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[00:00] <nholloway20071> What's the IRC command to notify a specific user?
[00:01] <coolstar> apb1963: does your router support gigabit ethernet?
[00:02] <daftykins> nholloway20071: this is not IRC client support. go ask in #freenode
[00:02] <nholloway20071> Thanks.
[00:02] <mamece2> daftykins:  i just run update & upgrade and then i got no unity. i think the answer miught be this http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[00:03] <mamece2> can anyone help me with the sound thing.. Ive got "dummy output"
[00:06] <c2h6o> mamece2: what video card do you have?
[00:09] <SDr> hey gals,
[00:10] <SDr> is there a way to see swap/cache breakdown?
[00:10] <SDr> that is, who's swapping what, and what's in there?
[00:11] <linelevel> I'm running Ubutnu 14.04 on my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad T410), and I'm having a serious problem with the X.org open-source Nouveau graphics driver. Specifically, the screen won't turn back on after I resume from suspend. I've tried everything I've seen suggested in forum threads and nothing has worked. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:15] <dcope> is there any sort of RAID that spreads writes across mulitple disks?
[00:15] <nholloway20071> dcope: Doesn't RAID 5 do that?
[00:17] <TJ-> dcope: Raid 0 stripes, Raid 1 mirrors, Raid 5,6 raid 10 ... that's the point of RAID, really :)
[00:17] <dcope> ok cool
[00:17] <dcope> i just want to make sure one disk doesn't get pegged
[00:17] <nholloway20071> TJ-: I know what 0,1, and 5 do. Aren't 6-10 just alterations of 5?
[00:18] <mamece2> c2h6o: help me find out what is my video card plz
[00:19] <SchrodingersScat> !zfs | dcope
[00:19] <ubottu> dcope: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[00:20] <mamece2> can anyone help me with the sound thing.. Ive got "dummy output"
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[00:20] <TJ-> nholloway20071: RAID 10 is just 1+0 , mirrored, then striped
[00:21] <c2h6o> mamece2: try running "lshw | grep -B 10 -A 10 display"
[00:21] <c2h6o> that should give you an idea
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[00:22] <mamece2> c2h6o: I have a Nvidia G72 [GeForce 7300 GS]
[00:22] <TJ-> nholloway20071: well, except for some of the MD raid 10 variations in Linux anyhow
[00:22] <mamece2> c2h6o: can you help me fix the dummy output issue?
[00:22] <c2h6o> mamece2: yeah that's what I thought. Try downloading drivers from Nvidia website
[00:22] <c2h6o> and installing them
[00:23] <c2h6o> dummy output of what?
[00:23] <nholloway20071> TJ-: Ah, okay. Thanks :) I can't set anything up in a RAID config right now anyway, it was more a curiosity question.
[00:23] <mamece2> c2h6o: Ive got no audio, i found out that i have in the sound settings "dummy output"
[00:24] <TJ-> dcope: I'd suggest your focus with RAID should be on recovery, not so much performance ... as in, RAID5 array with few disks is harder to recover than say RAID6, or RAID1, but a RAID0 has no redundancy at all so any disk goes and *poof* there's a hole in your array
[00:25] <c2h6o> mamece2: have you tried googling your problem?
[00:25] <tonyr2k8> +
[00:25] <SchrodingersScat> !google | c2h6o
[00:25] <ubottu> c2h6o: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[00:26] <Asterisks> daftykins: hello, i see my name is going to get me interesting pings XD
[00:27] <daftykins> Asterisks: oh dear :> i shall try to use the symbol instead ;)
[00:27] <Asterisks> daftykins: it's no problem, that's the first time in weeks that it's come up
[00:30] <TJ-> mamece2: Have you looked at "cat /proc/asound/cards" to determine if the hardware is detected?
[00:31] <mamece2> c2h6o: I googled and found things that dont fix it. thats why im here. this is the last resort
[00:32] <Herntz> Hi
[00:32] <TJ-> mamece2: See my question above ^
[00:32] <mamece2> TJ-:  no sundcard D:
[00:32] <mamece2> TJ-: c2h6o: I am reinstalling alsa-base pulseaudio
[00:32] <TJ-> mamece2: OK ... which release of Ubuntu ("cat /etc/issue") and which kernel version ("uname -r") ?
[00:33] <mamece2> TJ-: I did sudo alsa force-reload . after reinstalling. still dummy output
[00:33] <mamece2> TJ-:  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[00:34] <mamece2> TJ-: 3.13.0-32-generic
[00:34] <TJ-> mamece2: OK, so standard very decent kernel... can you "sudo lspci -knnvvv | pastebinit" please?
[00:37] <mamece2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7947342/
[00:38] <TJ-> mamece2: OK, the problem is there is no kernel driver loaded for the audio device
[00:38] <TJ-> mamece2: Can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please?
[00:39] <c2h6o> TJ: how did you find out that the driver is not loaded from the pastebin?
[00:39] <mamece2> TJ-: where can i see the devices loaded in the kernel?
[00:39] <c2h6o> TJ: The address is all 0?
[00:40] <TJ-> c2h6o: The lspci output I requested with "-k" .... it reports the drivers in use for each device
[00:40] <mamece2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7947354/  pastebinit /var/log/dmesg
[00:42] <TJ-> mamece2: unrelated to your other troubles possibly, but dmesg shows there is a failure of the disk controller link to the disk, its failing some (fast) Direct Memory Access (DMA) mode accesses
[00:43] <TJ-> mamece2: it is the Maxtor 7H500F0, HA431DD0 having issues
[00:43] <mamece2> TJ-:  when i was booting I saw that mess.
[00:43] <mamece2> TJ-: thanks. iono but if i disconnect it I could get the audio back (?)
[00:44] <c2h6o> TJ: his pastebin said "Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel"... Just wondering how you found out that it wasn't loaded (I'm a newb)
[00:44] <c2h6o> TJ: Ignore that... I'm an idiot
[00:44] <c2h6o> was looking at my pastebin :D
[00:45] <TJ-> c2h6o: LOL you just made me start - thought I was looking at the wrong pastebin :)
[00:45] <c2h6o> TJ: haha, my bad
[00:45] <TJ-> mamece2: hang on, lets focus on the possible issues one-at-a-time - the problem disk doesn't appear to be the boot disk (it is /dev/sdb) so for now lets focus on the missing kernel driver
[00:46] <mamece2> TJ-:  yes please
[00:49] <TJ-> mamece2: OK, dmesg shows no attempt to load the sound module "snd_hda_intel" which I'd have expected to see, so for starters lets try loading that manually and then seeing what "/var/log/kern.log" reports. First, do "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel". If you get anything *other* than no output tell us what you see. Then do "pastebinit <(tail -n 100 /var/log/kern.log)"
[00:50] <mamece2> TJ-: no output from modprobe
[00:50] <TJ-> mamece2: That is good :)
[00:51] <laspahr> can anyone help..? I can't seem to be able to run an executable file /:
[00:52] <SchrodingersScat> !permissions | laspahr
[00:52] <ubottu> laspahr: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[00:53] <laspahr> I have allowed it to run as executable, but when I hit run it does nothing
[00:53] <mamece2> TJ-: still no out put from "pastebinit <(tail -n 100 /var/log/kern.log"
[00:53] <laspahr> ah nevermind, just opened it in terminal
[00:54] <TJ-> mamece2: You missed off the last closing ")"
[00:54] <laspahr> c
[00:54] <mamece2> TJ-: i just saw that.. sorry
[00:54] <mamece2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7947463/
[00:55] <TJ-> mamece2: OK, you now have sound ("cat /proc/asound/cards")
[00:55] <mamece2> TJ-:  i can see analog output in the sound settings but when i test it i cant hear anything
[00:55] <mamece2> TJ-:  yes i do
[00:56] <TJ-> mamece2: it is possible the sinks (outputs) are mixed up (headphone and speakers reversed), or that it is muted. Try "alsamixer"
[00:56] <Herntz1> hello.
[00:56] <mamece2> TJ-:  OMG its workin!! u sir, is a wizard :)
[00:56] <TJ-> mamece2: after that, we still need to determine why snd_hda_intel wasn't loaded at boot-time
[00:57] <mamece2> TJ-:  so i guess that if i reboot. no sound again. right?
[00:57] <TJ-> mamece2: "grep -n snd_hda_intel /etc/modprobe.d/* | pastebinit"
[00:57] <dreamon> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04. after that i system-monitor, netstat -i, netspeed-applet2 ... doesnt show network traffic anymore. only zero is outputed.
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[00:59] <TJ-> dreamon: are thouse commands targeted at a particular interface name (e.g. "eth0") - I'm wondering if the interface has a different name now ("ip link ls") ?
[00:59] <mamece2> TJ-:  it returns the following message "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[01:00] <TJ-> mamece2: That's cool - means no rules preventing that module from loading. I'm not sure why it didn't load at boot-time, it may be to do with the disk errors, or it may be the device isn't correctly identified. Try a reboot, then come back and tell us if it works. If it does not, we have ways and means of persuading it :)
[01:01] <mamece2> TJ-:  oh yes, i will do it sir. let me try
[01:02] <dreamon> TJ-, eth3 and wlan6 are my interfaces. Bug like this -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/422244/network-traffic-reports-as-zero-bytes
[01:04] <TJ-> dreamon: Your system is using the "alx" driver too ?
[01:04] <daftykins> dreamon: i read about someone running a newer kernel to get interface stats back
[01:05] <dreamon> I think so. -> lsmod | grep alx                                                        <master ✗> -> alx                    32452  0 -> mdio                   13807  1 alx
[01:05] <TJ-> dreamon: yeah, try the latest stable mainline kernel build, if that solves it, you know where the issue is at least: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[01:06] <dreamon> Thank you!
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[01:29] <topkek32juan> hi i installed kubuntu-desktop on my xubuntu 14.04 install, how do i completely remove it with all the kde packages?
[01:30] <TJ-> topkek32juan: in theory, "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" then "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[01:30] <topkek32juan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> topkek32juan: See TJ- 's last :: The problem with installing another desk top is the shared packages, now removing one also removes some of those packages that are in common, that must now be replaced. try -> sudo apt-get remove --purge  kubuntu-desktop , sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop .
[01:35] <mamece2> TJ-: sorry Im late, i have issues with unity.. I have dummy output again TJ
[01:35] <TJ-> Bashing-om: removing "kubuntu-desktop" won't remove anything other than that package, that's the point of the -desktop packages... their Dependency list controls what is actually required, so when they are removed any packages which are no longer referenced by another Depends are candidates for removal with "autoremove". There is no need to re-install an already installed alternative -desktop
[01:36] <TJ-> mamece2: OK ... let's solve the snd_hda_intel issue... I can't help you with Unity, I don't use it
[01:36] <mamece2> TJ-:  what desktop manager use pros like you
[01:36] <mamece2> ?
[01:36] <Awoken> anyone had issues with antialiasing fonts in unity? I tried turning it off, but it just makes all fonts lool awful.  with the lowest setting, small fonts are over antialiased
[01:36] <TJ-> mamece2: "echo snd_hda_intel | sudo tee -a /etc/modules"
[01:37] <TJ-> mamece2: I use KDE (kubuntu) simply because it can cope with this GPU/monitor configuration
[01:37] <mamece2> TJ-:  I did sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel and the audio is workin
[01:37] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^^ thanks for that , as I live and learn ... ( have some faith in the package manager ) .
[01:37] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I think it is one of the bets parts of the Debian system
[01:38] <mamece2> TJ-:  snd_hda_intel
[01:38] <TJ-> Bashing-om: It is why I chose Debian/Ubuntu based distros rather than RPM based
[01:38] <TJ-> mamece2: if you run the command I showed you it will have added the kernel module name to the end of the file "/etc/modules", which is read at boot-time to manually load kernel modules
[01:39] <TJ-> mamece2: you can check that by doing "cat /etc/modules" and ensuring it is there
[01:39] <mamece2> TJ-:  i was about to
[01:39] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Agreed, That and the support that is available in ubuntu sold me away from other linux distros some time back .. but still learning this one !
[01:40] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I don't think we can ever stop learning with F/OSS ... it doesn't sit still for long enough :)
[01:40] <topkek32juan> not working
[01:40] <mamece2> TJ-:  ok it is added to the /Etc/modules files. Is this the best way to fix it?
[01:42] <MrPockets> hey!
[01:42] <TJ-> mamece2: When the system doesn't automatically figure out to load a module, yes
[01:42] <TJ-> topkek32juan: neither am I
[01:42] <mamece2> TJ-:  thanks very much., i will reboot and try to fix unity. thank you again,
[01:42] <topkek32juan> well
[01:42] <topkek32juan> i have no kde packages
[01:42] <topkek32juan> nut
[01:42] <topkek32juan> but
[01:42] <Bashing-om> TJ-: "it doesn't sit still for long enough" next we hve to re-learn systemD . Great !
[01:42] <MrPockets> Is there an easy way to turn off all this hippidy dippidy bullshit in 12.04?
[01:42] <topkek32juan> my taskbar looks kde color, and so does my desktop
[01:43] <topkek32juan> and my right click 2, even if i change the theme
[01:43] <TJ-> topkek32juan: Sounds like you've been playing with themes to me
[01:43] <topkek32juan> nope just installed the kubuntu-destkop :(
[01:43] <TJ-> topkek32juan: Well, not being able to see what you see, it is difficult to deduce that :)
[01:43] <daftykins> screenshot
[01:44] <topkek32juan> http://i.imgur.com/EzQasZK.png
[01:44] <bazhang> !notunity | MrPockets also please no cursing here
[01:44] <ubottu> MrPockets also please no cursing here: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.
[01:46] <TJ-> topkek32juan: Have you logged out since removing the packages?
[01:46] <MrPockets> Thanks bazhang
[01:46] <topkek32juan> yes
[01:46] <topkek32juan> and rebooted
[01:46] <TJ-> topkek32juan: I'm not sure what to expect to see, so I can't really help you any further
[01:47] <topkek32juan> TJ-: the taskbar was black and my right click menu was black aswell, its not applying any theme i select
[01:51] <snadge> i need a remote desktop solution that can detach/attach to an existing desktop session.. ie.. not create another one.. whats the easiest program to use for this?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> topkek32juan: Might try reseting the xfce4 desktop back to defaults ??
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[01:52] <topkek32juan> how
[01:54] <Bashing-om> topkek32juan: First kill all running instances of XFCE-panel: -> killall xfce4-panel  <-, Then remove its configuration folder (while also backing it up) -> mv ~/.config/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/panelbackup <-. At this point I prefer to reboot rather then re-start the desktop.
[01:54] <TJ-> topkek32juan: Bashing-om I would assume that the per-user desktop (theme) settings in dfconf, or ~/.conf/ or ./local/share/ may have been written by KDE, and XFE reads them but doesn't re-rewrite the particular setting when it changes themes
[01:55] <TJ-> topkek32juan: An easy test is to log-in as the Guest user and see if that desktop is as you expect... if it is, you've narrowed it down to a per-user account issue
[02:00] <Bashing-om> TJ-: topkek32juan // reading -> The color of scrollbars, menus, buttons, etc. are all determined by your current theme, which is found under Appearance/Style in the Settings Manager. -> /usr/share/themes/<theme_name> (??).
[02:01] <topkek32juan> TJ-: yep, logging into a guest and the theme is fixed
[02:02] <harushimo> does ubuntu 14.04 LTS come with python 3.x or 2.x as default
[02:02] <harushimo> ?
[02:03] <somsip> harushimo: 2.7.6 (with 3.4 too)
[02:03] <OerHeks> both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python
[02:03] <harushimo> I've been seeing the last couple versions. python 2.x has been default
[02:04] <harushimo> I was thinking about upgrade to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS
[02:04] <somsip> harushimo: 2.7.6 is the default (/usr/bin/python) and 3.4 is available (/usr/bin/python3)
[02:04] <Bashing-om> harushimo: Mine : sysop@1404mini -> ii  python         2.7.5-5ubunt amd64 .
[02:04] <harushimo> 2.7.6 on my mine
[02:04] <harushimo> another quick questions
[02:05] <harushimo> I mean question.  Why isn't Ubuntu really pushing for python 3.x?
[02:05] <daftykins> this is not the place for policy discussion
[02:05] <harushimo> I'm really curious
[02:05] <harushimo> I've been using since 7.1
[02:05] <somsip> harushimo: read the link OerHeks gave you
[02:06] <TJ-> harushimo: We are
[02:06] <TJ-> harushimo: The issue is that so many packages are using Python 2.7 constructs that it is a major job to update them, and many are outside of the core-devs remit too
[02:06] <harushimo> That is what I thought
[02:07] <TJ-> harushimo: so in some cases we wait for 'upstream' to adopt 3.x since Ubuntu doesn't want to carry and maintain patches
[02:07] <harushimo> make sense
[02:07] <harushimo> Python 3.x has been around at least few years
[02:07] <harushimo> If you core packages are still done in 2.x, make sense to continue support it
[02:08] <TJ-> harushimo: there was a big push for 14.04 and most core scripts were updated, but there is a *lot* of code under the hood written in Python that requires testing
[02:10] <harushimo> right
[02:10] <harushimo> that is one of questions. I continue to ask myself. How to port older code to the newer standard
[02:10] <harushimo> thanks TJ-
[02:11] <harushimo> by all the means, I'm not trying to start arguement. I was just asking some questions
[02:12] <harushimo> thanks everyone answering my questions
[02:12] <harushimo> I appreciate it
[02:26] <ryan_46> k2
[02:28] <aspis_> hey, can somebody help me? Ubuntu is crashing when I use a game
[02:28] <ax562> hello
[02:28] <aspis_> I think it is a problem with the NVIDIA drivers
[02:28] <jleoley> hey guys
[02:29] <dcope> im trying to SSH into a 12.04 server but it keeps freezing after showing the Last login
[02:29] <dcope> what gives? :(
[02:30] <Loshki> dcope: do you have root access to the server?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> ax562: Ya get the partitioning expanded ?
[02:31] <dcope> Loshki: yes
[02:31] <dcope> werid, i just killed it with enter, ~, . and after 3 tries it finally let me in
[02:33] <Loshki> dcope: run the client with debug turned on. If that looks ok, run the server with debug turned on. If you can't make sense of the logs, you can pastebin them...
[02:33] <ax562> Bashing-om: yup.  For some reason gparted boot disk wouldn't do it but ubuntu boot disk did.  Weird.
[02:33] <ax562> Once in ubuntu just used gparted and it worked in a snap.
[02:34] <Bashing-om> ax562: Stgange people these file systems ! // good it finally went your way ..
[02:34] <Bashing-om> strange*
[02:36] <aspis_> can anybody tell me why Ubuntu might crash when running games? I think I am having a problem with NVIDIA drivers
[02:37] <ax562> Bashing-om: yeah, I just REALLY didn't feel like messing up all my partitions and starting from scratch.  Maybe I was being a LITTLE TOO catious.
[02:37] <ax562> experience has taught me that is the best way to go though.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> ax562: Saftey = no accident. I have pondered on things for weeks, making up the plan before making the 1st move.
[02:43] <ax562> Bashing-om: agreed.  The thing is I have been bulding from source but my  final product hasn't been working.  I'm actually building cyanogenmod from source as we speak.  Reason why I kind of just wanted to jump into resizing partition.
[02:46] <Beldar> ax562, I can't believe your still obsessing on that gparted issue, it is an app you are not even familiar with, could itb have been user error, that is the most often answer.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Beldar: I asked .
[02:47] <ax562> Beldar: who is obsessing?  Bash was asking a question.  But you seem to want to keep butting in.
[02:47] <daftykins> be nice.
[02:47] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Ah, and the oh say at least 25 reference on that day to it were not a red flag?
[02:48] <Beldar> jujst saying. ;)
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Beldar: : ) , thanks .. I do appreciate the hand holding .
[02:51] <ax562> Bashing-om: What ubuntu version are you on?
[02:52] <Beldar> Bashing-om, nice , I will use that in my dissertation defense. ;)
[02:52] <Hoojay> hello
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Beldar: OK .. LOL ..
[02:53] <Beldar> <ax562> Beldar: who is obsessing?  Bash was asking a question.  But you seem to want to keep butting in. Coming from a user who had to be shown the full use of the app by me.
[02:53] <ax562> Beldar: yes you are god. keep moving.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> ax562: I do quadruple boot ( testing and verification) // my  "work" station is 14.04's kernel on a ubuntu-core install -> build your own.
[02:55] <ax562> What's ubuntu-core install?  Quadruple boot?!? dam what os'?
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[02:56] <Bashing-om> ax562: Getting a bit to far off topic .. but all 'buntus .
[02:57] <ax562> Bashing-om: that's cool.  You ever run different linux flavors?
[02:58] <nevermoreraven> how do I install cinnamon on ubuntu?
[02:59] <Beldar> nevermoreraven, I don't think it is in any repos of supported ubuntu releases right now, there is a unsupported ppa though.
[02:59] <rww> correct, it's only in saucy and utopic :(
[02:59] <nevermoreraven> where do I get the ppa?
[02:59] <rww> google for it. it's not supported here
[02:59] <Beldar> nevermoreraven`google cinnamon ppa
[03:00] <xangua> launchpad.net
[03:02] <Beldar> nevermoreraven, That help apra-poe.
[03:02] <nevermoreraven> what?
[03:03] <Beldar> nevermoreraven, Uh.. poe hint hint
[03:11] <Basketball> how can i get usb keyvboard to wake ubuntu from suspend
[03:12] <jiwan> how to make offline package so that i can install compiled app on another machine ...
[03:14] <Beldar> Basketball, Have you tried every usb port?
[03:15] <Basketball> yes
[03:15] <muck> C programming, would this divide a number with out going below 0? -1 -2, etc, I want it to stop at 0 or before it goes over, while (rounded/25 >= 0)
[03:16] <Beldar> Basketball, Use nicks here please. What else have you done?
[03:16] <Basketball> Beldar,  google but couldnt find anything
[03:16] <Beldar> Basketball, What ubuntu release?
[03:16] <Basketball> 14.04.1
[03:17] <Basketball> and 12.04
[03:17] <Basketball> Beldar, ^
[03:18] <Beldar> Basketball, Does it come up with moving the mouse?
[03:18] <Basketball> no
[03:19] <Basketball> Beldar,  ony laptop built in keyboard
[03:19] <Beldar> Basketball, So if you suspend it is gone?
[03:19] <Basketball> no i can wake from built in keyboard Beldar
[03:19] <jiwan> can any one tell me how to manage dependencies while compiling from source ..?????
[03:20] <Beldar> Basketball, Ah, not sure, I would look at askubuntu with that computer model, must be a config for this I forget the gui.
[03:20] <Beldar> or google with the model and issue Basketball
[03:21] <Beldar> Basketball, Suspend is a problem at times with specific computers is all, no clear fix on some.
[03:22] <Basketball> hey Beldar  can i reset my bashrc back to factory defaults
[03:23] <Beldar> Basketball, Not sure on that, I lnow basically what I have needed or seen here or in forums basically. ;)
[03:23] <Beldar> know*
[03:24] <Basketball> Beldar,  just found it do you want to know
[03:24] <Beldar> Basketball, sure
[03:24] <Basketball> mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.messed
[03:24] <Basketball> cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc
[03:24] <Beldar> I do likes to learn
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[03:30] <jiwan> what is this "gcc: error: (Ubuntu/Linaro: No such file or directory"
[03:33] <subcool_> help with removing packages - install remove -f isnt working. i did remove --purge, but they have dependencies
[03:33] <subcool_> i ran across a command that said --force-all - but that errored because of inproper syntex..
[03:33] <subcool_> someone - please
[03:36] <jiwan> how to check dependenceies for any package
[03:36] <jiwan> please help ...
[03:37] <muck> how would i check if a number is a float? this seems to not work.  while (mount != int)
[03:38] <Bashing-om> subcool_: I can try -> sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit <- to show the errors that are generated.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> jiwan: apt-cache depends <package_name> , apt-cache rdepends <package_name> .
[03:40] <jiwan> what does rdepends...
[03:40] <jiwan> does it remove the rdepends
[03:41] <jiwan> sorry remove the dependencies ...
[03:41] <Bashing-om> jiwan: (r)everse depends .
[03:41] <jiwan> what does mean that...
[03:42] <jiwan> actually i try to install flowbade but on the stage of ./configure so many error occur.. i just stuck...
[03:43] <Bashing-om> jiwan: A particular packages dependencies: apt-cache depends .... the packageages that depend on that particular package: apt-cache rdepends : )
[03:44] <jiwan> Bashing-om: I Tried to do so ..but it shows me the problem that package is not found on the reposotories ...
[03:45] <jiwan> E: No packages found
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[03:45] <jiwan> Bashing-om: I Tried to do so ..but it shows me the problem that package is not found on the reposotories ...
[03:45] <subcool_> Bashing-om, ok, no fair. it works now.. idk how or why..
[03:45] <jiwan> Bashing-om: I Tried to do so ..but it shows me the problem E: No packages found
[03:46] <crazyhorse> is there a PDF creation program in ubuntu.. for merging editing pdfs
[03:47] <shifuimam> anyone around with USB debugging experience? we're trying to get a USB keyboard dock working in 13.3
[03:48] <Bashing-om> jiwan: Then you will have to find those dependencies and - as they are not in the repository - ya gots to man up and compile them too .
[03:48] <Bashing-om> subcool_: Sometimes it is just amazing how the package manager sorts it's self out .
[03:49] <shifuimam> the OS sees the keyboard and mouse that are in the keyboard dock; it's just not actually using it
[03:49] <crazyhorse> hey i can't open software center.. it just closes.. what should i do?
[03:51] <matty_r> good morning all
[03:55] <daftykins> shifuimam: 13.3 what?
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[04:04] <ZeroSoul> sup
[04:04] <ballison> i've upgraded from ubuntu 8 to 12.04 today
[04:04] <ballison> is there a way i can upgrade from here to ubuntu 14 directly?
[04:04] <ZeroSoul> bund any linux distro for that mattertu an is my first day using x
[04:04] <ZeroSoul> wow stf
[04:04] <ZeroSoul> wtf
[04:04] <ballison> the gui seems to want to go from 12.04 to 12.10... and then step by step to 14.
[04:05] <shifuimam> daftykins: aha i meant 3.13
[04:05] <shifuimam> kernel
[04:05] <ZeroSoul> first day using xubunt and  first time usuing linux
[04:05] <ballison> so is it possible to go straight to 14 from 12.04 ?
[04:06] <daftykins> ballison: yes, assuming you're fully up to date in 12.04, "do-release-upgrade -p"
[04:06] <ballison> daftykins:  it gives me a 404 Not Found error
[04:07] <ZeroSoul> any help
[04:07] <ZeroSoul> i have no idea how to use xubuntu
[04:07] <daftykins> ballison: with -p ?
[04:08] <ballison> daftykins: yes
[04:08] <daftykins> ZeroSoul: you're going to have to be a bit more specific
[04:08] <ZeroSoul> how do i make it look less shit
[04:09] <ZeroSoul> and what are some things that i need to know to make it an easier switch from windows 7
[04:10] <ballison> i think i got it... i changed it from Normal to lts ...
[04:10] <ballison> seems the later releases of ubuntu make it harder and harder to upgrade.   i couldn't even find the upgrade-manager....
[04:10] <ZeroSoul> also how do i do the whole window tiling thing
[04:10] <daftykins> ballison: i find that hard to believe
[04:13] <ballison> i hate the dock so much.. and i can't find anything... there's not application tab in the menu bar.
[04:13] <ballison> i always have to convert back to ubuntu classic to be able to use it.
[04:14] <AceFace> hello all!
[04:15] <AceFace> I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed and everytime i reboot, i lose networking. but when i log in, i have to uncheck "Enable Networking" then recheck it and it comes back
[04:15] <AceFace> how do i fix that?
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[04:27] <Beldar> AceFace, This a desktop login, if not tell us which and is this a local network or are you saying wifi?
[04:28] <Beldar> just trying to confirm definitions
[04:39] <zacwalls> i activated root on my shell. how do i deactivate it?
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[04:40] <Beldar> zacwalls, How did you activate it?
[04:40] <zacwalls> sudo passwd root
[04:40] <zacwalls> and sudo -u passwd root
[04:41] <Beldar> zacwalls, hmm, never seen that, so this is just a terminal rooted?
[04:41] <zacwalls> no
[04:41] <zacwalls> well yes
[04:42] <zacwalls> but it has an on and off mechanism.
[04:42] <eeee> zacwalls: sudo passwd root will change the root password
[04:42] <zacwalls> i did
[04:42] <eeee> zacwalls: sudo -u passwd root makes no sense, it tries to execute the command "root" as user "passwd"
[04:42] <zacwalls> but sudo -u passwd root
[04:43] <zacwalls> i have know root bin
[04:43] <eeee> i think you wanted sudo -u root passwd , but you changed it already
[04:44] <zacwalls> i getz confused wuth commands
[04:45] <zacwalls> and it was sudo -u root passwd
[04:46] <Beldar> zacwalls, Why would you make a root password in ubuntu if I understand this?
[04:46] <zacwalls> i was bored and its xubuntu 13.04
[04:47] <Beldar> !root | zacwalls
[04:47] <ubottu> zacwalls: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:47] <Beldar> !eol | zacwalls
[04:47] <ubottu> zacwalls: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[04:47] <ashukaul> how to mount qemu-nbd image Read write, it always get mounted as Read Only
[04:47] <ashukaul> /dev/nbd0p1 on /disk1 type ufs (ro,ufstype=ufs2)
[04:48] <zacwalls> i didn't guess
[04:48] <ashukaul> when I use -w option it gives an error
[04:48] <ashukaul> mount: block device /dev/nbd0p1 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given
[04:48] <zacwalls> and i dont have a root bin
[04:48] <Beldar> zacwalls, read closer a root password is not needed nor a good thing.
[04:49] <Beldar> and you're running a eol
[04:49] <zacwalls> i was testing out stuff like emergency things like if i ever had to enter samf mode with a root shell
[04:50] <Beldar> zacwalls, That makes no sense
[04:51] <zacwalls> sudo -i
[04:51] <Beldar> confusion on commands and boredom are a bad combo with just doing bad practices
[04:51] <zacwalls> so how do i change back to sudo user
[04:52] <zacwalls> oh wait never mind
[04:52] <eeee> zacwalls: just disable the root account, and just don't forget your user's password.
[04:52] <Beldar> zacwalls, 13.04 is eol there is no real use for it, I would install a supported release.
[04:53] <eeee> it's a security hazzard, if you made another sudo'd user it would still be better, cause nobody could guess the login as 'root' as easily.
[04:54] <cesurasean_> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 inside a virtualbox vm, and at choosing keyboard layout, it freezes after pressing continue. any ideas?
[04:54] <madman_> Hi
[04:55] <madman_> is anyone alive out there?
[04:55] <Beldar> cesurasean_, Have you sum checked the iso?
[04:55] <Beldar> cesurasean_, How much memory is allocated?
[04:55] <cesurasean_> its not the iso. that's fine.
[04:55] <cesurasean_> enough memory is allocated.
[04:56] <cesurasean_> it just freezes for some odd reason.
[04:56]  * Beldar looks for for their Kanak cap
[04:56] <Beldar> Karnak*
[04:57] <Beldar> cesurasean_, Maybe try #vbox
[04:57] <Beldar> might need more graphic allocation who knows really not enough info
[04:59] <sudheer> Hi All - Can someone help me on how to mount my Nokia lumia mobile in ubuntu 14.04
[05:00] <Beldar> sudheer, does it show when you run lsusb in the terminal?
[05:01] <Beldar> sudheer,This android?
[05:01] <sudheer> Beldar - I haven't tried that, but it showing up in my computer but not able to open
[05:01] <sudheer> no  its windows
[05:01] <Beldar> sudheer, No idea here.
[05:02] <sudheer> oh, my bad
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[05:11] <bugtraq> Hello All :]
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[05:12] <Guest93778> take print now
[05:31] <tom_cruise> I have a process that starts up automatically. I try to kill it but I get a response that it doesn't exist, so I run a script that starts said process but I am told that the process is already running. What do I do?
[05:33] <tom_cruise> Can anyone help me? :/
[05:35] <ax562> tom_cruise: I like your movies.
[05:35] <tom_cruise> ax562: I can give you super powers...if you help.
[05:35] <tom_cruise> Like flying
[05:36] <ax562> lol
[05:36] <tom_cruise> Don't laugh at me. I'll sue you.
[05:36] <ashukaul>  still seeing the err. ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write
[05:36] <eeee> tom_cruise: what are you using to kill the process?
