[00:24] <xubuntu754> during installing anything i keep getting the error: 'E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/', how should i fix this?
[00:27] <xubuntu801>  during installing anything i keep getting the error: 'E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/', how should i fix this?
[00:32] <David-A> xubuntu801: do you have another package manager running at the same time? e.g. another apt-get or synaptic?
[00:33] <xubuntu801> no i dont, but i tried installing dropbox and it got stuckk so i closed the terminal
[00:33] <xubuntu801> this was before the errors began to show up
[00:37] <David-A> xubuntu123: can you see in system monitor or with ps if the stuck apt-get is still running? otherwise try re-boot?
[00:37] <David-A> xubuntu801: for you, not for xubuntu123  ^
[00:38] <David-A> xubuntu801: and I mean "if so" not "otherwise"
[00:38] <xubuntu801> no it isn't running after i closed the terminal
[00:40] <David-A> xubuntu801: I suppose you did prepend "sudo"
[00:41] <xubuntu801> yes, i did
[04:38] <zacwalls> i activated root on my shell. how do i deactivate it?
[04:45] <xubuntu688> Does anyone know what login manager Xubuntu 14.04 uses ?
[04:45] <xubuntu688> It says I have to be using lightdm, and says it's not configured
[04:46] <xubuntu688> anyone ?
[04:46] <xubuntu688> need help
[04:46] <zacwalls> sorry
[04:46] <zacwalls> u sol
[04:47] <xubuntu688> Why am I sol ?
[04:47] <zacwalls> did u lose your password?
[04:47] <xubuntu688> I'm getting an error, and I need to have lightdm set up
[04:47] <xubuntu688> I don't know how to configure lightdm
[04:48] <zacwalls> search google
[05:45] <edthix>  hi, how do I do modprobe -r during boot?
[05:45] <edthix> /etc/modules?
[06:54] <acerimmer> #join #ubuntu-server
[07:31] <HiMaX> Hello ubuntu, how to save the session of all folders that were open from the last session ?
[07:31] <acerimmer> HiMaX, is this on ubuntu or xubuntu?
[07:32] <HiMaX> xubuntu or xfce
[07:32] <HiMaX> i dont like opening alot of the same folders again
[07:33] <acerimmer> HiMaX, yeah, it appears the "save session" option is no more in 14.04 ...
[07:34] <HiMaX> why :(
[07:34] <acerimmer> HiMaX, THERE it is!  settings > system > session and startup.  do a save session of what you want to default launch each time.  I think that'll capture open folders as well
[07:35] <gabkdlly> For me, there is a "save sesssion for future logins" option when clicking the logout button, but I have never tried it, so I don't know if it fulfills your needs, but I wanted to say because I am running 14.04
[07:36] <HiMaX> ok it works thanks
[07:36] <acerimmer> !cookie | gabkdlly even better than my answer!
[07:40] <gabkdlly> I am glad that I could help you :)
[11:14] <wulong710>  hello. My laptop wireless disconnect network frequently after working for a few hours. I can't connect internet except reboot computer.  Wireless card AR9287 , laptop: acer-4750g. Error log is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237796&p=13090333#post13090333
[13:38] <someone235> hey, whenever I try to use update-manager it writes "Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection.", although my Internet is well connected. How can I fix this?
[13:39] <deshipu> I just updated chromium from the trusty repo, and now when I start it it
[13:39] <deshipu> s it's huge, like 4x bigger than it should be
[13:39] <deshipu> in terms of what's displayed on the screen
[13:40] <deshipu> any ideas how to make it normal?
[13:40] <deshipu> someone235: try a different mirror in the package sources?
[13:44] <someone235> deshipu, It doesn't help
[13:46] <deshipu> then get a *working* internet connection
[13:47] <someone235> But my internet connection works for everything else
[13:50] <gabkdlly> someone235: What version of Xubuntu are you using ?
[13:51] <someone235> gabkdlly, 14.04
[13:58] <someone235> After restart. Still got the problem
[14:00] <GridCube> someone235, go to the settings manager and find the "software and updates" settings, there from the "download from" box go to "Other..." and clic on "select the best server"
[14:00] <GridCube> that will search the best mirror available for your network and update your apt list
[14:10] <someone235> GridCube, this is what it gives me: "The information about available software is out-of-date
[14:10] <someone235> To install software and updates from newly added or changed sources, you have to reload the information about available software.
[14:10] <someone235> You need a working internet connection to continue."
[14:11] <GridCube> someone235, are you able to connect to the internet from that computer at all?
[14:11] <someone235> GridCube, yes. For everything except this.
[14:12] <GridCube> someone235, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[14:13] <someone235> GridCube, this is the end of the output: http://pastie.org/private/asanlixbpnk1o8mq3ubd5g
[14:14] <GridCube> those are some ppa's that are out of service
[14:15] <GridCube> if the rest of the things updated then the update manager should work properly
[14:15] <GridCube> you can disable the useless ppas from the "software and updates" settings second or third tab
[14:16] <GridCube> you can force the update from a terminal typing "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[14:57] <nlsthzn> how can arrange the indicator icons in xubu 14.04? Something similar to http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/06/re-arrange-appindicators-in-ubuntu.html but for xfce?
[15:25] <brainwash> nlsthzn: you can right click on the indicator area to open the settings dialog for the indicator panel plugin
[15:25] <brainwash> and then arrange the indicators
[15:26] <nlsthzn> brainwash, I want to arrange the Application Indicators...
[15:28] <GridCube> nlsthzn, brainwash explained you how to
[15:28] <brainwash> nah, he wants to arrange the application indicator entries
[15:28] <GridCube> oh
[15:29] <GridCube> right
[15:29] <GridCube> nvm then
[15:29] <brainwash> like steam or nm-applet
[15:29] <brainwash> yeah, not sure if this is possible
[15:31] <brainwash> nlsthzn: maybe you could test the linked method
[15:32] <nlsthzn> I can find the file but I can't get the names of the applications as they show in the link... all I really want to do is get dropbox from stopping to mingle with the other icons... it is monochrome like the theme and the other apps are colourful >.<
[15:32] <nlsthzn> it seems it is currently sorting alphabetically
[15:32] <brainwash> wait, so you only want to change the icon appearance?
[15:33] <nlsthzn> it is fine if it stays monochrome as many of the other apps also are monochrome
[15:33] <brainwash> sadly no clue then
[15:33] <nlsthzn> it is just the fact that it is one monochrome icon in between the ones which aren;t
[15:33] <brainwash> it's "unity" magic after all
[15:34] <nlsthzn> oh well... just got a prettier steam icon so I guess I couldn't change dropbox's too :p
[15:34]  * nlsthzn goes to eat dinner 
[15:34] <brainwash> :)
[15:38] <nlsthzn> just hiding the dropbox indicator also works :p
[16:37] <xubuntu661> hello
[16:38] <xubuntu661> anyone there?
