| wwitzel3 | davecheney: this is for local | 00:36 |
|---|---|---|
| wwitzel3 | davecheney: they can connect as machine-0 using the password from .juju agents.conf, but nothing is working for admin. | 00:39 |
| wwitzel3 | davecheney: I will have them try that when they are back online tomorrow though .. using that admin-secret from local.jenv | 00:42 |
| wwitzel3 | thanks :) | 00:42 |
| davecheney | why is the local provider so weird ?!? | 00:47 |
| davecheney | it has too many edge cases | 00:47 |
| wwitzel3 | yeah | 01:29 |
| davecheney | no axw today ? | 03:19 |
| davecheney | I might have accidentally use the word "shittle" when doing my expenses | 05:04 |
| davecheney | oh well, i'm sure they know what I mean | 05:04 |
| === uru_ is now known as urulama | ||
| === menn0_ is now known as menn0 | ||
| dimitern | morning all | 05:58 |
| thumper | menn0: hey, you still around? | 06:12 |
| TheMue | morning | 06:58 |
| dimitern | hey TheMue | 06:59 |
| dimitern | jam, hey, are we about to start? | 07:00 |
| thumper | dimitern: very soon | 07:03 |
| dimitern | thumper, i've dialed into the conference from skype, as there's a toll free us number, and i'm also in the hangout for video | 07:05 |
| thumper | dimitern: niemeyer has just finished up with the docker demo | 07:06 |
| thumper | people are moving to rooms now | 07:06 |
| dimitern | right, cool | 07:06 |
| jam1 | hey dimitern | 07:57 |
| jam1 | so I like the idea of "juju deploy —net??? foo,bar,endpoint=baz" or something along those lines. | 07:57 |
| jam1 | Did we change anything for "netzone" vs "network" in the doc already? | 07:57 |
| jam1 | I didn't get a chance to read it today | 07:57 |
| jam1 | I also should be going to the review of openstack charm changes, but I tihnk James was in with mark so that one might be getting moved | 07:58 |
| dimitern | jam1, just a few sentences, as I'm not sure yet how netzones and subnets will be given at deployment time | 08:04 |
| mjs0 | thumper: I'm here now | 08:07 |
| === mjs0 is now known as menn0 | ||
| menn0 | thumper: I'll be aroudn for a while working on a presentation so ping me if you like | 08:15 |
| j-a-meinel | weird, it won't let me be "jam1" but it will let me be j-a-meinel. I wonder if my machine has been connecting + disconnecting too much and it started blocking me. | 09:16 |
| === jameinel is now known as jam | ||
| jam | hello | 09:20 |
| rogpeppe1 | jam: hiya :-) | 09:22 |
| jam | hey rogpeppe1, just trying to figure out what usernames I was able to connect as | 09:37 |
| rogpeppe1 | jam: i realised. just thought i'd reply anyway. | 09:37 |
| === psivaa is now known as psivaa-reboot | ||
| dimitern | voidspace, hey hey | 10:00 |
| dimitern | voidspace, any troubles with the networker bug so far? | 10:00 |
| perrito666 | morning | 10:20 |
| natefinch | mornig | 10:26 |
| natefinch | morning | 10:26 |
| mattyw | folks, I'm on call reviewer today so if there's anything you want me to take a look at give me a shout | 10:30 |
| voidspace | dimitern: hey, yes sorry | 10:38 |
| voidspace | dimitern: missed your message - but yes I have an issue | 10:38 |
| tasdomas | hi, | 10:38 |
| dimitern | voidspace, we can talk about it at the standup in 5m then :) | 10:39 |
| voidspace | dimitern: ok | 10:39 |
| voidspace | :-) | 10:39 |
| tasdomas | has anyone tried deploying services on ec2 with the current trunk of juju? Deploying mongo fails (it tries to connect to itself using a public address and fails to do that) | 10:39 |
| dimitern | voidspace, standup? | 10:47 |
| voidspace | dimitern: on my way | 10:47 |
| voidspace | dimitern: hmmm... trying again | 10:48 |
| voidspace | dimitern: TheMue: my internet is awful | 10:50 |
| voidspace | dimitern: TheMue: I may be in and out I'm afraid | 10:50 |
| voidspace | here for now though | 10:50 |
| TheMue | voidspace: ok | 10:50 |
| voidspace | dimitern: TheMue: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7960111/ | 11:02 |
| voidspace | dimitern: a.st.EnvironConfig() | 11:06 |
| voidspace | entity.Jobs() | 11:06 |
| voidspace | dimitern: "booting system without network configuration" | 11:07 |
| voidspace | dimitern: possibly my network is now screwed in my vm :-) | 11:07 |
| voidspace | dimitern: I did take a snapshot | 11:07 |
| dimitern | voidspace, a.CurrentConfig().Value(agent.ProviderType) can give you the provider type | 11:07 |
| voidspace | dimitern: with this change, straight away I get "agent-state: started" | 11:19 |
