[00:00] <TJ-> Matt23456: try "hash -p /usr/local/bin/yasm" yasm
[00:00] <Matt23456> TJ: puts me in a shell?
[00:00] <TJ-> littledude: No, dhclient is launched by Network Manager after the network is started
[00:00] <TJ-> Matt23456: my typo!
[00:01] <TJ-> Matt23456: try "hash -p /usr/local/bin/yasm yasm "
[00:01] <littledude> TJ- so what could be the cause then ?
[00:01] <Matt23456> TJ: k, did that...still same error, lol!
[00:02] <littledude> the whole / is mounted rw
[00:02] <littledude> and if I kill and restart dhclient, it works
[00:02] <littledude> It's only during the boot that it happens.
[00:02] <TJ-> Matt23456: OK, then your compiler script has hard-coded the binary path it seems
[00:02] <lccadmin> I've got vlc set up to capture audio and video.  Has anyone ever used ubuntu to take somethiing like that and get it onto google hangouts?
[00:02] <TJ-> Matt23456: "hash -lt yasm" will show you what bash has cached
[00:03] <TJ-> littledude: Do you have a separate file-system for /var/ ?
[00:03] <Matt23456> TJ: yasm not found...
[00:03] <littledude> no
[00:03] <littledude> it's on /
[00:04] <kmyst> is there a build log you can save when you compile a source deb?
[00:04] <TJ-> Matt23456: that means you've cleared the cache... it'll be re-added next time it is called. Run the compile, let it call yasm, break the make, and then check what it is set to now, if anything
[00:05] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : tried DD,   reinstalling now, will see what happens.....looks like that little partition went away
[00:05] <TJ-> kmyst: "fakeroot debian/rules binary 2>&1 | tee /tmp/build.log"
[00:05] <Matt23456> TJ: still yasm not found...
[00:05] <TJ-> Matt23456: must be hard coded then, in the Makefile
[00:05] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Well, That was quick ! .. good luck .
[00:05] <kmyst> TJ-: ugh, i was afraid of that :/
[00:05] <kmyst> TJ-: gonna have to recompile eh?
[00:06] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : if this works the next thing will be to get the wifi working
[00:06] <TJ-> kmyst: Did you do a customised build?
[00:06] <TJ-> kmyst: If it is the default package build, you could look at the build logs on launchpad for that package-version
[00:07] <kmyst> TJ-: nah, pulled down latest samba source in precise (3.6.3) tried to compile and it fails, i need to compile it with a new flag but if this can't build i'm up a creek ;)
[00:07] <kmyst> TJ-: that's an idea i hadn't thought of that...
[00:08] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : nope  still died at boot loader install,   lets finish without installing boot and try a manual install
[00:09] <Matt23456> TJ: I don't see any yasm references in the make?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: If it works, the easiest thing to get WIFI working is get the lap top to a wired connection and update/upgrade the software. A real good chance the WIFI drivers will be loaded then.
[00:10] <TJ-> Matt23456: hang on! Those instructions for building yasm have "--bindir="$HOME/bin" " and the later instructions to build ffmpeg also have "--bindir="$HOME/bin" "
[00:10] <alejandro_> vatos que onda morros
[00:11] <Matt23456> TJ: I don't follow?
[00:11] <alejandro_> me la jale y salio leche
[00:11] <TJ-> Matt23456: So if yasm wasn't installed to "$HOME/bin/" then the $PATH will take precedence ... doesn't explain why it seems to miss "/user/local/bin" unless that isn't in the $PATH right now, or not ahead of "/usr/bin"
[00:12] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Are you doing a standard install, or getting fancy with directing the installer for particular partitioning ?
[00:12] <Matt23456> TJ: Is there an easy fix?
[00:13] <dexx> lads I have a question
[00:13] <kmyst> TJ-: where they hide the build log? found the source on launchpad
[00:13] <dexx> here in ubuntu, if I hover my mouse over a gif it starts autoplay, which I don't always like... how do I cancel it?
[00:13] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : just a standard install,  still having a problem   that small partition is gone but I still cant delete the other partitions
[00:14] <TJ-> Matt23456: I'm trying to figure out why yasm's configure points to the $HOME/bin when nothing else has been installed at that point, but regardless of that, it should be installing its binaries under "--prefix="$HOME/ffmpeg_build"
[00:14] <kmyst> TJ-: nm got it :)
[00:15] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: " I still cant delete the other partitions" are you using GParted from within the install ? or from the liveDVD ?