[16:39] <Hedgework> We're not all there, so we must be here ;)
[16:39] <PhoenixSTF> there is relative to where you are
[16:39] <Hedgework> True.
[16:40] <xubuntu661> hello... i just install xubuntu 13.04 .. i know that is discontinuated... but is the best version that works for me.. but when i want to update the repositorys... dosnt work... is another option or repository??
[16:40] <PhoenixSTF> :)
[16:41] <PhoenixSTF> 13.04 I think has like just a bit over one year support
[16:41] <PhoenixSTF> you really should not be using it.
[16:42] <Hedgework> Currently supported are 12.04 and 14.04.  14.04 remains supported until April 2015 and is what I recommend you upgrade to.
[16:42] <xubuntu661> deam!!!
[16:42] <xubuntu661> but...
[16:42] <Hedgework> err, sorry... 14.04 is supported to April 2017
[16:42] <xubuntu661> i can still using it
[16:43] <xubuntu661> right'?
[16:43] <Hedgework> I have a broken finger...typing is hard :P
[16:43] <PhoenixSTF> darn...
[16:43] <PhoenixSTF> xubuntu661: you can but you wont have security updates
[16:43] <PhoenixSTF> or any bugfixes
[16:43] <PhoenixSTF> btw 13.04 is not so diferent from 14.04
[16:44] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: nobody will stop you from using 13.04, but it's a really really bad idea.  13.04 being unsupported means that you will have no updates to protect you against even the most widely known and exploited security problems...let alone regular bug fixes and suck
[16:44] <Hedgework> *such
[16:44] <xubuntu661> ok...i dont want security updates.. only want the basic stuff.. firefox and movie players and audio
[16:44] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: Really? You WANT your computer to die from being exploited by script kiddies?
[16:44] <Hedgework> I don't know anyone who hosts repos for outmoded releases.
[16:44] <xangua> you don't want security updates...
[16:45] <PhoenixSTF> Hedgework: I think he does
[16:45] <xubuntu661> no man!! you dont understand!! see... this laptops is from my mom.. and she onlye want to see movies and music.. just that... only
[16:45] <PhoenixSTF> is she connected to the internet?
[16:46] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: and how's she going to feel when she starts seeing bestiality and child porn everywhere?
[16:46] <xubuntu661> no!!   only now that i want to install the codecs and apps
[16:46] <xangua> you want your mother to use an unsecure operating system?
[16:46] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: Security updates are not a luxury; they are a necessity.
[16:46] <PhoenixSTF> what laptop are you talking about anyway?
[16:47] <xubuntu661> okok... you dont understand... this laptop only is connected right now... and never again.. only for music and movies!! no internet!!
[16:47] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: Please just install 14.04 for her.  You won't have these problems with a supported version.  Packages will be easy to get, and security updates can happen in the normal way.
[16:47] <xubuntu661> a fukkkiin atom 1 ghz!! is a peace of shit!! hahahah!! only for music and movies
[16:48] <xangua> !language | xubuntu661
[16:48] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: my kid's netbook is weaker than that, and it runs 14.04 IIRC
[16:48] <PhoenixSTF> xubuntu661: then get XMBC
[16:48] <PhoenixSTF> if you want a media center you got distros specificly for that purpose
[16:49] <xubuntu661> ok.. i dont have time... only need the repos for install the movie players and codecs.. thats all!!
[16:49] <xubuntu661> where are the repos?
[16:49] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: I don't think there are any any more.
[16:49] <Hedgework> xubuntu661: that's part of what "unsupported" means
[16:50] <Hedgework> "Stop trying to teach me gun safety! It's not needed for shooting my mother in the foot."
[16:50]  * Hedgework facepalms
[16:50] <PhoenixSTF> he was quite stuborn
[16:50] <Hedgework> yep
[16:50] <PhoenixSTF> he should get a Raspberry PI with openelec
[16:51] <PhoenixSTF> anyway how do you guys feel about xchat being droped from the next release
[16:52] <Azelphur> xchat is being dropped? o.O
[16:52] <xangua> xchat is still developed¿
[16:54] <Azelphur> wait, are they just removing it as a default, or are they removing it from the repositories?
[16:54] <PhoenixSTF> AFAIK xchat stoped like in 2011, then somebody launch a project called hexchat.
[16:54] <PhoenixSTF> just by default
[16:54] <baizon> hexchat <3
[16:54] <Azelphur> oh, xchat shouldn't be a default anyway, that is fine, and pidgin is an acceptable substitute.
[16:54] <PhoenixSTF> it will still be on repos for more power users
[16:54] <PhoenixSTF> well i am trying  to use pidgin right know and I do not see many dificulties
[16:55] <PhoenixSTF> its not xchat but it will get the job done
[16:55] <Azelphur> PhoenixSTF: pidgin has a lot of problems with the IRC protocol
[16:55] <Azelphur> admittedly it's functional, but there are lots of problems.
[16:55] <Mustang_> Hey guys, is it possible to use Linux Libre on Xubuntu?
[16:55] <PhoenixSTF> Azelphur: you are probably right, but most users that use xubuntu dont even run xchat
[16:55] <Mustang_> That's my only problem with it really, I do not want the proprietary blobs in the kernel.
[16:56] <xangua> Mustang_: it would be easier to use one of the FSF recomended distros
[16:56] <baizon> Mustang_: use debian?
[16:56] <Azelphur> PhoenixSTF: exactly, that's why it shouldn't be a default, the subset of people who use both IRC and require a full-featured IRC client is very small.
[16:56] <Hedgework> hexchat > xchat > pidgin (WRT IRC)
[16:56] <baizon> Hedgework: +1
[16:56] <Hedgework> But, power users don't xchat...power users irssi or weechat.
[16:57] <Azelphur> Hedgework: I consider myself a power user, I pidgin.
[16:57] <Hedgework> Azelphur: Weird.
[16:57] <Mustang_> I understand all of that but the point is I can't find a Desktop Environment I like on other distro's, I love the Desktop Environments on Xubuntu and Elementary OS though.
[16:57] <Mustang_> Currently using Gentoo but again, I'm not very satisfied with the Desktop Environments.
[16:57] <Hedgework> Azelphur: power Linux user or power IRC user, though?  That's maybe a relevant disctinction here.
[16:57] <Azelphur> Hedgework: both. I've implemented the IRC protocol in numerous languages, written bots, and I've been a Linux user for a decade.
[16:58] <Azelphur> I'm about as power user as you're gonna find.
[16:58] <Azelphur> especially when it comes to IRC.
