| Azelphur | that's interesting, I've managed to find out more, my unity-settings-daemon is a clipboard manager. :) | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| mapps | grmpf | 05:35 |
| mapps | cant find my tv remote | 05:35 |
| Myrtti | $timeofday | 07:43 |
| SuperMatt | The time sponsored by accurist is 08:45 | 07:45 |
| nigelb | not going upto ms is a shame though. | 07:46 |
| SuperMatt | soz | 07:46 |
| Myrtti | 074613 < SuperMatt> The time sponsored by accurist is 08:45 | 07:46 |
| Myrtti | obviously I need to keep my timestamps in fST | 07:46 |
| Myrtti | freenode standard time | 07:47 |
| SuperMatt | could do this: | 07:47 |
| SuperMatt | 1407138475 | 07:47 |
| SuperMatt | accurate enough for you? | 07:47 |
| mapps | anyone else watch the assets? | 07:48 |
| SuperMatt | I'll watch your assets | 07:48 |
| mapps | ;] | 07:48 |
| SuperMatt | maybe that was a little too forward | 07:48 |
| mapps | its a good show | 07:49 |
| Myrtti | meh. My brain is AWOL a bit | 07:49 |
| mapps | just watched e1 and 2 again as i was so far behind i forgot them | 07:49 |
| mapps | :) | 07:49 |
| Myrtti | I'm staring at my Amazon shopping basket and I'm convinced this shouldn't cost this much in total | 07:49 |
| mapps | heh | 07:50 |
| mapps | buying anything excitig?:D | 07:50 |
| Myrtti | 5A fuses, organic lawn feed, Moleskine Star Wars weekly 18 month diary, Adafruit LED sequins, Adafruit Flora RGB NeoPixels, Lilypad Vibe board, Hosecoil soap and feed dispensing water pistol, and a Hozelock 3/4 male adapter. Missing from the basket: conductive thread. | 07:52 |
| Myrtti | oh, and of course the Flora board. | 07:54 |
| Myrtti | http://makezine.com/craft/how-to-sunscreen-reminder-hat/ | 07:55 |
| Myrtti | I think I'll replace the piezo with a RGB LED and a vibe board | 07:55 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 08:07 |
| knightwise | quick question , anyone using PLEX ? | 08:08 |
| === msm is now known as Guest6422 | ||
| Myrtti | quite a few people, why? | 08:12 |
| knightwise | been having some trouble with adding doctor who episodes to plex | 08:12 |
| popey | wait what | 08:12 |
| knightwise | not quite sure on how to name them in order for plex to recognise them | 08:12 |
| knightwise | morning popey Myrtti | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | https://oldwiki.plexapp.com/index.php?title=Media_Naming_and_Organization_Guide | 08:13 |
| popey | is Becky Stern == Limor Fried? | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | popey: no | 08:13 |
| popey | or are they two people who look near identical | 08:13 |
| popey | who happen to work at the same company | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | knightwise: Series name - S0XE0Y - episode name.foo usually works | 08:14 |
| knightwise | Myrtti: yeah , but how does that work across 50 years of doctor who | 08:14 |
| Myrtti | tvdb | 08:14 |
| knightwise | Season 4 with Tennant is actually season 50 or something ? (compared to the first doctor) | 08:14 |
| Myrtti | knightwise: Doctor Who (2005) - S04E01 - Partners in Crime.avi | 08:17 |
| knightwise | ok , so what is the naming convetion for, lets say, "an unearthly child' ? | 08:18 |
| Myrtti | knightwise: Doctor Who - S01E01 - An Unearthly Child.avi | 08:21 |
| Myrtti | mebbe | 08:21 |
| knightwise | Myrtti: how would that work if I would add all the other 10 doctors inbetween | 08:22 |
| knightwise | you cant squeeze in those in to 3 seasons (hartnell = Season 1 - Capaldi season .. 5 ?) | 08:23 |
| Myrtti | knightwise: Doctor Who - S02E01 - Planet of Giants.avi | 08:23 |
| knightwise | J:\TVShows\Doctor Who (2005)\Season01\Doctor Who (2005).S01E02.The End of the World.avi | 08:24 |
| knightwise | and | 08:24 |
| knightwise | J:\TVShows\Doctor Who (1963)\Season01\Doctor Who (1963).S01E01.An Unearthly Child.avi | 08:24 |
| knightwise | (according to some guy on the plex forum)- | 08:24 |
| Myrtti | yeah, sounds about right | 08:24 |
| Myrtti | doesn't it work, then? | 08:24 |
| knightwise | ok , gonna give that a try | 08:24 |
| Myrtti | today is the giant bathtub rental delivery day! | 08:25 |
| Myrtti | wheeeee | 08:25 |
| popey | I wish I was this easily pleased https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zb_MGIsxeg | 08:25 |
| Myrtti | hahahahahahaha | 08:27 |
| Myrtti | oh man that's hilarious | 08:27 |
| popey | he is apparently a looner | 08:27 |
| popey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_fetish | 08:27 |