[00:15] <MikeM_> Is there an ubuntu-md discussion?
[00:16] <Matt23456> TJ: I can't understand why the 12.04 package manager is still running with the old version in the repos
[00:16] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, : from live cd but gparted not working,  must be some kind of write protect on all of it
[00:17] <TJ-> Matt23456: It's 12.04 ... the packages were frozen about 2 months before release, only bug and security fixes are applied after release
[00:17] <Matt23456> ah
[00:18] <unclescratchie> Bashing-om, :   sorry  have to go ....thanks for the help
[00:18] <Matt23456> TJ: I appreciate your time!
[00:19] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: IF the partitions you are attempting to delete are 'logical' that reside in the "extended" container-> a) is it that 'extended' partition; or b) is the swap partition active ( key icon in the GParted window) on the partitions you are trying to delete ?
[00:19] <TJ-> Matt23456: I just built yasm, and ran "yasm --version" and now "hash -lt yasm" reports "builtin hash -p /home/tj/bin/yasm yasm"
[00:19] <MikeM_> Is there an ubuntu discussion specific to ubuntu-md?
[00:19] <Matt23456> TJ: can you share your yasm build commands?
[00:20] <TJ-> Matt23456: Identical to the Wiki. I think your problem is, the instructions add "$HOME/bin" to the end of the path; it needs to be at the front to beat /usr/bin/yasm from being found. Do "export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin" and try "yasm --version" again
[00:21] <TJ-> Matt23456: ignore that!!!
[00:21] <Matt23456> TJ: too late...
[00:21] <TJ-> Matt23456: I wrote it wrong way around, too LOL ... "export PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH" !!
[00:21] <Matt23456> TJ: that fixed the version!
[00:21] <chmrr> TJ-: Looks like the PPA builds failed. :/
[00:21] <TJ-> Matt23456: oh well, it won't hurt to be at both ends :) It'll go away next time you log-out :)
[00:22] <TJ-> Matt23456: Yup... their instructions for the PATH are reversed to what they need
[00:22] <Matt23456> TJ: THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
[00:22] <TJ-> chmrr: Oh phooey! I best go look
[00:23] <TJ-> chmrr: Yeah, failed here too, lots of tests have failed :(
[00:23] <chmrr> It looks like test failures, but I'm having trouble parsing the nature of the test fails
[00:23] <MikeM_> quit
[00:23] <Matt23456> TJ: Thanks again!
[00:24] <TJ-> Matt23456: Glad we figured it out :)
[00:29] <TJ-> chmrr: Doesn't look good; leak test seems to have failed
[00:29] <chmrr> TJ-: My wild guess is that the first hunk of the patch you applied is enough to fix the segfault.  The fourth is the memory leak, and the middle two may depend on other commits
[00:29] <chmrr> Interesting that there are leak tests for that codepath, but that they didn't trigger the segfault
[00:30] <TJ-> chmrr: leak tests typically wrap the library being tested with their own malloc/free implementations, similar to valgrind
[00:31] <TJ-> chmrr: I'll take a look again tomorrow, and maybe someone else will have taken a look too by then
[00:31] <chmrr> Sure, but they require exercising the library in order to test the various malloc/free calls
[00:31] <chmrr> Which should have nominally found the free-without-malloc as well
[00:31] <chmrr> Sure -- t'is late for you
[00:31] <chmrr> Thanks for looking
[00:32] <microm> Anyone knows how to fix this the right way: /etc/init.d/cups: broken symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[00:33] <laspahr> this might be a bit off topic.. but how would I find my SMTP server?
[00:36] <TJ-> chmrr: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7956693/
[00:39] <chmrr> Hm; what's the meaning to having extra lines?
[00:41] <axsuul> Was root removed in 14.04?
[00:43] <kevinfish> how do I fix this?  http://pastebin.com/wRnuaTkz
[00:44] <chmrr> TJ-: Ah, https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Testing/Check-localplt somewhat clarifies.  But doesn't really help me determine why your patch is causing that
[00:44] <TJ-> chmrr: correction to my pastebin, I included the wrong comparison file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7956739/
[00:47] <jasabella> hi :) i think mtrr settings are incorrect and was wondering if anybody had any links explaining how to fix it?