[16:58] <Hedgework> Mustang_: Are you married to WIMP (Window, Icon, Mouse/Pointer) interfaces, or have you considered tiling WMs?  What do you like in a DE/WM?
[16:58] <PhoenixSTF> Azelphur: I agree with you, by default is a waste a bandwidth on the ISO
[16:59] <Hedgework> Azelphur: Interesting.  In that case you're an outlier.  Most of the IRCd, services daemon, etc. devs I know are married to weechat or irssi.
[16:59] <PhoenixSTF> Azelphur: there are probably more important things to pack
[16:59] <Azelphur> PhoenixSTF: indeed :)
[16:59] <Mustang_> I've tried tiling window manager but they're too much to keep up wth, anything other than a terminal and some other applications look horrible on it.
[16:59] <Azelphur> Hedgework: yea I'm far from the norm, I use pidgin because I want the multi network capabilities. I use a bouncer too, if I need advanced IRC features I have to fire up xchat.
[17:00] <Azelphur> or rather, multi protocol :)
[17:00] <Hedgework> Azelphur: that makes sense, disturbingly enough, especially since the bouncer gives you the option to seamlessly switch to a more fleshed-out client as needed.
[17:01] <Azelphur> indeed
[17:02] <Hedgework> Mustang_: I'm both a Funtoo (Gentoo derivative) and Xubuntu user, so I can probably offer some good WM comparisons if that's what you are most interested in.  However, if your goal is to run without any closed-source code, I'm not sure that's going to be practical on any major binary distro.  Most of those choices have been made for you in such cases.
[17:03] <Azelphur> Hedgework: wat? most WMs are open source, it's easy to run without proprietary now days o.O
[17:05] <Mustang_> Hedgework: Alright, which WM do you use?
[17:05] <Hedgework> Azelphur: no shit...he was talking about drivers though...unless he's not running a wifi card (at least in the US, where open sourcing firmware blobs is illegal or at least grey) he's SOL on a binary distro, and possibly SOL running source based.
[17:06] <Hedgework> Mustang_: i3wm, but it's tiling, which you said you don't like.
[17:06] <Azelphur> Hedgework: I was talking on the OS level, rather than the firmware level
[17:06] <Mustang_> I like tiling window managers, but things like Firefox look horrible in it.
[17:07] <Hedgework> Azelphur: ahh, sorry, in that case what are you on about?  I'm so confused.
[17:07] <Hedgework> :P
[17:07]  * Hedgework may need more coffee
[17:07] <Azelphur> Hedgework: you said running without any closed-source code isn't going to be practical on any major distro
[17:07] <Hedgework> Mustang_: Meh, my firefox looks about the same as it does in Xfce4.
[17:07] <Azelphur> and I'm sitting here thinking...wat xD
[17:08] <Mustang_> Can you screenshot what yours looks like please?
[17:08] <Hedgework> Azelphur: Ahh...yeah, I was thinking of it being illegal to distribute open-source firmware blobs for some hardware in binary form.
[17:08] <Hedgework> (at least in the US)
[17:08] <Azelphur> ah, righto :)
[17:08] <Hedgework> You have to build from source or accept closed-source ones.
[17:09] <Mustang_> I have a Gluglug X60 shipped from the UK with free wifi firmware lol.
[17:09] <Hedgework> sure, Mustang_ ... one sec I forgot to install scrot on this box
[17:10] <Mustang_> Thanks man.
[17:10] <PhoenixSTF> Hedgework: well us patents are creppy, I am afraid to even go and work there.
[17:13] <Hedgework> http://picpaste.com/M8XV4Ga1.png <--Mustang
[17:14] <PhoenixSTF> you need more monitors
[17:14] <Mustang_> Alright that's pretty great looking lmao.
[17:15] <knome> Hedgework, PhoenixSTF, Mustang_: #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[17:16] <Mustang_> Sorry lol.
[17:20]  * Hedgework is unsure how WM options in Xubuntu is offtopic.
[17:26] <xubuntu488> Hey guys if there anyone willing to help me with a resolution problem i got ??? i have an nvidia gtx 660 and my newly installed xubuntu 14.04 can seem to recognize my 1920x1080 resolution , it only allows me to go until 1152x864. If anyone can help me plzz i would really apreciate. thanks in advace for your time :)
[17:37] <holstein> xubuntu488: i usually try arandr and custom xorg.conf ..are you trying all available drivers?
[17:40] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: holstein means xrandr
[17:41] <holstein> !info arandr
[17:41] <baizon> Hedgework: no, he means arandr
[17:41] <holstein> Hedgework: holstein meant arandr
[17:41] <holstein> its just a GUI.. easy to try some options..
[17:41] <Hedgework> ahh gotcha.  I didn't know that existed.
[17:42]  * Hedgework isn't much of a gui person.
[17:42] <holstein> Hedgework: i just find it handy for troubleshooting.
[17:42] <Hedgework> cool
[17:44] <xubuntu488> i havent tried all the available drivers tbh but will do
[17:44] <xubuntu488> so far no matter what i try it simply dosent work.
[17:44] <holstein> xubuntu488: nvidia may provide a driver that gives you the functionality you seek
[17:44] <holstein> !nvidia
[17:45] <holstein> i usually start with the open ones.. then, i try the proprietary one in the repos.. then, move on to ppa's or nvidia site ones.. or whatever else i find
[17:46] <xubuntu488> also i connect it with a DVI thats not a prolem right ??
[17:46] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: shouldn't be
[17:47] <holstein> xubuntu488: you are obviously having a problem.. i would try and remove variables.. try VGA.. try anything, really. you are not guaranteed support for linux from the creator of the hardware, so you have to do the troubleshooting yourself
[17:49] <xubuntu488> the thing is that my graphics card dosent have a vga port it only have dvi etc
[17:50] <holstein> xubuntu488: sure.. so try what you have.. when you bought the hardware, you were likely promised windows support.. a team of professionals were paid to make sure windows works flawlessly with driver support.. you are basically taking that task on for yourself with linux
[17:51] <holstein> i usually (with nvidia hardware) install a "burner" installation, where i try *all* drivers.. its challenging, since you cant try the proprietary drivers easily from a live CD.. i'll try whatever steam suggests.. whatever ppa's they suggest for driver support in ubuntu
[17:52]  * Hedgework notes that this is why she has an ATI card
[17:52] <holstein> this is why i have intel.. or, something from a linux reseller that is specifically supporting linux
[17:52] <xubuntu488> tbh i really thought that nvidia has better support for linux than ATI's but also yes my card is a beast on windows
[17:53] <holstein> its challenging, for sure.. or can be.. nothing about linux, ubuntu or xubuntu is preventing anyone from supporting it.. its all open.. but that doesnt make it any easier when you are trying to do linux on hardware that hasnt provided linux support
[17:54] <xubuntu488> and then only reason i still got windows on my pc is cause i really love in my spare time to play Dota 2 and now that its possible to play dota 2 with linux flawlessly i want to go for linux all the way
[17:54] <xubuntu488> but cant atm cause of that thingy
[17:54] <holstein> xubuntu488: try doing exactly what you did in windows.. you bought hardware that supports windows.. try something like system76 and *all* will work as supported
[17:55] <holstein> or.. you try options yourself.. try and find someone in a forum with the exact hardware you have..
