[00:07] <Azelphur> that's interesting, I've managed to find out more, my unity-settings-daemon is a clipboard manager. :)
[05:35] <mapps> grmpf
[05:35] <mapps> cant find my tv remote
[07:43] <Myrtti> $timeofday
[07:45] <SuperMatt> The time sponsored by accurist is 08:45
[07:46] <nigelb> not going upto ms is a shame though.
[07:46] <SuperMatt> soz
[07:46] <Myrtti> 074613 < SuperMatt> The time sponsored by accurist is 08:45
[07:46] <Myrtti> obviously I need to keep my timestamps in fST
[07:47] <Myrtti> freenode standard time
[07:47] <SuperMatt> could do this:
[07:47] <SuperMatt> 1407138475
[07:47] <SuperMatt> accurate enough for you?
[07:48] <mapps> anyone else watch the assets?
[07:48] <SuperMatt> I'll watch your assets
[07:48] <mapps> ;]
[07:48] <SuperMatt> maybe that was a little too forward
[07:49] <mapps> its a good show
[07:49] <Myrtti> meh. My brain is AWOL a bit
[07:49] <mapps> just watched e1 and 2 again as i was so far behind i forgot them
[07:49] <mapps> :)
[07:49] <Myrtti> I'm staring at my Amazon shopping basket and I'm convinced this shouldn't cost this much in total
[07:50] <mapps> heh
[07:50] <mapps> buying anything excitig?:D
[07:52] <Myrtti> 5A fuses, organic lawn feed, Moleskine Star Wars weekly 18 month diary, Adafruit LED sequins, Adafruit Flora RGB NeoPixels, Lilypad Vibe board, Hosecoil soap and feed dispensing water pistol, and a Hozelock 3/4 male adapter. Missing from the basket: conductive thread.
[07:54] <Myrtti> oh, and of course the Flora board.
[07:55] <Myrtti> http://makezine.com/craft/how-to-sunscreen-reminder-hat/
[07:55] <Myrtti> I think I'll replace the piezo with a RGB LED and a vibe board
[08:07] <knightwise> hey everyone
[08:08] <knightwise> quick question , anyone using PLEX ?
[08:12] <Myrtti> quite a few people, why?
[08:12] <knightwise> been having some trouble with adding doctor who episodes to plex
[08:12] <popey> wait what
[08:12] <knightwise> not quite sure on how to name them in order for plex to recognise them
[08:13] <knightwise> morning popey Myrtti
[08:13] <Myrtti> https://oldwiki.plexapp.com/index.php?title=Media_Naming_and_Organization_Guide
[08:13] <popey> is Becky Stern == Limor Fried?
[08:13] <Myrtti> popey: no
[08:13] <popey> or are they two people who look near identical
[08:13] <popey> who happen to work at the same company
[08:14] <Myrtti> knightwise: Series name - S0XE0Y - episode name.foo usually works
[08:14] <knightwise> Myrtti: yeah , but how does that work across 50 years of doctor who
[08:14] <Myrtti> tvdb
[08:14] <knightwise> Season 4 with Tennant is actually season 50 or something ? (compared to the first doctor)
[08:17] <Myrtti> knightwise: Doctor Who (2005) - S04E01 - Partners in Crime.avi
[08:18] <knightwise> ok , so what is the naming convetion for, lets say, "an unearthly child' ?
[08:21] <Myrtti> knightwise: Doctor Who - S01E01 - An Unearthly Child.avi
[08:21] <Myrtti> mebbe
[08:22] <knightwise> Myrtti: how would that work if I would add all the other 10 doctors inbetween
[08:23] <knightwise> you cant squeeze in those in to 3 seasons (hartnell = Season 1 - Capaldi season .. 5 ?)
