[07:17] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: if gnome-session crashes it's a problem there, I've seen the non-emulating touch event thing, but haven't had a reliable trigger..
[07:19] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: but is bug 1121379 still reproducable?
[07:19] <ubottu> bug 1121379 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Multiple finger touch fails on Sony Vaio Duo 11 running Ubuntu 12.10 (N-Trig DuoSense MultiTouch)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1121379
[07:20] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: oh.. that might have been fixed with the qt5 updates
[07:25] <tjaalton> I couldn't repro it..
[09:09] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah I think the qt5 update might have fixed it
[09:14] <tjaalton> this forcepad is even worse than clickpad..
[10:59] <tjaalton> hm, mesa 10.3 will be released post-ff
[11:00] <tjaalton> rc2 released a day later than ff
[11:03] <mlankhorst> could we chuck in rc1?
[11:06] <tjaalton> yeah, and then update "because it's rc"
[11:06] <tjaalton> so just bugfixes after that :)
[11:06] <tjaalton> ideally..
[11:06] <mlankhorst> yeah
[11:06] <mlankhorst> though tbh I'm worried about fglrx holding up everything more..
[11:06] <tjaalton> right..
[11:18] <mdeslaur> mlankhorst: the qt5 update? why would that be related?
[11:20] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: because without it touch does funny things..
[11:21] <mdeslaur> mlankhorst: oh? even if nothing on that desktop uses qt?
[11:21] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: unity uses it I think
[11:22] <mlankhorst> but not 100% sure, I never received my touch laptop, so I can't check right now. I'll poke the person who was supposed to send it to me :P
[11:23] <mdeslaur> yeah, I don't have a touch laptop either...so I can't really try and see if I can reproduce it
[11:23] <mdeslaur> mlankhorst, tjaalton: thanks for looking
[11:24] <tjaalton> the qt update was in may though, if you refer to bug 1307701
[11:24] <ubottu> bug 1307701 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "xserver mouse pointer emulation from touch breaks with QML app." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307701
[11:25] <mlankhorst> yeah
[11:25] <mlankhorst> I think in some circumstances gtk+ might have been affected too when I was looking, but can't remember it ever did
[11:32] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: looking again I'm not completely sure any more why I thought gtk was unaffected, it looks like it still might be..
[11:33] <mlankhorst> but I guess it wasn't in the original config
[12:07] <mdeslaur> hrm, maybe he does have something qt running
[12:09] <mlankhorst> possibly but the newer libqt5 is in -updates
[12:09] <mlankhorst> iirc
[12:09] <mlankhorst> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu14.2
[20:35] <Sarvatt> ricotz: hey are those utopic blobs allowing newer video abi's?
[20:35] <Sarvatt> ricotz: gonna shove xserver 1.16 in there tomorrow
[20:36] <Sarvatt> (for utopic only)
[20:42] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: not fglrx..
[20:42] <Sarvatt> yeah no fglrx in there anyway
[20:50] <ricotz> Sarvatt, yeah they do, all of them, besides 340 they are overruled anyway by the archive package
[20:50] <ricotz> those should be patched for abi 18 iirc 
[20:51] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: yeah utopic in archive is abi 18 ready
[20:52] <Sarvatt> \o/