[17:55] <xubuntu488> i tried all the greek forums to find someone willing to help me even with skype etc but i cant find one :(
[17:56] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: My ATI card, apart from having 2x the RAM, is the same one my partner uses for dota and such.  It works flawlessly in Win and Linux.
[17:56] <xubuntu488> i'm new to linux so not very keen with all
[17:56] <holstein> sure.. but ultimately, its up to nvidia, or the device manufacturer to support you.. they are free and able to provide linux support
[17:57] <holstein> if they dont officially, then you are taking the burden on yourself, and it may or may not have "good" results..
[17:57] <yolateng0> bonjour, juste un mot pour dire MERCI à la communauté xfce et ubuntu pour cette derniere distrib. j ai installer la derniere version (précédente 13.04) ...alors MERCI TY
[17:57] <holstein> !fr
[17:57] <holstein> !13.04
[17:57] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: We shopped VERY carefully.  NVIDIA has become much less Linux-friendly than they used to be, while ATI has really been pushing for the Linux market.  There's very robust support for Linux on most of ATI's higher end stuff now.
[17:58] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: That said, you MAY have some luck with the NVIDIA card but it'll probably involve time/energy spent troubleshooting and experimenting.  I'd be of more help when not at work, but I'm only checking irc intermittently right now
[17:59] <holstein> if you want linux support, consider system76 or a linux reseller that specificially promises linux support "out of the box"
[17:59] <holstein> for your current issue, there are quite a few drivers to try.. i would also try..
[17:59] <holstein> !steam
[18:00] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: I assume this is a box you put together, not a prebuilt?
[18:00] <holstein> since they require 3d driver support, the information should be helpful, if any is available for your hardware.. otherwise.. open driver, repo driver, ppa driver, site driver..
[18:01] <Hedgework> brb, need more tea
[18:09] <yolateng0>  /whois ubottu
[18:11]  * Hedgework returns
[18:12] <yolateng0> ubottu > sorry ;) I understand. nevertheless I thank the community for allowing this distrib 14.04
[18:27] <xubuntu488> sry for the delay but yes its a box and i recently updated my graphic card so i can play top games etc
[18:30] <Hedgework> xubuntu488: At least that means that, unlike on a laptop or something where you're afraid to void the warranty, you have the option to change vid cards if you can't find a solution.  holstein's points about trying drivers from different sources and/or seeing what Steam recommends are sound.  Failing that, consider selling your card for $$$ toward a new one.
[18:56] <ssarah> hei guys
[18:56] <ssarah> on my taskbar the unity thingie is always crashing
[18:56] <ssarah> but i dont want it. i'm just missing the thing that allows me to disable and enable networks
[18:58] <Hedgework> "unity thingie" ?
[18:58] <Hedgework> ssarah: the bit in the task bar (unless you've changed it) on xubuntu is nm-applet, you can run it manually.
[18:59] <ssarah> ok, so xfce calls it a panel and it's the "indicator plugin".
[18:59] <ssarah> Couldn't connect to accessibility bus
[19:00] <Hedgework> if you are losing your panel (or just the indicator plugin) that should get some troubleshooting, but in the mean time nm-applet is what you need to start for access to network control from the panel.
[19:00] <ssarah> yeh, i just ran it, Hedgework, sir. that was the error i got
[19:00] <Hedgework> hrm.
[19:00] <ssarah> (both as sudo and user)
[19:01] <Hedgework> shouldn't be sudo'ed, and please never run random commands as sudo, it can break your system
[19:01] <Hedgework> If you aren't 100% sure what something does, NEVER run it as sudo/root
[19:01] <krytarik> ssarah: You can either remove the package "indicator-appmenu" completely, or try to disable it in the Indicator Plugin settings.
[19:01] <ssarah> meh. im devops, i gotsa break stuff.
[19:02]  * Hedgework facepalms
[19:02] <Hedgework> I shouldn't complain...attitudes like that are why I have such a great career ahead of me ;)
[19:03] <ssarah> indicator-appmenu <- this is the unity thingie? i can remove it yeh, but then i cant manage my networks. krytarik
[19:03] <Hedgework> ssarah: indicator-appmenu is not a dependency of nm-applet
[19:04] <krytarik> ssarah: Nope, it's just for the Global Menu.
[19:04] <Hedgework> ssarah: I don't use indicator-appmenu (I'm in i3wm rather than xfce4), and I use nm-applet just fine.
[19:06] <ssarah> hmm, but that error im getting when trying to launch nm-applet; related to that?
[19:06] <Hedgework> it's unlikely to be related to indicator-appmenu except that it might also be why indicator-appmenu crashes
[19:07] <ssarah> true true, i think i remember trying to turn on the accessibility features. they were pretty bugged, as i recall
[19:08] <ssarah> so... it's starting to smell like a format
[19:08] <ssarah> -_-
[19:08] <Hedgework> I have no idea, the last time I experimented with them was 2007 or so.
[19:12] <Hedgework> What accessibility features do you need/want?
[19:17] <ssarah> oh, that's side tracking. But if you must know, the current contrast theme on xubuntu is kinda bad on the eyes. I was looking for another, to see if it was good.
[19:17] <ssarah> i opted to use dynamic contrast on my monitor. it makes everything look like a cartoon
[19:19] <Hedgework> Ahh, I was just wondering if it was something that could be achieved in another way, but I'm not familiar enough with that one to make recommendations.