[05:36] <ax562> have you tried getting the pid and killing the process?
[05:39] <tom_cruise> eeee: sudo killall -9 .proxy.pid ax562: ps ax | grep .proxy.pid
[05:39] <eeee> tom_cruise: try pkill <name>
[05:39] <tom_cruise> eeee: name as in process name?
[05:39] <eeee> yeah
[05:40] <tom_cruise> one moment please
[05:41] <tom_cruise> eeee: When I entered in the command it seemed to work. There was no output. However when I tried to run the script to start the process, the output was that the process was already started. Also, I should mention that the script runs a daemon
[05:43] <tom_cruise> eeee: would you like a link about the script?
[05:45] <k03ll> Hi i went weird. Just started firefox and no css is loaded. I may hit some weird shortcut. How do I enable css in firefox?
[05:45] <eeee> tom_cruise: try service --status-all , do you see it there?
[05:46] <joe-w-bimedina> is there a way to highlight the word before or after the cursor with a keyboard shortcut in gedit
[05:46] <eeee> joe-w-bimedina: ctrl+shift+arrow, i think
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[05:47] <joe-w-bimedina> thanks alot, you just saved me a lot of typing:)
[05:47] <eeee> np :)
[05:48] <tom_cruise> eeee: It's hard to say what the process name is to me. I think it is .proxy.pid but I'm afraid I might be misinterpretting line 39 of https://github.com/jtripper/reverse-proxy/blob/master/proxy.py
[05:49] <eeee> tom_cruise: i think that's a file name with the proxy's pid
[05:49] <eeee> tom_cruise: you could try searching for it
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[05:50] <tom_cruise> eeee: I tried, locate .proxy.pid and got nothing...I know I am missing something here
[05:50] <eeee> find / -name *proxy.pid*
[05:51] <eeee> or *proxy.pid ? (same difference)
[05:52] <eeee> never mind
[05:52] <tom_cruise> eeee: ? I'm trying it now
[05:52] <eeee> it should pick up find / -name .proxy.pid
[05:53] <tom_cruise> eeee: I got the directory of the script. So is this a hidden file or something?
[05:53] <eeee> yeah it's a hidden file
[05:53] <eeee> i think
[05:53] <tom_cruise> eeee: so I delete it and I should be fine then?
[05:54] <eeee> try to cat it for the pid maybe?
[05:54] <tom_cruise> got it
[05:54] <eeee> ok ps aux | grep <pid>
[05:54] <eeee> get the process name
[05:55] <eeee> if it's there
[05:55] <johnny_> Anyone here?
[05:55] <tom_cruise> eeee: I got output, don't know what to make of it: server    3212  0.0  0.5  11744   900 pts/16   S+   01:55   0:00 grep --color=auto 4417
[05:57] <eeee> 4417 is the pid ?
[05:57] <tom_cruise> eeee: I guess so
[05:57] <xorox90> Is there way to speed up mouse wheel? My mid finger hurts..
[05:58] <tom_cruise> xorox90: move your finger faster
[05:58] <xorox90> oh no.... ..
[05:58] <tom_cruise> xorox90: just kidding
[05:59] <eeee> tom_cruise: i guess the pid isn't there, i guess you could kill -9 it
[05:59] <xorox90> really ubuntu have no mid wheel speed settings support
[05:59] <eeee> dunno if that'll do anything
[05:59] <eeee> maybe rename the .proxy.pid file see what happens
[06:00] <eeee> xorox90: i'm sure you can get it to scroll faster
[06:00] <tom_cruise> eeee: I found a solution....simply delete the file...well, that's the solution the script gives
[06:01] <xorox90> eeee: Can you show me docu please?
[06:02] <xorox90> I tried imwheel, it increase wheel scroll, but makes othere problem, forward, backward button dosen't works
[06:02] <eeee> tom_cruise: cool
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[06:02] <eeee> xorox90: ok, hold on
[06:02] <xorox90> eeee: thanks in advanced!
[06:03] <tom_cruise> eeee: thanks.
[06:04] <eeee> xorox90: you're gonna laugh, but i found one solution is to unplug it then plug it back in
[06:04] <eeee> give it a try.. see if it works
[06:04] <eeee> :D
[06:05] <xorox90> I see similar... but not works... : ( ....
[06:06] <Guest2948> Hi
[06:06] <Guest2948> My tor browser have some problem.
[06:06] <Guest2948> error message is 'Aug 04 14:59:58.666 [Error] Reading config failed--see warnings above.'
[06:06] <Guest2948> how can I fix it?
[06:10] <BoomerBile> is there an ffmpeg binary in ubuntu?
[06:11] <kilosat> ciao
[06:11] <kilosat> !list
[06:11] <ubottu> kilosat: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
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[06:12] <m1xr47> hello
[06:18] <Kryptron> cougar ficken
[06:20] <eeee> xorox90: still there?
[06:21] <xorox90> eeee: yeah I'm still
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[06:24] <eeee> xorox90: i found it :D
[06:24] <eeee> tried it on my laptop's integrated mouse, it's changing it
[06:25] <eeee> xorox90: do you have pastebinit ?
[06:27] <xorox90> eeee: pastebinit??? I didn't heard of it...
[06:27] <xorox90> http://pastebin.com/ ?
[06:27] <eeee> it sends stuff to the ubuntu paste site automatically
[06:28] <xorox90> Oh I see it
[06:28] <xorox90> that's cool I didn't know that although I know pastebin
[06:28] <eeee> if you want to install it sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:28] <xorox90> I already installed what should I send?
[06:29] <eeee> ok, type xinput --list --short | pastebinit
[06:29] <eeee> and give me the link it gives you
[06:29] <xorox90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7949410/
[06:29] <xorox90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7949412/
[06:30] <eeee> try xinput --list-props "Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:2008"
[06:30] <xorox90> I changed 'Evdev Wheel Emulation Inertia' before,  but it dosen't works....
[06:30] <eeee> does it give you a list of stuff ?
[06:31] <eeee> xorox90: i tried something here out of guessing, not from the sites
[06:31] <eeee> the "Scrolling distance", i set it to 1, 1 and the scroll became extremely hyper
[06:31] <xorox90> yeah it give a list
[06:31] <eeee> ok try
[06:31] <xorox90> oh but..
[06:31] <eeee> try xinput --list-props "Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:2008" | pastebinit
[06:32] <xorox90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7949424/
[06:32] <xorox90> there is no option such as Scrolling distance.. so sad..
[06:33] <eeee> yeah, this is mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/7949425/
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[06:33] <xorox90> mine is actually wireless mouse keyboard combo
[06:33] <eeee> try xinput --list-props "Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:101b" | pastebinit
[06:34] <eeee> i see
[06:34] <xorox90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7949433/
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[06:45] <Guest67293> >smuxi autoconnects to freenode #ubuntu after install
[06:45] <Guest67293> wow super
[06:46] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <eeee> xorox90: still there?
[06:51] <eeee> xorox90: i'm extremely hungry, i was reading the man page of xinput, and if you type --watch-props instead of --list-props, it will show you which properties are being changed in real time, so i tried to change the natural scrolling option in ubuntu ( settings > mouse) and it gave me the "Scrolling distance", so what you need to do is try that on your pc and see what it gives you, and then modify that property, i gtg eat now sorry
[06:52] <eeee> xorox90: this is to change the property xinput --set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" 277 121 121   (that applies on my xinput list)
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[06:52] <eeee> change the 121 to whatever you want it seems the lower the number the more scrolling you get
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[06:58] <jim_> anyone know how to shut down the mouse through the terminal so it won't come back till you ask it to
[06:58] <Blue1> ?
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[06:59] <jim_> i mean the lap top touch pad control
[07:01] <jim_> so that when your typing and drag your hand on the pad you dont advertantly inadvertantly move things around on the screen and loos e youf place
[07:01] <eeee> jim_: you don't have to turn the mouse off for that
[07:01] <eeee> just turn off 'tap to click'
[07:01] <jim_> oh is that so what can i do then
[07:02] <eeee> i turned that off right away, i kept moving stuff around by mistake even while not typing
[07:02] <jim_> ok how did you turn it off
[07:03] <eeee> you don't have to turn it off though, there's another option disable while typing
[07:03] <eeee> go to settings > mouse
[07:03] <jim_> ok
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[07:24] <perry> has anyone seen this error message before during installation? https://i.imgur.com/hPfso7y.jpg
[07:25] <acerimmer> perry, nope.  that is a screwy, nonesensical error message which causes me to question the integrity of your install media ... you DID verify your install media, right?
[07:26] <lavieja> Holaa
[07:27] <acerimmer> !es | lavieja,
[07:27] <ubottu> lavieja,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[07:27] <lavieja> Hello
[07:27] <acerimmer> lavieja, ask your ubuntu question
[07:27] <lavieja> What?
[07:28] <acerimmer> !topic | lavieja
[07:28] <ubottu> lavieja: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:29] <lavieja> Hi
[07:29] <HiMaX> Hello ubuntu, how to save the session of all folders that were open from the last session ?
[07:29] <HiMaX> i dont like opening alot of the same folders again
[07:30] <lavieja> wtf
[07:30] <M^tt> Hello, I have a ubuntu machine that brings up br0 on boot, the ipv4 address works from the config in /etc/network/interfaces but I can not get the ipv6 address to come up on boot from this config. If after boot I add the address manually with ip or ifconfig it works fine
[07:30] <acerimmer> lavieja, this is ubuntu support.   no profanity required or permitted.  if you have a support question --- ASK IT
[07:31] <lavieja> ubuntu is great!
[07:31] <acerimmer> !ot|lavieja
[07:31] <ubottu> lavieja: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:32] <Beldar> HiMaX, This the unity desktop?
[07:32] <Beldar> what ubuntu release?
[07:32] <HiMaX> Beldar: on second pc, 14.04
[07:33] <acerimmer> Beldar, cross posted to xubuntu - working with him now
[07:33] <Beldar> cool
[07:33] <perry> acerimmer: I've verified the USB before starting install
[07:33] <Beldar> easiest os to do this in
[07:36] <acerimmer> perry did you verify the downloaded ISO before you made the USB?
[07:38] <perry> acerimmer: nope, I suppose I can do that... but it would've likely come up during the media verification.
[07:39] <perry> fuck computers
[07:39] <acerimmer> perry, wrong.  drop the profanity.
[07:40] <acerimmer> !md5sum | perry, the ONLY thing "media verification" verifies is that the file you wanted to copy was done accurately.  if you have a faulty source file, you'll have a faulty USB.
[07:40] <ubottu> perry, the ONLY thing "media verification" verifies is that the file you wanted to copy was done accurately.  if you have a faulty source file, you'll have a faulty USB.: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:44] <perry> hmm, md5 of source file matches
[07:44] <acerimmer> perry, good!  md5 the USB as well - instructions in the link above.
[07:47] <edition> my battery lasts less than 2 hours on xubuntu.
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[07:52] <edition> ive tried using cpufreqd
[07:52] <unitypunk> heyy..
[07:52] <shndns> hi
[07:53] <M^tt> ok so I added a pre-up sleep 1 to my ipv6 conf in /etc/network/interfaces and now it comes up on boot fine
[07:53] <unitypunk> i just did the hardware update.
[07:53] <unitypunk> from 12.04
[07:53] <unitypunk> and now im getting artifacts on my screen
[07:53] <JohndoeFound> Hi
[07:54] <unitypunk> screen looks like this now
[07:54] <unitypunk> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15647576/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[07:55] <unitypunk> seems like im having redraw issues
[07:55] <unitypunk> aswell
[07:55] <edition> is it a software, or hardware issue?
[07:55] <unitypunk> it happened after i updated the kernal from 12.04
[07:56] <unitypunk> it said somthing about being unsupported.
[07:56] <unitypunk> after 8/1
[07:56] <JohndoeFound> hi
[07:56] <JohndoeFound> what is up unity
[07:56] <JohndoeFound> How is everyone
[07:56] <acerimmer> JohndoeFound, ask your ubuntu question
[08:02] <kostas> hello there! a quick question: i cannot understand the bahaviour of 'sort' in linux. Why if I have "testx" and "Test", sort first returns "Test" and then "testx"
[08:02] <kostas> shouldn;t be the other way around?
[08:02] <acerimmer> kostas, caps precede lowercase
[08:03] <unitypunk> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15647576/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[08:03] <unitypunk> anyone know whats up?
[08:03] <kostas> acerimmer: I think lowercase precede caps
[08:04] <acerimmer> unitypunk, "something" not supported ... check your logs and find that message
[08:04] <acerimmer> kostas, not in linux land
[08:04] <acerimmer> kostas, although you CAN modify the default sort behavior
[08:04] <somsip> kostas: In this order: http://www.asciitable.com/
[08:05] <hpq> hello
[08:05] <unitypunk> acerimmer, how do i know what to look for.. plenty of shit failing, network unreachable unexpected codes...
[08:05] <kostas> acerimmer: ok, but if you try to sort "Testx" and "test" then it returns "test" and then "Testx"
[08:07] <acerimmer> unitypunk, any error message such as your reported is in your logs ... somewhere.  ask in ##linux  ?
[08:10] <lemonsparrow> what's wrong with the syntax of this command.. doesn't return proper file fullfile="find /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'";
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[08:15] <GroundControl> hello
[08:16] <acerimmer> GroundControl, greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[08:16] <GroundControl>  hi Acer
[08:17] <GroundControl> I can't get  the new 4.3 Skype starting
[08:18] <GroundControl> I'm using it on Lubuntu 1404
[08:18] <acerimmer> GroundControl, do you have the .deb?
[08:19] <GroundControl> I tryed either the .deb downloaded from their own website and the package from repository
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[08:19] <GroundControl> but none of them is abvle to start
[08:19] <acerimmer> GroundControl, "repo"?  skype is in the repo for 14.04
[08:20] <DarkMantis> Morning :>
[08:20] <GroundControl> yes it is in the ropository
[08:20] <Beldar> GroundControl, remove the skype in ~/.config and set it up again
[08:20] <acerimmer> GroundControl, ?
[08:20] <GroundControl> I downloaded it usinf synaptic
[08:21] <Beldar> GroundControl, Ah can't start what happens exactly?
[08:22] <GroundControl> I already removed that folder but it didn't hlp
[08:22] <Beldar> GroundControl, Be sure to use nicks here, you can tab complete them
[08:22] <acerimmer> GroundControl, thanks for the repo news update!  I justed installed in my new 14.04 and it started right up ...
[08:23] <GroundControl>  Beldar, when I try to start it from my terminal it says Cancelled core dump created
[08:23] <GroundControl> Acer, nice to hear that^^
[08:24] <GroundControl> I'm not so lucky^^
[08:24] <koichirose> Hello! I’m trying to install the cherokee package on Ubuntu 14.04. It only provides saucy packages though. Is there a way to install it anyway? Here’s the url to the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~cherokee-webserver/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[08:25] <Beldar> GroundControl, I would run a purge and remove the config if there and try again as a start.
[08:25] <acerimmer> GroundControl, suggestions: update and dist-upgrade.  then try skype again.  if still failing, purge and reinstall.
[08:25] <yogeshrt> Does on 14.04 any problem with vpn ?
[08:25] <GroundControl> I did all those things
[08:25] <yogeshrt> most of the time I am unable to connect to VPN
[08:26] <acerimmer> !details | yogeshrt
[08:26] <ubottu> yogeshrt: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[08:26] <GroundControl>  Acer, Beldar, anyway thanks for the help
[08:26] <eeee> lemonsparrow: sorry i got dc, what are you trying to do ? fullfile= ?
[08:27] <acerimmer> !raring
[08:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring
[08:27] <Beldar> GroundControl, This a fresh install, and have you removed the .config skype?
[08:27] <yogeshrt> acerimmer, I am unable to connect to VPN on 14.04, sometime it works sometimes not
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[08:27] <acerimmer> yogeshrt, what country are you in?
[08:27] <lemonsparrow> eeee, fullfile="find /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'";
[08:27] <eeee> lemonsparrow: is fullfile a shell variable?
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[08:27] <yogeshrt> acerimmer, india
[08:27] <GroundControl> Beldar, yes I did
[08:27] <lemonsparrow> eeee, yes
[08:28] <eeee> lemonsparrow: you need fullfile=$(find /var/lib.....)
[08:28] <Beldar> GroundControl, Cool, communication can be sketchy here just confirming , thanks.
[08:28] <lemonsparrow> eeee, I am trying to execute it but it isn't retiring value correctly.. may be somewhere I haven't closed the string properly
[08:28] <eeee> lemonsparrow: you need to use $( command )
[08:28] <acerimmer> yogeshrt, if it connects AT ALL, you've got it set right.  Could be your local government firewall is blocking you
[08:28] <GroundControl> Beldar :)
[08:28] <lemonsparrow> eeee, before it was  fullfile=`$SSH $BUILD_MACHINE "find $JENKINS_DIR/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'"`;
[08:29] <GroundControl> yw Beldar
[08:29] <lemonsparrow> eeee, now I want to remove $SSH and $BUILD_MACHINE
[08:29] <lemonsparrow> eeee, so how would the command be like ?
[08:29] <lemonsparrow> eeee, note find $JENKINS_DIR is a shell variable
[08:30] <lemonsparrow> eeee, you there ?
[08:30] <eeee> lemonsparrow: to get the return value you can either use $( command here ), or `command here`
[08:30] <lemonsparrow> eeee, just help me correct the line
[08:30] <eeee> lemonsparrow: note that "`" is the key next to 1, not the single quote ' next to Enter
[08:31] <eeee> lemonsparrow: if you run find /var/.....  do you get any output ?
[08:31] <lemonsparrow> eeee, how would it be ?
[08:32] <lemonsparrow> eeee, yes
[08:33] <eeee> fullfile=`"find /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'"`;
[08:33] <eeee> this should get you what you want
[08:34] <eeee> or just fullfile=`find /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'`;
[08:35] <yogeshrt> acerimmer, i dont think so..as it used to work smoothly
[08:36] <acerimmer> yogeshrt, I USED to get google stuff in China.  1 month ago that stopped.  Your local govt is working hard to control the flow of info ...
[08:37] <eeee_> lemonsparrow: sorry, i got dc, you can use just fullfile=`find /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Commit-Stage/lastSuccessful -follow -name '*.ear'`;
[08:37] <yogeshrt> acerimmer, which country you r from ?
[08:37] <acerimmer> yogeshrt, I'm from Krypton but live in China.
[08:38] <yogeshrt> acerimmer, ok
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[08:40] <koichirose> Hello! I’m trying to install the cherokee package on Ubuntu 14.04. It only provides saucy packages though. Is there a way to install it anyway? Here’s the url to the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~cherokee-webserver/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[08:40] <somsip> koichirose: you need to contact the PPA maintainer
[08:41] <koichirose> ok!
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[08:46] <GroundControl> folks I have to leave, thanks, see you
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[08:57] <unitypunk> hey guys
[08:57] <unitypunk> having trouble
[08:57] <unitypunk> with my videocard
[08:58] <unitypunk> after hardware stack upgrade
[08:59] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[08:59] <XLV> nouveau driver leaving cursor trails in ubuntu 14.04 with gpu nvidia gtx 760, anyone else has noticed something like that?
[08:59] <XLV> i am loading nvidia binary blob now
[08:59] <unitypunk> screen looks like that on it aftwer
[09:00] <Beldar> XLV, note proprietary drivers are not technically supported here, you may get help however, just info.
[09:01] <XLV> i aint asking for help .. just asking if anyone else has noticed similar behaviour, Beldar
[09:01] <XLV> hmm and axicaa is some ads bot
[09:01] <unitypunk> yep
[09:01] <unitypunk> im looking for answers to this picture https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[09:01] <Beldar> XLV, Just giving you the low down, any opinions will be on a driver not loaded is all.
[09:02] <XLV> Beldar, the driver exibiting the problematic behaviour is the oss nouveau
[09:02] <unitypunk> so far i have: dieing videocard, Bad cable, ???
[09:02] <Beldar> XLV, Why yes it is, this a dual card?
[09:02] <XLV> Beldar, thanks for the low down too, but irrelevant
[09:02] <XLV> no, single card
[09:03] <XLV> a simple gtx 760
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[09:03] <ax562> Beldar: you still bitter?
[09:04] <Beldar> XLV, Quite relevant as far as channel norms, but it is your problem and need to argue, good luck.
[09:04] <XLV> Beldar, again, i am talking about a weird behavour of the oss nouveau driver, how its outside channel's norms?
[09:04] <XLV> i think you are arguing for the sake of arguing alone
[09:05] <unitypunk> well..
[09:05] <unitypunk> if you guys wanna help me for a seecond..
[09:05] <unitypunk> take apeek
[09:05] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[09:05] <XLV> unitypunk, can you repeat the problem?
[09:05] <unitypunk> yes.
[09:06] <unitypunk> every time i boot.
[09:06] <Beldar> unitypunk, Have you checked additional drivers for another driver?
[09:06] <unitypunk> when i boot to windows its fine.
[09:06] <unitypunk> i have and nothing shows, though i know somthing should, its a radeon6670
[09:06] <unitypunk> its kinda ols
[09:06] <unitypunk> old
[09:06] <XLV> unitypunk, from the screenshot, it seems its using oss drivers... load the ati binary drivers
[09:06] <unitypunk> that happaned after upgrading the hardware stack
[09:07] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/vvsBrUT5
[09:07] <unitypunk> my xorglog file.
[09:08] <unitypunk> XLV, i dont know how to enable or load the ati drivers from command line.
[09:08] <XLV> unitypunk, go into that search box and type additional drivers
[09:08] <unitypunk> ive never had to mess with them.
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[09:08] <unitypunk> i do and nothing show sup.
[09:08] <unitypunk> i said that
[09:08] <unitypunk> already..
[09:08] <unitypunk> ...
[09:09] <XLV> well, i wasnt in here when you said that
[09:09] <unitypunk> you asked me.
[09:09] <XLV> what ati gpu you got exactly?
[09:09] <unitypunk> 6670
[09:09] <unitypunk> ?
[09:09] <XLV> its modern enough so its in the support of ati binary blob
[09:09] <XLV> !ati
[09:09] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[09:09] <XLV> go in that link and do the install of ati drivers manually
[09:10] <unitypunk> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670
[09:12] <unitypunk> i wish the hardware bullshit upgrade that i got conne dinto didnt break my shit.
[09:15] <acerimmer> unitypunk, reminder:  no profanity is required or permitted.
[09:15] <acerimmer> !language
[09:15] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:15] <unitypunk> well
[09:15] <unitypunk> im a little pissed
[09:15] <acerimmer> !ops | axicaa spamming
[09:15] <ubottu> axicaa spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang
[09:16] <acerimmer> unitypunk, nevertheless ...
[09:16] <unitypunk> the "UPGRADES" broke stuff
[09:16] <unitypunk> some kinda forced bull
[09:16] <unitypunk> whyd it even $*^% with my videocard drivers
[09:16] <unitypunk> no reason
[09:16] <unitypunk> at all
[09:17] <ikonia> acerimmer: want to pm me the problem ?
[09:17] <acerimmer> ikonia, errr.  deleted already.
[09:17] <RJ_> Bluetooth not working in ubuntu 14.04
[09:18] <RJ_> can any1 help me regarding this
[09:18] <acerimmer> !bluetooth | RJ_
[09:18] <ubottu> RJ_: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:18] <RJ_> it was working in ubuntu 12
[09:21] <linux> pwd
[09:22] <acerimmer> !pwd | Linux25
[09:22] <acerimmer> !password | linux
[09:22] <ubottu> linux: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[09:22] <XLV> Beldar, well, that did it.. nvidia binary blob works without leaving cursor trails
[09:23] <XLV> lets add another bug to be fixed in nouveau
[09:23] <matty_r> Good evening
[09:23] <XLV> unitypunk, how did it go? did the ati binary drivers worked for you?
[09:24] <ikonia> .wubdiw 1]
[09:24] <ikonia> .wubdoops
[09:24] <XLV> ikonia, no kb headsmashing
[09:25] <somsip> ikonia: dubstep lyric translator?
[09:25] <unitypunk> none of it is working for me.
[09:25] <unitypunk> im trying to reinstall somthing that i never installed before
[09:25] <llorephie> о_О
[09:26] <unitypunk> because of a damn update
[09:26] <llorephie> Hmm.. What drivers (xorg or ati) will work fine with wine games such as morrowind\oblivion\age of empires?)
[09:27] <vanitha> hi
[09:27] <acerimmer> !wine | llorephie,
[09:27] <ubottu> llorephie,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[09:29] <llorephie> Thanks :)
[09:30] <unitypunk> if im not mistaken
[09:30] <unitypunk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:30] <unitypunk> doesnt say a thing about installing or using the opensource driver i need to install and use..
[09:30] <unitypunk> but thats the link i get...
[09:34] <narenthirasamy> hi
[09:35] <matty_r> Kind of a strange question but do changes made to a wifi adapter get changed in software, driver level, or would it be firmware?
[09:36] <floridsdorf> hi
[09:36] <eeee> floridsdorf: hi
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[10:07] <killer> Hey , how can i get names of devices connected to my home network ,ubuntu 12.04
[10:10] <tun> s
[10:11] <tun> quit
[10:20] <lemonsparrow> I am in a folder and there is only one node-32.jar file there… how can I fetch the value 32 into a shell variable ?
[10:20] <lemonsparrow> I am in a folder and there is only one node-32.jar file there… how can I fetch the value 32 into a shell variable ?
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[10:27] <geirha> lemonsparrow: based on what criteria?
[10:28] <XLV> unitypunk, you are already using the oss driver
[10:28] <bugtraq> lemonsparrow: vari=$(ls |cut -c 5-6)
[10:28] <XLV> unitypunk, probably it aint the latest version, but your gpu is old enough it should be well supported even in the version supplied by ubuntu
[10:29] <XLV> unitypunk, i say you try the amd binary driver, probably it will work better..
[10:29] <unitypunk> i tried to purge fglrx
[10:29] <unitypunk> and now it wont even boot
[10:29] <unitypunk> sooo.
[10:29] <unitypunk> fuck all this nonsense
[10:29] <unitypunk> deal with it later.
[10:29] <unitypunk> its completle shit
[10:29] <unitypunk> that the required updates
[10:29] <unitypunk> to keep my computer safe
[10:29] <unitypunk> have rendered it useless.
[10:29] <XLV> unitypunk, i just had a similar problem, ubuntu by default using nouveau that left cursor trails, installed nvidia's driver and it works fine
[10:29] <acerimmer> unitypunk, told you before ... NO PROFANITY!  this means YOU.
[10:30] <unitypunk> cry
[10:30] <unitypunk> plz
[10:30] <acerimmer> !language
[10:30] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[10:30] <unitypunk> or act liek an adult
[10:30] <unitypunk> and talk to me like one.
[10:30] <unitypunk> not like a 4 year old
[10:30] <unitypunk> at your pressschool
[10:30] <XLV> unitypunk, how is profanity adult talk?
[10:30] <unitypunk> in the real word
[10:30] <unitypunk> profanity is there
[10:30] <unitypunk> everywhere
[10:30] <acerimmer> !guidelines
[10:30] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[10:30] <unitypunk> in every adult life.
[10:30] <unitypunk> right into the bible with hell.
[10:31] <XLV> unitypunk, its not needed, it adds nothing, now follow those guidelines
[10:31] <unitypunk> sure thing mommmmm
[10:31] <unitypunk> im glad its so offensive.
[10:31] <unitypunk> lol
[10:31] <unitypunk> im offended by the update
[10:31] <unitypunk> that got forced into my mouth
[10:31] <unitypunk> becaus 12.04 aint supporteed.
[10:32] <unitypunk> but you dont hear me asking silly things
[10:32] <eeee> 12.04 is supported
[10:32] <acerimmer> unitypunk, please continue your rant in #ubuntu-offtopic.  If/when you regain self-control, come back.
[10:32] <unitypunk> or..
[10:32] <unitypunk> you could help me get my device booting right
[10:32] <unitypunk> instead of worrying about language.
[10:32] <unitypunk> ?
[10:33] <unitypunk> lol
[10:33] <acerimmer> unitypunk, your attitude and offensive language = abuse.  no support forthcoming
[10:33] <unitypunk> so
[10:33] <unitypunk> from nothing
[10:33] <unitypunk> i got nothing
[10:33] <unitypunk> thanks for wasting your own time.
[10:33] <unitypunk> ;D
[10:33] <XLV> ask for your monies back
[10:33] <unitypunk> i getting them.
[10:33] <unitypunk> for damn sure
[10:33] <unitypunk> oh god
[10:33] <acerimmer> feel free to use any other distro
[10:34] <unitypunk> is damn a curse word?
[10:34] <unitypunk> cuz i really didnt thinka bout that.
[10:34] <bazhang> unitypunk, please stop that
[10:34] <unitypunk> i asked my desktop to dot hat.
[10:34] <unitypunk> stop acting like that
[10:34] <unitypunk> guess what it did..
[10:35] <kostkon> unitypunk, you are not making any sense. Try to calm down and come back later
[10:38] <stangeland> I have a file with many lines....the lines are unordered...how do i sort all the lines according to only a subsection of each filename (same subsection for all files)
[10:39] <eeee> stangeland: cat filetosort | sort > filesorted
[10:40] <stangeland> eeee, yeah but that will use the entire line to sort...i only want to sort on the middle part of each line
[10:42] <IceBot3000> stangeland: Use "awk"
[10:43] <stangeland> IceBot3000, right...how would an awk script do that?
[10:43] <IceBot3000> stangeland: Read the manual and figure it out: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html
[10:54] <mgreg> I think I figured out what was breaking my boot process, it was something in android-tools-* or lxc-android-config which was making it hang early on (though recovery mode boot worked fine)
[11:00] <r4do> hi guys. i'm trying to send mail from my server to other (not mine). and on other server side is such error: bogus HELO name used: [here_is_my_hostname]
[11:00] <r4do> what can i do to fix that problem
[11:00] <r4do> also i'm using gmail services for mail receiving
[11:03] <porfa> heya, total newb.. my putty session got D/c and now when i do " dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core"
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[11:03] <porfa> it tells me this... "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process:
[11:04] <porfa> how do i "kill" this process so i can start over?
[11:04] <porfa> the terminal runing that is long gone..
[11:04] <acerimmer> !aptlock | porfa
[11:04] <ubottu> porfa: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:05] <porfa> ty
[11:05] <porfa> porfirio@Alquimista:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:05] <porfa> porfirio@Alquimista:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core
[11:05] <porfa> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process:
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[11:06] <eeee> porfa: what do you get when you type ps ux
[11:06] <eeee> dont paste everything here, just a relevant line or use pastebin
[11:07] <porfa> porfirio 12041  0.0  0.1 109784  2080 ?        S    11:51   0:00 sshd: porfirio@pts/13 ||
[11:07] <porfa> porfirio  9896  0.0  0.1 109928  2168 ?        S    11:27   0:00 sshd: porfirio@pts/12
[11:07] <eeee> ok so kill -9 9896
[11:07] <Ahmed> Hey guys, is there a way to install php 5.4.x on 14.x via apt?
[11:07] <porfa> eeee ;) thank you!
[11:07] <eeee> np :)
[11:11] <wulong710> hello. My laptop wireless disconnect network frequently after working for a few hours. I can't connect internet except reboot computer.  Wireless card AR9287 , laptop: acer-4750g. Error log is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237796&p=13090333#post13090333
[11:14] <wulong710> I tried find solutions in internet,but it seems no use to my wireless. Any one can give me suggution?
[11:17] <eeee> wulong710: no idea how to fix this, but did you try sudo service network-manager restart ? maybe you don't have to reboot when this happens
[11:20] <tracyone> anyone konw how to let the ubuntu don't automount the u disk
[11:22] <wulong710> eeee:  yes. The initial ubuntu os installed network-manger. Network-manager droped wireless frequently too. And laptop dead after wireless disconnect. I must hard restart computer, so i change network-manager to wicd.
[11:25] <abdel> hello guys, I'm using skype 4.2 for ubuntu, i can't login in to my skype on my pc but i can login via my phone and web......i have uninstalled and re-installed it and still no success
[11:26] <abdel> please help
[11:27] <Pendrokar> Hi, got a simple question. What is the file dialog window that applications open file/s with? Is it a Nautilus window, part of Unity, QML?
[11:27] <abdel> can anybody help please
[11:27] <acerimmer> abdel, sudo apt-get purge skype      and delete /home/.Skype                  then reinstall
[11:28] <Pendrokar> abdel, does the sound of Skype launching occur, when starting it?
