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willcookemorning all02:30
willcookeO_o02:30
willcookeolli, you want to know what tomorrow has in store?  We're in the future02:30
didrockswaow, seems really similar to the shape of your eyes right now :)02:30
willcooke:D02:30
willcookeor rather...02:31
olliwillcooke, what are tomorrows lottery numbers?02:31
* TheMuso waves.02:31
willcookeX/02:31
didrocksyeah, +1 ;)02:31
willcookeolli, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and ...... 802:31
sarnolddo we have flying cars in the future?02:31
* willcooke looks out the window02:31
TheMusoNot yet.02:31
* TheMuso notes he is further in the future. :p02:31
willcooke... hrm.  Not yet, but it's still the morning, so maybe later on today02:31
didrockswho knows…02:31
olliheh, willcooke... Beijing right... as if you'd see something outside your window with all that smog02:32
sarnoldoh okay :) I wouldn't want the future to be bland and boring..02:32
TheMusoBut the authoriatitve figure is actually robert_ancell.02:32
willcookeolli, :)02:32
TheMusoRobert is further in the future than I am.02:32
willcookeTheMuso, bad news...  I have been pointed at:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/ubuntu-desktop.html02:33
willcookeTheMuso, ;)  Top of the list is alsa02:33
willcookeTheMuso, anything we need to be concerned about?  Seems like its only a minor point release02:33
TheMusowillcooke: Oh right, I forgot to update that. I'm patch piloting atm, will take care of after.02:34
willcookeTheMuso, sweet, thanks!02:34
seb128good morning desktopers02:42
seb128rsalveti, hey, do you know if there is any known ofono issue with recent updates?03:43
rsalvetiseb128: not that I know, why?03:44
seb128the settings tests started being unhappy since yesterday03:44
seb128e.g CI run on https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/get-user-by-id/+merge/22951003:44
rsalvetiI know alfonso landed a new ofono, maybe that caused the regression03:45
rsalvetihttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/1978/console03:45
rsalvetithis was because of a jenkins issue though03:46
seb128there is a timeout03:46
seb128but some of the tests are FAIL before that03:46
seb128Laney had another run showing similar failures03:46
rsalvetiright, quite a few failures03:47
seb128rsalveti, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/1977/?03:47
rsalvetiprobably because of latest landing, yeah03:47
rsalvetiseb128: abeato should be on soon03:47
seb128k03:47
pittididrocks: you can use the "needs-recommends" restriction if you want the test Depends: recommends installed05:10
pittididrocks: you say you are running this on trusty, does that mean trusty's autopkgtest?05:10
pittididrocks: that exception when trying to print an exception looks familiar, but I think I fixed that months ago05:11
didrockspitti: hey, sorry, we were reconnected automatically :)05:35
didrockspitti: thanks for the needs-recommends trick, I'll do that right now05:35
pittididrocks: pas de probléme :)05:35
didrockswhen I say on trusty, I have a trusty host (so trusty adt), but the chroot is utopic05:36
pittididrocks: I'll answer to your mail in more detail, but that was the quick thing (and whether you run autopkgtest from trusty)05:36
pittididrocks: ah; please try utopic's autopkgtest (you can just install the .deb)05:36
didrocksyeah, no worry! :)05:36
didrocksok, doing that now05:36
didrocksso, without the -o option?05:36
pittididrocks: trusty's autopkgtest was just barely working with qemu, it was very new at that time05:36
didrocksah, that would explain :)05:37
pittididrocks: -o> as you like05:37
* didrocks download the .deb and tries05:37
pittididrocks: -o just puts the log and per-test stdout/err etc. into that directory, if you need it05:37
pittiit's --output-dir05:37
didrockshum05:37
pittiotherwise it just goes to stdout/err05:37
didrocksbut then, the output should be realtime, still?05:37
didrocks(the test output)05:37
pittididrocks: yes, it's always realtime05:38
pittididrocks: well, it wasn't in trusty yet for qemu05:38
didrocksahah05:38
didrocksthat explains :)05:38
pittididrocks: (I think; pretty much half of the code changed since then..)05:38
didrockswaow05:38
didrocksok, new deb installed05:38
didrocksno need for a newer qemu?05:38
didrocksadt-run [13:39:13]: version 3.3.105:39
didrockslet's see ;)05:39
pittididrocks: no, shoudl be ok05:39
pittididrocks: we are using trusty's qemu in production CI05:39