| voidspace | dimitern: which I didn't before | 11:19 |
| voidspace | unblocked! | 11:19 |
| voidspace | dimitern: TheMue: thanks guys | 11:19 |
| dimitern | voidspace, \o/ | 11:20 |
| voidspace | dimitern: need to confirm it works and that it fixes the bug | 11:20 |
| voidspace | but progress | 11:20 |
| dimitern | voidspace, :) yep, as usual | 11:38 |
| TheMue | voidspace: great | 11:39 |
| * dimitern needs to step out for ~45m | 11:41 | |
| perrito666 | sinzui: ping | 11:58 |
| sinzui | hi perrito666 | 11:58 |
| perrito666 | good morning sir | 11:58 |
| perrito666 | sinzui: I was toying with patches yesterday, trying to run ha test and fix the issue | 12:03 |
| perrito666 | I noticed two things: | 12:03 |
| perrito666 | one, I often get an error which looks a lot like a race condition where the test fails because it tries to do something while still upgrading | 12:04 |
| perrito666 | did this happen to you? | 12:04 |
| perrito666 | the other one is, while checking past runs on jenkins I noticed that there is a not very consistent set of blue and red dots, has this test ever been consistently passing? | 12:05 |
| sinzui | perrito666, yes, and yes | 12:05 |
| perrito666 | sinzui: sorry If I am not being very clear, I woke up a bit dizzy | 12:05 |
| sinzui | The test doesn't pass on first try every time, CI will accept a pass if it passes withing 3 tried | 12:06 |
| sinzui | perrito666, It usually fails because of the upgrade error, but you maye see cases in the ha-backup-restore tests where HA could not be achieved to start the backup :( | 12:07 |
| perrito666 | sinzui: I got those too | 12:07 |
| sinzui | perrito666, and if juju and clouds were less brittle, we would require the tests to pass in the first try | 12:07 |
| perrito666 | actually when running locally I get that error all the time :( | 12:07 |
| perrito666 | so, last test run actually passed, could we trigger a couple more just in case? | 12:17 |
| perrito666 | isnt there a way to determine if juju is upgrading so we can poll until its ready for ha? | 12:18 |
| mattyw | dimitern, ping? | 12:30 |
| mattyw | dimitern, cancel that | 12:31 |
| perrito666 | sinzui: ? | 12:31 |
| sinzui | perrito666, Yes, I can rerun the tests for the last build-revision id | 12:33 |
| sinzui | perrito666, the tests are scheduled to run in about an hour when the current build published | 12:34 |
| perrito666 | oh, ok | 12:34 |
| perrito666 | "Nokia N900 modem driver included in mainline " <- the kernel certainly is falling a bit behing on device support | 12:35 |
| sinzui | perrito666, oh, sorry, the publish job has already removed the last binaries. We need to wait | 12:35 |
| sinzui | perrito666, once CI goes idle, we can retest as oftena s we like | 12:35 |
| perrito666 | tx sinzui | 12:36 |
| katco | discovered https://github.com/rakyll/coop (Go concurrency examples) this morning. might be an interesting read. | 12:44 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: ping | 12:47 |
| tasdomas | voidspace, pong | 12:47 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: on July 24th you had an error with local provider | 12:48 |
| voidspace | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.13.0-32-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory | 12:48 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: did you discover what it was? | 12:48 |
| tasdomas | voidspace, no - I did not | 12:48 |
| voidspace | your mention of it in the juju-dev logs is the only reference to that particular error that google can fine | 12:48 |
| voidspace | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/07/24/%23juju-dev.txt | 12:48 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: hah, ok | 12:48 |
| tasdomas | voidspace, was busy and, tbh, forgot about it | 12:48 |
| voidspace | now google will have two mentions of it I guess | 12:48 |
| tasdomas | voidspace ;-] | 12:49 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: but it went away for you? | 12:49 |
| tasdomas | voidspace, haven't tried since then | 12:50 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: ah, ok | 12:50 |
| tasdomas | voidspace, I can take a look later today and ping you with the result | 12:50 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: that would be cool | 12:51 |
| voidspace | tasdomas: networking on my vm is a bit screwed up anyway, so it just be due to that | 12:51 |
