[01:55] feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 [02:55] feed branches-next had 22 updates, showing the latest 6 [09:00] ig there is a kdeinit5 or something crash when wifi is connected/disconnected [09:00] is it plasma5 nug or NM ? [09:01] uhm, a backtrace would be nice... If drkonqi doesn't come up do you get something in /var/crash/ ? [09:04] thers a _usr_bin_kdeinit5.1000.crash but its empty [09:05] looks like the right file name though, bummer that it's empty :S === soee__ is now known as soee [09:07] hm it was now kded5 [09:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7950260/ [09:08] brr, missing debug symbols. [09:09] nah, that's lowlevel [09:09] possibly symbol lookup error [09:09] soee: what does .xsession-errors have to say? [09:09] could be. I've seen short crashes like that myself [09:11] a short video with crash http://tinyurl.com/kolt5dq [09:11] you can download it its mkv [09:11] 2.2 mb [09:11] apachelogger: one moment ill check [09:13] what shouldi look for in .xsession-erros ? it ha sa lot of info [09:14] any symbol lookup errors in there? [09:16] search for drkonqi, before that you might see kded5 complaining about something [09:16] apachelogger: do you mind if i just show you the file ? [09:17] no, might contain sensitive data though [09:17] * apachelogger has no clue what kind of stuff current plasma5 apps dump to stdout right now ;) [09:18] Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL [09:20] that shouldn't cause a broken backtrace, then again it might [09:21] some more entries http://paste.ubuntu.com/7950358/ [09:21] KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/kdeinit5 from kdeinit [09:22] :O [09:22] soee: what's the output for kded5? [09:22] apachelogger: kded5 output is: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL [09:23] soee: and then the drkonqi output starts? [09:24] apachelogger: where exactly ? in .xsession-erros or terminal where i executed kded5 ? [09:24] oh you ran kded5 manually [09:24] the output should be on terminal then I guess [09:25] thers just this one line Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL [09:26] brb, i need to reboot [09:29] back === soee_ is now known as soee [09:35] kdeinit5 crash at first try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5Y1YKyUq8 [11:02] i have a small question @plasma5 an icons [11:03] soee: que? [11:03] on my desktop installation (2 days ago) if i open dolphin the Home and Root directories in the locations panel use new home and root folder icons [11:04] on my laptop where im also using plasam5 and all latest updates [11:04] both links uses old folder icons [11:04] probably no frameworkintegration installed? [11:04] that caught me out [11:04] also set it in systemsettings [11:05] frameworkintegration installed [11:05] all other folder icons are new [11:05] except this and some other used in menus [11:05] so i wonder if its some cache or .config issue [11:07] other thing: system-settings crashes whn trying to open Multimedia section but this is random [11:08] blame phonon for that :) [11:09] Howdy all [11:10] Riddell: seen my info about kdeinit5 and kded crashes with wifi ? [11:10] hi BluesKaj [11:10] hey soee [11:15] Riddell: more like blame shitty packaging [11:15] it's that vlc bug I mentioned the other day [11:16] apachelogger: so thi sis related to vlc phonon backend ? [11:16] google launchpad crash vlc phonon plugin cache [11:16] that will probably give you the relevant bug report :P [11:18] ok than so thi sone is known and reported :) [11:28] yofel: Riddell debfx http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html [11:29] parser still needs fixing [11:29] I'll do some CSS later [11:30] thx :) [11:30] is that in some shared repo? [11:30] I don't remember where you put it [11:30] no, it's in my junk repo [11:30] lp:~rohangarg/+junk/ubuntu-patch-parser [11:30] thanks [11:31] teh unicodes are unhappy on that page ☹ [11:32] true ^^ [11:36] +usr/share/kservices5/kwin/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze.desktop [11:36] usr/share/kwin [11:36] -usr/share/kservices5/kwin/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze.desktop [11:36] always with the shit diffs [11:36] do it right in the first place and that won't happen [11:37] well see, I did not do it [11:37] so now I get to break history because someone forgot to run that rotten script [11:37] hmm the option in wirless connection settings to automatically connect to network if available does not work [11:37] blame $person, I'm fixing that all the time as well [11:38] how does blaming do anything? [11:39] if you blame them and tell them they might do it right next time :P [11:39] to this date people don't run merges with -v [11:40] they really should though, even if I probably forgot to use that too a lot :( [11:41] that's why I say if you want wrapsort then it should be forced server side in some capacity [11:42] surely one could audit pushes like kde does with git [11:42] shadeslayer: btw, did you do plasma-desktop mergery on friday [11:43] hmm /home/kubuntu - this direcotry is required ? [11:45] yofel: upstart