[09:41] Unit193: good question [11:00] i'm wondering what to do about the community-submitted wallpapers from 14.04 in 14.10 [11:01] not sure we simply wanna install them again by default, or whether we just leave the package in the repos for those who want it [11:01] we run another contest [11:02] phu, not sure i have the energy for another contest [11:02] then if not I think there's no reason to not use the same ones again ;) [11:03] well depends, that was a frequent point of criticism (even if it's hard for me to take it too seriously) that we only ship so few wallpapers by default [11:03] i really don't wanna do wallpaper contests every release, that's exhausting and the results will hardly be great every time [11:04] but with the comm ones we ship more now don't we? [11:04] maybe carry on with the 14.04 ones - if people want to do more they can talk to us [11:05] yeah [11:05] ah, i misread you there before [11:05] anyway - I'm not really here - keep almost going [11:05] * ochosi facepalms [11:05] i thought you said there's no reason to use the same ones again [11:05] yea - thought so - which is why I said it slightly differently :) [11:05] guess i need a coffee or some rest, can't decide [11:05] or both ;) [11:05] little one now decides she's ready ... bye [11:06] is there an easier way to do it? Seems like using the wiki put a lot of workload on you guys [11:07] anyway, it doesn't really matter to me either way ;) [11:07] not only that, there were many crappy submissions and i partly hunted down people who would submit stuff [11:08] now that 14.04 is released, i can disclose that most walls we voted in were those i found online before and got the authors to submit them [11:09] (well i guess most of you knew that anyway) [11:09] :) [11:09] but the voting also took a lot of time [11:09] we went through 3 rounds, which was good, but also tiresome [11:12] and agreed, the wiki made submissions and everything a lot of work, but it also had its benefits [12:16] Noskcaj: For some reason I cannot inject a new mugshot package into debian... I've got the package here if you want to give it a shot (and not have to package it yourself) [12:16] dget http://www.smdavis.us/tmp/mugshot_0.2.4-1.dsc [12:59] bluesabre: i discussed this with satya a few minutes ago, in 14.10 we'll retire albatross [12:59] so only greybird, numix, orion and possibly bluebird will remain [13:00] ok, fine by me [13:02] * ochosi downloads utopic daily build [13:03] you've split the shimmer-themes package into individual packages already, right? [13:03] if so, feel free to drop albatross anytime [13:04] yes [13:06] what about the daily-archive? should that be updated with the new packaging too then? [13:07] the ppa? [13:08] yup, this one. https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily [13:08] yeah, its split already too [13:08] for utopic [13:08] oh [13:08] keeping all of our themes in that one [13:08] so blackbird and albatross will stay there in case they are ever resurrected [13:09] basically depends on new contributors picking that up [13:09] yup [13:09] don't see myself doing that :> [13:11] ugh, so many differences for builds to work on older gtk [13:11] for what, parole 0.7? [13:11] oh wait [13:11] why is it pulling gtk2? [13:11] :\ [13:11] huh fun [13:12] I really disliked 13.10 for all the upstream issues [13:12] I went 13.04 -> 14.04 [13:12] yeah, never upgraded my gf's laptop to 13.10 and used 14.04 from its early stages [13:14] hm nice, the installer for utopic failed :/ [13:15] (partitioner) [13:18] for some reason the menu separators don't look very nice in gtk3 in utopic [13:19] guess its time for me to start running utopic fulltime to nag you [13:20] heh, well actually satya said he'd take care of the gtk3.12 transition [13:20] so you can nag him then ;) [13:21] ok [13:22] I've got a feeling that everything else is on standby until the numix sass conversion is done then? [13:22] (or whatever that thing is called) [13:22] :) [13:23] * ochosi asks [13:23] hm, so x-d-s 14.04.5 fixed the black screen bug, right? [13:24] probably [13:24] it sets the setting anyway [13:24] unless lls is not started correctly or something [13:24] i'm drafting the article you and i were supposed to write on the subject for the blog [13:24] ah cool [13:29] http://xubuntu.org/?p=2656&preview=true [13:32] bluesabre: lemme know what you think, this is a very quick draft ^ [13:37] looks good [13:37] Title could use some work [13:37] ;) [13:37] feel free to just edit [13:37] i mean all of it, then hit publish ;) [13:38] ok, I'll be sure to get to that today [13:38] great [13:38] so the sass port will happen for after 14.10 [13:39] our themes will get 3.12 support on the current code base [13:39] ah, I see [13:39] wow, that is really a huge undertaking then [13:40] yeah, basically a rewrite [13:40] not much fun [13:40] one of those things where you invest lots of time and effort, hoping that the code will become more maintainable [13:40] yup, been there/done that ;) [13:41] hm, the daily iso seems rather unstable atm [13:41] in my vm, it almost starts, then I get a really wide black screen [13:42] ooh progress [13:43] on what? [13:43] https://imgur.com/Evyg3dQ [13:44] hehe, looks flashy [13:49] meh, installer always crashes at the partitioning step :( [13:50] btw, i think i need to draw a different icon for the "plugged in" state in the power-manager's plugin [13:50] yes [13:50] that lightning doesn't really cut it for me [13:50] :) [13:51] this could be a new default wallpaper https://imgur.com/2JOX8VB [13:51] +1 [13:51] :D [13:52] wee, finally managed to jump across that buggy partitioner [13:52] so it's installing [15:18] nice post [15:20] social mediaed it [17:06] thanks pleia2 [18:31] bluesabre: i just pushed two of the icons that seemed too large in your utopic appmenu screenshot [18:31] please check whether there [18:31] are more [18:31] (if possible) [18:35] ochosi: I'll work on putting a list together as I find them [18:38] cool, thanks [18:38] so i fixed the keyboard-settings icon and jockey [18:45] cool, I'll check those out a bit later.. heading out to see a movie [18:45] bbl [20:30] bluesabre: Speaking of which, in your packages in Debian, why isn't PAPT maintainer and both of you uploaders? [22:55] i guess we could have a section on xubuntu-restricted-extras on the documentation [22:57] sounds like a good idea to me