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oberthello, is there a more contrast theme for kde?08:56
valorieobert: loads of themes at kde-look.org09:03
valorieat least I think it's a .org09:03
obertmhmh i cannot read the apps name in the bottom apps bar :p09:04
obertyou damn hawks09:05
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obertstill unsure if it is about my glasses, or the monitor or my eyes itself09:07
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Walexjussi: OpenVPN? IPSec?11:02
BluesKajHowdy all11:09
mohamedlist pass11:19
BluesKajmohamed, put that command in the server text, not the channel11:20
Naphatulisn't dpm supposed to be enable on 3.13 kernel? my gpu is at 74c just at the desktop11:54
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guss77Guys, I'm having some problems setting up kwin rules. I have a special window that I want to be always on top and on all desktops, but when I set the rules for that then it sets up so it can't have windows below it (like a panel)12:19
guss77(which is a shame because its a really small window and now it takes up all the top of the screen)12:20
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ShalokShalomhi there13:01
ShalokShalomnot a single one is aviailable in the repos, just why please ?13:02
ShalokShalomhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279773.013:02
ShalokShalomany recommentation for a finance trading software ?13:02
ikonianormally provided by 3rd party repos13:03
ShalokShalomah13:03
ShalokShalomhow to activate them please ?13:03
iamwhoiam1for these kind of applications, probably you need to go to the respective site and see if they have an ubuntu or  debian-based package13:04
ShalokShalomok thanks13:04
peter___which software for audio recording ? (live radio stream with cantata)13:18
lordievaderpeter___: You could use Audacity.13:21
peter___ok13:21
peter___just press on record ?13:21
lordievaderpeter___: I have no idea what you are trying to record, but for most cases yes.13:22
peter___ (live radio stream with cantata)13:22
lordievaderpeter___: You mean you want to record what goes to your speakers?13:22
peter___yes13:23
lordievaderpeter___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device13:23
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dbromi am trying to combine pdf docs with cat using > or >> is that correct14:18
shadeslayerdbrom: I doubt it14:21
shadeslayerdbrom: PDF probably has markers for beginning and ends, which might confuse pdf readers14:21
shadeslayerthere are tools to do this btw14:21
shadeslayerpdfscript or sth14:21
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Torededertotal noob for asking this but it says there is a new update for kubuntu and i dont know how to get it. Help me Please15:38
BluesKajTorededer, open the terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade15:42
Toredederk thx BluesKaj15:42
soeeBluesKaj: should he be reported about available update sthrough updates manager ?15:44
soee*notifier15:44
BluesKajsoee, well, I think that's what is happening, the notifier is telling him about available updates, but he's been here for quite a few days now and it's time he got his feet wet in the terminal IMO15:47
dmoynelordievader: hello if I am not mistaken you tried to help me the other day to find the reason of a no sound situation on both my computers after migration from 13.10 to 14.0416:31
lordievaderdmoyne: Yeah, I remember something like that. Whats up?16:31
dmoynelordievader: The situation is excatly like before: always no sound16:32
bostjan_t16:33
dmoynelordievader: do I have to reinstall kubuntu 14.04 to solve the problem or is there any hope in evoiding this16:33
lordievaderdmoyne: Reloading alsa was the workaround right?16:33
BluesKajdmoyne, do you have pulseaudio installed, I've forgotten16:34
dmoynelordievader: 2 actions :  modprobe snd_hda_intel and sudo alsa force-reload16:36
kalibHello guys. I´m having trouble trying to use authentication (proxy). When using my browser (firefox) I can set my proxy: proxy.domain.com.br with port 3128. Fine, when I try to run google.com, firefox asks me for my user and password (proxy). Works fine.. BUT...16:36
kalibwhen trying to run the update manager for softwares.. or apt-get.. my proxy doesn´t work.16:37
kalibAlready tried to run:16:37
kalibexport http_proxy=http:\\user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/16:37
kalibthe same for https and ftp16:37
kalibbut it still not working from console..16:37
kalibI can´t even ping google through terminal.16:37
BluesKajdmoyne, alsa force-reload isn't always effective16:38