patchy good to go [11:46] oh? [11:46] wohoo [11:46] apachelogger: can I just commit to both repositories with the same review #? [11:47] yofel: yep, please do [12:00] done, thanks for the help :) [12:04] soee: shouldn't... === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:17] yofel: teh folder ? [12:18] the folder should only exist if you have a user named 'kubuntu' - which should only be the case if you added it === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [12:19] no i did not [12:19] then that shouldn't be there [12:20] ok, thank you [13:04] hola sgclark [13:04] good morning [13:05] Riddell: so like umm it seems I don't recall my password for qa.kubuntu.co.uk if you could reset it please [13:06] sgclark: for sudo? [13:07] yeah [13:07] voila [13:08] soee: regarding icons ... you'll probably need to run the theme convergence bugger again, packaging was kaput preventing it from doing its magic [13:08] soee: `dpkg -S kde4breeze` will tell you where it lives [13:08] simply run it and the configs should be updated [13:09] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951747/ [13:10] second one [13:11] do i need logout or reboot now ? [13:11] logout probably [13:14] :) plasmashell did not start after logout, had to do it manually [13:15] hmm and panel does not responds [13:16] that seems profoundly unrelated [13:17] soee: sudo gdb -p `pidof plasmashell` -> wait wait wait wait until a prompt appears -> type 'bt' -> post output -> hit ctrl+d to get out of the prompt again [13:17] icons did not change http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/dolphin.png [13:17] also font settings changed a bit [13:20] apachelogger: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951874/ ? [13:20] hm [13:20] should be responding [13:20] or did it start to respond again? [13:21] soee: please paste ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml [13:21] apachelogger: ok i qit teh debuggin and plasma respons now [13:21] *quit === sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | KF5 5.1.0! notes http://goo.gl/53m7zt : status http://goo.gl/JasXSr | 4.13.97 U http://goo.gl/1yDWi9 | Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej [13:24] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/x69v2kNn [13:24] really weird [13:24] soee: cat ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals [13:24] well, paste that xD [13:25] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951904/ [13:26] soee: please check that the dolphin version is 4.13 or something like that [13:26] soee: in the menubar control->help->about [13:26] apachelogger: yeah, 4.13.95 [13:27] mh [13:27] it still makes no sense xD [13:27] :| [13:27] ab [13:27] ah [13:27] I found it [13:27] soee: right click the side bar -> icon size :P [13:28] if it's not the lowest size then the different version of the icon is used ^^ [13:28] apachelogger: the thing is i configured both my laptop and desktop to use 32x32 [13:29] and desktop uses new folder icons for all entries [13:29] I can't reproduce that [13:29] or, it's possible that this is actually dependent on DPI (as so many things are these days) [13:30] one moment i boot my PC and check one thing [13:32] hm [13:33] soee: right so, these are different icons one is specifically for small resolutions, for some reason kiconloader in kde4 doesn't always pick the same icon though [13:34] I can also reproduce that with a laptop I get the minimalistic version at 16x16 but on the desktop I always get the big version regardless of the icon size configured [13:34] could also be a caching problem though [13:35] both my laptop and PC uses same sizes 32x32 and runnign in 1920x1080 resolution and dpi is not changed [13:35] soee: it's a cash problem [13:35] *cache [13:35] soee: rm ~.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache [13:35] soee: rm ~/.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache [13:35] it's a bit weird though [13:35] apachelogger: PC dolphin icons in sidebar http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/snapshot1.png [13:36] soee: wipe your cache on both systems [13:36] then start dolphin [13:36] * Riddell spots http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.1.0_utopic.html [13:36] if the divergence persists report a bug against dolphin [13:37] apachelogger: ok it was chache, the rm ~/.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache worked [13:37] *cache [13:37] apachelogger: btw does the kde-gtk-config package get pulled in? [13:37] on plasma 5 [13:37] shadeslayer: should be unless you guys removed the kde4 bits form the seed [13:37] Riddell: ^^ [13:37] just check your manifest :P [13:37] well ,the one from cdimages doesn't have it [13:37] if it is on the iso now the new version is pulled in in a respin [13:38] kde-config-gtk-style 3:2.2.1-1fakesync1 [13:38] right [13:38] one more question, wouldn't this be easier if all cache is put inot .cache ? [13:38] so next spin will have frameworks version [13:38] so, will be pulled in then [13:38] alright [13:38] than we can clear one dir and voila [13:39] apachelogger: I have to do a image build