=== jiffe98 is now known as jiffe [02:05] does anyone have any free time, and can help me understand how to setup virtual machines on my server? im really in need of help, and I cant find any anywhere [02:09] z1haze: what type of VMs? [02:10] kvm [02:10] hi how could i download debian package without installing ? thx [02:10] Qemu then; what are you using to manage it? libvirt/virsh or native qemu/kvm ? [02:11] i TJ- i followed this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts and I completed it [02:11] i believe its libvirt/virsh [02:11] i went ahead and bought an additional IP from my server provider as well [02:11] zartoosh: "man apt-get" and see "--download-only" [02:11] z1haze: You have a dedicated bare metal server? [02:12] i dont know what you mean bare metal, but yes its a dedicated machine [02:13] z1haze: Well, many hosting providers supply virtual machines, so I was ensuring that you weren't trying a nested VM [02:13] no, its a dedicated box [02:13] full dedicated [02:13] that im certain of [02:13] You should be able to manage with the CLI virsh .... but I'd recommend starting out on a local PC getting used to it, where you can make mistakes easily [02:14] the only linux i have is on the server [02:14] Ive got it all installed correctly i THINK [02:14] z1haze: Ahhh :) [02:15] ive just not been able to get a lick of help and its so frustrating, iwant to created several vps on this machine because I need to let people use them [02:15] z1haze: Well, play about with virsh with VMs you can dispose of if you go wrong, don't try for your production VMs with your first usage of virsh/libvirt/qemu [02:15] thats fine by me, im just stuck i dont really know what to do next [02:16] There are several Ubuntu so-called 'cloud' tools but they are more targeted at larger multi-server installations that require orchestrated management [02:16] that probably would be best for me then. [02:16] z1haze: I generally start off with the man-pages [02:17] well I did create one vm [02:17] there's the "vm-builder" tool that may help [02:17] but im not sure how to assign the ip I bought to it, etc.. there isnt really instructions on that [02:17] yes thats what im using! [02:18] when i do virsh list --all it says my vm1 and state is shut off [02:19] but the ip i typed in when i ran the vm builder was not the correct ip.. i didnt know I had tobuy a new ip from my host [02:19] I think I just need help like tying in my new ip with the vm i created? [02:19] z1haze: Well that's more a networking issue, for routing. If that IP is being rooted to the bare-metal NIC, then you either need to add a route for that IP to the VM's interface, or create bridge so the host and VMs are all the same Ethernet domain [02:19] would you please help me with that? [02:20] i spent all evening last night getting this far [02:20] z1haze: That's really complicated stuff, it'll take time for you to figure it all, I'd figure on allowing at least a week to understand it all fully. [02:20] a week just to get a single vps up? [02:21] that link that I pasted a bit ago was the tutorial I followed did you look at it? [02:21] z1haze: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Virsh [02:22] yes i have done all that [02:22] http://puu.sh/aDMy7/b15bba38e8.png [02:22] z1haze: No, not to get a single VPS up - to *learn* how to admin this kind of network and VM configuration [02:22] its technically there, i just dont know how to put the ip to it, and make it functional [02:23] z1haze: You're working with amazingly complicated software; it's not a click-and-forget type of thing, experimentation is the bets way to learn [02:24] i just dont know what to experiiment with, theres literally nothing ive found on the internet related to what im trying to do, or at least from my eyes [02:27] z1haze: That's why it helps to have a local machine you can play around/develop on [02:27] TJ- does that screen shot me i have setup a vm? [02:27] mean* [02:32] z1haze: Yes, it tell you it is shut off [02:32] yes, because I shut it off [02:33] because I dont know how to setup an ip to it from my host === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit [05:37] can someone help me setup my kvm so to use with an external ip? [05:37] ive created a vm with vmbuilder but i dont know how to link it