| knightwise | The only thing i'm wondering about : what do you do with the multipart episoed ? | 08:27 |
| popey | he has like 80 of them on his channel | 08:28 |
| knightwise | genesis of the daleks part 1 , part 2 etc | 08:28 |
| dutchie | presumably they are just separate episodes | 08:30 |
| dutchie | which happen to have very similar titles | 08:30 |
| dutchie | (as far as plex is concerned) | 08:30 |
| knightwise | ah ok , | 08:35 |
| knightwise | arrrrright ... | 08:35 |
| knightwise | i have my work cut out for me renaming a couple of seasons | 08:35 |
| Myrtti | rename ♥ | 08:58 |
| Myrtti | knightwise: midnight commander is what SO uses, I use plain rename. If you want GUI, then thunar comes with a mass renamer | 08:58 |
| knightwise | Thanx :) i'll check it out :) | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:19 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:27 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 09:27 |
| davmor2 | Morning bigcalm | 09:29 |
| bigcalm | czajkowski: thank you for the lift. I'm sorry if I made a fool of myself (I can never remember after drinking if I have or not) | 10:24 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Updated my workstation this morning and it's frozen 3 times so far. Each time tried a reboot that resulted in the machine being frozen at the password prompt. Actual power off required. | 10:44 |
| bigcalm | I haven't frozen for a while this time, and I'm wondering if it's because I haven't loaded skype | 10:44 |
| kittensarecute | kittensarecute | 11:32 |
| bigcalm | Anybody here use a Freesat box with Freetime? | 11:35 |
| diddledan | yawnage | 12:37 |
| diddledan | morning folks | 12:37 |
| SuperMatt | loools, someone added a cloud block storage volume to their server and put development stuff on to it | 13:10 |
| SuperMatt | they figured mounting that on /dev would be a good idea | 13:11 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 13:12 |
| SuperMatt | yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh | 13:13 |
| SuperMatt | turns out things fail very quickly when you do that | 13:13 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: LOL | 13:16 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: that's the best laugh I've had in a while! | 13:16 |
| shauno | what could possibly go wrong? | 13:20 |
| shauno | our fun for the day is that there's a new system in place that blocks you if you try to login with XP | 13:22 |
| shauno | it doesn't appear to be working as intended, and a seemingly random cross-section of people are having their accounts locked regardless of OS | 13:22 |
| shauno | ... and the lot we oursourced IT to can't unlock an account without your manager's auth. and guess how many managers work on a bank holiday? | 13:23 |
| diddledan | shauno: that sounds awesome | 13:23 |
| shauno | it would be, but they didn't lock mine :( | 13:23 |
| diddledan | I want a bang holiday | 13:24 |
| diddledan | :-( | 13:24 |
| diddledan | *pouty pout* | 13:24 |
| bigcalm | A bang holiday? | 13:24 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: it's either something for adults or involves rockets | 13:32 |
| popey | got the kids a couple of very cheap remote control cars to play with | 13:37 |
| popey | keeping them busy | 13:37 |
| popey | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Additions%C2%AE-Micro-Remote-Control/dp/B002VJ800U vroom | 13:37 |
| Czechton | how do I find out if my intel graphics drivers are properly configured | 13:41 |
| popey | do you see a desktop when you login? | 13:42 |
| Czechton | yep | 13:42 |
| bigcalm | Going to see GotG tonight, woop! | 13:42 |
| bigcalm | popey: ah, that's what was in the tub. Is Sam happy? | 13:43 |
| Czechton | but in a 3d program the framerate is terrible | 13:43 |
| popey | Czechton: intel GPUs aren't known for their performance. | 13:43 |
| popey | bigcalm: very, sophie's arrived today too | 13:43 |
| Czechton | but on a preconfigured ubuntu install i get good performance on the same hardware | 13:43 |
| popey | Czechton: what gpu/cpu and what game? | 13:44 |
| Czechton | CS1.6 on Haswell integrated gpu | 13:45 |
| Czechton | cpu is an intel celeron 2955U | 13:46 |
| Czechton | on the preconfigured install the framerate is >60fps on my minimal install the framrate is ~12fps | 13:47 |
| popey | thats quite a difference | 13:47 |
| popey | does /var/log/Xorg.0.log reveal which driver you're using? | 13:48 |
| Czechton | what should i be looking for in there? | 13:49 |
| Czechton | "DRI driver: i965" | 13:50 |