| voidspace | I'm going to revert to a snapshot | 12:51 |
| voidspace | hmmm, no I took my snapshot too late | 12:59 |
| voidspace | network configuration is screwed there too | 12:59 |
| voidspace | time to do some digging | 12:59 |
| voidspace | helping the wife out, biab | 13:03 |
| jam | dimitern: we're doing the ipv6 in juju, maas, and openstack. Do you want us to call you on the phone, or just a google hangout? | 14:03 |
| rogpeppe1 | any chance that someone might be able to review this straightforward PR? https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/35 | 14:14 |
| rogpeppe1 | dimitern, mgz, voidspace, wwitzel3: ^ | 14:19 |
| ericsnow | natefinch: to make matters worse, the person that introduced the bug is out all week | 14:20 |
| natefinch | rogpeppe1: must be nice to work on a repo that isn't blocked by the bot ;) | 14:20 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: lol | 14:20 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: our bot is down though | 14:20 |
| dimitern | rogpeppe1, in a call, sorry | 14:20 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: and i also have a couple of branches blocked by the juju-core bot | 14:21 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: but yes, in theory :-) | 14:21 |
| rogpeppe1 | dimitern: np | 14:22 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: so, given that you're blocked on the bot, you obviously have a few moments to spend on that review :-) | 14:22 |
| natefinch | rogpeppe1: on the contrary, I'm trying to unblock the bot :) | 14:24 |
| rogpeppe1 | natefinch: fair enough | 14:24 |
| dimitern | jam, is the next call happening in the same room? | 14:28 |
| mgz | it's not the bot that's blocked... | 14:30 |
| mgz | it's that master doesn't pass our own validation | 14:30 |
| mgz | if you want to land things, you either say on the list that we need to land on a broken master, or we unregress | 14:31 |
| perrito666 | mm I am seeing this pop a lot 2014-08-05 13:59:02 ERROR juju.cmd supercommand.go:323 connection is shut down | 14:31 |
| mattyw | gsamfira, thanks for making the changes - Hi, I'm Matt by the way | 14:43 |
| gsamfira | Hi Matt :) | 14:44 |
| gsamfira | thanks for the review | 14:44 |
| gsamfira | much appreciated | 14:44 |
| jcw4 | rick_h__: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/468 is a WIP initial draft of the Actions API | 14:44 |
| jcw4 | rick_h__: if you get a chance can you let me know if this is close to what you were looking for last week? | 14:44 |
| jcw4 | rick_h__: s/Actions API/& documentation/ | 14:45 |
| bodie_ | if I can get a brief review on https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/448 it would be much appreciated, I can close the bug if I can land it | 15:43 |
| bodie_ | it's very simple | 15:43 |
| mgz | bodie_: is there a reason not to use SameContents checker? | 15:49 |
| mgz | rather than the obtainedIds expectedIds block | 15:50 |
| bodie_ | mgz, ignorance? :/ | 15:50 |
| bodie_ | didn't know I didn't have to roll my own | 15:50 |
| mgz | 's in github.com/juju/testings/checkers/checkers.go | 15:50 |
| mgz | -s | 15:51 |
| bodie_ | okay, great | 15:51 |
| bodie_ | mgz, I'm not sure that will work since SameContents does not regard duplicates as a problem | 15:59 |
| bodie_ | in this case, I'm counting appearances of each id | 15:59 |
| mgz | fair enough | 16:00 |
| === viperZ28__ is now known as viperZ28 | ||
| perrito666 | really amazon? io timeout? | 17:05 |
| wwitzel3 | that's how they do | 17:06 |
| jcw4 | perrito666: I'm wondering if it's because of the journaling changes possibly overloading mongo? | 17:07 |
| perrito666 | wwitzel3: ec2 is being especially mean with me | 17:07 |
| jcw4 | perrito666: strike that I was thinking of azure not amazon | 17:07 |
| wwitzel3 | trying to help hackedbellini get his up and running again and we are seeing this error .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7962740/ .. for some reason it cannot connect to the web socket api? (local provider) | 17:09 |
| hackedbellini | it's not the machine-0 problem anymore, this error is from the other machines (the lxc containers) | 17:11 |
| perrito666 | wwitzel3: perhaps api server is not up, check dmesg and logs for machine 0 you might get jujud-machine-0 respawning a lot trying to get up | 17:13 |
| natefinch | 29% done on memtest. so slow | 17:21 |