with a public ip that i purchased [05:41] ill pay someone to show me [05:41] fuck it [05:42] * Abhijit raises hand! [05:44] k [05:44] really sad no one wants to help without getting paid but its cool w/e [05:44] how much [05:47] err....was just joking .... [05:47] sorry. [05:47] no ill pay [05:47] idc [05:47] z1haze, meanwhile try in ##linux [05:47] ive been in here for 2 days asking, no one bats an eye [05:48] im doing it on ubuntu [05:48] z1haze, in these 2 days you should have tried askubuntu.com server fault etc [05:48] z1haze, ##linux is general linux channel [05:48] ive been following tutorials and such [05:48] i was able to create a vm [05:49] with vmbuilder and virsh w/e its called [05:49] it says its there and i can start it [05:49] but i dont know how to make it to where i can connect to it publicly [05:49] i think the public ip is done throught switch? [05:49] do you have kvm switch? [05:50] i dont know. [05:50] im far from being a linux sufficient user, i rent a dedicated server that has ubuntu and thats all i know [05:50] i follwed this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts and was able to create a vm [05:51] from that ive got nothing.. no way to connect to it to use it, or no way to assign it a new ip [05:51] talk to your hosting provider. he can connect it to public ip for you. under your regular support. [05:51] no, they dont [05:51] they dont do anything [05:52] did they told so exclusively? [05:52] believe me ive called, cause i fucked the whole network a bit ago i called [05:52] i had to boot in rescue mode and fix the network interface file [05:52] and he told me, we dont offer any software support [05:53] so yes, exclusively [05:54] time to go to elance.com for odesk. someone with good reputation and reviews. [05:54] what? [05:54] what are you talking about [05:54] oh you mean back to paying someone [05:54] gotcha [05:55] time to hire someone. those website will help you hire good linux sys admins [05:55] :-P [05:55] yep [05:55] i guess you dont have knowledge of doing what im trying to do? [05:55] i never imagined setting up a vps would be so diffilcult [05:57] i dont have knowledge of troubleshooting kvm and its public ip. otherwise i am well knowledged with linux server related stuff. some info in pm === arrrghhhAWAY is now known as arrrghhh [08:13] hi all when I try mount my server's file system with sshfs I keep getting connection reset by peer how do I fix that ? [08:16] Tazmain: can you ssh to it from that same client? [08:16] Tazmain: if you can ssh to it, can you sftp to it? [08:16] sarnold, I can ssh perfectly fine. I use to be able to sshfs not sure why I can't now [08:19] sarnold, if I sftp to it and specify just a directory is it suppose to do anything or just sit there waiting for input ? [08:20] I got connection timed out [08:20] Tazmain: interesting. timed out on the one hand, connection reset by peer on the other. [08:20] yea :( [08:22] Tazmain: are there any messages in the auth.log or syslog? [08:24] is this an issue client or server side ? [08:25] I will have a look now [08:27] Tazmain: probably server side, but you never know.. [08:35] both logs are clean [08:35] nothing shows up when I try sshf. I was tailing the files. [08:43] hi guys, I've a strange problem, df shows 13gb used in a partition, going into that mount point and doing a du instead, shows only 3gb used [08:43] what could be the problem? [08:50] alex88: lsof -Pn /mountpoint/ | grep deleted [08:51] alex88: deleted files that are open (the o in lsof = open.... 'list open files') still take space [09:02] peetaur2: none [09:03] alex88: okay well maybe you just missed it with du... try cd / and then use ncdu instead of du [09:04] peetaur2: mmhh dunno why, space dropped down to 900mb used :S [09:07] dunno if after the lsof or ncdu on root point but that's strange [09:10] why 900 MB and not 3GB used? [09:10] because I removed also some old software releases [09:10] ok [09:10] so it's correct now [09:10] maybe it was logstash using the access logs but the files were about 1-2gb in size, not 10 [09:11] (I also restarted logstash) [09:13] zul, jamespage: I've made the mistake of syncing python-wsme. This added depends on python-turbogears2 and python-transaction, which were meant to be added in 0.6-1. The code seems to