[00:06] <dr_jkl> hum.
[00:07] <dr_jkl> my brightness keys do not work. if i add 'acpi_osi=!' to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, the buttons work because I see the OSD for the brightness slider, but it doesn't actually _do_ anything...
[00:08]  * dr_jkl considers where to go from here
[00:27] <dr_jkl> aha, i know why it doesn't work. i just don't know what to do about it
[00:46] <dr_jkl> i was able to get my machine's brightness keys working by passing 'acpi_osi=' via grub but now, on my system i have acpi_video0 and intel_backlight in /sys/class/backlight. and the brightness keys are trying to manipulate acpi_video0 and not intel_backlight...
[00:46] <dr_jkl> hmm.
[00:48] <dr_jkl> if i use acpi_backlight=video i get the same thing, acpi_backlight=vendor gives me a totally new additional path instead of acpi_video0 *and* the brightness keys don't work...
[00:48] <dr_jkl> i have a feeling i am missing something silly.
[01:03] <zacwalls> trying to connect a nook 1.7.0 to xubuntu 13.04 and it doesn't recognize nook as a device. what do you suggest i do?
[01:03] <dr_jkl> lsusb doesnt see it?
[01:04] <zacwalls> yws
[01:04] <zacwalls> yes
[01:04] <dr_jkl> it does?
[01:04] <dr_jkl> or it doesn't
[01:05] <zacwalls> it will charge
[01:05] <zacwalls> only
[01:05] <dr_jkl> this may sound silly but have you tried a different usb cable?
[01:05] <zacwalls> no
[01:05] <dr_jkl> try that first
[01:05] <zacwalls> okay i will be back soon
[01:11] <zacwalls> dr_jkl
[01:11] <zacwalls> hi i try and same
[01:12] <dr_jkl> does dmsg show you trying to plug in the device?
[01:12] <zacwalls> no
[01:12] <dr_jkl> you using the front usb ports on your machine or the rear?
[01:12] <zacwalls> front
[01:13] <dr_jkl> try a rear port
[01:13] <zacwalls> okay
[01:13] <dr_jkl> then check lsusb
[01:13] <zacwalls> same
[01:14] <zacwalls> and usb is intact
[01:14] <dr_jkl> hmm.
[01:15] <dr_jkl> is your nook in usb mode?
[01:15] <dr_jkl> i know on my old nook it had to be in usb storage mode to be seen
[01:15] <zacwalls> ---___--- how would i do that?
[01:15] <dr_jkl> -i'm not sure
[01:15] <dr_jkl> depends on the nook and i don't have one handy
[01:16] <zacwalls> aha
[01:16] <zacwalls> that must be it
[01:18] <dr_jkl> its probably going to be under settings in your nook somewhere
[01:20] <zacwalls> i been looking there
[02:14] <zacwalls> how do i access administrator on a user through terminal i need updates
[02:14] <zacwalls> i still boot 13.04
[02:19] <xangua> !eol | zacwalls
[02:20] <xangua> it would be faster a clean install of 14.04 or 12.04
[02:25] <zacwalls> how
[02:26] <zacwalls> xangua please explain
[02:27] <xangua> zacwalls: how what? explain what?
[02:27] <xangua> 13.04 es EOL, End Of Life, no updates no support
[02:32] <zacwalls> okay
[02:32] <zacwalls> xangua can i use a cd-R?
[02:33] <xangua> zacwalls: xubuntu iso doesn't fit on a CD, use either a DVD or USB stick
[02:55]  * dr_jkl grumbles and puts her faith in askubuntu
[03:20] <cyclo> I'm having an issue with audio over HDMI, it crackles and stutters constantly. Been googling for a full day trying different suggestions but nothing seems to work.
[03:21] <Kekai> I purged a progra off my PC, then reinstalled it, but it's not showing up where my programs show up.
[03:21] <Kekai> I have to type the full name and click "Run Quassel"
[03:22] <Kekai> How can I have it show up in my menu so I can favorite it
[08:05] <xubuntu688> Buongiorno, qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[08:09] <elfy> !it | xubuntu688
[08:11] <xubuntu450> I would like to know how for the mouse single clic on xubuntu , thanks  8-)
[08:29] <wulong710> hello. My laptop always disconnect internet , with error "ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x18f!". My  network adapter is AR9287. Anyone had met with this situation?
