no other ideas then. How did you download it so quickly? Loaded the same torrent with the same iso at target location?
[11:29] <Abhijit> varunendra, vps has great speed
[11:29] <Abhijit> downloaded new .torrent file
[11:29] <ripthejacker> Hi guys, need help, I'm not able to resolve .local addresses
[11:29] <varunendra> Abhijit, from where?
[11:30] <ripthejacker> Ubuntu cannot resolve local  host names.
[11:30] <Abhijit> varunendra, ubuntu.com?
[11:31] <varunendra> Abhijit, ..and you also said it already passed MD5sum test. So possibly the source ISO itself is.... at least... *different* :/
[11:32] <Abhijit> this iso is 14.04.1 which do not have md5 list on ubuntu.com the previous one was 14.04 and its md5 matched
[11:32] <Abhijit> varunendra, ^
[11:32] <varunendra> Abhijit, what is the size of the downloaded iso by the way? (ls -lh <iso>)
[11:32] <Abhijit> 573 MB varunendra
[11:33] <ripthejacker> Please help
[11:43] <OERIAS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIh2xe4jnpk
[11:43] <OERIAS> Why you gotta be so rude!
[11:45] <advx_> Hi all, Good Evening, and Have a great weekend
[11:45] <paullus> hi, I have a question.  I recently bought an SD card for my laptop.  I can seem to see or mount the drive. When I type the following command: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog  --it does list an [sdb] device?
[11:47] <Qantourisc> Can I install ubuntu without it trying to install the bootloader automatically ?
[11:47] <OERIAS> Some send me the Ubuntu 7.10 CDs to wipe. I ran out of toilet paper
[11:48] <john_rambo> What command tells ufw to log everything (high) ?
[11:49] <OERIAS> Why gotta be so rude
[11:50] <OERIAS> Don't you know i'm human too
[11:50] <trijntje> Qantourisc: yes, you can disable installing the bootloader
[11:50] <OERIAS> marry that girl
[11:50] <Qantourisc> trijntje: well i'd still like it to dump the /boot somewhere :p
[11:50] <OERIAS> mary that girl we''l be your family
[11:50] <Qantourisc> trijntje: but not on a seperate partition automatically, also, grub install i'd like to do by hand
[11:50] <Qantourisc> trijntje: other installers have wiped my entire disk before ...
[11:51] <trijntje> Qantourisc: I don't understand what you are trying to do, do want to install grub or not?
[11:51] <Qantourisc> trijntje: by hand
[11:51] <Qantourisc> trijntje: I want to install ubunut on 1 partition, and it not touch anything else
[11:52] <Bashing-om> ripthejacker: DNS issue ?  -> cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit <- and pass the resulting URL back here so we can see the contents.
[11:52] <Qantourisc> trijntje: otherwise it might start deleting partionts, resizing, screwing up boot sectors etc
[11:52] <ripthejacker> Bashing-om, fixed it by installing avahi-daemon
[11:52] <trijntje> Qantourisc: it wont do that, but you can disable installing grub in or just after the partitioning screen in the installer
[11:52] <paullus> anyone know how to make ubuntu see an SD flash drive card?
[11:53] <ripthejacker> Bashing-om, actually I'm using lubuntu and I assumed it must be installed by default, but that is not the case it seems.
[11:53] <Qantourisc> trijntje: ok good, disk is still empty, but reinstalling windows and the partitions is such a hassle :/
[11:53] <Bashing-om> ripthejacker: :D
[11:53] <Qantourisc> I'm downloading kubuntu and it says 32bit is recommended ? Are there issues with 46bit ubuntu ?
[11:54] <trijntje> no, but you have to recommend something ;)
[11:54] <Qantourisc> :p
[11:54] <streulma> Ubuntu on a Mac, finally :)
[11:54]  * Qantourisc ist still not sure why on a modern pc you are might want to install 32 bit :p
[11:54] <Qantourisc> i haven't ran 32 bit linux is a decade by now i think :p
[11:55] <Qantourisc> with 1 exception: vm hosts on a small memory budget
[11:55] <ripthejacker> Bashing-om, thanks for replying, though :)
[11:56] <paco> tu
[11:57] <paco> if I backported and installed a newer glib version, would that make serious harm to my system?
[11:58] <izabera> guys i'm trying to install ubuntu in dual boot along with win8 but i'm getting this error from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7931763/
[11:59] <izabera> what do i do?
[12:07] <Bashing-om> izabera: Is the 1st hard drive (sda) a data drive ? // I do not see a partion on the 3nd drive (sdb) for the ubuntu file system - sdb7 a data partition ?
[12:08] <Bashing-om> 3nd/2nd *
[12:09] <izabera> i have only one drive with several partitions
[12:10] <Bashing-om> izabera: OK, " Disk /dev/sda: 4190 MB" is your ubuntu liveUSB, correct ?
[12:11] <izabera> yes correct
[12:13] <Bashing-om> izabera: "sdb7: ,
[12:13] <izabera> sdb7 is where i installed ubuntu
[12:15] <klikokilo> Hi, I just started an EC2 instance with ubuntu 14.04, installed squid (apt-get install squid), squid is running however /etc/init.d doesn't show any squid files nor does service --status-all show any service with the name squid
[12:15] <klikokilo> any ideas what's up with that?
[12:16] <Bashing-om> izabera: "sdb7: , Operating System:  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS" indicates that I jumped the conclusion from "/dev/sdb7     821,850,112   936,588,393   114,738,282 Data partition (Linux)" // That what is required here is to (re-)install the EFI bootleader ?
[12:16] <klikokilo> hmm after restarting server it's not running either
[12:17] <ed0n0n> hi there! I have an issue with a Sony Vaio laptop. It has a broken built-in keyboard, wich keeps some key pressed all the time and is causing a big problem. BIOS has no options for disabling, my only option is disabling it from grub, but i cant find the right code for doing so... can you help please?
[12:18] <izabera> Bashing-om: i installed ubuntu in sdb7 but had a problem with secure boot: whenever i reboot, my computer loads windows. now i've disabled that secure boot option and i'm running boot-repair from that live usb, but it still doesn't work and i don't know why
[12:21] <smaboshe> Hello!
[12:22] <smaboshe> I'm having trouble running "sudo do-release-upgrade". Is the "en_ZM" locale not supported for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? - https://gist.github.com/smaboshe/d51b102d8a678e0b98e2
[12:34] <Bashing-om> izabera: Never encountered anything like what os at the end of boot-repair report ... // "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" Did you encrypt this partition ? or maybe you chose LVM when installing ? I am struggeling here to understand.
[12:34] <Bashing-om> os/is*
[12:36] <izabera> yes, if i recall correctly i encrypted sdb7
[12:36] <izabera> is it a problem?
[12:38] <izabera> would it work correctly if i format that partition and install it again without encryption? i have no important data there
[12:42] <klikokilo> anyone on the service thing? there's a squid3.conf under /etc/init but service command keeps insisting there's no such service whether run from sudo -i, sudo su -, or from user with sudo service
[12:42] <Bashing-om> izabera: (re-)install may be one option .. I do not know how UEFI/Windows8/encryption work together. Let's await others to look and see what they think in this situation .. wiser heads here may prevail.
[12:42] <izabera> Bashing-om: thank you :)
[12:43] <Bashing-om> izabera: I will be intersested to see/learn ..
[12:59] <jarek> hi
[12:59] <svetlana> yup hi
[13:00] <Guest33902> blabla
[13:00] <svetlana> it works
[13:00] <nrdb> I just install 14.04.1 and I am trying to configure it to run some VMs ... when I connect to it via 'Virtual Machine Manager' and try to add a VM I get the error message "Error: No hypervisor options where found for this connection"  the kvm module is running on the host... can anyone help?
[13:02] <svetlana> nrdb, you have to enable kvm (virtualisation support) in bios on the server
[13:04] <nikuzza> ciao
[13:05] <Molly22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/USlwIc
[13:05] <svetlana> nope
[13:05] <svetlana> use reddit instead
[13:13] <nrdb> svetlana, I will reboot and look
[13:13] <svetlana> ok
[13:14] <ed0n0n> IU just disconnected the built in laptop keyboard and problem solved, thanks for your help
[13:15] <nikuzza> ciao
[13:17] <clin> Hi, How can I share files between two computers running ubuntu in my room.
[13:18] <clin> I have access to Internet on both machines, have lan wire too.
[13:20] <svetlana> clin: you probably want to use samba
[13:20] <nrdb> svetlana, I was unable to find any control on ether way
[13:20] <svetlana> no such switch in bios?
[13:22] <clin> svetlana: isn't samba needed when we want to share files from linux to windows? the two boxes are running ubuntu
[13:22] <bekks> clin: Between two linux computer, you may use NFS.
[13:22] <bekks> !nfs
[13:22] <svetlana>  Samba is an implementation of the SMB/CIFS protocol for Unix systems,
[13:22] <svetlana>  providing support for cross-platform file and printer sharing with
[13:22] <svetlana>  Microsoft Windows, OS X, and other Unix systems.
[13:22] <svetlana> the last 3 words are important
[13:22] <subz3r0> !ftp
[13:23] <svetlana> no, ftp is a pain to write to :)
[13:23] <subz3r0> not really :)
[13:23] <bekks> FTP deserves to be extincted with fire.
[13:23] <Bashing-om> clin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two Lubuntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[13:24] <subz3r0> not really :)
[13:24] <subz3r0> proftpd isnt that bad
[13:24] <nrdb> svetlana, the /dev/kvm is owned by the kvm user
[13:25] <clin> svetlana: totally get your point. but i think using samba'd be overkill.
[13:26] <bong1> clin: use a usb stick.
[13:27] <clin> Bashing-om: Thanks for the link :) that seems really promising.
[13:27] <Bashing-om> clin: Works great !  .. best 1 for 'buntu 2 'buntu .
[13:29] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/Wk1YMa2Q
[13:29] <samthewildone> Having a problem compiling that application, not sure where to get the Qt5Widgets though
[13:30] <LS1> hi all, I keep having issues with PPTP VPN (VPN service not running error) and also OpenVPN (always times out). Any suggestions?
[13:31] <subz3r0> pptp should not be used anymore.
[13:32] <LS1> subz3r0, yeah...that's mainly why I switched to OpenVPN and trying Password with TLS
[13:32] <LS1> subz3r0, can you think of any reason why my connections always timeout and never actually connect?
[13:32] <subz3r0> using passwords is also not a good idea. use a pki instead
[13:33] <subz3r0> LS1: LAN? WAN? firewalls?
[13:33] <LS1> passwords with certificates (TLS) is the only think my provider supports I believe :(
[13:33] <LS1> subz3r0, standard wifi at a home...no firewall...works just fine in Windows using same config
[13:37] <subz3r0> LS1: check this site: http://wiki.openvpn.eu/index.php/Hauptseite
[13:37] <subz3r0> dont find the english version atm
[13:37] <subz3r0> but just check the examples
[13:37] <Qantourisc> Witch installer is "best" the cli or the gui ?
[13:38] <svetlana> whichever you feel more comfortable with
[13:38] <subz3r0> depends on your taste
[13:38] <svetlana> it is subjective after all
[13:38] <subz3r0> i prefer cli
[13:39] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: let me rephrase the question: are it differnt menus/wizars/choices ?
[13:39] <jim2> hello,i would like to set iptables into the stealth mode...is there any command that allows me to implement it ?
[13:39] <Qantourisc> jim2: "stealth mode" ?
[13:40] <jim2> yes
[13:40] <subz3r0> stealth mode?
[13:40] <Qantourisc> i've used quite a bit of iptables, never heared of stealth mode
[13:40] <Qantourisc> what is it suppost to do ?
[13:40] <jim2> well
[13:40] <jim2> it masquaredes your ports
[13:40] <jim2> so that no one can see if you have any open port via port scan nmpa etc
[13:40] <jim2> nmap*
[13:41] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: not really. you can do the same. but i dont like the gui installer of 14.04. im missing a lot of functions. so i prerfer the net installer
[13:41] <subz3r0> lol
[13:42] <Qantourisc> jim2: set input policy to drop, and allow all estabilished or related connections
[13:42] <subz3r0> jim2: that does not work. an educated nmap user will even find that out
[13:42] <Qantourisc> jim2: wait you still wanted to be able to use the ports ?
[13:43] <subz3r0> but what youre searching for is also called "black hole"
[13:43] <jim2> yes
[13:43] <subz3r0> aka DROP
[13:43] <jim2> i basically want them invisible on the net
[13:43] <Qantourisc> jim2: well no way to both allow and not allow something :)
[13:43] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: wrong
[13:43] <jim2> well servers use that optin ...
[13:43] <Qantourisc> the closest thing you have is port-nocking
[13:43] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: ?
[13:43] <SirLagz> or whitelists if you know where you'll be coming from
[13:43] <LS1> subz3r0, sorry, got d/c ... still there?
[13:44] <jim2> i have stted rules
[13:44] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: can you give an example ?
[13:44] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: its wrong. you can just allow different ip ranges and DROP the rest
[13:44] <jim2> escpecially 80 and 443 port
[13:44] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: then you can still nmap from those ip's :)
[13:44] <subz3r0> jim2: like i told you. youre ports wont be "invisible"
[13:45] <subz3r0> since when a computer isnt online... the router before will give a ping reply back
[13:45] <jim2> unix.like systems have that optin
[13:45] <jim2> option*
[13:45] <subz3r0> jim2: i guess you dont understand the theory
[13:45] <jim2> what i do not understand particullarly?
[13:45] <subz3r0> you cannot hide your PC
[13:46] <Qantourisc> hmmm kubuntu or netinstall + remove unity add kde ?
[13:46] <jim2> yes
[13:46] <jim2> i hate unity
[13:46] <jim2> ...
[13:46] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: netinstall does not need to remove anything. since you can choose what you want to install
[13:47] <subz3r0> DE, no DE. which DE etc..
[13:47] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: well yes, but doesn't doe Kubunto do more work to make it "work/look" better then the default ubuntu ?
[13:48] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: depends on your taste. I dont like unity and the newer version of gnome anymore.
[13:48] <SirLagz> Qantourisc: nothing installing the kubuntu-desktop meta-package won't fix
[13:48] <Qantourisc> Not sure, since I persaonlly never use distros like ubuntu :)
[13:48] <Qantourisc> so ubunut net-install it is :p
[13:48] <Qantourisc> ow
[13:48] <Qantourisc> but doesnt that mean uninstall network-manager ?
[13:48] <Qantourisc> or does kde use that as backend these days ?
[13:48] <Qantourisc> (me normally uses arch/gentoo + xmonad :p)
[13:49] <SirLagz> Qantourisc: no idea. I'm normally on Debian :P
[13:49] <jim2> i love gnome
[13:49] <SirLagz> my xubuntu laptops still use networkmanager IIRC
[13:49] <Qantourisc> SirLagz: yea, and i had to remove it to get wireless and vpn to work without crap :p
[13:50] <SirLagz> Qantourisc: yep. never been a fan of networkmanager tbh
[13:50] <Qantourisc> i'm not saying it's bad, but for some usescases atm it just plain doesn't work
[13:51]  * Qantourisc download netinstall
[13:51] <Qantourisc> nothing you can't fix i suppose
[13:53] <Qantourisc> "dowload THE networkinstaller for 14.04" or "download network installer for 12.04"
[13:53] <Qantourisc> :p
[13:53] <Qantourisc> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[13:53] <Qantourisc> well i'm not sure i want "a" network installer,i want THE installer :p
[13:54] <subz3r0> jim2: http://pastebin.com/SQpxx79A
[13:54] <subz3r0> iptables example...
[13:54] <jim2> well subz3ro i managed to get that in windows vista..
[13:54] <Qantourisc> ow netboot installer
[13:54] <Qantourisc> not net-download-installer like debian :p
[13:55] <koell> What happened with the package "fuse-utils"? I can't find it anymore in the package sources. Lubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:55] <subz3r0> fuse-emulator-utils
[13:55] <subz3r0> this one?
[13:55] <koell> idk xD
[13:56] <subz3r0> dito :D
[13:56] <koell> is there no  clicki-way to mount a nfs-share in pcmanfm?
[13:57] <Qantourisc> are the ubunut cd's usb-stick compatible ?
[13:57] <Qantourisc> nvm internet :)
[13:57] <subz3r0> Qantourisc: they are hybrid isos
[13:57] <subz3r0> so yes
[13:57] <subz3r0> you can dd em
[13:57] <Qantourisc> nice
[13:57] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: i use cat :)
[13:58] <subz3r0> dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M
[13:58] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: cat /iso > /dev ?
[13:58] <subz3r0> no idea if that works
[13:58] <subz3r0> try it and let us know
[13:58] <Qantourisc> subz3r0: it does :)
[13:58] <Bashing-om> Qantourisc: Nother thought for an install : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD , and build what you want.
[13:59] <Qantourisc> ow THERE is the dl i wanted :p
[14:07] <Travessuss> hi everyone
[14:07] <yz3pD> !ask
[14:09] <Qantourisc> Ok the partition tools is going totoally bazoonkas on me
[14:10] <Qantourisc> Is there a way to entirely skip the partition tool, and just indicate / mount them manually ?
[14:11] <hylian> is the black box window manager dead (not being developed), the wiki hasn't been updated in 8 years..??
[14:12] <Qantourisc> hylian: probably still works as perfect as 8 years ago anyway :p
[14:12] <saleem> hi, which of the trusty kernel provide aufs support ? can somebody please point it out to me?