[08:23] <Myrtti> knightwise: Doctor Who - S02E01 - Planet of Giants.avi
[08:24] <knightwise> J:\TVShows\Doctor Who (2005)\Season01\Doctor Who (2005).S01E02.The End of the World.avi
[08:24] <knightwise> and
[08:24] <knightwise> J:\TVShows\Doctor Who (1963)\Season01\Doctor Who (1963).S01E01.An Unearthly Child.avi
[08:24] <knightwise> (according to some guy on the plex forum)-
[08:24] <Myrtti> yeah, sounds about right
[08:24] <Myrtti> doesn't it work, then?
[08:24] <knightwise> ok , gonna give that a try
[08:25] <Myrtti> today is the giant bathtub rental delivery day!
[08:25] <Myrtti> wheeeee
[08:25] <popey> I wish I was this easily pleased https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zb_MGIsxeg
[08:27] <Myrtti> hahahahahahaha
[08:27] <Myrtti> oh man that's hilarious
[08:27] <popey> he is apparently a looner
[08:27] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_fetish
[08:27] <knightwise> The only thing i'm wondering about : what do you do with the multipart episoed ?
[08:28] <popey> he has like 80 of them on his channel
[08:28] <knightwise> genesis of the daleks part 1 , part 2 etc
[08:30] <dutchie> presumably they are just separate episodes
[08:30] <dutchie> which happen to have very similar titles
[08:30] <dutchie> (as far as plex is concerned)
[08:35] <knightwise> ah ok ,
[08:35] <knightwise> arrrrright ...
[08:35] <knightwise> i have my work cut out for me renaming a couple of seasons
[08:58] <Myrtti> rename ♥
[08:58] <Myrtti> knightwise: midnight commander is what SO uses, I use plain rename. If you want GUI, then thunar comes with a mass renamer
[09:08] <knightwise> Thanx :) i'll check it out :)
[09:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:27] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[09:29] <davmor2> Morning bigcalm
[10:24] <bigcalm> czajkowski: thank you for the lift. I'm sorry if I made a fool of myself (I can never remember after drinking if I have or not)
[10:44] <bigcalm> Updated my workstation this morning and it's frozen 3 times so far. Each time tried a reboot that resulted in the machine being frozen at the password prompt. Actual power off required.
[10:44] <bigcalm> I haven't frozen for a while this time, and I'm wondering if it's because I haven't loaded skype
[11:32] <kittensarecute> kittensarecute
[11:35] <bigcalm> Anybody here use a Freesat box with Freetime?
[12:37] <diddledan> yawnage
[12:37] <diddledan> morning folks
[13:10] <SuperMatt> loools, someone added a cloud block storage volume to their server and put development stuff on to it
[13:11] <SuperMatt> they figured mounting that on /dev would be a good idea
[13:12] <bigcalm> o.O
[13:13] <SuperMatt> yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
[13:13] <SuperMatt> turns out things fail very quickly when you do that
[13:16] <diddledan> SuperMatt: LOL
[13:16] <diddledan> SuperMatt: that's the best laugh I've had in a while!
[13:20] <shauno> what could possibly go wrong?
[13:22] <shauno> our fun for the day is that there's a new system in place that blocks you if you try to login with XP
[13:22] <shauno> it doesn't appear to be working as intended, and a seemingly random cross-section of people are having their accounts locked regardless of OS
[13:23] <shauno> ... and the lot we oursourced IT to can't unlock an account without your manager's auth.  and guess how many managers work on a bank holiday?
[13:23] <diddledan> shauno: that sounds awesome
[13:23] <shauno> it would be, but they didn't lock mine :(
[13:24] <diddledan> I want a bang holiday
[13:24] <diddledan> :-(
[13:24] <diddledan> *pouty pout*
[13:24] <bigcalm> A bang holiday?
[13:32] <diddledan> bigcalm: it's either something for adults or involves rockets
[13:37] <popey> got the kids a couple of very cheap remote control cars to play with
[13:37] <popey> keeping them busy
[13:37] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Additions%C2%AE-Micro-Remote-Control/dp/B002VJ800U vroom
[13:41] <Czechton> how do I find out if my intel graphics drivers are properly configured
[13:42] <popey> do you see a desktop when you login?