[09:47] <xubuntu429> hello?
[09:48] <xubuntu429> I have a question regarding Xubuntu 14.04...    after upgrading
[09:48] <xubuntu429> from 10.04 to 12.04  I can't creat a USB Stick with a casper-rw file
[09:49] <gabkdlly> xubuntu429: hi
[09:49] <xubuntu429> hi
[09:50] <gabkdlly> xubuntu429: I have often had trouble with the startup disk creator, so I have taken to using unetbootin.
[09:51] <gabkdlly> xubuntu429: I don't know how much difference it makes, but I also usually erase my USB stick with gparted before installing the live system.
[09:52] <xubuntu429> Startup Disk Creator... enables persistance if i select the 10.04 iso, but not the 14.04 iso...       UNETbootin
[09:52] <xubuntu429> ah...
[09:53] <xubuntu429> the "preserve files" option will create a persistance file... yes?
[09:53] <gabkdlly> yes
[09:54] <gabkdlly> Another thing I have observed: you don't want to update a live system, because if the kernel gets updated, strange things happen.
[09:54] <xubuntu429> trying that now.  Thanks for the unetbootin tip...  had not used that since I switched from SAM Linux to (x)Ubuntu 9.04
[09:55] <xubuntu429> have a good day!  thanks for the great help
[09:55] <gabkdlly> cheers
[09:55] <xubuntu429> yeah, cheers... think I will go pour myself a belgian black ale, great idea
[09:57] <xubuntu429> it worked!
[09:58] <xubuntu429> nothing like starting the day early!
[09:58] <xubuntu429> ten four
[10:26] <mediatomb> hi people, i just have installed the latest xubuntu onto my htcp along with xbmc. my question is how do I land straight into xbmc other than starting xbmc from xfce
[10:26] <mediatomb> ??
[10:28] <ochosi> easiest way is probably a session autostart item
[10:28] <ochosi> settings manager > sessions and startup > autostart
[10:29] <mediatomb> okchosi: ok, but does that bring me straight from the xubuntu boot splash into xbmc?
[10:29] <ochosi> well straight, there might be a bit of delay, but it should work
[10:30] <mediatomb> okchosi: is there a method of achieving that?
[10:30] <ochosi> i guess you could create a separate xbmc session if that's the only thing you wanna run
[10:30] <ochosi> at least i think that can be done, google is your friend, i haven't tried myself
[10:30] <mediatomb> okchosi: ok thanks. I'll try out your method first
[10:31] <ochosi> btw, no need to misspell my nick
[10:31] <mediatomb> ochosi: sry, everything is waaayy smaller when you have a 40" screen :)
[10:34] <ochosi> :)
[14:34] <xubuntu447> hello everyone!
[14:36] <xubuntu447>  I tried to install xubuntu wit existing win xp, but on the screen that I supposed to choose the assigned partition to xubuntu, the "install now" button is inactive
[14:37] <ochosi> xubuntu447: can you post a screenshot?
[14:37] <Kagee> xubuntu447: i suspect you have not selected / as the mountpoint for the xubuntu partition, but a screenshot/photo would be nice.
[14:39] <xubuntu447> I'm using the machine right now, unfortunatly I didn't think of making a photo, I could try again, and come back later
[14:40] <ochosi> sounds good
[14:41] <xubuntu447> ok, I will be back. thx
[14:53] <manish> HP ProBook 4540s --- Xubuntu 14.04 --- brightness is always max, cannot change ---- searched whole net, xrandr works, but xbacklight doesn't --- is it a bug or a fault of the laptop?
[14:55] <holstein> manish: i wouldnt think it was a hardware failure, unless i loaded up an officially supported operating system, and the brightness controls didnt work.. could be grahpics driver support related, since the manufacturer likely doesnt promise you can use linux on the machine.. i would start there, and even experiement with live CD's using different kernels.. (12.04, for example)
[14:58] <manish> thanks...
