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soee_ig there is a kdeinit5 or something crash when wifi is connected/disconnected09:00
soee_is it plasma5 nug or NM ?09:00
yofeluhm, a backtrace would be nice... If drkonqi doesn't come up do you get something in /var/crash/ ?09:01
soee_thers a _usr_bin_kdeinit5.1000.crash but its empty09:04
yofellooks like the right file name though, bummer that it's empty :S09:05
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soeehm it was now kded509:07
soeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7950260/09:08
yofelbrr, missing debug symbols. 09:08
apacheloggernah, that's lowlevel09:09
apacheloggerpossibly symbol lookup error09:09
apacheloggersoee: what does .xsession-errors have to say?09:09
yofelcould be. I've seen short crashes like that myself09:09
soeea short video with crash http://tinyurl.com/kolt5dq09:11
soeeyou can download it its mkv09:11
soee2.2 mb09:11
soeeapachelogger: one moment ill check09:11
soeewhat shouldi look for in .xsession-erros ? it ha sa lot of info09:13
yofelany symbol lookup errors in there?09:14
apacheloggersearch for drkonqi, before that you might see kded5 complaining about something09:16
soeeapachelogger: do you mind if i just show you the file ?09:16
apacheloggerno, might contain sensitive data though09:17
* apachelogger has no clue what kind of stuff current plasma5 apps dump to stdout right now ;)09:17
soeeQt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL09:18
apacheloggerthat shouldn't cause a broken backtrace, then again it might09:20
soeesome more entries http://paste.ubuntu.com/7950358/09:21
apacheloggerKCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/kdeinit5 from kdeinit09:21
apachelogger:O09:22
apacheloggersoee: what's the output for kded5?09:22
soeeapachelogger: kded5 output is: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL09:22
apacheloggersoee: and then the drkonqi output starts?09:23
soeeapachelogger: where exactly ? in .xsession-erros or terminal where i executed kded5 ?09:24
apacheloggeroh you ran kded5 manually09:24
apacheloggerthe output should be on terminal then I guess09:24
soeethers just this one line Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL09:25
soeebrb, i need to reboot09:26
soee_back09:29
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soeekdeinit5 crash at first try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5Y1YKyUq809:35
soeei have a small question @plasma5 an icons11:02
Riddellsoee: que?11:03
soeeon my desktop installation (2 days ago) if i open dolphin the Home and Root  directories in the locations panel use new home and root folder icons11:03
soeeon my laptop where im also using plasam5 and all latest updates11:04
soeeboth links uses old folder icons11:04
Riddellprobably no frameworkintegration installed?11:04
Riddellthat caught me out11:04
Riddellalso set it in systemsettings11:04
soeeframeworkintegration installed11:05
soeeall other folder icons are new11:05
soeeexcept this and some other used in menus11:05
soeeso i wonder if its some cache or .config issue11:05
soeeother thing: system-settings crashes whn trying to open Multimedia section but this is random11:07
Riddellblame phonon for that :)11:08
BluesKajHowdy all11:09
soeeRiddell: seen my info about kdeinit5 and kded crashes with wifi ?11:10
soeehi BluesKaj11:10
BluesKajhey soee11:10
apacheloggerRiddell: more like blame shitty packaging11:15
apacheloggerit's that vlc bug I mentioned the other day11:15
soeeapachelogger: so thi sis related to vlc phonon backend ?11:16
apacheloggergoogle launchpad crash vlc phonon plugin cache11:16
apacheloggerthat will probably give you the relevant bug report :P11:16
soeeok than so thi sone is known and reported  :)11:18
shadeslayeryofel: Riddell debfx http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html11:28
shadeslayerparser still needs fixing11:29
yofelI'll do some CSS later11:29
shadeslayerthx :)11:30
yofelis that in some shared repo?11:30
yofelI don't remember where you put it11:30
shadeslayerno, it's in my junk repo11:30
shadeslayerlp:~rohangarg/+junk/ubuntu-patch-parser11:30
yofelthanks11:30
debfxteh unicodes are unhappy on that page ☹11:31
yofeltrue ^^11:32
apachelogger+usr/share/kservices5/kwin/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze.desktop11:36
apachelogger usr/share/kwin11:36