[11:28] <abdel> okay thanks acerimmer
[11:28] <acerimmer> Pendrokar, I THINK the default ubuntu file manager is nautilus - not part of unity
[11:28] <kostkon> Pendrokar, at a lower level, part of the ui toolkit, e.g. gnome/gtk, qt, tk, etc
[11:29] <Pendrokar> It seems applications are able to apply some customization to that window.
[11:29] <Pendrokar> eg GIMP
[11:29] <kostkon> Pendrokar, true, for the gnome/gtk dialog at least
[11:30] <Pendrokar> So thats what it is. Thanks.
[11:32] <kostkon> Pendrokar, and just to let you know, gtk is an acronym for "gimp toolkit"
[11:32] <JB2030_> any body install itunes
[11:32] <acerimmer> JB2030_, not in ubuntu.  contact apple and demand support or use an alternative
[11:32] <acerimmer> !itunes
[11:32] <ubottu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[11:33] <JB2030_> not for audio
[11:33] <JB2030_> i need to sync my phone :(
[11:34] <kostkon> JB2030_, iphone you mean?
[11:34] <pa> hi!
[11:34] <JB2030_> @kostkon yup
[11:34] <pa> can i find somewhere an equivalent of asterisk-chan-capi for 14.04?
[11:34] <Pendrokar> JB2030_, even running iTunes on Windows using Wine won't help you.
[11:34] <acerimmer> JB2030_, *barely resisting the urge to smug*  consider an android phone: Nexus is plug and play for most apps
[11:34] <pa> i see it's available only on 10.04
[11:35] <JB2030_> LOL
[11:35] <Pendrokar> *iTunes for Windows
[11:35] <acerimmer> JB2030_, not to mention nexus airdroid
[11:35] <acerimmer> *android* airdroid app
[11:38] <kostkon> JB2030_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Syncing_with_Rhythmbox
[11:39] <JB2030_> Kostkon try but no luck
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[11:42] <bg__> hello
[11:42] <acerimmer> bg__, greetings
[11:42] <bg__> I'm new here
[11:42] <acerimmer> bg__, ask your ubuntu question
[11:43] <rijack> does anyone know what a correct fstab entry looks like for f2fs?
[11:43] <bg__> I wanted to evaluate gitso on the "Logitèque  Ubuntu", but no it will not connect.
[11:45] <acerimmer> !fr | bg__,
[11:45] <ubottu> bg__,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[11:45] <bg__> I have the window "Evaluation Serveur X11VNC", "Authentification", but nothing happend.
[11:46] <hellyeah> why command aptitude didnt bring default?
[11:46] <abdel> hello am trying to install skype and i got this : dpkg: error processing package skype (--install):
[11:46] <abdel>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:46] <hellyeah> didnt install*
[11:47] <acerimmer> abdel, dpgk?  DPKG?  skype is in the repos!
[11:47] <acerimmer> abdel, install from the ubuntu software center
[11:47] <hellyeah> abdel:  it is third party software
[11:47] <hellyeah> you may need to enable something on your sources.list
[11:48] <abdel> acerrimer, am trying to install 4.3
[11:48] <abdel> the latest version
[11:48] <kostkon> abdel, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-skype-linux-4-3-ubuntu-software-center
[11:49] <acerimmer> abdel, and?  I installed 4.3 from software center about 30 minutes ago.  enable your partner repo and go to it.
[11:50] <abdel> acerimmer, i have enabled carnocical partners and i got the issue i pasted earlier
[11:50] <abdel> am doing it via terminal
[11:50] <hellyeah> aptitude install akype
[11:50] <hellyeah> what version are you using?
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[11:51] <hellyeah> 14.04
[11:51] <hellyeah> ?
[11:53] <MJ> Hi
[11:53] <MJ> I had a question about network problems in lubuntu
[11:53] <MJ> who is willing to help me ? :)
[11:53] <volkan> Hi, Can someone check this error? http://pastie.org/9444135
[11:54] <bazhang> ask the question first mj
[11:54] <hellyeah> volkan:  are you Turkish?
[11:54] <MJ> i have installed a pc with lubuntu but it doesnt even scan to find a network/internet
[11:54] <ikonia> volkan: looks like a PPA has put later versions of the packages on your machine
[11:55] <MJ> now i have connected another pc here with lubuntu also but this has network
[11:55] <volkan> hellyeah, hellyeah
[11:55] <volkan> ikonia, is there a way to fix it?
[11:55] <ikonia> remove the broken dependencies and PPA
[11:57] <MJ> anyone?
[11:57] <ikonia> MJ: anyone what ?
[11:58] <MJ> i typed a question
[11:58] <MJ> but no answer
[11:58] <hellyeah> what version of ubuntu?
[11:58] <MJ> 14.04 lts
[11:58] <user123321> Could someone let me know if this script is the best way to do cleanup in my LUbuntu? I badly need to free-up space :/ any advice is appreciated. http://kanotix.de/files/remove-orphans.sh
[11:58] <hellyeah> what is your brand of your wireless device?
[11:58] <hellyeah> lspci
[11:58] <MJ> its not wireless but wired
[11:58] <hellyeah> wired
[11:58] <hellyeah> hmm
[11:59] <MJ> yeah, i was thinking maybe my onboard network card is not good
[11:59] <hellyeah> did you try another ethernet cable?
[11:59] <MJ> yes, several
[11:59] <hellyeah> it is weird lubuntu deosnt know about ethernet card
[11:59] <MJ> and now this other pc im on is working fine with internet en lubuntu
[12:00] <hellyeah> may be problem is in your network card
[12:00] <MJ> yes, so maybe just connect an network card?
[12:01] <MJ> because this one is on board
[12:05] <Karthik> Hi there, i have a problem with browsing internet on Ubuntu 14.04..  Can you please help me on this..
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[12:11] <pa> hi
[12:11] <badarink> Hi there, i have a problem with browsing internet on Ubuntu 14.04..  Can you please help me on this..
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[12:11] <pa> any owner of ISDN hfc cards here?
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[12:15] <cloudgeek> this line giving error in .sh file , sudo su - -c "R -e \\"install.packages('shiny', repos='http://cran.rstudio.com/')\\""
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[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: what is the error?
[12:18] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7951332/
[12:18] <tsimpson> cloudgeek: it's "-c" not "--c", and you're escaping the escape character not the double-quote
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[12:19] <matty_r> m
[12:19] <cloudgeek> tsimpson: thanks
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[12:22] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: all I can suggest is ask in #bash
[12:31] <user123321> How to get permission to create folders in the root directory of another partition?
[12:32] <user123321> nvm, figured it out.
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> user123321: be careful with editting permissions outside of $HOME
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> user123321: you can completely hose your OS
[12:33] <dawciobiel> What is the best alternative for UbuntuOne to sync files from Windows and Linux?
[12:34] <dawciobiel> i think when u are mounting that partition u can mount with specyfic options
[12:35] <hateball> !best
[12:35] <hateball> ...
[12:35] <dawciobiel-eu> ok, im back
[12:35] <hateball> someone really purged the factoids
[12:35] <hateball> dawciobiel-eu: Personally I prefer ownCloud
[12:35] <dawciobiel-eu> is it possible to sync files from Windows as well ?
[12:36] <dawciobiel-eu> i mean for Windows AND linux together on one account
[12:36] <hateball> dawciobiel-eu: It depends if you have a server of your own or not. And yes, you can sync from most anything
[12:36] <dawciobiel-eu> I used GoogleDrive (long time ago), but dont remember what was wrong with it
[12:36] <dawciobiel-eu> but i switched to Microsoft OneDrive  & UbuntuOne
[12:37] <hateball> There's no official client for gdrive, but there are solutions for that now
[12:37] <dawciobiel-eu> orajt, i will try that ownClound then
[12:46] <Johhan> anyone here?
[12:47] <dawciobiel-eu> yes
[12:47] <dawciobiel-eu> me
[12:47] <dawciobiel-eu> -
[12:47] <dawciobiel-eu> <- anyone
[12:47] <Johhan> lol
[12:47] <Johhan> ummm
[12:47] <dawciobiel-eu> :D
[12:47] <Johhan> I'm not very familiar with irc chats
[12:47] <Johhan> so I'm looking for a specific channel called #rubyonrails
[12:47] <Johhan> how do I connect to it :l
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Johhan: type:     /j #rubyonrails
[12:49] <Johhan> @rubyonrails :No such channel
[12:49] <havarka> hi
[12:49] <Johhan> in the website it says
[12:49] <Johhan>  The #rubyonrails channel on irc.freenode.net allows for just that.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Johhan: its a hash, not an @
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Johhan: Ive been in the channel just now
[12:51] <Johhan> ok let me try
[12:51] <Johhan> * #rubyonrails :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !identify | Johhan
[12:52] <ubottu> Johhan: You can identify to NickServ automatically when connecting to freenode. See https://www.freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify for more information. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, as a typo will give away your password. If that happens, identify and then type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.
[12:54] <zykotick9> !register | Johhan
[12:54] <ubottu> Johhan: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
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[12:58] <JSantana> thank you ActionParsnip
[12:58] <JSantana> and ubottu
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[13:12] <zetheroo> I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed and after doing updates yesterday the built-in SD card reader no longer reads my SD cards ... (15:00.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21))
[13:13] <zetheroo> lspci output still shows the SD card reader
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[13:18] <SP33D> Hello frinds can some one point me to a good solution to boot ubuntu directly from the RAM ?
[13:19] <SP33D> or any tutorial on i think with chroot or anything near to it i should be able to boot a other system directly from the one i booted befor?
[13:20] <JohnNick> SP33D, interesting question, I don't have the answer but I'm interested in understanding why you need such a thing
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: if you boot the older kernel, is it ok?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: so, copy the entire OS to RAM then boot?
[13:21] <SP33D> i whant to do high IO operations with read and write and i whant to have a faster system and the RAM Price is low so i tought it would be nice to use a box with 64gb ram
[13:21] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: good question .. I'll have to try that. I was not aware there was a kernel update
[13:21] <SP33D> and a low 120gb ssd as work station
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: might have been, not sure as I've not seen your system ;)
[13:22] <SP33D> i backup the state every hour to the ssd that enought for me
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: you do realize the kernel will put stuff in disk cache, in RAM as you use it.....
[13:22] <zetheroo> I am currently running 3.13.0-32-generic
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: unused RAM is wasted RAM
[13:22] <SP33D> Action i think its still to slow all is to slow :D
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: you are trying to second guess the kernel when it wll already do what you want...
[13:23] <SP33D> i whant to work more fast i have every where so much wait cycles
[13:23] <SP33D> i need to reduce that sometimes even firefox freezes
[13:23] <SP33D> and then after 3 sec or so it starts working again
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: you can put the data you want to work with in a RAM drive, but if the remaining RAM fills then you will get a lot of swapping, causing slowness
[13:24] <zetheroo> SP33D: 64GB of RAM!? Sounds like overkill to me :P
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: se your vm.swappiness to 1 and you will make things smoother
[13:24] <zetheroo> SP33D: what ActionParsnip is saying about swappiness +1 ;)
[13:24] <SP33D> i think its the system self that does logging and all that
[13:25] <SP33D> that probally slows down the pc i think the bottleneck are the harddrives
[13:25] <zetheroo> SP33D: Then just put the OS and apps etc on an SSD - that will speed things up noticeably ;)
[13:25] <SP33D> so i tought it should be able with less effort to simply work 100% with RAM only
[13:26] <SP33D> i have all on SSD
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: well yeah they are only 6gb / sec.
[13:26] <SP33D> but i think its more fast to have it directly in RAM and will extend life of the SSD Drive
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: if they are the new SATA
[13:26] <zetheroo> SP33D: You already have SSD's and that is still not fast enough for you!?
[13:27] <SP33D> right that the normal desktop working
[13:27] <SP33D> with many application at one time needs to get faster any how
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: you could have rc.local make a RAM drive and copy data to it from the system then symlink to that, a sudden poweroff will result in data loss
[13:27] <zetheroo> SP33D: I am running 14.04 on a Thinkpad R61 ... and it's running great with 4GB of RAM and hardware about 7 years old :D
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> SP33D: as the OS runs, the drive is used less and less as disk cache is used
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[13:37] <someone235> hey, whenever I try to use update-manager it writes "Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection.", although my Internet is well connected. How can I fix this?
[13:37] <missvaleska> run cat /etc/resolv.conf
[13:38] <missvaleska> what does it say?
[13:38] <someone235> missvaleska, cat: etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory
[13:38] <missvaleska> .........
[13:38] <missvaleska> oh wait
[13:39] <Mathisen> missed the /
[13:39] <missvaleska> /etc/resolv.conf
[13:39] <missvaleska> yeah
[13:39] <someone235> :)
[13:39] <missvaleska> I was worried for a second lol
[13:40] <someone235> missvaleska, http://pastie.org/private/nehymaegdxfrrxekkizg
[13:40] <cebor> hi, got following error while `apt-get update`: http://static.stkn.org/screen.png how can i fix this ?
[13:42] <missvaleska> right
[13:42] <missvaleska> That is your problem
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> cebor: if you are pasting text, please copy and paste text, rather than an image
[13:43] <missvaleska> sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:43] <missvaleska> at the top of the file, put in nameserver 8.8.8.8
[13:43] <missvaleska> save it, and everything should be fine.
[13:43] <missvaleska> /etc/resolv.conf contains your DNS servers.
[13:44] <missvaleska> Your issue was that your system could not resolve the IP address of the domains in the apt repository list.
[13:44] <missvaleska> Because your /etc/resolv.conf referred to the system
[13:44] <cebor> hi, got following error while `apt-get update`: https://gist.github.com/cebor/ae885905f795acea0726 how can i fix this ?
[13:44] <Mathisen> cebor 1. apt-get install launchpad-getkeys  2. sudo launchpad-getkeys  3. sudo apt-get update
[13:45] <someone235> missvaleska, Shouldn't it prevent me to use other internet connections?
[13:45] <missvaleska> No
[13:45] <missvaleska> Not always
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> cebor: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 437D05B5
[13:45] <missvaleska> Most means of connecting to the internet have a DNS cache of IP addresses
[13:45] <missvaleska> so they don't have to ask the DNS servers, which is slow.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> cebor: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[13:46] <missvaleska> But your system is still incapable of accessing anything not in the cache.
[13:46] <someone235> missvaleska, to put nameserver 8.8.8.8 instead of nameserver 127.0.0.1 ?
[13:46] <red45923> i received a 2nd hand laptop running ubuntu 12 to fix up and noticed an apparently dead key on the keyboard and wanted some tips to resolve it, so what would be the first 3 things to check when trying to narrow down the cause?
[13:46] <missvaleska> yes
[13:46] <missvaleska> however the nameserver you copy pasted actually said 127.0.1.1
[13:47] <someone235> missvaleska, it still doesn't work
[13:47] <DataGG> hey there
[13:47] <missvaleska> cat it again please
[13:47] <cebor> ty it worked
[13:47] <someone235> missvaleska, http://pastie.org/private/6zvu8cxqvkytrb1xfm2a
[13:48] <DataGG> So, I have a thread on ubuntuforums but I'm not getting much help there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237370
[13:48] <DataGG> Basically, I'm unable to install an epson scanner on my desktop, even though I installed the necessary drivers
[13:48] <DataGG> does anyone have any suggestions?
[13:48] <missvaleska> you can delete the 127.0.1.1 line
[13:48] <missvaleska> but uhm
[13:48] <missvaleska> How are you connected to the internet?
[13:49] <DataGG> I installed Iscan, Iscan-data and iscan-network, over and over again.
[13:49] <DataGG> Still, the stupid scanner doesn't work and it's seriously pissing me off!
[13:50] <someone235> missvaleska, Of course I am. I am using IRC.
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[13:50] <missvaleska> I didn't ask if you were
[13:50] <missvaleska> I asked how
[13:50] <someone235> missvaleska, Sorry, I;ve missed the "How"
[13:50] <missvaleska> okay
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[13:51] <someone235> MissValeska, WiFi
[13:51] <MissValeska> okay
[13:51] <MissValeska> restart wifi on your system
[13:51] <MissValeska> turn it off and on
[13:51] <MissValeska> then it will probably work
[13:51] <MissValeska> if not just restart your system and you'll be fine
[13:52] <ddv> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[13:52] <ddv> :P
[13:55] <DataGG> ...
[13:56] <DataGG>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER DataGG ovwwvatxqgij
[13:56] <someone235> MissValeska, didn't work
[13:57] <DataGG> ups
[13:57] <DataGG> i fuck ed up
[13:57] <trijntje> DataGG: time to change your password
[13:57] <DataGG> yep
[13:57] <acerimmer> !nick |DataGG
[13:57] <ubottu> DataGG: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.
[13:57] <Pici> DataGG: Verify keys are not your password, you should be fine.
[13:57] <acerimmer> DataGG, no profanity.  Not necessary and violates the Use Guidelines
[13:58] <DataGG> hum
[14:00] <DataGG> So, can anyone help me out with my Epson Scanner'
[14:00] <DataGG> ?
[14:02] <MissValeska> Can you be more specific?
[14:02] <MissValeska> someone235:
[14:03] <someone235> MissValeska, I rebooted, and nothing has changed
[14:03] <MissValeska> cat please
[14:03] <someone235> MissValeska, it is still "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[14:03] <MissValeska> cat please
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[14:05] <acerimmer> !nick
[14:05] <ubottu> Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.
[14:05]  * acerimmer name verification
[14:05] <pbx> running an external monitor attached to my laptop, i'd like to be able to throw windows from one to the other.  the "put" feature of compiz allegedly does this, but i can't get it to respond.  what else could i try?
[14:07] <zq> hello
[14:07] <DataGG> I'll just spam this link here: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1932063
[14:07] <DataGG> Maybe one of you can help me out
[14:08] <someone235> MissValeska, http://pastie.org/pastes/9444336/reply?key=nehymaegdxfrrxekkizg
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[14:08] <zq> why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config display the autohinter options anymore in trusty?
[14:08] <DataGG> I'll eat a show, if any of you manages to fix it
[14:08] <pbx> DataGG, try summarizing your problem. it sometimes helps you as well as those trying to help you.
[14:08] <DataGG> shoe*
[14:08] <DataGG> Alright:
[14:09] <DataGG> So I have an Epson Scanner (SX 525WD) and I'm trying to get it to work on Ubuntu 14.04 (64bits). I've installed both iscan, iscan-data and iscan-network (which are the necessary drivers to make it work). Sadly, it still doesn't work
[14:09] <fermulator> just upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04; -- after the upgrade, the system no longer auto-starts X? -- when it books, I get a blank screen. Hit CTRL+ALT+F1, I get TTY1, then hit CTRL+ALT+F7, and Xserver is loaded now. ANyone know what's going on with that?
[14:10] <user123321> What is the best way to move my OS to another partition?
[14:10] <user123321> LUbuntu
[14:10] <DataGG> Whenever I run simple-scan, it just hangs.. No error, no nothing. The weird thing is that it works on my laptop, for some reason! And I've no idea what the difference between the two is!
[14:10] <DataGG> I think it might be a bug, but to report a bug I probably need more information, right? How do I go about reporting a bug?
[14:11] <MissValeska> someone235: Please edit /etc/resolv.conf and remove everything in it and replace it with nameserver 8.8.8.8
[14:11] <annoymouse> I have a Mac. Which architecture should I download?
[14:12] <rww> annoymouse: which Mac?
[14:12] <rww> and, perhaps more usefully, how old is it?
[14:12] <annoymouse> 9,2 mid-2012 running 10.8.5
[14:12] <rww> annoymouse: amd64 / 64-bit
[14:12] <annoymouse> rww: Well which one?
[14:13] <apb1963> I'm trying to login to a Lantronix Spider KVM console... the console comes up, but I'm unable to type in it.  Any ideas?  I get the same results with either chrome or firefox
[14:13] <DataGG> Aren't there MAC AMD64 versions, specifically made for MACS?
[14:13] <DataGG> I thought there were
[14:13] <rww> annoymouse: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:13] <annoymouse> DataGG: I don't think there are as of 14.04.1
[14:13] <annoymouse> rww: So the AMD64
[14:13] <rww> DataGG: they're only needed for a certain subset of Macs
[14:13] <annoymouse> thanks!
[14:14] <someone235> MissValeska, Still doesn't work
[14:15] <MissValeska> okay
[14:16] <paulo_> hello
[14:16] <paulo_> please recommend a paint-like tool aside from Pinta
[14:16] <paulo_> it's crashing
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[14:18] <nick234> test
[14:21] <nick234> anyone the
[14:21] <pbx> noboddy's WM has keybindings to throw windows from one monitor to another then?
[14:21] <nick234> anyone there ? ... testing something
[14:21] <pbx> nick234, if you have a question, just ask it
[14:22] <pbx> nick234, for general testing, go to #test channel
[14:22] <nick234> thxk thx
[14:23] <nick234> [A:s #test
[14:24] <the[void]> good morning.   I have my mounts mounted to /media (/media/Drive1 - 20) when I browse my shares from a windows box they report the free space of the root filesystem.   is there anyways around this?  I should also mention I recently re-installed linux on this comp,  and it worked fine this way a week ago.
[14:25] <the[void]> i should mention they are samba shares
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[14:28] <waykool> on ubuntu since desktop 7.10.  having issues with Dlink/Cisco old print server, in CUPS (Red Hat), HP (recommended), both print server and HP printer always crash. Is there a "buffer" or "spooling" setting to slow down the flow of data?
[14:28] <trijntje> waykool: 7.10? Thats no longer supported
[14:28] <trijntje> !7.10
[14:28] <ubottu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.
[14:29] <waykool> lol yeah i know
[14:29] <MissValeska> waykool: wow, how are you still using that? when did you install it?
[14:29] <waykool> in live DVD ubuntu studio v14.04.4 LTS 64 bit
[14:29] <compdoc_> the[void], how do you see space available with windows? Mine never show it
[14:30] <MissValeska> waykool: wait what?
[14:30] <the[void]> compdoc  in windows file explorer it shows 97GB free of 107GB
[14:30] <waykool> my question, if you READ it, is about installing a print driver the doesn't crash.\
[14:31] <MissValeska> waykool: uhm, it would be easier in a newer version
[14:31] <MissValeska> waykool: I don't know anything about such an old version
[14:31] <MissValeska> waykool: I don't understand why you are using it
[14:31] <waykool> i know my routers gateway IP, print servers IP, this computer and other stuff behind it.
[14:32] <MissValeska> waykool: I don't know how that is related
[14:32] <fridaynext> I'm having trouble mounting my 'TV' NFS share - everything else works except for it (in OSX 10.9 client) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZWurZ4tt
[14:32] <fridaynext> i've mounted all four others, but that one won't work.  Any ideas what might be wrong?
[14:33] <waykool> since 2007, CUPS always buffered or used spooling to control printing data to print server. but.. they never put "Spooling" user settings in the CUPS gui.
[14:34] <waykool> would picking a different driver help slow down v14.04 print data?
[14:35] <trijntje> waykool: what version of ubuntu do you have a problem with?
[14:35] <waykool> THIS. v14.04
[14:35] <trijntje> so why did you say you were using 7.10?
[14:36] <rww> they didn't
[14:36] <rww> if you actually read the original message, they said they've had the issue SINCE 7.10
[14:36] <waykool> no. read ABOVE. i started in ubuntu in 2007 using Desktop v7.10
[14:36] <garbage1> hello,i am a new ubuntu user comming from windows me..ok do i need drivers for ubuntu 14.04 and where can i find them?
[14:36] <pbx> reading is hard.
[14:36] <kalib> Hello guys. I´m having trouble trying to use authentication (proxy). When using my browser (firefox) I can set my proxy: proxy.domain.com.br with port 3128. Fine, when I try to run google.com, firefox asks me for my user and password (proxy). Works fine.. BUT...
[14:36] <rww> pbx: i get that impression in here sometimes
[14:36] <pbx> garbage1, what devices do you need to work with?
[14:36] <kalib> when trying to run the update manager for softwares.. or apt-get.. my proxy doesn´t work.
[14:37] <kalib> Already tried to run:
[14:37] <garbage1> i need my wireless card
[14:37] <garbage1> and gpu
[14:37] <waykool> in other words, been a Linux user for 15 years, started with Red Hat.
[14:37] <kalib> export http_proxy=http:\\user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/
[14:37] <kalib> but it still not working from console..
[14:37] <kalib> I can´t even ping google through terminal.
[14:37] <kalib> any tip?
[14:37] <pbx> kalib, your web browser proxy isn't a system-wide proxy...
[14:37] <trijntje> lol, so a bunch of different people asking you why you were still using 7.10 in 2014 didn't clue you in that your question was not clear?
[14:38] <waykool> nm.  i'll check Red Hat's site for CUPS driver issues.
[14:38] <MissValeska> waykool: you understand you can upgrade to a newer ubuntu version, right?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kalib: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:39] <kalib> pbx, I know that. That´s why I´m trying to configure proxy to use my terminal commands..
[14:39] <garbage1> well i saw that my lap can connect to wlan but when it connects the signal isnt too rigid...ok so i came up with the idea of downloading the drivers
[14:39] <MissValeska> waykool: dude your cups issue is literally related to your ubuntu version
[14:39] <kalib> ActionParsnip, no.
[14:39] <MissValeska> waykool: I wouldn't ask if it wasn't related, it is literally the reason this is happening, your package is out dated and buggy and doesn't work well anymore.
[14:39] <tiny> I need to upgrade from "Maverick" to eventually latest LTS. Path is supposedly trough Maverick10.10->Natty11.04 ->11.10 ->... problem is I get stuck at first upgrade. Apparently repos arent there anymore.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: how can it be figuratively related to the ubuntu version?
[14:39] <tiny> Any tips on fixing this without reinstall?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> kalib: can you png your router's internal IP?
[14:40] <MissValeska> ActionParsnip: lol
[14:40] <kalib> ActionParsnip, yes.. also I can ping my proxy.. proxy.domain.com.br
[14:40] <kalib> normal.
[14:40] <trijntje> MissValeska: appearantly he was just mentioning that his problem started in 7.10, he's using 14.04
[14:40] <MissValeska> ActionParsnip: I am sure there is a way
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: why was 'literally' needed?
[14:40] <kalib> and, as I said, I cna navigate to any site through browser, where I have proxy configured.;
[14:40] <MissValeska> ActionParsnip: it's just a phrase
[14:40] <Czechton> in 3d applications i get very bad performance on my ubuntu-minimal install but on a "bodhi-linux" install which is a preconfigured ubuntu for this laptop i get good performance, anyone know what might cause this?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: its nonesense
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: 'literally' doesn't mean 'very'
[14:40] <Noiro> is there a right-click I can make to move a window to the other screen. I can't seem to drag it over using teamviewer
[14:41] <MissValeska> trijntje: .... why didn't he say that? why didn't he correct us when we asked why he was using 7.10?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> kalib: can you ping the proxy system?
[14:41] <MissValeska> ActionParsnip: it is just a phrase chill out
[14:41] <yz3pD> Czechton, bodhi uses e17, it's very lightweight
[14:41] <MissValeska> ignored
[14:41] <kalib> ActionParsnip,yes, I can ping my proxy.domain.com.br
[14:41] <PaRaD0xx> hi, my other pc running 12.04 LTS doesn't fully boot.  It gets to right before the login screen, I think, and then I get "monitor going to sleep", and then nada
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: please use literaly correctly, it makes intelligent people cringe
[14:41] <PaRaD0xx> no idea where to begin diagnosing this
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> kalib: so the issue is web browsing, or is it apt-get that won't update
[14:42] <PaRaD0xx> where should I start?
[14:42] <trijntje> MissValeska: no idea, I was confused as well
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Czechton: try Lubuntu
[14:42] <kalib> ActionParsnip,my firefox works fine when I configure my browser.. but through console, I can´t even ping any site.. I´m trying to run apt-get to update my system...
[14:42] <yz3pD> Lubuntu is best
[14:42] <kalib> but it´s also not working.
[14:42] <kalib> already tried this:
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: people using 'literally' to mean 'very' is stupid and needs stamping out
[14:42] <Czechton> yz3pD: sure but I prefer openbox and want to get experience in setting stuff up sort of from scratch
[14:43] <kalib> export http://user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/
[14:43] <kalib> also for https and for ftp
[14:43] <kalib> ops..
[14:43] <kalib> sorry
[14:43] <yz3pD> Czechton, try lubuntu, but bodhi is more leightweight!
[14:43] <kalib> export http_proxy=http://user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> kalib: try:  export http_proxy="user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/"
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> kalib: etc
[14:43] <kalib> let me see..
[14:43] <kalib> I wasn´t using "
[14:43] <kalib> but I tried with '
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> kalib: you will also need to set it in /etc/apt/apt.conf to make apt-get use the same proxy
[14:43] <yz3pD> Czechton, i use lubuntu right nnow
[14:44] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: her use of literally was correct. She didn't say she literally fell out of her chair when she saw he was running 7.10.
[14:44] <pbx> ActionParsnip, its my opinion that your in the wrong place for a usage war [sic] [sic]
[14:44] <Czechton> yz3pD: yep I like lubuntu but i wanted to try using ubuntu-minimal
[14:44] <trijntje> just that using such an old release is literally the cause of his problems, which is both true and gramatically correct as far as I know
[14:44] <MissValeska> I can't believe that dude is actually arguing about such a meaningless thing
[14:45] <xangua> MissValeska: he did...next time take a few more moment to read questions
[14:45] <xangua> move over
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: but the issue being literally linked to the ubuntu is redundant, you can say the issue is linked to the version of ubuntu and say the same thing
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> MissValeska: I thought I was ignored......
[14:45] <MissValeska> xangua: I did read it, don't shame me for my free assistance in my underware.
[14:45] <tiny> I need to upgrade from "Maverick" to eventually latest LTS. Path is supposedly trough Maverick10.10->Natty11.04 ->11.10 ->... problem is I get stuck at first upgrade. Apparently repos arent there anymore.
[14:45] <yz3pD> Czechton, attention with ubuntu-minimal, once i tried it and my graphic card often up (and with lubuntu does not)
[14:45] <MissValeska> okay tiny wait
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !eolupgrade | tiny
[14:45] <ubottu> tiny: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[14:45] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: redundancy is something you are gonna have to get used to if you want to keep using human language ;)
[14:45] <MissValeska> tiny: Why can't you upgrade directly?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> tiny: I'd go for a clean install of Trusty, you will get a cleaner OS and quicker with less downloading
[14:46] <kalib> ActionParsnip,tried export http_proxy="user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/"
[14:46] <kalib> but still not ping anything
[14:46] <kalib> :/
[14:46] <MissValeska> tiny: sed -i -e 's/olddistroname/newdistroname/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:46] <MissValeska> tiny: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:46] <tiny> ActionParsnip: yes, I was afraid of that. Not my laptop and there's tons of _bleep_ there I don't wan't to deal with.
[14:47] <tiny> MissValeska: that won't work anymore.
[14:47] <PaRaD0xx> if it helps, i am dual booting with XP
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> tiny: it will take a while, I'd be surprised if the OS worked after the upgrades
[14:47] <PaRaD0xx> even recovery mode freezes up
[14:47] <MissValeska> tiny: wait what why? I just did it like two days ago
[14:47] <xangua> MissValeska: please don't suggest that
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: have you tested your RAM using Memtest86+ from Grub?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: I assume you didn't use Wubi
[14:47] <PaRaD0xx> not yet
[14:47] <tiny> MissValeska: you upgraded from 10.10
[14:47] <tiny> ?
[14:47] <kalib> ActionParsnip, any other tip?
[14:48] <svip> When are they going to make flash work in Chromium again?
[14:48] <svip> *working
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> kalib: let me check
[14:48] <PaRaD0xx> no, full install I think, noob here
[14:48] <trijntje> !info pepper-flash
[14:48] <ubottu> Package pepper-flash does not exist in trusty
[14:48] <PaRaD0xx> try a memtest?
[14:48] <mahatjah> sti cazzi
[14:48] <trijntje> svip: it works, you just have to isntall pepper flash, not sure what the exact name is
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: yes, if the RAM is faulty, you will see issues
[14:48] <xangua> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | svip
[14:48] <ubottu> svip: pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> kalib: do you have your default gateway set to go down the vpn?
[14:49] <svip> xangua: Thank you.
[14:49] <kalib> ActionParsnip,down the vpn? didn´t get it. I mean, I know what´s a vpn.. but, didn´t get why in this case.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kalib: is your routing set so that all communications go down the VPN?