[14:58] <manish> it is my friend's problem, and i was telling him to wait for 14.10 :p
[14:59] <holstein> manish: well, hp doesnt promise *any* linux support, so you cant assume a newer kernel will be able to support it either.. but, 14.10 is available to download and test
[15:00] <manish> um... and i have a lenovo thinkpad and i also have a "similar-but-smaller" problem... my birghtness is always reset to max on reboot
[15:01] <holstein> live CD's are handy way to try other kernels and drivers on particular hardware, but, for that case, i would expect to load a proprietary driver.. and if the user is not using a proprietary driver (assuming one is available) i would try that
[15:01] <manish> he did install a proprietary driver, but to no improvement
[15:02] <manish> holstein: Which manufacturers have a very good support for linux?
[15:03] <holstein> there are many versions of that driver, plus, versions of the open driver.. basically, when you buy a machine like that, a team of profesionals work to make sure a supported operating system (usually windows in this case) works.. when one decides to run *any* operating system the manufacturer doesnt support, one is taking on that burden of support
[15:03] <xangua> more like the other way around
[15:03] <holstein> manish: *any* manufacturer is welcome, and encouraged.. and able to support linux
[15:03] <holstein> its all open..
[15:04] <holstein> i would suggest, if linux support is a goal, to go with something like system76, where, they will provide and guarantee linux support..
[15:05] <manish> system76.... never heard of it
[15:05] <holstein> manish: there are many linux resellers.. im just saying, if linux support is the main goal, i personally suggest buying with that in mind
[15:06] <xubuntu333> hello, I'm the one who had problems installing xubuntu. I'm uploading the screenshots to dropbox now
[15:07] <holstein> xubuntu333: i usually start by testing hardware.. test the memory and the hard drive.. and go from there.. sometimes, i'll see xp era machine with "issues" that are related to hardware failure, that installing linux cant address.. can that be the case for you?
[15:07] <manish> I see many Dell laptops come with Ubuntu default. Does that mean they support ubuntu fully?
[15:07] <holstein> manish: ask them
[15:08] <holstein> manish: to ask ubuntu "do you support dell?" is a little backwards, i feel.. ubuntu is completely open, and dell, or anyone can support it
[15:08] <manish> holstein: thanks
[15:09] <xubuntu333> holstein, xubuntu runs on it as a live cd, could it still be a hardware issue? If so, why does not say something the installer?
[15:10] <xubuntu333> here are the screenshots https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5mo8o1ak6ixk4dw/AAAPJvVypNBT9JFBe-Tvmdg4a
[15:10] <holstein> xubuntu333: running from the live CD bypasses the internal hard drive, so, yes.. the hard drive could still be broken, or breaking.. have you tested for that?
[15:11] <holstein> xubuntu333: the reason im suggesting it may not be a problem with the installer is simply because the installer does work for most.. and has worked for me.. and in cases where it hasnt, it has been failing hardware..
[15:11] <xubuntu333> no, i haven't tested. How should I do that? Are the screenshots any help
[15:11] <xubuntu333> ?
[15:12] <holstein> xubuntu333: first thing.. i would have backups of *any* and *all* data that is "important" to me on the drive.. then, i would use the live CD to run a few tests on the hard drive.. gsmartcontrol is what i usually use
[15:13] <xubuntu333> also, the select drive select control at the last screen does not allow me to select anything else.
[15:13] <holstein> xubuntu333: then, i would use gparted to resize my window partition (to be more specific, i would at this point remove XP, personally, since its EOL)
[15:14] <holstein> xubuntu333: sure.. i understand.. have you tried testing the hard drive? have you tried manually resizing with gparted?
[15:15] <holstein> at this point, assuming the hard drive is "ok" and the partition resized, i would then use the live installer to specify the empty space on the disk to install to.. or manually partition with gparted if that fails and install manually
[15:17] <xubuntu333> no, i haven't tested anything. I have tried to create the partitions with the installer earlyer, but when I tried to create a 3GB swap partition, it showd the "loading" mouse symbol for more then an hour, so I switched my computer off and restarted the install, this time i wanted to leave everything to the installer
[15:18] <holstein> xubuntu333: sure.. that sounds, personally, indicitive of hardware failure.. please test the hard drive, and try following the loose outline above
[15:19] <xubuntu333> ok. I will do the tests. (I don't want to get rid of win xp, until i get linux working.)
