[04:39] <mapps> hey all
[07:29] <MartijnVdS> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/03/how-minecraft-bewitched-40million-users-john-naughton
[09:21] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:34] <popey> morning
[09:34]  * popey wonders how bigcalm is ☻
[09:34] <popey> czajkowski: thanks for the lift!
[09:41]  * SuperEngineer wonders why an inode is called an inode instead of a menode... "i" should be reservered for irobot ;)
[09:45] <brobostigon> morning popey
[12:50] <czajkowski> popey: np
[12:50] <czajkowski> bigcalm: are you even alive ;)
[13:09] <popey> he texted me earlier, he was on his way home
[13:12] <SuperEngineer> from the pevious 2 lines of chat - /me guesses bigcalm has a nahgover ...
[13:13] <SuperEngineer> ... & THAT WE SHOULDN'T SHOUT righrt now ;)
[13:13] <SuperEngineer> *hangover
[13:29] <popey> https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/495924402794819584
[13:38] <SuperEngineer> :D
[14:47] <arc__> is there a way to distibute ubuntu over the network (PXE)
[14:49] <x86bit> is there a way to distibute ubuntu over the network (PXE)
[14:53] <SuperEngineer> wierd - just spent 20 seconds chasing my [autohide] launcher... reagained control but can't recreate ... must be a new/full/half/waxing/waning moon or something like that
[14:57] <SuperEngineer> ...bug #? - "autohide launcher plays silly sods if it's a new/full/half/waxing/waning moon"
[14:58] <penguin42> #ifdef user_taunting
[14:58] <SuperEngineer> :D
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> 1st weekend off in 3 3 weeks - just found great joy in deleting missed calls & voicemail messages without without aankowledging their existance!
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> All from today! "I'm not on call" is what I ought to say...
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> ...but it's not what I'm going to say the idiots tomorrow ;)
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> *to the
[15:45] <penguin42> you worked 3 weeks straight with no breaks?
[15:45] <SuperEngineer> ..& why are there so so many reated words in that>!  grrr!
[15:45] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: yup
[15:46] <SuperEngineer> and caught up on work emails and work sundry admin today
[15:46] <popey> gosh
[15:46] <popey> what do you do for work SuperEngineer ?
[15:46] <SuperEngineer> ...you want my job?... feel free
[15:46] <popey> other than "nothing at the moment"
[15:47] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: That's insane
[15:47] <SuperEngineer> popey: yes- I do "nothing at the moment" [today] & proud of it
[15:48] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: agreed
[15:48] <SuperEngineer> [but insanity is all the mind!
[15:48] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[15:49] <SuperEngineer> popey: I appear to do ... the job of the totally stooopid!
[15:49] <SuperEngineer> ...or so my firm think
[15:50] <penguin42> based on the number of job ads I'm getting sent lately it feels like the market is hot at the moment
[15:50] <SuperEngineer> swap offer - my life for any of yours
[15:51] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: No thanks, but I'm sure there are some others out there
[15:51] <SuperEngineer> :D
[15:55] <SuperEngineer> popey: all this time I've been trying to work out a polite way of saying I repair hardware & software that was never built for maintenance or repair..
[15:55] <SuperEngineer> ..."designed by accountants, built out of butter" is how I describe it!
[15:56] <SuperEngineer> [but my firm is a leading multi-national in it's field - so I didn't say that ;)
[15:57] <SuperEngineer> ...but please feel free to think of me next time you use any machine that takes or gives money
[15:57] <penguin42>  Grrr now we know whose fault....
[15:57] <SuperEngineer> ...so do I
[15:58] <SuperEngineer> ...and it ain't mine!
[15:58] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Those Morrisons ones I mentioned the other day - they have the bizarre dostonction of not taking, but dispensing, #2 coins
[15:58] <penguin42> dis
[16:00] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: we supplied that hardware! but *not* the software [yuk] & used to have the contract for them got underbid on last renewal
[16:00] <SuperEngineer> [& personally... glad to be rid of them]
[16:02] <SuperEngineer> next major move [& the machines already out there] is descibed as "the future of banking"... God help us all!