[14:50] <PaRaD0xx> ok, running it now ActionParsnip
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: did you install using Wubi?
[14:51] <kalib> my routing is fine. As I said, I can run every site using my browser. Only by command line I´m having this trouble.
[14:51] <PaRaD0xx> don't thnk so
[14:51] <PaRaD0xx> should be a full install
[14:51] <PaRaD0xx> I have a 12.04 cd
[14:51] <PaRaD0xx> system was running fine all year
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: good, wubi is awful
[14:52] <PaRaD0xx> just came back to sit down and monitor was in sleep mode
[14:52] <PaRaD0xx> now can't get to login screen
[14:52] <PaRaD0xx> get "drive for cryptswap is not ready...blah blah....
[14:52] <PaRaD0xx> then, blank screen, > monitor to sleep mode
[14:52] <tiny> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades <--- stuck after 5.  I get "could not DL repo indexes..."
[14:53] <kalib> ActionParsnip, I´m really out of ideas. :/
[14:53] <PaRaD0xx> usually I'd get login after that
[14:53] <PaRaD0xx> memtest still running
[14:53] <PaRaD0xx> 4 MB Ram
[14:54] <tiny> I really wish I could avoid clean install.
[14:54] <unitypunk> i really wish i hadnt tried to do this hardware stack upgrade.
[14:54] <unitypunk> my computer was working
[14:54] <unitypunk> just fine
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> kalib: what is the output of:   route
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: no red bits?
[14:55] <kalib> ActionParsnip,
[14:55] <kalib> default 10.20.10.1
[14:55] <PaRaD0xx> red bits?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> kalib: use a pastebin to host the text
[14:55] <kalib> ok..
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: yes, like this: http://www.kberg.ch/qemu/memtest.png
[14:56] <kalib> it´s because it´s a second machine..just a second
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: that is bad
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: if its sat like this: http://www.memtest.org/pics/amd64-big.gif   that is good
[14:56] <PaRaD0xx> nope, not yet anyways
[14:57] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, 2nd pic so far ;)
[14:57] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png after doing the hardware enablement stack..
[14:57] <unitypunk> radeon 6670.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: great
[14:57] <unitypunk> was working fine before hardware enablement stack...
[14:57] <c|oneman> so when I enable "use this connection only for resources on its network" the computer stops responding to ping on that ethernet interface
[14:58] <hey_joe_> i am having an issue with libpam-mysql
[14:58] <hey_joe_> can anyone help?
[14:58] <kalib> ActionParsnip,
[14:58] <apb1963> waykool99: figure it out?
[14:58] <kalib> http://www.pastebin.com/LDEZGgRC
[14:59] <hey_joe_> I get "pam_mysql - non-crypt()ish MD5 hash is not supported in this build." whenever attempting to use pam-mysql
[14:59] <hey_joe_> i hear it's a bug, and I just need to recompile with --with-openssl. I have done so, but same issue.
[14:59] <hey_joe_> any pointers?
[14:59] <tiny> ok ... i replaced source URL with old-releases.ubuntu.com in sources.list
[14:59] <tiny> seems it liked it ... doing upgrade atm
[15:01] <PaRaD0xx> is "pass %" a counter?  so I can tell how long this may take?
[15:01] <PaRaD0xx> at 37% now
[15:01] <Hanmac> hey if i have multible envionments installed like gnome, cinnemon and mate, where can i set my default file browser? it seems its a bit confused about that
[15:01] <PaRaD0xx> 12 mins runtime so far
[15:01] <waykool99> apb1963 , not yet. might try a couple red hat irc groups.. we'll see what happens.
[15:02] <apb1963> waykool99: try lpadmin -p <printer> -o mx=<buffer size>
[15:02] <waykool99> wow i didn't know Fedora is dead.
[15:02] <apb1963> waykool99: no guarantees
[15:02] <rww> waykool99: it isn't.
[15:03] <waykool99> one group's description says that. perhaps it just trash talk.
[15:03] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png after doing the hardware enablement stack..
[15:03] <hey_joe_> any pointers?
[15:04] <waykool99> apb1963 thank you for spooling command
[15:04] <apb1963> waykool99: that's what you wanted, yes?
[15:05] <waykool99> apb1963 i think so, yes.\
[15:05] <apb1963> reading is fun :)
[15:05] <porfa> anyone knows if i need to "open" firewall for roundcube to work with imap on gmail? if so, how? i just have terminal access to said machine.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: where did you hear that?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> porfa: did you configure iptables or ufw on the system at all?
[15:06] <benyamin> can anyone help me to fix my gmusicbrowser. it stuck with rhytymbox siimple layout. i cant change the layout
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:08] <benyamin> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:08] <benyamin> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:09] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip : It's
[15:09] <PaRaD0xx> no errors yet, 48%
[15:09] <nrdb2> hi ... I am trying to get heartbeat working... I followed the instructions here http://www.zivtech.com/blog/setting-ip-failover-heartbeat-and-pacemaker-ubuntu-lucid ...  I changed the the names of the nodes ... but when I tried to the "crm_mon -1" ... it showed that an error ... Node app1 --- UNCLEAN (offline) .... this seems to be wrong according to the text... what am I doing wrong?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: I'd say you were ok
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: did you add the gmusicbrowser repo?
[15:09] <PaRaD0xx> what to check next then ActionParsnip?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: could run an fsck on the linux partition in liveCD
[15:10] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM looking for someone that can interpret my xorg log..
[15:10] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip : I'm actually using xubuntu. it added automatically with the distro.
[15:10] <unitypunk> orhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:10] <PaRaD0xx> put in my 12.04 cd and boot?
[15:10] <unitypunk> my prety picture
[15:10] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:10] <PaRaD0xx> sorry, need noob terms ;)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: is it in a default insall? really?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: its like a chkdsk in windows....
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: wow, thats weird
[15:11] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip : Default install, yeah, i think. when i installed my xubuntu that things is on it
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: if you run:   grep -R gmusicbrowser /etc/apt/*     do you get any output?
[15:11] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Do you can help me or not?
[15:12] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, so put in my 12.04 lts cd, and reboot?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: if you drop the @ symbol, it will highlight me in my client like I am with you
[15:12] <PaRaD0xx> 57% still no errors
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: yes, then with the partition unmounted, use fsck against it to make sure the data is ok. Lots of guides online
[15:13] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Nothing, zero.. null
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: ok then run:    echo "deb http://gmusicbrowser.org/deb ./" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gmusicbrowser.list > /dev/null
[15:14] <Hanmac> how can i change the default application for some mime-types?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: then run:     wget http://gmusicbrowser.org/squentin.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[15:14] <waykool99> been using e2fsck . not sure fsck still works?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: finally:     sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:14] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: is that will install not from repo?
[15:15] <z1haze> will someone with experience please help me setup/configure a vps on my dedicated server?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: yes, that is the repo given by the gmusicbrowser install page
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: http://gmusicbrowser.org/download.html
[15:16] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: And then?
[15:16] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:16] <pbx> z1haze, that may be more than is practical to walk through in a busy IRC channel
[15:16] <hey_joe_> anyone know how to get pam-mysql woriing with md5?
[15:16] <unitypunk> my xserver is messed up after doing the Hardware enablement stack.
[15:16] <z1haze> it you could walk me through privately i guess i can pay
[15:16] <z1haze> as long as it all works
[15:16] <acerimmer> !server | z1haze
[15:16] <ubottu> z1haze: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server
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[15:17] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip : How to fix the problem? means changging layout?
[15:17] <z1haze> ok why did you just send that
[15:17] <z1haze> i have a dedicated server running ubuntu
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: the newer version (if there is one) may help
[15:17] <acerimmer> "SERVER" support
[15:17] <unitypunk> lol
[15:18] <Tzunamii> z1haze: check this out http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/
[15:18] <z1haze> so is my question not related to a server?
[15:18] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: how?
[15:18] <unitypunk> what you are trying to do.
[15:18] <unitypunk> is server action
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: I gave you the commands earlier..........
[15:18] <unitypunk> its not somthing you would do with a normal desktop.
[15:18] <acerimmer> z1haze, server support is a dedicated channel : #ubuntu-server
[15:18] <z1haze> its not a desktop, its a server
[15:18] <z1haze> oh ok
[15:18] <unitypunk> lol
[15:18] <unitypunk> that too
[15:18] <hey_joe_> can i use a 32 bit package on my 64 bit server?
[15:18] <unitypunk> yes
[15:18] <z1haze> yea no one gave a shit there either
[15:18] <z1haze> great community
[15:19] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Nothing happend on my gmusic browser, still same..
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> hey_joe_: yes but you will install all the 32bit deps it needs
[15:19] <hey_joe_> ty
[15:19] <unitypunk> z1haze, tell me about it i upgraded myhardware stack and now mine is broken. welcome to line land.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: did the PPA add ok and the GPG key import run ok?
[15:19] <acerimmer> z1haze, less profanity might actually result in help - and won't violate the use guidelines
[15:19] <unitypunk> try calling microsoft for support lately?
[15:19] <z1haze> been asking for help on this for about a week, and no one cares
[15:19] <unitypunk> ^^
[15:19] <Tzunamii> z1haze: I gave you the help you needed to get started
[15:19] <unitypunk> those feels
[15:20] <z1haze> you gave me a link to install ubuntu 14.04
[15:20] <unitypunk> boo ya
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> !download
[15:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Trusty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[15:20] <z1haze> thats nothing that I asked about
[15:20] <unitypunk> thats the suggested solution to lots of things
[15:20] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Only This wget http://gmusicbrowser.org/squentin.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[15:20] <benyamin> --2014-08-04 22:19:54--  http://gmusicbrowser.org/squentin.key.asc
[15:20] <benyamin> Resolving gmusicbrowser.org (gmusicbrowser.org)... 104.28.23.53, 104.28.22.53, 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:1735, ...
[15:20] <benyamin> Connecting to gmusicbrowser.org (gmusicbrowser.org)|104.28.23.53|:80... connected.
[15:20] <benyamin> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[15:20] <benyamin> Length: 1682 (1,6K) [application/octet-stream]
[15:20] <unopaste> benyamin you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:20] <acerimmer> z1haze, no, I gave you a link to the ubuntuserver channel
[15:20] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: I speak to Microsoft weekly
[15:20] <Tzunamii> z1haze: I gave you a link to how install a VPS solution based on LXC which is called Docker. Read up
[15:20] <pbx> z1haze, you need to change your approach then. perhaps you are not getting good responses because you're asking for a walkthrough of a complicated procedure without indicating what you've tried or what you know.
[15:20] <unitypunk> ActionParsnip, thats fun, i bet you get about as far with them as we do here..
[15:20] <unitypunk> lol
[15:21] <unitypunk> V
[15:21] <acerimmer> !behelpful | unitypunk
[15:21] <ubottu> unitypunk: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.
[15:21] <pbx> z1haze, do some reading and post to a relevant mailing list with more details about what problems you are having.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: they are pretty good. They do like duplicating effort though
[15:21] <unitypunk> acerimmer,  im sorry please help me intepret this log.
[15:21] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM
[15:21] <z1haze> ive tried following a tutorial. i created a virtual machine with vmbuilder, i intalled virsh, i installed bridge
[15:21] <z1haze> I just dont know how to setup my new ip to that vm that I created so I can ssh into it from the internet
[15:22] <acerimmer> unitypunk, sadly, for some reason the Great Firewall of China is blocking my pastebin today.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> z1haze: is there a vmbuilder channel?
[15:22] <unitypunk> tor netowrk?
[15:22] <z1haze> i followed this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[15:22] <acerimmer> !tor
[15:22] <ubottu> Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl
[15:22] <unitypunk> i dont follow how you can say pastebin is blocked.
[15:22] <pbx> z1haze, that's getting close to enough detail for a mailing list post that will get some good response
[15:22] <unitypunk> tor would let you get there
[15:22] <unitypunk> ;D
[15:22] <acerimmer> unitypunk, I'm in China = no pastebin
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> z1haze: is there an option for a bridged connection?
[15:22] <unitypunk> USE TOR
[15:22] <unitypunk> lol
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: tried http://pastie.org
[15:22] <unitypunk> in china most people are using TOR to get around the wall.
[15:23] <pbx> acerimmer, interesting.  all pastebins?  dpaste.com too?
[15:23] <unitypunk> but i dont know first hand.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: or an SSH tunnel outside, not tor
[15:23] <unitypunk> sure ActionParsnip  but to tell my you cant acces a website because of a firewall..
[15:23] <z1haze> ActionParsnip; i dont know.. i need help thats why I'm in the ubuntu irc's i really have exausted everything i know how to do and have searched the internet countles times, coming up with nothing
[15:23] <unitypunk> thats liek i cant get into a house because its locked..
[15:23] <unitypunk> rock +window=unlocked
[15:23] <benyamin> ActionParsnip: how? nothing done. please help me. i'm newbie :S
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: yes, happens in company networks with a filtering proxy, but if it alows SSH through you are in
[15:23] <unitypunk> but what evaaa
[15:24] <unitypunk> someone else can surely assist me
[15:24] <waykool99> i prefer tor tails burned to dvd-r over using a usb thumb drive.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: can you pastebin the output of the commands I gave please
[15:24] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM
[15:24] <acerimmer> z1haze, you might want to check in with ##linux
[15:24] <unitypunk> waykool99,  word, theres no reason to say you are stuck behind a firewall in this age..
[15:24] <unitypunk> its a cop out.
[15:24] <z1haze> i did last night
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: what GPU do you have please?
[15:24] <z1haze> got nowhere
[15:24] <unitypunk> 6670
[15:25] <unitypunk> i should be using the open source drivers.
[15:25] <unitypunk> i dont have FLGRX installed
[15:25] <unitypunk> but it keeps triyng to load it i tihnk
[15:25] <z1haze> ive been in every channel i can think of, ive a million times, looked online
[15:25] <z1haze> i dont know what else im supposed to do
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: have you installed the fglrx driver?
[15:25] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952731/
[15:25] <z1haze> its just not within my knowledgebase
[15:25] <unitypunk> no, it doesnt work with my legacy card.
[15:25] <waykool99> untitypunk. true true. if Skype in Linux doesn't rape your  privacy, the nsa will somehow
[15:26] <unitypunk> i repeat i should be using the OPEN source drivers.
[15:26] <unitypunk> NOT propritary.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: looks good, if you run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install gmusicbrowser
[15:26] <unitypunk> i know the fglrx ones dont work with my card.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: so you get no GUI?
[15:26] <unitypunk> no.
[15:27] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:27] <unitypunk> i get this
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: try:  radeon.nomodeset=1    as a boot option
[15:27] <PaRaD0xx> k, booted up to cd, try or install?
[15:27] <unitypunk> at grub, edit command line options ad add that to the end right?
[15:27] <benyamin> ActionParsnip: Still nothing change :'(
[15:29] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Theme still like that... how to rollback?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: all I can suggest is report the issue on the google pages
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: yes
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: on the same line as "quiet splash"
[15:29] <benyamin> ActionParsnip: Ok.... but is there any other option to fix it?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: not sure, not something I use
[15:30] <unitypunk> ActionParsnip, taking it ts time reboting.. 1gb ram, 2.1 gigglehertz. you know..
[15:31] <zermanno> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu server on a spare hard disk on a desktop and then put it into an headless server?
[15:32] <acerimmer> zermanno, possible: sure.  not the normal method but ... yeah.  ask #ubuntu-server
[15:33] <zermanno> acerimmer, ok thanks
[15:33] <unitypunk> ActionParsnip, no change whatsoever
[15:35] <PaRaD0xx> so I unmounted it, then opened disk utility, and did check filesystem, it says "file system is not clean"
[15:35] <ahmadgbg> Hi, i have a question. Is swap area needed for raid 6? I will have a raid 1 for ubuntu and raid 6 for storage?
[15:36] <PaRaD0xx> I went in to 'try ubuntu"
[15:36] <unitypunk> well
[15:36] <unitypunk> see theres your problem
[15:36] <unitypunk> there is no try
[15:36] <unitypunk> only do and do not.
[15:36] <unitypunk> lol
[15:36] <nrdb2> ahmadgbg, swap isn't esential...
[15:36] <PaRaD0xx> hehe
[15:36] <Hanmac> someone idea how to change default application for something like folder?
[15:36] <PaRaD0xx> it didn't give me the option to fix anything tho
[15:37] <unitypunk> booting to live disk gives you the oppertunity to replace broken things
[15:37] <unitypunk> with the tihngs that you knwo work
[15:37] <unitypunk> from the disc
[15:37] <unitypunk> so copy away
[15:38] <acerimmer> PaRaD0xx, "try ubuntu" is NOT recommended to "fix" anything - especially an unclean filesystem.
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[15:38] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: what name is the file system?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: liveCD is great for running fsck in
[15:39] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip, agreed.
[15:39] <PaRaD0xx> 58 GB filesystem?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: /dev/sda1  for example?
[15:39] <nrdb2> PaRaD0xx, that is quite big
[15:40] <benyamin> ActionParsnip: I get it. i just try edit the setting on ~/.config/gmusicbrowser/
[15:40] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Btw thanks for your help...
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: do you have web access in the liveCD desktop?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> benyamin: I try :)
[15:41] <PaRaD0xx> ActionParsnip, let me see
[15:41] <benyamin> @ActionParsnip: Now i must sleep. thanks for all! Shalom from Indonesia!
[15:41] <PaRaD0xx> yes sda1
[15:41] <PaRaD0xx> /dev/sda1
[15:42] <PaRaD0xx> web access yes
[15:42] <mzaza> When trying to configure Google App Engine on Ubuntu, with the following .bashrc http://pastebin.com/8UQResRj
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[15:43] <mzaza> I get the following error http://pastebin.com/pNxxxq7S
[15:44] <unitypunk> what exactly did the hardware enablement stack do to my computer?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: ok, then run:   sudo umount /dev/sda1; sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[15:44] <unitypunk> !hardwareenablementstack
[15:44] <unitypunk> !HWE
[15:44] <unitypunk> useless bot.
[15:44] <unitypunk> knows nothing.
[15:45] <yz3pD> lol
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: it responds to triggers
[15:45] <unitypunk> just not !hwe
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: so if you dont use a correct trigger, nothing happens
[15:45] <unitypunk> i know
[15:45] <unitypunk> how the eggdrops work
[15:45] <unitypunk> lol
[15:45] <PaRaD0xx> hrm, not found
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: so she's not a stupid bot, you just swung at a factoid and missed
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: you can suggest factoids
[15:46] <unitypunk> its the only words i have to describe what im going through
[15:46] <mzaza> Any one with expirence configuring app engine?
[15:46] <unitypunk> how?
[15:46] <unitypunk> someone else has to be going through this.
[15:46] <PaRaD0xx> did the sudo fsck, and got fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: eg:     /ubottu !beer is like Beer is a tasty beverage
[15:46] <PaRaD0xx> fsck: fsck.ntfs not found
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: you need to specify the partition for fsck to work on
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: then its not sda1
[15:46] <PaRaD0xx> error 2 whle executing
[15:47] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[15:47] <unitypunk> !HWE is a waste of time, do not upgrade, just install 14.04
[15:47] <unitypunk> boom.
[15:47] <unitypunk> sugested.
[15:47] <unitypunk> because that crap is useless.
[15:47] <unitypunk> aww
[15:47] <unitypunk> is crap a bad word?
[15:47] <unitypunk> sorry.
[15:48] <Pici> unitypunk: That isn't helpful.  And ease up on the enter key please.
[15:48] <unitypunk> it is helpfull
[15:48] <unitypunk> if it keeps someone from running into this problem
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: try /dev/sda2
[15:48] <unitypunk> the stack itself has been the OPPOSITE of helpful
[15:48] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[15:48] <unitypunk> its a downgrade when it doesnt work right.
[15:49] <PaRaD0xx> nothing there either, "could this be a zero length partition?"
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: if you run:   sudo parted -l    and pastebin the output, we can advise
[15:51] <barath> Hi I am a complete novice but need some help with ubuntu 14.04, Plex and PS3
[15:51] <yz3pD> !ask
[15:51] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[15:51] <PaRaD0xx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7952922/
[15:52] <unitypunk> how do i make my screen stop looking like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[15:52] <PaRaD0xx> there
[15:53] <capable> unitypunk: nvidia?
[15:53] <unitypunk> how can i undo the Hardware enablement stack upgrade
[15:53] <unitypunk> radeon
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: sudo fsck /dev/sda5
[15:53] <nrdb2> can someone help with setting up heartbeat
[15:53] <unitypunk> 6670
[15:53] <capable> unitypunk: try the proprietary drivers
[15:53] <barath> I had ubuntu 13.10 with plex installed when I would but PC my playstation 3 could see it as a media server since I have upgraded to 14.04 it has vanished the playstation cannot find a media server even when its running on computer
[15:53] <unitypunk> my card is legacy
[15:53] <unitypunk> not supported by propriatary drivers
[15:53] <sdsda>  I've added the gnome and gnome-staging PPAs on ubuntu and a clean gnome install by "apt-get install gdm" gives me 3.12 but no working network manager?
[15:53] <unitypunk> its supported by the open source drivers.
[15:53] <capable> unitypunk: by any version?
[15:53] <unitypunk> i dont know wha tyou mean.
[15:54] <capable> barath: could try reinstalling plex? I prefer minidlna
[15:54] <unitypunk> the one in ubuntu repo doesnt work for my card.
[15:54] <unitypunk> my card is old
[15:54] <kalib> ActionParsnip,sorry, I had to leave office, so I lost your answers after I sent you the link for my pastebin.
[15:54] <capable> unitypunk: probably some version of amd's drivers cover your card
[15:54] <aranea> Hi. I'm using openssh-client & -server, version 6.6p1-2ubuntu2. ssh supports the curve25519-sha256@libssh.org key exchange method, but sshd doesn't seem to know it. This has to be a ubuntu bug, upstream definitly supports that algorithm in both ssh & sshd.
[15:54] <barath> I cannot get either to work I have tried stoping it then starting also restart but nothing
[15:54] <capable> aranea: what version of ssh is meant to support that?
[15:54] <unitypunk> either way do you have any other advice other then "Use propriatary drivers"
[15:55] <capable> unitypunk: yes you could also try another version of the open source drivers
[15:55] <capable> unitypunk: and you could try different kernel combos
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[15:55] <unitypunk> i dont want that
[15:55] <capable> unitypunk: although, you should keep in mind how much time you spend on it, and weigh against that time the cost of replacing the graphics device
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: you could form an xorg.conf file, it may help
[15:55] <barath> @capable  I cannot get either to work I have tried stoping it then starting also restart but nothing
[15:55] <unitypunk> i want it to go back to the way it was 24 houors ago
[15:55] <unitypunk> before the hardware enablement stack
[15:55] <jak2000> hi all: i have a problem with eth0 how to configure
[15:55] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/9444521
[15:56] <unitypunk> so its not like i need to take 10 tabs of lsd to looka t the screen
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> jak2000: dhcp is default enabled for all interfaces
[15:56] <capable> unitypunk: hardware enablement stack?
[15:56] <unitypunk> ...
[15:56] <capable> unitypunk: you can find a log of updates in /var/log/
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> jak2000: try restarting the network service
[15:56] <jak2000> ActionParsnip, wich configuration need have on /etc/network/interfaces   ?
[15:56] <unitypunk> mmmhmm
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> jak2000: you sure the "nameserver" line works in the interfaces file?
[15:57] <unitypunk> ive been posting my xorg log trying to get help for 12 hours.
[15:57] <aranea> capable: It was introduced with 6.5
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> jak2000: looks fine, the nameserver line is weird
[15:57] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM
[15:57] <unitypunk> take a peak if you understand it
[15:57] <aranea> and I'm using 6.6.1
[15:57] <unitypunk> it appears to me im trying to use fglrx
[15:57] <unitypunk> when its not isntalled.
[15:57] <aranea> it definitly works on other distros
[15:57] <nrdb2> jak2000, I think you want 'dns-nameserver'
[15:57] <PaRaD0xx> sda5 is clean
[15:57] <barath> @capable I don't mind what I use so long as I can get something working
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> unitypunk: did radeon.nomodeset=1 help any?
[15:57] <jak2000> would be change: "nameserver" to "dns-nameserver"   ?
[15:57] <unitypunk> nno
[15:57] <unitypunk> no change at all
[15:57] <barath> its the only way we share are family photos with friends
[15:58] <aranea> Where can I find information about how the ubuntu openssh packages are built, so that I can have a look if I can find the error?
[15:58] <mzaza> Are the directories configured correctly at the 3 lines from buttom on http://pastebin.com/8UQResRj
[15:58] <Hanmac> how to change the default file browser?
[15:58] <nrdb2> jak2000, in /etc/network/interfaces option dns-nameserver sets the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[15:59] <jak2000> can i remove the line nameserver?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Hanmac: right click a folder -> open with and select a new file browser and tell the OS to remember the link
[15:59] <jak2000> only for test?
[15:59] <sdsda> Anyone using GNOME 3.12?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> jak2000: or add to the bottom of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:00] <unitypunk> hmm
[16:00] <TJ-> aranea: did you check what sshd is offering ("sshd -T | grep kexalgorithms") ?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> sdsda: it will be default in Utopic
[16:00] <aranea> Are the build sequences (including custom distro patches, configure options and the like) documented somewhere?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> sdsda: the only way to get it otherwise is to compile or use the PPA (which isnt suported here)
[16:01] <TJ-> aranea: "OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014" => "kexalgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1, ... curve25519-sha256@libssh.org"
[16:02] <kalib> ActionParsnip, did you see my paste about the "route" you asked me for?
[16:02] <kalib> http://www.pastebin.com/LDEZGgRC
[16:02] <Hanmac> ActionParsnip: okay, i did select it as default, but it seems it does not solve my problem
[16:02] <benyamin> ;-)
[16:02] <aranea> TJ-: sure, KexAlgorithms is set correctly in sshd_config. But on connecting, sshd doesn't report the availability of curve25519 to the client.
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[16:03] <Ademan> probably a dumb question, but I want to have real per-user authentication for NFS, is the only way to accomplish that via kerberos?
[16:03] <jak2000> ActionParsnip   /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is empty right?
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[16:03] <sdsda> ActionParsnip: i was just asking if anyone knows how to get the network manager working :)
[16:03] <PaRaD0xx> hmm
[16:04] <TJ-> aranea: "debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: curve25519-sha256@libssh.org, ... diffie-hellman-group1-sha1"
[16:04] <Ironwave> Hi, Is there a program for linux, to help me create a database to make my own server?
[16:04] <Ironwave> I installed LAMP allready
[16:05] <sdsda> Ironwave: mysql, mariadb, postgresql
[16:05] <PaRaD0xx> yeah, didn't complain about any errors ActionParsnip
[16:05] <VanderZar> i want to find all files within a folder which contain the characters: "ab" and "xyz" in the filename. i only know: "$ find /home/folder -name 'ab*' "
[16:05] <nrdb2> Ironwave, I like postresql ,  and sqlite  work well for local databases.
[16:05] <Ironwave> sdsda: I geuss I need to search for a lamp tutorial then
[16:05] <sdsda> Ironwave: try phpmyadmin
[16:06] <sdsda> Ironwave: easy web frontend for mysql
[16:06] <Pici> VanderZar: find /home/folder -name 'ab*' -o -name 'xyz*'
[16:06] <TJ-> aranea: And the client: "ssh -Q kex" => "diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 ... curve25519-sha256@libssh.org"
[16:06] <aranea> TJ-: well, not for me. "debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256" on the client side (with "kexalgorithms curve25519-sha256@libssh.org,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256" in the server config)
[16:06] <unitypunk> maybe if i take this dab
[16:06] <unitypunk> and put it in the cd rom tray
[16:06] <Ironwave> sdsda: Thanks for the info. My tutorial is a bit outdated, and I dont know how to go frther.
[16:06] <unitypunk> my computer will work better?
[16:07] <logicalguy> hi, how do I install php without installing apache?
[16:07] <TJ-> aranea: Then the client is using a custom "KexAlgorithms" for that host, or the user, or the entire system
[16:07] <Pici> logicalguy: For use on the cli?
[16:07] <VanderZar> Pici, i doesnt work it finds also files with files which contain only "ab" but not "xyz"
[16:08] <nrdb2> logicalguy, I think what you want is "apt-get install php-cli"
[16:08] <capable> logicalguy: disable apt recommends, perhaps
[16:08] <logicalguy> Pici, yeah, maybe, but I am using nginx web server and will use it with that
[16:08] <VanderZar> does it matter weather it is a .xyz file and i give in the search ".xyz*"
[16:08] <aranea> TJ-: Yes, it is. But that include curve25519 (the value I pasted was the one reported by the server)
[16:08] <Pici> logicalguy: You probably want the php5-fpm package then.
[16:08] <TJ-> aranea: bad syntax or spelling then?
[16:08] <capable> logicalguy: php5-fpm then perhaps
[16:09] <capable> bah, pici beated me
[16:09] <logicalguy> okay, hang on
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[16:09] <Pici> VanderZar: the wildcards need to be in the right places.  if it is file.xyz then you need to put "*.xyz"
[16:09] <aranea> TJ-: I've checked that. Btw, here's a debug log from the client: http://lpaste.net/992245060076568576
[16:10] <TJ-> aranea: show me your "KexAlgorithms" setting, I'll test it here
[16:10] <VanderZar> it could be *rh*  also?
[16:10] <TJ-> aranea: What is "ssh-ed25519" ?
[16:10] <crazyhorse> hey i'm looking for some pdf software which i can merge pdfs and make nested bookmarks
[16:10] <aranea> "curve25519-sha256@libssh.org,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256" on the server, "curve25519-sha256@libssh.org" on the client
[16:10] <crazyhorse> like acrobat pro can do.. any sugggestions
[16:10] <PaRaD0xx> ActionParsnip: what should I try next?
[16:11] <Pici> logicalguy: if it still trys bringing in apache, then use the --no-install-recommends argument.
[16:11] <Pici> eek, 'tries'
[16:11] <logicalguy> so I'm installing php5-fpm, what happens when php6 comes along?
[16:11] <capable> crazyhorse: what's a nested bookmark?
[16:11] <capable> logicalguy: you install it?
[16:11] <capable> if you want?
[16:11] <logicalguy> Pici, no, php5-fpm does not drag in apache
[16:11] <barath> I am a complete novice but I've been using ubuntu 13.10 with plex media server everything was working great until I just upgraded to 14.04 now none of my devices such as playstation cannot see the media server any more please help? I am total novice so a lot of help is needed lol
[16:12] <daftykins> barath: find channels for the software you're using and ask there
[16:13] <barath> @daftkins please could you help me find would it just be #plex or something else
[16:13] <aranea> TJ-: ssh-ed25519 is a new key format, also introduced with 6.5. It's similar to ecdsa, but uses a slightly different algorithm and, most notably, a different elliptic curve.
[16:14] <daftykins> barath: try and find out :)
[16:14] <Pici> !alis
[16:14] <ubottu> alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*
[16:14] <daftykins> heh just typing that, ^5 Pici :)
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[16:14] <crazyhorse> capable: like in a tree
[16:14] <TJ-> aranea: I do not see that listed by either server or client
[16:15] <barath> @daftykins I only got in this room by pure luck a website link I found guided me here trying to find how to go somewhere else and how could take me hours
[16:16] <capable> crazyhorse: mmm, well
[16:16] <capable> crazyhorse: pdftk is great for splitting & merging
[16:16] <crazyhorse> yeah i got tools for that
[16:16] <Pici> barath: just type /join #plex
[16:16] <capable> crazyhorse: I'm not sure about bookmarks, there are some tools like master pdf editor or something, qpdfedit, stuff like that
[16:16] <aranea> TJ-: That shouldn't matter for the curve25519 kex.
[16:16] <crazyhorse> but nothing for setting up the bookmarks
[16:16] <crazyhorse> master pdf editor says 0.0 or something so won't let me install
[16:16] <crazyhorse> $0
[16:17] <capable> well that's a separate problem
[16:17] <aranea> ed25519 and curve25519 use the same elliptic curve by Dan Bernstein, but they work independently from each other.
[16:17] <barath> @pici thanks
[16:17] <rodney_> hello
[16:17] <aranea> TJ-: Does the curve25519 kex work on your server?
[16:18] <barath> @pici i don't think their is anyone in that room lol
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[16:18] <DataGG> 1register
[16:18] <Pici> barath: there are 178 people in #plex.