needs these, so should i be dropping the depends or filing MIRs [09:14] well let's consider this as solved, many other things to do, thanks anyway peetaur2! [09:22] sarnold, got it fixed by using the server's ip === xtriz is now known as dteske === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:05] zul or hallyn: bug 1350727 sounds like it needs looking at. [11:05] Launchpad bug 1350727 in libvirt "Domains created and managed via libvirt/virsh do not autostart" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350727 === miceiken_ is now known as miceiken === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina === arrrghhhAWAY is now known as arrrghhh === PaulePan1er is now known as PaulePanter [13:37] hi all good morning [13:38] any advice? about this eth0 problem? [13:38] http://pastie.org/9439533 [13:39] i changed auto lo by auto eth0 static try again sudo ifup eth0 y get this error message: [13:39] ifup: interface eth0 already configured [13:43] jak2000: what about 'sudo ifdown eth0' first? [13:44] should bring interface down, make the change, then bring it back up [13:44] RTNETLINK answers: No such process [13:44] I'm having trouble mounting my 'TV' NFS share - everything else works except for it (in OSX 10.9 client) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZWurZ4tt [13:44] NFS share is on an Ubuntu 14.04.1 Server machine. [13:45] it looks like my settings are exactly the same, so I can't figure out why it won't connect... [13:46] and my OSX uid owns all the folders... http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JNW00ZuU [13:46] so it should work - like 4 out of the 5 do, but the TV folder isn't working [13:47] is there a minimum character length required for an NFS share folder? [13:50] i want to start guest after some interval of host start (have two guest -want to start 1st guest after 50 sec abd 2nd guest after 100 sec ) in redhat i think it can be achive with this method but could not find with ubunut can you please tell me how it can be done [13:50] https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/sect-gracefully-shut-down-guests-libvirt.html [13:55] samba35: start the guests using a script. possibly triggered using the @reboot in cron [13:55] rbasak: yup, there are a few bugs in libvirt hta tneed looking at [13:56] sorry i am very dull in script writing [13:57] can you please give me some idea ,do you have any link for the same [14:00] samba35: sleep 50&&virsh start &&sleep 100&&virsh start ; but then in a better readable form ;) [14:02] lordievader: ok ,but i am using virt-manager to start guest ,then how this trick can be achive [14:02] pmatulis any other advice? thanks [14:02] virsh edit nameofvm [14:03] restart [14:03] samba35: Same way, virt-manager is the gui counterpart of virsh, virsh is the console part. [14:03] ok thanks [14:03] samba35: So use virsh ;) [14:05] it can be added to runlevel startup script ? [14:05] oh wait, that's the action to perform when the guest requests it. hang on, I know it's in there somewhere [14:06] virsh autostart nameofvm [14:06] even easier [14:06] and if you need to turn it off: virsh autostart nameofvm --disable [14:07] the libvirt init scripts already honor that flag. no further changes required. [14:07] Nivex: But does it do the delay? [14:09] oh, I missed that part. why the delay? [14:10] what if all guest try to start at same time [14:11] Then your server is busy for a bit. [14:11] i don't have good cpu and ram on machine ,when guest start it consume 100 % cpu for long time but after boot it remain steady 10-20 % [14:14] ok i have another problem with virtualization ,i have 2 guest 1st gues is utm software ,and it give other guest and host ip from dhcp but every time i have to start this command then only i am able to start guest [14:15] ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 [14:15] this i tryed to add with rc.local but it did not work for me but after guest start if i run ifconfig eth 0.0.0.0 the all things work finr [14:16] fine [14:16] delay start is good feature which is there in vmware esxi also i use that [14:17] I'm trying to login to a Lantronix Spider KVM console... the console comes up, but I'm unable to type in it. Any ideas? I get the same results with either chrome or firefox [14:18] samba35: i agree