[14:13] <hylian> Qantourisc: it didn't work all that well 8 years ago. ;)
[14:13] <Qantourisc> ow ok :)
[14:14] <Qantourisc> what gpt editors are available during cli installer ?
[14:14] <hylian> Qantourisc: it's lightweight, and semi flexible, but openbox beats it hands down. I'd love to see blackbox give openbox a run for there money.
[14:17] <Qantourisc> OMG
[14:17] <Qantourisc> the partioning tool is reading out the old removed GPT table !!!
[14:19] <hylian> so no one knows if blackbox is no longer developed? I couldn't find any official document saying that. my educated guess is yes, but I would love an official yes...
[14:20] <kostkon> hylian, their irc is here http://tiny.cc/backbox-irc
[14:22] <Daekdroom> kostkon, I think you're mistaking Blackbox (the windowmanager) for something else.
[14:23] <kostkon> Daekdroom, yeah, i guess it's 50/50, either the wm or that ubuntu based distro
[14:23] <Daekdroom> kostkon, ...? They're not even spelled the same way.
[14:23] <kostkon> Daekdroom, lol. you are right
[14:23] <Daekdroom> Blackbox's last release was 2005, anyway. That's way too long for it to be under development.
[14:24] <Daekdroom> Enlightenment went so many years without a new release, but there was actual news about its development, which does not seem to be the case with Blackbox.
[14:25] <hylian> Daekdroom: I would agree, hence my "educated guess" that it is not under development. I was just hopeing for some official word to that affect. well. I will leave it at that.
[14:26] <iamwhoiam> blackbox, acoording to wikipedia, is no longer under development
[14:26] <decci> Hi
[14:26] <hylian> hello decci
[14:26] <iamwhoiam> according*
[14:26] <decci> I want to create a DEB package, to make a list of software install-able via `apt-get install my-package`.   It would include: - Sone dependencies like build-essential - NVM (https://github.com/creationix/nvm) - Node.js installed via NVM (the v0.11.13) - PM2 (https://github.com/Unitech/pm2)
[14:26] <hylian> iamwhoiam: ohh, thanks! I didn't see that. that's the nail in the coffin I was looking for.
[14:26] <decci> hylian: Any idea what tool and steps or doc can help me achieve this
[14:27] <hylian> decci: achieve what?
[14:27] <decci> hylian: creating a DEB package(read above)
[14:27] <hylian> decci: i see. I am confused as to what you are trying to accomplish exactly...
[14:28] <iamwhoiam> hylian: np.
[14:28] <decci> hylian: If I say apt-get install mypackage it should get Sone dependencies like build-essential - NVM (https://github.com/creationix/nvm) - Node.js installed via NVM (the v0.11.13) - PM2 (https://github.com/Unitech/pm2) installed
[14:28] <jim2> i found out
[14:28] <jim2> YEAH
[14:28] <jim2> WOHOO
[14:28] <jim2> i stealthed my ports
[14:28] <jim2> yes
[14:28] <subz3r0> found what?
[14:28] <decci> hylian: Heard about grunt
[14:28] <hylian> decci: so what you want is the build dependencies for package X?
[14:29] <subz3r0> ahh, yes... so let us know, too
[14:29] <decci> hylian: https://www.odesk.com/leaving-odesk?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npmjs.org%2Fpackage%2Fgrunt-debian-package
[14:29] <jim2> i used a port scanner
[14:29] <jim2> and it only found port 80 which i set open
[14:29] <decci> hylian: sorry this is the right one https://www.npmjs.org/package/grunt-debian-package
[14:29] <jim2> your link helped me seubz
[14:29] <subz3r0> link?
[14:29] <subz3r0> the pastebin?
[14:29] <jim2> yees
[14:29] <Qantourisc> jim2: ... so not stealthed ?
[14:30] <decci> hylian: thinking that if I can do it myself
[14:30] <subz3r0> jim2: i wrote that example in iptables...
[14:30] <Qantourisc> jim2: just bloked all other ports that happend to be listing ?
[14:30] <jim2> i guess they are stealthed
[14:30] <decci> hylian: u there?
[14:31] <subz3r0> jim2: okay, now use different scan techniquies. -sSV -sAV etc..
[14:31] <subz3r0> techniques
[14:31] <jim2> ok
[14:31] <hylian> decci: ok  i think i am getting it now. you want to make a deb using grunt, and want to either make sure all the dependencies have been met or you want to include them so they will be?
[14:31] <decci> hylian: Yes I want build dependencies for Package X
[14:31] <subz3r0> the example that i made for you is a basic statefull firewall
[14:31] <decci> hylian: Yes
[14:31] <jim2> well
[14:31] <jim2> i searched the web too
[14:32] <subz3r0> jim2: so show us the iptables rules to use "stealth" mode.
[14:32] <subz3r0> we are curious
[14:32] <hylian> decci: sorry, never made deb's before. i wouldn't know where to begin. atleast i Understand it... let me do a little research.. maybe i'll get lucky.
[14:33] <jim2> i set
[14:33] <decci> hylian: ok great
[14:33] <jim2> a lot of ports to deny
[14:33] <jim2> they were on reject i dunno
[14:33] <subz3r0> show us the rules...
[14:34] <jim2> i just typed the number of the port and deny
[14:34] <jim2> nothing else
[14:35] <jim2> but apparently nmap didnt found them closed or open
[14:37] <loulan> hi.
[14:37] <hylian> decci: i need to take my rat terrier out for a walk to relieve his bodily functions. I think the short answer would be a) if you programmed this software, what libraries did you use to make it? b) if you didn't, does the creator(s) have a list of libs they used? Those should be the bulk of any needed dependencies.
[14:38] <loulan> I'm trying to upgrade from quantal, because it's not supported anymore and I can't fetch packages anymore. But to do a do-release-upgrade, I need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, and that fails because quantal isn't supported anymore.
[14:38] <loulan> it can't fetch the packages
[14:38] <loulan> halp
[14:38] <hylian> gotta go guys, rat terrier error number 2 in biomass control valve 8. :)
[14:39] <xangua> loulan: loulan you want to upgrade from quantal to raring and then to saucy and finaly trusty? A clean install would be faster
[14:40] <loulan> xangua: yeah but it's on a server at work that isn't mine with lots of stuff on it
[14:40] <loulan> I can't really do that, I'd like to try the upgrades first
[14:40] <loulan> even if it's a bit complicated
[14:40] <loulan> especially since I don't have physical access to the machine
[14:42] <xangua> !eol | loulan either upgrade or clean install backups are always good idea
[14:50] <Qantourisc> Can I get a usefull output from grub-installer other the "failed" ?
[14:51] <Qantourisc> it's tryint to install it on the USB stick oO
[14:53] <Qantourisc> Can I jank the usb stick from the minmalinstaation ?
[14:56] <fridaynext> anyone know a good tutorial for setting up an NFS share on 14.04 to a 10.9 OSX client?
[15:03] <bencc> in the .profile file, how can I try to execute a script only if it exists without failing if it's missing?
[15:03] <bencc> I currently have ". bin/activate"
[15:03] <golfero> iv installed libre office from torrent, now how i can install it in my computer?
[15:03] <golfero> i mean downloaded from torrent
[15:03] <subz3r0> if else and -e
[15:03] <manish> bencc: i think " -f test " is what you're looking for here
[15:04] <bencc> manish: how do I use it?
[15:04] <Elizabeth22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1qDj42x
[15:05] <golfero> so how do i install libre office in my ubuntu
[15:05] <golfero> help anyone?
[15:05] <subz3r0> golfero: you dont have to download it
[15:06] <golfero> in downloaded it from torrent
[15:06] <golfero> now how i can install it.. i see lots of files in a folder called debian
[15:06] <manish> bencc: if [ -f /path/to/file ]; # this returns true if that file exists # check 'man bash'
[15:06] <subz3r0> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[15:06] <xangua> golfero: libreoffice is already in ubuntu
[15:06] <golfero> xangua,  installed ubuntu withouut libre office
[15:06] <subz3r0> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[15:06] <bencc> manish: thanks
[15:07] <golfero> subz3r0,  ok hold on let me put that command
[15:08] <abaday> is there a could channel to ask about hardware and building computers?
[15:08] <abaday> by could i mean good
[15:09] <golfero> subz3r0,  i think its downloading libreoffice
[15:09] <golfero> but iv libreoffice in my computer
[15:09] <golfero> damn
[15:09] <decci> We have 1 linux server with 80GB HDD and 2 GB RAM, we have cpanel/whm installed on it. Is it possible to configure exim for sending 50,000 mails per hour speed.
[15:09] <Qantourisc> how do i go from "recovery" (user-menu for doing crap that can't posibly fix my problem) to the actual command-line mode (bash/sh) to fix it
[15:10] <Qantourisc> nvm "root" :p
[15:10] <Qantourisc> was hidden in the rest
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> decci  50.000 mails per hour? that's a lot!
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> i hope they are interesting and useful
[15:13] <decci> MonkeyDust: Yes
[15:13] <decci> MonkeyDust: Is it possible?
[15:13] <Qantourisc> MonkeyDust: sending mails at 1/5 of the mainline frequency :D
[15:14] <Qantourisc> giving you 72ms to proccess each mail :)
[15:14] <fridayne_> i'm trying to connect to my NFS share from OSX, but I keep getting the message 'There was a problem connecting to the server'
[15:14] <fridayne_> Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
[15:14] <fridayne_> I did a port scan, and it appears 2049 is open for 'nfsd'
[15:15] <Qantourisc> fridayne_: try mounting using cli, it might actually produce an error message that is helpfull
[15:15] <Qantourisc> or check logs
[15:15] <lidentree> Hi.  I have an ancient laptop that I want to use as an ltsp client off a Ubuntu server.  It does not have a boot off of NIC option and it does not have a working CD drive.  I was wondering if I could get ubuntu (or linux) to boot "just enough" to load the network driver for the card and then seek out the boot through the network.  I would need it to be booting off the hard drive for tis.
[15:15] <fridayne_> Qantourisc: now I get 'mount_nfs: could not parse file system specification'
[15:16] <Qantourisc> https://superuser.com/questions/414937/mount-nfs-on-a-mac-could-not-parse-file-system-specification
[15:16] <fridayne_> yeah, just saw that
[15:16] <Qantourisc> :p
[15:16] <fridayne_> and when i add the colon - "mount_nfs: can't mount /media/raid/iPhoto from 192.168.0.100 onto /Volumes/iPhoto: Operation not permitted"
[15:16] <fridayne_> i wish it were more descriptive than that.
[15:17] <Qantourisc> fridayne_: can you mount it on the server ?
[15:17] <fridayne_> Qantourisc: I think I already did... how do I check that?
[15:19] <matty_r> I'm trying to figure out why my Wifi drops out every hour and asks for the password again.. Its a Broadcom BCM4313.
[15:20] <Qantourisc> fridayne_: just ntfs mount it on the server ?
[15:20] <Qantourisc> this way you "verify" your ntfsexport is atleady somewhat correct
[15:20] <hoechts> hi, I have a raid5 and one of my disks failed. I removed it but now the raid cant be assembled anymore because he says "assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array". I checked in gparted if the disks are available and they are. Any hints?
[15:21] <Qantourisc> I fergot to mount /boot
[15:21] <Qantourisc> now i need to rerun dpkg-configure
[15:21] <Qantourisc> I have however no clue wich one creates a new gfxbacklist and an initram
[15:22] <fridayne_> well, when i run 'df', none of the mounts show up
[15:22] <fridayne_> not sure if they would be in there...
[15:23] <Qantourisc> found blacklist now initramfs
[15:23] <Qantourisc> fridayne_: sure they would be
[15:23] <Qantourisc> if it's mounted it's there
[15:23] <Qantourisc> (unless messing with lazt unmounts)
[15:31] <cinmay> Hi. I have the weirdest network error. My wifi and router stopped working and I got a replacement. My computer came online again without any problems but my kids computer won't connect. I tried various debugging, different cables etc but it just could not get a ip address. Then I set a static IP and The weirdest thing happened. I can connect between my computers just fine. But from my kids computer I can not ping the gateway. I have seen some crazy networki
[15:31] <cinmay> ng issues in my time but this is the strangest thing ever. I'm all out of ideas.
[15:31] <john2x> I'm trying to setup NFS on my local server, but I'm having some issues. Found this answer on SO http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23037893/permission-denied-with-mounting-nfs-with-webmin-mac-osx-ubuntu-setup. So to mount an NFS dir, the user id on my client (OS X) has to match the user id of the server?
[15:33] <matty_r> Whats a command to get some verbose information about my wifi adapter?
[15:34] <subz3r0> iwconfig
[15:34] <subz3r0> dmesg
[15:34] <subz3r0> lsusb
[15:34] <subz3r0> lspic
[15:34] <subz3r0> lspci
[15:40] <GroundControl> hello
[15:41] <MangledBlue> hello
[15:41] <GroundControl> yesterday I had an update about the new skype...but it doesn't start
[15:41] <GroundControl> I tried to delete the folder .skype...but nothing help
[15:41] <MangledBlue> sorry - I'm a noob - just getting started w/ ubuntu
[15:42] <MangledBlue> just found this place
[15:42] <GroundControl> thanks the same Mangle
[15:42] <GroundControl> :)
[15:42] <MangledBlue> been going over some tutorials
[15:42] <GroundControl> :)
[15:42] <MangledBlue> what cmd are you using to delete?
[15:43] <GroundControl> I did it in graphical mode
[15:43] <GroundControl> I mean I didn't use the terminal
[15:44] <MangledBlue> oh - thats what I am trying to learn - the term
[15:44] <MangledBlue> I think in the term it's     rm -i filenaem
[15:44] <GroundControl> what do you want to learn about the use of the terminal?
[15:44] <MangledBlue> everything
[15:45] <MangledBlue> I need to learn it because I'm into crypto-currency
[15:45] <MangledBlue> long story
[15:46] <GroundControl> I use this cmd " rm -rf path of the file
[15:46] <GroundControl> without "
[15:46] <MangledBlue> for me to setup a MasterNode for DarkCoin - I need to use term
[15:47] <GroundControl> I see
[15:47] <MangledBlue> what does the -rf do?
[15:48] <safridzal> recursive force i think
[15:48] <MangledBlue> I found this: rm filename --- removes a file. It is wise to use the option rm -i, which will ask you for confirmation before actually deleting anything.
[15:48] <MangledBlue> I remember seeing something like that
[15:48] <kendrick> what daemons does ubuntu server have on it?
[15:49] <GroundControl> you can find many things opening your terminal and writing man rm
[15:50] <MangledBlue> try this: rmdir    Remove folder(s)   so:   rm -i filename
[15:50] <MangledBlue> oops
[15:51] <MangledBlue> rmdir -i filename
[15:51] <GroundControl> I see
[15:51] <GroundControl> thanks for your advices
[15:51] <kendrick> how do I get openssh server, lamp server, and samba server?
[15:51] <MangledBlue> do what I can - but - still a noob - lol
[15:51] <GroundControl> eheh
[15:52] <Geo> kendrick: 'apt-cache search bla' for those terms is a good way to start
[15:52] <potato_farmer> kendrick, your best bet is to google how to install each one, there are tons of tutorials online
[15:52] <hoechts> can someone please help me with my degraded raid5? ;(
[15:52] <MangledBlue> type ssh into the terminal and see what happens
[15:52] <Geo> you'll get a lot of repsonses, but you can see what your options are
[15:52] <Vibrance> Ubuntu 14.04: Trying to use sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, but nano reports: "[ Read 1933 lines (Warning: No write permission)" Any idea why?
[15:52] <ubuntu-studio> exit
[15:52] <Geo> you can use apt-get install bla   to then install what you want
[15:53] <GroundControl> vibrance maybe you don't have the permission to read that file
[15:54] <GroundControl> folks I habve to leave
[15:54] <GroundControl> thanks everybody
[15:54] <GroundControl> bye mangle
[15:55] <Vibrance> GroundControl: Wouldn't sudo bypass that?
[15:55] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, what are the permissions of the file? Does root have access to write to it?
[15:55] <Vibrance> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70051 Jul 27 14:39 php.ini
[15:56] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, Is your root filesystem mounted read/write?
[16:00] <TJ-> Vibrance: Probably because nano is trying to create a backup-file ("/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini~"); what are the permissions on the directory "ls -ld /etc/php5/apache2" ?
[16:01]  * guest-orVTj7 hops
[16:01] <apes> htop is showing my cpus spending a lot of time in kernel threads, but none of the kernel threads are reporting any significant cpu usage. Anyone have a thought as to what may be going on?
[16:02] <guest-orVTj7> hahahaa
[16:03] <Vibrance> Checking the above now
[16:03] <Abhijit> hi. i copy pasted .ssh from fedora to ubuntu. and now it gives public key denied error? how come?
[16:03] <Abhijit> help
[16:03] <potato_farmer> Abhijit, did you overwrite an existing key?
[16:04] <maddawg2> cuz the public key doesnt match Abhijit
[16:04] <Abhijit> potato_farmer, no. i backed it up first.
[16:04] <Abhijit> potato_farmer, mv .ssh to sshbk
[16:04] <maddawg2> why did you copy over the .ssh?
[16:04] <Abhijit> potato_farmer, then i cp pen drive .ssh to /home/username/
[16:04] <Abhijit> maddawg2, i want to acces that vps from another laptop?
[16:04] <Vibrance> TJ-: ls -ld on /etc/php5/apache2: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 27 17:07 .
[16:04] <potato_farmer> maddawg2 asked a great question, why did you copy it over?