| natefinch | so far no errors | 17:21 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: welcome back | 17:23 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: 1st pass? | 17:23 |
| natefinch | yeah, doing both sticks at once to see if anything pops up. | 17:24 |
| natefinch | my tablet wasn't charged which is why I couldn't get on earlier... so I got the oil changed in my car while it was charging. | 17:25 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: that is slow | 17:25 |
| perrito666 | not you, I mean the memtest | 17:25 |
| natefinch | it only started a little while ago, I got your email while I was out. | 17:25 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: anyway, if your mem if factory dual channel, the stick not broken will break soon | 17:26 |
| * perrito666 tried to purchase 2x8sodimm today and the nearest one is 800km away and will be hard to get :p | 17:28 | |
| === psivaa is now known as psivaa-holiday | ||
| natefinch | 44% no errors... | 17:37 |
| natefinch | I think it takes longer because it only tests two gigs arts a time... so it has to do 8 passes total | 17:38 |
| perrito666 | you should have removed one of the banks, your result would be less certain but the test would take half the time | 17:42 |
| perrito666 | do we have concrete info on why our replica takes so much? | 17:53 |
| natefinch | takes so much.... what? | 17:55 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: sorry I typed half of what I was thinking | 17:55 |
| perrito666 | do we have concrete information on why each replicaSet takes so long to be ready? | 17:55 |
| natefinch | mongo.... other than that, no. | 17:57 |
| natefinch | we should really talk to the mongo guys about it | 17:57 |
| natefinch | 65% done. still no errors | 17:58 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: does you bug happen on heavy loads? | 17:59 |
| natefinch | only on boot, seems to be. | 18:08 |
| natefinch | after I reinstalled it was fine until I rebooted.... I had just installed some updates, but I don't know if that was the cause or not. | 18:09 |
| natefinch | 85% done | 18:09 |
| perrito666 | well if the ram is broken you should see fs corruption | 18:13 |
| perrito666 | if you dont see fs corruption you might be stumbling into some odd update breakage alghough I guess axw and ericsnow should have also | 18:14 |
| perrito666 | you might want to check the SMART data for you hd | 18:14 |
| perrito666 | or sdd | 18:14 |
| natefinch | smart was fine last time | 18:15 |
| natefinch | I have RAM errors in dmesg which is why I thought it was ram.... | 18:15 |
| natefinch | tests done. all tests pass | 18:16 |
| natefinch | well fuck | 18:16 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: what is a ram error in dmesg? I am curious | 18:17 |
| * perrito666 remembers natefinch recommending that laptop yesterday | 18:18 | |
| natefinch | hahahahahaha | 18:18 |
| natefinch | I'll get the message when it finishes booting | 18:18 |
| natefinch | under a section called total RAM covered: 16334 MB | 18:22 |
| natefinch | *BAD*gran_size: 64k chunk_size:32M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: -2M | 18:24 |
| natefinch | a bunch of those with different sizes, but the bad ones all have negative numbers at the end. ones that don't say bad all have 0 or a positive number | 18:26 |
| natefinch | no friggin' clue what it actually means besides "bad" and "RAM" | 18:27 |
| perrito666 | ahh I see | 18:29 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: http://velenux.wordpress.com/2014/01/ | 18:29 |
| perrito666 | linux | 18:29 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: you might find a better explanation at http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html | 18:29 |
| gsamfira | hmm.. if you are running memtest, you should run multiple passes. We used to do 20h memtest on production servers, just to make sure the memory was fine :). Sometimes we would see errors after a few passes | 18:30 |
| natefinch | perrito666: interesting | 18:36 |
| natefinch | I wonder if that is my problem | 18:37 |
| perrito666 | yet, that does not seem to be the cause of your other problem | 18:37 |
| perrito666 | although it might | 18:37 |
| perrito666 | try that and then see if the rest of the machine works properly | 18:37 |
| perrito666 | and in that case you might want to return the ram :p | 18:38 |
| natefinch | perrito666: now if I can figure out what exactly it is that site is trying to tell me to do | 18:41 |