dmoynelordievader: unfortunatly not as this time it no more works (I have just done it)!16:41
lordievaderdmoyne: Hmm, it worked in a live session of Trusty right?16:42
BluesKajkalib, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158557/setting-proxy-from-terminal16:43
dmoyneordievader: yes it did and I collected the sound cards I was expecting, but I could not reinstall Skype on this live Trusty which is another problem apparently16:45
lordievaderdmoyne: Then I think the easiest is to reinstall, indeed.16:46
dmoynelordievader: is Skype supposed to be compatible not 64 bits version I presume16:48
lordievaderdmoyne: Last time I checked it ran fine on 64bit os.16:48
dmoynelordievader: you mean on Trusty 64 bits but which version and where to get it16:50
lordievaderdmoyne: Not sure if I tried it on Trusty. However Skype only has a 32bit version available, but like I said last time I checked it worked fine.16:50
dmoynelordievader: I put the question because this is be the reason for me to reinstall Kubuntu 14.04 as soon as possible16:52
lordievaderBluesKaj: Do you happen to use Skype + Trusty(64bit)?16:53
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BluesKajlordievader, no16:53
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lordievaderHmm, too bad. Well dmoyne, I suppose it'll work. And else you know how to find us ;)16:55
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kalibBluesKaj, I´ll check it.16:57
dmoyne lordievader: when I tried to install it on Live CD test I found different sources but none could be properly installed. If at least I could know what you recomand16:58
kalibBluesKaj, I tried that.. but, as I need user + password for proxy.. I was trying like this: export http_proxy=http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/16:58
kalibalso tried: export http_proxy="http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/"16:58
kalibalso tried: export http_proxy='http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/'16:58
BluesKajkalib, why a proxy for kubuntu updates anyway?17:00
kalibwell, as my network needs a proxy to navigate.. I need to authenticate on it to run my updates.17:02
kalibas without it I can´t even ping or run apt-get update17:02
kalibon firefox, I can navigate as I did configure my proxy.. so when I try to run a site, it asks me for my user and password for my prioxy.17:03
kalibBluesKaj, so, I´m kind of lost right now.17:05
shadeslayerkalib: you're probably missing -E with sudo17:06
shadeslayeryou want : sudo -E http_proxy="voila" apt-get update17:06
BluesKajkalib, would a vpn work for you or are you on a large area network like a worplace office or university ?17:06
kalibBluesKaj,workplace17:06
kalibshadeslayer, -E ? didn´t know about it..17:06
kalibso..17:06
shadeslayeryes, sudo wipes env now17:07
shadeslayerso http_proxy is lost when running apt-get update17:07
kalibsudo -E http_proxy=http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/ apt-get update17:07
kalib?17:07
BluesKajkalib, listen to shadeslayer, he's very knowlegable17:07
shadeslayerkalib: yes17:07
kaliblet me try..17:07
shadeslayerkalib: might want to wrap the string in quotes17:07
shadeslayerif it doesn't work17:08
kalibstill not working..17:09
kalibas I said, I tried to use the export..17:09
kalibso I could really see my proxy with: echo $http_proxy17:09
kaliband, yet.. I couldn´t even ping17:09
shadeslayerno clue, you can try #ubuntu as well17:09
shadeslayerbut I'm uncertain why it wouldn't work17:10
kalibalready did it. :/17:10
kalibsomething is really strange..17:10
kalibcan´t understand what´s going on?17:11
kalibhow can the proxy work on firefox, but not on console even running export http_proxy... ... ... :/17:16
|xk05|you know what would be handy? when apt asks you if you want to continue [Y/n]? you could just type in the name of suggested packages you want along with the predicate17:17
kalibbut it doesn´t even asks me that..17:19
kalibremember, I´m running apt-get update17:19
kalibupdate doesn´t asks us for anything..17:19
kalib|xk05|, that´s sad.. :p17:19
|xk05|why? wouldnt it be handy?17:20
|xk05|probably wouldnt be hard to do with a shell script17:20
BluesKajupdate only lines up the packages to be upgraded17:21
|xk05|like, you know, '...continue [Y/n]?', and you type, 'Y, and give me the -dev, too, then'17:22
|xk05|or, you know, /something/17:22
shadeslayerwhy not just pass it to apt-get install ?17:23
|xk05|because you may not know what the suggested packages are going to be17:23
BluesKajsuggested packages are sometimes not available unless you have the full list of repos other than ppas17:25