[16:05] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, Is your root filesystem mounted read/write?
[16:05] <maddawg2> you can access it from any computer
[16:05] <Abhijit> potato_farmer, ok. how do i access my vps from another laptop? that vps has my ssh key added to authorized keys from first laptop.
[16:05] <maddawg2> or SHOULD be able to
[16:05] <john0312> @Abhijit: check if the owner of .ssh is yourself, if it's not, chown -R it.
[16:05] <Abhijit> maddawg2, potato_farmer its key based login only. no password
[16:05] <potato_farmer> Abhijit, you'll need to generate new keys, and copy the public to the vps
[16:06] <maddawg2> ok breakfast time
[16:06] <Vibrance> potato_farmer: Unsure to be honest, how can I check?
[16:07] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, type: mount
[16:07] <Abhijit> potato_farmer, so if i have ten work computers, i have to maintain 10 ssh keys?
[16:07] <potato_farmer> What are the results for the / filesystem
[16:08] <potato_farmer> You don't have to maintain anything Abhijit. You generate a key pair for each machine and copy the public to the authorize file on the system into which you intend to log in.
[16:08] <Vibrance> -  /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=0)
[16:09] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, does this command work? touch /etc/php5/apache2/testfile.txt
[16:10] <TJ-> Vibrance: Now check in the kernel's table: "grep xvda1 /proc/mounts"
[16:11] <Vibrance> potato_farmer: The command worked and the file now exists in that directory
[16:11] <Vibrance> TJ-: Result of that command: /dev/xvda1 / ext3 rw,noatime,nobarrier,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
[16:11] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, is anyone else editing the file already? Another user, or is it open in another terminal?
[16:12] <Vibrance> Definitely not, I created the server from a saved image about 10 minutes ago
[16:12] <Vibrance> No one else would know the IP or even have the private key
[16:12] <potato_farmer> does this show anything: getfacl php.ini ?
[16:13] <matty_r> I was messing around with my wifi trying to get it to work properly and then suddenly, all of my networks are gone
[16:14] <matty_r> the router restart for whatever reason...
[16:14] <matty_r> stupid coincidence
[16:14] <Vibrance> potato_farmer: The output of getfacl php.ini:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7934563/
[16:15] <Mirza> Is Ubuntu 14 will load in to Mac Pro as operating system and detect all hardware and driver
[16:16] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, try to more tests. 1) What are the permissions for /root, and 2) can you open the file in another editor? Like vi?
[16:17] <Vibrance> Permissions for /root: drwx------ 4 root root 4096 Jul 27 16:43
[16:17] <Vibrance> Opened in vi: ""/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini" [readonly] "
[16:18] <Mirza> Any one please tell me if Ubuntu 14 will work in Mac Pro and detect all drivers
[16:19] <potato_farmer> How about lsattr php.ini
[16:19] <Vibrance> ----i----------- php.ini
[16:19] <potato_farmer> Mirza, you can just install VirtualBox and install Ubuntu in it. Best of both worlds. But I don't know about the drivers question.
[16:20] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, try: chattr -i php.ini
[16:21] <ses1984> i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i7
[16:21] <potato_farmer> Then try to edit it again.
[16:21] <Vibrance> Worked!
[16:21] <Vibrance> What exactly did that do?
[16:22] <potato_farmer> Vibrance, not sure why your file was set to immutable (cannot be modified)
[16:22] <TJ-> Vibrance: immutable flag was set, somehow. Have you been running any non-maintainer scripts in configuring PHP ?
[16:22] <potato_farmer> Is another process supposed to control php settings? Really strange.
[16:23] <Vibrance> I've been running through an absolute ton of security documentation for servers so maybe something along the way locked it down
[16:24] <potato_farmer> Are you deploying openstack?
[16:26] <Vibrance> Nope
[16:26] <Vibrance> Thanks for the help though, that's awesome
[16:26] <potato_farmer> yw
[16:30] <quantum_entangle> hey anybody here willing to help with a problem?
[16:32] <Qantourisc> howmuch room does /boot need ?
[16:33] <quantum_entangle> Everytime I try to install the Nvidia binary driver trough the Software & Updates it stalls and doesn't seem to be downloading anything past the 1/5th point on the progress bar
[16:34] <quantum_entangle> does anybody know if it's possible to run Software & Updates trough the terminal?
[16:34] <TJ-> Qantourisc: I usually allow it 512MB, and I'm busy testing kernels
[16:34] <Qantourisc> TJ-: i mean for not-testing kernels :) (du -ch /boot)
[16:35] <Qantourisc> TJ-: allocated 64MB
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> quantum_entangle  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:35] <Qantourisc> seems not to be enough :p
[16:35] <TJ-> Qantourisc: make it 512MB and you won't run into problems as older kernels build up in there
[16:35] <Qantourisc> TJ-: kinda hard to move stuff around now :p
[16:36] <Qantourisc> TJ-: does ubuntu care if /boot is a seperate partition ?
[16:36] <Qantourisc> otherwise i'll just throw them inthere
[16:36] <matty_r> So i've got a Broadcom BCM4314 running on the non-proprietary drivers and it connects fine but after an hour *BAM* connection drops and I have to re-enter my password. Heres a link to the output of the script that shows troubleshooting information. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7934703/
[16:36] <TJ-> Qantourisc: no, it can be part of the root file-system
[16:37] <Qantourisc> TJ-: thanks, i'll have to move it then :p
[16:39] <quantum_entangle> Hey, is synaptic still useable on the new ubuntu interface?
[16:39] <quantum_entangle> apt-get synaptic or something like that?
[16:40] <xangua>  !info synaptic | quantum_entangle
[16:41] <Vampire-Bill> question for other amd built in video users 14.04, I am running 4 gigs ram 1 to video 3 to system will adding another 4 gigs to system make a difference or upgrade to a ssd
[16:42] <quantum_entangle> @xangua : thanks
[16:42] <matty_r> Vampire-Bill; depends on what you're doing with the machine. SSD is always great through
[16:42] <potato_farmer> Vampire-Bill, if your system swaps, add more ram, if not, get ssd, best: both
[16:43] <Vampire-Bill> matty_r: and potato_farmer: thank you
[16:43] <MagicSpud> hey why the empty recent documents is gone from the recent documents tab?
[16:44] <matty_r> Hey potato-farmer .. is MagicSpud one of yours?
[16:44] <potato_farmer> matty_r, nope
[16:44] <potato_farmer> just this one
[16:45] <matty_r> I meant one of the potatos you farmed
[16:45] <matty_r> lol
[16:45] <MagicSpud> lol
[16:46] <matty_r> tough crowd huh
[16:47] <MagicSpud> hey this spud is magic I dont need a farmer
[16:47] <potato_farmer> :)
[16:47] <matty_r> good attitude
[16:48] <potato_farmer> one disadvantage of this handle is that I seem to always crave fries
[16:48] <matty_r> damn.. now I do to
[16:48] <MagicSpud> nor monsanto's experiments of course
[16:49] <MagicSpud> hey does anybody know something about the recent documents issue
[16:49] <MagicSpud> ?
[16:49] <MagicSpud> I used to have an option to clear them
[16:49] <MagicSpud> but it is gone
[16:50] <matty_r> Nah, sorry mate
[16:50] <hoechts> Hi, i still need help with my raid5. I have probably crashed it, but maybe someone can help me to reassemble it?
[16:50] <ses1984> i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i7
[16:51] <wheatthin> so where to start to hunt for a reason why this server box would freeze?
[16:52] <BarnabasDK> ses1984, you are using an amd64 install on your i7 right?
[16:52] <matty_r> hoechts: Put up your details of your problem, someone might be able to help.
[16:52] <quantum_entangle> @wheatthin do you log it's activities?
[16:53] <wheatthin> quantum_entangle, I'm sure somewhere.. I dunno what would cause it.
[16:53] <macproyeah> hello,i have a macbookpro with ubuntu installed...does this make me a creative person?
[16:53] <quantum_entangle> kinda hard to tell without logs
[16:53] <wheatthin> I was out for a little while, and came back to a frozen box
[16:53] <clark__> hi all, how to remove a apt-get package completely? Can I somehow inspect what files apt-get create and remove them by hand ?
[16:54] <wheatthin> macproyeah, that's not a technical support question. #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:54] <wheatthin> and they'll give you a whirl
[16:54] <macproyeah> why?
[16:54] <macproyeah> they told me that macbooks are oly for smart people
[16:54] <the[void]>  hey guys what would the reccomended method be "clone"  my system drive that is currently on an ext4 fs  so i can re-install it on an ext3 fs?
[16:54] <wheatthin> stop trolling.
[16:54] <macproyeah> i am not trolling
[16:54] <macproyeah> i swear
[16:55] <macproyeah> i am telling the truth
[16:55] <quantum_entangle> so go ask on the other channel. :)
[16:55] <macproyeah> but i didnt have a place to ask so i asked here in ubuntu
[16:55] <wheatthin> well don't
[16:55] <rawrmonster> Is there some way to increase battery life? I have tried tlp, Thermald, intel p_state none of them really helped much
[16:55] <macproyeah> please i will leave
[16:55] <macproyeah> i just wanna know
[16:56] <wheatthin> rawrmonster, you can find that brightness settings n stuff can help, or setting to hybernate if you aren't needing it constantly on
[16:56] <wheatthin> macproyeah, then search google friend.
[16:56] <macproyeah> ok
[16:56] <macproyeah> i will search
[16:58] <ses1984> BarnabasDK: yes
[16:59] <Beldar> rawrmonster, A longer life battery with a higher mih I think its called is your best response
[16:59] <rawrmonster> Beldar: How can I find out if there are batterys that are better for longer life?
[17:00] <TJ-> rawrmonster: battery life depends on how you use the PC, mostly
[17:00] <Beldar> rawrmonster, easy to find on the web that is what I did.
[17:01] <nikolam> Right click on link - open in new tab in Firefox, does not work every other time. It started doing that in recent Firefox update (Xubuntu 64bit 14.04.2)
[17:01] <rawrmonster> TJ-: I mostly just browse the web when i am unplugged. all of the intensive stuff I am plugged in
[17:01] <TJ-> rawrmonster: Ahhh, there's your problem...
[17:01] <rawrmonster> TJ-: and i only get 2:30-3 Hours
[17:01] <TJ-> rawrmonster: ... you're supposed to plug the PC in, not you :p
[17:02] <nikolam> pardon lsb_release -id saying 14.04.1
[17:02] <BarnabasDK> rawrmonster, my laptop gives me a max of 30 mins, so you seem fortunate
[17:03] <Beldar> rawrmonster, For 40$ us I bought a battery for my aceraspire that is a 12 hr battery.
[17:03] <Beldar> US*
[17:03] <rawrmonster> Beldar: hmm I am going to check that out then :D
[17:03] <TJ-> rawrmonster: Is the battery life markedly more than that in the manufacturer's specifications, or when using, say, Windows instead?
[17:04] <rawrmonster> TJ-: It was rated at 4-5 hours. So its not badly off
[17:04] <Beldar> rawrmonster, This is an older netbook so depends I think on the age and probably how common a battery might be
[17:04] <Beldar> age of computer that is
[17:05] <TJ-> rawrmonster: Even with a so-called 'stamina' battery (which are larger and have more cells), if the power draw of the PC is quite high anyway, it won't improve life too dramatically
[17:05] <rawrmonster> Beldar: this laptop is about a year old
[17:05] <TJ-> rawrmonster: what make/model is it?
[17:05] <rawrmonster> TJ-: system76 i7 2.4Ghz
[17:05] <wheatthin> depending on the cpu and other hardware, it will vary
[17:06] <wheatthin> i7's are power houses with lower voltage.. but yeah that'll be rough with quad core & hyperthreading
[17:06] <Beldar> rawrmonster, I would suspect it will more costly My guess is how many models out x how many batteries being bought in a general free market pricing movement.
[17:06] <TJ-> rawrmonster: which model? the web-site lists the laptops by names?
[17:07] <rawrmonster> TJ-: its not in the current line up panp9
[17:08] <autonomoid> Hi folks can someone explain why Ubuntu always has a connection to Canonical opened by ubuntu-geoip?
[17:08] <TJ-> rawrmonster: "Pangolin" ?
[17:08] <clark__> I try to install aide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileIntegrityAIDE but I think I mess something up during the install process, now I try to start over again but something changed on my system and I can't figure out what
[17:08] <autonomoid> 12.04
[17:08] <rawrmonster> TJ-: yea
[17:09] <clark__> non of the commands here seems to help http://askubuntu.com/questions/151941/how-can-you-completely-remove-a-package/151943#151943
[17:09] <clark__> what to do ?
[17:10] <rawrmonster> Will an ssd help battery life a good bit?
[17:10] <TJ-> rawrmonster: this one? https://web.archive.org/web/20120807061734/https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/panp9
[17:10] <quantum_entangle> how can I enter tty interface? it used to be ctrl+alt+f1 but that ain't doing nothin'
[17:11] <rawrmonster> TJ-: yea thats it
[17:12] <Bashing-om> quantum_entangle: Try as : ctl+alt+t .....
[17:12] <nikolam> Launchapad just gave me 'timout error' instead of displaying bug database search result. After that next search was working.
[17:12] <quantum_entangle> also, does 'service lightdm stop' still work or will it do nothing for me?
[17:13] <Bashing-om> quantum_entangle: Try as " sudo service lightdm stop" If you are in a unity DE .
[17:13] <RMCHD> best email client for gahhnuu/loonix?
[17:13] <quantum_entangle> I was going to sudo -s instead
[17:14] <OerHeks> RMCHD, there is no single best.
[17:15] <RMCHD> OerHeks: i've been using Geary, love the interface
[17:17] <TJ-> rawrmonster: I'm surprised at System76, no-where do they specify power-draw or anticipated battery life
[17:17] <quantum_entangle> hmm so ctrl+alt+t did nothing
[17:18] <quantum_entangle> guess ill just have to log out and not log into unity intetrface, no other option for manually installing the nvidia drivers
[17:21] <bipul> I am running ubuntu 12.04 and it's so slow.
[17:22] <Eldunar> try other desktop enviroments : XFCE LXQT ( those are faster0
[17:23] <bipul> Eldunar, how?
[17:23] <nikolam> bipolar, how much RAM do you have, what is slow, how good HD is and what graphics/driver you use. Why not 14.04 , it is also LTS?
[17:23] <Bashing-om> bipul: Do you have the horse power to support the high ebd edition of 'buntu that is 'ubuntu' ? maybe try a lighter version of 'buntu ?
[17:23] <Beldar> bipul, Help if you let the channel know some basic hardware info, chip, ram and graphic info.
[17:23] <nikolam> bipolar, use xubuntu instead as recommendation.
[17:23] <quantum_entangle> ok so theres no way to enter teletype interface in the unity generation ubuntu?
[17:23] <Eldunar> u can reinstall whole system and install XUBUNTU 14.04 Lubuntu 14.24
[17:23] <bipul> OK.
[17:24] <Eldunar> or jjust type
[17:24] <Eldunar> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop
[17:24] <Eldunar> or
[17:24] <Eldunar> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop
[17:24] <Eldunar> after that change your desktop enviroment in logon screen. after relog
[17:25] <Beldar> Eldunar, Please look a little close at the users set up rather that just advising.
[17:25] <TJ-> rawrmonster: I'd do two things. First, I'd check the current battery state.  It is possible it's 'charge_full' is now a lot less than its  'charge_full_design'. I'd also look at the 'current' draw. You can do that with "for n in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/*; do [ -r $n ] && echo "$n = $(cat $n)"; done "
[17:26] <rawrmonster> TJ-: battery life shows 96%
[17:28] <rawrmonster> TJ-: is 4400mAh to 5200mAh a big jump?
[17:28] <cry0g3n> not much...
[17:28] <cry0g3n> but yeah...
[17:29] <fwlug> Anyone able to use skype right now?  (Or is it a system wide problem?)
[17:29] <fwlug> (Unable to login right now.)
[17:31] <fwlug> "connection error"
[17:31] <TJ-> rawrmonster: 4.4 Amps per Hour, so if the PC draws 1.2 amps the battery will last around 3 hours
[17:32] <TJ-> rawrmonster: So 5.2 Amps would maybe give an extra hour.
[17:32] <fwlug> Wondering if it is something with Ubuntu or maybe my ISP or....?
[17:32] <bipul> Please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7935074/ and let me know, why my ubuntu is slow.
[17:33] <OerHeks> fwlug, works here, skype 4.3 update 1-8-2014
[17:33] <fwlug> OerHeks: Ok, maybe it is my ISP.  Thanks...
[17:33] <fwlug> (Just tried two computers here... so...)
[17:33] <TJ-> rawrmonster: most power-saving can be done by lowering backlight, configuring devices to auto-power-save (use powertop to help analyse and change the tunables there), not having devices with active radios using their full power, and using powertop, trying to reduce the number of wakeups (from sleep) per second
[17:34] <daftykins> fwlug: two with the same OS and outdated client? :P
[17:34] <OerHeks> fwlug, if you keep this problem, reset your router can do some magic sometimes
[17:34] <nikolam> Suddenly, opening HTTP pages on browser on LAN (Where Ubuntu computer is used as Wireless client/local gateway) is very very slow. Maybe it is provider, maybe it is Ubuntu?