[19:33] <ssarah> ah no, no worries
[19:33] <ssarah> about your earlier comment, on my risqué attitude
[19:33] <ssarah> i just try to make it fun, remember: misery loves company
[19:33] <ssarah> or just use vim -__-
[19:35] <Hedgework> lol
[20:19] <vagelis> hey guys its me as
[20:20] <vagelis> hey guys its me again with the nvidia gtx 660 problem i tried so many things that i cause my system to crash on boot now i'm re installing it :(
[20:24] <holstein> vagelis: thats why i said, i have a "burner" installation
[20:24] <holstein> vagelis: literally an install that i can try all the drivers and PPAs in, til i find what works, or that nothing works
[20:24] <holstein> vagelis: be sure you let nvidia know you would like support for linux for your device
[20:25] <ali1234> i must be the only person to never have graphics driver problems
[20:25] <ali1234> i just install nvidia driver through the additional drivers tool and it works. no problems in like 6 years
[20:27] <holstein> some hardware works easily for me with the open driver.. with no additional drivers even needed.. some, just dont support linux well
[20:27] <ali1234> i never use nouveau. it crashes constantly
[20:27] <vagelis> i'm new m8 on the linux so i think it will be hard for me to check it through burner , or at least i think it will
[20:28] <holstein> vagelis: what i mean by "burner" is, one that you can do what you are doing with.. break it, and reinstall
[20:28] <ali1234> whenever i reinstall, on first boot i have about 15 minutes to install the nvidia driver before nouveau crashes
[20:29] <holstein> vagelis: try *all* options.. the open driver, the one in the repos. the ppa that steam suggest, and whatever nvidia has on their site.. what have you tried? are you having any serious issues? or just not able to get the resolution you prefer? have you tried other displays? have you tried a custom xorg.conf?
[20:29] <ali1234> only do that on a "burner" though ^
[20:30] <ali1234> in general you should never be installing drivers downloaded from the manufacturer website on linux
[20:30] <ali1234> always prefer softwae from the repos... it's tested...
[20:30] <holstein> sure.. but, its not necessarily tested with that particular hardware profile
[20:30] <vagelis> i tried to add mode at xrandr
[20:30] <ali1234> true, but gtx 660 should be fairly well tested
[20:31] <holstein> vagelis: arandr is a GUI for that that i suggested.. did you try it? what do you mean you "tried to add a mode".. what happened? what errors?
[20:31] <vagelis> i tried to create the mode line i want i tried to take the mode line from my windows 7 set up
[20:31] <holstein> vagelis: and?
[20:31] <vagelis> arandr i havent tried it
[20:32] <holstein> vagelis: what failed? how? what line? where did you do what? and how?
[20:33] <vagelis> i tried to addmode to xrandr but it didnt existed so i created but when i did and then tried to add it it says error bad math or something
[20:34] <holstein> vagelis: so, its just the resolution issue you have, then?
[20:34] <holstein> vagelis: you tried arandr?
[20:34] <vagelis> yes it only allows me to go until 1024xsomething
[20:34] <ali1234> just use the nvidia control panel
[20:34] <vagelis> no i havent
[20:35] <vagelis> i tried nvidia control panel still nothing
[20:35] <ali1234> what monitor do you have?
[20:35] <vagelis> LG 24''
[20:35] <ali1234> do you have a KVM?
[20:35] <holstein> vagelis: i suggested arandr, the open driver, the proprietary driver, the ppa for steam, and the driver from the site over an hour ago.. what of that have you gotten around to?
[20:35] <vagelis> its not the monitor cause i havent this issue before i changed the graphic card
[20:36] <ali1234> which monitor connection did you use?
[20:36] <vagelis> dvi
[20:36] <vagelis> kvm i dont have it or even know what it is tbh
[20:36] <ali1234> a switch to use two computers on one monitor
[20:37] <ali1234> or any other kind of weird cabling
[20:37] <ali1234> you're reinstalling right?
[20:37] <vagelis> i am currently checking one by one the drivers from Software & Updates --> Additional Drivers
[20:38] <vagelis> yep i'm done reinstalling it
[20:38] <ali1234> try nvidia-331 first
[20:38] <ali1234> after installing it reboot
[20:39] <vagelis> do i need a reboot ?
[20:39] <ali1234> make sure it actually does install (you have to close all other packages like update manager etc)
[20:39] <vagelis> i didnt knew that tbh
[20:39] <ali1234> well you can avoid the reboot but let's not get into that
[20:39] <ali1234> rebooting is the easiest way to switch to it
[20:39] <vagelis> kk i will reboot it when its done installing it
[20:40] <holstein> !nvidia
[20:40] <vagelis> and holsein i havent tried anything from what you said cause i was trying to boot but was getting a crash all the time
[20:42] <holstein> vagelis: cool.. just try the steps, and ask questions with details..
[20:42] <Isvara> Hi. I just tried to install Xubuntu 14.04 for the first time. I'm installing from a USB stick. I get the Grub menu, and I chose the install option from there, and it got past the splash screen, but it just keeps getting stuck after that. A black screen with just a mouse cursor.
[20:43] <holstein> !nomodeset
[20:43] <holstein> Isvara: thats what i would try first ^
[20:43] <Isvara> holstein: Alright, I'll give that a go now.
[20:48] <Isvara> holstein: Cool, thanks, that seems to have done the trick.
[21:03] <vagelis> guys i went to nvidia website and download the driver how can i install it now cause i tried double clicking and its not working
[21:04] <vagelis> nvidia-linux-x86_64-340.24.run the name of the file
[21:06] <ali1234> don't do that until you've tested the repo driver fully
[21:06] <vagelis> i did that's my last step
[21:07] <ali1234> so you installed nvidia-331 and rebooted?
[21:07] <vagelis> yep
[21:07] <ali1234> what does nvidia control panel say?
[21:07] <vagelis> and it only raised it to 1152x864
[21:10] <ali1234> so in nvidia control panel what does it say about your monitor?
[21:10] <vagelis> sec to change the driver again cause the last driver i tested was the open source one
[21:10] <vagelis> shall i reboot also even though i did it before and i know it wont work ?
[21:10] <ali1234> yes
[21:10] <vagelis> kk sec plz
[21:13] <vagelis> where do i find the nvidia control panel ?
[21:13] <ali1234> in the main settings thing
[21:13] <vagelis> its not here
[21:13] <vagelis> found it
[21:13] <ali1234> "nvidia x server settings"
[21:14] <vagelis> and i go to nvidia setting configuration ?
[21:14] <ali1234> no
[21:14] <ali1234> go to GPU 0
[21:15] <vagelis> i only get 2 optioons either Application Profiles or nvidia-settings Configuration
[21:15] <ali1234> then you have not installed nvidia driver correctly or it isn't working at all
[21:16] <vagelis> maybe i need to press the save current configuration first
[21:16] <ali1234> no
[21:16] <vagelis> can i install them somehow cause at the additional drivers they say its ok
[21:17] <ali1234> this is a desktop PC with dicrete graphics card right
[21:17] <ali1234> ?
[21:17] <vagelis> yes an nvidia gtx 660
[21:19] <ali1234> additional drivers says "1 prorietary driver in use"?
[21:20] <vagelis> true
[21:20] <ali1234> you should see something like this: http://imgur.com/270XS4Q
[21:20] <ali1234> but for some reason it has not detected your card at all
[21:21] <vagelis> not even close mine
[21:21] <ali1234> please install pastebinit and then run pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:21] <ali1234> and then give me the link
[21:24] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955469/
[21:25] <Bagelis> i'm the same guy but this is from the pc with the problem
[21:25] <ali1234> [    13.632] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[21:25] <ali1234> this is bad
[21:25] <vagelis> nooooo
[21:26] <ali1234> you are using nouveau
[21:26] <ali1234> nouveau is kind of sucky
[21:26] <ali1234> as you have probably noticed
[21:26] <Bagelis> so what can i do ???