[16:18] <DataGG> !register
[16:18] <ubottu> Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[16:19] <barath> @pici I think I have found someone thank you soo much
[16:19] <Pici> barath: Does your Ubuntu server have network access, or does it seem to be a problem with plex itself?
[16:19] <DataGG> Can anyone please help me out with my Epson scanner? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237370
[16:19] <Pici> barath: yay, okay :)
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[16:21] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM
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[16:22] <daftykins> unitypunk: you need to address someone by name or ask a question when posting a log
[16:22] <unitypunk> why?
[16:22] <unitypunk> daftykins, look at my xorg log and tell me whats wrong with it?
[16:22] <unitypunk> http://pastebin.com/6E0KKhaM
[16:23] <unitypunk> gonna get the same response...
[16:23] <daftykins> unitypunk: what problem are you experiencing?
[16:23] <unitypunk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[16:23] <unitypunk> after doing the hardware enablement stack.
[16:23] <daftykins> oh nice.
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[16:23] <unitypunk> SO NICE
[16:23] <PaRaD0xx> I'm guessing ActionParsnip is busy
[16:23] <unitypunk> i dont know why i needed to upgrade the hardware BS.
[16:24] <rhagu> hi, i suspended my notebook with 14.04 AS i always do and now wifi does not work anymore. i tried an older kernel, and looked at ifconfig neither eth0 nor wlan0. what can i do now?
[16:24] <unitypunk> any ideas.
[16:24] <daftykins> unitypunk: attitude and inappropriate language will only get you ignored in here, please be polite.
[16:24] <unitypunk> SORRY
[16:24] <PaRaD0xx> hmm, sda5 came back clean, so not sure what to look at next
[16:24] <acerimmer> unitypunk, and yet you keep doing it ...
[16:24] <unitypunk> well i didnt get anything with sugar ealier.
[16:25] <unitypunk> lets go back to sugar for you two.
[16:25] <daftykins> ok i'm done, i'm not helping you.
[16:25] <unitypunk> i need help removing the hardware enablement stack.
[16:25] <unitypunk> or repairing my xorg instalation
[16:25] <unitypunk> my screen looks like https://www.dropbox.com/s/962pzu94sg55lnv/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-04%2000%3A50%3A59.png
[16:25] <acerimmer> unitypunk, !guidelines apply to all - even you.
[16:25] <aranea> TJ-: In debugging mode, sshd gives the message "debug2: Compat: skipping algorithm "curve25519-sha256@libssh.org" [preauth]". Now, I've got to find out what that why that "Compat" mode is enabled.
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[16:26] <unitypunk> !guidelines
[16:26] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[16:26] <daftykins> DataGG: so, scanner issues... does it make any difference if you let your desktop boot with the scanner disconnected... then connect it *after* logging in?
[16:26] <unitypunk> lol
[16:26] <unitypunk> ugh
[16:26] <unclescratchie> installed UBUNTU 12.4  on laptop, GRUB did not load  so it will not boot from HD....help please..   also it is not recognizing the WIFI  but that is another issue
[16:26] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, dual booting?
[16:26] <unclescratchie> Acer;   nope, stand alone
[16:27] <unclescratchie> Acer
[16:27] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, new laptop?  windows 8 / efi capable?
[16:27] <rhagu> syslog recognizes it though: iwl4965
[16:28] <PaRaD0xx> guess I will try rebooting ActionParsnip
[16:28] <unclescratchie> Acer:  it is Dell inspiron 1721,   had windows but I wiped it
[16:28] <catalase> anything like nautilus for windows
[16:29] <capable> catalase: windows explorer
[16:29] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, assuming you efi type stuff, i'd suggest reinstalling grub to the /dev/sda
[16:29] <acerimmer> !grub
[16:29] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:29] <catalase> i can sftp via filezilla, but i want to explore my server with an interface like nautilus
[16:29] <unclescratchie> Acer:  tried but kicked back an error
[16:30] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, and you're going to keep me in suspense ... ? :)
[16:30] <unclescratchie> Acer: I tried  but I get an error
[16:30] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, WHAT ERROR?!
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> catalase: there are 3rd party tools to add the ability of window's junk file browser to map SFTP connections as network drives
[16:30] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, details matter - little things like error messages?  What did it tell you?
[16:31] <capable> catalase: https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[16:31] <unclescratchie> Acer:  sorry  machine is off right now>.. I can go back through the install again if you have time
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> catalase: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/map-your-sftp-server-as-local-drive-with-sftp-net-drive/
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> capable: lots of options, sadly the windows file manager is super basic (at best)
[16:32] <Pici> catalase: ##windows might have other suggestions.
[16:32] <capable> explorer and nautilus aren't that different, in features
[16:32] <PaRaD0xx> nope, rebooted, still same issue
[16:32] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, no, but in future, please not those things.  I've got to get to bed.  final thought: 12.04?  I installed 14.04.1 today and it found and fired up my wifi out of the box!
[16:33] <acerimmer> please NOTE those things
[16:33] <PaRaD0xx> right before I expect to see the ubuntu login....poof, monitor sleeps
[16:33] <catalase> thank you ActionParsnip, capable, and Pici. all very helpful reponses
[16:33] <unclescratchie> Acer: I have that too....same problem
[16:34] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, it seems the new kernel in 14.04.1 contained the fix.  and 14.04  is LTS.  May as well upgrade since you're installing anyway, right?
[16:34] <PaRaD0xx> ActionParsnip: did you see?  sda5 is clean
[16:35] <unclescratchie> Acer: trying to install 14... I have it on CD
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> PaRaD0xx: ok, reboot and see if its ok
[16:35] <PaRaD0xx> thanks so much for your time btw
[16:35] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, CD?  you mean DVD, right?
[16:35] <PaRaD0xx> nope, I just did, still not working
[16:35] <unclescratchie> Acer:  sorry
[16:35] <acerimmer> unclescratchie, no worries.  Best of luck to you.  Goodnight.
[16:35] <unclescratchie> acer:   yes  I have ISO  on disk
[16:35] <PaRaD0xx> the fsck didn't seem to find anything wrong to begin with
[16:36] <PaRaD0xx> on sda5
[16:36] <DataGG> daftykins, I've tried that. Doesn't work still
[16:36] <PaRaD0xx> what should I try next?
[16:37] <daftykins> DataGG: ok and are both laptop and desktop running 64-bit versions?
[16:37] <DataGG> yep
[16:37] <DataGG> yes daftykins
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[16:38] <daftykins> DataGG: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" followed by "dpkg -l | grep -i iscan | pastebinit"
[16:39] <daftykins> DataGG: it'll give a link to paste here
[16:39] <PaRaD0xx> I did recently run janitor with ubuntu tweak, to free up some space, it was running fine after that still
[16:39] <daftykins> DataGG: both on laptop and desktop would be handy
[16:39] <DataGG> on the desktop or laptop daftykins ?
[16:39] <DataGG> ok
[16:39] <PaRaD0xx> booted back into the cd
[16:39] <PaRaD0xx> got a terminal open
[16:40] <DataGG> daftykins, this is on the laptop http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953307/
[16:41] <TJ-> aranea: I've done some tests; I get "debug1: Server host key: ED25519 32:29:20:8c:79:02:47:c9:b7:fd:e5:72:cb:0a:13:15" when using "ssh -vvv -o HostKeyAlgorithms=ssh-ed25519 ..."
[16:42] <SubSonicgroove_> need some help with an adaptec 4 port pci nic if someone has a min to indulge me...
[16:42] <unclescratchie> having issues installing Ubuntu 14.4 , if someone has some tome  I would appreciate it greatly
[16:42] <daftykins> SubSonicgroove_: address the channel with better detail to your question, that should help.
[16:44] <PaRaD0xx> what else is there to check?  or could I just brute force it, and reinstall?
[16:44] <unclescratchie> can  someone help me with installing UBUNTU 14.....will not install  grub for some reason HELP
[16:44] <DataGG> DataGG: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" followed by "dpkg -l | grep -i iscan | pastebinit"
[16:47] <DataGG> sorry daftykins, I had my desktop turned off... Will do the commands right now
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[16:47] <Beldar> unclescratchie, This a dual boot and or a UEFI bios situation? Can you give more info?
[16:47] <daftykins> DataGG: np, i'm working away so whenever goes :>
[16:48] <DataGG2>  daftykins, this is the desktop ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953352/
[16:48] <DataGG> this was the laptop ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953307/
[16:48] <aranea> TJ-: I think I've found the problem, and it's on the client side. ssh 6.6.1 disables curve25519 when dealing with older versions in order to avoid a bug in those older versions. Now, I'm using 6.6.1 on both the server and the client, but the client fails to report its version correctly to the server - therefore the server fires up compability mode.
[16:49] <digitalblade> Hello, my Online Account from google.com started disconnectiong and I can't see my contacts and Calender in Evolution.
[16:49] <unclescratchie> Belar:  no Ubuntu only OS....I am trying to install now  I have a pop up , it has a minus sign  and a bunch of question marks
[16:49] <TJ-> aranea: I've done some tests; I get "debug1: Server host key: ED25519 32:29:20:8c:79:02:47:c9:b7:fd:e5:72:cb:0a:13:15" when using "ssh -vvv -o HostKeyAlgorithms=ssh-ed25519 ..."
[16:50] <Beldar> unclescratchie, You can tab complete nicks. Do you know what UEFI is?
[16:50] <unclescratchie> Beldar.   I have only made it to Key Bord layout
[16:50] <daftykins> DataGG: ok so those match, same for libsane - "dpkg -l | grep sane | pastebinit" on each
[16:51] <unclescratchie> Beldar: no I  dont konw what UEFI is
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_> okay so, installed this starfire adaptec 4 port nic, ubuntu seems to recognize that there's a card there but, the config output says *-network:1 UNCLAIMED
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_>                    description: Ethernet controller
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_>                    product: ANA620xx/ANA69011A
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_>                    vendor: Adaptec
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_>                    physical id: 5
[16:51] <SubSonicgroove_>                    bus info: pci@0000:03:05.0
[16:51] <unopaste> SubSonicgroove_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:51] <Beldar> unclescratchie, So what is the exact grub reference here you're addressing?
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[16:51] <DataGG2> daftykins, Desktop --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953379/
[16:51] <DataGG> daftykins, Laptop --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953377/
[16:52] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  I am installing now,  I  am at the screen where you set up the key board but I have an error
[16:52] <aranea> TJ-: Thanks for your help.
[16:52] <DataGG2> Want me to remove the packages that are not on the laptop? daftykins
[16:52] <cuddylier> Is it possible to completely uninstall Python from ubuntu?
[16:52] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Can we get the error? Is this an install started from the desktop?
[16:53] <TJ-> cuddylier: Not advisable at all; many core facilities are provided by Python code
[16:53] <SubSonicgroove_> sorry, here's the output i'm getting for this Adaptec card, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953404/
[16:53] <PaRaD0xx> suppose I should re-ask, as the person helping me apparently isn't here anymore (ActionParsnip)
[16:53] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  I have a pop-up with some question marks and an OK button to click
[16:53] <cuddylier> TJ- The only reason I'm asking is because I want to block users from running anything python and I never see any python processes running unless they stop running a few seconds after starting?
[16:54] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: Can you show us "sudo lspci -knnvvv -s 03:05.0 | pastebinit" ?
[16:54] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  cant close out the pop-up.....
[16:54] <PaRaD0xx> running 12.04 LTS, when I boot, my monitor goes to sleep right before the login screen, any ideas?
[16:54] <user123321> How to move Ubuntu to a different hard disk?
[16:54] <carmine> ciao a tutti
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[16:54] <daftykins> DataGG2: try removing xsane and xsane-common to start, you can see a mismatch there now so it wouldn't hurt to try to pair them up yes
[16:54] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Were you her yesterday and we talked and this is in a VM, and can you address the install from the desktop question I asked.
[16:54] <SubSonicgroove_> yep, gimme a sec...
[16:54] <Beldar> here*
[16:54] <PaRaD0xx> memtest went fine up to about 60%, checked sda5 filesystem, clean via live cd
[16:54] <TJ-> cuddylier: Change the permissions on the python executables so only root, or some particular group, can execute it
[16:55] <DataGG2> I installed xsane after tho. Before installing it, it didn't work. But yes, I'll remove everything that's not on the laptop daftykins
[16:55] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  no,  was not here yesterday
[16:55] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Should I not ask multiple questions in addressing you?
[16:56] <Guest16943> ciao
[16:56] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  I just trying to get grub to work....
[16:56] <Guest16943> aaaa
[16:56] <unclescratchie> Beldar: will not boot from HD after install
[16:56] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Grub has nothing to do with where you are if I understand you.
[16:58] <Beldar> unclescratchie, So you have an install? I'm not real familiar with this keyboard point you are addressing, can you be more exact in this?
[16:58] <unclescratchie> Beldar:    sorry  I am giving up on 14.04,  may be a bad ISO.....going to indstall 12.4  but still have the same problem,  ubuntu will not boot after install
[16:58] <TJ-> unclescratchie: Beldar corruption - check ISO, check RAM with memtest
[16:59] <SubSonicgroove_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953432/
[16:59] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Will not boot may be a simple problem like missing graphic drivers, so we might try to at least confirm a little more if you have an install.
[16:59] <Beldar> unclescratchie, TJ- makes an excellent point.
[17:00] <unclescratchie> Beldar: going back to 12.4 I now that ISO is good,   it is going on a Dell INSPIRON 1721..  the problem is after install  it will not boot from hard drive
[17:01] <Beldar> unclescratchie, What is the graphic hardware, nvidia?
[17:02] <DataGG2> daftykins, New desktop ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953447/
[17:02] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  not sure,  I dont think it is,  been a couple days since I messed with it, and of course I wrote nothing down
[17:02] <DataGG2> The only one that doesn't show up in the laptop is the 4th, which I cannot find using synaptic daftykins
[17:03] <m1chael> I want to change the locale of my server to "en_US.utf8" .. I am looking at the file "/etc/default/locale" and I see:   LANG="en_US"    LANGUAGE="en_US:"    am I correct in thinking that I can change this to: "en_US.utf8" and "en_US.utf8:" respectively? and then issue a: sudo locale-gen
[17:03] <daftykins> DataGG2: yeah it's stated it's removed but configured i believe, a purge of that package name should remove the stored config but it *might* not affect it
[17:03] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Ah Radeon, cool well carry on and ask as needed for any help.
[17:04] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  thanks....iinstalling now,  as soon as I get the error  I will let you  know...ths
[17:04] <PaRaD0xx> o, am dual booting with XP also, full install tho, not WUBI
[17:04] <RondO> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.4.1 today and I have a big problem
[17:04] <PaRaD0xx> no idea what to try next to fix this
[17:05] <SubSonicgroove_> TJ, not sure if you saw the link -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953432/
[17:05] <^Lestat1> is this a good channel for general helps?
[17:05] <RondO> After startup, it just tells me that X isn't working
[17:05] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: looking now, thanks
[17:05] <DataGG2> daftykins, New desktop ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953490/
[17:05] <SubSonicgroove_> appreciate the help my friend... tia
[17:05] <DataGG2> daftykins, after purging, everything pairs
[17:05] <RondO> And trying to use a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1) instantly signs me out every time I sign in
[17:05] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Second post here has the manual for download if you do not have this. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130703113254AAqACtj
[17:06] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_:  which kernel version is it ("uname -r") ?
[17:06] <SubSonicgroove_> 3.13.0-24-generic
[17:07] <daftykins> DataGG2: good stuff, i'd reboot then with the device disconnected for completions sake
[17:07] <TJ-> SubaruSVX: "sudo modprobe starfire"
[17:07] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: : "sudo modprobe starfire"
[17:07] <DataGG2> daftykins, alright, will do. brb
[17:07] <^Lestat1> I know nothing about make and make install etc. I want to download and install PDFlib in my local dev server.
[17:07] <Beldar> ^Lestat1, Ubuntu related yes.
[17:08] <^Lestat1> help?
[17:08] <SubSonicgroove_> TJ, nothing came back after that command
[17:08] <DataGG2> Ok i'm back
[17:08] <^Lestat1> oh wait I think I made it happen
[17:09] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: That's good :) now do "sudo lspci -knn -s 03:05.0" and you should see the starfire kernel driver listed
[17:09] <^Lestat1> I just dont know what 'make' and 'make install' does.
[17:09] <kitoke> hi... I have a problem with connecting my seagate external usb hard disk on ubuntu 14.04... please help
[17:09] <rollypolio> unable to enable visibility on the bluetooth app in mint 16. looks like it's called /usr/sbin/bluetoothd in htop
[17:10] <unclescratchie> Beldar: still here?   I have my error-----Executing 'grub-install/dev/sda' failed
[17:10] <^Lestat1> I knew I should have stuck with wamp
[17:10] <Beldar> RondO, More details are needed for help from the channel, IE did it ever work and any changes as part of the no X, desktop and graphic hardware.
[17:10] <PaRaD0xx> checking xp to see if it boots ok
[17:10] <RondO> Beldar: It never worked, I literally just installed it. I have an nvidia card in this
[17:10] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Yes can you pastebin the info from running parted -l?
[17:10] <SubSonicgroove_> TJ, says command not found...
[17:11] <Bombo> i want to change the resolution of my monitor (running nvidia) but nothing happens when i change it in nvidia panel or unity settings, in Xorg.log.0 i see '(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1 Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display device CRT-1 (Using EDID frequencies has been enabled on all display devices.)'
[17:11] <RondO> Beldar: It worked from a usb stick, that is
[17:11] <kitoke> hi... I have a problem with connecting my seagate external usb hard disk on ubuntu 14.04... please help
[17:11] <Beldar> !nomodeset | RondO try this to see if you get an X
[17:11] <ubottu> RondO try this to see if you get an X: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[17:11] <Bombo> how do i set resolution?
[17:11] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: did you typo?
[17:11] <Beldar> kitoke, This a NTFS partitioned HD?
[17:12] <kitoke> yes
[17:12] <RondO> Beldar: ok, will try
[17:12] <pbx> Bombo, System Settings > Displays
[17:12] <SubSonicgroove_> I checked it, I typed what you typed..
[17:12] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  no,  permission denied, can not communicate with kernel device mapper
[17:12] <SubSonicgroove_> exactly, that is..
[17:12] <pbx> Bombo, sorry, looks like you wnt there already. dunno about your specific woes.
[17:13] <Beldar> kitoke, Note I use your nick. When was the last chkdsk run in a windows environment, and how are you trying to mount it or get it on ubuntu?
[17:13] <evilbug> i just realized that the 3 year support for lts also applies to point releases. it's a beautiful day!
[17:13] <Beldar> unclescratchie, sorry sudo parted -l
[17:13] <SubSonicgroove_> sudo lspci -knn -s 03:05.0
[17:14] <kitoke> i havent run into checkdisk at all..
[17:14] <kitoke> Beldar: ^
[17:14] <Beldar> !pastebin | unclescratchie,
[17:14] <ubottu> unclescratchie,: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[17:14] <Beldar> kitoke, How about the other questions?
[17:15] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: I'm not sure how/why you'd get command not found
[17:15] <unclescratchie> Beldar:  no I cant paste bin...but here may be the problem ( be advised I never had this prob. before so)   here is the error...cant have a partition outside he disk
[17:15] <SubSonicgroove_> me either... everything else seemed to work...
[17:15] <Bombo> pbx: it says 'unknown display' i'm using: 1024x768 (4:3), want 1360x786 (16:9) when i select it, nothing happens
[17:16] <Beldar> !pastebinit | unclescratchie
[17:16] <ubottu> unclescratchie: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:16] <SubSonicgroove_> TJ, it worked...!
[17:16] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Are you installing from the desktop?
[17:16] <SubSonicgroove_> at least the command did anyway...
[17:17] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: Good ... so for some reason that "starfire" module isn't being auto-loaded at boot time
[17:17] <kitoke> Beldar: I just connected it to my system.. I cant find it under nautilus or disks program...
[17:17] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: Let's find out why, do: "grep -i '9004.*6915' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules* | pastebinit"
[17:17] <Bombo> pbx: it's a old 16:9 monitor with vga input, and the nvidia got dvi, so i got an adaptor for that, probably thats why it isn't recognised, but isn't there a way to force the resolution?
[17:17] <kitoke> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953569/
[17:17] <Bombo> anyone?
[17:18] <Beldar> kitoke, Basically to help we need info like the actual process you are using to get the external to show in ubuntu.
[17:18] <PaRaD0xx> xp boots just fine, hrm, anybody have an idea?
[17:18] <pbx> Bombo, dunno, sorry
[17:18] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: "it worked" - I thought you meant the kernel driver was shown as loaded. Did you mean just that the "lspci" command worked?
[17:18] <SubSonicgroove_> okay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953591/
[17:18] <SwedeMike> a /win 34
[17:18] <unclescratchie> Baldar:  I went to Disk U tility,   it is showing 6 hd's
[17:19] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: That output is good, that should mean the starfire driver is auto-loaded at boot-time.
[17:19] <Beldar> kitoke, USB3? Have you clicked on the HD in the left panel in home?
[17:19] <SubSonicgroove_> okay, i'll give it a try and see what the output is now... bbiab...
[17:19] <Bombo> pbx: ok
[17:19] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Okay, are there 6 HD?
[17:19] <SubSonicgroove_> thanks for the help my friend...
[17:20] <kitoke> Beldar: It hasn't created any sdX entries... so actually I have no idea how to mount it... yes usb3 and usb2 supported... doesn't show up as a device
[17:20] <unclescratchie> Baldar:  no,  only one,
[17:21] <Beldar> kitoke, So this happens when you just plug the usb HD in?
[17:21] <Beldar> unclescratchie, The command I gave you is a key here than, why can you not pastebin it?
[17:21] <sudheer> can someone please tell me how to connect windows phone in Ubuntu 10.04
[17:21] <DataGG2> daftykins, ok im back
[17:22] <DataGG2> daftykins, Will try to scan now, let's cross our fingers lol
[17:22] <pbx> sudheer, say what you tried, what you expected, and what happened
[17:22] <kitoke> Beldar: yes... It never detected it anytime... I dont have windows on my PC... It's my friend's HD
[17:22] <sudheer> well, I m trying to connect my windows phone over USB, but it had not connected
[17:22] <TJ-> kitoke: Try running "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" just before you plug the device in, if the kernel detects the device, you'll see some useful messages
[17:23] <DataGG2> daftykins, Still doesn't work... I seriously hate this
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[17:23] <Beldar> kitoke, My guess is that the HD needs to be checked by a windows system, not an uncommon issue. There is a linux version of the check personally I wont recommend it or use it is all.
[17:24] <daftykins> DataGG2: it'd be interesting to see what booting a 14.04.1 LiveCD/USB then plugging it in would do.
[17:24] <sudheer> ok, shall I run tail -f /var/log/kern.log ...?
[17:24] <Beldar> kitoke, If a NTFS as you have confirmed.
[17:24] <daftykins> DataGG2: you'd need to debug these programs from this point i guess, but i have no experience with such software
[17:25] <kitoke> Beldar: It isn't detected on Windows 7 too...
[17:25] <Beldar> kitoke, Not sure than, might worth addressing that in ##windows
[17:25] <Beldar> be*
[17:26] <kitoke> Beldar: It did have NTFS before this happened... I dont need the data in it... I just want it to work
[17:27] <PaRaD0xx> 12.04 lts, 4 gig ram, monitor sleeps right before login screen, ran memtest to 60% without issue, ran fsck on filesystem (I think) came back clean, anybody know what I can try to fix this?
[17:27] <Beldar> kitoke, Sure, install gparted and see if it shows there, maybe needs a formatting, it wont mount without partitions
[17:27] <SubSonicgroove_> @JT, still the same "unclaimed" not sure what's going on with this card
[17:27] <PaRaD0xx> ActionParsnip was helping me, but I think he/she left
[17:28] <Ademan> Should I mount a data drive that 99.99% of the time should be present, to /mnt or /media ? Someone says /media is managed by udev, so if I want static mounting I should probably use /mnt, right?
[17:28] <sudheer> This what I am getting while connecting my windows mobile
[17:28] <sudheer> Unable to mount Nokia Lumia 720 (RM 885)
[17:28] <sudheer> Unable to open MTP device '[usb:002,003]'
[17:28] <sudheer> is there any chance we can fix this issue..?
[17:29] <Beldar> Ademan, You can have it auto mount with fstab.
[17:29] <Ademan> Beldar: right, that is what I'm doing, but I want to decide which directory to mount to
[17:29] <Beldar> Ademan, This an internal or an external HD?
[17:29] <kitoke> Beldar:
[17:30] <Beldar> kitoke, yes.
[17:30] <kitoke> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953684/
[17:30] <Ademan> Beldar: external, but I almost never remove it, basically only by accident would it ever not be present
[17:31] <Beldar> kitoke, I have never used logs, how about the gparted idea, or a pastebin of sudo parted -l
[17:31] <PaRaD0xx> would reinstalling be a good thing to try?  or is there something else to try first?
[17:32] <Beldar> Ademan, Not sure why you are concerned with this mount area, I would just plug when needed or use a fstab entry to automount.
[17:32] <Ademan> hrm is ntfs-3g still the "correct" way to mount ntfs partitions rw?
[17:33] <rww> Ademan: just use /media/whatever
[17:33] <rww> Ademan: yes
[17:33] <kitoke> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953705/
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[17:34] <Beldar> kitoke, Seems to some issue with the HD, no mount anywhere, are you sure it is not fried?
[17:35] <hey_joe> can anyone give me a hand with pam-mysql?  at first I tried on ubuntu 14, 64bit, but pam-mysql gives the error "md-5 not supported with this build"
[17:35] <Beldar> kitoke, Or has a non compliant partitioning......etc
[17:35] <hey_joe> so i even build from source --with-openssl
[17:35] <hey_joe> to worky.  so then I heard it was jus the 64bit version of the build that md5 was broke..
[17:35] <hey_joe> tried with the 32 bit version... no worky.
[17:35] <jhutchins> Ademan: You can also just specify somethiing meaningful anywhere in the filesystem.  I use /server/share as a path for net mounts.
[17:35] <unclescratchie> Beldar: there is 5 partitions on the drive, I can not unmount or delete them
[17:35] <jhutchins> Ademan: /mnt is usually only for temmporary mounts.
[17:36] <hey_joe> tried compiling from source with apt-get source libpam-mysql... and i get "configure: error: Cannot find pam headers. Please check if your system is ready for pam module development."
[17:36] <hey_joe> can anyone help?
[17:36] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: OK, this could be a bug in udev... you're the 3rd person I've seen with this issue recently
[17:36] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Ah can we see any proof of that?
[17:36] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: You can ensure the module is loaded manually with "echo "starfire" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules"
[17:36] <pbx> hey_joe, sometimes there are -dev variants of packages that you need for hand-building.   i don't know that particular lib though
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[17:37] <unclescratchie> yes in disk utility
[17:37] <hey_joe> :(
[17:37] <Beldar> unclescratchie, 5 primary partitions maybe?
[17:37] <pbx> hey_joe, but do an apt-cache search to see if anything comes up
[17:37] <unclescratchie> Beldar: also the install is trying to install to partition #5
[17:37] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Why can we not get a pastebin of commands?
[17:38] <kitoke> Beldar: I'm not sure if its fried... My friend told me she had problems with partitioning before she ran into this problem.... It always refused to make any changes to its partition table... I'm sure it is an mbr type partition table
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[17:38] <unclescratchie> Beladar:  no sorry, it is on  another laptop, and wifi is not working
[17:38] <cprofitt> hello all
[17:38] <SubSonicgroove_> ecoe'd back "Starfire"
[17:39] <Beldar> kitoke, Not knowing your friends skill set hard to say from here, but that sounds fried a table should be easy.
[17:39] <DataGG2> daftykins, I'll see what happens with a live CD
[17:39] <DataGG2> can I install the drivers in a live CD? daftykins
[17:39] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: Good, it'll also have appended it to the file
[17:39] <TJ-> SubSonicgroove_: check that with "cat /etc/modules"
[17:40] <Beldar> unclescratchie, Well here pastebin is about the most important too we need to use, without I cannot help.
[17:40] <daftykins> DataGG2: sure
[17:40] <jhutchins> kitoke: Have you tried fsck or smartmontools on it?
[17:41] <SubSonicgroove_> says lp and starfire so, it should be good right?
[17:41] <Doxin> ld can find libfftw3f on a 32bit install, but on an (otherwise identical) 64bit install it can't, even though the package claims to include it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libfftw3-dev/filelist
[17:41] <Beldar> jhutchins, would have to be a command does not show except in logs.
[17:41] <Beldar> and is a ntfs
[17:41] <kitoke> jhutchins: nope... can you help me with that? please..
[17:41] <Beldar> or was anyway jhsut
[17:41] <unclescratchie> Beladar: I just need to know how to format the entire drive and get rid of all partitions
[17:41] <pl1x> hi
[17:42] <jhutchins> Beldar: fsck.ntfs is a link to ntfsfix or ntfschk.
[17:42] <pl1x> is my dell inspiron n5050 compatible with ubuntu 14.04?
[17:42] <Beldar> jhutchins, Not a tool I would recommend, but your welcome.
[17:42] <TJ-> hey_joe: "sudo apt-get build-dep libpam-mysql" then "fakeroot debian/rules binary" to build the packages
[17:42] <jhutchins> kitoke: You could install smartmontools - what does Beldar mean about the logs, can you not access the CLI?
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[17:44] <Beldar> kitoke, Give jhutchins your log posts, not much more I can do.
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[17:44] <TJ-> unclescratchie: To lose the partitions simply do "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1" for MBR-based disks, and for GPT use "sudo sgdisk --clear /dev/sdX"
[17:44] <kitoke> jhutchins: i will install smartmontools now... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7953684/ I can access the CLI
[17:44] <jhutchins> kitoke: Then smartctl --all /dev/sdX | less
[17:45] <chmrr> Taking updates for USN-2306-1 on Lucid (to libc6 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14) seems to have broken things that use get servbyname, causing them to segfault.  Known?
[17:45] <TJ-> chmrr: Have you been able to capture a stack-trace?
[17:46] <chmrr> TJ-: https://chmrr.net/nopaste/2014-08-04ct6Ir41E
[17:46] <chmrr> .
[17:46] <kitoke> jhutchins:  It hasn't created any sdX entries... so actually I have no idea how to mount it... doesn't show up as a device ...
[17:46] <Beldar> pl1x, Boot the live and see.
[17:46] <TJ-> chmrr: Can you install the full -dbgsym packages for libc6 ?
[17:47] <chmrr> With difficulty, as apt-get segfaults
[17:47] <chmrr> Give me a mintue
[17:47] <hey_joe> TJ-: applying patch 01_openssl.patch to ./ ... failed.
[17:47] <hey_joe> :/
[17:47] <TJ-> chmrr: If you have a core dump you can do it on a different PC
[17:47] <TJ-> hey_joe: Where's that patch from?
[17:47] <hey_joe> i dunno
[17:47] <hey_joe> i just ran what you told me too :)
[17:48] <TJ-> hey_joe: Your own - not one of the Quilt debian/patches/ I mean?
[17:48] <hey_joe> i found a how to about modifying a few debian/* files and Makefile.in
[17:48] <hey_joe> should i revert those changes and re-run?
[17:48] <Beldar> pl1x, 2 seconds to find with you r computer and ubuntu on the web. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201105-8079/
[17:49] <TJ-> hey_joe: If the standard package build fails it is likely because you've edited the source, because the same source built on the build servers
[17:49] <chmrr> TJ-: libc6-dbg is already installed.  Did you mean that, not libc6-dbgsym ?
[17:49] <hey_joe> TJ-: it worked
[17:50] <hey_joe> so now i just install this package it made?
[17:50] <hey_joe> and md5 will work with pam-mysql?
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[17:50] <TJ-> chmrr: Grrr, sometimes its hard to know where the debug symbols are. Some packages still ship their own -dbg in the main archive, whilst others are properly puilt with the "pkg-create-dbgsym" divert of dh_strip, and end up in http://ddebs.ubuntu/com/
[17:51] <hey_joe> meh, still broke. same error: pam_mysql - non-crypt()ish MD5 hash is not supported in this build.
[17:51] <TJ-> hey_joe: I have no idea if it will work - I assume you've made some changes to the source to try to have that happen
[17:51] <user123321> Please help, how to increase the parition size of sdb1 using sdb3? http://s7.postimg.org/4h8yzrriz/gparted.png
[17:51] <TJ-> hey_joe: you may need to alter the configure options in the Makefile "debian/rules" to enable md5 ?