apachelogger-usr/share/kservices5/kwin/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze.desktop11:36
apacheloggeralways with the shit diffs11:36
yofeldo it right in the first place and that won't happen11:36
apacheloggerwell see, I did not do it11:37
apacheloggerso now I get to break history because someone forgot to run that rotten script11:37
soeehmm the option in wirless connection settings to automatically connect to network if available does not work11:37
yofelblame $person, I'm fixing that all the time as well11:37
apacheloggerhow does blaming do anything?11:38
yofelif you blame them and tell them they might do it right next time :P11:39
apacheloggerto this date people don't run merges with -v11:39
yofelthey really should though, even if I probably forgot to use that too a lot :(11:40
apacheloggerthat's why I say if you want wrapsort then it should be forced server side in some capacity11:41
apacheloggersurely one could audit pushes like kde does with git11:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: btw, did you do plasma-desktop mergery on friday11:42
soeehmm /home/kubuntu - this direcotry is required ?11:43
apacheloggeryofel: upstart patchy good to go11:45
yofeloh?11:46
yofelwohoo11:46
yofelapachelogger: can I just commit to both repositories with the same review #?11:46
apacheloggeryofel: yep, please do11:47
yofeldone, thanks for the help :)12:00
yofelsoee: shouldn't...12:04
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soeeyofel: teh folder ?12:17
yofelthe folder should only exist if you have a user named 'kubuntu' - which should only be the case if you added it12:18
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soeeno i did not 12:19
yofelthen that shouldn't be there12:19
soeeok, thank you12:20
Riddellhola sgclark 13:04
sgclarkgood morning13:04
sgclarkRiddell: so like umm it seems I don't recall my password for qa.kubuntu.co.uk if you could reset it please13:05
Riddellsgclark: for sudo?13:06
sgclarkyeah13:07
Riddellvoila13:07
apacheloggersoee: regarding icons ... you'll probably need to run the theme convergence bugger again, packaging was kaput preventing it from doing its magic13:08
apacheloggersoee: `dpkg -S kde4breeze` will tell you where it lives13:08
apacheloggersimply run it and the configs should be updated13:08
soeeapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951747/13:09
apacheloggersecond one13:10
soeedo i need logout or reboot now ?13:11
apacheloggerlogout probably13:11
soee:) plasmashell did not start after logout, had to do it manually13:14
soeehmm and panel does not responds13:15
apacheloggerthat seems profoundly unrelated13:16
apacheloggersoee: sudo gdb -p `pidof plasmashell` -> wait wait wait wait until a prompt appears -> type 'bt' -> post output -> hit ctrl+d to get out of the prompt again13:17
soeeicons did not change http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/dolphin.png13:17
soeealso font settings changed a bit13:17
soeeapachelogger: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951874/ ?13:20
apacheloggerhm13:20
apacheloggershould be responding13:20
apacheloggeror did it start to respond again?13:20
apacheloggersoee: please paste ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml13:21
soeeapachelogger: ok i qit teh debuggin and plasma respons now13:21
soee*quit13:21
=== sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | KF5 5.1.0! notes http://goo.gl/53m7zt : status http://goo.gl/JasXSr | 4.13.97 U http://goo.gl/1yDWi9 | Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej
soeeapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/x69v2kNn13:24
apacheloggerreally weird13:24
apacheloggersoee: cat ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals13:24
apacheloggerwell, paste that xD13:24
soeeapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951904/13:25
apacheloggersoee: please check that the dolphin version is 4.13 or something like that13:26
apacheloggersoee: in the menubar control->help->about13:26
soeeapachelogger: yeah, 4.13.9513:26
apacheloggermh13:27
apacheloggerit still makes no sense xD13:27
soee:|13:27
apacheloggerab13:27
apacheloggerah13:27
apacheloggerI found it13:27
apacheloggersoee: right click the side bar -> icon size :P13:27
apacheloggerif it's not the lowest size then the different version of the icon is used ^^13:28