[15:20] <holstein> xubuntu333: you need to have xp backed up, regardless.. and should be planning for failure
[15:23] <xubuntu333> fortunatly i don't have any valuable files on this computer. My current computer is dieing, until I can afford to buy a new one, I'm planning to use this old machine.
[15:24] <holstein> xubuntu333: you will backup what you need from that drive, if that is the xp install, then  back that up.. image it, with something like clonezilla
[15:24] <holstein> xubuntu333: its not a question if "if" the drive will fail.. it may or may not be that the drive has failed, or is failing, but it *will* fail at some point, so backup what you need
[15:25] <xubuntu333> ok, thanks
[16:11] <abanabee7> if you have an LVM, and you split the drive into to logical volumes,m how do you get it so the 2nd logical volume shows a real name?
[16:59] <nikolam> even Firefox is defaut browser everywhere, apport-gtk opens google chrome I have installed, when it wants to report bug and log in launchpad
[16:59] <nikolam> I am reporting Thunerbird crashing for some reason
[17:00] <nikolam> also Right click on link - open in new tab in Firefox, does not work every other time. It started doing that in recent Firefox update
[17:03] <Church> abanabee7: can you rephrase your question a bit more clearly?
[17:04] <Church> as to what is real name - logical volume's name? or you wish to list what logical volumes are created on drive (physical volume that is)?
[17:05] <abanabee7> Church: sure. I installed xubuntu using LVM, Logical Volume Management. Thunar shows it's name just as 351 GB Volume, but it's real name is Stranger
[17:05] <abanabee7> I would like Thunar  to display "Stranger" in the DEVICES list on the side
[17:06] <Church> i see. that probably is that thunar app specific, what it chooses to display
[17:06] <abanabee7> Where would I go, or what should I change to get it to display the name I want
[17:08] <abanabee7> If I click properties it shows it's proper name, but the name in the side panel is still that 351 GB Volume. When more devices are attached it gets confusing. Any ideas?
[17:24] <Church> you should ask thunar developers on fs display code or submit feature request
[17:30] <xubuntu824> hi everyone
[17:35] <Funker> hi ! im install now xubuntu
[17:37] <Guest57879> what's a good memory monitor for xubuntu?
[18:49] <abanabee7> Guest57879: Personally i use the xfce4-systemload-plugin 1.1.1 to monitor my memory, RAM
[19:27] <Guido1> hello, soon I will be in a network which supports gigabit ethernet. Are there specific requirements needed to use it like a minimum amount of RAM or processor speed?
[19:32] <deshipu> no
[19:50] <luke-xubuntu> Can anyone give me some help? I'm running Xubuntu 14.04.1 on my MacBook 6,1 (Nvidia GeForce 9400m graphics card), and while everything seems to be okay, every time I close my laptop lid, and come back later and open the laptop, it allows me to log in, but then once I log in, the screen appears to show a graphics crash (i think so anyway), and the screen is just covered in glitches, and I have to reset the computer to get it back
[19:50] <luke-xubuntu> I have installed most recent graphics drivers for the card I'm using by the way (304.117) so i'm wuite stuck
[19:50] <luke-xubuntu> please sorry for my bad english as well
[20:08] <abanabee7> luke-xubuntu: that is a bug that is happeing from the most recent point update from what i can tell
[20:09] <abanabee7> darn, he left already, i didnt see that
[22:26] <msev> hey guys
[22:26] <msev> having trouble getting some data from a serial adapter
[22:26] <msev> I'm thinking its a baudrate issue
[22:27] <msev> since I get the data in a windows app
[22:28] <msev> what would u guys suggest
[22:28] <deshipu> try a different baud rate?
[22:28] <msev> yeah
[22:29] <msev> when I tried sudo stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 2400 it just closes after I press enter
[22:29] <msev> > logfile (I get nothing)
[22:29] <deshipu> what's the exit code?
[22:30] <msev> huh?
[22:30] <msev> exit code?
[22:31] <msev> brb
[22:31] <deshipu> do the command, then do 'echo $?'
[22:31] <msevph> Back
[22:32] <msevph> Its a cp2102 adapter
[22:32] <Guido1> Computer A and B are conected to a switch. The switch is conected to a rooter wich has internet conection. Does A downloads sneller, if B is off instead of downloading too?
[22:37] <knome> Guido1, that depends.