via orchrestration [13:39] soee: .cache didn't exists when .kde/cache-* was invented [13:39] apachelogger: do you want to move your changes into the regular PPA? [13:39] shadeslayer: what changes? [13:39] anything that is still in staging [13:39] apachelogger: ok thanks for info [13:39] and needs moving to regular PPA [13:40] if not, ok, I'll kick off the image build [13:40] Riddell, sgclark: btw, when moving frameworks out of staging, please be careful there is a bunch of stuff in staging that isn't frameworks and that shouldn't go to next yet [13:40] shadeslayer: only broken thing are in staging [13:40] apachelogger: ok [13:40] apachelogger: even breeze? [13:40] nah that just needs a test [13:40] mind doing that? so that we can land it on the ISO [13:41] * apachelogger thinks we should backport kde4breeze changes [13:41] there's a Breeze.colors in my home [13:41] which suggests that something didn't mkpath [13:42] yep, I saw that too [13:42] needs investigation it does [13:43] first forward patch I say [13:43] ah would be cool if all apps some day could have unified, modern look http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/04/Music_Mockup1b.png :) [13:43] not worth investigating considering notmart made fixery already [13:43] soee: that's the new dolphin xD [13:44] ah ok [13:44] apachelogger: anyway [13:44] spinning ISO now [13:44] dragon built into dolphin o.O? [13:44] looks cool though [13:44] shadeslayer: breeze not populated yet I think [13:45] oh [13:45] published [13:45] or whatever [13:45] * shadeslayer taps fingers [13:45] is it there yet? [13:45] I dunno [13:45] look yourself [13:45] I am playing pong right now [13:46] alskjdjlkjfskfdsds [13:46] I'm bored [13:46] apachelogger: dolphin ? :) [13:48] 4.13.97 will be packaged or only final ? [13:48] umm it was packaged [13:50] yofel: fixeroo KF5 [13:50] symbols and shit [13:50] yofel: write pretty CSS [13:50] for dep 3 parser [13:54] sgclark: but not moved to utopic right ? [13:55] Riddell: ^ 4.13.97 [13:56] 4.13.97 should be in utopic-proposed but I've been doing beurocracy today and not had a chance to check [13:56] uf [13:56] LP is slow with publishing stuff [13:57] kubuntuBot: imager build [14:03] hm, why do I get the feeling you just want me to do your work? :D [14:03] I'm doing CSS for you, fixing your packaging, fixing your upstream bugs, ... [14:05] * Riddell spots http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/20140803/ [14:05] anyone tested this? ↑ [14:05] :O [14:05] Riddell: YES [14:05] erm [14:05] yes [14:05] Riddell: needs fixs [14:06] I've asked CJ to upload a casper fix [14:06] what sort? [14:06] SDDM ones [14:06] autologging magic [14:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951962/ [14:06] ok, but good enough to kill download.kubuntu.co.uk for now? [14:06] no [14:07] probably another day or two [14:07] gotcha === rbelem__ is now known as rbelem [14:13] apachelogger: how do you want to handle dirs inside debian/patches [14:13] for the patch parser [14:15] shadeslayer: .glob('**/**') [14:15] that's Dir.glob [14:17] patches = Dir.glob["./patches/**/**"] ? [14:17] tsdgeos: do you know of any announcement or changelog for libkscreen? [14:17] Riddell: git has the 4 changes it contains [14:17] apachelogger: ^^ [14:17] one could say "not crash" [14:19] shadeslayer: looks about right [14:20] apachelogger: nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952252/ [14:20] apachelogger: with http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952253/ [14:21] shadeslayer: you need a Dir instance I think :P [14:21] ruby has rather lovely docs you know [14:22] http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.2/Dir.html#method-c-glob [14:22] interesting that error [14:22] ah [14:22] lol [14:22] shadeslayer: it's a function :P [14:22] yeah [14:22] () not [] [14:28] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952318/ [14:29] apachelogger: still fails, because it tries to parse patches/debian [14:31] shadeslayer: patches/debian what? [14:32] you have a debian/patches/debian/ or what? [14:32] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952339/ [14:32] yofel: yes [14:32] qtscriptgenerator has it [14:32] just catch EISDIR? [14:32] well [14:32] see diff [14:32] it shouldn't be parsing it [14:33] shadeslayer: move that file.isdir check to the top [14:33] * yofel sees ruby and runs [14:33] and use the patch var rather than patchname, because obviously patchname doesn't represent a valid path [14:33] patch represents full path [14:34] patchname represents name of thing [14:34] patchname represents name [14:34] so you are dong file.isdir(debian) [14:34] says no, because debian doesn't exist [14:34] ... [14:34] aha [14:34] got it [14:34] yeah thx [14:34] stupid me [14:34] and the check needs to go up mind you [14:34] if it's a dir you need not do the string manipulation at all [14:34] yep done [14:35] pushed [14:35] yofel: I actually like ruby more than python tbh [14:35] * yofel tries to write support scritps in default languages [14:35] I can write a CSS generator for your script in PHP if you want :D [14:36] @_@ [14:40] shadeslayer: