| cmaloney | Evening, btw. | 02:26 |
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| rick_h__ | morning | 06:17 |
| brousch | cmaloney: The guy in this other Go game is talking about eyes. I guess it's time to read a strategy guide | 12:45 |
| brousch | Oh this is lovely http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/08/05/0344244/synolocker-0-day-ransomware-puts-nas-files-at-risk | 12:46 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/fqzdA8 - Synolocker 0-Day Ransomware Puts NAS Files At Risk - Slashdot | 12:46 |
| jrwren | your fault for running synology instead of building your own linux nas like a good linux user. | 12:54 |
| jrwren | :p j/k | 12:54 |
| brousch | Well I'm not fool enough to expose it to the Internet | 12:55 |
| brousch | jrwren: Your comment is not a joke on many other Linux forums | 12:59 |
| jrwren | I know. :( Its one of the reasons that I'm not a proud community member. | 13:01 |
| jrwren | I hear they function as pretty good routers too. The dual nic synologies that is. | 13:01 |
| nullspace | I've seen tons of embedded device vulenablities | 13:34 |
| jrwren | nullspace: me too. I usually see it in cheap crap routers or stuff which was never meant to be internet facing. | 13:42 |
| jrwren | Synology has a good reputation and is considered to a higher grade than competetors. I rarely see such vulnerabilities in the higher rep stuff. | 13:42 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Yeah, there's much more under the surface of a go game than meets the "eye" | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | I'd recommend picking up "Beginning Go" as a good starting point | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | The "So You Want To Play Go" series is good as well, but is pretty chatty and doesn't tend to go too far in depth at the beginner levels. | 13:53 |
| jrwren | You might say it takes a minute to learn and a lifetime to master. | 13:53 |
| cmaloney | If you wanted to be a cheezy commercial for a game, yes. | 13:54 |
| nullspace | jrwren: way to quote the tag line for othelloe | 14:07 |
| cmaloney | Which is anything but a game that takes a lifetime to master. :) | 14:07 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Seriously, this game is fin. :) | 14:08 |
| cmaloney | Those stones are dead dead dead | 14:08 |
| cmaloney | All we're doing is taking territory from the final score. | 14:09 |
| brousch | I guess there was less on the left than I thought | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, and the stones in the corner were dead | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | That's what your other game is trying to teach you. | 14:36 |
| brousch | Well my other game says half of the board is dead even though it's open space | 14:37 |
| cmaloney | link? | 14:38 |
| brousch | So the scoring has me confused again | 14:38 |
| brousch | How did I get 30? 10 prisoners + 16 territories = 30? | 14:38 |
| brousch | ah, I get 2*<your dead stones>? | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | 16 + 4 (dead stones) + 10 | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | yep | 14:39 |
| brousch | It's in the other column, so that's not obvious | 14:40 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, those are essentially prisoners | 14:40 |
| brousch | Here's the other game http://www.dragongoserver.net/game.php?gid=918382 | 14:42 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/zWcd65 - DGS - Game #918382,59 | 14:42 |
| brousch | He tells me all of the black groups are dead, but is playing through it with me and giving comments | 14:43 |
| cmaloney | The group on the left is dead | 14:43 |
| brousch | Ah, you can see the comments | 14:43 |
| cmaloney | You're depriving yourself of liberties with each move. | 14:43 |
| cmaloney | No, that's what I'm seeing. :) | 14:44 |
| cmaloney | All he needs to do is fill in F1, and you're fucked. | 14:44 |
| cmaloney | or g1 if you play at f1 | 14:44 |
| cmaloney | It may take a little longer for the top group to get surrounded but there's little you can do to get out of that situation. | 14:45 |
| brousch | If I get a8 and f3 first, it will destroy the whole thing | 14:45 |
| cmaloney | Though I'm not sure the top ggroup is dead. | 14:45 |
| cmaloney | You can't. | 14:45 |
| brousch | I'm sure he will fill f3 when I get a8, but still possible | 14:46 |
| cmaloney | All he needs is to fill in f3 and you're fucked. | 14:46 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, and you can't play there otherwise. | 14:46 |
| cmaloney | so he's correct. You're fucked. | 14:46 |
| brousch | I need 0 handicap so when I win it will not feel weak | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | Sure. Feel free to ignore that invite | 14:53 |
| brousch | I disputed it | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | Though there's no shame in handicap. :) | 14:53 |
| brousch | It is not a true win with handicap | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | Suit yourself. :) | 14:55 |
| brousch | Have you begun reading the Go books yet? | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I've been leafing through them | 14:58 |
| cmaloney | Have also been schooled by GnuGo on occasion. :) | 14:58 |
| brousch | GnuGo whoops me | 15:00 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, you have to set the level pretty low | 15:01 |
| cmaloney | It's not a perfect player (skilled players can whoop it pretty easily) but it is brutal to beginners | 15:02 |
| cmaloney | brousch: http://shop.gogameguru.com/so-you-want-to-play-go-1/ | 15:19 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/t700pJ - So You Want to Play Go? | 15:19 |
| brousch | I finally see how all of my stones are doomed in that other game. | 16:00 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it takes a little bit of practice, but it'll become apparent. | 16:01 |
| cmaloney | This is why there are a lot of .sgf imports in programs; to play out "what-if" scenarios. | 16:02 |
| cmaloney | in chess it seemed a bit overkill, but in go it's crucial | 16:02 |
| brousch | I can go about 4 moves in my head | 16:54 |
| cmaloney | You're better than I. I look at the board anew each move. | 17:13 |
| brousch | I do that too, but try to look at possibilities a few moves ahead. I don't usually succeed though | 17:20 |
| brousch | And it's pretty useless early on | 17:20 |
| cmaloney | heh | 17:22 |
| rick_h__ | howdy | 19:58 |
| widox | hey hey | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | Hey rick_h__ | 20:03 |
| cmaloney | Or should we say "Guten Tag"? | 20:03 |
| rick_h__ | guten aben | 20:06 |
| greg-g | hello from London | 20:28 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: You too? | 20:38 |
| * cmaloney is feeling the moss growing | 20:39 | |
| cmaloney | Also: Probably not the best day to be a Justin.tv subscriber. | 20:48 |
| cmaloney | http://justin.tv/ | 20:48 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/1ESDp - Goodbye from Justin.tv | 20:48 |
| cmaloney | "The Justin.tv website, mobile apps, and APIs are no longer in service. Thank you sincerely for seven years of live video memories." | 20:48 |
| cmaloney | AKA: Thanks for seven years of content that we could use to leverage our buyout | 20:49 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: here for Wikimania | 20:53 |
| jrwren | huh... sad that justin.tv shutdown. | 22:38 |
| jrwren | they own twitch.tv, which is THRIVING to say the least. | 22:38 |
| jrwren | seems like they could have spun justin.tv off | 22:38 |
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