[17:34] <fwlug> daftykins: One is 4.2 another has 4.3
[17:34] <rollingping> what this will be in 14.04 : http://72sq.com/news/%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%A9-%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%AA-%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87-%D9%88-%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AE-%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%BA
[17:34] <rollingping> sorry
[17:34] <daftykins> fwlug: try a clean account to test
[17:35] <daftykins> fwlug: user account, that is
[17:35] <rollingping> what this will be in 14.04 : grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[17:35] <fwlug> daftykins: Actually, tried 3, (my daughter tried next door too).
[17:35] <tete_> hi, i wanted to get nginx 1.7 work on trusty and followed the tutorial http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html but it still displays 1.4 in apt-cache show. http://pastebin.com/YCsJz08r can someone help me?
[17:35] <fwlug> daftykins: Yes, tried 3 different accounts.
[17:35] <Beldar> rollingping, grub commands do not change
[17:35] <daftykins> fwlug: i said user accounts
[17:35] <daftykins> fwlug: not skype accounts
[17:36] <fwlug> But... next door (at my daughter's), is going through my router...
[17:36] <rollingping> Beldar : I see no "--root-directory" in grub man in 14.04
[17:36] <fwlug> daftykins: 4 separate computers, 3 separate (skype) accounts
[17:37] <Beldar> rollingping, I know grub well and don't recognize that command, not sure it's use.
[17:37] <daftykins> fwlug: yes but... *sigh* my idea is to reset the skype software by creating a clean user account to run it with as if for the first time :)
[17:37] <fwlug> daftykins: It is an interesting problem.
[17:37] <rollingping> Beldar: ok solved it work nice. thanks
[17:38] <Beldar> rollingping, What does that command do, and why would you need it?
[17:38] <fwlug> daftykins: I'm thinking it may be something going on with my ISP
[17:38] <daftykins> fwlug: tried hardcoding google DNS, for if your ISP's is broken?
[17:39] <Beldar> rollingping, Looks like the load the mbr without a chroot from a live command, this does not alwyas work is all.
[17:40] <fwlug> daftykins: One of the computers I tried from uses 8.8.8.8
[17:40] <rollingping> Beldar: it's to repair grub and its MBR. http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm
[17:40] <tete_> got it working with apt-get install nginx=1.7.3-1~trusty
[17:40] <abaday> is there a good channel to ask about hardware and building computers?
[17:41] <phako> has anyone ever encountered the system freezing while dpkg is configuring packages during updates?
[17:41] <Beldar> rollingping, AS I figured, however you want to know how to chroot, manually boot grub, or just use supergrub to get in and do it from the OS's cli.
[17:41] <fwlug> daftykins: ... but I doubt that domain name resolution could have anything to do with it.
[17:41] <TJ-> Beldar: grub v1's "grub-install" has "--root-directory", its equivalent to grub v2's "--boot-directory"
[17:42] <daftykins> fwlug: just giving you stuff you can do something about, take it or leave it.
[17:42] <rollingping> Ok Beldar
[17:43] <Beldar> TJ-, Ah thanks, I never do a live mbr load without a chroot, generally I will just boot it with supergrub or manually, have no had to fir a long time though.
[17:43] <fwlug> daftykins: No, I appreciate your input for sure, (just saying that I tried from a coupter that uses google's nameserver).
[17:43] <fwlug> daftykins: Any other ideas?
[17:44] <Beldar> s/no/not   s/fir/for
[17:44] <Giora> Am I the only one not being able to connect to skype with v4.2?
[17:44] <OerHeks> phako, if there is hdd led activity and numlock still works, let it run
[17:44] <daftykins> fwlug: you weren't too clear on whether all these computers are running different OSs?
[17:44] <phako> OerHeks: yes, and I know it recovers because it's doing it for several releases now, but it starts to really annoy me
[17:44] <Bashing-om> rollingping: That is to install grub to the MBR (sector 0) of the 1st hard drive (sda_, '--root' should now be '--boot' .
[17:44] <OerHeks> Giora, update your system, skype 4.2 will not connect, 4.3 works fine
[17:44] <Giora> Why not?
[17:44] <Giora> It worked until yesterday
[17:45] <Beldar> I never like grub legacy anyway
[17:45] <OerHeks> Giora, because ms blocks 4.2
[17:45] <Giora> >_>
[17:45] <fwlug> daftykins: ... and just switched another PC to 8.8.8.8 and tried again.
[17:45] <Giora> Well 4.3 is crashing for me
[17:45] <Giora> After a bit of hacking we'll see for how long my v4.2 isn't going to connect
[17:46] <daftykins> fwlug: it'll have cache though, so it'll need DNS flushed or a reboot of course
[17:46] <fwlug> OerHeks: Ok, that is interesting....
[17:46] <OerHeks> Giora, i hear a lot of skype issues, notheing we can do about it, it is a binairy blob
[17:46] <Giora> I'll hack it and get it to work
[17:46] <fwlug> daftykins: I did it on the computer, (not the router).
[17:46] <rollingping> ok Bashing-om , i read TJ-  's  message, thank you both. btw still --root-directory works as well
[17:46] <daftykins> fwlug: yes... which has a DNS cache :)
[17:47] <fwlug> daftykins: Not using it on that computer.
[17:47] <Bashing-om> rollingping: : )
[17:47] <fwlug> daftykins: Just changed nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:47] <daftykins> fwlug: that's not gonna work
[17:48] <fwlug> daftykins: Really?
[17:48] <fwlug> daftykins: Why not?
[17:48] <daftykins> not if you're on 12.04+ no
[17:48] <fwlug> daftykins: Oh yea, one of my computers is 12.04....
[17:48] <OerHeks> fwlug, resolv.conf will be rewritten after boot, so editing it is only valid this session
[17:49] <fwlug> daftykins: But the one I just tested on is slackware 14.1
[17:49] <fwlug> OerHeks: Correct, but did not reboot.
[17:49] <daftykins> yeah i'm not supporting any tasks on that.
[17:50] <fwlug> OerHeks: And it depends on what network settings you have and what  network manager you use, whether resolv.conf will be overwritten or not
[17:50] <clark__> this might be a stupid question but ... do apt-get sometimes install different packages depending on hardware or already installed packages ?
[17:51] <fwlug> OerHeks: My caching nameserver is on the router.
[17:52] <daftykins> clark__: perhaps if you could clue is in on why you're asking, we can answer appropriately
[17:54] <clark__> daftykins,  I just playing around with  an idea to use some kind of  integrity monitoring on my system and want to understand the build process
[17:55] <clark__> (how dependencies are treated)
[17:55] <TJ-> clark__: yes
[17:55] <daftykins> clark__: standard packages for a given architecture, beyond that no idea. deps obviously come from package metadata
[17:55] <TJ-> clark__: In Debian packaging it is called "Provides"
[17:57] <TJ-> clark__: e.g: many packages are web-browsers and so can satisfy any dependency on "www-browser" that some other package has
[17:57] <newbie> voidfire: Are you there?
[17:57] <hoechts> hi. I want to test if a raid device was assembled correctly. Therefore i want to mount it READ ONLY. How can i do it?
[17:57] <TJ-> clark__: So, for example, firefox and chromium-browser both "Provides: ... www-browser"
[17:57] <Guest49102> voidfire: Are you there?
[17:58] <Bashing-om> clark__: A good read : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites ...
[17:58] <Rohan_m> Hey is it possible to return to parent without making a exit from child process generated from fork() ?
[17:59] <clark__> TJ-, I understand, thanks
[17:59] <clark__> Bashing-om, thanks
[17:59] <TJ-> Rohan_m: your question doesn't make sense
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> Rohan_m  in what programming language?
[18:00] <Rohan_m> MonkeyDust: C
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> Rohan_m  i'm sure there's a dedicated C channel
[18:00] <Bombo> willin file browser under unity (ubuntu 14.04) i see a script.sh with 755 permission, but when i click on it i get the editor. how do i execute it in the file browser?
[18:00] <TJ-> Rohan_m: after a fork, both parent and child are running asynchronously
[18:03] <Rohan_m> TJ-: o.O well i'm expermenting onthat thing, i made a child process and collecting output via pipe() trying to print stdout by child from parent process asynchronously but i think it gets stuck till child process makes a exit() acting like a blocking function
[18:03] <All0The0Web> Is there a good Android IRC client?
[18:03] <Jeevan> androirc
[18:03] <Jeevan> All0The0Web: AndroIRC
[18:04] <daftykins> All0The0Web: this is not an ubuntu support channel
[18:04] <daftykins> lol, oops
[18:04] <daftykins> it IS!
[18:04] <daftykins> it's not an android one though
[18:04] <daftykins> :D
[18:04] <Jeevan> haha :D
[18:04] <daftykins> i think we know who needs to stay offline today
[18:04] <TJ-> Rohan_m: that's more appropriate for ##programming or ##c
[18:05] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you've been pointed to these channels multiple times
[18:05] <g1> daftykins: it's you
[18:05] <ikonia> Rohan_m: we spoke about this, this channel is for Ubuntu discussion,
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  you have been been muted for 60 seconds
[18:05] <ikonia> Rohan_m: can you please stop using this channel for your programming discussions ?
[18:06] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i always try not to disturb this channel but i reach here after i get no response from ##programming ##c ##unix ##linux
[18:06] <ikonia> Rohan_m: if you get no response on those channels - that does not mean you bring them to here
[18:07] <ikonia> Rohan_m: and I've not seen you in my logs ask any questions in those channels
[18:07] <ikonia> Rohan_m: infact you've asked in ##unix (which is STILL the wrong channel) after I asked you not to - so please don't lie
[18:12] <john0312> Is the LTS upgrade from 12.04.4 to 14.04.1 released yet? do-release-upgrade says that there's no new release.
[18:13] <eeee> john0312: sudo apt-get update, sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[18:13] <ikonia> there is no need for -p
[18:13] <ikonia> if you need -p there is a problem
[18:13] <eeee> ikonia: it wasn't working without -p for some
[18:13] <daftykins> seems there is, we're seeing lots with that quirk
[18:14] <ikonia> eeee: right, so that doesn't mean "use -p"
[18:14] <ikonia> that means fix the problem
[18:14] <eeee> ikonia: he's saying it's saying no new releases found though
[18:14] <daftykins> drop the attitude ikonia
[18:14] <john0312> Tried without -p, still the same.
[18:14] <ikonia> daftykins: there is no attitude
[18:14] <RMCHD> does someone have a spare code/redeem for minecraft? :3
[18:14] <ikonia> eeee: correct, so if it's not offering the release, there is a problam
[18:14] <ikonia> problem
[18:15] <ikonia> eeee: so you need to fix / work the problem if required log a bug, rather than try to bypass it
[18:15] <daftykins> RMCHD: that couldn't have less to do with this channel if you tried.
[18:15] <eeee> ikonia: ok well, -p only uses the upgrade manager of the new release, so what's the problem there?
[18:15] <john0312> with -p, do-release-upgrade works, allowing me to upgrade to trusty.
[18:15] <ikonia> eeee: because there is a problem
[18:16] <john0312> Just wondering, is that the final release, or just the proposed?
[18:16] <ikonia> eeee: -p is "proposed" fixes, 14.04.1 is not a proposed release, it's supposed to be stable
[18:16] <ikonia> eeee: so again - "there is a problem" fixing the problem is the answer not throwing random flags at it
[18:16] <john0312> ikonia, can you recommend me any methods to go about probing this problem?
[18:17] <RMCHD> daftykins, wrong window :s
[18:17] <ikonia> john0312: I'd certainly be checking all the sources config and the release upgrade config, I'd be looking at the logs and the repo I'm using (on the actual server) I'd be stracing the process
[18:17] <quantum_entangle> can anybody tell my why the eff would the terminal demand a cdrom from me when i'm trying to install lubuntu desktop?
[18:17] <TJ-> ikonia: The issue is that meta-release-lts has not been updated, only meta-release-lts-{proposed,development}, we're waiting on the archive admin to update it but no core dev admits to being responsible for that file
[18:17] <ikonia> TJ-: there we go, thank you
[18:17] <quantum_entangle> I didn't even install ubuntu from a disk rom
[18:18] <eeee> ikonia: isn't it the same as running apt-get install upgrade-manager-core ?
[18:18] <daftykins> quantum_entangle: sounds like you've got a CD in your software sources not disabled
[18:18] <TJ-> ikonia: The problem *is not* client-side, it is server-side
[18:18] <Bashing-om> eeee: :: ikonia :: There are number of open bug reports at this time on Launch Pad, In respect to upgrade problems .
[18:18] <john0312> TJ-, so that means I should wait?
[18:18] <ikonia> TJ-: I suspected as much
[18:18] <ikonia> TJ-: hence why I said I'd be checking the repos
[18:18] <TJ-> john0312: You can used the --proposed quite safely
[18:18] <Beldar> quantum_entangle, why are you installing from the cli?
[18:18] <ikonia> john0312: log a bug against tht repo
[18:18] <ikonia> john0312: talk to the mirror owners / team
[18:19] <ikonia> john0312: it's not "right" and unless someone raises it, it will not get fixed
[18:19] <OerHeks> if the meta-release-lts package is not out, i would wait.
[18:19] <john0312> You mean, if I were to update the source.list, I'll get to upgrade to 14.04.1 without -p?
[18:19] <ikonia> john0312: no
[18:19] <daftykins> no, just run with -p, it's fine
[18:19] <TJ-> john0312: the underlying reason is, the update-manager-core package in 12.04 needed bug-fixes to cope with some other bugs, and that package has been stuck in precise-proposed and hasn't been promoted to main for some reason
[18:20] <jhutchins> Beldar: Since he's installing a desktop environment, I would guess he's doing that because he doesn't have one.
[18:20] <quantum_entangle> daftykins: where can I disable that? the last linux I seriously used was ubuntu 7.10 and that was quite different
[18:20] <jhutchins> Beldar: I do 99% of my system management from the CLI though, so it could just be a matter of preference.
[18:20] <john0312> TJ-, ic, I'll google around.
[18:20] <Beldar> jhutchins, Ah thought is was a full install.
[18:20] <daftykins> quantum_entangle: go to system settings, then software and sources
[18:20] <TJ-> ikonia: john0312: it has nothing to do with the archive mirrors either, this is core Canonical
[18:21] <ikonia> TJ-: then why are some upgrades working ?
[18:21] <Beldar> jhutchins, Nice projection though. ;)
[18:21] <ikonia> john0312: if that TJ- is saying is right there should already be a bug report on it, or log a new bug for it
[18:21] <quantum_entangle> daftykins:  duh, yeah, found it, thanks.
[18:21] <daftykins> np
[18:22] <TJ-> ikonia: Those that have precise-proposed enabled will work
[18:22] <john0312> ikonia: TJ-: ic, thanks. I'll go check out the bug report.
[18:22] <ikonia> TJ-: while I agree with your logic, it seems odd that so many people would have proposed enabled by default
[18:23] <alazare619> does anyone in here use smuxi can it be a bnc there channel is basically empty
[18:24] <TJ-> ikonia: Well that's the situation, do-release-upgrade uses http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[18:24] <Beldar> alazare619, Help is generated with stating the issue.
[18:24] <ikonia> TJ-: which as you say, clearly has it missing
[18:24] <matty_r> So can anybody explain to me why programs are starting off screen?
[18:25] <alazare619> How do i configure smuxi to act as just a bnc i want hexchat client to connect to my server and znc is just plain overkill
[18:25] <TJ-> ikonia: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed (and -development) have trusty listed
[18:25] <ikonia> TJ-: very poor
[18:25] <ikonia> TJ-: and nice work
[18:25] <Beldar> matty_r, off screen? Is it a resolution issue?
[18:26] <TJ-> Which is why "do-release-upgrade --proposed" (and --development) work
[18:26] <ikonia> yes, that makes sense
[18:26] <grobe0ba> alazare619, looks to me like smuxi_server is smuxi specific
[18:26] <john0312> Are there any estimation on when will -proposed propagate to the non proposed version?
[18:26] <grobe0ba> it uses it's own protocol, and won't act as a bouncer for a different client
[18:26] <matty_r> Beldar: No I think it's something to do with my dedicated graphics card and the 'onboard' graphics card
[18:26] <alazare619> the wikipedia page then lied and said its a full bouncer grobe0ba :(
[18:26] <TJ-> john0312: from what I know, it should be pretty soon now. I think vacations have got in the way a bit
[18:26] <grobe0ba> alazare619, look at where you're getting your information
[18:27] <john0312> TJ-, ic, thanks. Guess I'll wait it out.
[18:27] <matty_r> Beldar: for some reason it thinks there are two displays
[18:27] <grobe0ba> however, it IS a full bouncer
[18:27] <grobe0ba> it's just designed for use with a single client
[18:27] <TJ-> john0312: I emailed the release manager, Adam Conrad, over a week ago and still not heard back on it
[18:27]  * debrisrat hi!
[18:27] <quantum_entangle> hi
[18:27] <ikonia> TJ-: do you know if there is a bug open for this ?
[18:27] <grobe0ba> alazare619, or perhaps i'm wrong
[18:27] <alazare619> i guess ill just play with it and see
[18:27] <TJ-> ikonia: It's not a bug, that's the point :) But there is a tracker on RT
[18:27] <john0312> Is it stuck because of the HWE Stack thingy?
[18:27] <alazare619> there seems to be little documentation on the smuxi core server
[18:28] <Beldar> matty_r, Not sure but relevant details IE, hardware if your hypothesis is correct would help the channel, no idea myself.
[18:28] <ikonia> TJ-: well there is a bug as it's not been released in line with the release schedule
[18:28] <Term1nal> So, my system updated to 14.04.1, and now refuses to boot. it's a less than a year old haswell i5 system on ASUS z87-k with 4TB 7200rpm hard drive.