[13:42] <Czechton> yep
[13:42] <bigcalm> Going to see GotG tonight, woop!
[13:43] <bigcalm> popey: ah, that's what was in the tub. Is Sam happy?
[13:43] <Czechton> but in a 3d program the framerate is terrible
[13:43] <popey> Czechton: intel GPUs aren't known for their performance.
[13:43] <popey> bigcalm: very, sophie's arrived today too
[13:43] <Czechton> but on a preconfigured ubuntu install i get good performance on the same hardware
[13:44] <popey> Czechton: what gpu/cpu and what game?
[13:45] <Czechton> CS1.6 on Haswell integrated gpu
[13:46] <Czechton> cpu is an intel celeron 2955U
[13:47] <Czechton> on the preconfigured install the framerate is >60fps on my minimal install the framrate is ~12fps
[13:47] <popey> thats quite a difference
[13:48] <popey> does /var/log/Xorg.0.log reveal which driver you're using?
[13:49] <Czechton> what should i be looking for in there?
[13:50] <Czechton> "DRI driver: i965"
[13:50] <Czechton> "VDPAU driver: i965"
[13:53] <Czechton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952081/
[13:53] <Czechton> for the whole log
[14:14] <diddledan> heh, I just opened the curtains - look at me being awake during the day!
[14:15] <MartijnVdS> *gasps*
[14:19] <diddledan> you know what?
[14:19] <diddledan> www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y
[14:20] <abhi> wassup mofos
[14:20] <abhi> hey diddleda mofo
[14:25] <abhi> diddledan
[14:25] <abhi> hey diddledan motherfucker
[14:25] <diddledan> !language
[14:25] <MartijnVdS> !language
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> also
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> !family
[14:26] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: that wasn't the one I wanted
[14:26] <diddledan> :-p
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: !ohmy?
[14:26] <diddledan> !ohmy
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> they changed it!
[14:26] <diddledan> grr
[14:26] <diddledan> don't you hate when people do things
[14:27] <diddledan> I wish the whole world would just not do anything
[14:27] <diddledan> :-p
[14:27] <MartijnVdS> yes! that would reduce support calls by a *lot*
[14:29] <abhi> sorry
[14:31] <abhi> i said sorry
[14:31] <Czechton> anyone have experience with configuring intel graphoics drivers on 14.04?
[14:32] <abhi> yeah... what d u need?
[14:32] <MartijnVdS> it.. just works?
[14:32] <MartijnVdS> You install Ubuntu... then graphics work out of the box
[14:32] <Czechton> in 3d applications i get very bad performance on my minimal-ubuntu install
[14:33] <Czechton> on a "bodhi-linux" which is a preconfigured ubuntu for this laptop i get good performance
[14:33] <MartijnVdS> And a "normal" Desktop ubuntu?
[14:33] <Czechton> not tried that
[14:34] <Czechton> but judging by comments online it just works
[14:34] <MartijnVdS> then you're probably missing a package. Maybe X is running in VESA mode?
[14:35] <Czechton> ok so how do i check that
[14:35] <MartijnVdS> Czechton: in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:36] <Czechton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952081/
[14:36] <Czechton> thats the log
[14:36] <MartijnVdS> [    67.441] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[14:36] <MartijnVdS> it loads the intel module, that's good
[14:36] <MartijnVdS> I don't know what the problem could be.
[14:37] <Czechton> hmm
[14:37] <MartijnVdS> maybe #ubuntu knows -- there's usually more people around there to help
[14:38] <Czechton> ok I'll ask in there
[14:38] <MartijnVdS> good luck :)
[14:38] <Czechton> thanks for having a look
[14:39] <MartijnVdS> Czechton: for reference, can you put the output of "glxinfo" (only works from X) somewhere too?
[14:42] <Czechton> MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952426/
[14:44] <MartijnVdS> the only difference between your setup and mine seems to be kernel mode setting (kms)
[14:44] <MartijnVdS> also, I have a gt2 (haswell i7) where you have a gt1 (haswell.. non-i7?)