[16:03] <SuperEngineer> ...or gods/prophets [depending on your preference
[16:05]  * SuperEngineer ponders... the reason why he stopped all commercial programming... he started when he was helping people & stopped when he started putting people out of work...
[16:06] <SuperEngineer> ...hmmm - about this hardware malarchy...
[16:06] <penguin42> I don't know, if the machines can replace the useless bank staff I have to deal with a lot of the time....
[16:07] <SuperEngineer> penguin42:  ssshhh... don't let the accountants hear you say that!
[16:09] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: and all the banks seem to be equally useless
[16:11]  * SuperEngineer couldn't possibly comment that  ;)
[16:11] <SuperEngineer> *on that
[16:13] <SuperEngineer> except - all banks are born equal... but some grow up to bigger crooks than others - the others get jealous & try to catch up :D
[16:14]  * SuperEngineer ponders the hollow round building down the road... bet they are watching this!
[16:17] <penguin42> yes, don't want to mess with the didcot x ray source guys....
[16:17] <SuperEngineer> wee hee - another Linux Outlaws just released! http://sixgun.org/episodes/lo355
[16:19]  * SuperEngineer hits gpodder in the variables for not catching it yet
[17:48]  * StevenR wonders why his 12.04.4 boxes still won't update to 14.04.1
[17:49] <penguin42> StevenR: What happens?
[17:49] <mapps> :<
[17:49] <StevenR> "No new release found"
[17:50] <StevenR> penguin42: ^
[17:50] <penguin42> hmm
[17:57] <popey> is it up to date?
[17:58] <popey> what does this command return:-
[17:58] <popey> grep ^Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:59] <StevenR> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade returns nothing to do
[17:59] <StevenR> popey: Prompt=lts
[17:59] <popey> hmmm
[19:08] <Myrtti> StevenR: is it OEM install
[19:11] <StevenR> Myrtti: nope, I installed it. (This behaviour is the same across that PC, my laptop and 3 VMs)
[19:12] <arsen> anyone had any experience with failed resume-from-suspend (screen is not powered on) since 14.04 upgrade?
[21:58] <popey> aawd
[21:58] <popey> bah
[23:02] <elad> i have an installed system and i'm happy with it, how i can convert it to installetion disk?
[23:02] <elad> any idea?
[23:03] <daftykins> how many times do you plan on doing it XD
[23:03] <elad> to doing what?
[23:03] <elad> daftykins: ^
[23:05] <daftykins> installing the same setup
[23:05] <elad> a-lot!
[23:06] <elad> more than 100 computers.
[23:07] <arsen> sooo hot in here :<
[23:09] <elad> ?
[23:09] <Azelphur> gah, copy and paste being so dysfunctional in Linux is driving me insane xD
[23:09] <Azelphur> whoever came up with the whole idea of using a pointer needs to be shot
[23:12] <daftykins> what's it doing?
[23:12] <Azelphur> daftykins: I'm writing an application that copies a URL to your clipboard and then closes...so of course, the clipboard gets nuked as soon as the application closes as there's nothing to point to
[23:12] <daftykins> elad: maybe you should be looking into puppet and all that, or PXE booting over the network and doing an auto install
[23:13] <daftykins> elad: or... just clone the drives and change the hostname?
[23:13] <elad> no network :(
[23:13] <daftykins> so make one
[23:13] <Azelphur> daftykins: that and it's buggy as all hell in multi X screen setups, because it can't pointer to a window that's not on the same X screen any more \o/
[23:13] <daftykins> Azelphur: :/
[23:14] <Azelphur> yup, extremely frustrating. xD
[23:14] <elad> i mean the installation will happen in several locations.. so i cant work with PXE..
[23:14] <daftykins> elad: drive cloning it is then
[23:15] <elad> i want to make a distro
[23:15] <daftykins> making life harder for yourself eh? no idea then
[23:42] <Azelphur> shame ali1234 isn't around, I think he knows about this clipboard stuff
[23:42] <Azelphur> it's weird, my friend who has Ubuntu, the code works fine and the clipboard persists, however me on Xubuntu, it doesn't. I have a feeling Ubuntu has some clipboard manager installed by default
[23:45] <daftykins> wow, not like him to be offline!