that it's a neat feature. open a wishlist libvirt bug [14:19] dunno what 'Lantronix Spider KVM console' is but it sounds mighty kewl [14:20] It's a piece of hardware that lets you access a machine over IP, as if you were at the console. [14:20] Lantronix makes it. Spider is the model. [14:21] rbasak: (it's been in my inbox for awhile just haven't gotten around ot setting up a reproduction) [14:23] hallyn: no worries. Just thought I should draw attention to it. [14:23] hallyn: I failed to reproduce in the default case. The bridge might have something to do with it, but that seemed awkward to reproduce on canonistack. [14:25] apb1963: ;) [14:32] virt and virsh is part of kvm or libvirt ? [14:38] rbasak: yup, i'll try locally in a vm === rodarvus` is now known as rodarvus [14:51] arghh cant configure eth0 [14:51] http://pastie.org/9444405 [14:51] anyone can help [14:53] jak2001: Are your network settings correct? It complains the network is unreachable. [14:54] lordievader: http://pastie.org/9444462 [14:55] jak2001: Your ip address is wrong, and I have my doubts about the netmask. [14:56] i am configure.... for test [14:56] you tell me (please) which change? [14:57] jak2001: I don't know how you've configured your network, or what you want the ip to be but it needs to be in the range of 192.168.0.1-255 and I'd change the netmask to 255.255.255.0, but that might be different for your network. [14:58] jak2001: Set it to dhcp and copy those settings, that is the easiest. [14:58] my ip adress is: 192.168.0.x and gw: 192.168.0.254 and netmask 255.255.255.0 [14:59] how to check if i have the correct driver installed of my eth0 [15:00] jak2001: Does it show up under ifconfig or ip? === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS [15:05] my ip adress is: 192.168.0.x and gw: 192.168.0.254 and netmask 255.255.255.0 [15:05] sorry: ifconfig [15:07] File '/tmp/db_import.txt' not found (Errcode: 13) why i get this error? [15:07] perm is ok, but i dont know why i get this error wehn import mysql db [15:07] MY123 (uid37100@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sxwwfcjvcsbevfck) has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [15:09] Hi, im currently installing ubuntu server with software raid. I have a question about swap area. Do i need it if i have 16GB Ram? [15:10] ahmadgbg: yes. [15:10] xnox: How much? [15:11] ahmadgbg: 16GB =) [15:11] xnox: Im going to have raid 6 with 5 drives. Should have a swap area on each drive? [15:12] ahmadgbg: you should have swap on your raid device. that is raid arrays are partitionable, hence your swap will be on the partition of the raid array. [15:12] ahmadgbg: you must has swap as reliable as your root fs. [15:13] afterall, you are getting raid such that a random drive failure doesn't bring down your system. [15:14] will someone with experience please help me setup/configure a vps on my dedicated server? [15:14] xnox, so should i make a partition on each drive for that swap area, like 3,2 GB on each drive [15:15] ahmadgbg: no. [15:16] ahmadgbg: run installer, create raid device, run autoparition and install. [15:16] xnox, btw the raid 6 is going to be my storage. Im going to use a raid 1 for ubuntu with two 80 GB. Should the swap area be on both raids or just raid 1 [15:16] xnox, it will fix the swap area by itself [15:16] ? [15:17] yes. [15:17] nice :D [15:17] xnox: thanks [15:17] assembled raid device, e.g. /dev/md127, is a block device which one can partition and e.g. have "/" ext4 on /dev/md127p1 and swap swapfs on /dev/md127p2 etc... [15:18] thus you don't need to do on the drives themself (e.g. /dev/sdb, etc.) [15:19] xnox, but i have to create partitions for the swap area? [15:20] lordievader: http://pastie.org/9444502 [15:20] ahmadgbg: please see ubuntu-server installation guide, advanced installation, raid. It walks step by step, through correct way to create raid device and perform installation onto it. [15:20] xnox, ok.. [15:24] rbasak, have a sec for exim4 merge question? :) [15:24] coreycb: sure! [15:24] is it really that complicated to setup a vps on a dedicated server [15:25] rbasak, the new debian version of exim4 has removed some patches, but when I build the new ubuntu package, the removed patches are applied [15:26] rbasak, does that make any sense? [15:26] xnox, i