[17:51] <hey_joe> gotcha
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[17:52] <TJ-> hey_joe: I think there is a reason MD5 was disabled though - probably security
[17:52] <hey_joe> but i need it!
[17:52] <Beldar> user123321, YOU need a resize of the extended and swap first
[17:52] <lukas1> test
[17:53] <hey_joe> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ywdL2i1R
[17:53] <hey_joe> thats my rules file... would i just add something like --with-md5 to the configure line?
[17:53] <user123321> Beldar, Oh ok, I'll try.
[17:53] <Beldar> user123321, And not much space than, how much do you want sdb1 to be extended?
[17:54] <user123321> Beldar, Entire space from sdb3
[17:54] <user123321> What's the first thing i need to do?
[17:55] <Beldar> <user123321> Beldar, Entire space from sdb3 That makes no sense
[17:55] <TJ-> hey_joe: Can't you use "pam-mysql crypt=mysql" ?
[17:55] <Beldar> user123321, Ah i'm sorry hold on
[17:55] <user123321> Beldar, :D
[17:56] <chmrr> The best I can do is https://chmrr.net/nopaste/2014-08-04KMLW_hGH
[17:56] <chmrr> TJ-: ^
[17:56] <user123321> Beldar, I don't need sdb3.
[17:56] <Beldar> user123321, YOU can delete sdb3 and the sdb5 and sdb2 and than extend sdb1 and make a new swap. Note do the delete one by one in the order I address them
[17:57] <user123321> Beldar, Cool, ok.
[17:58] <TJ-> hey_joe: 'md-5 not supported with this build' is not coming from pam-mysql, my guess is it comes from the underlying crypto library
[17:59] <Beldar> user123321, hopefully the partitions being out of order is not and issue here, if so do sdb5 tha sdb3 than sdb2
[17:59] <TJ-> chmrr: So the best clue we can see is "cfree+0x73)"
[18:00] <pbx> i'd like to be able to throw windows from one monitor to another (via key bindings). what do people use for that?   compiz "put" extension doesn't visibly work alas
[18:00] <user123321> Beldar, Whil trying to resize sdb1, I get a warning, "moving your partition might fail your operating system to boot", do I need to be worried?
[18:01] <robgault_> I see  14.04.1 is available but on my 12.04 systems do-release-upgrade states "no new release found" but docs say that it should be presented once the first point relase is available, anyone know why it's not being offered?
[18:01] <TJ-> chmrr: any changes to "/etc/services" ?
[18:01] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah.  How does one turn off glibc's helpful "backtrace:" so that gdb can instead catch it.
[18:01] <chmrr> TJ-: Nope.
[18:01] <TJ-> robgault_: Waiting for bug-fixes to percolate through the system
[18:02] <user123321> Beldar, Oh well, I could fix the grub if it gets issues. I think it's alright.
[18:02] <robgault_> TJ-: so 14.04.01 isn't recomended/stable enough to upgrade to?
[18:02] <chmrr> TJ-: The system uses nscd to talk to openldap over ldaps:// for auth, which has caused problems in the past, but AFAIK nothing services-related runs over that
[18:04] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah, nsswitch.conf confirms "services: db files"
[18:04] <TJ-> chmrr: Looks like the issue is in nscd_getserv_r()
[18:04] <user123321> Beldar, Lol, it seems gparted has added 1 MB of unallocated space in the beginning.
[18:04] <user123321> Now it's moving the sdb1 xD
[18:05] <chmrr> The one other backtrace I got (different host, which I backed down libc on already) didn't have nscd in the backtrace
[18:05] <chmrr> Let me dig that bt out, one sec
[18:05] <Beldar> user123321, That is common no an is issue.
[18:05] <chmrr> TJ-: https://chmrr.net/nopaste/2014-08-04rfb5ehgD was from mysql
[18:05] <Bombo> how do i disable compiz?
[18:06] <user123321> Beldar, Oh ok, thanks :D
[18:06] <chmrr> Well, perl talking to mysql.  More or less the identical backtrace arose fro mthe mysql command-line
[18:07] <Beldar> Bombo, unity is a plugin in compiz so no compiz no unity
[18:07] <user123321> Oh it's not 1 MB, 7 MB unallocated :)
[18:08] <user123321> and 1 MB in the end
[18:08] <user123321> let me reboot
[18:08] <Beldar> user123321, Does not show in the image.
[18:08] <Goku> h
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[18:09] <Bombo> Beldar: hmkay
[18:09] <Beldar> user123321, Nor would I worry tiny allotments and probably correct for what you have there.
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[18:11] <TJ-> chmrr: Looks like this needs a bug report, it is a severe regression on the face of it
[18:12] <user123321> Beldar, It works, thanks! :D
[18:12] <chmrr> TJ-: Where's the right place to report it?
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[18:13] <TJ-> chmrr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libc6
[18:13] <chmrr> 404's?
[18:13] <chmrr> Ah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc
[18:14] <user123321> Beldar, Oh lol, the system says the swap is not available, I'll google for re-mapping it back :D
[18:14] <TJ-> chmrr: sorry, it's eglibc isn't it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc
[18:14] <TJ-> chmrr: which package version is it?
[18:14] <chmrr> libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14
[18:14] <chmrr> libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.13 was fine
[18:15] <Beldar> user123321, Yeah when you get partitions out of order this happens, you are the right track though I believe.
[18:15] <Beldar> on*
[18:16] <TJ-> chmrr: have you looked at the CVE patches in the source?
[18:16] <Doxin> how would I go about building a 32bit binary on a 64bit install? trying to install :i386 dev packages tries to delete everything ever.
[18:16] <chmrr> No, I'd not gotten that far.  Do you have a link to them on hand?
[18:17] <Beldar> user123321, The swap is inside sdb2 still nothing mounted and sdb3 is?
[18:17] <TJ-> chmrr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libc6
[18:17] <user123321> Beldar, I figured it out. I used "sudo swapon /dev/sda5"
[18:18] <user123321> sda5 had swap
[18:18] <ala-lala> [']]
[18:18] <Beldar> user123321, heh, good you figured it out.
[18:18] <ala-lala> Oops
[18:18] <ala-lala> Accidental message
[18:18] <user123321> :D
[18:18] <delinquentme> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes // Warning: Permanently added '23.253.245.88' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
[18:19] <delinquentme> ^^ should I be worried that I've never deleted on of these keys??
[18:19] <delinquentme> I connect to a bunch of servers all the time ... >_<
[18:19] <TJ-> chmrr: I suspect the bug is in debian/patches/CVE-2013-4357.patch
[18:19] <ubottu> ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4357)
[18:20] <andre_> Guys I have a problem with my conection
[18:20] <andre_> I cant acess facebook and outlok web site
[18:20] <andre_> I tried with ubuntu, debian, and a clear ubuntu
[18:21] <TJ-> chmrr: that was according to the debian/changelog, however, the file's real name is debian/patches/any/CVE-2013-4357.diff
[18:21] <ubottu> ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4357)
[18:21] <andre_> With firefox, chrme and opera
[18:21] <jhutchins> andre_: Can you ping them?  Can you look them up?
[18:21] <andre_> yep
[18:21] <andre_> ping work
[18:22] <andre_> With windows work.
[18:22] <jhutchins> andre_: What browser?
[18:22] <andre_> chrome
[18:22] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah, patches/any/CVE-2013-4357.diff looks like the likely culprit
[18:22] <ubottu> ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4357)
[18:23] <jhutchins> andre_: Try firefox or lynx.
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> andre_  can you reach the site with the ip address in the browser? if yes, it's a dns issue
[18:23] <andre_> I tried firefox and opera.
[18:23] <jhutchins> andre_: Do you get an error message?
[18:23] <capable> nothing like a well informed bot
[18:23] <andre_> No, i dont get an error, the page simple dont load.
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> andre_  try the ip address in the address bar
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[18:24] <jhutchins> andre_: Make sure you've disabled any plugins.  Try lynx.
[18:24] <jhutchins> andre_: Does it time out or load a blank page or say host unreachable?
[18:25] <andre_> Dont load the page.
[18:25] <andre_> I tried the ping in the address bar.
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> andre_  just the number that ping gives you, right?
[18:28] <ThePerfectionist> It's over 9000!!! I think that I lost my Ipod!!!
[18:28] <andre_> yep
[18:29] <hey_joe> TJ-: can you elaborate?
[18:29] <NegativeDonut> hello?
[18:29] <NegativeDonut> Hello, anyone there?
[18:30] <NegativeDonut> or is everyone just getting timeout kicked here lol
[18:30] <NegativeDonut> clear
[18:30] <Pici> NegativeDonut: There are over 1,600 people here, if you have a question just ask.
[18:31] <NegativeDonut> oh nice, i'm just trying out IRC for the first time using irssi
[18:31] <jhutchins> NegativeDonut: You might want to play in #defocus then, this is a technical support channel.
[18:31] <capable> NegativeDonut: error, not a question! =P
[18:32] <ala-lala> I am too, except with chatzilla
[18:32] <NegativeDonut> sweet I'll move over there then, thanks
[18:32] <hey_joe> TJ-: what do you mean by underlying crypt library?
[18:32] <hey_joe> what is it using that doesnt support md5?
[18:32] <capable> NegativeDonut: oh, um, #defocus might give you quite a bad impression of the network =P
[18:33] <Pici> NegativeDonut: Our offical offtopic channel is #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:33] <tac_> Hey guys. I'm having an issue with downloading the latest Ubuntu from the website
[18:33] <tac_> I go through the menu and pick Desktop and 64-bit
[18:33] <tac_> and it's giving me the AMD version
[18:33] <tac_> While my computer is Intel.
[18:33] <capable> tac_: whereabouts are you, geographically?
[18:34] <rww> tac_: amd64 is the name of the architecture used by AMD and consumer Intel processors
[18:34] <Pici> tac_: amd64 is the canonical name for the 64 bit implementation
[18:34] <tac_> Oh, is that really the case?
[18:34] <Pici> er, what rww said.
[18:34] <capable> yes, AMD invented it
[18:34] <rww> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[18:34] <tac_> Forgive me for not being up to speed on hardware. Didn't there used to be an intel 64 bit proc design?
[18:34] <compdoc_> tac_, use it
[18:34] <capable> it's easier to get a download link from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors also
[18:34] <capable> tac_: there still is, but it lost
[18:35] <tac_> gotcha
[18:35] <tac_> all right
[18:35] <tac_> Thank you
[18:35] <rww> tac_: yes, Itanium. It's not used in consumer processors and isn't compatible with amd64.
[18:35] <capable> amd figured out how to make it backwards compatible with x86
[18:35] <rww> (and Ubuntu doesn't offer it I think)
[18:35] <capable> and cheaper =)
[18:35] <tac_> I feel kinda stupid for not having picked up on that
[18:35] <capable> tac_: nah
[18:35] <tac_> but at the same time.... I really don't pay attention to hardware trends ;X
[18:35] <tac_> but thank you very much!
[18:35] <capable> it's not something you should have to know
[18:37] <tac_> capable: as a developer, I really should :X
[18:38] <andre_> MonkeyDust, jhutchins, any idea?
[18:39] <tac_> Also, equally dumb question
[18:39] <tac_> I've seen the number "2GB" thrown around when talking about 32-bit systems
[18:40] <tac_> But 32 bits can adddress 4GB of memory
[18:40] <tac_> Where does that 2GB number come from?
[18:41] <rww> tac_: https://superuser.com/questions/253633/2gb-limit-on-32bit-operating-systems/253635#253635
[18:41] <tac_> oh thanks
[18:41] <rww> I forget if that's a Windows thing or an architecture thing.
[18:43] <tac_> well interesting to know about it
[18:43] <pinqvin> Hello how I can install additional drivers tool?
[18:43] <pinqvin> It is missing from my kx studio
[18:46] <yz3pD2>  sudo apt-get install software-properties-gtk
[18:46] <chmrr> TJ-: For the record, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1352504
[18:46] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1352504 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "Regression in 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14; segfault in getservbyname" [Undecided,New]
[18:47] <yz3pD2> or  sudo apt-get install software-properties-kde
[18:49] <ralph4100> I followed this tutorial to set up remote desktop via tightvnc viewer, but I logged out on the remote desktop and now I can't access it https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-vnc-for-ubuntu-12
[18:49] <ralph4100> I can't figure out what to do or even what to search for ... any ideas?
[18:50] <root_> mga yawa mong tanan..atay..piste jawa..
[18:51] <TJ-> chmrr: Thanks, I'll assign it to myself and work up a fix
[18:52] <root_> hoy calas atay kang dako..bonigsngis ka..sumbagay ta..
[18:52] <capable> tac_: no I mean, you should know it, but nobody should =)
[18:52] <TJ-> chmrr: Are you able to build and test that fix?
[18:53] <TeraJL> the mini version is the same as netinstall from unetbootin?
[18:53] <Ademan> So I've put my external drive into my fstab, but it seems like gvfs is still trying to mount it, do I need to screw with udev to stop that, surely gvfs ought to be smart enough to *not* do that?...
[18:53] <capable> Ademan: what'd you add to fstab?
[18:54] <capable> TeraJL: I haven't found unetbootin's downloader to be reliable, what I do is download from ubuntu mirrors, then tell unetbootin where the file is
[18:54] <root_> TeraJL,Ademan,capable..tabang mong tulo sumbagay ta..
[18:54] <capable> root_: ikr
[18:54] <TeraJL> capable: i've DD the mini.iso to the USB and it did not work
[18:54] <capable> TeraJL: what didn't work?
[18:55] <Ademan> capable: "UUID=0898336F98335B00 /media/extseagate ntfs-3g nobootwait,permissions 0 2" it mounts correctly with "mount /media/extseagate" but after a while gvfs seems to try to mount it or something
[18:55] <root_> unsay ikr?
[18:55] <Ademan> root_: Tagalog?
[18:55] <TeraJL> capable: the boot from the usb drive... on
[18:55] <root_> Ademan ..pakulata ka?
[18:55] <capable> TeraJL: what happens?
[18:55] <TeraJL> nothing
[18:56] <R13ose> I have removed gtk+ 3.0 and now my whole system is messed up.  I can't even connect to the internet, is there a way to fix this?
[18:56] <root_> Ademan tagalog ka?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> TeraJL  let unetbootin do the job, download the .iso, then use unetbootin to extract it to the usb stick
[18:56] <capable> why would you remove gtk+ 3
[18:56] <R13ose> capable: I was being stupid and wanted to upgrade but wasn't allowing me to do that so I thought to remove that.
[18:57] <Ademan> root_: #ubuntu-ph
[18:57] <chmrr> TJ-: I can't build it easily.  I can test it.
[18:58] <root_> Ademan..limbarok k..putang ina mo!!!
[18:58] <TJ-> chmrr: OK, I'm incorporating the patch now, then I can build it and let you have the binary libs so you can divert to them for a test
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> !english | root_
[18:58] <ubottu> root_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[18:58] <chmrr> Sounds good.
[18:58] <TJ-> chmrr: I have to get dinner shortly though, so I'll add notes and links to the bug report when its available
[18:58] <R13ose> Any ideas on my question?
[18:58] <chmrr> TJ-: *nod*  Thanks!
[18:58] <hey_joe> TJ-: i don't think it's pam-mysql with the md5 issue.  could it be libssl?
[18:59] <root_> fuck you guys!!!
[18:59] <R13ose> be right back
[18:59] <dD_> I cannot read certain DVDs that work in other systems.  I've already installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, but some dvds aren't shown, not even with just blkid.  I'm currently on Debian.  What can I do to fix this?
[19:00] <jak2000> hi all
[19:00] <jak2000> anyone can recommend me a torrent for ubuntu?
[19:01] <bazhang> !torrent | jak2000
[19:01] <ubottu> jak2000: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P
[19:02] <Beldar> dD_, #debian is the place
[19:02] <R13ose> back
[19:03] <ala-lala> Transmission comes with Ubuntu.
[19:06] <dD_> Beldar, I know, but nobody could answer there :/ I figured the problem should be similar enough in ubuntu
[19:06] <Kimberley22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/Rh9YfS
[19:06] <Beldar> dD_, It would seem that way we just only support ubuntu is all. ;)
[19:08] <Beldar> dD_, Probably use of a non free has generated a no response, keep that on the down low there, non free OS can be a bit retentive there. ;)
[19:09] <Beldar> We would be glad to have you in the ubuntu clan
[19:09] <R13ose> I removed gtk+ 3.0 by accident and now can't connect to the internet.  How do i fix this?
[19:10] <pranjal> can anybody help me regarding changing from ubuntu to xubuntu
[19:10] <dD_> Beldar, I was in the ubuntu clan. I left it after the amazon stuff happened :/  libdvdcss2 is free though, isn't it?
[19:10] <Beldar> pranjal, Probably, address the issue.
[19:10] <pranjal> i have install xubuntu desktop
[19:11] <pranjal> i had LXDE, i removed it, but the login window is still of lxde
[19:11] <pranjal> not of xubuntu
[19:11] <ahmadgbg> Can i restart the server while it is creating a raid 6? will it continue after the restart?
[19:11] <Beldar> dD_, We all have our issues, both here seem in my opinion trivial and can be dealt with.
[19:11] <pranjal> any solution
[19:12] <ala-lala> Did you purge LXDE?
[19:12] <pranjal> yup
[19:12] <ala-lala> huh
[19:12] <pranjal> i mean yes
[19:12] <ala-lala> weird
[19:12] <pranjal> the login window is still of lxde, i don't understand what the problem is
[19:13] <Beldar> pranjal, What release?
[19:13] <pranjal> even the booting window shows lubuntu
[19:13] <pranjal> 14.04 @beldar
[19:13] <ala-lala> Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
[19:13] <ala-lala> Oh
[19:13] <ala-lala> Yeah it does that.
[19:14] <ala-lala> Once I installed KDE, didn't like the theme, purged it, theme was still the KDE theme, eventually just reinstalled ubuntu.
[19:15] <pranjal> please don't suggest of reinstalling, i have already installed my ubuntu 2 times because of terrible system crashes, backuping the data and putting it again, it is just a waste of time
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> pranjal  there's a fix for that, moment
[19:15] <pranjal> ok
[19:16] <Beldar> pranjal, sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-logo plymouth-theme
[19:16] <pranjal> will that work?
[19:16] <Beldar> should
[19:16] <phelix> Anyone have an idea why sometimes when I insert my SD card it comes up but I don't have access to write to it? Its not locked and after a reboot then sometimes I can. Its like completly random when it lets me write to it or not
[19:16] <pranjal> ok , i'll try
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> pranjal  paste this line in a terminal    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:17] <Beldar> pranjal, Just the install of xubuntu should have replace it if done after a lubuntu /lxde removal, but I suspect you did not go in this order
[19:17] <pranjal> whom should i follow, beldar or monkeydust
[19:17] <Beldar> pranjal, note MonkeyDust's info as well
[19:18] <Beldar> try that first should work
[19:18] <pranjal> ok, i'll do the monkeydust's stuff
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> pranjal  and it's always wise to have backups
[19:20] <jkerning> I'm compiling a new kernel based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel , and it looks like the 'local version' tag I add to the kernel name (to indcate some custom changes) isn't getting propogated everywhere. Some step is looking for lib/modules/linux-*generic rather than lib/modules/linux-*-customblah. The comment just before the failed step is "Remove all modules not in the inclusion list". Any thoughts on how to
[19:20] <jkerning> fix this?
[19:20] <pranjal> @monkeydust, i worked i think, because it says the theme has successfully changed to xubuntu. Ya, keeping backup is very important indeed
[19:20] <pranjal> i'll just restart and check that one
[19:20] <pranjal> thank you all
[19:21] <R13ose> I removed gtk+ 3.0 by accident and now can't connect to the internet.  How do i connect to the internet?
[19:21] <Beldar> jkerning, Technically you are on your on there.
[19:21] <Beldar> own*
[19:21] <Bombo> i did 'apt-get install libopenal1' but get 'E: Unable to locate package libopenal1'
[19:21] <Beldar> !info libopenal1
[19:22] <ubottu> libopenal1 (source: openal-soft): Software implementation of the OpenAL API (shared library). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.14-4ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 175 kB, installed size 389 kB
[19:22] <R13ose> I know i can do sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge ubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <R13ose> Yet need internet
[19:22] <laspahr> well.. I finally got a new router! heh
[19:22] <Beldar> Bombo, ^^^^^^^ I hope you are not rooting your terminal rather than a sudo
[19:23] <pranjal> i worked, the booting window changed
[19:23] <pranjal> but the login window didn't
[19:24] <ala-lala> !info libopenal1 | Bombo
[19:24] <ubottu> Bombo: libopenal1 (source: openal-soft): Software implementation of the OpenAL API (shared library). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.14-4ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 175 kB, installed size 389 kB
[19:24] <pranjal> @beldar, @monkeydust
[19:24] <Bombo> Beldar: hmm i guess its trusty, where do i look the ubuntu version up?`
[19:25] <Beldar> Bombo, Check your sources are open
[19:25] <pranjal> @belder, my login window didn't change
[19:26] <Bombo> Beldar: what command do i type?
[19:26] <jiwan> having problem configure: error: Can't find gnome-xml library
[19:26] <Beldar> pranjal, If it were me I would probably do a reinstall of the xubuntu desktop, but thats just the easy peasy way.
[19:26] <jiwan> but i have installed ..libxml2 already ..
[19:26] <pranjal> ok, thank you
[19:27] <Beldar> Bombo, YOu can look at the list with gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    any # is a off
[19:28] <Beldar> Bombo, supported versions are the ones in the ubuntu repos technically.
[19:28] <R13ose> Hello?
[19:29] <Beldar> R13ose, Gotta practice patience here.
[19:29] <R13ose> I know but I am annoyed
[19:30] <Bombo> Beldar: says trusty
[19:30] <Beldar> Bombo, Am I supposed to guess your release?
[19:31] <Beldar> R13ose, Your mistake, annoying the channel is not helpful. ;)
[19:32] <R13ose> Beldar: yes I know sorry
[19:32] <Bombo> Beldar: nope, in /etc/apt/sources.list it says lots of *trusty* so i guess its trusty
[19:32] <Beldar> R13ose, You might find a deb of it if you search to just install.
[19:32] <Bombo> Beldar: plus the first line '# deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted'
[19:32] <R13ose> Beldar: how?
[19:33] <Beldar> Bombo, Right the cd is supposed to be off, are all repos open?
[19:33] <Beldar> R13ose, search the web with exact package and your relase and deb
[19:33] <samthewildone> I noticed for a while now that sometimes flash in youtube seems a bit delayed.
[19:34] <Bombo> Beldar: except for '# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner'
[19:34] <R13ose> Beldar: I have no internet on that computer
[19:34] <samthewildone> When I'm playing a video in chrome and click the back button the video keeps playing and the page doesn't change. The url does change but, seems like there is some sort of lag.
[19:34] <Beldar> R13ose, I think you can hit the web from the cli, not sure or how is all, that is all the help I can give.
[19:35] <samthewildone> Sometimes even when I click the back button ; all the way to the opening page, the video is still playing.
[19:35] <samthewildone> I highly suspect this is a flash problem.
[19:35] <Beldar> Bombo, might try removing # save do an update and try again
[19:36] <[GlaDOS]aics> ugh
[19:36] <jiwan> configure: error: Can't find gnome-xml library
[19:36] <jiwan> help please ...
[19:37] <R13ose> Beldar: the internet browser is there but no wireless comnection
[19:37] <Beldar> jiwan, No pleading and details for the channel.
[19:37] <Beldar> R13ose, Let me repeat, I have given you all the help I can, not an area I really know.
[19:38] <R13ose> Beldar: sorry
[19:38] <Scrivener> I know this'll probably be out of the scope of this channel... but why does the calculator in Ubuntu return (10^89)! as 1?
[19:39] <BlackPete> Scrivener, probably numeric overflow?
[19:39] <Ben64> R13ose: connect with a cable to reinstall things
[19:40] <R13ose> Ben64: i tried but didn't do anything
[19:40] <jiwan> configure: error: Can't find gnome-xml library
[19:40] <Ben64> R13ose: well that'd be easier to get working than wireless
[19:40] <BlackPete> jiwan, can you give more details?  First guess is that libxml2 is missing, perhaps.
[19:40] <R13ose> Ben64: trying again
[19:40] <jiwan> but i have installed it ...
[19:41] <jiwan> still it does the problem..
[19:41] <Ben64> jiwan: pastebin the full command and error you're getting. note i said pastebin. do not paste in the channel
[19:41] <jiwan> actually i tried to install dia-0.82 but at ./configure time ..it show me this problem...
[19:41] <jiwan> ok ...
[19:42] <BlackPete> jiwan, might be your PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not correct
[19:44] <R13ose> Ben64: I am connected to wired
[19:48] <jiwan> i paste it ..how will u see it..
[19:48] <jiwan> ben64...
[19:48] <jiwan> http://pastebin.com/b4hC8t5N
[19:48] <bekks> jiwan: You have to give us the URL of your pastebin.
[19:48] <bekks> jiwan: :)
[19:48] <jiwan> have u got it..
[19:49] <R13ose> Ben64: eth0 not showing up as connected
[19:50] <BartlomiejB> hello.
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[19:52] <jiwan> bekks...??????????? ...
[19:53] <FD> hello everyone...i have new 18" acer monitor,my problem is i can't get 1280 or above resolution..still 1024 below..any idea please..
[19:53] <bekks> FD: So whats the native resolution of your monitor?
[19:54] <FD> 1024x768..
[19:54] <FD> picture is so wide..
[19:54] <jiwan> ben64 ?????????????
[19:55] <bekks> FD: So you cannot get more than 1024x768 if the monitor doesnt support it.
[19:55] <BartlomiejB> I have a laptop with Windows 8 and UEFI. It has 2 SSD disks, used in RAID0 (seen as one logical disk). after installing Ubuntu I have a message "no bootable device found" and nothing starts, no Windows nor Ubuntu. how to fix that?
[19:55] <FD> yes..
[19:55] <FD> i try search for acer..i can't get it..
[19:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[19:55] <ubottu> pong!
[19:56] <BlackPete> jiwan, there really wasn't enough information in your pastebin.  What's the command you're running?
[19:56] <bekks> FD: I feel that we might talked about different things. Looking at manual of the monitor, whats the highest resolution mentioned in there?
[19:56] <jiwan> i am running ./configure
[19:56] <BartlomiejB> I resized Windows partition to make space for Linux, then created ext4 and swap, installed Ubuntu on it successfully - and then I have this message.
[19:56] <BlackPete> jiwan, what piece of software are you configuring?
[19:56] <jiwan> dia-0.82
[19:56] <bekks> !info dia
[19:56] <ubottu> dia (source: dia): Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97.2-15ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 158 kB, installed size 586 kB
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[19:57] <bekks> jiwan: Which ubuntu release are you on?
[19:57] <BlackPete> jiwan, oh, right, I saw you mention that before; didn't understand that's what you're trying to install.
[19:57] <FD> actually i have dual os.. i'm running windows 7 and linux..on windows side nothing problem..only in linux i can't run high resolution..
[19:57] <BlackPete> jiwan, have you installed libxml-devel?
[19:58] <jiwan> i am using customized version of linux based on debian ...
[19:58] <bekks> jiwan: So you arent using Ubuntu then?
[19:59] <FD> hello bekks..any idea
[19:59] <jiwan> not but it is not showing on dependend package ..
[19:59] <BartlomiejB> any hints?
[19:59] <jiwan> yeah..
[19:59] <BlackPete> jiwan: any time you're building from source, you'll need to get the devel packages for the dependencies
[20:00] <bekks> jiwan: And as long as you arent using Ubuntu, you should ask the support of your distro :)
[20:00] <jiwan> why this package does shows when i tried to find dependencies by using apt-cache depends dia command
[20:00] <BlackPete> FD: linux can be picky about the video card - there are limited drivers available.  Look around for how supported your video card is
[20:00] <jiwan> thanks bekks...
[20:01] <bekks> FD: Looking at manual of the monitor, whats the highest resolution mentioned in there?
[20:01] <BlackPete> jiwan: apt-cache shows the dependencies for isntalling packages, not for building from source
[20:02] <jiwan> then how to find the dependencies for the package for building from source
[20:02] <jiwan> i mostly encountered this problem..
[20:02] <jiwan> its too much headeche for me..
[20:03] <FD> on windows looks ok ,but in linux the higher resolution is 1024..
[20:03] <bekks> jiwan: On the current Ubuntu release, dia is at version 0.97.2 - we dont know much about your specific distro, since you are not using Ubuntu.
[20:04] <FD> i tried other linux like kali linux,manjaru,linux mint still have a graphics problem
[20:04] <BlackPete> jiwan: building from source is indeed a headache at times.  That's why the various package systems are so popular. :-)
[20:04] <cgroza> FD: what graphics card?
[20:05] <jay__> Hey can someone help me get my thinkpad trackpoint working? The touchpad works fine but the trackpoint doesn't even show up
[20:05] <jiwan> bekks: is there any way .. so that i can find ... dependencies .. for the package that i tried to build from source..
[20:05] <bekks> jiwan: You have to ask the support of your distro, really.
[20:05] <jiwan> BlackPete: Like ...
[20:05] <FD> graphics card driver for acer monitor,any idea
[20:07] <cgroza> FD: post the output of lspci in pasteit.com
[20:07] <jiwan> can i download all dependencies all from internet and compile ..it ..manually...
[20:07] <FD> lspci?
[20:07] <cgroza> FD: i mean pastebin.com
[20:07] <bekks> jiwan: We dont know how to do that on your distro.
[20:07] <jiwan> so that letter on i could ..install it without internet..
[20:07] <kingbeowolf> can i restore the ubuntu backup from a live cd to another drive some how?
[20:07] <jiwan> :bekks:its same on as we do on ubuntu
[20:08] <jiwan> not different..
[20:08] <kingbeowolf> do i just jump on a live cd and restore the backup files?
[20:08] <bekks> jiwan: But we dont support your distro.
[20:08] <cgroza> FD: it's to find out your graphics card.
[20:08] <FD> i have 18" acer monitor i can't high resolution..
[20:08] <jiwan> but we support linux...
[20:08] <bekks> jiwan: We dont know nothing about differences, pitfalls, etc.
[20:08] <kingbeowolf> currently i don't have ubuntu install on any drive but i need the files
[20:08] <bekks> jiwan: In here, Ubuntu is supported. For general linux support, you can visit #linux e.g.
[20:09] <BlackPete> jiwan: you can download all dependencies and build it, and then install w/out Internet connection, as long as you include all libraries being used. ldd can help you track down dependencies once you get it built.  But this is a difficult and time-consuming task.
[20:09] <BlackPete> FD: the resolution is limited by your video card, not by your monitor in this case
[20:09] <jiwan> thank u blackPete:
[20:10] <bekks> BlackPete: We still dont know the maximum resolution his monitor is capable of.
[20:10] <FD> yah..i think..
[20:10] <jiwan> but i think it will become .. nice when done job at once..
[20:10] <jiwan> isn;t it..
[20:11] <cgroza> FD: did you install the driver for you graphics card?
[20:11] <jay__> Anyone? Trackpoint issues :(
[20:11] <FD> no..i didn't..i don't have driver for acer on linux..
[20:12] <BlackPete> bekks: we don't, but it's an 18", and he said that the resolution in Windows is higher than 1924x768
[20:12] <OerHeks> bekks, FD we don't know the GPU either
[20:12] <cgroza> FD: which is why you need to post lspci
[20:12] <OerHeks> lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:12] <jiwan> BlackPete: do i need to install app to do ldd first ???
[20:13] <FD> my acer monitor model is S191HQL 18"...
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[20:14] <cgroza> FD: that is not the GPU, the problem might be related to your graphics card too.
[20:14] <kingbeowolf> can i restore the ubuntu backup from a live cd to another drive some how?
[20:14] <FD> how do i know my graphics card?
[20:14] <bekks> According to the interwebs, that monitor does 1366x768 at most. So now it is a question of the GPU.
[20:15] <cgroza> FD: with lspci | grep VGA
[20:17] <BlackPete> jiwan: no; ldd should be a built-in utility.  you might have to install a development package, but I don't think so.
[20:18] <FD> so my Graphics card has a problem..
[20:18] <bekks> FD: We dont know. You still have to tell us which GPU you are using.
[20:18] <jiwan> BlackPete: it is built -in installed but ..
[20:19] <FD> GPU is graphics card right?
[20:19] <cgroza> FD: yes
[20:19] <BlackPete> jiwan: but…?
[20:19] <bekks> FD: Can you please tell us the output of the command given?