| wwitzel3 | rogpeppe1: ping? | 18:43 |
| natefinch | it says to look at /proc/config.gz ... but that doesn't exist | 18:44 |
| natefinch | cat /process/mtrr says almost the whole 16 gigs is in reg00 .... that seems bad. | 18:47 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: you most likely need to compile a kernel with such option on | 18:47 |
| natefinch | OK, there is no way the answer to this problem is compile a friggin kernel | 18:48 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: try the one shorter | 18:48 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: dude this is linux, most problems, if poked enough will end up having recompile a kernel for an answer | 18:48 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/244473/how-and-why-should-i-specify-mtrr-gran-size-mtrr-chunk-size | 18:49 |
| perrito666 | that one seems to be more ubuntu oriented | 18:49 |
| perrito666 | the answer seems to be pretty explanatory | 18:50 |
| natefinch | OK, how do I add that to my grub config? | 18:50 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: /etc/default/grub | 18:51 |
| perrito666 | append to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT | 18:51 |
| natefinch | also, how do I know what to specify? no one seems to answer that part | 18:51 |
| perrito666 | "it appears that the error you see is reported when mtrr sanitizer is unable to choose from several options of memory layout. It should print a list of possible options next to the error message. To make the message to go away, you need to specify something lik" | 18:51 |
| perrito666 | pretty trivial problem.... | 18:52 |
| natefinch | not when there's 100 different choices and the effect is not well understood. I presume I should pick something that has a small lose cover RAM? | 18:54 |
| * perrito666 was being sarcastic | 18:54 | |
| natefinch | oh | 18:54 |
| perrito666 | apparently the error should come with a list of possible values | 18:55 |
| natefinch | and if I can pick anything that doesn't say bad, why can't the computer do that? | 18:55 |
| perrito666 | I guess is a trial and error approach | 18:55 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: well I guess you would not want your computer restarting randomly to try new ram mappings | 18:56 |
| natefinch | there's a bunch of gran size lines mixed in with the bad ones.... I guess those are the options? it's not at all obvious | 18:56 |
| perrito666 | if you wanted an OS that did that you would use another one :p | 18:56 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: pastebin? | 18:56 |
| natefinch | if it says num_reg 10 and I only have 7, I guess that's not a valid option? | 18:57 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: well apparently if you eff it up you will get dmesg to tell you what would be better choices | 18:58 |
| natefinch | I don't have network on the stupid machine... I can boot into a live disk... | 18:58 |
| natefinch | brb | 18:59 |
| === uru_ is now known as urulama | ||
| realnatefinch | perrito666, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7963815/ | 19:32 |
| realnatefinch | btw I have dmesg logs from the 29th where these things show up and i was able to reboot ok then | 19:33 |
| * perrito666 looks | 19:33 | |
| realnatefinch | (running on the live USB disk I made last time... one nice thing about this having happened so recently) | 19:33 |
| perrito666 | do you have an nvidia video card? | 19:33 |
| realnatefinch | yep | 19:35 |
| perrito666 | you might have better results if you use the closed driver | 19:37 |
| perrito666 | but that is just a side note | 19:37 |
| realnatefinch | oh, yeah, I used to beforeI reinstalled | 19:37 |
| realnatefinch | just forgot to this time | 19:37 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ? | 19:40 |
| realnatefinch | sure | 19:43 |
| realnatefinch | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7963935/ | 19:45 |
| perrito666 | realnatefinch: you are using a live linux on that machine right? | 19:46 |
| perrito666 | one last, paste me cat /proc/mttr | 19:46 |
| * perrito666 doesn't like what he sees | 19:49 | |
| perrito666 | if not you can blindly try with gran_size: 128M chunk_size: 128M num_reg: 7 lose cover RAM: 206M | 19:50 |
| perrito666 | and check if there is a bios upgrade for your machine | 19:50 |
| === uru_ is now known as urulama | ||
| realnatefinch | ok | 19:51 |