pittididrocks: but autopkgtest straight from git head05:39
didrocksliving on the edge!05:39
didrocks(I try to keep my box trust*ed* as the developer story main focus is there)05:40
didrocksbut that's fine, if I only have newer pep8 and adt :)05:40
pitti$ git shortlog 2.14.1 |wc -l05:40
pitti70605:40
pitti$ git diff 2.14.1.. |diffstat05:40
didrockswaow, some work is going on here!05:40
pitti 82 files changed, 8191 insertions(+), 5170 deletions(-)05:40
didrocks:)05:40
pittididrocks: a few commits here and there :)05:40
didrocksok, you were not kidding telling half the code changed :p05:41
pittididrocks: no, there's a few times when I'm serious05:41
didrocksheh05:41
didrockslike in the early morning apparently :)05:41
* didrocks sees one byte after another coming on his laptop05:44
pittididrocks: I hope you have a well filled apt-cacher-ng or something similar05:45
didrockspitti: yeah, otherwise I would have lose patience :p05:45
pittididrocks: it's pretty much a must for adt, otherwise you'll go crazy -- indeed05:46
pittididrocks: adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud and adt-build-lxc auto-detect and use it, too05:46
pitti(guess which cacher I'm using :) )05:46
didrocksenough bet for this week, even if the answser is obvious ;)05:47
didrocksanswer*05:47
pittididrocks: oh, how many beers did you already lose?05:47
didrockspitti: nothing, seb is only interesting in betting moneys. He doesn't go down to less than a thousand euros :p05:48
didrocksand then, he wonders why noone is accepting his bets :p05:48
pittiseb128: o_O05:49
seb128lol05:49
seb128guys!05:49
seb128how you make me a reputation there05:49
didrockspitti: the output is slightly misordered (like I get the coverage and test results before some other output), otherwise, it seems to behave :)05:53
didrocksit exits with 4 though, is that expected? (the output told no test failing)05:54
pittididrocks: no, that means some test failed; log | pastebin, SVP?05:55
pittididrocks: I still had the PEP-8 error yesterday05:55
didrockspitti: yeah, only with utopic pep8, I fixed that in ~utopic405:56
didrocksrerunning and pasting05:56
pittididrocks: that's where -o comes in handy :)05:56
pitti(or -l at least)05:56
pittididrocks: it didn't just complain about lots of stderr?05:56
didrockspitti: no, I didn't get anything like that05:58
didrockslet's see, I just try to 2>&1 | tee to get the exact same output order05:58
pittididrocks: the log file by and large has that already05:59
didrocksok, will do for next runs :)05:59
didrocksoh, we have a meeting now, will move there and paste it to you later (still running)05:59
didrocks1pitti: so, output is 1 and traces are: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/foo (I wonder if it doesn't try to run them twice or if it's the output not being in order)06:05
didrocks1I couldn't use pastebin, it's always timing out06:05
didrocks1in the middle, you can see:06:05
didrocks1Ran 255 tests in 42.031s06:05
didrocks1but: all                  FAIL stderr: 2014-08-05 06:00:40,901 [nose.plugins.manager] DEBUG: DefaultPluginManager load plugin cov = nose_cov:Cov06:05
didrocks1and I guess it's the wrapping bash script that is set -e producing that?06:06
pittiall                  FAIL stderr: 2014-08-05 06:00:40,901 [nose.plugins.manager] DEBUG: DefaultPluginManager load plugin cov = nose_cov:Cov06:06
pittiadt-run [14:01:24]: test all:  - - - - - - - - - - stderr - - - - - - - - - -06:06
pitti2014-08-05 06:00:40,901 [nose.plugins.manager] DEBUG: DefaultPluginManager load plugin cov = nose_cov:Cov06:06
didrocks1and then adt repaste what was in stderr?06:06
pittididrocks1: right06:06
didrocks1ah ok ;)06:06
* didrocks1 removes -e06:06
pittididrocks1: so, either you fix your tests to output to stdout, or you add "allow-stderr" restriction06:07
pittididrocks1: unfortunately python's unittest defaults to stderr06:07
didrocks1yeah06:07
didrocks1ok, will add that06:07
pittiunittest.main(testRunner=unittest.TextTestRunner(stream=sys.stdout, verbosity=2))06:07
pittimost of my tests use that to write to stdout06:07
pittidear unittest, test progress is not an error!06:08
didrocks1indeed :p06:08
didrocks1I'll just add one of the 206:08
didrocks1connection being bad here, I won't go on with the docker tests (requiring downloading a docker image) and the integration tests06:09
didrocks1I guess that will be for next week06:09
didrocks1that's great already that way06:09