[22:38] <Cobalt> Hey
[22:38] <Guido1> knome: the conection from the rooter to the internet is glasfiber, but I was thinking about the one cable between the switch and the rooter
[22:38] <Guest27929> n
[22:38] <Guido1> knome: on what does it depend?
[22:38] <Guest27929> Goddamnit
[22:38] <knome> Guest27929, please remember this is a family-friendly channel
[22:38] <Guest27929> Stupid nickname server
[22:38] <Guest27929> fine
[22:39] <Guest27929> does anyone know how to start an IRC sever
[22:39] <Guest27929> sever
[22:39] <Guest27929> i fail to see how damn is a bad word
[22:39] <Unit193> Guest27929: What do you mean?  Trying to run your own ircd?  Which one?
[22:39] <Guest27929> ohhh
[22:39] <knome> Guido1, that cable has it's limits; if the computers do not reach that limit while both downloading, then there is no performance issue...
[22:40] <Guest27929> okay
[22:40] <Guest27929> thanks
[22:40] <Guest27929> I love this IRC client
[22:40] <knome> Guest27929, are you sure you aren't confusing IRC servers and channels?
[22:40] <Guest27929> yes
[22:40] <Guest27929> i am
[22:41] <Guest27929> its is Zubuntu or X-Ubuntu
[22:41] <Guido1> knome: it's a cat 6 cable, gigabit switch and rooter. atleast computer A has gigabit ethernet. (Maybe computer B too). downloading some GB
[22:41] <knome> Guest27929, then please explain me how does the IRC client you are using is relevant to selecting an ircd?
[22:41] <Guest27929> are the red names Admins?
[22:42] <Unit193> Guest27929: They are the ones saying 'Guest27929'
[22:42] <knome> Guido1, you are asking very theoretical questions. it's like asking whether two persons can share an apple and both get enough to fill their appetite..
[22:42] <Guest27929> the answer is yes
[22:44] <Guest27929> ohh
[22:44] <Guest27929> okay
[22:49] <FreshInstaller> Hi :)
[22:49] <FreshInstaller> Anyone here with any experience?
[22:50] <Xerro> Hey
[22:50] <Xerro> Im back
[22:50] <knome> no, we're all inexperienced in everything.
[22:50] <FreshInstaller> Oh
[22:50] <FreshInstaller> Well that's a shame
[22:50] <knome> FreshInstaller, ...not really
[22:50] <Xerro> Im Guest5577 or something
[22:50] <knome> FreshInstaller, just ask your question and let's see if we can help
[22:50] <Xerro> Guest27929
[22:51] <Xerro> thats who i am
[22:51] <knome> Xerro, yes?
[22:51] <FreshInstaller> I just wonder if there is any decodes that I need to download from a third-party :)
[22:51] <Xerro> hi
[22:51] <FreshInstaller> Like audio or video
[22:52] <knome> FreshInstaller, depends if you need to playback media that requires them... you can get pretty much everything from the repositories though
[22:52] <FreshInstaller> I'm literally in the installing phase atm
[22:53] <tola> Hi I'm using xubuntu 14,04. I am trying to delete pictures from a camer and I can sometimes delete one or two. But if I try to delete more I get the error message that the file system is in read only. I tried deleting from thunar and nautilus in user, sudo and gksudo. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[23:00] <tola> Sorry - I just ran out of battery and had to reboot. So - I was trying to delete pictures from a camera - I could delete a couple at a time sometimes, but sometimes if I tried one or many I would receive the error message that the file system was read only. Any suggestions? Thanks! (and sorry for asking again, I just rebooted)
[23:08] <deshipu> tola: what does dmesg say?
[23:10] <tola> deshipu: Sorry - I'm quite a newbie. What do I do with dmesg?
[23:10] <deshipu> tola: try to delete the files to get the error, then open a terminal and type 'dmesg' and see the last couple of lines
[23:11] <deshipu> my guess is that the sd card (or whatever the camera uses) has corrupted filesystem and your system is remounting it read-only when it encounters errors
[23:12] <deshipu> the solution is usually to backup as much as you can from it and format it
[23:15] <tola> deshipu: The odd thing is that I tried deleting a group of three, go the read-only error message. Then ran sudo mount -o remount /media/USER/disk and was able to delete them one by one....