| realnatefinch | can you link me to that article again? I'm on my machine, so don't have it in irc history here | 19:54 |
| realnatefinch | perrito666, ^ | 19:54 |
| realnatefinch | nevermind, google found it | 19:56 |
| perrito666 | http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html | 19:56 |
| perrito666 | and the ubuntu summary http://askubuntu.com/questions/244473/how-and-why-should-i-specify-mtrr-gran-size-mtrr-chunk-size | 19:56 |
| realnatefinch | it says to append that to the "boot parameters" ...... where is that? | 19:59 |
| perrito666 | realnatefinch: /etc/default/grub -> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT | 19:59 |
| realnatefinch | ok rebooting | 20:03 |
| perrito666 | gluck | 20:03 |
| realnatefinch | ks | 20:03 |
| realnatefinch | thanks | 20:03 |
| natefinch | bah. well, let's see what dmesg says | 20:05 |
| perrito666 | meaning? | 20:06 |
| natefinch | meaning same problem on startup. dmesg says same thing - please specify chunk size etc | 20:08 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: did you run update-grub? | 20:08 |
| perrito666 | i dont recall the exact command | 20:09 |
| natefinch | it's definitely in my grub config | 20:09 |
| natefinch | oh uh no? | 20:09 |
| perrito666 | good thing is you dont need network for that | 20:09 |
| natefinch | they're update grub and update grub2. | 20:12 |
| * natefinch reboots | 20:13 | |
| natefinch | bah | 20:14 |
| perrito666 | bah means no good luck? | 20:14 |
| natefinch | correct | 20:16 |
| perrito666 | is that factory default ram? | 20:17 |
| natefinch | yep | 20:18 |
| natefinch | so the mtrr error is gone | 20:18 |
| natefinch | but my Ethernet and Wi-Fi still terminate with status 1 | 20:19 |
| perrito666 | where is that I did not see it in the dmesg you passed | 20:19 |
| natefinch | near the bottom, search for eth0 | 20:20 |
| perrito666 | mm, I see | 20:22 |
| perrito666 | ifconfig -a shows something? | 20:22 |
| natefinch | shows wifi and Ethernet as 0 packets and not make as UP or RUNNING | 20:26 |
| natefinch | s/make/marked/ | 20:26 |
| natefinch | it does have a couple virtual Ethernet adapters that I don't recognize | 20:35 |
| natefinch | at least I assume veth<garbage> means a virtual Ethernet adapter | 20:35 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: well, what you seem to have is not a problem with the interfaces but with network manager | 20:36 |
| natefinch | k | 20:36 |
| perrito666 | which is most likely something you installed | 20:36 |
| perrito666 | the virtual ones are most likely juju local :) | 20:36 |
| perrito666 | or virtualbox | 20:36 |
| perrito666 | v tells me that is virtualbox, bc I think juju local is lxbrt | 20:37 |
| natefinch | I do have both those things installed | 20:37 |
| perrito666 | so we are close | 20:37 |
| perrito666 | tell me what is the content of /etc/networking/interfaces | 20:37 |
| perrito666 | sorry | 20:37 |
| perrito666 | /etc/network/interfaces | 20:37 |
| natefinch | I have /etc/network/interfaces.d/ which is empty but no interfaces file | 20:38 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: what version of ubuntu are you using? | 20:40 |
| natefinch | 14.04.1 | 20:40 |
| perrito666 | mm, as it comes ootb you should have /etc/network/interfaces which contains | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | auto lo | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | iface lo inet loopback | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | bc, basically your problem here, if I understand correctly is that your networking service is not starting properly | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | and network manager seems to be breaking along | 20:41 |
| perrito666 | and therefore your interfaces remain down | 20:42 |
| perrito666 | you could ifup them by hand but sadly negotiating wpa by hand is harder than negotiating an extension with a loan shark | 20:42 |
| voidspace | perrito666: you sound like you speak from experience | 20:43 |
| perrito666 | have you tried to buy bonds from my country lately? they are cheaper than candy | 20:44 |
| natefinch | sudo ifup eth0 says unknown interface eth0=eth0 | 20:44 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: try adding what I told you to interfaces and sudo initctl restart networking | 20:45 |
| voidspace | by sheer coincidence my /etc/network/interfaces file has vanished | 20:45 |