soeeapachelogger: the thing is i configured both my laptop and desktop to use 32x3213:28
soeeand desktop uses new folder icons for all entries13:29
apacheloggerI can't reproduce that13:29
apacheloggeror, it's possible that this is actually dependent on DPI (as so many things are these days)13:29
soeeone moment i boot my PC and check one thing13:30
apacheloggerhm13:32
apacheloggersoee: right so, these are different icons one is specifically for small resolutions, for some reason kiconloader in kde4 doesn't always pick the same icon though13:33
apacheloggerI can also reproduce that with a laptop I get the minimalistic version at 16x16 but on the desktop I always get the big version regardless of the icon size configured13:34
apacheloggercould also be a caching problem though13:34
soeeboth my laptop and PC uses same sizes 32x32 and runnign in 1920x1080 resolution and dpi is not changed13:35
apacheloggersoee: it's a cash problem13:35
apachelogger*cache13:35
apacheloggersoee: rm ~.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache13:35
apacheloggersoee: rm ~/.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache13:35
apacheloggerit's a bit weird though13:35
soeeapachelogger: PC dolphin icons in sidebar http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/snapshot1.png13:35
apacheloggersoee: wipe your cache on both systems13:36
apacheloggerthen start dolphin13:36
* Riddell spots http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.1.0_utopic.html13:36
apacheloggerif the divergence persists report a bug against dolphin13:36
soeeapachelogger: ok it was chache, the rm ~/.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache worked13:37
soee*cache13:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw does the kde-gtk-config package get pulled in?13:37
shadeslayeron plasma 513:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: should be unless you guys removed the kde4 bits form the seed13:37
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^13:37
apacheloggerjust check your manifest :P13:37
shadeslayerwell ,the one from cdimages doesn't have it13:37
apacheloggerif it is on the iso now the new version is pulled in in a respin 13:37
shadeslayerkde-config-gtk-style3:2.2.1-1fakesync113:38
apacheloggerright13:38
soeeone more question, wouldn't this be easier if all cache is put inot .cache ?13:38
apacheloggerso next spin will have frameworks version13:38
shadeslayerso, will be pulled in then13:38
shadeslayeralright13:38
soeethan we can clear one dir and voila13:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: I have to do a image build via orchrestration13:39
apacheloggersoee: .cache didn't exists when .kde/cache-* was invented13:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you want to move your changes into the regular PPA?13:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: what changes?13:39
shadeslayeranything that is still in staging13:39
soeeapachelogger: ok thanks for info13:39
shadeslayerand needs moving to regular PPA13:39
shadeslayerif not, ok, I'll kick off the image build13:40
apacheloggerRiddell, sgclark: btw, when moving frameworks out of staging, please be careful there is a bunch of stuff in staging that isn't frameworks and that shouldn't go to next yet13:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: only broken thing are in staging13:40
sgclarkapachelogger: ok13:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: even breeze?13:40
apacheloggernah that just needs a test13:40
shadeslayermind doing that? so that we can land it on the ISO13:40
* apachelogger thinks we should backport kde4breeze changes13:41
apacheloggerthere's a Breeze.colors in my home13:41
apacheloggerwhich suggests that something didn't mkpath13:41
shadeslayeryep, I saw that too13:42
shadeslayerneeds investigation it does13:42
apacheloggerfirst forward patch I say13:43
soeeah would be cool if all apps some day could have unified, modern look http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/Music_Mockup1b.png :)13:43
apacheloggernot worth investigating considering notmart made fixery already13:43
apacheloggersoee: that's the new dolphin xD13:43
shadeslayerah ok13:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: anyway13:44
shadeslayerspinning ISO now13:44
yofeldragon built into dolphin o.O?13:44