quick question, do i need a swap area only on the ubuntu installation raid (raid 1) or on the storage raid (raid 6)? [15:26] xnox: 1 quick* [15:27] ahmadgbg: what do you think? [15:27] xnox: only on raid 1? [15:28] coreycb: are you using grab-merge? That seems to apply patches but not mark them as applied .pc. [15:28] Apparently it's a long standing bug [15:28] rbasak, yes I'm using grab-merge [15:28] coreycb: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/dpkg-quilt-setup is a workaround for that [15:29] rbasak, great, thanks! [15:29] xnox: was it right? [15:30] Does anyone know how I can make apt-get -y install block until the process ends? [15:31] If I try to do stuff after apt-get -y install in a bash script, it continues executing the bash script half way through the apt (after fetching apt data, before actually starting to install anything) [15:32] Which makes bash print out the rest of the script but never execute it (since apt is still running) [15:33] Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu server on a spare disk on a desktop and then move the hd to an headless server? [15:55] rbasak, for the exim4 issue, the patches aren't actually in debian/patches and they're not in the quilt queue, however I can see from looking at the source that it's been modified with the patch changes. can I get away with manually updating the diff? [15:57] how do i shutdown /suspent guest os when i shutdown host (ubuntu server) [16:02] Hi all. Anyone know what I would put into a cloud config to ensure /dev/xvdb is used as swap? [16:02] I want it to be formatted (if not already) and then swapon'd [16:03] TJ-? are you there? [16:04] jak2000: That depends on whether you are planning on causing me a headache or not :p [16:06] coreycb: so this is an area where I've never figured out how to get there using grab-merge, save for fixing everything up manually. [16:06] coreycb: I do find the need to edit diffs sometimes [16:06] coreycb: or I do it without grab-merge entirely. [16:06] I'm just about to post my own workflow that I fall back to whenever I have issues. It's a bit complicated though :-/ [16:07] TJ- i continue with my eth0 problem [16:07] can you see please: http://pastie.org/9444643 [16:07] rbasak, :) alright, thanks for the info. and having another workflow to reference would be useful. [16:08] jak2000: There's a syntax error in the 'interfaces' file, for eth0. Check "man resolvconf" for "nameserver" [16:09] TJ- need change nameserver -> dns-nameserver right? [16:09] jak2000: *read* the man-page and you'll see more than that === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === arges` is now known as arges [16:27] oh! status update on bug I filed 3 months ago :) [16:27] bug title has been renamed! [16:27] progress [17:05] can i add 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.0.1 somexxxname ? in /etc/hosts [17:10] samba35: add 127.0.0.1 for localhost and 127.0.1.1 for your hostname [17:13] i did that but puppet some functions works fine when i add 127.0.0.1 to puppet and remove localhost.localdomain [17:13] but i lost fqdn ---hostname -f [17:21] <^Lestat1> Im trying to install PDFlib lite on my server [17:21] <^Lestat1> I have downloaded the tarball to /usr/local/src [17:22] <^Lestat1> ran 'make' and 'makefile'. [17:22] <^Lestat1> What is it I need to do next? [17:22] <^Lestat1> <-- pretty new to cli/server stuffs [17:23] ^Lestat1: the usual incantation is ./configure --prefix... --otherstuff ; make ; make install [17:23] ^Lestat1: most folks like to build sources in their home directories so they don't run the build as root .. [17:23] <^Lestat1> I don't know what ./configure --prefix does? [17:24] <^Lestat1> The manual looks greek to me. [17:24] <^Lestat1> (figuratively speaking) [17:25] <^Lestat1> So for starters I should be doing this in /home [17:26] ^Lestat1: I think so, I've got a ~/Local/ where I do all my local software builds; ./configure is a common script from autotools packages, the --prefix lets you say where you want the software installed [17:27] <^Lestat1> './configure --some/location' ? [17:27] ^Lestat1: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/bin or something similar -- see if there is a ./configure --help output :) [17:28] <^Lestat1> I have no-idea where I should put