[21:26] <ali1234> well we need to figure out why you don't have the module
[21:27] <ali1234> what is the output from "uname -a"
[21:27] <ali1234> should be one line
[21:27] <Bagelis> you lost me m8
[21:28] <ali1234> one thing you need to understand as a new linux user... it's not like windows... reinstalling things never works, it always ends up the same
[21:28] <ali1234> so we're going to have to debug the problem
[21:28] <ali1234> just run uname -a on a terminal and paste the output
[21:28] <Bagelis> Linux bagelis-P55M-UD2 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:29] <ali1234> cd /lib/modules/3.13.0-32-generic/updates/dkms/ && ls
[21:29] <ali1234> what does that output?
[21:30] <Bagelis> bbswitch.ko  nvidia_331.ko
[21:30] <ali1234> ok, good, the driver is a least installed
[21:30] <Bagelis> ouf :)
[21:30] <ali1234> lsmod | grep nvidia
[21:30] <ali1234> you should see nvidia and drm
[21:31] <Bagelis> i dont see anything
[21:31] <Bagelis> but i close the terminal and again nothing
[21:31] <ali1234> okay so the module didn't load for some reason
[21:31] <ali1234> dmesg | pastebinit
[21:32] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955517/
[21:32] <ali1234> okay, check line 972
[21:33] <Bagelis> yes /
[21:33] <Bagelis> ?*
[21:34] <ali1234> nouveau isn't blacklisted
[21:35] <Bagelis> so if we blacklist nouveau the nvidia module will work ?
[21:35] <ali1234> yes
[21:35] <ali1234> but... i have to wonder why it isn't blacklisted
[21:35] <ali1234> pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[21:35] <Bagelis> maybe i didnt something wrong ??
[21:35] <Bagelis> Unable to read from: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[21:36] <ali1234> apt-cache policy nvidia-331 | pastebinit
[21:37] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955545/
[21:40] <ali1234> does /lib/nvidia-331-updates/modprobe.conf exist?
[21:40] <ali1234> sorry /lib/nvidia-331/modprobe.conf
[21:40] <Bagelis> bash: /lib/nvidia-331/modprobe.conf: Permission denied
[21:40] <ali1234> it does exist though
[21:41] <Bagelis> thats good i suppose
[21:41] <ali1234> hang on i need to check some docs...
[21:41] <ali1234> i know how to fix this, need to find the right command
[21:42] <Bagelis> ok m8 and i really apreciate everything you do :)
[21:50] <ali1234> hmmmm...
[21:53] <ali1234> okay while i try to find the right way of doing this please try this:
[21:53] <Bagelis> i'm on my knees right now praying for you to be able to fix this
[21:53] <ali1234> sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-331
[21:54] <ali1234> when it is finished, try to pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf again
[21:54] <Bagelis> ok
[21:54] <ali1234> no need to reboot
[21:54] <ali1234> but, if that file appears, then try rebooting and it should work
[21:55] <Bagelis> Unable to read from: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[21:55] <ali1234> hmm
[21:55] <ali1234> can you check the additional drivers tab again, and make sure you've really got the nvidia-331 selected?
[21:57] <byte> n8
[21:58] <Bagelis> i got 2 versions of nvidia 331 the ( proprietary , testes ) and the 331-updates (proprietary)
[21:58] <Bagelis> i have selected the tested one
[21:58] <ali1234> okay but was it selected when you opened the window?
[21:58] <Bagelis> yes
[21:58] <ali1234> hat's really odd
[21:59] <ali1234> you have both nouveau and nvidia installed, which is completely normal
[21:59] <ali1234> when you select nvidia, it is supposed to create the file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf which tells your computer not to use nouveau
[21:59] <ali1234> but for somereason you don't have that file
[22:00] <Bagelis> i dont have that file or i cant gain access to that file ?
[22:00] <ali1234> ls /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[22:00] <Bagelis> ls: cannot access /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf: No such file or directory
[22:00] <Bagelis> ok i dont have it
[22:01] <ali1234> yeah... it's normally a symlink to that other file i asked about
[22:01] <ali1234> the additional drivers window just makes that symlink
[22:01] <Bagelis> so is there a way to make it work ??
[22:02] <ali1234> okay, in the additional drivers, select nouveau and apply changes, then select nvidia-331 and apply changes. no need to reboot
[22:02] <ali1234> make sure you don't have synaptic or software ceter or update manager open though
[22:03] <Bagelis> i only have the softwre and updates open for the additional drivers the terminal and the chat
[22:03] <ali1234> okay, that's fine
[22:03] <ali1234> sometmes the update manager window pops under other windows
[22:05] <Bagelis> dont it
[22:05] <Bagelis> done* it
[22:05] <ali1234> okay, do you have the /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf now?
[22:06] <Bagelis> no
[22:09] <ali1234> what about /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_nvidia_modconf
[22:09] <Bagelis> no
[22:15] <ali1234> ah here we go, getting somewhere...
[22:15] <Bagelis> nice
[22:16] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --display x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | pastebinit
[22:16] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955809/
[22:19] <ali1234> hmm it's on manual mode
[22:20] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --auto x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[22:20] <Bagelis> update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/nvidia-331/ld.so.conf to provide /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf (x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf) in auto mode
[22:20] <ali1234> okay
[22:22] <ali1234> do you have the /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf now?
[22:22] <Bagelis> yes'
[22:22] <ali1234> awesome
[22:22] <ali1234> try rebooting
[22:22] <ali1234> then load up nvidia control panel again
[22:23] <vagelis> doing it right now
[22:23] <vagelis> sec
[22:25] <Bagelis> still the same at nvidia xserver settings
[22:25] <ali1234> dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:26] <ali1234> again please
[22:26] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955886/           ,          http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955887/
[22:27] <ali1234> argh it's just gone back to the old config
[22:27] <ali1234> is /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf still there?