| Czechton | "VDPAU driver: i965" | 13:50 |
| Czechton | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952081/ | 13:53 |
| Czechton | for the whole log | 13:53 |
| diddledan | heh, I just opened the curtains - look at me being awake during the day! | 14:14 |
| MartijnVdS | *gasps* | 14:15 |
| diddledan | you know what? | 14:19 |
| diddledan | www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y | 14:19 |
| abhi | wassup mofos | 14:20 |
| abhi | hey diddleda mofo | 14:20 |
| abhi | diddledan | 14:25 |
| abhi | hey diddledan motherfucker | 14:25 |
| diddledan | !language | 14:25 |
| lubotu3 | The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | !language | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | also | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | !family | 14:26 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: that wasn't the one I wanted | 14:26 |
| diddledan | :-p | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: !ohmy? | 14:26 |
| diddledan | !ohmy | 14:26 |
| lubotu3 | The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | they changed it! | 14:26 |
| diddledan | grr | 14:26 |
| diddledan | don't you hate when people do things | 14:26 |
| diddledan | I wish the whole world would just not do anything | 14:27 |
| diddledan | :-p | 14:27 |
| MartijnVdS | yes! that would reduce support calls by a *lot* | 14:27 |
| abhi | sorry | 14:29 |
| abhi | i said sorry | 14:31 |
| Czechton | anyone have experience with configuring intel graphoics drivers on 14.04? | 14:31 |
| abhi | yeah... what d u need? | 14:32 |
| MartijnVdS | it.. just works? | 14:32 |
| MartijnVdS | You install Ubuntu... then graphics work out of the box | 14:32 |
| Czechton | in 3d applications i get very bad performance on my minimal-ubuntu install | 14:32 |
| Czechton | on a "bodhi-linux" which is a preconfigured ubuntu for this laptop i get good performance | 14:33 |
| MartijnVdS | And a "normal" Desktop ubuntu? | 14:33 |
| Czechton | not tried that | 14:33 |
| Czechton | but judging by comments online it just works | 14:34 |
| MartijnVdS | then you're probably missing a package. Maybe X is running in VESA mode? | 14:34 |
| Czechton | ok so how do i check that | 14:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Czechton: in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 14:35 |
| Czechton | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952081/ | 14:36 |
| Czechton | thats the log | 14:36 |
| MartijnVdS | [ 67.441] (II) LoadModule: "intel" | 14:36 |
| MartijnVdS | it loads the intel module, that's good | 14:36 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't know what the problem could be. | 14:36 |
| Czechton | hmm | 14:37 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe #ubuntu knows -- there's usually more people around there to help | 14:37 |
| Czechton | ok I'll ask in there | 14:38 |
| MartijnVdS | good luck :) | 14:38 |
| Czechton | thanks for having a look | 14:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Czechton: for reference, can you put the output of "glxinfo" (only works from X) somewhere too? | 14:39 |
| Czechton | MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952426/ | 14:42 |
| MartijnVdS | the only difference between your setup and mine seems to be kernel mode setting (kms) | 14:44 |
| MartijnVdS | also, I have a gt2 (haswell i7) where you have a gt1 (haswell.. non-i7?) | 14:44 |
| Czechton | its a celeron 2955U | 14:45 |
| Czechton | in the X.org log it mentions vesa modules being loaded | 14:45 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah that would have the "lesser" graphics chip. But that wouldn't explain why it works in one and not the other | 14:45 |
| Czechton | might it be prefering vesa mode over the intel driver? | 14:45 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah mine mentions that too. | 14:45 |
| MartijnVdS | It's using intel | 14:45 |
| Czechton | haha #ubuntu is fairly useless, everyone just told me to install lubuntu | 14:48 |
| Czechton | :D | 14:48 |
| Czechton | not really what i was going for, though it would probably work! | 14:49 |
| MartijnVdS | Dunno | 14:50 |
| daftykins | Czechton: did you get anywhere? | 16:17 |
| Czechton | sadly not | 16:26 |
| Czechton | daftykins: sadly not | 16:26 |
| daftykins | Czechton: what was the reason for doing a minimal install? | 16:26 |
| Czechton | think I'll make a post on r/chrubuntu | 16:26 |
| Czechton | i could have just installed lubuntu but i wanted to mess around with just openbox and very little else | 16:27 |