this?? [17:29] <^Lestat1> So far I have just liked apt-get install whatever you want hehe [17:29] :) [17:30] <^Lestat1> At this point howeer, Im missing my MSI GUI === arrrghhhAWAY is now known as arrrghhh [17:35] <^Lestat1> I managed to get this far http://pastebin.com/iHj3mzEa [17:36] <^Lestat1> no idea where to put it though. but even worse, I got this far following a blog post. Which just makes me dangerous. [17:36] <^Lestat1> I'd prefer to know what it is I'm doing [17:37] ^Lestat1: note that /home is just a directory (or filesystem) that contains your actual home directory, which appears to be /home/vagrant [17:38] <^Lestat1> yea but where should one install pdflib? Its not a program really. So where would one put a lib? [17:38] <^Lestat1> and secondly, how would I tell php where to find this lib? [17:39] anyone have a working preseed or kickstart with lvm volumes for 14.04? [17:39] ^Lestat1: I'd try /usr/local/lib or something similar; no idea on the php front, I avoid that like the plague. [17:41] <^Lestat1> hehe [17:45] <^Lestat1> Im actually liking all this sudo business. Makes me think twice. [17:46] that's a good fear to have :) [17:47] <^Lestat1> ok this is a first. Im seeing a -> in an ls [17:48] <^Lestat1> what the heck does that mean? http://pastebin.com/9sdHgeAx [17:48] <^Lestat1> is that an alias or something? [17:48] ^Lestat1: symbolic link; check out man 2 symlink and ln --help [17:48] <^Lestat1> It's not a dir thats for sure [17:49] <^Lestat1> man 2? [17:49] ^Lestat1: maybe man 7 symlink is more useful [17:49] <^Lestat1> I didn' t know there were several man's [17:50] <^Lestat1> (wouldn't that be 'men' ;P) [17:50] ^Lestat1: manpages are in different sections; 1 is user commands, 8 is admin commands, 2 is system calls, 3 is library calls, 5 is configuration files, 7 is overview, 4 is device files, and 6 is games (mostly unused) [17:50] <^Lestat1> ah so then I dont have to scroll through the whole thing. [17:51] <^Lestat1> Damn, all I wanted was a local dev server lol [17:51] <^Lestat1> Now I have to learn alla dis [17:51] it's fun :) === quix_ is now known as quix [17:52] <^Lestat1> symlink is 'shortcut' in windows. [17:53] funny enough, windows also has symlink, a different thing from shortcuts :) the cygwin tools make it easy to create them with 'ln', same as on unix-ish systems [17:53] explorer.exe is not happy with them [17:53] <^Lestat1> uh boy. Im using cygwin [17:53] <^Lestat1> but Im using on my host to hit a vm [17:54] <^Lestat1> where can I find the reference to man 1, man 2 etc as you stated above? [17:54] <^Lestat1> because I REALLY like how man 7 reads. [17:54] ^Lestat1: man 1 intro, man 2 intro, man 3 intro, ... :) [17:55] ^Lestat1: and 'man man' to give you the man manpage [17:56] <^Lestat1> and you got all this memorized?? [17:57] ^Lestat1: much of this, yes; but this is the good stuff, this is what lets you look up the rest of the information you need quickly :) [17:58] <^Lestat1> nixie pixie === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:00] <^Lestat1> I suppose Ill get used to it like I did with php [18:00] So, over the weekend my server crashed. I am trying to figure out exactly what happened. Here are a few iterations of what happened in the syslog ouput at the first sign of trouble. http://codepad.org/iay0alKK [18:00] So when did ubuntu ruin it's CPU "performance" governer? [18:01] As far as I can tell, apache started taking up too much memory. By the time I got to it, the CPU was pegged and I couldn't even ssh in. I had to shut it down and restart it forcefully. [18:01] Setting the governer to "performance" has always meant "no CPU scaling below base frequency", now it means not less than 1.6ghz [18:01] Now, _why_ apache started to take up too much memory I don't know. [18:02] digs: Change to nginx if possible, it will use 0.01% of the ram that apache would even if apache was using a "normal" amount [18:02] Apache is ancient, and terribly bloated, it's threaded architecture wastes a ton of ram [18:02] It really shouldn't be used at all anymore === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:04] <^Lestat1> so ...what do I do when sudo is failing? http://pastebin.com/DEcVQN9K [18:05] sudo isn't really failing, it's not not working as you expect it to when you redirect streams [18:05] ^Lestat1: Sudo su [18:05] ^Lestat1: that one's complicated. either use echo foo | tee filename or start a shell with 'sudo -s' and run the command in the shell [18:05] <^Lestat1> ok This is over my head [18:06] The easiest way to redirect streams is to become root first [18:06] So just "sudo su", do whatever without sudo, and then "exit" [18:07] I really don't feel ubuntus performance governer is working correctly [18:07] <^Lestat1> "redirect streams"? [18:07] ^Lestat1: using < or > or | [18:07] ^Lestat1: The ">" in that line redirects stdout to a file [18:07] <^Lestat1> oh. Thats just import/export right? [18:07] <^Lestat1> or append [18:08] right, 'echo foo | sudo tee -a filename' is pretty standard [18:08] <^Lestat1> This all looks so foreign to me. [18:08] <^Lestat1> But I am really liking that my hands pretty much dont leave the leyboard. [18:10] Anyone know how I can override the performance governer to force ubuntu to use the max possible frequency, instead of underclocking some cores? I have the governer for all cores set to "performance", but ubuntu is ignoring it and underclocking anyway [18:10] This is very odd, I've never seen the governer ignored before [18:11] I think it may be related to the bios of this box giving software (ubuntu) full control of the CPU frequency [18:12] As that was the only way to make the governer load at all, before that was enabled, the governer always failed to load [18:12] But now that ubuntu has full control of the CPU, it is ignoring the governer and scaling the CPU anywa [18:12] *anyway [18:12] weeb1e_: that bit is usual as long as CPUs have had selectable speeds.. [18:12] sarnold: Not if you set every cores governer to "performance" [18:12] weeb1e_: there's a huge pile of interacting things here -- I had expected just selecting performance would have turned off the more annoying ones.. [18:13] The performance governer works as expected on all my other boxes [18:13] weeb1e_: heh, IRC collide; the bit that is usual is that the OS kernel has control over speeds, not so much the bios [18:13] weeb1e_: please file a bug; you might be the first to notice something is wrong :) [18:14] Let me check another box that has a recent ubuntu running [18:14] Just to be sure [18:15] Ah damn, the only other box I still have with a recent ubuntu, has an older CPU which doesn't support the i7 interface [18:15] sarnold: Know of a workaround, filing a bug is not going to solve this short term, and I cannot use the box until it is solved [18:16] I already had to wait since last week, to get someone with physical access to enable software control of the CPU in the bios [18:16] weeb1e_: you could try the userspace governor and then figure out what to write where to tell it to go full-tilt [18:17] I'll try that, thanks [18:17] weeb1e_ - That is not an answer to my question at all. [18:17] don't new kernel use a different scaling governor instead of the old ones (one of which is performance)? [18:17] intel_pstate or something like that [18:17] Unfortunately, CPU scaling has a terrible effect on realtime applications [18:17] weeb1e_: iirc installing a gnome cpu applet thingy does this (which came as a gigantic "WTF EWWWW" when I found it) -- perhaps it'd be an easy place to figure out the interface [18:17] sarnold: On a server without an xserver? :P [18:18] weeb1e_: just read hte source for it ;) odn't actually use it, heheh [18:18] TJ- now i can ping to other's pcs into my lan, but cant surff on internet. i do: (commented dns-nameserver on /etc/network/interfaces and added my nameservers on: [18:18] Ah right [18:18] this file /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base [18:18] can someone tell me what might cause this issue with setting up a vm? http://pastebin.com/Rs1DnEqX [18:18] after added my nameserve i type: [18:18] kklimonda: The governer stuff has changed a bit, but performance is still what is supposed to work for "no scaling" [18:19] sudo resolvconf -u but i try do: ping www.google.com and not answer [18:19] jak2000: The syntax error in the 'interfaces' was the "nameserver" line, which should be "dns-nameservers" - note the 's' on the end [18:19] digs: I didn't even read your question, I just saw you were using apache and felt I had to advise you to stop that [18:20] yes also i cahnged