[18:28] <grobe0ba> alazare619, have you looked at their site? https://smuxi.im/documentation/server/  <--- talks about it
[18:28] <grobe0ba> i'd never even heard of it till you asked
[18:28] <alazare619> fails to load w/ webkit
[18:28] <grobe0ba> i'd just use znc like a normal person
[18:28] <bekks> Term1nal: so what exactly does it do?
[18:28] <grobe0ba> alazare619, loads just fine for me
[18:28] <Term1nal> tries to boot, drops me into the BIOS setup screen.
[18:28] <alazare619> ahh it worked now must of been a glitch
[18:28] <Beldar> matty_r, Display would be a place to look it seems
[18:29] <jhutchins> Term1nal: Sounds like grub didn't get installed to the MBR.  Is it EFI?
[18:29] <matty_r> Beldar: Yea in there I have the Built-in display and another "Unknown Display" - I have nothing connected
[18:29] <Term1nal> it is.
[18:29] <john0312> Term1nal: Disable secure boot and try again.
[18:29] <quantum_entangle> so not only does the software and updates window frees when i try to install the nvidia binary drivers from it but also when i disable the cdrom source from it and it asks for some update after that, yeah, imma gonna instal mint now. thanks for the help y'all but ubuntu's just not working out anymore. :(
[18:29] <Term1nal> did.
[18:30] <Term1nal> (it was never on anyway)
[18:30] <Beldar> matty_r, relevant info for here and web searches
[18:30] <Term1nal> I tried fresh reinstallation from the 14.04.1 DVD
[18:30] <Term1nal> went through the whole install, and doing the same thing
[18:31] <john0312> Term1nal: So it doesn't boot even with a fresh install?
[18:31] <Beldar> Term1nal, You were asked a pertinent question.
[18:31] <Beldar> jhutchins> Term1nal: Sounds like grub didn't get installed to the MBR.  Is it EFI?
[18:32] <jhutchins> Beldar: He said it is.
[18:32] <jhutchins> !efi
[18:32] <john0312> Haswell is on EFI.
[18:32] <Beldar> jhutchins, I see that now no nick my favorite. ;)
[18:32] <bekks> john0312: HAswell is a CPU generation. It has nothing to do with the mainboaerd using BIOS or UEFI.
[18:33] <Term1nal> john0312: yes, fresh install still occuring.
[18:33] <Bashing-om> john0312: This bug report I am aware of- among others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1347964 .
[18:33] <john0312> ic, I've never seen a Haswell without EFI, so I thought that's the case.
[18:33] <alazare619> hmm i may just go with znc
[18:34] <john0312> Bashing-om: thanks.
[18:34] <Term1nal> I can try reloading with regular 14.04
[18:34] <Term1nal> not sure what went wrong. the install went fine enough, it seemed to have taken place after upgrading to 14.04.1
[18:34] <Qantourisc> Is it correct intel-hda required manual download of .deb's ?
[18:35] <Qantourisc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS
[18:35] <Bashing-om> john0312: Note that it says fixed - I think the 'fix' broke other components .
[18:35] <john0312> Term1nal: Probably something is wrong with GRUB, but I'm not familiar with it.
[18:35] <john0312> Bashing-om: ic, I guess I'll wait for things to get fixed before upgrading.
[18:35] <Term1nal> I tried resetting the CMOS and reconfiguring to have secure boot off, and the like. Updating the BIOS to the latest release from ASUS, no dice.
[18:35] <jhutchins> Term1nal: Did you check the UEFI page?
[18:36] <Term1nal> I'm sure it has something to do with it being a 4TB drive, but again, it worked prior to 14.04.1
[18:36] <TJ-> Term1nal: Hang on a moment, this isn't the first we've heard recently along these lines... I sense a common thread. In the UEFI firmware setup, on the boot menu, do you see an "Ubuntu" entry?
[18:36] <Term1nal> I checked everything I could possibly think of prior to coming to IRC.
[18:37] <Term1nal> I think I know what you mean, let me double check that. I am very sure that UEFI is turned on, however.
[18:37] <jhutchins> Term1nal: We're going to suggest things anyway, on the chance that there might be something you didn't think of.
[18:37] <Bashing-om> john0312: That is the advisement I have seen from others much better qualified than I am .. They say wait for the release of the next 12.04 point release, the 8th (??) .
[18:38] <Hexagon> The latest release is 14.04 to my knowledge
[18:38] <TJ-> Term1nal: I've dealt with a handful of similar issues recently, and for all of them the problem was that the firmware didn't display an Ubuntu boot menu option *but* using efibootmgr from a live environment confirmed there was such an entry, and it was set to the default
[18:38] <Term1nal> give me a moment, phone
[18:39] <nimo> which IRC-client, dudes?"
[18:40] <TJ-> Term1nal: The only thing I could see in the boot entries written by efibootmgr was the boot path, which wasn't using a PCI path but a disk alias path, and that made me wonder if that is causing issues for some firmwares, leading them to 'prune' the Ubuntu entry from the list of valid boot options
[18:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Testers are going around and round with similar at this time .. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237479 , if you will .
[18:40] <reisio> !ops nimo ctcp join spam
[18:40] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[18:41] <reisio> like I said
[18:41] <jarray52> I'm getting the error message, "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." when I try to install Updates using the Update Manager.
[18:41] <reisio> jarray52: and?
[18:41] <linuxgirl> Bonsoir, sur UEFI j'ai un menu comme celle là. http://i.stack.imgur.com/rL6Jh.jpg Comment avoir le même menu comme sur MBR avec l'option for changer la langue?
[18:42] <bprompt> !fr | linuxgirl
[18:42] <reisio> linuxgirl: that's GRUB, not UEFI
[18:42] <jarray52> reisio: How do I approve the installation of packages from those non authenticated sources? Or, authenticate those sources?
[18:42] <reisio> linuxgirl: did you just want to change the entries' titles from English to Francais?
[18:43] <reisio> jarray52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages searching ftw
[18:43] <Giora> May microsoft be doomed
[18:43] <Giora> I have v4.2 working
[18:44] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Yeah, that looks to be a good summary, although last I heard from core-devs last week, the HWE>trusty ISO issue was solved
[18:44] <Giora> skype v4.2*
[18:45] <linuxgirl> ubottu: Ok, c'est desolés et non pas "desoles"!
[18:46] <Bashing-om> TJ-: The original bug report on HWE upgrade issue had been closed as 'fixed'(patched) ,but, many more are now popping up .
[18:46] <reisio> linuxgirl: not everyone knows how to use diacritics :p
[18:48] <nimo> it is alt-e+e :[
[18:48] <linuxgirl> How to boot an ubuntu live cd on UEFI boot system and select langauge on the loader screen. The menu looks different compared to booting on MBR system.
[18:48] <reisio> linuxgirl: language is probably chosen after GRUB
[18:48] <jak2000> hi all
[18:49] <reisio> jak2000: hi
[18:49] <linuxgirl> Is no way to chose language non graphically with boot option?
[18:50] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/9439533    what is wrong in my interfaces file? thanks
[18:50] <reisio> linuxgirl: you might ask /msg alis list *ubunt*fr
[18:50] <Marlenee> i have problem installing ubuntu on my pc
[18:50] <Beldar> linuxgirl, The dvd download is much larger as it contains language on board, not sure if this will fix your issue however.
[18:50] <Bashing-om> linuxgirl: Have you : as soon as bios screen clears when booting liveDVD. depress and hold the right shift key ? -> I expect the language selection screen to appear,
[18:51] <Marlenee> i dont know how install ubuntu on same HDD but in another drive
[18:51] <Beldar> Marlenee, Give us the details of the problem.
[18:51] <linuxgirl> Bashing-om: Non it does not. If I boot in MBR mode it comes
[18:51] <Beldar> Marlenee> i dont know how install ubuntu on same HDD but in another drive  Can you make this clearer?
[18:52] <Giora> linuxgirl: I believe you might need the x64 version to boot in uefi mode
[18:52] <Beldar> Marlenee, An identical install you have on another HD?
[18:52] <linuxgirl> Giora: It is the x86_64 iso
[18:52] <Term1nal> TJ-: Ok, so, I'm -not- getting the UEFI boot entry when I -disable- CSM (legacy fallback, with UEFI set as the "primary" method)
[18:52] <Term1nal> So, might try another reinstall with CSM turned off entirely to force UEFI
[18:52] <reisio> Giora: it's the language and not the boot mode she's interested in
[18:52] <linuxgirl> Term1nal: That is normal
[18:52] <winb> I have installed rtorrent but I can't seem to find rtorrent.rc. There used to be an example file somewhere
[18:52] <Giora> Oh my bad
[18:53] <Bashing-om> linuxgirl: : ( .. did not know of that situation . I too am at a loss.
[18:53] <Marlenee> Beldar : i have 1TB HDD and i partion it to C:drive to 100 GB and then i make D:drive to 50 GB then i split the rest of space to two partion
[18:53] <linuxgirl> Bashing-om: UEFI uses different loader for the boot Its more simple like normal menu of installed grub.
[18:54] <Giora> Marlenee: you could use wubi to install ubuntu
[18:54] <TJ-> Bashing-om: linuxgirl: For DVD UEFI boot there is no language selection before it boots to a regular GRUB menu with "Try..." and "Install..." Once you choose one of those methods, it'll lead to the language selector
[18:54] <Beldar> Marlenee, And than what happens?
[18:54] <Marlenee> C:Drive i run Windows 7 then i make D: 50 GB is free to install ubuntu
[18:54] <Marlenee> i cannt use WUBI
[18:54] <Beldar> Marlenee, Are you on the live ubuntu now?
[18:54] <Giora> Marlenee: why not?
[18:54] <linuxgirl> TJ-: I know but I wondered if there was non graphical method
[18:54] <Marlenee> its force me to download ubuntu from begin
[18:55] <TJ-> linuxgirl: no, there isn't
[18:55] <Marlenee> iam a windows user
[18:55] <Beldar> Giora, wubi is not supported, not a good help option.
[18:55] <TJ-> Term1nal: That suggest it installed in Legacy/MBR mode then
[18:55] <Giora> Beldar: Sorry I didn't know that :/
[18:55] <linuxgirl> If MBR boot does it is there no a boot option to type in?
[18:55] <Term1nal> TJ-: 4TB Disk
[18:56] <Marlenee> Beldar : i downlaod the latest CD of ubuntu
[18:56] <TJ-> linuxgirl: No, because MBR boot uses isolinux whereas UEFI uses the standard EFI boot via grub-efi
[18:56] <Marlenee> Beldar : iam not able to setup it on the D: drive which is free
[18:56] <TJ-> Term1nal: Have you checked the installed system from a live boot?
[18:56] <linuxgirl> Can it be changed from the command line after booting?
[18:56] <Beldar> Marlenee, Are you booted to it's desktop now?
[18:57] <Term1nal> This system was running Ubuntu 14.04 for a while already previously.
[18:57] <Term1nal> something with 14.04.1 borked it.
[18:57] <TJ-> linuxgirl: I'm afraid also, that with the DVD UEFI boot, using "Try..." doesn't give you an immediate language choice, you have to navigate the English menus and install the native language pack
[18:57] <Beldar> Marlenee, Are you fluid in english?
[18:58] <georgelappies> hi I am looking for a shell theme that looks like the default one, accept that it uses square buttons where the default one uses the buttons with the round edges, any suggestions please?
[18:58] <linuxgirl> Like some similar way of it like in the Arch linux iso (if you are familiar with that)
[18:58] <Marlenee> Beldar : i dont know about booted desktop !!
[19:01] <Beldar> Marlenee, Is english your default language?
[19:02] <Marlenee> yes
[19:02] <Marlenee> Beldar : yes
[19:02] <Beldar> Marlenee, Can you boot the ubuntu download to it's desktop?
[19:02] <jak2000> not know why ifconfig not work fine:
[19:02] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/9439533
[19:03] <jak2000> Tj- tell me i have a error in interfaces file
[19:03] <Beldar> Marlenee, WE need to run a few commands in the terminal to confirm a few things is all.
[19:03] <Rohan_m> What irc clients do you guys use ?
[19:03] <Marlenee> Beldar : the only way i can run ubuntu right now is only from USB it like live CD
[19:04] <Rohan_m> Rohan_m: What irc clients do you guyz use for Ubuntu ?
[19:04] <Beldar> Marlenee, That is fine, however I feel we are not communicating.
[19:04] <Beldar> clearly
[19:04] <kendrick> how
[19:04] <Giora> Rohan_m: You could use xchat
[19:04] <vlad003> Rohan_m, XChat and irssi
[19:04] <kendrick> how do I get node.js on my ubuntu system?
[19:05] <Beldar> Rohan_m, Why can you not realize that this is support E.g with actual problems?
[19:05] <Marlenee> Beldar : iam not good in booting ubuntu
[19:05] <Marlenee> Beldar : i always run it from USB whic is easy for me
[19:05] <Beldar> Marlenee, What is your native language?
[19:06] <Marlenee> Beldar : i understand english
[19:07] <xyco> I am formatting a backup hard drive that needs to work on Windows, is exFAT better than NTFS for this?
[19:07] <eeee> Marlenee: after you run the usb, you should click on install ubuntu.
[19:07] <Marlenee> but it dosent show me which Drive to install
[19:07] <Beldar> Marlenee, You have not answered any question I ask, that is a huge red flag, we are not communicating. ;)
[19:08] <eeee> Marlenee: do you get a menu that says Install next to windows, and Install in encrypted drive, .. and at the bottom "Something else"
[19:08] <eeee> ?
[19:09] <Beldar> eeee, I can appreciate you want to help, however if you look at our conversation you will see no real communication.
[19:09] <Beldar> eeee, And references that are incorrect this needs a little look at what is actually there.
[19:09] <OerHeks> Marlenee, how big is that D drive?
[19:09] <Marlenee> i dont remember but i will try later i cant do it now because iam running windows which need to shutdown the OS and see what i get
[19:10] <eeee> OerHeks: he says 50GB
[19:10] <Marlenee> OerHeks : its 50 GB
[19:10] <xyco> I am formatting a backup hard drive that needs to work on Windows, is exFAT better than NTFS for this?
[19:10] <Beldar> xyco, I would use ntfs
[19:11] <rambo123456> say I wanted to have an ubuntu machine on the cloud? is there a free or cheap cloud service out there?
[19:11] <bekks> xyco: you will not be able to safe linux permissions on that drive.
[19:11] <reisio> xyco: exfat has less support than ordinary fat and ntfs IME, but obviously fat has its filesize limitations
[19:11] <Beldar> rambo123456, Not really a support issue.
[19:11] <reisio> xyco: you should distinguish between whether it needs to work on _random_ Windows boxes, though, and Windows boxes you wholly control (for which you could install an ext driver for win32)
[19:13] <xyco> reisio: i have not checked out the Ext4 drivers for Windows in a while, I'll look into that
[19:13] <Term1nal> rambo123456: if you just need SSH access, try DigitalOcean, 5 bones a month for a VPS with 1 core, 512MB RAM, and 20GB SSD with 1TB outbound transfer.
[19:13] <reisio> xyco: ext2fsd, works fine
[19:13] <rambo123456> Term1nal: thats not bad.. I will check it out
[19:13] <Marlenee> Beldar : i will shutdown now and see what i get in
[19:13] <rambo123456> Term1nal: do you use it?
[19:13] <eeee> Marlenee: if you see "Something else", that is the option you need, however when you enter there it will be a partitioning utility, it won't say D: & C:, it will say SDA1 SDA2 , are you familiar with what partitions you'll need for ubuntu?
[19:14] <Term1nal> there's a promo code for you, rambo123456: 10 bucks credit to try it out
[19:14] <Beldar> Marlenee, THe others are more willing to just help I would stick with them. ;)
[19:14] <eeee> (swap partition, main root partition, etc.)
[19:14] <Term1nal> yes I do, I have several VPSes served on DigitalOcean
[19:14] <tortib> Term1nal, nice I have a VPS on DO as well :D
[19:15] <Term1nal> rambo123456: this should work for you for 10 bucks credit: SNAPjuly
[19:15] <Marlenee> eeee : no i dont knwo much about sda
[19:15] <eeee> Marlenee: you have experience partitioning though, right?
[19:15] <rambo123456> Term1nal: Thanks.  you da man
[19:17] <rambo123456> Term1nal: and I can install whatever I want in it?  any development tool?
[19:17] <eeee> Marlenee: it's the same as C: D:, except in ubuntu the main disk is called SDA, and the partitions (C: D: etc.) are called SDA1 SDA2. It's just a naming scheme.
[19:17] <Term1nal> they give you an image of whatever distro you want basically, and you get root access, do whatever you want.
[19:17] <Marlenee> eeee: lets say i install ubuntu on that D: Drive what if i want to choose between windows on C:drive and ubuntu on D:drive
[19:17] <bekks> eeee: And you just mixed up partitions and filesystems :)
[19:18] <bekks> Marlenee: Then ou have to tell your bootloader.
[19:18] <Beldar> eeee, Your obviously not scrolling back, your just confusing the user more.
[19:18] <bekks> !dualboot | Marlenee
[19:18] <reisio> Marlenee: you'll have to "tell" your bootloader if it doesn't autoconfigure that way
[19:19] <Marlenee> Beldar : iam already confused ;|
[19:20] <Beldar> Marlenee, Yes I could tell that and was trying to systematically discover what you had and your understanding so we could get a good good install efficiently, but to only be interrupted, which has just confused the issue for you and the jump in helpers. ;)
[19:21] <Beldar> the ego's abound here.