| Czechton | and figure out how all the bits of UI fit together | 16:27 |
| daftykins | wait a minute... chrubuntu, so this is a chromebook? | 16:28 |
| Czechton | yep | 16:28 |
| daftykins | ah, in that case this is more likely the chroot'd install of ubuntu running atop the chromeOS install, yes? | 16:28 |
| Czechton | no | 16:28 |
| Czechton | its a full install | 16:29 |
| daftykins | so you enabled dev mode, put on a BIOS that allows direct USB boot... then installed natively to the disk? | 16:29 |
| Czechton | I have a partition for bodhi linux and a partition for ubuntu-minimal | 16:29 |
| Czechton | yeh | 16:29 |
| daftykins | was this using the standard 'mini.iso' then? | 16:29 |
| Czechton | yep | 16:29 |
| daftykins | mmk, so do you have the storage space to just apt-get the entire ubuntu-desktop package? | 16:30 |
| Czechton | yep should do | 16:31 |
| Czechton | about 6gb left on this partition | 16:31 |
| daftykins | wouldn't hurt to try then :) | 16:32 |
| daftykins | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 16:32 |
| daftykins | might even be worth sharing with us the packages it says it's going to install | 16:32 |
| Czechton | well this is the package list it just spat at me | 16:35 |
| Czechton | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953251/ | 16:35 |
| daftykins | ouch yeah picking through that'd be fun | 16:36 |
| Czechton | only thing that jumps out is possibly libgles2-mesa? | 16:39 |
| Czechton | n | 16:41 |
| daftykins | wouldn't hurt to go a package at a time and experiment, if you fancy it | 16:43 |
| diddledan | I'd be wary of doing that piecemeal approach unless I was going to blat the install once I'd got it going and start again - reason: apt remembers depended-installations vs requested installations so on upgrades it won't remove stuff you've requested to be installed even when it's no-longer required | 16:49 |
| daftykins | ic | 16:50 |
| Czechton | hmm | 16:54 |
| Czechton | that would be annoying | 16:54 |
| Czechton | might have to be something I leave until i get back to my desktop in a couple of weeks | 16:55 |
| Czechton | this is my only computer atm and i don't really feel like doing full reinstalls and reconfiguring everything | 16:56 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| ali1234 | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | the ^ is important apparently | 17:27 |
| diddledan | ali1234: any idea what the caret means? | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | it means task rather than metapackage i think | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | apparently the caret isn't required any more | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | tasks are like metapackages, but different | 17:30 |
| diddledan | aah, I've heard of tasksel | 17:31 |
| Czechton | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953700/ | 17:31 |
| Czechton | if you're interested in the difference :p | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | yeah the task will likely install more things | 17:32 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu-desktop^ should effectively give you what the full installer would do, more or less | 17:32 |
| mapps | oops | 18:14 |
| mapps | went to town to pay money in ended up having 7 pints | 18:15 |
| mapps | hadnt had a drink for 6 days | 18:15 |
| mapps | dunno if thats good or bad | 18:15 |
| MartijnVdS | 7 is a lot | 18:15 |
| mapps | not to me | 18:15 |
| mapps | but i became a pro at drinking;p | 18:15 |
| MartijnVdS | Believe me, it is. | 18:15 |
| mapps | only left becayse i got offered a lift | 18:16 |
| mapps | was already thinking about going out later | 18:16 |
| diddledan | how do I figure out whether a "video" I've acquired is in some codec I don't have vs purposely broken so that I can't play it back no matter how hard I try? | 18:26 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: "file" ? | 18:28 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: ffmpeg -i moviefile | 18:28 |
| MartijnVdS | (no output -- it just outputs codec details) | 18:28 |
| diddledan | what package is that from? | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | libav probably | 18:30 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: ffmpeg: /usr/bin/ffmpeg | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | ffmpeg has been replaced by avconv in debian based distros | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: except they still provide ffmpeg | 18:31 |