this and restarted the network service and continue cant ping to google :( === arrrghhh is now known as arrrghhhAWAY [18:20] jak2000: You need to ifdown && ifup your interface [18:20] For that DNS change to take effect [18:20] ok [18:21] Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu server on a spare hard disk on a desktop and then move the hd to a headless server? [18:22] jak2000: does the system have a default route set that gets to the public Internet? [18:22] yes defautl gw: 192.168.0.254 [18:22] zermanno: that should work fine [18:22] will someone please help me with this error while trying to start a vm? http://pastebin.com/Rs1DnEqX [18:22] sudo ifdown eth0 [18:22] ifdown: interface eth0 not configured [18:23] arrith, i mean without booting any install cd on the desktop === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:23] zermanno: oh yes, look into installing debian over ssh [18:23] zermanno: check out debootstrap [18:23] ok thanks all === solarfly_ is now known as solarfly [18:24] sarnold: It looks like even the userspace governer is ignored :( [18:24] z1haze: check 'dmesg' and 'lsmod | grep kvm' .. [18:24] weeb1e_: !! [18:25] I am starting to regret saying "no" earlier today, when I was asked if ubuntu 12.x should be installed rather [18:25] sarnold, sorry i dont understand [18:25] weeb1e_: I had expected that using the pstate thing kklimonda mentioned would have removed the old interfaces if they weren't going to be useful.. [18:25] z1haze: try 'modprobe kvm' and see what happens [18:26] FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.10.23-xxxx-std-ipv6-64/modules.dep: No such file or directory [18:27] How often should I clean out the keys I've approved to server IPs which I'll probably never use again?? Per: Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes // Warning: Permanently added '23.253.245.88' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts. [18:27] sarnold: Could not load /lib/modules/3.10.23-xxxx-std-ipv6-64/modules.dep: No such file or directory [18:27] z1haze: aha :) go figure out why you don't have a kvm module :) [18:27] oh geez [18:28] .. or maybe a modules.dep? that might be easier -- try 'depmod -a' [18:28] i followed this! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation [18:28] Well this is insanely annoying, after having nothing but problems with this new hardware, now I have to have nothing but problems with ubuntu too [18:28] I have no idea what my next step should be here [18:28] z1haze: you are using a custom kernel, so this guide may not be enough [18:28] whats custom about it? [18:29] i just rented this machine from ovh [18:29] well, ovh is going to load their own kernel by default [18:29] although that error doesn't seem to be about kvm.ko missing, but modules.dep [18:30] tbh I'm not sure what would happen if that file went missing [18:30] crap, i have no clue what im doing so im trying to follow these tutorials, they are already hard enough [18:30] you can check permissions of /dev/kvm - maybe they are just too restrictive [18:31] its root:libvirtd [18:31] If anyone has any idea how I can completely disable ubuntus broken CPU governer and force a CPU frequency, please let me know [18:31] is that incorrect? [18:31] and what are the permissions, and what groups is your user member of? [18:32] its running from root i guess [18:32] ok, then permissions shouldn't matter [18:32] and its a member of root, kvm, and libvirtd [18:32] weeb1e_: try disabling intel_pstate completely? maybe it is a cause after all [18:33] kklimonda: Won't that also disable Turbo? [18:33] I'm not sure how I would go about disabling it [18:33] z1haze: what ubuntu release is this and what is the ouput of 'uname -a' ? [18:34] But if it disables turbo boost, then that is not an option [18:34] I need the CPUs to only ever scale up from their base frequency (turbo boost), and never below [18:35] weeb1e_: good point, I'm not sure - try messing with intel_pstate config then? It has few settings you can tweak [18:35] I'll look for it now [18:35] kklimonda: `sudo find / -name intel_pstate` returns no results [18:36] well, that's interesting - it should be in /sys/devices/system/cpu/ afair [18:36] weeb1e_: which version of ubunut u r running [18:36] 14.04.1 [18:37] Latest server LTS [18:37]