[20:19] <jiwan> let me explain..me i wanna get dependencies for build package that haven't installed on system yet..does it work...??
[20:19] <jiwan> or first i need to install it..
[20:19] <bekks> jiwan: Do you use Ubuntu, yes or no?
[20:20] <kingbeowolf> anyone used the ubuntu backup system to restore files?
[20:20] <FD> u mean wat?
[20:20] <kingbeowolf> anyone at all?
[20:20] <kingbeowolf> :D
[20:20] <FD> what command?
[20:20] <cgroza> jiwan: you need developement packages for building, i think.
[20:20] <hephaestus_rg> hello
[20:20] <jiwan> sorry bekks....but i have no different on ubuntu and on my system..
[20:20] <cgroza> FD: are you trolling?
[20:20] <bekks> FD: The command is: lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:20] <cgroza> FD: the command is lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:21] <Beldar> kingbeowolf, The channel asks for 10 min between inquiries, ask thew actual question, not a whom.
[20:21] <Beldar> the*
[20:21] <bekks> jiwan: As long as you dont use ubuntu, or an official derivative, it is not supported in here.
[20:21] <jiwan> bekks: i have tried on #linux channel but i am not able to post their my problem there ...
[20:21] <bekks> jiwan: Can you please name the distro you are using?
[20:21] <jiwan> chitwanix..
[20:21] <bekks> jiwan: So please seek the support of chitwanix
[20:21] <kingbeowolf> need to restore some files using the ubuntu back up system wondering if anyone has done it
[20:22] <Beldar> !register | jiwan  Some channels need you registered
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[20:22] <FD> ok her's the result sorry ....lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:22] <FD> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:22] <kingbeowolf> i think it is deja dup
[20:23] <hephaestus_rg> hello, i'm trying to update my ubuntu install on digitalocean
[20:23] <hephaestus_rg> and it gets to a point where i need to pick an encoding
[20:23] <FD> it say's compatible..
[20:23] <hephaestus_rg> and the terminal gets all colorful and bold, and i'm not sure what to do (it presents a modal-like thing in the terminal)
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[20:23] <cgroza> FD: does ubuntu show any drivers in additional drivers?
[20:24] <pbx> hephaestus_rg, what does digitalocean support say?
[20:24] <Beldar> hephaestus_rg, All in one post or it gets lost
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[20:24] <hephaestus_rg> i'll do a gist
[20:24] <jkcso> hephaestus_rg, what country are you in and what language do you speak?
[20:26] <hephaestus_rg> USA, english
[20:26] <hephaestus_rg> i'll get a screenshot too
[20:27] <jkcso> en_US.utf8
[20:27] <hephaestus_rg> should i be typing that?
[20:27] <jkcso> Is that not an option?
[20:27] <jkcso> Yeah, let's see a screen
[20:28] <hephaestus_rg> i have it running again, waiting at "Calculating the changes
[20:28] <hephaestus_rg> will link screenshot when it gets there
[20:29] <jiwan> Thank u BlackPet,bekks,ubottu so so much...
[20:30] <FD> cgroza..
[20:32] <cgroza> FD: are any drivers displayed?
[20:35] <FD> actally i'm using HP G60 laptop and i connect it to my external acer monitor because the display on my laptop was damage so thats i'm using external..
[20:36] <capable> you should replace the display or the laptop
[20:36] <capable> no point losing productivity by not spending money
[20:36] <capable> you have to play life the way you play Starcraft: aggressively
[20:37] <samthewildone> Setting up default applications, how do I do it ?
[20:37] <samthewildone> VLC for all my videos, adobe reader for all pdfs...etc
[20:37] <guntbert> capable: please stay on topic
[20:37] <capable> samthewildone: via the file manager
[20:37] <capable> guntbert: sup gunt
[20:38] <capable> samthewildone: right click, properties or something like that
[20:38] <FD> so it might graphics driver issue..
[20:38] <capable> FD: what might?
[20:39] <samthewildone> I cannot add my own application. I just gives me a list of preselected options.
[20:39] <deadlyninja> ls
[20:39] <capable> samthewildone: what did you want to add?
[20:40] <capable> deadlyninja: Desktop
[20:40] <samthewildone> "acroread"
[20:40] <capable> samthewildone: you can find the executable at /usr/bin/
[20:41] <samthewildone> /usr/bin/acroread
[20:41] <deadlyninja> hey ive got a legacy 32bit elf binary that ran fine in ubuntu 13.10 64-bit, but now on 14.04 64-bit it doesnt run, do i need to install something to enable 32bit apps?
[20:41] <capable> samthewildone: that's almost certainly it
[20:41] <capable> deadlyninja: what does it say when you run it - from a terminal?
[20:42] <jay__> Can someone help me get my trackpoint working? It won't even show up in xinput
[20:42] <capable> jay__: sure
[20:42] <capable> jay__: what's the laptop make/model?
[20:42] <jay__> capable: Lenovo t440s
[20:42] <capable> jay__: does it work outside of X?
[20:42] <deadlyninja> "./codwaw_lnxded-bin: No such file or directory" when it is clearly there
[20:43] <jay__> capable: I'm not sure how to test it outside of x
[20:43] <capable> samthewildone: oh, ffr, you can find executable paths via, for example, dpkg -L packageName | grep -i bin
[20:43] <capable> samthewildone: but they do tend to all be in /usr/bin/
[20:43] <deadlyninja> codwaw_lnxded-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.18, stripped
[20:43] <guntbert> jay__: did it work at some time before?
[20:43] <jay__> guntbert: yes
[20:43] <capable> jay__: you can do this: press CTRL+ALT+F2, log in if you have to, sudo cat /dev/input/mice, move the touchpad and see if you get gibberish output, then CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back
[20:44] <deadlyninja> i think before i had ia32-libs installed, but they dont exist anymore
[20:44] <samthewildone> I fixed it/
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[20:44] <samthewildone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1500211
[20:44] <capable> jay__: actually, I'm sure you can do that inside X, forget the CTRL+ALT stuff =P
[20:44] <samthewildone> the last 2 post showed me
[20:44] <capable> jay__: just open a terminal and run the sudo bit
[20:44] <guntbert> jay__: best advice: pull it out, stick it back in
[20:44] <capable> guntbert: a trackpoint?
[20:45] <guntbert> capable: yes, the little red item in thinkpad keyboards
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[20:45] <ktespu> can any one help me with tts
[20:45]  * capable shrugs
[20:45] <jay__> capable: Nothing, though I see output when I move my trackpad
[20:45] <capable> ktespu: with what?
[20:45] <capable> jay__: okay
[20:46] <ktespu> i want tts like balabolka
[20:46] <jay__> capable: So to clarify, my trackpad works, my trackpoint does not
[20:46] <guntbert> jay__: there have been reports about disconnected cables too...
[20:46] <asdsd> How do I prevent gdm for autostarting? I've tried update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[20:46] <hephaestus_rg> now it doesn't seem to progress past 'calculating the changes'
[20:47] <asdsd> s/for/from
[20:47] <capable> jay__: dual booting?
[20:47] <jay__> capable: Nope
[20:47] <capable> jay__: you might double check it's enabled in the BIOS/etc.
[20:48] <ktespu> i installed Festival and MBROLA voices
[20:48] <jay__> capable: Checked that earlier, it's enabled
[20:48] <jay__> guntbert: Interesting
[20:48] <ktespu> but dont know how to run
[20:48] <asdsd> Google is being useless, anyone know how to disable gdm autolaunch?
[20:49] <guntbert> jay__: thats why I suggested to pull/put it once
[20:49] <capable> jay__: try this: put a finger on the touchpad and try to use the trackpoint
[20:49] <jay__> guntbert: Yeah I just wanted to exhaust all other possibilities first because yanking the whole keyboard out is a pain
[20:49] <ktespu> there is no app i can see in app list
[20:49] <capable> ktespu: what's up?
[20:49] <tac_> Does Ubuntu still offer a live CD?
[20:50] <capable> tac_: yes
[20:50] <guntbert> jay__: of course, but you can pull the point out without disassembling anything
[20:50] <tac_> I did a search on the site and came up empty
[20:50] <capable> tac_: whereabouts are you geographically?
[20:50] <tac_> Chicago
[20:50] <ktespu> i installed Festival and MBROLA voices,but dont know how to run,there is no app i can see in app list
[20:51] <capable> tac_: then you're right near the fastest Ubuntu mirror in the USA: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/
[20:51] <jay__> guntbert: Oh?
[20:51] <bprompt> tac_:     are you asking for the liveCD shipped over snail mail?
[20:51] <jay__> capable: Nothing
[20:51] <tac_> No. I just am more familiar with that style of install than ISO/USB boot
[20:51] <capable> jay__: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T440s-Trackpoint-problems/td-p/1317829#link_17 for guntbert's suggestion
[20:52] <capable> tac_: the 'minimalcd' image fits on a CD
[20:52] <capable> tac_: most of the other images require a DVD
[20:52] <guntbert> jay__: just use your fingernails and pull - its easy :)
[20:52] <TJ-> chmrr: Are you still here? What architecture (i386 amd64) do you need building?
[20:53] <asdsd> Is it that people do not know how to prevent G/-DM from autolaunching?
[20:53] <capable> asdsd: what'd you try, again?
[20:53] <capable> and why do you want gdm to not launch
[20:53] <bprompt> tac_:     you can burn the iso to an usb.... . doesn't have to be a dvd... and surely a 2gbs usb stick these days are a relic anyway....so you'd have one
[20:53] <jay__> capable: from the response right under than "I tried removing the keyboard, but it doesn't look like i can simply unplug and replug the Trackpoint/ keyboard. Beneath the keyboard is bare plastic, and the ribbon connector goes through the bare plastic to the motherboard on the other side. Even if I take off the bottom cover of the laptop, I won't get access to the connector, unless I'm missing something here... "
[20:53] <jay__> that*
[20:53] <asdsd> capable: i just want to start it manually
[20:54] <asdsd> update-rc.d -f gdm remove *says* it is doing something but nooo
[20:54] <capable> jay__: mmm, well, I'd believe a lenovo manual before some random guy on a forum, but
[20:54] <capable> jay__: what're your other options anyways =)
[20:54] <capable> asdsd: but no?
[20:54] <TJ-> asdsd: Is the service started from a sysV init script, or from an Upstart config ?
[20:54] <asdsd> btw, gdm can only be started/stopped by service gdm start/stop, using /etc/init.d/gdm gives an error
[20:54] <asdsd> TJ-: i just typed apt-get install gdm
[20:55] <capable> well that's no matter, use 'server'
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[20:55] <FD> what is kernel driver i915?
[20:55] <capable> service*
[20:55] <hujn> Is Skype not available for 14.04 LTS?
[20:55] <capable> FD: why do you ask?
[20:55] <capable> hujn: I'm sure it is
[20:55] <jay__> capable: The guy that suggested that is just a normal user on the forum :)
[20:55] <asdsd> capable: anyway, how do i retard it at boot?
[20:55] <jay__> capable, guntbert: Thanks anyways :S
[20:55] <capable> asdsd: perhaps http://askubuntu.com/questions/151840/how-to-disable-gdm-from-being-automatically-started
[20:55] <sethj> hujn I used it just today :)
[20:55] <capable> jay__: right, but it's a link to an official manual, isn't it?
[20:55] <FD> i'm having reslotion issues i can't get high resolution..
[20:56] <asdsd> capable: i just said i tried that?
[20:56] <capable> asdsd: you tried everything on that page that you could've possibly have read yet?
[20:56] <capable> impressive
[20:56] <asdsd> capable: already read it
[20:56] <asdsd> nothing in /etc/default/grub
[20:57] <capable> you can just uninstall it if you don't want it
[20:57] <capable> display managers are more useful for multi-user systems
[20:57] <asdsd> capable: i need it, but not at every boot
[20:57] <capable> what do you need it for?
[20:57] <asdsd> capable: stuff
[20:57] <asdsd> capable: lynx really isnt all that
[20:58] <ktespu> I used this guide(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751169) and installed and MBROLA voices,but dont know how to run,there is no app i can see in app list
[20:59] <capable> asdsd: you need gdm so you can use an alternative to lynx?
[20:59] <capable> asdsd: you may misunderstand what DMs do =)
[21:00] <ktespu> anyone please
[21:00] <capable> ktespu: please what?
[21:00] <ktespu> I used this guide(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751169) and installed Festvox diphone voices and MBROLA voices,but dont know how to run,there is no app i can see in app list
[21:00] <capable> ktespu: did you install a .deb?
[21:00] <ktespu> no
[21:01] <hujn> sethj: using the ubuntu 12 installer?
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> ktespu  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntustudio, it's multimedia dedicated
[21:01] <asdsd> capable: i need gnome for basic sh1t
[21:01] <ktespu> thanks
[21:01] <capable> asdsd: right, but you don't need gdm to use gnome
[21:01] <TJ-> asdsd: if it is Upstart you'll need to put a <service-name>.override file in "/etc/init/" containing "manual"
[21:01] <capable> TJ-: said he already tried that =)
[21:01] <sethj> hujn I'm guessing you are trying to get skype 4.3?
[21:02] <hujn> yes
[21:03] <sethj> hujn, what version of Ubuntu are you running? I installed 4.3 on Trusty from the Precise .deb, but they have since gotten 4.3 into the main 14.04 repos.
[21:03] <TJ-> asdsd: what does "[ -f "/etc/init/gdm.conf" ] && echo "Upstart" || echo "SysV" report?
[21:03] <hephaestus_rg> is there some way to get the version of ubuntu i have installed?
[21:03] <asdsd> TJ-: dont know, using windows atm
[21:03] <hephaestus_rg> from shell
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> hephaestus_rg  cat /etc/issue
[21:04] <hephaestus_rg> ok
[21:04] <hephaestus_rg> seems like rebooting fixed all my problems
[21:04] <hujn> sethj: 14.04LTS, I downloaded some skype 4.3 debian installer from the skype homepåage now, not sure how to install it or if it will work
[21:04] <hephaestus_rg> pro tip: `reboot`
[21:04] <asdsd> TJ-: so i need a file named "gdm.override" containing just the word "manual"?
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> hephaestus_rg  that's 'the windows trick'
[21:04] <TJ-> asdsd: Well, as i said earlier, if there is a "/etc/init/gdm.conf" then it is upstart, and you need "manual" in "/etc/init/gdm.override"; if it is "/etc/init.d/gdm" then use "update-rc.d... " to disable it from runlevels 2-5
[21:04] <sethj> hujn, it will work, I installed it. However, now you can just install it the normal way: sudo apt update && sudo apt install skype
[21:05] <asdsd> TJ-:  "manual" is the only word to put in that file?
[21:05] <TJ-> asdsd: Yes, exactly as I am showing in quote marks
[21:05] <asdsd> thanks
[21:05] <TJ-> asdsd: As in, everything I write *inside* quote-marks is what you should use
[21:08] <hujn> sethj: not apt-get? what is the diff between apt and apt-get?
[21:08] <capable> apt-get uses apt uses dpkg
[21:08] <capable> man apt-get, etc.
[21:08] <sethj> hujn, in 14.04 they enabled shorthand, apt-get to apt. sorry for the confusion.
[21:09] <sethj> it's the same thing.
[21:09] <hujn> sudo apt update && sudo apt install skype => E: Unable to locate package skype
[21:10] <sethj> wait, skype is in multiverse isn't it?
[21:10] <capable> it's somewhere
[21:10] <sethj> hujn, can you get a screenshot of the 'software and updates' window?
[21:11] <sethj> You probably need to enable the 'software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)' checkbox..
[21:12] <sethj> this is what mine looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Pluf53N.png
[21:12] <annoymouse> Well, I made my LiveUSB
[21:12] <capable> someone should really just make a script, named yeah-so-debian-et-al-wont-get-sued-anyways-this-fixes-all-the-nonsense.sh
[21:12] <capable> that just gives you mp3s and whatnot =P
[21:12] <annoymouse> Maybe I just haven't used it enough yet, but I'm not as impressed as I expected to be with Ubuntu
[21:12] <capable> annoymouse: what are you missing?
[21:13] <sethj> capable, that would help, yeah ;P
[21:13] <annoymouse> capable: Nothing in particular. I guess I just set my expectations too high
[21:14] <capable> annoymouse: but you can't quantify 'high'?
[21:14] <capable> =P
[21:14] <TJ-> seth87_: hujn I thought Skype was in the partner repository?
[21:14] <hujn> sethj: where do i fnd the software and updates window?
[21:15] <hujn> Im a bit of a noob, where is the partner repo?
[21:15] <annoymouse> capable: about a gram high ;)
[21:15] <sethj> hujn, open the software center and go to 'Edit -> software sources'.
[21:15] <R13ose> I am getting this error when I go into network settings "the system network services are not compatible with this version" How do I fix this?
[21:15] <sethj> or you can just search for it in the dash ;)
[21:16] <capable> annoymouse: ha
[21:16] <capable> it's better than Windows, that's not much when you think about it, but it's nice
[21:16] <annoymouse> I use OS X
[21:16] <capable> better than that, too
[21:16] <annoymouse> I know this probably sounds ridiculous, but the scrolling in Ubuntu is really pissing me off
[21:17] <capable> you can disable it
[21:17] <capable> or use another DE
[21:17] <annoymouse> It just doesn't seem realistic
[21:17] <cemotyz09> I would think it would be pretty similar so maybe that's why
[21:17] <z1haze> can anyone tell me if this will cause to lose all of my data? http://www.sysadminworld.com/2012/how-to-switch-to-the-standard-ubuntu-kernel-on-ovh/
[21:18] <capable> z1haze: I haven't read that, but changing a kernel does not delete data
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> annoymouse  this is the ubuntu support channel, stick to support questions, please
[21:18] <annoymouse> MonkeyDust: Sorry m8
[21:18] <z1haze> could you do me a solid and verify that? im not very exerienced i dont want to lose all of my information, its iomportant
[21:18] <hujn> Edit? there is no edit in my ubuntu sw center
[21:18] <pbx> how do i make evolution my default mail client? thunderbird launches when i click a mailto:
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> pbx  system settings > details
[21:19] <sethj> hujn, like this: http://i.imgur.com/rnlM4qt.png ?
[21:20] <pbx> MonkeyDust, aha! thanks
[21:20] <annoymouse> MonkeyDust: Is there a Ubuntu "debate" chan?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> annoymouse  #ubuntu-offtopic
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[21:22] <DarkStar1> hi guys. I think I botched my php5 install. How can I purge so I can retry installation?
[21:22] <DarkStar1> found http://askubuntu.com/questions/59886/how-to-compelety-remove-php
[21:23] <DarkStar1> but torn between accepted answer and what others are saying
[21:24] <microm> I cannot upgrade nor remove cups anymore, not sure why -> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cups not found.
[21:24] <sethj> DarkStarI it is always a good idea to stay away from asterisks in apt commands.
[21:24] <sethj> DarkStar1 --^
[21:24] <hujn> sethj, and then in thensoftware and updates I do what?
[21:24] <microm> /etc/init.d/cups: broken symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[21:24] <hujn> go to other software?
[21:24] <hujn> and add canonical partners?
[21:25] <sethj> hujn, no, simpler than that. Just make sure the second-last checkbox is checked (on the first tab) http://i.imgur.com/rdao55Y.png
[21:26] <hujn> it is checked already, now what?
[21:26] <sethj> hujn, can I see a screenshot of the entire window then?
[21:28] <TJ-> DarkStar1: The best way is to remove the main php package, e.g. "sudo apt-get purge php5" for PHP version 5.x, and then do "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove all the packages that are no longer required
[21:28] <DarkStar1> TJ-:  thanks
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[21:29] <asds> TJ-: echo "manual" > /etc/init.gdm.override worked
[21:29] <asds> rather /etc/init/gdm.override
[21:30] <TJ-> asds: Yes... you can still start the service manually of course
[21:33] <asds> TJ-: THANK YOU
[21:33] <asds> TJ-: Do I have to enable system locales to select specific ones in gnome?
[21:33] <Asterisks> sethj: Yeah, DarkStar1.  stay away from me in apt commands you dick
[21:33] <sethj> asterisks, lol, did that highlight you?
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[21:34] <Asterisks> sethj: yep :P
[21:34] <Asterisks> i love my nick sometimes
[21:34] <sethj> hujn, ok, I just looked it up (been a long time since I've done this). You were correct, skype isn't in multiverse, it is in canonical partner. So checking 'Canonical Partners' in the 'Other software' tab will work. http://i.imgur.com/MyJDmeC.png
[21:35] <hujn> ty, i installed it it
[21:35] <rypervenche> Does anyone know if using "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart" on Ubuntu 14.04 could cause the network to stop working? Not all interfaces, but on my eth2 it won't connect to a server of mine. Rebooting fixed it though. Before tcpdump would not see pings or any other traffic. Any ideas?
[21:35] <hujn> multiverse has any relation to planescape torment?
[21:35] <microm> Anyone know how to fix this the right way: /etc/init.d/cups: broken symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[21:36] <sethj> hujn, don't think so..
[21:36] <R13ose> hi?
[21:36] <hujn> Anyone here playing with raspberry pies?
[21:37] <R13ose> How come the battery icon on the panel is not updating?  I am not charging, yet it says it is, any ideas how to fix this?
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[21:39] <unclescratchie> need help with gparted.....dell laptop had win XP,  installed ubuntu using whole disk,  grub will not install
[21:39] <foxx> any got any recommendations for hosted server monitoring? e.g. an alternative to zabbix/cacti as an *aaS offering
[21:43] <grrizd75> hello
[21:43] <unclescratchie> nobody here
[21:43] <unclescratchie> i need help with ubuntu install ...grub not installing
[21:44] <rypervenche> Does "service apache2 restart" still work in 14.04?
[21:46] <unclescratchie> is anyone here ?????????????????????????///
[21:46] <unclescratchie> is
[21:46] <unclescratchie> anyone
[21:46] <unclescratchie> here
[21:47] <unclescratchie> hello
[21:47] <unclescratchie> hello
[21:47] <unclescratchie> help
[21:47] <unclescratchie> help
[21:47] <woonille> ?
[21:47] <unclescratchie> hello
[21:47] <woonille> unclescratchie, no flood
[21:47] <Humbedooh> rypervenche: it ought to work, yes
[21:49] <unclescratchie> how do i format entire hd using the terminal,  there are multple partitions and gparted will not erase them
[21:51] <defluct> Check this blog post out: http://scriptcult.com/subcategory_143/article_574-format-drive-using-fdisk-on-linux.htm
[21:57] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: OK, show us what you are working with; terminal command -> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- amd pass the resulting URL back here.
[22:03] <coolstar> I remember back in the day there was this awesome game I used to play on Linux, it had "tux" in it, but I can't remember what it was. Any ideas what it might be?
[22:03] <coolstar> it had tux sliding on snow collecting objects, etc
[22:03] <Tux> tux racer?
[22:03] <TJ-> coolstar: "apt-cache search tux" might help jog your memory
[22:04] <jak2000> TJ- not work for me: dns-nameservers wich is wrong? thanks
[22:04] <coolstar> tux: ah, that was it "Extreme tux racer"
[22:04] <coolstar> thanks
[22:04] <coolstar> :)
[22:05] <TJ-> jak2000: "not work" doesn't tell me anything. *what* does not work? all name resolution, routing by hostname, routing my IP address?
[22:05] <amriunix> Tux: and whats this game is about !!! like super mario !!!
[22:05] <coolstar> amriunix: not really, it has tux sliding down a mountain
[22:06] <coolstar> amriunix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/extremetuxracer/
[22:06] <jak2000> ping 8.8.8.8 not answer.
[22:06] <jak2000> if i do a ping to any pc on my lan, answer..
[22:07] <amriunix> coolstar: this game back to 2007 !!!
[22:07] <coolstar> amriunix: I remember playing this and supertuxkart back in the day
[22:08] <coolstar> made my friends jealous of my linux desktop xD
[22:08] <amriunix> coolstar: hhhhh xD
[22:08] <coolstar> although they were really impressed by compix :P
[22:08] <coolstar> *compiz
[22:11] <TJ-> jak2000: Is the default route configured?
[22:12] <TeraJL> i've installed a minimal install, how can i get software sources installed?
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[22:15] <jak2000> TJ- yes in /etc/network/interfaces
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[22:16] <TJ-> jak2000: It may be there, but have you checked it is in the routing table ("ip route ls") ?
[22:17] <unclescratchie> I have 1.0 kb partition on a hard drive  that is partitioned as BOOT.....cant delete from terminal, gpated, or disk utility.....please help
[22:17] <enkindle> How do you nice two commands run with a |? Like "nice -n19 cmd1 | cmd2" ? But will this nice cmd2?
[22:17] <Mdgd`> Hey fellas.
[22:17] <jak2000> TJ- http://pastie.org/9445589
[22:18] <Mdgd`> I'm just spitballing an idea here and I'd like to know if this is possible/get some pointers.. I'd like to set up a bunch of terminals, that all run their GUI sessions on a remote server by default.
[22:18] <jak2000> the ip: 192.168.4.0  is my wlan...
[22:18] <meltingwax> Mdgd`: why not just ssh -X and run gnome-terminal on the remote machine
[22:19] <meltingwax> Mdgd`: then just make new terminals through it and launch the apps from command line
[22:20] <jak2000> my default gw: 192.168.0.254
[22:20] <m1dnight_> Should I upgrade my samba version on my 12.04 server? (im running 3.6.3) per the article on ars: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/08/critical-code-execution-bug-in-samba-gives-attackers-superuser-powers/
[22:20] <Mdgd`> meltingwax, I want to remove local sessions as much as possible.
[22:20] <compdoc_> that sounds like a 'yes'
[22:20] <Bashing-om> TeraJL: This ?? -> apt-cache show software-properties-gtk <- .
[22:20] <TJ-> jak2000: Well, the default is set by the wlan interface by the look of that "192.168.4.1"
[22:21] <Mdgd`> Ideally X server doesn't run locally at all.
[22:21] <jak2000> how to change? to 192.168.0.254 ?
[22:21] <TJ-> jak2000: Are you configuring wlan0 manually, or via Network Manager
[22:21] <jak2000> Network Manager / Dhcp
[22:22] <TJ-> jak2000: And are you using the Network Manager GUI dialog boxes to configure that ?
[22:22] <jak2000> not
[22:22] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: My :57 entry refers  -> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- for assistance .
[22:22] <TJ-> jak2000: you are using nmcli?
[22:23] <jak2000> TJ- need go to a metting with my boos, return in 1 hour, thanks (escuse me i apreciate your help)
[22:23] <meltingwax> Mdgd`: Have you looked into rdesktop or VNC? It basically gives a window on your desktop which is the same as the desktop on the other machine
[22:24] <unclescratchie> BAshing:  cannot
[22:24] <Mdgd`> I'm familiar with both but I've always used them as an application running on a local GUI shell, I'm wondering if they can substitute it entirely.
[22:24] <capable> Mdgd`: substitute what entirely?
[22:24] <unclescratchie> Bashng: the laptop Im working on will not connet to the net
[22:24] <Mdgd`> Gnome/KDE
[22:25] <capable> Mdgd`: rdp/vnc are not desktop environments, if that's what you're asking
[22:25] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: cannot, is not in our vocabulary .. can you boot the liveDVD of ubuntu ?
[22:25] <meltingwax> Mdgd`: why not just full screen rdp/vnc?
[22:25] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: Here just some things you can check: xpra, remmina
[22:25] <capable> Mdgd`: oh is that all you want?
[22:25] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  yes.  can not format the hd
[22:25] <bluesceada> xpra is similar to screen for X applications
[22:26] <Mdgd`> capable, that's what I'm getting at. Basically what I'm looking to change a boot sequence from kernel -> X -> Gnome/Plasma, to kernel -> X -> remote shell
[22:26] <meltingwax> he can probably just run bare startx and start up gnome-panel through ssh -X
[22:26] <bluesceada> remmina is a multi-purpose client (plugin based) for all things like vnc, NX ..
[22:26] <capable> Mdgd`: okay, that's simple
[22:26] <bluesceada> NX can also do per-application
[22:26] <capable> Mdgd`: my favorite way to do that is to use openbox instead of a DE, and just have its autostart script call rdp/etc.
[22:26] <meltingwax> ^
[22:27] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: what do you exactly mean with remote shell, why do you need X then?
[22:27] <Mdgd`> meltingwax, I'm trying to standardize it in an office. All environments running on an ESX machine, or similar if I wind up needing something else.
[22:27] <capable> you _can_ actually run X without a wm, but it's not worth it =P
[22:27] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Hint: start ytping the nick - to address one of us - and tab completes // can you boot the liveDVD? , so we do have internet connectivity .. the command will complete just fine in the live environment.
[22:27] <Mdgd`> I don't want to involve a local shell and ideally I want to cut out any user level interaction with the HDD completely.
[22:28] <capable> Mdgd`: you can feven use an ordinary DM (m, not e) setup to choose between GNOME/KDE, or "openbox" (which uses the fullscreen remoting app)
[22:28] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: you want it kind of protected against any local accesses?
[22:28] <capable> can even*
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[22:28] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, it's for a network in a non-permissive environment. The server has low level encryption on the drives containing the environments.
[22:28] <capable> Mdgd`: oh, you might be interested in LTSP, then
[22:28] <capable> kind of depends on what you're after
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[22:29] <capable> ah not LTSP, then, probably
[22:29] <bluesceada> non-permissive means?
[22:29] <Mdgd`> Potentially hostile.
[22:29] <bluesceada> ok
[22:29] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  the lpatop Im working WILL NOT connect to the net.....I installedd Ubuntu but grub failed and did not install and some hardware did not install
[22:30] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: probably needs it's own concept if it is really security relevant
[22:30] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, so the server boots with authorization and maintains all data in an encrypted fashion. I want the users to connect to it for their shell to ensure any files or whathaveyou are stored safely.
[22:31] <capable> Mdgd`: that could be a job for LTSP
[22:31] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: ok but in the end you will also need to secure the clients, which will be quite tough
[22:31] <ohallot> Hi, Good night.
[22:31] <capable> ohallot: hi
[22:31] <bluesceada> otherwise a privileged user might login over a mailicous client ...
[22:32] <ohallot> can someone tell me how to fix a broken apt database? I have a borked package that impeach me of using any dpkg or apt command.
[22:32] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, I figure if I can connect them using an encrypted SSH session I'm in the ballpark. And the privileged thing is why I don't want local shells.
[22:32] <capable> ohallot: in English, 'good night' is for parting =) 'good evening' can be for either
[22:32] <capable> no particular reason why
[22:32] <bluesceada> you need both hardware and software secured clients
[22:32] <Mdgd`> They log in, supply their account password and log into the remote desktop. If things go sideways we take down the server and everything becomes inaccessible.
[22:33] <bluesceada> like, not complete physical access to the client
[22:33] <capable> Mdgd`: how might they go sideways?
[22:33] <Mdgd`> capable, generally put, raids.
[22:34] <capable> interesting
[22:34] <capable> Mdgd`: so do you even want computers there, or just monitors and peripherals?
[22:34] <Mdgd`> You're thinking networked KVM?
[22:34] <Mdgd`> It's a good idea..
[22:34] <capable> Mdgd`: I just wanted to know what you were after
[22:34] <capable> Mdgd`: definitely look at LTSP, it's what you want
[22:34] <ohallot> is there a tool to fix the apt package database?
[22:34] <bluesceada> I also still dont understand 100% the requirements...
[22:34] <Mdgd`> Right. Ideally no local harddrives other than for a bolted down terminal OS if necessary.
[22:35] <capable> bluesceada: yeah =P
[22:35] <capable> Mdgd`: don't need one
[22:35] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: If you do not use my full nick, any reply may get lost in all this // type 'bas' and hit the tab key to complete the nick - it will be highlighted in my IRC client // as to your disk problem .. let's look and see what the partitioning is -> fdisk <- tells us this // now IF that hard drive is hammered up, and GParted will not cope with it .. there does exist other tools ( very much time !) we can try // 1st show us what you are wo
[22:35] <capable> might be lost in that ^ spam
[22:35] <Mdgd`> Thanks for the leads though. I'll look into LTSP and openbox.
[22:35] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: network boot?
[22:36] <capable> Mdgd`: terminals, they're all of a computer but the computer, which is elsewhere
[22:36] <capable> they used to be more popular, when computers took up whole rooms
[22:36] <Mdgd`> Sounds like what I'm looking for bluesceada
[22:36] <capable> now they're popular just for efficiency's sake
[22:36] <capable> centralization, etc.