[22:28] <Bagelis> nope
[22:31] <ali1234> pastebinit /var/log/gpu-manager.log
[22:31] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7955923/
[22:32] <ali1234> Current alternative: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf
[22:32] <Bagelis> it says nvidia isnt loaded or is it just me
[22:32] <ali1234> yep that's what it says
[22:32] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[22:33] <Bagelis> it gets me to choose for auto mode manual mode etc
[22:33] <ali1234> hit ctrl-c
[22:33] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | pastebinit
[22:33] <Bagelis>   Selection    Path                                       Priority   Status
[22:33] <Bagelis> ------------------------------------------------------------
[22:33] <Bagelis>   0            /usr/lib/nvidia-331/ld.so.conf              8604      auto mode
[22:33] <Bagelis>   1            /usr/lib/nvidia-331-prime/ld.so.conf        8603      manual mode
[22:33] <Bagelis>   2            /usr/lib/nvidia-331/ld.so.conf              8604      manual mode
[22:33] <Bagelis> * 3            /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf   500       manual mode
[22:33] <Bagelis> Press enter to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:
[22:34] <ali1234> or that
[22:34] <Bagelis> thats what i get
[22:34] <ali1234> okay, choose 0
[22:34] <knome> !pastebin | Bagelis
[22:34] <Bagelis> i think i did it
[22:35] <ali1234> run it again and make sure the * is next to the first line
[22:35] <Bagelis> its in the zero thingy
[22:36] <ali1234> okay... try rebooting then i guess
[22:36] <Bagelis> doing it sec
[22:38] <Bagelis> back
[22:38] <ali1234> does it work yet?
[22:38] <Bagelis> no
[22:39] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf again... did it go back to 3?
[22:39] <Bagelis> yes
[22:39] <ali1234> okay, try picking 2 this time
[22:39] <Bagelis> its on manual mode you know that right ?
[22:39] <ali1234> yes
[22:40] <Bagelis> done
[22:40] <Bagelis> reboot ?
[22:42] <ali1234> ah hang on
[22:42] <Bagelis> k
[22:42] <ali1234> we need to update-initramfs because this is changing kernel modules... doh
[22:42] <ali1234> right, set it back to 0
[22:43] <Bagelis> done
[22:43] <ali1234> then run sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[22:43] <ali1234> it will take a while
[22:44] <Bagelis> done ?
[22:44] <Bagelis> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
[22:44] <ali1234> okay, now try rebooting again and hopefully it will stcik this time
[22:44] <vagelis> i'm crossing my fingers :P
[22:46] <ali1234> any change?
[22:46] <Bagelis> back
[22:46] <Bagelis> nope
[22:46] <ali1234> and it went back to 3??
[22:47] <ali1234> did you install from nvidias website on this system?
[22:47] <Bagelis> can you give me again the commad to see
[22:48] <Bagelis> no from additional drivers
[22:48] <ali1234> sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[22:48] <Bagelis> yep 3 again
[22:48] <ali1234> ah hang on
[22:50] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/481007/every-reboot-alternatives-for-x86-64-linux-gnu-gl-conf-and-i386-linux-gnu-gl-con
[22:50] <ali1234> well you're not alone at least
[22:50] <Bagelis> i feel better
[22:51] <Bagelis> cause i thought all the strange things happen to me only :P
[22:51] <ali1234> well that's the thing about linux... it very rarely randomly breaks, so usually someone else had the same problem
[22:51] <ali1234> this post suggests to purge nvidia*
[22:52] <ali1234> so... sudo apt-get purge "nvidia*"
[22:52] <ali1234> then reboot
[22:52] <ali1234> then select it from the additional drivers again
[22:53] <Bagelis> kk rebooting now
[22:54] <vagelis> tbh i always though that linux dosent need reboots , i guess i was wrong
[22:54] <ali1234> it doesn't, but it's easier to just reboot to be sure
[22:55] <ali1234> you could just drop to a shell and unload modules and restart lightdm
[22:55] <vagelis> its applying changes atm
[22:57] <Bagelis> m8 nothing changed
[22:58] <ali1234> you rebooted after installing the driver again?
[22:59] <vagelis> doing it now
[23:01] <Bagelis> ok
[23:01] <Bagelis> now i see a change to the nvidia x server setings
[23:01] <ali1234> okay...
[23:01] <Bagelis> now its like your image you send me earlier
[23:02] <ali1234> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log again please
[23:02] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7956152/
[23:03] <ali1234> (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 660 (GK106) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
[23:03] <ali1234> this is good
[23:03] <Bagelis> :D
[23:03] <ali1234> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI
[23:03] <ali1234> this is now the problem
[23:04] <ali1234> note that your monitor is connected to CRT-0
[23:04] <Bagelis> whats the crt 0 ??
[23:04] <ali1234> it means VGA
[23:04] <ali1234> rather than a digital connection
[23:05] <Bagelis> my monitor has vga but my graphics card does not so i use a vga to dvi converter
[23:05] <ali1234> okay, is the monitor VGA only?
[23:05] <Bagelis> yes
[23:05] <Bagelis> it dosent have anything else on it
[23:05] <Bagelis> unfortunatly
[23:05] <ali1234> okay... and on your old video card... it had a VGA port?
[23:05] <Bagelis> yes
[23:06] <ali1234> so you didn't need the adapter?
[23:06] <Bagelis> yes
[23:06] <ali1234> right... so... that's your problem
[23:06] <ali1234> the adapter is not passing through the EDID information
[23:06] <ali1234> which means the graphics card does not know what modes your monitor supports
[23:07] <Bagelis> so if i change the adapter i will be ok or i need a new screen with hdmi or dvi like my graphic card ?
[23:07] <ali1234> you should be able to just switch the adapter
[23:07] <ali1234> i'm using one on my second monitor and it passes the EDID
[23:07] <Bagelis> kk i will get one tommorow cause i dont have atm
[23:07] <ali1234> you can also fix this another way
[23:08] <Bagelis> so you are using the same connection like i do and it ok ?
[23:08] <ali1234> by telling the driver what modes the monitor supports
[23:08] <ali1234> yes i am using a VGA monitor on a DVI port
[23:08] <Bagelis> can we do that ?
[23:08] <ali1234> and it picks up the modes
[23:08] <ali1234> it's also possible your monitor just doesn't send the EDID correctly... some don't
[23:08] <ali1234> so a new adapter may not help
[23:09] <Bagelis> is it easy to tell the card what mode my monitor supports or its better to change the adapter ?
[23:09] <ali1234> it's easy to just tell it what modes to use
[23:09] <Bagelis> can we try it ?
[23:09] <ali1234> sure
[23:09] <Bagelis> so what do we do ?
[23:10] <ali1234> load up the nvidia control panel first
[23:10] <Bagelis> k
[23:10] <Bagelis> done now ?
[23:10] <ali1234> go to X Server Display Configuration
[23:10] <Bagelis> yes
[23:10] <ali1234> don't change anything. click on "Save to X Configuration file"
[23:11] <Bagelis> done
[23:12] <ali1234> did you save it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:12] <Bagelis> no i didnt changed anything
[23:12] <ali1234> okay, well, save it
[23:12] <Bagelis> shall i do it again and save it where you told me ?
