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bluesabreUnit193: good question09:41
ochosii'm wondering what to do about the community-submitted wallpapers from 14.04 in 14.1011:00
ochosinot sure we simply wanna install them again by default, or whether we just leave the package in the repos for those who want it11:01
bluesabrewe run another contest11:01
ochosiphu, not sure i have the energy for another contest11:02
elfythen if not I think there's no reason to not use the same ones again ;)11:02
ochosiwell depends, that was a frequent point of criticism (even if it's hard for me to take it too seriously) that we only ship so few wallpapers by default11:03
ochosii really don't wanna do wallpaper contests every release, that's exhausting and the results will hardly be great every time11:03
elfybut with the comm ones we ship more now don't we?11:04
elfymaybe carry on with the 14.04 ones - if people want to do more they can talk to us 11:04
ochosiyeah11:05
ochosiah, i misread you there before11:05
elfyanyway - I'm not really here - keep almost going11:05
* ochosi facepalms11:05
ochosii thought you said there's no reason to use the same ones again11:05
elfyyea - thought so - which is why I said it slightly differently :)11:05
ochosiguess i need a coffee or some rest, can't decide11:05
elfyor both ;)11:05
elfylittle one now decides she's ready ... bye11:05
bluesabreis there an easier way to do it?  Seems like using the wiki put a lot of workload on you guys11:06
bluesabreanyway, it doesn't really matter to me either way ;)11:07
ochosinot only that, there were many crappy submissions and i partly hunted down people who would submit stuff11:07
ochosinow that 14.04 is released, i can disclose that most walls we voted in were those i found online before and got the authors to submit them11:08
ochosi(well i guess most of you knew that anyway)11:09
bluesabre:)11:09
ochosibut the voting also took a lot of time11:09
ochosiwe went through 3 rounds, which was good, but also tiresome11:09
ochosiand agreed, the wiki made submissions and everything a lot of work, but it also had its benefits11:12
bluesabreNoskcaj: For some reason I cannot inject a new mugshot package into debian... I've got the package here if you want to give it a shot (and not have to package it yourself)12:16
bluesabredget http://www.smdavis.us/tmp/mugshot_0.2.4-1.dsc12:16
ochosibluesabre: i discussed this with satya a few minutes ago, in 14.10 we'll retire albatross12:59
ochosiso only greybird, numix, orion and possibly bluebird will remain12:59
bluesabreok, fine by me13:00
* ochosi downloads utopic daily build13:02
ochosiyou've split the shimmer-themes package into individual packages already, right?13:03
ochosiif so, feel free to drop albatross anytime13:03
bluesabreyes13:04
ochosiwhat about the daily-archive? should that be updated with the new packaging too then?13:06
bluesabrethe ppa?13:07
ochosiyup, this one. https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily13:08
bluesabreyeah, its split already too13:08
bluesabrefor utopic13:08
ochosioh13:08
bluesabrekeeping all of our themes in that one13:08
bluesabreso blackbird and albatross will stay there in case they are ever resurrected13:08
ochosibasically depends on new contributors picking that up13:09
bluesabreyup13:09
ochosidon't see myself doing that :>13:09
bluesabreugh, so many differences for builds to work on older gtk13:11
ochosifor what, parole 0.7?13:11
bluesabreoh wait13:11
bluesabrewhy is it pulling gtk2?13:11
bluesabre:\13:11
ochosihuh fun13:11
bluesabreI really disliked 13.10 for all the upstream issues13:12
bluesabreI went 13.04 -> 14.0413:12
ochosiyeah, never upgraded my gf's laptop to 13.10 and used 14.04 from its early stages13:12
ochosihm nice, the installer for utopic failed :/13:14
ochosi(partitioner)13:15
ochosifor some reason the menu separators don't look very nice in gtk3 in utopic13:18
bluesabreguess its time for me to start running utopic fulltime to nag you13:19
ochosiheh, well actually satya said he'd take care of the gtk3.12 transition13:20
ochosiso you can nag him then ;)13:20
bluesabreok13:21
bluesabreI've got a feeling that everything else is on standby until the numix sass conversion is done then?13:22
bluesabre(or whatever that thing is called)13:22
bluesabre:)13:22
* ochosi asks13:23
ochosihm, so x-d-s 14.04.5 fixed the black screen bug, right?13:23
bluesabreprobably13:24
bluesabreit sets the setting anyway13:24
bluesabreunless lls is not started correctly or something13:24
ochosii'm drafting the article you and i were supposed to write on the subject for the blog13:24
bluesabreah cool13:24
ochosihttp://xubuntu.org/?p=2656&preview=true13:29
ochosibluesabre: lemme know what you think, this is a very quick draft ^13:32
bluesabrelooks good13:37
bluesabreTitle could use some work13:37
bluesabre;)13:37
ochosifeel free to just edit13:37
ochosii mean all of it, then hit publish ;)13:37
bluesabreok, I'll be sure to get to that today13:38
ochosigreat13:38
ochosiso the sass port will happen for after 14.1013:38
ochosiour themes will get 3.12 support on the current code base13:39
bluesabreah, I see13:39
bluesabrewow, that is really a huge undertaking then13:39
ochosiyeah, basically a rewrite13:40
ochosinot much fun13:40
ochosione of those things where you invest lots of time and effort, hoping that the code will become more maintainable13:40
bluesabreyup, been there/done that ;)13:40
bluesabrehm, the daily iso seems rather unstable atm13:41
bluesabrein my vm, it almost starts, then I get a really wide black screen13:41
bluesabreooh progress13:42
ochosion what?13:43
bluesabrehttps://imgur.com/Evyg3dQ13:43
ochosihehe, looks flashy13:44
ochosimeh, installer always crashes at the partitioning step :(13:49
ochosibtw, i think i need to draw a different icon for the "plugged in" state in the power-manager's plugin13:50
bluesabreyes13:50
ochosithat lightning doesn't really cut it for me13:50
bluesabre:)13:50
bluesabrethis could be a new default wallpaper https://imgur.com/2JOX8VB13:51
ochosi+113:51
ochosi:D13:51
ochosiwee, finally managed to jump across that buggy partitioner13:52
ochosiso it's installing13:52
pleia2nice post15:18
pleia2social mediaed it15:20
ochosithanks pleia2 17:06
ochosibluesabre: i just pushed two of the icons that seemed too large in your utopic appmenu screenshot18:31
ochosiplease check whether there18:31
ochosiare more18:31
ochosi(if possible)18:31
bluesabreochosi: I'll work on putting a list together as I find them18:35
ochosicool, thanks18:38
ochosiso i fixed the keyboard-settings icon and jockey18:38
bluesabrecool, I'll check those out a bit later.. heading out to see a movie18:45
bluesabrebbl18:45
Unit193bluesabre: Speaking of which, in your packages in Debian, why isn't PAPT maintainer and both of you uploaders?20:30
knomei guess we could have a section on xubuntu-restricted-extras on the documentation22:55
ochosisounds like a good idea to me22:57

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