btw your author access is bogus [14:40] how so? [14:41] it werks [14:41] no it doesn't [14:41] it contains John Doe [14:41] apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html [14:41] will only show name not mail because not legit [14:41] https://rubygems.org/gems/htmlentities [14:42] what magic is this [14:42] can encode your string to entities [14:42] e.g. & instead of & etc. [14:44] shadeslayer: "The first 1,000 object invalidations you request per month are free; you pay for each object invalidation over 1,000 in a month" [14:44] ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd [14:44] should be fine then [14:44] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [14:46] shadeslayer: did you land plasma-desktop merge? [14:46] no [14:46] I did not [14:46] hm [14:46] https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging-next/plasma-desktop-work2/+merge/229082 [14:46] you know [14:46] the one that santa_ sent right [14:47] I think that needs a replaces [14:47] yes, I haven't checked [14:47] yay, "Just to let you know that your applications to Community Donations for the following have been approved. " [14:47] how do I make lunchpad show more context [14:47] oh, I should apply for that I guess [14:50] tsdgeos: "set(libkscreen_VERSION_RELEASE 4)" version number not updated, who do I report that to? afiestas? [14:50] Riddell: yes [14:59] mh [14:59] might be useful to make kubuntu-update-symbols also work on PPA's [15:00] what is kubuntu-update-symbols ? [15:00] Riddell: magic script to update symbols for packages [15:00] but only works via archive [15:02] for new symbols presumably not removed symbols? [15:03] it runs batchpatch internally [15:05] hmm it should error out if there's missing symbols, dunno if batchpatch does that [15:06] you don't want to do a mass update and remove symbols, that defeats the point of symbols files [15:06] it runs batchpatch, so you get the output of batchpatch, which shows you whether there's MISSING stuff [15:06] no idea if that has a special exit status [15:07] ^^ [15:07] ScottK: bug 1352397 for your ~ubuntu-sru powers ↓ tsdgeos [15:07] bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Utopic) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352397 [15:07] dangit, I need to upload 4.13.3 to propsed later. I got distracted by stupid upower and powerdevil [15:07] Riddell: Did you upload it to utopic already? [15:07] ScottK: yep [15:08] OK. [15:08] oh thanks yofel, vishesh was hassling about that again [15:12] tsdgeos: the krfb security issue has a CVE CVE-2014-4607 which ubuntu says is for lzo2 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-4607.html [15:12] ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-4607) [15:12] do you know if they're related? [15:13] oh I see "krfb embeds libvncserver which embeds liblzo2" [15:13] ^^ [15:13] so yes same issue, copied code [15:13] Riddell: it is the same one yes [15:15] Riddell: Did you try those symbols changes on trusty? With a different default gcc between trusty and utopic, I've no confidence they'll be the same. [15:17] ScottK: I did compile on trusty without problems [15:17] Thanks. [15:19] Riddell: Accepted, but please add test case, etc to the bug. [15:20] ScottK: I did I did! [15:20] OK. [15:24] * seaLne has just finished installing trusty on a http://elinux.org/Minnowboard:MinnowMax [15:25] oh [15:25] seaLne: how is that board [15:26] not had time for a proper play with it yet [15:27] omg everything is so slow [15:31] seaLne: ooh nice, 64 bit arm board [15:32] we'll be coming to you next time we get a compile failure in arm64 then :) [15:32] not ARM actually [15:32] oh? [15:32] it's i386 [15:32] 64-bit Intel® Atom™ E38xx Series SoC [15:32] ah didn't read it right [15:32] or well, x86_64 [15:33] lpia as we used to call it in ubuntu-land [15:33] yep [15:33] seaLne: I was thinking of getting one [15:33] Riddell: No, lpia was 32bit. [15:34] but meh [15:34] can't think of a use case [15:34] it has pcie [15:34] will be used at akademy for video recording [15:34] could run a owncloud server [15:35] seaLne: :D [15:35] ScottK: hmm yes but it was branded Atom when it came out right? [15:35] Yes. [15:35] seaLne: would be nice to stream it online this time around [15:35] over hangouts maybe [15:36] You can run even the original 32 bit Atom, LPIA stuff with regular IA32 code. Our LPIA arch was supposed to give better power management. [15:36] Don't think it actually made a significant difference. [15:40] streaming tends to be more effort, i think having the videos available asap is more useful [15:44] I imagine if you're using Google's infra to do it over youtube, it isn't [15:44] argh [15:44] cursor shit is still broken [15:45] whai [15:45] I doled u [15:45] also [15:45] I think it doesn't alternative a cursor theme [15:45] which actually might be related [15:46] I am not sure how that worked but in kdm times we definitely got the default cursor to be oxygen through the alternative system without having to configure anything anywhere [15:47] plasma-workspace was never migrated [15:47] that's why [15:48] fixed now [15:48]