| diddledan | o_O | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | not by default | 18:31 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: there is no ffmpeg package | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | libav-tools then maybe | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | which has avconv | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | which is ffmpeg in disguise | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | avconv doesn't even have the ffmpeg compatibility wrapper any more | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | (I hate forkers..) | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | I must have the ffmpeg package left over from ye olden days | 18:32 |
| diddledan | so avconv -i <filename> doesn't work | 18:33 |
| davmor2 | ali1234, diddledan, MartijnVdS: just use handbrake ;) | 18:35 |
| diddledan | davmor2: handbrake doesn't know what it is - hence why I want to find out if it's just a missing codec or not | 18:35 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: transcode it in vlc | 18:36 |
| diddledan | yeah, vlc. tried that | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd first try "file", then ffmpeg/avconv, then exiftool (part of libimage-exiftool-perl) | 18:36 |
| diddledan | file.avi: data | 18:37 |
| diddledan | that's useful | 18:37 |
| MartijnVdS | sounds corrupt | 18:37 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: anything readable in the first 100 or so bytes (try less) | 18:37 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: might just be an encrypted avi file | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | yeah file should at least be able to identify an avi container | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | even if it was drm'd or something | 18:38 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | did you download it on a torrent? maybe the beginning of the file is missing... that would do it | 18:39 |
| diddledan | so is this just a subtle way of trying to get me to install "virused"-codec? | 18:40 |
| diddledan | it's off usenet | 18:40 |
| diddledan | which is where torrents are born | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | maybe you didn't reconstruct it properly? | 18:40 |
| diddledan | it's all automatic | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | was it in a multipart rar? those don't work correctly on linux | 18:40 |
| diddledan | it's all automatic | 18:41 |
| diddledan | I have no idea what the original download was | 18:41 |
| awilkins | One of the RAM modules in my laptop has gone *phut* | 18:41 |
| ali1234 | well on usenet it must have been split over several posts somehow... | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: so sad | 18:41 |
| diddledan | all I know is I have several files which are broke in plex | 18:41 |
| awilkins | Still have 2GB of RAM. Ubuntu works | 18:41 |
| ali1234 | and there's many different ways of doing that | 18:41 |
| awilkins | Windows just sits there sulking on the login screen but doesn't show a prompt | 18:42 |
| awilkins | Windows has a real problem with changes in hardware.... Ubuntu, I can move my main work drive between two different machines at will. | 18:43 |
| awilkins | But now I can't play Hearthstone. | 18:43 |
| ali1234 | you can do that in windows you just have to run a command before doing it | 18:43 |
| diddledan | ali1234: it'll be downloaded in whatever format couch-potato and sabnzbd use | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | Windows "OH NO YOU PLUGGED THE KEYBOARD INTO A DIFFERENT USB PORT LET ME INSTALL NEW DRIVERS" | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | Ubuntu "Hey, hardware. I know that!" | 18:43 |
| awilkins | I know.... like "YOU PLUGGED IN A USB MEMORY STICK I DIDN'T SEE BEFORE... MUST... INSTALL... DRIVERS!" | 18:44 |
| MartijnVdS | My dad has accepted the Windows way as "normal", so every time I'm impatient he just waves it away, "it always does that". NOT ON MY MACHINE | 18:44 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: totally unrealistic gui! | 18:44 |
| ali1234 | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc721940%28v=ws.10%29.aspx | 18:45 |
| awilkins | The downside to that is that if I put the faulty RAM module back in it might break stuff | 18:46 |
| awilkins | Possible that it's ruined the NTFS partition I suppose. | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | removing a ram chip shouldn't break windows | 18:46 |