yofellooks cool though13:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: breeze not populated yet I think13:44
shadeslayeroh13:45
apacheloggerpublished13:45
apacheloggeror whatever13:45
* shadeslayer taps fingers13:45
shadeslayeris it there yet?13:45
apacheloggerI dunno13:45
apacheloggerlook yourself13:45
apacheloggerI am playing pong right now13:45
yofelalskjdjlkjfskfdsds13:46
yofelI'm bored13:46
soeeapachelogger: dolphin ? :)13:46
soee4.13.97 will be packaged or only final ?13:48
sgclarkumm it was packaged13:48
shadeslayeryofel: fixeroo KF513:50
shadeslayersymbols and shit 13:50
shadeslayeryofel: write pretty CSS13:50
shadeslayerfor dep 3 parser13:50
soeesgclark: but not moved to utopic right ?13:54
sgclarkRiddell: ^ 4.13.9713:55
Riddell4.13.97 should be in utopic-proposed but I've been doing beurocracy today and not had a chance to check13:56
shadeslayeruf13:56
shadeslayerLP is slow with publishing stuff13:56
shadeslayerkubuntuBot: imager build13:57
yofelhm, why do I get the feeling you just want me to do your work? :D14:03
yofelI'm doing CSS for you, fixing your packaging, fixing your upstream bugs, ...14:03
* Riddell spots http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/20140803/14:05
Riddellanyone tested this? ↑14:05
yofel:O14:05
shadeslayerRiddell: YES14:05
shadeslayererm14:05
shadeslayeryes14:05
shadeslayerRiddell: needs fixs14:05
shadeslayerI've asked CJ to upload a casper fix14:06
Riddellwhat sort?14:06
shadeslayerSDDM ones14:06
shadeslayerautologging magic14:06
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7951962/14:06
Riddellok, but good enough to kill download.kubuntu.co.uk for now?14:06
shadeslayerno14:06
shadeslayerprobably another day or two14:07
Riddellgotcha14:07
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shadeslayerapachelogger: how do you want to handle dirs inside debian/patches14:13
shadeslayerfor the patch parser14:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: .glob('**/**')14:15
apacheloggerthat's Dir.glob14:15
shadeslayerpatches = Dir.glob["./patches/**/**"]  ?14:17
Riddelltsdgeos: do you know of any announcement or changelog for libkscreen?14:17
tsdgeosRiddell: git has the 4 changes it contains14:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^14:17
tsdgeosone could say "not crash"14:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: looks about right14:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952252/14:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: with http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952253/14:20
apacheloggershadeslayer: you need a Dir instance I think :P14:21
apacheloggerruby has rather lovely docs you know14:21
apacheloggerhttp://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.2/Dir.html#method-c-glob14:22
apacheloggerinteresting that error14:22
apacheloggerah14:22
apacheloggerlol14:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: it's a function :P14:22
shadeslayeryeah14:22
apachelogger() not []14:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952318/14:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: still fails, because it tries to parse patches/debian14:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: patches/debian what?14:31
yofelyou have a debian/patches/debian/ or what?14:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952339/14:32
shadeslayeryofel: yes14:32
shadeslayerqtscriptgenerator has it14:32
yofeljust catch EISDIR?14:32
apacheloggerwell14:32
shadeslayersee diff14:32
shadeslayerit shouldn't be parsing it14:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: move that file.isdir check to the top14:33
* yofel sees ruby and runs14:33
apacheloggerand use the patch var rather than patchname, because obviously patchname doesn't represent a valid path14:33
shadeslayerpatch represents full path14:33
apacheloggerpatchname represents name of thing14:34
shadeslayerpatchname represents name14:34
apacheloggerso you are dong file.isdir(debian)14:34
apacheloggersays no, because debian doesn't exist14:34
apachelogger...14:34
shadeslayeraha14:34
shadeslayergot it14:34
shadeslayeryeah thx14:34
shadeslayerstupid me14:34
apacheloggerand the check needs to go up mind you14:34
apacheloggerif it's a dir you need not do the string manipulation at all14:34
shadeslayeryep done14:34
shadeslayerpushed14:35