|xk05|true17:25
kalibbut that´s not the case.. I´m not getting proxy working..17:34
kalibeven for ping..17:34
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CHR0N0SCould somebody please help me I'm having a problem with correct shutdown in kubuntu 14.04?18:30
BluesKajCHR0N0S, sudo halt18:34
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: Do I do that in terminal?18:35
BluesKajCHR0N0S,yes18:35
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: I am somewhat of a newbie when it comes to nix's!18:36
BluesKajCHR0N0S, no problem , have you updated and upgraded since installing 14.04?18:36
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: Thanks will try as you suggest!18:36
lordievadersudo poweroff18:37
lordievaderOr just click around in the menu's ;)18:37
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: Yes I have done all the recommended updates not sure about updates!18:38
BluesKajCHR0N0S, did you try right clicking on the desktop and choosing leave?18:38
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: Yes I have done all the recommended updates not sure about upgrades!18:38
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: no not tried that either.18:39
CHR0N0SBluesKaj: Thanks will try as you suggest and get back to you!18:39
BluesKajupdates don't install any upgraded packages, only the apt-get upgrade and dist upgrade will do that18:40
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CHR0N0SBluesKaj: I have tried what you and lordievader said to do but still about the same only difference is in the numbers it reports.19:09
lordievaderCHR0N0S: What do you mean with the numbers it reports?19:16
CHR0N0Slordievader: I think it is same problem that is being discussed at askubuntu.com/questions/461646/shutdown-hangs-for-5-minutes-on-kubuntu-14-0419:20
lordievaderCHR0N0S: Do you use that modem-manager?19:22
CHR0N0Slordievader: I am not sure whether I use it or not ?19:23
CHR0N0Slordievader: I am very much a newbie with linux!19:24
CHR0N0Slordievader: I do use a bluetooth usb dongle and I also have a usb connected wifi dongle!19:26
lordievaderCHR0N0S: But not a 3g/4g modem?19:27
CHR0N0Slordievader: no19:27
lordievaderThen you can remove it, as suggessted in the link you gave.19:27
CHR0N0Slordievader: If I can figure out how to do so!19:28
lordievaderCHR0N0S: Probably: sudo apt-get remove modemmanager19:30
lordievaderAfter running that run "sudo service modemmanager status" to confirm that it is gone.19:30
CHR0N0Slordievader: ah so! Thanks very much will try this and see what happens!19:31
CHR0N0Slordievader: Removing modemmanager (1.0.0-2ubuntu1) ...19:33
CHR0N0Smodemmanager stop/waiting19:33
CHR0N0SProcessing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...19:33
lordievaderCHR0N0S: Also see #11 if you do need modemmanager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/1070647/comments/1119:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 1070647 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "modem-manager causes slow shutdown/reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:33
lordievader!paste | CHR0N0S19:33
ubottuCHR0N0S: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:33
CHR0N0Ssorry19:34
CHR0N0Slordievader: Thanks ever so much for your assistance will try to power down now and see if it worked or not?19:37
HelpNeededhello?19:46
lordievadero/19:47
HelpNeededi created a live disc with kubuntu and i want to restore my windows files19:48
HelpNeededhow can i acces my files?19:48
lordievaderHelpNeeded: Mount the ntfs partition. What happened to them?19:49
HelpNeededi can't acces them anymore19:49
HelpNeededcorrupt windows19:49
lordievaderCorrupt how?19:49
HelpNeededi cant start in safe mode, and i cant19:50
HelpNeededi cant start in safe mode, and the pc is stuck in acer erecovery management19:50
lordievaderHelpNeeded: What happened? Power outage?19:51
HelpNeededBSOD19:51
lordievaderHelpNeeded: Hmm, anyhow like I said mount the partition and copy them to a backup drive or something.19:52
HelpNeededhow can i mount it ?19:53
lordievaderHelpNeeded: Open Dolphin and click on your Windows partition on the left hand side.19:54
HelpNeededand then just copy paste to a backup drive?19:55
lordievaderHelpNeeded: Exactly.19:59
HelpNeededthank you lord19:59
CHR0N0Slordievader: I've tried all that you have told me but without any success. This is what I now get when shutting down...http://pastebin.com/ibykPyL520:32
CHR0N0Slordievader: I'm at a loss as to what to do next?20:32
lordievaderCHR0N0S: Does it hang on that?20:35