| voidspace | and I'm attempting to repair networking too | 20:45 |
| * perrito666 smells a bug | 20:45 | |
| voidspace | perrito666: there is an open bug that the local provider kills networking | 20:46 |
| voidspace | and I'm working on it | 20:46 |
| perrito666 | lol | 20:46 |
| voidspace | which is probably why my network is broken | 20:46 |
| perrito666 | you seem to have found the problem | 20:46 |
| voidspace | perrito666: can you pastebin yours | 20:46 |
| voidspace | perrito666: that's the result not the cause | 20:46 |
| voidspace | well, it's the current cause of my broken network yes | 20:46 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: mine? | 20:46 |
| voidspace | perrito666: /etc/network/interfaces | 20:46 |
| voidspace | I have none whatsoever | 20:46 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: look 20 lines up | 20:47 |
| perrito666 | I copied its contents here | 20:47 |
| voidspace | was that the sum total? | 20:47 |
| perrito666 | its 3 lines long | 20:47 |
| voidspace | heh | 20:47 |
| voidspace | fair enough, thanks | 20:47 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: ^ you might be on the same page there | 20:47 |
| voidspace | now to reboot the vm and see if I get a network configuration this time | 20:48 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: you dont need to reboot the machine for that | 20:48 |
| voidspace | and I do, yay | 20:48 |
| voidspace | perrito666: no, I want to | 20:48 |
| voidspace | I can manully start the network service anyway | 20:48 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: lol | 20:48 |
| voidspace | I want to make sure that when I reboot I have it | 20:49 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: well, apparently if you create your interfaces by hand you get network back | 20:49 |
| perrito666 | mm, this is getting crowded with natefinchs | 20:49 |
| natefinch__ | hey, replacing my /etc/network/interfaces with a valid one and doing sudo ifup eth0 worked | 20:49 |
| natefinch__ | haha | 20:49 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: voidspace just explained that that is actually a bug of juju | 20:49 |
| natefinch__ | OMFG | 20:50 |
| voidspace | and to be fair, one is more than enough... | 20:50 |
| perrito666 | we seem to be deleting interfaces from computers | 20:50 |
| natefinch__ | well shit | 20:50 |
| voidspace | natefinch__: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1349635 | 20:50 |
| voidspace | local provider kills networking on the host.... | 20:50 |
| perrito666 | mmm, seems to be a bug in lx | 20:51 |
| perrito666 | lxc | 20:51 |
| voidspace | I don't think so | 20:51 |
| voidspace | see dimiter's comment further down | 20:51 |
| perrito666 | ah, no dimiter commented something | 20:51 |
| voidspace | we screw with /etc/network/interfaces | 20:51 |
| voidspace | and normally that's fine, because we control the machine | 20:52 |
| perrito666 | fuuuu, this happens bc local provider runs with sudo | 20:52 |
| perrito666 | ffff | 20:52 |
| voidspace | but not for the host on local provider | 20:52 |
| natefinch__ | voidspace: that seems like a colossally stupid idea on local | 20:52 |
| natefinch__ | voidspace: it sort of seems like a terrible idea for manual provider, too | 20:52 |
| voidspace | natefinch__: so my fix, which I'm struggling to test due to screwed networking, is precisely "don't do that on local" | 20:52 |
| voidspace | natefinch__: we need to do some of it for a maas fix for legacy reasons | 20:52 |
| natefinch__ | can someone post their /etc/network/interfaces for me? | 20:53 |
| voidspace | that maybe have already gone away | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | we should at least run local provider machine-0 on a chroot | 20:53 |
| natefinch__ | so I can update mine to what it's supposed to look like | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | if we cannot in a lxc | 20:53 |
| voidspace | perrito666: it has to be a chroot that can create lxc containers | 20:53 |
| voidspace | not sure if that's possible | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: mm, should with the right config | 20:53 |
| natefinch__ | perrito666: that certainly seems better than letting it muck with the user's configuration | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | auto lo | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | iface lo inet loopback | 20:53 |