shadeslayeryofel: I actually like ruby more than python tbh14:35
* yofel tries to write support scritps in default languages14:35
yofelI can write a CSS generator for your script in PHP if you want :D14:35
shadeslayer@_@14:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: btw your author access is bogus14:40
shadeslayerhow so?14:40
shadeslayerit werks14:41
apacheloggerno it doesn't14:41
apacheloggerit contains John Doe <jdoe@mail.com>14:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html14:41
apacheloggerwill only show name not mail because not legit14:41
apacheloggerhttps://rubygems.org/gems/htmlentities14:41
shadeslayerwhat magic is this14:42
apacheloggercan encode your string to entities14:42
apacheloggere.g. &amp; instead of & etc.14:42
Riddellshadeslayer: "The first 1,000 object invalidations you request per month are free; you pay for each object invalidation over 1,000 in a month"14:44
Riddellddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd14:44
shadeslayershould be fine then14:44
apacheloggeroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo14:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you land plasma-desktop merge?14:46
shadeslayerno14:46
shadeslayerI did not14:46
apacheloggerhm14:46
apacheloggerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging-next/plasma-desktop-work2/+merge/22908214:46
apacheloggeryou know14:46
shadeslayerthe one that santa_ sent right14:46
apacheloggerI think that needs a replaces14:47
shadeslayeryes, I haven't checked14:47
Riddellyay, "Just to let you know that your applications to Community Donations for the following have been approved. "14:47
apacheloggerhow do I make lunchpad show more context14:47
apacheloggeroh, I should apply for that I guess14:47
Riddelltsdgeos: "set(libkscreen_VERSION_RELEASE 4)" version number not updated, who do I report that to? afiestas?14:50
tsdgeosRiddell: yes14:50
shadeslayermh14:59
shadeslayermight be useful to make kubuntu-update-symbols also work on PPA's14:59
Riddellwhat is kubuntu-update-symbols ?15:00
shadeslayerRiddell: magic script to update symbols for packages15:00
shadeslayerbut only works via archive15:00
Riddellfor new symbols presumably not removed symbols?15:02
yofelit runs batchpatch internally15:03
Riddellhmm it should error out if there's missing symbols, dunno if batchpatch does that15:05
Riddellyou don't want to do a mass update and remove symbols, that defeats the point of symbols files15:06
yofelit runs batchpatch, so you get the output of batchpatch, which shows you whether there's MISSING stuff15:06
yofelno idea if that has a special exit status15:06
shadeslayer^^15:07
RiddellScottK: bug 1352397 for your ~ubuntu-sru powers   ↓ tsdgeos 15:07
ubottubug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Utopic) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135239715:07
yofeldangit, I need to upload 4.13.3 to propsed later. I got distracted by stupid upower and powerdevil15:07
ScottKRiddell: Did you upload it to utopic already?15:07
RiddellScottK: yep15:07
ScottKOK.15:08
Riddelloh thanks yofel, vishesh was hassling about that again15:08
Riddelltsdgeos: the krfb security issue has a CVE CVE-2014-4607 which ubuntu says is for lzo2 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-4607.html15:12
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-4607)15:12
Riddelldo you know if they're related?15:12
Riddelloh I see "krfb embeds libvncserver which embeds liblzo2"15:13
shadeslayer^^15:13
Riddellso yes same issue, copied code15:13
tsdgeosRiddell: it is the same one yes15:13
ScottKRiddell: Did you try those symbols changes on trusty?  With a different default gcc between trusty and utopic, I've no confidence they'll be the same.15:15
RiddellScottK: I did compile on trusty without problems15:17
ScottKThanks.15:17
ScottKRiddell: Accepted, but please add test case, etc to the bug.15:19
RiddellScottK: I did I did!15:20
ScottKOK.15:20
* seaLne has just finished installing trusty on a http://elinux.org/Minnowboard:MinnowMax15:24
shadeslayeroh15:25
shadeslayerseaLne: how is that board15:25
seaLnenot had time for a proper play with it yet15:26
shadeslayeromg everything is so slow15:27
RiddellseaLne: ooh nice, 64 bit arm board15:31
Riddellwe'll be coming to you next time we get a compile failure in arm64 then :)15:32
shadeslayernot ARM actually15:32