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  do some reading here, about what partitions are http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-linux-guide,2293-5.html
[19:21] <PoolShark_> Hi... I am having a problem with Ubuntu 14.04 desktop... it seems it is unable to detect any of the drives attached to my Marvell 9172 SATA controller. I can see the adapter on lspci -k and also that the ahci driver is loaded for it, but it just doesn't see the drives. Google tells me there have been many reports of this going back fully three years, and that the kernel was patched to fix the problem, but I'm curious why the lates
[19:21] <bekks> PoolShark_: How do you look for the drives?
[19:21] <eeee> Beldar: heh i just want to give him a helping hand.
[19:21] <PoolShark_> doesn't have this patch... oddly booting the liveCD can see the drives, so the kernel used for the LiveCD has the patch, but the kernel installed with the distro doesn't
[19:21] <PoolShark_> bekks: dmesg | grep sd
[19:22] <Beldar> eeee, And how has that gone?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  learning something new can be hard, confusing and even frustrating, that's true
[19:22] <reisio> Beldar: the egos* you mean! HOHO
[19:23] <bekks> PoolShark_: Did you configure a RAID in the BIOS of that controller?
[19:23] <PoolShark_> bekks: no.. it's AHCI
[19:23] <Beldar> reisio, Oh you grammar man. ;)
[19:24] <Beldar> depends ego is you know
[19:24] <PoolShark_> bekks: I would never use a hardware "fakeraid" controller when mdadm gives so much better diagnostic coverage and tools :)
[19:24] <reisio> Beldar: id!
[19:24] <eeee> Beldar: whatever just cause you don't want to spend an extra second figuring out what he's trying to say.. dont jump on me
[19:24] <bekks> PoolShark_: that controller is a hardware raid 1/0 controller.
[19:25] <PoolShark_> bekks: it also does AHCI non-RAID
[19:25] <Beldar> eeee, I was spending a lot of time just trying to get on the same page, until the pile on which just confuses the issue look at the scroll back.
[19:25] <PoolShark_> bekks: the "RAID" part is done in the option ROM loaded from the motherboard firmware
[19:25] <eeee> Beldar: you were asking about his language, 3 times
[19:25] <Beldar> eeee, I'm not going to participate in just confusing the issue \.
[19:25] <PoolShark_> bekks: the 9172 itself is simply a pci-e to SATA bridge
[19:26] <jarray52> While updating, I'm getting the error message that the packages freecad, liboce-foundation8, liboce-modeling8, ... come from an unauthenticated source. These come from the repo http://ppa.launchpad.net/freecad-maintainers/freecad-stable/ubuntu precise main. How do I approve this repo?
[19:26] <Beldar> eeee, We wee not communication nor ere any questions clearly answerd.
[19:26] <reisio> jarray52: already told you
[19:26] <Term1nal> jarray52: check your date and time.
[19:26] <xangua> !gpgerr | jarray52
[19:26] <Beldar> were* communicating*
[19:27] <kendrick> !gpgerr | jarray52
[19:27] <eeee> Beldar: i guess i have magical mind reading skills :)
[19:27] <Term1nal> It could be the date and time are out of date, thus even if the key is valid, it may not be valid given that your clock might be rolled back to a date in which the key is not -yet- valid.
[19:27] <Beldar> eeee, You can just keep defending rather than reflecting it's you cognition.
[19:27] <Guido1> hello, soon I will be in a network which supports gigabit ethernet. Are there specific requirements needed to use it like a minimum amount of RAM or processor speed?
[19:27] <Beldar> your*
[19:27] <PoolShark_> iin any case, I need to see these drives heh
[19:28] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : i format that drive to "NTFS" am i still able to install ubuntu on it or shall i need to format it in "ext3"
[19:28] <OerHeks> Guido1, no, gigabit network will run on a 900 mhz cpu too
[19:28] <Term1nal> Guido1: if your machine is like... newer than 8 years old, you should be fine on gigabit.
[19:28] <eeee> Marlenee: in the "Something else" option you can make partitions and format them
[19:28] <jhutchins> Marlenee: It's possible to install Linux on ntfs, but it doesn't work well and isn't recommended.
[19:29] <jhutchins> Marlenee: ntfs doesn't handle permissions and ownership the same way as linux does.
[19:29] <Term1nal> That's primarily a filesystem driver thing, jhutchins
[19:29] <Term1nal> not the underlying FS itself;.
[19:30] <jhutchins> Term1nal: No.
[19:30] <reisio> also NTFS is just crappy :)
[19:30] <Beldar> heh 5 helpers doing what I was obviously trying to do, confirm what is there, an understanding of file system
[19:30] <Term1nal> indeed it is.
[19:30] <reisio> Beldar: you win the game
[19:30] <jhutchins> Term1nal: No, they store the information differently.
[19:30] <Guido1> OerHeks, Term1nal: I don't know the exact age. Some computers may be a bit older, but the main linux machine is very new (intel i5, 4 GB ram)
[19:30] <Beldar> just an observation
[19:31] <Term1nal> Guido1: you'll be fine with gigabit.
[19:31] <OerHeks> Guido1, you'll be fine
[19:31] <Beldar> no one wins
[19:31] <Term1nal> Let's also not forget, if trying to interop with windows, you'll have troubles with line endings being different in linux vs windows, so there's that problem.
[19:31] <reisio> it's not a problem 'cause nobody's doing it and if they did nobody'd care :)
[19:32] <Term1nal> best to just split the drive as needed, mixing NTFS on some partitions, and ext4 on others. with a single NTFS -shared- partition to move data to-from.
[19:32] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins: i dont have any problem to format that D: partion to ext3 but if i run windows 7 OS can i see the files inside that partion and what if i want to copy or write to or from ot
[19:32] <reisio> best to pick one OS, how many OSes do you need?
[19:32] <reisio> you only need one
[19:32] <Term1nal> What I do
[19:32] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Not by default, no.
[19:32] <Term1nal> is I run Ubuntu on the bare metal
[19:32] <Beldar> heaven forbid we help the user understand in a functional manner. ;)
[19:32] <Term1nal> and if I ever need windows (god forbid), I run it under virtualbox
[19:32] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: You can get ext filesystem drivers for Windows, but they don't come with it.
[19:33] <reisio> Beldar: beats an OO manner, at any rate
[19:33] <Bombo> i want to change the resolution of my monitor (running nvidia) but nothing happens when i change it in nvidia panel or unity settings, in Xorg.log.0 i see '(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1 Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display device CRT-1 (Using EDID frequencies has been enabled on all display devices.)'
[19:33] <Term1nal> lol reisio
[19:33] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: You can have an NTFS partition for shared data, but the system drive needs to be a *nix compatible filesystem.
[19:33] <Bombo> (it worked with ubuntu 12.10 btw)
[19:33] <Beldar> your evidence is?
[19:33] <eeee> Marlenee_m: you can copy the files from ubuntu to windows while you're booted in ubuntu.
[19:34] <DarkCat26> Ubuntu softwares on http://gthotel.org
[19:34] <Beldar> reisio, Since your very good at this and I believe a fellow sax player I do like your help here. ;)
[19:34] <Marlenee_m> eeee: what about from windows to ubuntu when i boot in windows
[19:35] <reisio> Beldar: you saxist
[19:35] <reisio> :D
[19:35] <Beldar> lol
[19:35] <reisio> what a great pun
[19:35] <reisio> man, that was a good pun :p
[19:35]  * reisio pats self on back
[19:35] <Beldar> I will otto link you bro
[19:35] <reisio> heh
[19:35] <eeee> Marlenee_m: as jhutchins suggested
[19:35] <reisio> you will selmer books that way
[19:35] <Beldar> newest 6 hard rubber love ut
[19:36] <reisio> mmm, rubber
[19:36] <reisio> I feel the lunch tyme a-comin'
[19:37] <Ademan> Anyone who's used a MIDI keyboard with ubuntu before. Is it possible to 1. not use JACK and 2. have low enough latency to hear what you're playing through fluidsynth?
[19:37] <reisio> Ademan: sure
[19:37] <reisio> jack is never required
[19:38] <fabiozolio> alguém aqui ?
[19:38] <reisio> and there are lower latency kernels if you want'm
[19:38] <Marlenee_m> eeee: i agree with "jhutchins" but what if i want to run windows and that D:partion cant read or write from it
[19:38] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Linux can read and write to most file systems, but Windows doesn't handle many by default.  You can get/install drivers for windows to read other filesystems.
[19:38] <Ademan> reisio: hrm, I guess I just saw JACK associated with everything audio-related I assumed it was either required or effectively required (because everything else performed/functioned too poorly)
[19:38] <reisio> fabiozolio: #ubuntu-br
[19:39] <reisio> Ademan: jack is very handy, but never requierd
[19:39] <reisio> required*
[19:39] <reisio> Ademan: you should probably find an audio channel
[19:39] <reisio> Ademan: /msg alis list *audio*, or *sound*, etc.
[19:39] <reisio> maybe *studio*
[19:39] <jhutchins> Boy, it's been so long since I used NTFS I don't remember what happens when Linux writes a file on it - how ownership maps.
[19:40] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins: i will install ubuntu on that D:partion formated as NTFS
[19:40] <reisio> jhutchins: if it doesn't just fail and eat your data, y'mean? :p
[19:40] <Ademan> reisio: hrm there *is* an #ubuntustudio maybe I'll try there first, thanks!
[19:40] <rww> jhutchins: if I recall correctly, on the Windows side everyone has access to it
[19:40] <eeee> Marlenee_m: as jhutchins said, from ubuntu you can read and write to the windows partition, but if you want to access the ubuntu partition from windows you'll need to do some extra work
[19:40] <malkauns> my audio just died and pulseaudio -k doesnt fix it, what can i do?
[19:40] <reisio>   /msg alis list *ubuntustudio*
[19:40] <reisio> whoops
[19:40] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins: it dosent matter to ownership
[19:40] <reisio> 36 whole pplz
[19:41] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Yeah, it does.
[19:41] <jarray52> reisio: I tried the method listed at the link you provided: 'http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages' That resulted in the following error.
[19:41] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Ubuntu also uses file links which can't happen on NTFS.
[19:41] <jarray52> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 005EAE8119BB5BCA
[19:41] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Some programs don't work correctly if the ownership and permissions aren't right.
[19:42] <Marlenee_m> all i need to know now is installing ubuntu on that D:drive and to able to choose between windows and ubuntu and just read and write files
[19:42] <Junior> hellome, i am having trouble upgrading a ubuntu 12.10. Please see: http://pastebin.com/azQyW0Qx . Any ideeas ? Thank you!
[19:42] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: There are changes you can make, and there are distributions that are meant to be installed on NTFS like Cygwin, but in general the full linux installations on NTFS do not work very well.
[19:44] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Why do you think you need to write to the Linux drive from Windows?
[19:44] <eeee> Marlenee_m: ok, in the "something else" option, that 50GB, you have to delete it so it turns into free space, then make a partition that's roughly the same size of your RAM (if it's 6GB RAM make it 6.5GB) and the partition type is Swap, then make the main root partition that is 'Mounted On' "/" and ext4 filesystem type
[19:44] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins : like transfer movies songs apps what ever
[19:45] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: There's no need to transfer them, Ubuntu can read them directly from the Windows drive.
[19:45] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: Apps won't transfer - Windows apps don't run under Linux.
[19:45] <Justanick> Will 14.04 get the gcc 4.8.3 as an update for 4.8.2 ?
[19:45] <Qantourisc> jhutchins: there was some ext2/3 tool, but it bluescreed when i tried it
[19:46] <Qantourisc> jhutchins: i'd bet on mounting windows in linux :p
[19:46] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins : thats the answer i looking for
[19:46] <jhutchins> Qantourisc: Yeah, there are commercial grade drivers you can get.
[19:47] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins : i dont mean windows apps i mean there some linux apps stored on windows partion
[19:49] <jhutchins> Marlenee_m: You mean packages or installed apps?  Packages will be readable and installable, but for previous reasons you don't want to install linux apps on Windows.
[19:50] <Marlenee_m> jhutchins : yeah i mean packages from repositories
[19:51] <keviv> Does anybody know what the name of the persistence file for a live thumb drive is?
[19:51] <keviv> Is it casper-rw?
[19:52] <Bombo> hmmm where is wine 1.7 in ubuntu 14.04? i'm pretty sure i got it installed in 12.10
[19:53] <xangua> Bombo: sudo apt-get install wine
[19:54] <Bombo> xangua: installs 1.6
[19:54] <Bombo> xangua: need 1.7
[19:56] <frost_bite> is there something I can use to remotely get the PUBLIC IP of my hone computer even if it reboots and gets a new random address?
[19:58] <Bombo> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages there it is
[19:59] <DJones> frost_bite: dyndns seems to work ok for me, there's multiple services that will work though
[19:59] <Bombo> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/4292983/+listing-archive-extra
[19:59] <Bombo> why isn't that in the trusty repo?
[20:00] <jhutchins> Marlenee_e: Well, hopefully you'll be able to download the packages with the package manager within Ubuntu.
[20:00] <Bombo> i don't see it with apt-cache search wine
[20:00] <Justanick> Bombo: 1.7 is still a develop version.
[20:02] <Bombo> Justanick: https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6180058 'in ubuntu trusty RELEASE'
[20:04] <xangua> Bombo: gusta a
[20:04] <excelsiora> I installed virtualbox's .deb from their site. Now it's screwing up on me.
[20:04] <excelsiora> How can I uninstall it and reinstall from the repos?
[20:04] <xangua> Bombo: that's a third party repository
[20:05] <xangua> !latest l Bombo
[20:05] <excelsiora> fair enough
[20:05] <Bombo> xangua: 'gusta a'?
[20:05] <xangua> No more latest factoid ?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> xangua  it's with |, not with l
[20:06] <excelsiora> askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue
[20:06] <excelsiora> no help ^
[20:06] <Bombo> xangua: how do you know? and can i add this? how?
[20:06] <excelsiora> well, lots of help. most upvoted answer didn't help.
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> excelsiora  then try another answer, it may help for you
[20:08] <excelsiora> They're all old, and I suppose not for the repo version
[20:08] <excelsiora> non-repo version I mean
[20:12] <bagel`> i just installed the apache2 package on ubuntu. i just created my first entry in /etc/apache2/sites-available and ran a2ensite and restarted apache. but yet it still brings me to the default apache page, /var/www/html .. but if i edit the vhost entry and take out <VirtualHost *:80> and replace it with the IP (for *) , it works.. this is happening ever since i upgraded to 14.04
[20:12] <bagel`> from 13.10
[20:13] <Bombo> ok got it https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:13] <Bombo> sorry ;)
[20:13] <Aaraigathor> I have a pc running windows 7 and I want to make it a dualboot with Ubuntu 14.04, the issue is that the harddrive is a 1.5TB and uses GPT instead of MBR. How can I do this?
[20:14] <Bashing-om> ax562: Have you been able to expand the ubuntu partition ?
[20:14] <bekks> Aaraigathor: Basically the same way as with MBR.
[20:15] <bekks> Aaraigathor: And if you arent forced to use GPT, you can use MBR as longas the drive is smaller than 2TB.
[20:15] <Aaraigathor> bekks: What if I am forced to use GPT? How would I do this then?
[20:16] <bekks> !dualboot | Aaraigathor
[20:16] <Aaraigathor> bekks: The machine already has windows 7 on it and is using GPT, will those instructions work for GPT?
[20:17] <joelmo> does anyone have an iPhone and have figured out how to sync music to it?
[20:17] <daftykins> !itunes
[20:17] <joelmo> I have used banshee and put music on the phone but it doesn't appear when I use the phone only in banshee
[20:18] <joelmo> !players
[20:19] <bekks> Aaraigathor: I never had to dualboot in the last decade :)
[20:19] <Aaraigathor> bekks: Thanks for your help!
[20:25] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS - is it broken ??? Why its not installing in my Alienware X51 Dell PC? i have only a Ubuntu splash screen for 1 hour
[20:27] <Eldunar> hmm check if u have secureboot turned off
[20:27] <IamTrying> Eldunar: Where?
[20:27] <fnook1331> does any one know a good work around for the a2dp audio sync problems with in ubuntu 14.04 lts
[20:27] <Eldunar> In bios .
[20:28] <IamTrying> Eldunar: in Alienware X51 bios: i have boot mode = Legacy
[20:28] <IamTrying> Eldunar: Legacy or UEFI?
[20:28] <Eldunar> legacy
[20:28] <IamTrying> OK - it was always legacy Eldunar
[20:29] <Eldunar> but not only that. Look for sth like secureboot
[20:30] <bekks> IamTrying: You can try to set nomodeset also.
[20:30] <bekks> !nomodeset | IamTrying
[20:30] <fnook1331> does any one know a good work around for the a2dp audio sync problems with in ubuntu 14.04 lts
[20:32] <IamTrying> Eldunar: with same PC i can use Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 but not 14.04 it must be 14.04 and this Dell hardware related
[20:32] <IamTrying> bekks: i set nomodeset but still same, splash screen ubuntu logo and 4 dots
[20:32] <Eldunar> hmmm.... look if u have sth like CMS : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2039451
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> IamTrying  i had the same thing with my intel pc, every release works on it, except 14.04, i now use 12.04
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> replace intel with acer*
[20:34] <mounir> hello
[20:34] <mounir> i'm new in Ubuntu
[20:34] <mounir> i love it
[20:35] <bekks> IamTrying: So disable splash and disable quiet and try again, using nomodeset.