| perrito666 | natefinch__: ^ | 20:54 |
| perrito666 | those 3 lines | 20:54 |
| perrito666 | you can skip the first one | 20:54 |
| natefinch__ | perrito666: I had to add stuff about eth0 to get ifup to let me turn on eth0 | 20:54 |
| perrito666 | natefinch__: if you add that and then initctl restart networking (or start) and then the same with network manager you will most likely get it running or you will need to reboot | 20:55 |
| voidspace | natefinch__: just that one worked for me | 20:55 |
| natefinch__ | perrito666: ok | 20:55 |
| perrito666 | natefinch__: for future references when the error in dmesg says exited with 1 is a service, when its the actuall device it throws an ugly memory dump | 20:55 |
| natefinch__ | ok | 20:56 |
| natefinch__ | rebooting | 20:56 |
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| natefinch | ahh better | 20:57 |
| natefinch | well, there goes that workday | 20:57 |
| voidspace | heh | 20:57 |
| voidspace | heh | 20:58 |
| voidspace | oops | 20:58 |
| natefinch | you would think something somewhere would just say "hey, idiot, you're missing /etc/network/interfaces!" | 20:58 |
| voidspace | that last up arrow and enter was meant for the terminal | 20:58 |
| perrito666 | I think that the chroot solution deserves further research | 20:58 |
| voidspace | natefinch: yeah, that would have been really nice | 20:58 |
| natefinch | like, seriously | 20:58 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: it does | 20:58 |
| natefinch | where? | 20:59 |
| perrito666 | it says networking service who's only conf file is /etc/network/interface existed with error 1 | 20:59 |
| perrito666 | :p | 20:59 |
| natefinch | :P | 20:59 |
| natefinch | I'm filing a bug against ubuntuy | 20:59 |
| natefinch | ubuntu | 20:59 |
| perrito666 | which usually means that interfaces has syntax errors | 20:59 |
| natefinch | but it doesn't say that | 20:59 |
| perrito666 | natefinch: I said, It means | 21:00 |
| perrito666 | :p | 21:00 |
| natefinch | it just says exited with 1 | 21:00 |
| natefinch | not "config is missing" or "config has errors" | 21:00 |
| natefinch | that's effectively like "something went wrong" | 21:00 |
| natefinch | gotta runy | 21:00 |
| menn0 | perrito666: ping | 21:05 |
| perrito666 | menn0: pong | 21:05 |
| menn0 | perrito666: I wanted to ask you about the "update in progress" messages you were seeing while investigating bug 1351030 | 21:06 |
| menn0 | perrito666: quick hangout? | 21:06 |
| perrito666 | menn0: sure, let me fetch my headphones | 21:07 |
| perrito666 | btw, isnt it like the middle of the night for you? | 21:07 |
| menn0 | perrito666: nope it's just after 9am | 21:07 |
| voidspace | menn0: morning | 21:07 |
| perrito666 | menn0: odd, I usually use your presence as the mark that I have been here too long :p | 21:07 |
| menn0 | voidspace: howdy voidspace | 21:08 |
| voidspace | o/ | 21:08 |
| menn0 | perrito666: maybe you have :) | 21:08 |
| perrito666 | menn0: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone | 21:08 |
| voidspace | midnight here, but I've got insomnia so working late and sleeping late | 21:08 |
| perrito666 | well I start around 7 and its 18 ok, perhas | 21:08 |
| voidspace | machine-1: 2014-08-05 21:27:06 ERROR juju.worker runner.go:219 exited "networker": command "lsmod | grep -q 8021q || modprobe 8021q" failed (code: 1, stdout: , stderr: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.13.0-32-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory | 21:27 |
| perrito666 | sinzui: ping | 21:45 |
| perrito666 | and since I am here menn0 could you answer my email to juju-dev with the bit that says how to know if juju is upgrading? | 21:46 |
| menn0 | perrito666: will do | 21:48 |
| perrito666 | thank you | 21:48 |
| perrito666 | with that I can ask sinzui to add the wait in the tests :p | 21:49 |
| voidspace | I give up | 21:53 |
| voidspace | for now | 21:53 |
| voidspace | goodnight all | 21:53 |
| perrito666 | voidspace: dont forget to comment on the bug and un-assign it | 21:55 |
| perrito666 | menn0_: all yours added a helper script and decent instructions on how to repreoduce and since we are in it a few of my not so useless conclussions | 23:11 |
| perrito666 | cheers | 23:11 |
| perrito666 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1351030 | 23:11 |
| menn0_ | perrito666: thanks very much. that's very helpful. | 23:16 |
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