Riddelloh?15:32
shadeslayerit's i38615:32
shadeslayer 64-bit Intel® Atom™ E38xx Series SoC 15:32
Riddellah didn't read it right15:32
shadeslayeror well, x86_6415:32
Riddelllpia as we used to call it in ubuntu-land15:33
shadeslayeryep15:33
shadeslayerseaLne: I was thinking of getting one15:33
ScottKRiddell: No, lpia was 32bit.15:33
shadeslayerbut meh15:34
shadeslayercan't think of a use case15:34
seaLneit has pcie15:34
seaLnewill be used at akademy for video recording15:34
shadeslayercould run a owncloud server15:34
shadeslayerseaLne: :D15:35
RiddellScottK: hmm yes but it was branded Atom when it came out right?15:35
ScottKYes.15:35
shadeslayerseaLne: would be nice to stream it online this time around15:35
shadeslayerover hangouts maybe15:35
ScottKYou can run even the original 32 bit Atom, LPIA stuff with regular IA32 code.  Our LPIA arch was supposed to give better power management.15:36
ScottKDon't think it actually made a significant difference.15:36
seaLnestreaming tends to be more effort, i think having the videos available asap is more useful15:40
shadeslayerI imagine if you're using Google's infra to do it over youtube, it isn't15:44
shadeslayerargh15:44
shadeslayercursor shit is still broken15:44
shadeslayerwhai15:45
apacheloggerI doled u15:45
apacheloggeralso15:45
apacheloggerI think it doesn't alternative a cursor theme15:45
apacheloggerwhich actually might be related15:45
apacheloggerI am not sure how that worked but in kdm times we definitely got the default cursor to be oxygen through the alternative system without having to configure anything anywhere15:46
shadeslayerplasma-workspace was never migrated15:47
shadeslayerthat's why15:47
shadeslayerfixed now15:48
shadeslayerOMG IT IS SO HOT AND THE INTERNET IS SO SLOW15:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: but complaining about me not migrating breeze on the same day15:49
* apachelogger throws keyboard15:49
* shadeslayer ducks15:49
apachelogger*YAWN*15:49
Riddellyofel: I just uploaded krfb to kubuntu-ppa/ppa for the security fix (just FYI)15:59
shadeslayerthe internet16:03
shadeslayeroh god the internet16:03
shadeslayerso slow16:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: awfully slow internet is a bad sign16:06
shadeslayer2 KBps16:06
shadeslayersrsly, what's wrong16:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: you should have gotten up early and watched latest episode of the strain and you'd know16:08
shadeslayer...16:08
apacheloggerdoes anyone know why certain mimetype icons are kaputsies in plasma5?16:09
Riddell"What commands should I run in order to properly install non-free wireless drivers for Dell wireless 1450 adapter for desktop?" facebook query du jour16:13
RiddellMamarok: think I should point that sort of query at the forums?↑16:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953138/16:20
shadeslayerdoes that look right16:20
apacheloggernever used16:21
apacheloggerlooks close enough to what I expected though :P16:21
apacheloggerthat line there is getting awfully long :P16:22
shadeslayertrue16:22
shadeslayerI'm thinking of threading this btw16:22
shadeslayerso that branch/parse happens simultaneously, but not sure how to block threads so that they can only append to the file one at a time16:23
Riddellshadeslayer: polkit-qt-1 all failed?16:32
shadeslayeryes16:32
shadeslayerI told apachelogger that on Friday16:32
soeeone more issue/question @ new icons:16:33
Riddell"error: 'QStringLiteral' was not declared in this scope" hmm maybe we use a stricter gcc than whoever wrote that16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/181331529/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.polkit-qt-1_0.112.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: y u no fix16:33
shadeslayersoee: wrong channel btw16:33
shadeslayeryou probably want #plasma16:33
soee:)16:33
shadeslayersince we don't really work on icons16:33
apacheloggeroeh16:37
apacheloggeroh16:37
apacheloggerhuh16:37
apacheloggerOo16:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: you did not tell me :P16:38
shadeslayerI did16:39
apacheloggerwhy did I put the patch in there?16:39
apacheloggerI didn't what16:39
apacheloggerwhat the hell is going on here16:39
apacheloggeroh jebus16:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: u upload wrong polkit16:40
shadeslayerI wot16:40