[14:45] <Czechton> its a celeron 2955U
[14:45] <Czechton> in the X.org log it mentions vesa modules being loaded
[14:45] <MartijnVdS> yeah that would have the "lesser" graphics chip. But that wouldn't explain why it works in one and not the other
[14:45] <Czechton> might it be prefering vesa mode over the intel driver?
[14:45] <MartijnVdS> yeah mine mentions that too.
[14:45] <MartijnVdS> It's using intel
[14:48] <Czechton> haha #ubuntu is fairly useless, everyone just told me to install lubuntu
[14:48] <Czechton> :D
[14:49] <Czechton> not really what i was going for, though it would probably work!
[14:50] <MartijnVdS> Dunno
[16:17] <daftykins> Czechton: did you get anywhere?
[16:26] <Czechton> sadly not
[16:26] <Czechton> daftykins: sadly not
[16:26] <daftykins> Czechton: what was the reason for doing a minimal install?
[16:26] <Czechton> think I'll make a post on r/chrubuntu
[16:27] <Czechton> i could have just installed lubuntu but i wanted to mess around with just openbox and very little else
[16:27] <Czechton> and figure out how all the bits of UI fit together
[16:28] <daftykins> wait a minute... chrubuntu, so this is a chromebook?
[16:28] <Czechton> yep
[16:28] <daftykins> ah, in that case this is more likely the chroot'd install of ubuntu running atop the chromeOS install, yes?
[16:28] <Czechton> no
[16:29] <Czechton> its a full install
[16:29] <daftykins> so you enabled dev mode, put on a BIOS that allows direct USB boot... then installed natively to the disk?
[16:29] <Czechton> I have a partition for bodhi linux and a partition for ubuntu-minimal
[16:29] <Czechton> yeh
[16:29] <daftykins> was this using the standard 'mini.iso' then?
[16:29] <Czechton> yep
[16:30] <daftykins> mmk, so do you have the storage space to just apt-get the entire ubuntu-desktop package?
[16:31] <Czechton> yep should do
[16:31] <Czechton> about 6gb left on this partition
[16:32] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to try then :)
[16:32] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:32] <daftykins> might even be worth sharing with us the packages it says it's going to install
[16:35] <Czechton> well this is the package list it just spat at me
[16:35] <Czechton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953251/
[16:36] <daftykins> ouch yeah picking through that'd be fun
[16:39] <Czechton> only thing that jumps out is possibly libgles2-mesa?
[16:41] <Czechton> n
[16:43] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to go a package at a time and experiment, if you fancy it
[16:49] <diddledan> I'd be wary of doing that piecemeal approach unless I was going to blat the install once I'd got it going and start again - reason: apt remembers depended-installations vs requested installations so on upgrades it won't remove stuff you've requested to be installed even when it's no-longer required
[16:50] <daftykins> ic
[16:54] <Czechton> hmm
[16:54] <Czechton> that would be annoying
[16:55] <Czechton> might have to be something I leave until i get back to my desktop in a couple of weeks
[16:56] <Czechton> this is my only computer atm and i don't really feel like doing full reinstalls and reconfiguring everything
[17:27] <ali1234> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[17:27] <ali1234> the ^ is important apparently
[17:28] <diddledan> ali1234: any idea what the caret means?
[17:28] <ali1234> it means task rather than metapackage i think
[17:29] <ali1234> apparently the caret isn't required any more
[17:30] <ali1234> https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel
[17:30] <ali1234> tasks are like metapackages, but different
[17:31] <diddledan> aah, I've heard of tasksel
[17:31] <Czechton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953700/
[17:31] <Czechton> if you're interested in the difference :p
[17:32] <ali1234> yeah the task will likely install more things
[17:32] <ali1234> ubuntu-desktop^ should effectively give you what the full installer would do, more or less
[18:14] <mapps> oops
[18:15] <mapps> went to town to pay money in ended up having 7 pints
[18:15] <mapps> hadnt had a drink for 6 days
[18:15] <mapps> dunno if thats good or bad
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> 7 is a lot
[18:15] <mapps> not to me
[18:15] <mapps> but i became a pro at drinking;p
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> Believe me, it is.