[23:12] <ali1234> that is the default
[23:12] <Bagelis> oo k
[23:13] <ali1234> right, pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:13] <Bagelis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7956228/
[23:13] <ali1234> okay, now i need to know your exact monitor model number
[23:13] <ali1234> you see line 36 and 37? we need to enter the correct nmbers there
[23:14] <ali1234> we need to look them up in the monitor manual
[23:14] <Bagelis> LG flatron w2243s
[23:14] <Bagelis> thats on the screen
[23:16] <ali1234> okay found it
[23:17] <Bagelis> nice
[23:18] <ali1234> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:18] <Bagelis> done
[23:18] <ali1234> find     HorizSync       28.0 - 55.0
[23:18] <Bagelis> done
[23:19] <ali1234> delete "28.0 - 55.0" and put 83
[23:19] <Bagelis> done
[23:20] <ali1234> then on the next line delete "43.0 - 72.0" and put 75
[23:20] <Bagelis> done
[23:20] <ali1234> now press ctrl-o, enter, ctrl-x
[23:20] <Bagelis> done
[23:21] <ali1234> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~
[23:21] <ali1234> (to make a backup)
[23:21] <Bagelis> done
[23:21] <ali1234> now reboot
[23:21] <vagelis> plzzz god have mercy :P
[23:23] <Bagelis> back
[23:23] <ali1234> now open nvidia control panel and try to change the resolution...
[23:24] <Bagelis> how do i change the resolution from nvidia control panel ?
[23:24] <ali1234> X Server Display COnfiguration
[23:25] <ali1234> Resolution: auto <- change it if you can
[23:25] <Bagelis> i can put up to 1680x1050
[23:25] <ali1234> heh... getting closer right?
[23:25] <Bagelis> yep :)
[23:25] <ali1234> maybe those mode numbers were not quite accurate... let me try to find the real PDF manual
[23:26] <ali1234> is this actually a TV by any chance?
[23:26] <Bagelis> dont remember tbh
[23:27] <ali1234> ah here we go
[23:28] <ali1234> HKR,"MODES\1920,1080",Mode1,,"30.0-83.0,56.0-75.0,+,+" from the windows inf
[23:28] <Bagelis> what ?
[23:28] <ali1234> so... sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf again
[23:28] <ali1234> where you put 83 put 30.0 - 83.0
[23:28] <ali1234> and where you put 75 put 56.0 - 75.0
[23:29] <ali1234> then find Option         "metamodes" "1152x864 +0+0"
[23:29] <ali1234> and change 1152x864 to 1920x1080
[23:30] <Bagelis> done
[23:31] <ali1234> save, backup, reboot
[23:31] <Bagelis> ctrl+o , enter , ctrl+x ?
[23:31] <ali1234> yes
[23:32] <Guido1> hello, I want to buy a switch and a ethernet PCI card. is there a side where i can compare companyes? (Which company makes better switches etc.)
[23:33] <Bagelis> back
[23:33] <Bagelis> now i get all the resolutions
[23:33] <Bagelis> like in windows
[23:33] <ali1234> so, fixed?
[23:33] <Bagelis> yes m8
[23:34] <Bagelis> i fucking love you right now
[23:34] <ali1234> so, select your resolution, save the xorg.conf like before, and then back it up...
[23:34] <ali1234> if you ever need to reinstall, just copy the backup into the right place
[23:34] <ali1234> also, sometimes after updates the xorg.conf may get reset
[23:35] <Bagelis> how do i backup it
[23:35] <Bagelis> i saved it
[23:35] <ali1234> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~
[23:35] <ali1234> that will copy it to your homedir
[23:35] <ali1234> sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf to restore the backup if it goes wonky
[23:36] <ali1234> if reinstalling you'll need to copy the file to a thumbdrive or something
[23:36] <ali1234> or just write down the changes
[23:37] <Bagelis> sec to write them down
[23:38] <ali1234> did you ever try linux on your old video card, and if so, did the monitor have the correct resolutions?
[23:39] <Bagelis> yes i did and i never had a problem like this
[23:39] <ali1234> okay, then it's almost certainly that adapter
[23:39] <ali1234> they must have cheaped out and not wired through all the pins
[23:40] <ali1234> that's the same problem that KVMs have, which is why i asked about that earlier
[23:40] <Bagelis> so this is permament right ?
[23:40] <ali1234> more or less
[23:40] <ali1234> you can always copy back the xorg.conf if it forgets the setting
[23:40] <Bagelis> i'm so happy right now
[23:40] <Bagelis> i wrote down the code to restore the back up if needed
[23:41] <Bagelis> if i change the adapter now
[23:41] <Bagelis> it wont lose settings or anything ?
[23:42] <ali1234> the dvi to vga adapter? no
[23:42] <ali1234> that's just a passive connector
[23:43] <ali1234> there is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1310489
[23:43] <ali1234> it only seems to happen after kernel updates though
[23:43] <Bagelis> if i change monitor then the graphic card will get the EDID info from the new cable right ?
[23:43] <ali1234> possibly not
[23:44] <ali1234> if you get a new monitor with hdmi or true dvi ports, you should delete the xorg.conf and start again
[23:44] <Bagelis> so its a known bug waiting for solution ?
[23:44] <ali1234> overwriting xorg.conf is "in progress" so yes
[23:44] <ali1234> that's nothing to do with your troubles though
[23:45] <ali1234> it's just something you might run into in the future
[23:45] <Bagelis> :(
[23:45] <ali1234> but if you do, just copy back the xorg.conf
[23:45] <ali1234> and then reboot
[23:45] <ali1234> you'll know if it happened because the login window will be low resolution again
[23:46] <Bagelis> i really love linux for many reasons m8 but 1 major one is cause of plp like you who help strangers etc
[23:46] <Bagelis> i cant thank you enough for the time you spent.
[23:47] <ali1234> when i started on linux 10 years ago people helped me, so now i help others :)
[23:47] <ali1234> also it's more like 18 years now... ouch
[23:47] <Bagelis> lol
[23:48] <Bagelis> the only reason i dont go for only linux pc is cause i really love playing Dota 2 with my best friends so .... but now i see that dota 2 can run in linux like in windows so i might rethink it
[23:49] <ali1234> yeah, was released on steam for linux about a month ago...
[23:50] <ali1234> it seems to run okay, but i don't know how to play it *shrug*
[23:51] <Bagelis> well when it was released it was buggy but now i tested it and it was really smooth like windows , okay it needs some things more to be better but i'm fine atm
[23:51] <ali1234> the native ports are usually pretty good
[23:51] <Bagelis> well generally games is keeping me to windows
[23:51] <ali1234> especially on nvidia, cos it's mostly the same code as the windows driver
[23:53] <Bagelis> well i dont have bad feelings for nvidia .. yet
[23:54] <Bagelis> they have great performance