apacheloggerthere's polikitty-qt and there is polikitty-qt516:40
shadeslayer...16:40
apacheloggerif ye don't do it yerself16:44
apacheloggeralways the same with you kids16:44
apacheloggerall fixered up16:44
shadeslayercool16:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: is the apol not in the office the today?16:46
shadeslayerhe is16:46
shadeslayerwhy16:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: because he needs to fix gtk tarball16:46
shadeslayerok16:46
apacheloggerwas rolled with releaseme master branch thus has l10n cmake stuff that won't work with frameworks16:46
shadeslayerok16:47
shadeslayersend a email I guess16:47
shadeslayerwould be faster16:47
apacheloggeryou could just tell him? :P16:47
ScottKapachelogger: It's probably too hot to move.17:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: apol says that it'll be fixed when the RC releases17:05
apacheloggerpft17:10
apacheloggeroy17:10
apacheloggerthat python thing here is one ugly beast17:10
MamarokRiddell: yes, I don't think Facebook is the right place to ask such a question :)17:20
shadeslayerxnox: ping17:28
shadeslayerxnox: brokenness http://i.imgur.com/nBDZWgo.png17:28
BluesKajshadeslayer, try maunal17:31
BluesKajerr manual17:31
shadeslayerdoesn't make it less broken17:31
shadeslayermight be a workaround, sure17:31
shadeslayerbut it's broken17:32
BluesKajweird error17:32
shadeslayervoila http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html17:38
yofelScottK: 4.13.3 is in the trusty-proposed queue for your attention when you have time. Requires kubuntu-meta 1.308.2 which is also in the queue so baloo isn't removed18:54
ScottKOK.  Let's make sure we do that first.18:55
ScottKyofel: meta rejected.18:57
ScottKdiff -Nru kubuntu-meta-1.308.1/debootstrap-version kubuntu-meta-1.308.2/debootstrap-version18:57
ScottK--- kubuntu-meta-1.308.1/debootstrap-version2014-04-28 13:16:40.000000000 +000018:57
ScottK+++ kubuntu-meta-1.308.2/debootstrap-version2014-08-04 17:54:22.000000000 +000018:57
ScottK@@ -1 +1 @@18:57
ScottK-1.0.5918:57
ScottK+1.0.60tanglu118:57
yofel*SIGH*18:57
yofelfixing18:57
ScottKPlease use Ubuntu packages to build stuff.18:57
yofelI didn't expect that... sorry18:57
ScottKAlso tanglu should be able to get their changes into the Debian debootstrap so it doesn't have to be a problem.18:58
yofelScottK: next try19:01
ScottKWaiting for the diff.19:01
ScottKyofel: 1.308.2 already used in utopic.  Try making the version 1.308.1.1 and reuploading.19:04
yofelokay o.O19:05
yofel1.1 up19:06
ScottKyofel: That did it.  Thanks.19:08
yofel\o/19:08
ScottKOnce that's built, I'll accept kde4libs.19:10
soee__oh qupzilla uses duckduckgo by default ;)20:11
hyper_chwhy was baloo re-added as dependency to kde?20:59
apacheloggerversion?20:59
apacheloggerbad backport maybe20:59
apacheloggeryofel: kind sir, what do you know if this?20:59
lordievaderErr, me saying that it was pulled in as a dependency was just a guess...21:00
hyper_chapachelogger: a few days ago it was finally removed... now it's back as dependancy :(21:00
apacheloggerguesses don't count21:00
apacheloggeralso pix or it didn't happen21:00
hyper_chit's again a dependency to kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-full, gwenview, dolphin, knotes and a few other things21:00
lordievaderapachelogger: I figured hyper_ch would check it, I don't even know what package holds baloo ;)21:00
apacheloggeras compensation for the inconvenience I'll offer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_sfnQDr1-o21:02
hyper_chI prefer kitten :(21:02
hyper_chor baby seals21:02
apacheloggerhyper_ch: apt-cache show gwenview21:02
apacheloggerhyper_ch: apt-cache show libbaloofiles421:03
hyper_chhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7955320/21:03
hyper_chhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7955323/21:03
apacheloggerdoesn't look like a dependency to me21:04
apacheloggerhyper_ch: what's the exact list of things that would be removed if you remove baloo?21:04
apacheloggersudo apt-get purge baloo -s21:05
hyper_chhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7955333/21:05
hyper_chapachelogger: it is already removed21:05
hyper_cha few days ago I was finally able to remove it21:05
apacheloggerinstall gwenview then :P21:05
hyper_chnow it wants to be readed21:05