[18:16] <mapps> only left becayse i got offered a lift
[18:16] <mapps> was already thinking about going out later
[18:26] <diddledan> how do I figure out whether a "video" I've acquired is in some codec I don't have vs purposely broken so that I can't play it back no matter how hard I try?
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: "file" ?
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: ffmpeg -i moviefile
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> (no output -- it just outputs codec details)
[18:30] <diddledan> what package is that from?
[18:30] <ali1234> libav probably
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: ffmpeg: /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[18:31] <ali1234> ffmpeg has been replaced by avconv in debian based distros
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: except they still provide ffmpeg
[18:31] <diddledan> o_O
[18:31] <ali1234> not by default
[18:31] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: there is no ffmpeg package
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> libav-tools then maybe
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> which has avconv
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> which is ffmpeg in disguise
[18:31] <ali1234> avconv doesn't even have the ffmpeg compatibility wrapper any more
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> (I hate forkers..)
[18:32] <MartijnVdS> I must have the ffmpeg package left over from ye olden days
[18:33] <diddledan> so avconv -i <filename> doesn't work
[18:35] <davmor2> ali1234, diddledan, MartijnVdS: just use handbrake ;)
[18:35] <diddledan> davmor2: handbrake doesn't know what it is - hence why I want to find out if it's just a missing codec or not
[18:36] <davmor2> diddledan: transcode it in vlc
[18:36] <diddledan> yeah, vlc. tried that
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> I'd first try "file", then ffmpeg/avconv, then exiftool (part of libimage-exiftool-perl)
[18:37] <diddledan> file.avi: data
[18:37] <diddledan> that's useful
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> sounds corrupt
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: anything readable in the first 100 or so bytes (try less)
[18:37] <davmor2> diddledan: might just be an encrypted avi file
[18:38] <ali1234> yeah file should at least be able to identify an avi container
[18:38] <ali1234> even if it was drm'd or something
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> exactly
[18:39] <ali1234> did you download it on a torrent? maybe the beginning of the file is missing... that would do it
[18:40] <diddledan> so is this just a subtle way of trying to get me to install "virused"-codec?
[18:40] <diddledan> it's off usenet
[18:40] <diddledan> which is where torrents are born
[18:40] <ali1234> maybe you didn't reconstruct it properly?
[18:40] <diddledan> it's all automatic
[18:40] <ali1234> was it in a multipart rar? those don't work correctly on linux
[18:41] <diddledan> it's all automatic
[18:41] <diddledan> I have no idea what the original download was
[18:41] <awilkins> One of the RAM modules in my laptop has gone *phut*
[18:41] <ali1234> well on usenet it must have been split over several posts somehow...
[18:41] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: so sad
[18:41] <diddledan> all I know is I have several files which are broke in plex
[18:41] <awilkins> Still have 2GB of RAM. Ubuntu works
[18:41] <ali1234> and there's many different ways of doing that
[18:42] <awilkins> Windows just sits there sulking on the login screen but doesn't show a prompt
[18:43] <awilkins> Windows has a real problem with changes in hardware.... Ubuntu, I can move my main work drive between two different machines at will.
[18:43] <awilkins> But now I can't play Hearthstone.
[18:43] <ali1234> you can do that in windows you just have to run a command before doing it
[18:43] <diddledan> ali1234: it'll be downloaded in whatever format couch-potato and sabnzbd use
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> Windows "OH NO YOU PLUGGED THE KEYBOARD INTO A DIFFERENT USB PORT LET ME INSTALL NEW DRIVERS"
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> Ubuntu "Hey, hardware. I know that!"