[20:35] <mounir> bye
[20:35] <mounir> ;)
[20:35] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to use the terminal built-in to Nautilus.  But I have two problems.  One, when I press backspace, I am moved up to the parent directory (instead of deleting a character on the terminal).  Two, when I press "/", instead of typing a "/" the breadcrumbs at the top turn into a text field containing only "/" (presumably to enter a path manually).  How can I prevent these behaviors?
[20:35] <BlueProtoman> (Ubuntu 14.04)
[20:37] <fnook1331>  I am having major problems with a2dp audio sync with bluetooth headphones with ubuntu 14.04 lts
[20:37] <num1_> BlueProtoman, wait, there's a terminal built into Nautilus?
[20:38] <BlueProtoman> num1_: Well, I have a Nautilus plug-in that adds one in
[20:39] <Bombo> i installed apt-get install lxde, selected it in lightdm, it starts, works good, but the logout button doesn't do anything, i see 'lxsession-logout --banner /usr/share/lxde/images/logout-banner.png --side=top' in htop running, but nothing happens
[20:40] <fnook1331> hello, this is a support channel can i get some help with this issue that i have
[20:40] <Ben64> !patience | fnook1331
[20:41] <num1_> BlueProtoman, telling us which plugin you installed which probably help us tell you how to use that plugin :)
[20:41] <BlueProtoman> num1_: One sec
[20:42] <IamTrying> http://oi60.tinypic.com/afkm0k.jpg - bekks: 1) disabled splash/quite and set nomodeset 2) see screen shot there its waiting forever...
[20:44] <BlueProtoman> num1_: https://launchpad.net/nautilus-terminal
[20:44] <bekks> IamTrying: Can you boot into recovery mode?
[20:44] <pooky> I've been trying to use the online account feature of ubuntu with evolution, but all of my accounts continue to time out when I try to connect. Any suggestion for figuring out the problem?
[20:45] <nosound> How do I see WHY a package won't install? I meet the deps, and there's no conflicts, yet it says broken and won't install.
[20:45] <pooky> If it's just a matter of manually putting my accounts into evolution I'll do it, I just don't understand the point of the online accounts :/
[20:45] <bekks> nosound: Can you pastebin the entire output you are seeing please?
[20:45] <bekks> !pastebin|nosound
[20:48] <nosound> bekks: ok, so i found the problem was further up the tree of deps... for some reason libjack-dev was not installing libjack0 so evne though port's deps were met jacks were not...
[20:48] <IamTrying> bekks: recovery mode booted
[20:49] <pr0t> Hi, I am running Gnome Shell and I want to replace it's default application/task bar with cairo dock, does anyone know if there is documentation related to this?
[20:49] <nosound> bekks: you'd think it'd be smart enough to auto-select things :P
[20:50] <nosound> pr0t: If you're lazy and want classic Gnome, MATE is now available in Ubuntu.
[20:51] <pr0t> nah I don't want classic Gnome, I definitely still want Gnome shell,  but with the cairo dock to replace the standard one that comes with gnome shell
[20:51] <bekks> nosound: If you think you're smart, then suggest more targetting solution attempts.
[20:51] <costi4u> hi
[20:51] <xangua> pr0t: then just use it
[20:51] <costi4u> I put kill -9 -1 on terminal and my pc is crashed
[20:52] <costi4u> what should i do
[20:52] <bekks> costi4u: Reboot, and never type that again?
[20:52] <costi4u> ok
[20:52] <pr0t> xangua, I would like to know how to replace the default bar though completely with it?
[20:53] <iza> guys, please, any help with this error message from boot-repair? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7936280/
[20:53] <pr0t> xangua: no quick reply to that?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  install cairo dock, logout, switch to cairo, login
[20:54] <pr0t> MonkeyDust: won't that take me to classic Gnome with cairo-dock? I want Gnome shell with cairoDock
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  that sounds like Frankenbuntu, not sure if you can mix DE's just like that
[20:55] <pr0t> DE?
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> desktop environmrent
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> -r
[20:56] <pr0t> well...
[20:56] <pr0t> it's not really mixing windows managers
[20:56] <pr0t> it's just stopping one application and starting another right?
[20:56] <OerHeks> pr0t, one way to find out
[20:57] <pr0t> I can run cairo dock inside of gnome shell just fine, but that doesn't git rid of the gnome shell application menu
[20:57] <pr0t> and their is unexpected behavior with them both running, which it was I want to figure out how to disable the default app bar
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  i think you want too much
[20:58] <pr0t> lol
[20:58] <pr0t> I want to much because I want to slightly customize my windows manager?
[20:58] <pr0t> s/to/too
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  what you want is a completely new DE
[20:58] <pr0t> no...
[20:58] <pr0t> you're very silly.
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  no, you want to customize the DE
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  and no need to start calling people names
[20:59] <pr0t> OK, we are done talking.
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  in short: what you want is not possible
[20:59] <pr0t> No, it is not, you just don't know how to do it.
[21:00] <pr0t> I am running Cairo dock in Gnome shell right now, I know it's possible to remove the other bar, people customize the heck out of them all the time for the 1,000s of Gnome shell themes out there.
[21:01] <pr0t> MonkeyDust, any questions?
[21:01] <grobe0ba> pr0t why not use a different wm that is actually good for theming
[21:01] <grobe0ba> instead of abusing one that isnt
[21:01] <pr0t> Gnome shell is good for theming.... people do it all the time, go google gnome shell themes.
[21:02] <pooky> Theme and replacing components might be slightly different things :)
[21:02] <pr0t> gnome shell even supports widgets, that makes it highly customizable
[21:02] <pr0t> What are you guys talking about?
[21:02] <pr0t> Gnome shell was designed to be highly customizable...
[21:02] <pr0t> You guys are talking out of your butts.
[21:02] <OerHeks> pr0t, do some reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock  to enable cairo dock as your only dock, logout etc
[21:03] <OerHeks> pr0t, oke i stop helping, good luck with it
[21:03] <pr0t> Oerheks, thank you, that is exactly what I wanted
[21:03] <pr0t> a hey here is the link now rtfm, thats exactly what I wanted
[21:03] <grobe0ba> if you dont want the help we are trying to give
[21:03] <OerHeks> pr0t, that is exactly as MonkeyDust suggested
[21:03] <grobe0ba> then get the fuck out
[21:03] <pr0t> but saying its not possible and im done cause i want to remove major components and its impossible is stupid
[21:04] <grobe0ba> learn ti google cunt
[21:04] <pr0t> s/done/dumb
[21:04] <pr0t> cunt?
[21:04] <pr0t> whooa, come on guys...
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  you ask for help and then start swearing to people, that's not polite, is it
[21:04] <pr0t> can't you have a disagreement without calling names?
[21:04] <pr0t> I did not swear, I said silly and butt.
[21:04] <pr0t> neither are swears.
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> pr0t  no profanities here, please
[21:05] <pr0t> and I only got difference when trolls couldn't answer my question so they start to bash me and my idea of what I want to do
[21:05] <pr0t> s/difference/defensive/
[21:05] <pr0t> heh
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> !coc | pr0t
[21:05] <pr0t> what about the guy who just called me the c word?
[21:05] <pr0t> lol...
[21:06] <IdleOne> pr0t: I suggest you try to be nicer to the people trying to help you. Reading the guidelines linked in the topic will explain a little bit what is expected of you and everyone else in Ubuntu channels
[21:06] <IdleOne> pr0t: he is gone.
[21:06] <IdleOne> worry about your behaviour
[21:06] <pr0t> Idle0ne: please scroll up and look at what i typed
[21:06] <pr0t> i was very polite and nice
[21:06] <pr0t> and I became defensive when someone said oh what you want is stupid and can't be done
[21:07] <pr0t> specially when I know it can be done.
[21:07] <IdleOne> anyway, lets move on now.
[21:07] <pr0t> yeah, after I am trolled, and use logic then you want to move on.
[21:07] <pr0t> sure, lets...
[21:08] <pr0t> if this is any indication of how the ubuntu community behave I think I would have to boycott it ;))
[21:08] <pr0t> s/behave/behaves
[21:08] <IdleOne> ok
[21:09] <awrsrme> question:  I mounted an external drive using disks after a fresh format.  shows up in files, but not within a specific program im trying to save files with (rstudio, recovering a dead raid).  is there something to be done with how I mount this drive? or maybe its an rstudio issue? running 14.04 trusy tahr
[21:09] <Erika22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1jnWNBn
[21:10] <thevoid> hey guys i'm having an issue with my samba shares,  they are reading as only having the same amount of freespace as my / mount,  anyone have any idea why?
[21:10] <danes> hello, anyone knows where can I find a fix for vidalia? (process:2491): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, 0 matched rules; type="method_call", sender="(null)" (inactive) interface="org.freedesktop.DBus" member="Hello" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)
[21:11] <bagel`> if i have a text file full of strings, and i know the word "schoolbus" is somewhere in the middle of the file.. how can i open file.txt and start right at schoolbus? like instead of nano file.txt and then ctrl+w and then look for schoolbus.. how can i start on that line?
[21:11] <bagel`> any ideas
[21:11] <bagel`> im trying to open a file and start at a specific defined string using nano (if thats even possible)
[21:11] <bagel`> or if theres a way to determine what line number the string "schoolbus" is at in file.txt
[21:11] <bagel`> then i could use that line number to open through nano
[21:12] <Phil42> grep -n
[21:13] <izabera> after 20 minutes, i hope it's ok to repeat my question:
[21:13] <izabera> [20:52] <iza> guys, please, any help with this error message from boot-repair? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7936280/
[21:13] <fridaynext> this is my /etc/exports, and I can connect to my NFS shares, but I can't write to them. Can anyone see any settings I have that are blatantly wrong? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0s8FnRQM
[21:16] <Marlenee> !paste
[21:16] <Marlenee> !screenshots
[21:20] <golfero> hey
[21:20] <golfero> iv installed libre office with this comman sudo apt-get libreoffice, but now i dont see the libreoffice in my ubuntu office section
[21:20] <golfero> can anyone help me with this complicated problem
[21:21] <golfero> i mean is there any expert out there
[21:21] <guntbert> golfero: your "office section"? what is that?
[21:21] <fridaynext> Marlenee: was my comment too long for you?
[21:21] <golfero> guntbert,  i mean my ubuntu office section
[21:22] <golfero> like u know.. menue-office-libreoffice
[21:23] <golfero> and another problem is that, if downloaded the torrent of libreoffice , that comes up with a debian folder
[21:23] <guntbert> golfero: press the "win" key to invoke the dash, the type   writer
[21:23] <guntbert> *then
[21:23] <golfero> nothing comes guntbert
[21:24] <guntbert> golfero: do you get the dash?
[21:24] <voyagerlive> guntbert,  yep
[21:25] <voyagerlive> dash means where u search right?
[21:26] <guntbert> voyagerlive: please don't change nicks during a conversation - yes, where you search - what do you get when you just type     lib   (and wait a little)
[21:26] <Vampire-Bill> 14.04 wine or play on linux for trying to get smite working for son
[21:27] <basketball> how can i do this from a script gksudo gedit /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/intel-audio-powersave Find this line:
[21:27] <basketball> INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} and comment it out by putting a "#" in front of it like this:
[21:27] <basketball> # INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} Just below this line you make a new line, like this:
[21:27] <basketball> INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=false So now you will have:
[21:27] <basketball> # INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true} INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=false
[21:28] <voyagerlive> guntbert,  i only get the .gz file of libreoffice that i have downloaded from torrent.
[21:28] <basketball> voyagerlive, are you trying to install 4.3
[21:28] <voyagerlive> basketball,  yep
[21:29] <basketball> hang on i have it up in chrome
[21:29] <guntbert> voyagerlive: please open a terminal and type    apt-cache policy libreoffice
[21:29] <guntbert> !paste | basketball
[21:30] <basketball> voyagerlive, copy and paste this in one line in  terminal
[21:30] <voyagerlive> guntbert,  it says install : none
[21:30] <basketball> voyagerlive,  do you have old version of libre installed
[21:30] <Corgi> Should I dual boot win8 and ubuntu?
[21:31] <voyagerlive> basketball,  no
[21:31] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: why
[21:31] <basketball> ok voyagerlive  type this in one line  wget http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/deb-x86/4.3.0/en-US/LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz && tar -xzvf LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz
[21:31] <basketball>  && cd LibreOffice_4.3.0.4_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS && sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:31] <Corgi> Vampire-Bill, I want to use ubuntu.
[21:31] <basketball>  wget http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/deb-x86/4.3.0/en-US/LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz && tar -xzvf LibreOffice_4.3.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz
[21:31] <basketball>  && cd LibreOffice_4.3.0.4_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS && sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:31] <basketball> my bad
[21:32] <voyagerlive> basketball,  iv downloaded the torrent file of libreoffice, now i dont know how to install it
[21:32] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: it is up to you, have you dual booted os before
[21:32] <Corgi> Vampire-Bill, No, and I'm scared that it'll break my computer and I won't be able to use it
[21:33] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: than read about it first make sure that you are comfortable with it first than do it
[21:33] <Vampire-Bill> you wont break anything just might have to reinstall
[21:33] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: have the fun is breaking something and learning how to fix it
[21:33] <guntbert> voyagerlive: ok, so type    apt-cache policy libre-office-writer
[21:34] <Corgi> Vampire-Bill, But the not-so-fun part is that I'm risking money.
[21:34] <basketball> voyagerlive, did my command work
[21:34] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: what money are you risking using windows you have everything backed up
[21:35] <Vampire-Bill> Corgi: you need to read
[21:37] <guest132> I am wondering if I make a ubuntu server version 14 a standalone web server or database server or dns or dhcp or...etc how many clients can uses this server on a large network before I have to start worrying about resources. Assuming I have the top server hardware or a reasonably good hardware that I am running this ubuntu os on ?
[21:38] <clark__> hi,  If I run sudo su I become root, is that normal ?
[21:38] <guest132> I am looking for an approximation is it 10 , 100 , 1000 people some sort of gage so I know when to get another server or start doing clustering/load balancing techquies
[21:38] <svenx> clark__: it's super normal
[21:38] <OerHeks> clark__, yes.
[21:39] <clark__> I don't understand that, I can for example edit the sudo file
[21:39] <svenx> guest132: it depends entirely on the load per request and the frequency and distribution of requests. expect thousands for easy stuff
[21:39] <OerHeks> clark__, he 1st account made during install has root priv, and there are more diff between ubuntu and other linux versions.
[21:39] <OerHeks> he-the
[21:39] <guest132> say accessing a website
[21:40] <guest132> or websites
[21:40] <guntbert> clark__: yes, but usually you type    sudo -i   if you *really* need a root shell (and don't forget to exit as soon as possible)
[21:40] <svenx> guest132: depends on the cost of serving each page. if you add caching (varnish, for example), you could serve loads of users
[21:42] <clark__> OerHeks, yes I running from the first created account in xubuntu, but this must  be a security issue ? should I run from a account that have the same password as root ?
[21:43] <guntbert> !sudo | clark__
[21:43] <OerHeks> clark__, there is no security issue, afaik
[21:44] <OerHeks> clark__, that is the way ubuntu is designed.
[21:44] <guntbert> clark__: the root account is not acrivated by default
[21:44] <guntbert> *activated
[21:44] <guntbert> !root | clark__
[21:44] <guest132> ok but would I be correct in saying in most cases web servers , dns , dhcp , ntp would be relatively much lighter resource wise then file server or database server  interms resources
[21:45] <guest132> intensity
[21:47] <clark__> guntbert,  I get confused ? running "whoami" return "root". Is it something I am restricted to do using this (fake?) root account ?
[21:48] <guest132> so for web server I am looking for a sort of average min / max /range of people it would host if the pages where just static servering. I crap I guess that would depend on the download/upload speeds of the company... so there is many ways to speed up or slow down the resources. But the resources can only be as fast as the weakest link / bottleneck i.e if the server is much faster then the network client computers download/upload spe
[21:48] <guest132> eds , if the router is slowing the process down ,...and much more issues. I guess thats why we have all this snmp and other management Qos tools to
[21:48] <guntbert> clark__: after    sudo su    you really are root - exit that shell and you are "yorself" again, in the future just use    sudo (like ubottu sent to you)
[21:49] <baegle> Oh man. Skype! How much do we love Skype! amiright? What's the way to debug a core dump in the latest version of MonkeyLoving Skype?
[21:50] <guest132> never mind what I wanted is an example of a typical small , medium , and large business/company and what there server / network topology looks like. Is it more like 1 server hosting all the clients services , or 10 , 100 , are most services standalone servers for each services ?
[21:50] <clark__> guntbert, in the link it say "By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as Root directly or use the su command to become the Root user. " I am using su and am root
[21:51] <guest132> Any examples for each or a jpeg of each
[21:52] <guntbert> clark__: thats because you gav *two* commands   -  sudo enables you to type any command with root permissions,  su   calls a shell as root
[21:52] <guntbert> clark__: but you cannot just type   su   to get a root shell
[21:53] <clark__> guntbert,  ok , now I understand what you mean, sorry
[21:53] <guntbert> clark__: no problem :) we learn by asking :)
[21:55] <clark__> guntbert, still is it not strange that you so easy can get so strong permissions ? and what is really the difference between be sudo root and just root.  you can do as much harm as both ?