| diddledan | awilkins: what ali1234 said | 18:46 |
| awilkins | Yeah, might have been the faults in the RAM chip I removed | 18:46 |
| diddledan | awilkins: ram changes are fine normally | 18:46 |
| awilkins | It boots.. | 18:47 |
| ali1234 | you the system check tools in windows | 18:47 |
| ali1234 | *use | 18:47 |
| awilkins | I can't even log in | 18:47 |
| ali1234 | safe moed? | 18:47 |
| awilkins | Tried holding ctrl when booting | 18:47 |
| awilkins | What does Win 7 need? | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | F5/F7? | 18:48 |
| diddledan | f8 | 18:48 |
| awilkins | HAH, you illustrate my problem ;-) | 18:48 |
| diddledan | it's f8 | 18:48 |
| * awilkins will now reboot and hammer keys at random | 18:48 | |
| diddledan | mash it while you reboot | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | F5/F7 was windows 98 i think | 18:48 |
| diddledan | nope win98 used f8, too | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | or maybe it was F5/F8 | 18:48 |
| MartijnVdS | it was | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | i'm sure F5 did something | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | F5 and F8 are actually DOS 6 and up combos | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | to skip config.sys/autoexec.bat or to step through | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | why do I remember this | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | hahaha yeah when it would ask you if you wanted to run each line... | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | and people say linux is too hard to use | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | "Load EMM386.EXE /NOEMS?" | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | HIMEM.SYS? | 18:50 |
| hirectdex | load? | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | LH | 18:50 |
| hirectdex | you think we're made of memory? | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe | 18:50 |
| hirectdex | loadhigh! | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | didn't emm386 do that itself because it was magic? | 18:51 |
| diddledan | you can't loadhigh until you've load himem and emm386 | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | didn't you have to load emm386 first in order to use lh? | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | let memmaker sort'em out | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | (yes, you can use the Hercules graphics segments for RAM, really. This is a VGA machine) | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | I actually re-did all this a few weeks ago. On a PS/2 Model 70 portable. | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di9OQLiwbIU | 18:53 |
| awilkins | Nope, I don't have the magic recovery disk. | 18:54 |
| awilkins | Looks like Ubuntu for me. | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: the horror! | 18:54 |
| awilkins | (and no Hearthstone.) | 18:54 |
| awilkins | I wanted to play Hearthstone but I guess I'll have to do something useful or edifying *tch* | 18:55 |
| diddledan | edifying?! | 18:55 |
| diddledan | you heretic! | 18:55 |
| MartijnVdS | do you have a licence for that? | 18:57 |
| diddledan | GPL will do | 18:57 |
| * diddledan paints a GPL sign onto hearthstone | 18:58 | |
| diddledan | now they must provide us with the sauce | 18:58 |
| diddledan | tomato, I hope | 18:58 |
| * awilkins_ has fiddled with Wine | 19:03 | |
| === awilkins_ is now known as awilkins | ||
| awilkins | Battle.net launcher now works on Ubuntu.... | 19:03 |
| * awilkins copies his Hearthstone folder to ~/.wine | 19:06 | |
| mapps | email at work | 19:08 |
| mapps | about 40 people going to gib for a bit for a satellite office | 19:08 |
| mapps | tempted to apply | 19:08 |
| mapps | anyone been to gib? | 19:08 |
| awilkins | Oh dear, Hearthstone seems to work in Wine | 19:09 |
| * awilkins gets back to wasting his time | 19:10 | |
| ali1234 | the other day on reddit i saw a google docs spreadsheet with the number of win/mac/linux steam games over time | 19:35 |
| ali1234 | does anyone have the link handy? | 19:35 |
| ali1234 | nvm i found it | 19:37 |
| ali1234 | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai0E-WvppW8GdG9leHFsR2pWWVVxbzgwYUtWakVnd0E&usp=sharing#gid=0 | 19:38 |
| diddledan | ali1234: that's intriguing the way it's paralleling but maintaining separation with mac | 20:17 |