[18:44] <awilkins> I know.... like "YOU PLUGGED IN A USB MEMORY STICK I DIDN'T SEE BEFORE... MUST... INSTALL... DRIVERS!"
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> My dad has accepted the Windows way as "normal", so every time I'm impatient he just waves it away, "it always does that". NOT ON MY MACHINE
[18:44] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: totally unrealistic gui!
[18:45] <ali1234> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc721940%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
[18:46] <awilkins> The downside to that is that if I put the faulty RAM module back in it might break stuff
[18:46] <awilkins> Possible that it's ruined the NTFS partition I suppose.
[18:46] <ali1234> removing a ram chip shouldn't break windows
[18:46] <diddledan> awilkins: what ali1234 said
[18:46] <awilkins> Yeah, might have been the faults in the RAM chip I removed
[18:46] <diddledan> awilkins: ram changes are fine normally
[18:47] <awilkins> It boots..
[18:47] <ali1234> you the system check tools in windows
[18:47] <ali1234> *use
[18:47] <awilkins> I can't even log in
[18:47] <ali1234> safe moed?
[18:47] <awilkins> Tried holding ctrl when booting
[18:48] <awilkins> What does Win 7 need?
[18:48] <ali1234> F5/F7?
[18:48] <diddledan> f8
[18:48] <awilkins> HAH, you illustrate my problem ;-)
[18:48] <diddledan> it's f8
[18:48]  * awilkins will now reboot and hammer keys at random
[18:48] <diddledan> mash it while you reboot
[18:48] <ali1234> F5/F7 was windows 98 i think
[18:48] <diddledan> nope win98 used f8, too
[18:48] <ali1234> or maybe it was F5/F8
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> it was
[18:49] <ali1234> i'm sure F5 did something
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> F5 and F8 are actually DOS 6 and up combos
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> to skip config.sys/autoexec.bat or to step through
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> why do I remember this
[18:50] <ali1234> hahaha yeah when it would ask you if you wanted to run each line...
[18:50] <ali1234> and people say linux is too hard to use
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> "Load EMM386.EXE /NOEMS?"
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> HIMEM.SYS?
[18:50] <hirectdex> load?
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> LH
[18:50] <hirectdex> you think we're made of memory?
[18:50] <MartijnVdS> maybe
[18:50] <hirectdex> loadhigh!
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> didn't emm386 do that itself because it was magic?
[18:51] <diddledan> you can't loadhigh until you've load himem and emm386
[18:51] <ali1234> didn't you have to load emm386 first in order to use lh?
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> let memmaker sort'em out
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> (yes, you can use the Hercules graphics segments for RAM, really. This is a VGA machine)
[18:53] <MartijnVdS> I actually re-did all this a few weeks ago. On a PS/2 Model 70 portable.
[18:53] <MartijnVdS> one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di9OQLiwbIU
[18:54] <awilkins> Nope, I don't have the magic recovery disk.
[18:54] <awilkins> Looks like Ubuntu for me.
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: the horror!
[18:54] <awilkins> (and no Hearthstone.)
[18:55] <awilkins> I wanted to play Hearthstone but I guess I'll have to do something useful or edifying *tch*
[18:55] <diddledan> edifying?!
[18:55] <diddledan> you heretic!
[18:57] <MartijnVdS> do you have a licence for that?
[18:57] <diddledan> GPL will do
[18:58]  * diddledan paints a GPL sign onto hearthstone
[18:58] <diddledan> now they must provide us with the sauce
[18:58] <diddledan> tomato, I hope
[19:03]  * awilkins_ has fiddled with Wine
[19:03] <awilkins> Battle.net launcher now works on Ubuntu....
[19:06]  * awilkins copies his Hearthstone folder to ~/.wine
[19:08] <mapps> email at work
[19:08] <mapps> about 40 people going to gib for a bit for a satellite office
[19:08] <mapps> tempted to apply
[19:08] <mapps> anyone been to gib?