pittididrocks1: ok, I think we settled everything from your mails then?06:10
didrocks1pitti: yeah, thanks a lot for all your help!06:10
pittididrocks1: de rien, tu es un bienvenue !06:10
pitti(or something similar?)06:11
didrocks1parfait "de rien" is enough ;)06:11
didrocks1pitti: let's sync next week on getting network up then :)06:12
didrocks1thanks again06:12
pittiyes06:12
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DickensI DID IT!!!15:11
tsdgeostedg: do you know who could i ask to review https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/indicator-power/fix_autostart/+merge/229325 and https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/indicator-bluetooth/fix_autostart/+merge/229324 ?15:17
tedgtsdgeos, I saw those, but I haven't looked, what is the issue?15:18
tsdgeostedg: they get autostarted if you log into Plasma (or any non unity desktop) which doesn't make sense afaics15:18
tedgtsdgeos, So we can filter them out of plasma then. The problem is folks like XFCE do use them.15:19
tsdgeostedg: do they? i had a look at my autostart and looks like this15:19
tsdgeostedg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961955/15:20
tsdgeosthat's why i just did the same we seem to do everywhere15:20
tedgtsdgeos, Is plasma using Upstart sessions?15:24
tsdgeosi have no clue :D15:24
tsdgeosi guess the kubuntu guys made it use15:24
tedgtsdgeos, initctl list ← does that list system jobs or session jobs ?15:25
tsdgeosi'm not in Plasma at the moment15:25
tsdgeosi'll come back to you once i stop working :D15:25
* tedg gives tsdgeos the rest of the day off ;-)15:25
tsdgeosonly 34 min more ;)15:26
ogra_geez ... did anyone tell you before that you sound really german ?15:27
ogra_:)15:27
ogra_34min 12seconds and i'm done15:27
tsdgeosogra_: nope15:28
tsdgeosogra_: once a guy told me i didn't look like "an Albert"15:28
tsdgeoswhatever that's suposed to mean15:28
GunnarHjLaney: ping?15:28
ogra_lol15:28
* tedg makes a note to always call tsdgeos "Jim"15:31
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mitya57tsdgeos: I think "OnlyShowIn: unity" is wrong. Indicators should *not* be started in Unity via xdg autostart, as they are started via upstart.16:04
tsdgeosmitya57: it's not to make it open in unity, it's to make it not open in !unity16:05
mitya57Will "NotShowIn: Unity;" ---> "NotShowIn: Unity;KDE;" suit you?16:05
tsdgeosmitya57: it'll fix the bug for Plasma, not for others16:06
tsdgeosbut it is a hard situation i understand16:06
tsdgeosyou can either blacklist all and fail because you blacklisted too much or blacklist some and fail because you blackilisted too few16:06
tsdgeosmitya57: i can go that way if people prefer16:07
tsdgeosi'll be back in an hour or so16:09
tsdgeosor just comment on the merges ;)16:09
mitya57According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/2.3.2-0ubuntu2, Xubuntu is now using upstart jobs as well16:12
* mitya57 comments on the merges16:12
mitya57Actually, maybe we don't need that desktop file at all16:13
Dickensyikes... i'm running low on HD space :-(16:25
Dickensi gotta find a way to compress some of my older movies down to a more reasonable size16:25
chrisccoulsonI keep running out of space too, and I've almost convinced myself that the solution to this is http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-inch-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B00LMXBMUQ/16:28
Dickensyea... umm why ssd though?16:29
Dickensi dont think your performance increase outweighs the cost if it's just for storing movies16:30
Dickensi have 4TB of storage and i'm running low16:30
Dickensit's these 50GB blueray rips that's doing it16:30
Dickensi gotta replace them with smaller files16:30
Dickensi wish there was a way to script handbrake to compress movies to a certain bitrate after a certain amount of time16:30
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tsdgeostedg: which command you told me to run?17:57
tedgtsdgeos, initctl list18:40
tsdgeostedg: http://paste.kde.org/pygwdmhn618:41
tsdgeosoh i have forgotten to stop mediascanner today18:41
mitya57tsdgeos: I think it'll be a good idea to get someone else from desktop team to confirm that they don't need that file18:58
tsdgeos+119:00
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RAOFLaney: You on? I'm looking at the webkitgtk SRU, and have some questions.23:42

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