apacheloggerit's entirely possible that there was a temporary bad dep again, it certainly is gone now21:05
hyper_chhttp://paste.debian.net/113688/21:06
hyper_chbut why even make it a dependency?21:06
apacheloggerI have no clue21:07
apacheloggerout of the upgraded packages kubuntu-desktop could pull it in21:07
apacheloggerthat is to say I find it perfectly reasonable that a system without baloo would not be a kubuntu-desktop anymore21:07
hyper_chwhy?21:07
apacheloggerbecause it's part of the experience package, if you remove it you don't get a kubuntu-desktop experience anymore21:08
hyper_chI think I have a perfect kubuntu-desktop even without baloo21:08
ScottKAlso, it's recommends, so you can remove it without removing kubuntu-desktop21:09
apacheloggerit is21:09
hyper_chScottK: then why does it want to install now on dist-upgrade?21:09
apacheloggerI am just saying, it should probably be a depends 21:09
ScottKThe fact that it dropped completely was a bug.21:09
hyper_chif it can be removed, and it is already removed, then it shouldn't be required to install on upgrade21:10
ScottKhyper_ch: Because you're updating the metapackage.21:10
apacheloggerScottK: but would that pull in a recommends?21:10
apacheloggeroh it probably would if the recommends was not in the previous version21:10
ScottKI think that's it.21:10
apacheloggerif I could find that option for apt again21:11
hyper_chapt-get by default shouldn't install recommends21:11
apacheloggersudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade -s21:12
apacheloggerhyper_ch: yes it should21:12
apacheloggersuggests it shouldn't21:12
ScottKhyper_ch: Go read the definition of Recommends in the policy.  It definitely should be default.  You can disable it yourself if you don't like it.21:14
hyper_chyou're right21:14
hyper_chconfused recommends and suggests21:14
apacheloggerso what's that command saying?21:14
hyper_chapt-get --no-recommends dist-upgrade   works fine21:14
apacheloggersudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade -s21:14
hyper_chapt-get --no-install-recommends dist-upgrade   works fine21:15
apacheloggerwell support for that you could have gotten in #kubuntu :P21:15
hyper_chI was told to get in here21:15
hyper_chand sometimes I do what strangers tell me on the internet21:16
apacheloggeryou really shouldn't http://i.imgur.com/aKLYCAl.png21:16
shadeslayer:D21:17
hyper_chgive it back!!! all 3 dollars21:17
hyper_chnighty night21:18
apacheloggerI do wonder though, if one clicks ok, does that indicate an agreement and thus make it legal21:18
* yofel wonders when vishesh will pop up complaining that we made baloo required again...21:56
apacheloggerbut we didn't :(22:00
soee__ whwre should i create .bashrc file to be able to use it?22:58
soee__in my home dir ?22:58
apacheloggeryes22:59
soee__do i also need to logout/login so the changes are applied ?23:01
soee__im talking about this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12399002/how-to-configure-git-bash-command-line-completion23:01
apacheloggeryou'll need to restart the terminal23:02
apacheloggeror you could do source ~/.bashrc 23:02
apacheloggerthat will simply reload it in the running terminal23:02
soee__nice, thank you23:02
soee__hmm thers now /etc/bash_completion.d/git23:06
ScottKSo, when the wiki got moved, where did the dependency diagrams go?23:07
apacheloggeron vacation in italy23:08
apacheloggerScottK: it's possible that I did not actually move it23:09
ScottKSigh.23:09
ScottKCould we get that back?23:09
apacheloggerwell23:10
apacheloggerScottK: where was it in the old wiki?23:10
ScottKIt was in the Ninjas directory23:10
ScottKKubuntu/Ninjas/I don't remember23:10
apacheloggerScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph23:10
apacheloggerstill where it used to be23:11
ScottKthanks.23:11
apacheloggerwe might have decided to not move it because it becomes largely irrelevant and blown out of proportion with plasma523:11
apacheloggerimpossible to maintain manually at any rate23:11
* ScottK heaves it all into the archive and waits to see what lands upside down.23:16
ScottKSigh.23:56
ScottKhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/181339835/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-i386.artikulate_4%3A4.13.97-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz23:56

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