[21:55] <voyagerlive>  i am trying to extract a tar.gz and i get this error stdin: not in gzip format    tar: Child returned status 1    tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:56] <voyagerlive> do i solve it
[21:57] <rww> voyagerlive: what's the output of "file filename.tar.gz"
[21:57] <guntbert> clark__: it is your computer, isn't it? The sudo mechanism is mainly to remind you when you are doing administrative work - thats why we usually just use sudo <command>, so we get root permissions just for one command
[21:57] <voyagerlive> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[21:57] <voyagerlive> tar: Child returned status 1
[21:57] <voyagerlive> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:57] <voyagerlive> rww
[21:57] <rww> voyagerlive: that's what happens when you type e.g. "file test.tar.gz"?
[21:58] <voyagerlive> rww im trying to install libreoffice... .deb.tar.gz file.. then i get this
[21:58] <voyagerlive> craps
[21:59] <rww> voyagerlive: Libreoffice is in Ubuntu's repositories, just install it from there...
[21:59] <voyagerlive> rww did that already, it desnt show up after install
[21:59] <voyagerlive> i used the sudo apt get install libreoffice
[21:59] <voyagerlive> then it showed installed
[21:59] <voyagerlive> but i dont get it under office menue
[21:59] <clark__> guntbert, ok, so it is more a practical thing,  I think I understand, thanks
[22:00] <rww> voyagerlive: might have to log out and back in or something. the command "localc" (for example) in terminal should work, if you want to test it was installed
[22:00] <voyagerlive> im using voyager linux. 12.04
[22:00] <rww> oh.
[22:00] <guntbert> clark__: You're welcome
[22:00] <rww> voyagerlive: go talk to your distribution for support, then
[22:00] <rww> voyagerlive: we only support actual Ubuntu here
[22:00] <voyagerlive> rww,  its a ubuntu i guess
[22:00] <rww> voyagerlive: it's a derivative of Ubuntu with changes that we don't know about or support
[22:01] <voyagerlive> okk
[22:01] <voyagerlive> thanks
[22:05] <lonewolf11705> hi
[22:05] <loofer> heh
[22:08] <Dragon64> Hello, Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu 14.04 and other varients thereof do not use the dns my router is handing out?
[22:08] <Dragon64> internet works fine, just uses some other dns
[22:08] <daftykins> should do
[22:09] <daftykins> what are you looking at to come to this conclusion?
[22:09] <daftykins> Dragon64: is it because you see 127.0.1.1 in resolv.conf ?
[22:09] <Dragon64> I have a 4 year old and use opendns to block porn and such, blcoks things on windows, but ubuntu can get to these sites fine
[22:09] <Dragon64> tells me somethings up
[22:10] <daftykins> right and did you configure ubuntu with OpenDNS IPs?
[22:10] <Dragon64> no, I am trying to get ubuntu to use the dns settings provided by my router
[22:10] <admin_> hi again, this is clark but I login using another account, using this account I am also able to use "sudo su" and become root.
[22:11] <Dragon64> I could set it up manually, but I want to know why its not working
[22:11] <daftykins> Dragon64: right so you don't know which it's configured with? have a read here - https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[22:11] <Dragon64> has something changed in the way ubuntu handles these things? It worked correctly in 12.04 withot my intervention
[22:11] <daftykins> it's relevant to all versions since 12.04
[22:11] <admin_> now if  I for example want a user to be able to install programs using apt-get but not be able to read content of other users, how do i do that ?
[22:12] <daftykins> admin_: you should never use 'sudo su' - this is not the correct way to switch to root in ubuntu
[22:14] <admin_> daftykins, I know that but the point is that you can, If I want to allow my brother to install programs but not look at my photos in my home folder, how do I do that ?
[22:14] <daftykins> admin_: don't think you can. one begets the other
[22:16] <admin_> daftykins, I can do anything from any account that belong to the sudo group right ?
[22:16] <guest132> typically if one installed a ubuntu server 14 on his large company network as a dedicated web server how many clients on average could access the web page before he would need to create another linux server for that services. This is an all linux server network with clients that could be linux , microsoft , mac , or any unix, or computer operating system as a client
[22:16] <daftykins> i have to go now, nn
[22:16] <daftykins> guest132: ask in the channel of your chosen web server, obviously it depends on the hardware spec
[22:17] <guest132> provided the hardware and the networking routers/switches where at top degree
[22:18] <guest132> some range would it be 10 -100 , 10 -20 , or 10 - 1000 , or 10 - 10000 ?
[22:18] <guest132> some average and you can assume the web site is static
[22:19] <daftykins> guest132: ask in the channel of your chosen web server.
[22:19] <eeee> admin_: you can add apt-get to a list of programs that run as root without asking for the sudo password
[22:19] <fedai_> selam
[22:22] <admin_> eeee, ok thanks, I think I made a mistake then I say sudoers can do anything in other accounts, I actually just see a README file and a "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" file
[22:23] <eeee> admin_: in the terminal type sudo visudo
[22:25] <admin_> eeee, thanks I think I start to grasp this now : )
[22:26] <admin_> *thanks! ,   I think I start to grasp this now : )
[22:27] <Hilikus> it looks like my ubuntu is not refreshing the packages upgrades. every 2 o 3 weeks i get a red icon in the task bar saying "the update information is outdated" if i refresh it by hand there's always a bunch of updates pending. what part triggers these catalog updates??
[22:27] <eeee> admin_: sorry i think it doesn't work, that only lets you run a command without asking for the sudo password, but the user would have to be in the sudo group i think
[22:28] <SchrodingersScat> Hilikus: there should be a 'Software & Updates' in your settings somewhere, one of those tabs should control that.
[22:28] <eeee> admin_: it's usually used if you want to run a job automatically and need to enter the sudo password
[22:28] <ramrebol_> .
[22:29] <ramrebol_> Hi. I have installed ubuntu14.04. All works fine, but after install the nvidia driver (GF 108 M) sugered by ubuntu and reboot the system dont work. How can I solve this without reinstall?
[22:29] <Hilikus> SchrodingersScat: it always says to check for updates daily
[22:29] <Hilikus> it is not doing it though
[22:30] <admin_> eeee, np,  .............    I will continue tomorrow, I am really tired and have to sleep,  thanks again
[22:30] <ramrebol_> the problem is the nvidia driver sugered by ubuntu, so this is a bug :/
[22:30] <SchrodingersScat> Hilikus: but how about when it displays them?  There's a setting for security updates (mine was on immediately) and then regular updates (mine was set to weekly, which sounds like you) ;  although, you can always do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ## and I normally do a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:31] <eeee> admin_: np, nighty
[22:31] <daftykins> ramrebol_: sounds like a laptop?
[22:31] <weems|mac> My mailserver is read only. How do I change it?
[22:32] <ramrebol_> daftykins: yes, is a laptop. I suposse that the problem comes with nvidia-prime
[22:32] <daftykins> ramrebol_: sounds like you've not setup prime correctly, indeed
[22:32] <Guido1> Computer A and B are conected to a switch. The switch is conected to a rooter wich has internet conection. Does A downloads sneller, if B is off instead of downloading too?
[22:33] <daftykins> Guido1: the internet connection is the bottleneck, so of course it will divide the speed.
[22:34] <ramrebol_> I just installed the driver sugered by ubuntu. After that I reboot and now the system us frozen before the loggin screen. Then I dont know how can I setup anything
[22:34] <ramrebol_> daftykins:
[22:34] <daftykins> do TTYs work?
[22:35] <daftykins> ctrl+alt+F1
[22:35] <ramrebol_> yes, now I'm in a terminal (atrl+alt+F1) + irssi
[22:35] <daftykins> so login on TTY2 and run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*"
[22:36] <daftykins> that should restore it to defaults
[22:36] <daftykins> i have to go now, good luck
[22:36] <Guido1> daftykins: the conection from the rooter to the internet is glasfiber, but I was thinking about the one cable between the switch and the rooter
[22:36] <daftykins> Guido1: ##networking might be of more use :) I must go now
[22:36] <ramrebol_> thanks daftykins for the idea.
[22:37] <ramrebol_> daftykins: is done. Now I reboot.
[22:38] <TheGeneral3> how do i tell my brother that i got his girlfriend pregnant?
[22:38] <rww> are you kidding me.
[22:39] <TheGeneral3> rww:  Need support? This is our break room! Try #ubuntu :)
[22:39] <svenx> he could use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
[22:39] <svenx>  "there is a need for understanding but not for vengeance, a need for reparation but not for retaliation, a need for ubuntu but not for victimization"
[22:39] <Guest27929> hello
[22:43] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason my machine freezes when i attach a usb storage device?
[22:43] <bjorkintosh> it never did that under 13.10
[22:50] <luanLH>  /server irc.rizon.net
[23:02] <tola> I was trying to delete pictures from a camera - I could delete a couple at a time sometimes, but sometimes if I tried one or many I would receive the error message that the file system was read only. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[23:05] <Phoenix22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1ALEmBS
[23:06] <ice9> auto screen lock doesn't however that option is selected!
[23:06] <rww> clearcrap
[23:06] <rww> oops
[23:07] <BananaNipples>  i'm thinking about paying for the linux foundation course certificate on EdX. I skipped through the course material and did the final exam and i passed the class. I was wondering if the official certification is worth it? it costs $250, it costed $5000 before they put it on edX. I'm in computer science and want to keep my options open for what I want to do in the future and thought this might look good on a
[23:07] <BananaNipples> beginner level resume. Any advice?
[23:07] <Beldar> heh, not so Freudian slip
[23:08] <rww> Beldar: mine, I assume?
[23:08] <Beldar> rww, Yeah. ;)
[23:08] <rww> Beldar: I have an alias set from that (with / ;) to /scrollback levelclear -level clientcrap,crap,clientnotices,clienterr
[23:08] <rww> but yeah, the name is amusing :)
[23:08] <Beldar> must have been a cli command
[23:09] <Beldar> ah bash
[23:09] <rww> irssi
[23:09] <BananaNipples> nobody can advise me about my question?
[23:10] <Beldar> BananaNipples, Sure, do what YOU feel is right, and this is off topic, any answer at best id subjective.
[23:11] <Beldar> is*
[23:11] <Beldar> BananaNipples, ##linux might give you subjective answers. ;)
[23:11] <BananaNipples> but i don't know if its right or not, i'm a newbie and thought i could get opinions from people who knew better
[23:13] <Ig0r> Hi. Anyone to help me please? How to update skype in Ubuntu. Now not inosible to login... may be need to update.
[23:13] <Beldar> BananaNipples, You you feel most satified if you work through the thinking process grasshopper.
[23:15] <Beldar> Ig0r, Makes you not supported technically here but it seems the skype pages version seems to be the fix at this moment, purge the local if you do this.
[23:15] <alazare619> how do i go about removing network manager and just using network interfaces file to static assign a ip?
[23:15] <noobatron> Oi
[23:15] <[R]> does anyone know why in 14.04 dhcpv6 sends the hostname to the server but in 12.04 it doesnt?
[23:15] <noobatron> I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu Installation on a USB
[23:16] <Beldar> !details | noobatron
[23:16] <noobatron> Downloaded that penguin USB converter thing a bob
[23:16] <noobatron> but the Ubuntu ISO file says missing in it
[23:16] <noobatron> Missing files
[23:17] <Beldar> noobatron, Handful of usb loaders try till one works. Try to post all the details in a batch not spread around in single posts
[23:18] <Beldar> noobatron, If you name the OS your building I I can give you a few to try.
[23:18] <Beldar> in*
[23:18] <Ig0r> Beldar: now im try co login, but i see this "Server connect filde" Skype version 2.2.0.35
[23:19] <Beldar> Ig0r, That is really old what ubuntu release is this?
[23:19] <ramrebol> I have ubuntu 14.04, but I can't install nvidia driver (sugered by ubuntu) to my nvidia GF108M (GeForce GT 525M). Has anyone help me?  I suposse that is a bug
[23:19] <noobatron> I'll try with this start up disk thingie
[23:20] <Ig0r> hot to update Beldar :) give me more info please. i want to update only skype!!!
[23:20] <Beldar> Ig0r, Need to know your release, if your eol you are not calling the correct repos.
[23:21] <Beldar> Ig0r, You can find the skype website right?
[23:21] <ramrebol> the system keep frozen just before the loggin windows appears (alter install the nvidia driver)
[23:22] <Ig0r> Beldar: may be yes.
[23:22] <OerHeks> Ig0r, skype 4.3 update 1-8-2014 is in the repos, for supported ubuntu versions.
[23:22] <Beldar> ramrebol, A little details in the form of cause and effect helps in your inquiry. To the channel not me.
[23:23] <Beldar> Ig0r, I think may be might be a better nick for yah. ;)
[23:24] <ramrebol> I have ubuntu 14.04. All works fine, but after install the nvidia driver sugered by ubuntu (nvidia GF108M (GeForce GT 525M))  the system keep frozen just before the loggin windows appears. How can I install this driver?
[23:24] <ramrebol> this is a bug?
[23:25] <OerHeks> GT 525M sounds like dual gpu
[23:26] <ramrebol> OerHeks: I suposse :/
[23:31] <happyfr0gg> Hello, I am back.
[23:32] <happyfr0gg> I found a bit of technical genius concerning Ubuntu Live boot images that I would like to share. Any takers???
[23:33] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Your role here is help or be helped on actual issues like the rest of us, make a blog or something. ;)
[23:34] <happyfr0gg> To revive an installed Ubuntu via a live cd/usb and mount the installed system INTO your Live system and work with it as if you had actually booted it, go  here...http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7937463/
[23:35] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, YOU have reloaded the mbr from a chroot, congratulations, done in countable times here daily.
[23:36] <Beldar>  you would run the update after the install by the way
[23:38] <happyfr0gg> Beldar - what do you mean by me reloading the mbr (Master Boot Record) from a chroot?
[23:38] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, That is what your paste is.
[23:39] <happyfr0gg> Oh.
[23:39] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, YOU chrooted to the install and put the grub from it into the nbr sda
[23:39] <Beldar> mbr*
[23:40] <Beldar> good skill to have though, good for you. ;)
[23:41] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Did you fix the stack install or is this the new install?
[23:42] <DJJeff> SKYPE 4.3 FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:42] <DJJeff> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
[23:42]  * DJJeff jumps up and down really fast till faints
[23:43] <happyfr0gg> Beldar - I have yet to fix the stack install. I have been doing tons of reading about it.  No new installation.
[23:43] <Matt23423> TJ: are you here?  This is matt from last night
[23:43] <happyfr0gg> Lol. Well, the paste just allows me to mount my installed system into the LiveCD/USB so I can try to fix the stack install I completed a few days ago.
[23:43] <gremlyn> just upgraded my htpc to 14.04 from 12.04 and now I have no desktop
[23:44] <ajay_> ?????????
[23:44] <gremlyn> I tried killing Xorg via CLI and selecting gnome instead of Ubuntu, and just loads to the background and that's it
[23:44] <gremlyn> no menu bars, no windows, no right click context menu, just a mouse pointer and a background
[23:45] <gremlyn> tried it under my user and guest user user too, just to be sure
[23:46] <WilsonMhmm> Can someone help me understand why Ubuntu throws up "Input/ Output" errors when copying data to USB? Is this a USB problem... A Ubuntu problem?
[23:47] <happyfr0gg> Thanks to this piece of advice, I can see some light at the once dark tunnel to my problem.  :-)
[23:47] <happyfr0gg> * end
[23:47] <WilsonMhmm> Sometimes only part of the file is copied sometimes none at all or sometimes all is copied.
[23:50] <Rallias> Is there an RSS feed to watch for package updates to a specific package?
[23:52] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, That chroot puts you in the root terminal in the install so yes you could theoretically fix it.
[23:53] <DJJeff> I need help with cross compile gcc... how do I CC for armv4 ?
[23:53] <Beldar> Rallias, Not a rss feed probably but checking the repos would work.
[23:54] <Rallias> Ok... is there a way to get notified if I'm not on a ubuntu computer of specific package updates?
[23:54] <Beldar> Rallias, An update -dist-upgrade apt-get style will tekk yah
[23:54] <alazare619> i only have ssh access to my server currently
[23:54] <Beldar> alazare619, And?
[23:54] <alazare619> how do i remove network-manager and have it re initalize over ssh
[23:54] <Rallias> So basically DIY.
[23:54] <Rallias> Gotchya.
[23:55] <happyfr0gg> Beldar - yes. Once I initiate these sequence of commands, I could theoretically use the graphics stack that is included on the LiveCD (not my laptop) and be able to use Unity, Uopdate Manager or Synaptic Package Manager to install the CORRECT files.
[23:56] <happyfr0gg> Thus fixing the missing Unity log in screen issue that I and so many other Ubuntu 12.04+ users have experienced.
[23:56] <alazare619> sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager (ive already configured /etc/network/interfaces) && sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[23:56] <WilsonMhmm> Any ideas, I find it hard to believe three USB devices are damaged resulting in failed copies of data but work fine with another OS.
[23:56] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Not exactly correct, your in the root of the install the desktop is the live, yes you could load apps from the install, kinda a cumbersome approach a re-install would fix.
[23:57] <Beldar> WilsonMhmm, sure ncorrupted fat or ntfs will make it a linux problem.
[23:57] <Beldar> corrupted*
[23:57] <happyfr0gg> Wow. My head exploded.
[23:57] <alazare619> Beldar, does that seem correct?
[23:57] <Beldar> alazare619, No idea.
[23:58] <Beldar> happyfr0gg, Heh, gather it up and keep going, you are learning. ;)
[23:58] <happyfr0gg> I don't want to reinstall since I don't have a backup.