| diddledan | the way linux is** | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | it takes a long time to write games | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | linux is catching up with mac | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | i expect it will overtake in about 12 months | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | porting a game is a lot easier if you do it during development | 20:19 |
| ali1234 | the gap has always been about 300 games, so i'd guess it's mostly old games that aren't being ported rather than new ones | 20:20 |
| popey | its also more financially sound to do it during development | 20:38 |
| popey | especially if it forces you to use cross platform tools | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | yeah, easier usually implies cheaper too :) | 20:41 |
| ali1234 | popey: you backed elite: dangerous right? | 20:42 |
| ali1234 | did you play it yet? | 20:42 |
| popey | I did not. | 20:42 |
| popey | (back it) | 20:42 |
| ali1234 | oh i thought you did | 20:42 |
| popey | was tempted but they were unclear on when/if linux version would be made, so I erred on the side of caution | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | yeah, same, plus i don't really like kickstarters | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | but my brother backed it, so i played it the other day | 20:43 |
| popey | any good? | 20:44 |
| popey | i was never really an Elite fan | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | it's just like the original... at least what they have so far | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | the virtual cockpit is really nicely done | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | especially on the oculus rift | 20:45 |
| popey | ooh | 20:45 |
| popey | bet thats amazing | 20:45 |
| popey | never tried an OR yet | 20:45 |
| popey | i hear the new DK2 sdk doesn't have linux support yet | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | it has a virtual HUD with different screens that pop up when you look around... it's really nicely done | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | very immersive... there's no fullscreen menus | 20:46 |
| popey | like iron man? | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | exept the load/save/quit main menu thingy | 20:46 |
| popey | ☻ | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | sort of... less hand waving though | 20:46 |
| popey | no, i mean in his suit | 20:46 |
| ali1234 | hmm... i dunno, i've only seen one of those films once and i can't really remember it | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | but for example, when you look ahead out the main window you see space... look left a bit and the cargo manifest screen appears with a fancy effect... but it looks like it's part of the ship | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | look right and you get the ship status | 20:47 |
| popey | it detects your head movement to track that? | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | yes | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | it's a virtual cockpit so you can look down and see your feet | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | and look around at instruments etc | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | and the popup screens are like holographic projections | 20:48 |
| popey | http://jayse.tv/v2/?portfolio=hud | 20:49 |
| popey | nice | 20:49 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's way less confusing than that | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | imagine a typical triple monitor setup | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | but the two side monitors just disappear when you're not looking at them | 20:50 |
| popey | oh i see | 20:52 |
| popey | sounds natty | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | (and the middle monitor is just the window of your ship) | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | here's a video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HAuNIbJF6w | 20:53 |
| popey | wow, that looks pretty amazing | 21:04 |
| popey | time to make your own OVR ☻ | 21:04 |
| czajkowski | evening folks | 21:10 |
| popey | yo | 21:12 |
| ali1234 | how do you enable drivers from the command line in 14.04? what replaced jockey-text? | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu-drivers only shows information | 21:51 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
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