CHR0N0Slordievader: I guess so, it sets there for quite sometime before I get disgusted and press and hold the power button.20:36
lordievaderCHR0N0S: What do you use to poweroff?20:36
CHR0N0Slordievader: I've tried all of the previous mentioned methods but none work so I usually just use menu leave and shutdown...20:38
CHR0N0Slordievader: then when it goes as far as I've described I usually hold down power button till system shuts down!20:38
lordievaderDo you see this behaviour on both shutdown and reboot?20:39
CHR0N0Slordievader: not sure about reboot as I rarely ever just reboot?20:40
CHR0N0Slordievader: I can try it just to find out if you like?20:40
lordievaderCHR0N0S: Rather switch to a tty, turn off lightdm and then try to reboot.20:41
CHR0N0Slordievader: huh? sorry!20:42
lordievaderCHR0N0S: "ctrl + alt + f1" to switch to tty1, there login with your credentials. Run "sudo service lightdm stop" to stop lightdm and finally run "sudo reboot" to reboot.20:43
CHR0N0Slordievader: oh okay will try and get back to you!20:43
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chr0n0slordievader: is there a log saved somewhere of the start up processes? As far as I could tell it rebooted normally but all went by so quick as I couldn't  read everything that was printed out as it came up, saw something that stated fail at the end?20:52
lordievaderchr0n0s: It was the shutdown process that was the problem, wasn't it?20:52
chr0n0slordievader: happened when system was coming back up?20:53
lordievaderNow I'm confused...20:53
chr0n0slordievader: lol so am I I guess it may have been the shutdown but not sure.20:54
lordievaderchr0n0s: Could you describe the current problem you are facing again?20:54
chr0n0sincorrect shut down action, system hangs on shut down.20:55
lordievaderchr0n0s: Right, so that is what I thought. On your reboot, did it hang on in the shutdown process?20:55
hyper_chhmmm, a few days ago baloo was finally removable from the kde install... now I did just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and it wants to install baloo again... why?20:56
chr0n0slordievader: no, only after the system started to come back up?20:56
lordievaderhyper_ch: It is probably pulled in as a dependency: apt-cache rdepends <package>20:56
hyper_chlordievader: why was baloo made again a dependency20:57
lordievaderchr0n0s: So the shutdown problem is gone? (Worked around more as)20:57
lordievaderhyper_ch: I don't know, ask the devels ;)20:58
hyper_chthat's why I'm in here20:58
lordievaderhyper_ch: The devels hangout in #kubuntu-devel ;) this channel is for user support.20:58
chr0n0slordievader: I am confused now I just did <lordievader> CHR0N0S: "ctrl + alt + f1" to switch to tty1, there login with your credentials. Run "sudo service lightdm stop" to stop lightdm and finally run "sudo reboot" to reboot.20:59
lordievaderchr0n0s: Uhu, and you said it doesn't hang on the shutdown process ;)20:59
chr0n0slordievader: when I performed the above mentioned actions it rebboted but when it started back up it started printing on screen all sorts of stuff that went by so fast I couldn't read all but did catch a fail at the end of something?21:01
chr0n0srebooted, even21:01
lordievaderMeh upstart services failing happens quite often, nothing to worry about.21:01
lordievaderchr0n0s: But judging from your responses it went down like normal.21:02
chr0n0slordievader: so what I did has corrected the shutdown problems?21:02
lordievaderchr0n0s: No, it was a workaround. However it seems to something graphical. However for me it is time to go to bed.21:03
chr0n0slordievader: Is this a permanent fix or something I'll have to do each time I shutdown the machine?21:03
lordievaderHope someone else can assist you in debugging this issue.21:03
lordievaderchr0n0s: No, it was a way of getting intel.21:03
chr0n0sOh I see, ok well goodnight then and thanks for your assistance!21:04
lordievaderchr0n0s: No problem, good luck.21:04
chr0n0sthanks21:04
pgnomekubunt 5 plasma doesn't download21:44
pgnomeyet, I can get a different unknown kde-based debian distro instead lol21:44
pgnomekubuntu has really fallen21:45
pgnomekubuntu website almost order you to download via torrent yet there's no seeds at all21:46
pgnomeyet, for some strange distro called neptune, I could start downloading immediately!21:46
byten821:57
soee__pgnome: you want to download plasma5 torrent ?22:04
shadeslayerpgnome: hm, which one are you trying to download?22:25
shadeslayerthe ISO is currently broken anyway, need to get that fixed tomorrow22:26
shadeslayerunless you download the one from 27th July22:28
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