[19:09] <awilkins> Oh dear, Hearthstone seems to work in Wine
[19:10]  * awilkins gets back to wasting his time
[19:35] <ali1234> the other day on reddit i saw a google docs spreadsheet with the number of win/mac/linux steam games over time
[19:35] <ali1234> does anyone have the link handy?
[19:37] <ali1234> nvm i found it
[19:38] <ali1234> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai0E-WvppW8GdG9leHFsR2pWWVVxbzgwYUtWakVnd0E&usp=sharing#gid=0
[20:17] <diddledan> ali1234: that's intriguing the way it's paralleling but maintaining separation with mac
[20:17] <diddledan> the way linux is**
[20:18] <ali1234> it takes a long time to write games
[20:18] <ali1234> linux is catching up with mac
[20:18] <ali1234> i expect it will overtake in about 12 months
[20:19] <ali1234> porting a game is a lot easier if you do it during development
[20:20] <ali1234> the gap has always been about 300 games, so i'd guess it's mostly old games that aren't being ported rather than new ones
[20:38] <popey> its also more financially sound to do it during development
[20:38] <popey> especially if it forces you to use cross platform tools
[20:41] <ali1234> yeah, easier usually implies cheaper too :)
[20:42] <ali1234> popey: you backed elite: dangerous right?
[20:42] <ali1234> did you play it yet?
[20:42] <popey> I did not.
[20:42] <popey> (back it)
[20:42] <ali1234> oh i thought you did
[20:43] <popey> was tempted but they were unclear on when/if linux version would be made, so I erred on the side of caution
[20:43] <ali1234> yeah, same, plus i don't really like kickstarters
[20:43] <ali1234> but my brother backed it, so i played it the other day
[20:44] <popey> any good?
[20:44] <popey> i was never really an Elite fan
[20:45] <ali1234> it's just like the original... at least what they have so far
[20:45] <ali1234> the virtual cockpit is really nicely done
[20:45] <ali1234> especially on the oculus rift
[20:45] <popey> ooh
[20:45] <popey> bet thats amazing
[20:45] <popey> never tried an OR yet
[20:45] <popey> i hear the new DK2 sdk doesn't have linux support yet
[20:45] <ali1234> it has a virtual HUD with different screens that pop up when you look around... it's really nicely done
[20:46] <ali1234> very immersive... there's no fullscreen menus
[20:46] <popey> like iron man?
[20:46] <ali1234> exept the load/save/quit main menu thingy
[20:46] <popey> ☻
[20:46] <ali1234> sort of... less hand waving though
[20:46] <popey> no, i mean in his suit
[20:47] <ali1234> hmm... i dunno, i've only seen one of those films once and i can't really remember it
[20:47] <ali1234> but for example, when you look ahead out the main window you see space... look left a bit and the cargo manifest screen appears with a fancy effect... but it looks like it's part of the ship
[20:47] <ali1234> look right and you get the ship status
[20:48] <popey> it detects your head movement to track that?
[20:48] <ali1234> yes
[20:48] <ali1234> it's a virtual cockpit so you can look down and see your feet
[20:48] <ali1234> and look around at instruments etc
[20:48] <ali1234> and the popup screens are like holographic projections
[20:49] <popey> http://jayse.tv/v2/?portfolio=hud
[20:49] <popey> nice
[20:50] <ali1234> yeah it's way less confusing than that
[20:50] <ali1234> imagine a typical triple monitor setup
[20:50] <ali1234> but the two side monitors just disappear when you're not looking at them
[20:52] <popey> oh i see
[20:52] <popey> sounds natty
[20:52] <ali1234> (and the middle monitor is just the window of your ship)
[20:53] <ali1234> here's a video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HAuNIbJF6w
[21:04] <popey> wow, that looks pretty amazing
[21:04] <popey> time to make your own OVR ☻
[21:10] <czajkowski> evening folks
[21:12] <popey> yo
[21:51] <ali1234> how do you enable drivers from the command line in 14.04? what replaced jockey-text?
[21:51] <ali1234> ubuntu-drivers only shows information