[22:36] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  please be patiant. I cant type fast
[22:37] <capable> Chromebooks are almost terminals, they have very little local OS or data storage
[22:37] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: this just depends if the network hardware is capable, but I think most modern network hardware should be
[22:37] <whitby> Hey folks, quick question: do I need to run `apt-get update` manually, or will it be run next time I install something?
[22:37] <capable> almost 100% terminals, I should say
[22:37] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om,:  ok
[22:38] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, I've found the diskless Ubuntu doc. This is what I was looking for. I'll check it out and have a look at the other two subjects to see if it might be preferable.
[22:38] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: be sure to secure against possible hardware manipulation, putting a keylogger between keyboard and computer is very easy...
[22:38] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: I am in no hurry .. take as much time as needed .. BUT please if you want my attention, get it by using my nick ( Bashing-om) // OK you  got it ! thanks .. it helps heaps .
[22:38] <capable> well, you can't really secure against that =)
[22:38] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : the hd drives a small partition of 1.0 kb  it set as boot  and will not deleat
[22:38] <capable> all you can do is expect it
[22:39] <pdo_fn14> whitby: You need to updating apt after adding repo or updating your system.
[22:40] <whitby> Okay. So running `apt-get install xyz` after adding the repo won't see it until I run `apt-get update`
[22:40] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, that's another security matter though. For this specifically, I'm trying to account for an unstable environment with no real institutional protection against a group trying to just seize the hardware.
[22:40] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: I understand there is a problem with that partition // I ask again, boot the liveDVD that you used to install ubuntu -> try ubuntu mode -> will give us a working environment .
[22:40] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: I dont quite understand
[22:40] <capable> Bashing-om: I think '.' is the punctuation you're searching for
[22:41] <capable> Mdgd`: you mean data, right, not hardware
[22:41] <bluesceada> this is not just seizing hardware, they could keylog on a user with privileges and use that data
[22:41] <pdo_fn14> whitby: Exactly, "apt-get update" meaning your system's refreshing your repo db.
[22:41] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :  not sure I understand...
[22:41] <whitby> Awesome, thanks pdo_fn14!
[22:42] <capable> pdo_fn14: what a mouthful
[22:42] <Mdgd`> capable, the hardware and the data on it.
[22:43] <capable> Mdgd`: but why else care about the hardware if not for the data?
[22:43] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, yes they could. But I'm not talking about electronic but physical protection.
[22:43] <Mdgd`> capable, fair enough.
[22:43] <capable> doesn't matter, LTSP is still what you want
[22:43] <capable> you risk only monitors and keyboards/mice
[22:43] <capable> switches and things
[22:44] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: but you will need to physically protect it, or otherwise people can insert a keylogger between keyboard and the client hardware...
[22:44] <capable> I'm sure he's going to put a lock on the door
[22:44] <bluesceada> i really don't understand your requirements, your are not being exactly clear ....
[22:44] <capable> he's not, but keyloggers are irrelevant
[22:44] <bluesceada> why are they irrelevant?
[22:45] <capable> since they are a (largely unstoppable) concern for any system
[22:45] <capable> all you can do is compartmentalize the data
[22:45] <capable> on the server end
[22:45] <bluesceada> and then a non privileged user logins with privileges he got by keylogging ...
[22:45] <capable> that is, keyloggers are not a concern unique to terminal computer labs
[22:45] <Mdgd`> bluesceada, they're a separate issue. The case I'm talking about here is a group of gunmen entering the building.
[22:45] <capable> bluesceada: you can't get privileges you don't have by keylogging
[22:45] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : so I should boot  from livecd  but not sure what ubuntu mode is
[22:45] <bluesceada> yeah not unique to that of course
[22:46] <capable> a user without root access, for example, can never give away root access
[22:46] <bluesceada> Mdgd`: ok
[22:46] <capable> and that is not a terminal concern, it's just an ordinary OS concern
[22:46] <Mdgd`> Or more mildly "authorities" doing so without the usual legal protection you're accustomed to here.
[22:46] <bluesceada> capable: of course
[22:46] <capable> if the data is encrypted, and remote, and they can only exploit one or some finite number of users at a time, you should be fine
[22:47] <capable> in fact it wouldn't even have to be encrypted, but that'd make it even simper
[22:47] <capable> simpler
[22:47] <Mdgd`> Well the reasoning here is that if any such thing happens the server goes offline. Making coercion of the users kind of pointless.
[22:47] <bluesceada> yeah it all depends on your requirements..
[22:47] <capable> Mdgd`: such as what? =P
[22:47] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: IF you are working with GParted installed onto the hard disk you are working on ,, GParted will not function, as tht partition in all likely hood is mounted. You need to work with GParted from another source, as in the liveDVD -> try ubuntu .
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[22:48] <ohallot> Any specialist in apt- management? Help to repais a broken package database?
[22:49] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : live cd is in,  so i ma going to boot ,    correct?   -
[22:49] <bluesceada> ohallot: what is exactly broken
[22:49] <bluesceada> maybe apt-get -f install already helps?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Correct, and will get to the screen with 2 options 'try ubuntu' and 'install ubuntu'. Choose 'try ubuntu' .
[22:51] <ohallot> bluesceada: believe me , I googled a lot before joining this chanel. a borked pakage cannot be removed or reinstalled.
[22:51] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : hong on,  dropped mouse and battery came out  stand by
[22:51] <bluesceada> ohallot: paste the erroneous output on e.g. http://nopaste.info/ and show the link here, that might help
[22:52] <ohallot> bluesceada: thanks for your help.. but before, hoe can I make the output be in english in the shell? (so that you can understand)
[22:53] <bluesceada> what language is it
[22:53] <ohallot> pt-BR
[22:53] <bluesceada> umm ok...
[22:53] <bluesceada> try export LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
[22:53] <bluesceada> and export LANG="en_US"
[22:53] <bluesceada> (in the same shell before you run the apt commands)
[22:54] <bluesceada> and one more important thing: how did the problem start?
[22:56] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : ok ready
[22:57] <deitarion> What's the best way to install a specific set of packages from the Precise repos into Trusty? (Geeqie 1.1 removed a feature I used in Geeqie 1.0 and introduced a crash)
[22:58] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Great .. the key combination crl+alt+t will get a command line interface ( terminal ) .. now do you have internet ? in the terminal what results from the command -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- ?
[22:59] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : no the laptop i am try to fix does not have internet,  ubuntu 14 is not recognzing  some of the hardware
[22:59] <ohallot> bluesceada: http://nopaste.info/6dd1d90043.html
[23:00] <chmrr> TJ-: Sorry, was idling.  "Both" is unfortunately the answer.
[23:01] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: How old is this laptop ? Is the internet connection wireless or wired ? ( wired I can work on ) .
[23:01] <chmrr> TJ-: I guess to test, amd64 is easiest
[23:01] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : Dell inspiron 1721....   wifi will not turn on
[23:01] <TJ-> chmrr: OK, I've got an i386 build going right now
[23:02] <bluesceada> ohallot: ok and how did this happen originally ?
[23:02] <bluesceada> i mean, when did it screw up
[23:03] <chmrr> TJ-: OK -- let me see which of my i386 userspace VMs will make a good test victim
[23:03] <bluesceada> did you try to remove with apt-get remove ?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Yuk .. you do not have access to a wired connection ? // It is often the case that drivers for the WIFI are not available ( too many of them to put on the install disk).
[23:03] <ohallot> bluesceada: this morning I installed libreoffice 4.3 from ppa. But it is really not good so I uninstalled it. Then it borked.
[23:04] <bluesceada> ok..
[23:04] <bluesceada> uninstalled with apt-get ?
[23:05] <ohallot> bluesceada: I used apper.
[23:05] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :   complicated, but no........I just dont know why I cant format the whole hd.....
[23:05] <bluesceada> and you could also try dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libreoffice-base
[23:05] <ohallot> bluesceada: Already did.
[23:06] <bluesceada> hm :S
[23:06] <IdolNinja> Hi all! Anybody on Kali?
[23:06] <bluesceada> but it seems to be only the packages problem, wonder why that cant be get rid of
[23:06] <OerHeks> !kali | IdolNinja
[23:06] <ubottu> IdolNinja: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)
[23:07] <ohallot> bluesceada: as I said, I googled a lot, and I went ofte to man dpkg. I know this is a package DB in incosistent state. A rotten bit somewhere.
[23:07] <bluesceada> ohallot: try dpkg -r libreoffice-base and directly after apt-get -f install
[23:07] <bluesceada> no wait... hmm
[23:08] <bluesceada> this deb you have there is from the official repos?
[23:08] <R13ose> The appearance menu in system settings has disappeared, how do I bring this back?
[23:08] <ohallot> bluesceada: dpkg: error processing package libreoffice-base (--remove):
[23:08] <ohallot>  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should
[23:08] <ohallot>  reinstall it before attempting a removal
[23:08] <bluesceada> yeah i have seen, sorry
[23:08] <bluesceada> this deb you have there is from the official repos?
[23:09] <crazyhorse> what is compiz and why's it using up all of my cpu?
[23:09] <ohallot> bluesceada: ppa for LibreOffice 4.3
[23:09] <crazyhorse> sorry all 4 of my cpu's
[23:09] <TJ-> chmrr: I'm uploading to my PPA so the PPA-builders might be quicker :)
[23:09] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah, the Oracle VM can suffer as a i386 test machine.  Let me know when there's a finished build for me to test
[23:09] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Man this do make thing tough, as I can not know what you are doing. With out seeing that 'fdisk' output, it is diificult to make any advisements . The simpler thing to do at this point of a new install, is try it again- with ubuntu as the sole operating system installed -> in the install choose "erase disk and install ubuntu" .. the installer will do just that, erase the entire hard drive, and install ubuntu in a default configur
[23:09] <chmrr> Yeaaaah, probably. :)
[23:10] <bluesceada> ohallot: ah no, that one was a problem right? then try the official
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[23:10] <bluesceada> apt-get install libreoffice-base
[23:10] <TJ-> chmrr: see https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:10] <OerHeks> libreoffice ppa needs a lot of testing
[23:10] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : negative.......sorry,   goes through the install  and at the very end  error  "unable to install grub,  must do it manually"
[23:11] <ohallot> bluesceada: root@olivier-ntbk:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get install libreoffice-base
[23:11] <ohallot> Reading package lists... Done
[23:11] <ohallot> Building dependency tree
[23:11] <ohallot> Reading state information... Done
[23:11] <ohallot> E: The package libreoffice-base needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:12] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: IF the system is installed all but grub, it is possible to install grub manually from that liveDVD ..
[23:12] <bluesceada> ohallot: strange, is it named differently from official repos?
[23:12] <bluesceada> try apt-get update before if you didnt do recently
[23:13] <ohallot> bluesceada: I removed the ppa repo to get the official. But libreoffice-base is broken inside the database, that is my explanation why it prevents apt to work *on any command*
[23:13] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : here is what I have in terminal.......fdisk -l   (output )....device boot= /dev/sbd1...but then I do fdisk  /dev/sdb1 nad the output is   ---no such file or =directory
[23:14] <bluesceada> hmm, try apt-get remove --purge libreoffice-base
[23:14] <ohallot> bluesceada: Already did!
[23:14] <bluesceada> uh :S
[23:14] <bluesceada> what did it say
[23:14] <TJ-> chmrr: Have you considered a strategy to install the new libc?
[23:14] <ohallot> bluesceada: :-(  :-(
[23:14] <bluesceada> brute force...
[23:15] <bluesceada> backup first in case it gets worse:
[23:15] <bluesceada> so first .. make some temp directory somewhere and
[23:16] <bluesceada> mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libreoffice-base* /your-temp-directorys-path
[23:16] <bluesceada> mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libreoffice-base* /your-temp-directorys-path/
[23:17] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Let's try this approach to get grub installed, and see what happens. the command is "sudo fdisk -lu" and in that out put one of the partitions is marked under the boot heading with a '*' . tell me what partiton is this boot option set to.
[23:17] <chmrr> TJ-: I was just going to dpkg -i it.  That worked fine for both upgrading and downgrading from the broken version previously.
[23:17] <ohallot> bluesceada: ok. makes sense.
[23:17] <bluesceada> ok .. then try again dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libreoffice-base ...
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[23:18] <bluesceada> or apt-get --purge remove libreoffice-base  (or both ..)
[23:18] <TJ-> chmrr: OK, that's helpful ... I was thinking you may have to explode the package on another host and move the files into place in the VM's file-system whilst it was stopped
[23:18] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : unable to seeon  ( hd) :  invalid argument
[23:18] <groovestix> i'm working on a ubuntu based server distro (zentyal) and I'm getting some interesting fatal errors when I'm trying to install certain packgages. can anyone take a look? https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,22839.msg87942.html#msg87942
[23:18] <Guest27087> hey all... so I got this xbmcubuntu box with 12.10, Is it still possible to upgrade it?
[23:19] <ballison> i've upgraded from 8 to 10 to 12 to 14 in the last 24 hours
[23:19] <ballison> my desktop was working fine in 8, 10, and 12
[23:19] <capable> ballison: hey three out of four
[23:19] <pdo_fn14_> Guest27087: 12.10's discontinued.
[23:19] <chmrr> TJ-: Network _in_ tends to work fine.  As has wget and other things which happen to not use getservbyname.
[23:19] <bluesceada> (this might have some sideeffects to have some files of the package still somewhere on the system, but which will hopefully/mostly be overwritten later by the non-broken package)
[23:19] <capable> Guest27087: yeah, but it might be more work than "reinstalling"
[23:19] <ballison> now that i'm on 14 i try to login and i get a popup window saying ubuntu system program problem"
[23:19] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: IF fdisk can not see that hard drive, there is indeed a serious problem . What results from the command -> sudo parted -l < -?
[23:19] <ballison> and that's it.  i have a background and a pointer.
[23:19] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : be advise that particular partition is only 1.0 kb ( which I dont understand) but  I can not remove it
[23:20] <TJ-> chmrr: That's good to know :)
[23:20] <Guest27087> capable: I want to give it a try... restoring all the media and services would probably be more work anyway
[23:20] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : also it is set as BOOT
[23:20] <Guest27087> capable: how would I do it?
[23:20] <ballison> i tried moving my old home directory in case it was a dot-file issue and created a new home with nothing in it.  went back to X11, logged in and still - NOTHING.
[23:20] <chmrr> chmrr: And if it all falls apart, I can drop the VM, mount it from the dom0 host, and fix it from there.  But yeah, ssh'ing in and scp'ing file onto the host is fine.
[23:20] <capable> Guest27087: no idea, I don't use Ubuntu =) but you can do it
[23:20] <ballison> why did upgrading to 14 kill my desktop (window manager) ?
[23:20] <chmrr> s/chmrr/TJ-/
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[23:20] <capable> ballison: what happens?
[23:21] <Guest27087> capable: what makes you think that is possible?
[23:21] <ballison> capable: what i just said.
[23:21] <Guest27087> pdo_fn14_: so it is not possible?
[23:21] <capable> Guest27087: because an upgrade is just moving data around, it's always possible
[23:21] <ballison> capable: i upgraded from 8 to 10 to 12 to 14.
[23:21] <capable> ballison: no, what happens when you try to use your desktop
[23:21] <ballison> capable: my desktop worked fine in 8, 10 and 12
[23:21] <TJ-> chmrr: OK, keep an eye on the build progress of my PPA uploads then
[23:22] <ballison> capable: nothing happens.  i can move my mouse but i have no windows, no options, no menu bar.  it's like a desktop without a window manager running.
[23:22] <capable> ballison: background?
[23:22] <jak2000> TJ- i am on Network Manager GUI
[23:22] <chmrr> TJ-: Will do -- I'm likely to disappear for a bit in not too long, but I'll report back on the ticket as soon as I've had a chance to test
[23:22] <ballison> capable: yes i have a background image.
[23:22] <bluesceada> ohallot: progress?
[23:22] <jak2000> (i am returned of the metting)
[23:22] <capable> ballison: right-click?
[23:22] <TJ-> chmrr: I'll add the PPA details to the ticket, I've also reported it to ubuntu-security... I'll be off to bed shortly :)
[23:22] <ohallot> bluesceada: yes progressing...
[23:22] <ballison> and a pointer, but no windows no options.  when i click nothing happens.  no menu bar.
[23:23] <ballison> nothing.
[23:23] <ballison> nothing
[23:23] <capable> ballison: right click?
[23:23] <chmrr> TJ-: Great.  Thanks for your help!
[23:23] <bluesceada> ohallot: what exactly, sorry I will only be here some more minutes
[23:23] <ohallot> bluesceada: it tells me libreoffice-bas eis not installed anymore
[23:23] <Guest27087> a bit of googling took me to ubuntuforums... would this work with such a big leap? 12.10 to 14.4 ?
[23:23] <Guest27087> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327424&s=975429fb71adb203fc406cecb0e39309&p=8322305#post8322305
[23:23] <capable> ballison: see I can't tell if you're answering my question when you type a bunch of things I didn't ask about
[23:25] <ballison> capable: for the third time i'm answering your question with the same answer "nothing"
[23:25] <ballison> as in NOTHING HAPPENS
[23:25] <ballison> nothing happens when i click are the words i said
[23:25] <ohallot> bluesceada: You're the man, pal!. I got my apt-get commad back...
[23:25] <capable> ballison: right, as I said, I can't tell if you're answering my question when you type a bunch of things I didn't ask about
[23:25] <capable> but now you have =)
[23:25] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: At this point, I think, the better thing to try is to (RE-)install . The installer, with the option "erase disk and install ubuntu" should erase the disk including the problem partition.
[23:25] <capable> ballison: you might just try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[23:25] <ohallot> bluesceada: Big thank you, indeed
[23:25] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : sudo parted -l---command not found
[23:26] <ballison> capable: i tried that. nothing happens.  i ran apt-get install gnome-session and it said nothing to update
[23:26] <ballison> i'm trying gnome-session-flashback now
[23:26] <capable> ballison: you tried 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[23:26] <capable> again... when you type out a lot of answers to questions I didn't ask, it's hard to know what you have done
[23:27] <jak2000> Tj- ifconfig (list 3 adapters, eth0, wlan0 and le) network Manager list( Wireless, Wired and Network Proxy) eth0 not... any advice?
[23:27] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : thats the promblem   "erase whode disk"   is not working......windows xp was on this machine and the HD is partitioned 7 times
[23:27] <TJ-> ballison: Does it work correctly if you log-in as the Guest user?
[23:27] <bluesceada> ohallot: you're welcome .. but wait, before you continue, there might be now really orphaned files from the package
[23:27] <ohallot> bluesceada: and BTW I am one of the developers of LibreOffice, and founder of The Doucment Foundation. My laptop has thousands of development packages I was very sad to loos and rebuild the environment. Thnks indeed.
[23:27] <TJ-> jak2000: Network Manager won't (by default) manage an interface you've manually configured in 'interfaces'
[23:28] <bluesceada> IF this didnt just screw up because of the package, you might want to try install + uninstall again ... but at least install a newer version or something
[23:28] <ohallot> bluesceada: the orphaned files are gone
[23:28] <bluesceada> oh ok cool
[23:28] <jak2000> i am, configured in interfaces (/etc/network/interfaces file)
[23:28] <ballison> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop returns the same as apt-get install gnome-session.  "already the newest versino"
[23:28] <ballison> so why did upgrading to 14 break everything.
[23:28] <ballison> ?
[23:28] <bluesceada> ohallot: founder O.o
[23:28] <TJ-> jak2000: But as I said earlier, your problem was that the wlan0 connection has a different default gateway, which takes over when that interface comes up... you can change that in the Network Manager GUI connection editor, by choosing the connection's IPv4 tab, then in the "Method" drop-down menu select "DHCP (addresses only)"
[23:29] <ballison> TJ-: again, i moved my home directory to another name and created a new one and tried again and got the same problem.  no window manager.
[23:29] <ballison> i'll create a test user just to try
[23:29] <bluesceada> ohallot: if I have some questions with libreoffice next time I am using it, I will come back to you ;-)
[23:29] <capable> ballison: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <TJ-> ballison: There should be a Guest account, it's what we generally recommend testing these issues with to isolate per-user config issues
[23:29] <ohallot> bluesceada: please be my guest
[23:30] <ohallot> bluesceada: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/board/the-board-for-2012-2014/
[23:30] <ballison> TJ-:  I tried a second user account and the exact same problem
[23:31] <ohallot> bluesceada: I take that /var/lib/dpkg/info is where the package info is stored.
[23:31] <TJ-> ballison: any clues in "$HOME/.xsession-errors" ?
[23:31] <ballison> TJ-: i also tried a different session (gnome-flashback-compiz) and same thing... no window manager
[23:31] <capable> ohallot: holy redundant URI!
[23:31] <jak2000> Tj- turned off wireles network card, and now the result of sudo ip route ls is:
[23:31] <TJ-> ballison: also, look at the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/" and also "/var/log/syslog"
[23:31] <jak2000> 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.88
[23:32] <bluesceada> ohallot: don't ask me about details, with debian/ubuntu I am mostly a user
[23:32] <bluesceada> it is also the scripts for post install / post removal which did some troubles on your side
[23:32] <Guido1> hello, I want to buy a switch and a ethernet PCI card. is there a side where i can compare companyes? (Which company makes better switches etc.)
[23:32] <ballison> TJ:  in .xsession-errors there's a "unable to open file ' /usrshare/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmp' for reading .  1 error encountered, aborting."
[23:32] <ohallot> bluesceada: actually I came here because the debian guys refused to help when I said it was ubuntu.. go figure...
[23:32] <bluesceada> maybe removing those would also have been enough
[23:32] <TJ-> jak2000: That won't bring back the default route, you need to have it set correctly, and change the way the wlan0 interface deals with its DHCP lease options
[23:33] <TJ-> ballison: That looks useful :)
[23:33] <bluesceada> ohallot: oh lol, I am actually a "debian guy" ... I use debian on all my machines :D
[23:33] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Tell ya waht we can do .. is use the tool 'dd' (disk destroyer) to wipe that hard drive ... if 'dd' can not wipe that disk .. then indeed that disk is not worth hasseling with. // but take an hour per gig to wipe it out to start all over again.
[23:33] <bluesceada> but also used some ppas from ubuntu ...
[23:33] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :  that partition is "boot-hidden"
[23:33] <ballison> TJ: there is no /usr/share/apps/kxkb directory.  what installs that?   it didn't get install when upgrading from ubuntu 8
[23:33] <capable> Guido1: not really, ask #hardware
[23:33] <Bashing-om> wwaht/what*
[23:34] <TJ-> ballison: I think you have some legacy config pointing to that file, but it is no longer shipped in 14.04... the solution would be to find where the file is referenced, and remove that reference
[23:34] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : did you see my last comment?
[23:35] <ohallot> OK guys... have a good evening. And thank you for the support
[23:35] <TJ-> ballison: Try "sudo grep -rn kxkb /etc/*" in case there is a system setting somewhere
[23:36] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: I am thinking what "boot-hidden" could mean .. I have  never encountered it .. maybe some lind of Windows secure booting scheme ? .
[23:36] <Bashing-om> lind/kind*
[23:36] <ballison> this seems to be a major bug in ubuntu.  i'm not the only one hitting it.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xinit/+bug/300028
[23:36] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 300028 in xinit (Ubuntu) "[intrepid] Can only login using failsafe Gnome: "unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' for reading"" [Undecided,Expired]
[23:36] <bluesceada> ohallot: see you .. i will also sleep now ..
[23:37] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :  new on me it is only 1.0 kb....kinda small for boot isnt it?  I dont know how big a boot sector is
[23:37] <TJ-> ballison: Seems the file you want to remove is "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ubuntu-xmodmap" then
[23:37] <ballison> TJ: it's being called from /etx/X11/Xsession.d/80ubuntu-xmodmap
[23:38] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: A boot sector is just that. A sector size of 512 KB .
[23:38] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :  could it be a root kit?
[23:39] <ballison> TJ: moving it did nothing.
[23:39] <coolstar> is there a way I can change the shortcuts in the KDE menu?
[23:39] <ballison> TJ: still no window manager.  still no windows.  right and left click do nothing.  i have a background image and a mouse pointer and that's it.
[23:39] <coolstar> I want to insert "optirun " before the commands to open some games
[23:40] <Matt23456> trying to force 12.04 to use Yasm 1.20...no luck! Anyone offer some assistance?
[23:40] <TJ-> ballison: Have you looked at the other solutions further on, like removing the "$HOME/.xsession" and so on if it exists?
[23:41] <capable> coolstar: how do you execute these commands?
[23:41] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : the reason I ask that is  the reason I have the laptop.....the person I  got from said it would not come on........I got the laptop to turn on and now this
[23:41] <ballison> TJ:  the .xsession-errors says, "OpenConnection: connect:  No such file or directory.  Cannot connect to btrltty at :0"
[23:41] <capable> coolstar: ...yes?
[23:42] <TJ-> coolstar: You'd need to add a custom  .desktop file in "$HOME/.local/share/applications/" I'd think
[23:42] <Matt23456> trying to force 12.04 to use Yasm 1.20...no luck! Anyone offer some assistance?
[23:42] <TJ-> ballison: btrltty is the braille tty I think
[23:43] <Matt23456> I'm googling like a mad man, but it seems 12.04 wants to use the older version of Yasm even if I've installed the latest
[23:43] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  how do i change compiz so alt tab treats each window as a different application?  right now its doing this annoying behavior of combining windows of the same app.  ubuntu 14.04
[23:43] <ballison> TJ: then it says, "init: Unable to register as subreaper: Invalid argument"
[23:43] <TJ-> Matt23456: how are you trying to start it?
[23:43] <capable> arooni-mobile: run ccsm, it'll be in there somewhere
[23:43] <arooni-mobile> capable, i looked there first
[23:43] <arooni-mobile> i dont konw what option it is
[23:43] <ballison> TJ: then it says, "at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning" over and over.
[23:43] <capable> arooni-mobile: look more
[23:43] <Matt23456> TJ - I used the instructions here
[23:43] <capable> arooni-mobile: yes there are many options
[23:43] <Matt23456> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/CompilationGuide/Ubuntu
[23:44] <ballison> i'm just really surprised that upgrading to ubuntu 14 is so broken. i should have stopped at 12
[23:44] <Matt23456> TJ: so it downloads and installs the latest Yasm, but Ubuntu still goes back to the older version when I run a make
[23:45] <capable> ballison: well, should use a distro you can upgrade =)
[23:45] <TJ-> ballison: "at-spi2-registryd" is the Assistive Technologies helper
[23:46] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: I agree a 1.0 Kb partiton makes little sense // At this point I think again that the disk is better wiped with 'dd' and see what results.
[23:46] <TJ-> ballison: it sounds as if the system had assistive technologies enabled in 8.04, 10.04 and that settings for those haven't been properly updated/removed through all the release upgrades you've gone through
[23:47] <Matt23456> TJ: I may have misunderstood the question, what did you mean by "start" it?
[23:47] <ballison> TJ: gnome-session-is-accelerated: No composite extenstion.   gnome-session-check-accelerated: Helper exited with code 256    gnome-session: CRITICAL **:  We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...."
[23:48] <TJ-> Matt23456: when 2 exectuables share the same name, the first one to be found in a search of the $PATH environment variable is the one executed. "which yasm" will tell you which one that is.
[23:48] <ballison> TJ: Is there a way i can just reconfigured X11 all together?
[23:48] <Matt23456> TJ: Yes, the --version says it still sees the old one
[23:48] <capable> ballison: X is working fine, it's your DE that isn't
[23:48] <Matt23456> TJ: so i need to mod the env variable for Yasm?
[23:48] <capable> 's'why I suggested reinstalling it
[23:48] <ballison> capable: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1274013
[23:48] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1251281 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1274013 xrdp from gnome-session-fallback shows static gray screen via remmina or vinagre" [High,Triaged]
[23:48] <TJ-> ballison: That looks like it could be video driver config issue, is the hardware old? It seems to be saying that no compositing extension were loaded by the X server
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[23:49] <capable> ballison: you're remoting?
[23:49] <ballison> "+ gnome-session is broken without 3d acceleration, breaking gnome-"
[23:49] <capable> why do I even bother asking the questions... =P
[23:49] <TJ-> Matt23456: Not necessarily... I'm guessing you've got the package-installed version at "/usr/bin/yasm" and the self-compiled version at "/usr/local/bin/yasm" - is that correct?
[23:49] <ballison> here's my guess - X11 needs to be reconfigured for 3D since apparently according to these errors gnome-session does not work without 3d anymore.
[23:49] <Matt23456> TJ: I believe so
[23:50] <capable> ballison: something might need to be but it's not X
[23:50] <capable> if you see a screen and a movable mouse pointer, X is working
[23:50] <capable> that's all X does
[23:50] <TJ-> Matt23456: Does yasm have a "--version" option you can test each with, to confirm which is which?
[23:50] <ballison> TJ: Yes this is old hardware.  this box is about 6 years old.  Single core Intel system.  It was running Ubuntu 8 when i turned it on yesterday.
[23:50] <Matt23456> TJ: Yes yasm 1.1.0.2352
[23:51] <Matt23456> TJ: which yasm: /usr/bin/yasm
[23:51] <TJ-> Matt23456: the thing is, "/usr/local/bin/" appears first in the path so the newer version ought to be executed *but* if the older version has already run this session, then the shell will have cached the path in its has cache, so you need to clear that
[23:51] <ballison> TJ: I think the video driver needs to be reconfigured to support 3D... not sure how to do that.  X --config
[23:51] <Matt23456> TJ: how do I clear said cache?
[23:51] <capable> ballison: if all it has is intel onboard graphics, you might well be better off with xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop
[23:51] <TJ-> Matt23456: "hash -d yasm"
[23:52] <TJ-> ballison: If there is a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" I'd recommend renaming it to something like xorg.conf.old ... the X server now auto-configures itself
[23:52] <ballison> - acceleration
[23:52] <ballison> + gnome-flashback (metacity) fails to start without hardware acceleration,
[23:53] <capable> ballison: you could also try: sudo apt-get install openbox && DISPLAY=:0 openbox --replace
[23:53] <Matt23456> TJ: is there some way to test after that command? --version shows the same one
[23:53] <TJ-> Matt23456: "yasm --version" will report the one found first on the path
[23:53] <TJ-> Matt23456: whereas "/usr/bin/yasm --version" and "/usr/local/bin/yasm --version" will report from the exact installations
[23:54] <ballison> TJ: moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf fixed it.  that's it.  thank you
[23:54] <ballison> my feeling was correct X11 needed to be reconfigured.
[23:55] <ballison> now it's working and i have that hideous Ubuntu desktop.  :)
[23:55] <ballison> thanks.  i'll fix it from here.
[23:55] <TJ-> ballison: Phew!
[23:55] <Matt23456> TJ: I just tried to run the libx264 compile again and it's not seeing the 1.2 ver
[23:56] <TJ-> Matt23456: Are you running the compile in the same terminal you ran "hash -d yasm" in?
[23:56] <Matt23456> yes
[23:56] <Matt23456> TJ: yes
[23:57] <TJ-> Matt23456: also, if after you ran that command, the first command you ran called "/usr/bin/yasm" that will be cached again :D  ... so "hash -d yasm" then "/usr/local/bin/yasm --version" then try compiling  :)
[23:57] <Matt23456> TJ: PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin" ./configure --prefix="$HOME/ffmpeg_build" --bindir="$HOME/usr/local/bin/yasm" --enable-static --disable-opencl
[23:57] <littledude> Hi, I have a dhclient issue : /var/log/upstart/network-interface-eth0.log:28:can't create /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases: Read-only file system
[23:58] <TJ-> Matt23456: That "bindir" looks incorrect, I'd have expected it to be just "/usr/local/bin/"
[23:58] <littledude> I don't really know about the boot sequence, but is that possible that dhclient starts just too early ?
[23:58] <TJ-> littledude: "Read-only file system"
[23:58] <littledude> yeah
[23:58] <Matt23456> TJ: ok, changed the "yasm" and its still seeing the older one
[23:59] <littledude> but cat /proc/mounts shows that / is rw
[23:59] <Matt23456> TJ: Found yasm 1.1.0.2352
[23:59] <Matt23456> Minimum version is yasm-1.2.0
[23:59] <Matt23456> If you really want to compile without asm, configure with --disable-asm.
[23:59] <TJ-> Matt23456: Hmmm, something weird going on there
[23:59] <Matt23456> TJ: thats the error it keeps flagging
[23:59] <littledude> is it possible that dhclient starts whereas the fs is still read only ?