[00:47] <warrengee> Is this the right place to ask questions about kernel compiling for Ubuntu?
[00:48] <laspahr> hello..?
[00:48] <chmrr> TJ-: I was hoping to void cloning the glibc git repo while investigating this.  But the gitweb can only provide so much. :)
[00:50] <Bashing-om> axsuul: ?? are you referring to 'pkexec' // new kid on the block executable.
[01:00] <chmrr> TJ-: Other patches in debian/patches/ add calls to feof and memmem, but I see no reason why your change would in any way change the situation.  I think I'm out of my depth, here.
[01:02] <morenoh150> how do I add windows to my grub options?
[01:03] <morenoh150> I recently reinstalled but it didn't pick up windows
[01:03] <TJ-> chmrr: I'm looking at the upstream in case there are related patches, but not found anything obvious so far
[01:04] <Izura9> Hey room, anyone had problems with clamav leaving a bunch of leftover files in /etc and other places?
[01:04] <Izura9> after purging
[01:08] <capoderra2> I hope I've finally joined
[01:08] <capoderra2> ok, so I installed beep, but issuing the beep command makes no sound
[01:08] <capoderra2> I know my pc speakers work, so can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[01:09] <capoderra2> I'm talking about the internal speaker specifically
[01:12] <Izura9> anyone had problems fully uninstalling clamav?
[01:12] <capoderra2> Izura9, what command did you use?
[01:13] <Izura9> sudo apt-get purge clamav    but there are a bunch of leftover files scattered around
[01:13] <TJ-> chmrr: Grrr! It's not my patch, I think it is the previous change! I was looking for uses of "memmem" and: "debian/patches/any/CVE-2014-0475.diff:43:+  if (__builtin_expect ((memmem (name, namelen,"
[01:14] <ObrienDave> Izura9, most packages leave residual files after purge. especially if those files are not part of the install process
[01:15] <Izura9> ObrienDave: I see, i found a folder named debian that it left behind but the others i think need admin priveledge to remove
[01:15] <Izura9> i deleted the debian folder
[01:15] <ObrienDave> Izura9, you would have to delete the others through terminal and sudo
[01:16] <Izura9> hmmm i thought i might have to do that. just wary that i'll delete something crucial in sudo
[01:16] <sagat> alguem ai  pode me ajudar
[01:17] <ObrienDave> Izura9, be careful ;)
[01:17] <Izura9> ObrienDave: i'll try to be!
[01:17] <Izura9> :)
[01:17] <Izura9> thank you though
[01:17] <ObrienDave> backup? we don't need no stinking backup ;P
[01:18] <ObrienDave> *hint hint*
[01:18] <Izura9> what's this thing you call a backup? :p
[01:18] <sagat> here is only in English?
[01:18] <ObrienDave> i dunno, never used one ;P
[01:18] <ObrienDave> sagat, yes, what is your native language?
[01:19] <sagat> portugues
[01:19] <sagat> brasil
[01:19] <ObrienDave> !pt | sagat
[01:19] <bsdbandit> hey anyone using kickstart to automate installing ubuntu 12.04
[01:19] <bsdbandit> ?
[01:20] <sagat> ok muito obrigado
[01:21] <capoderra2> sagat, voce pode digitar "/join #ubuntu-br"
[01:22] <sagat>  Não pode entrar #ubuntu-br (Está interdito).
[01:30] <capoderra2> bsdbandit, have you tried instalinux.com?
[01:40] <capoderra2> hey, if I issue modprobe pcspkr, I can get my internal speaker to beep with beep command, but once I restart it stops working, I have to do modprobe again
[01:40] <capoderra2> how do I get it to stay after reboot?
[01:41] <laspahr> what's the easiest and/or quickest way to find my SMTP server..?
[01:41] <laspahr> sorry it's a little off topic
[01:43] <nick234> do u use gmail
[01:45] <benyamin> Can anyone help me? i want have a screen magnifying glass for my ubuntu, that small and fast. can anyone reffer me to an apps? i have try Virtual Magnifying glass and it has bug.. -_-
[01:47] <Beldar> benyamin, ctrl-mouse wheel with magnify and shrink
[01:47] <Beldar> will*
[01:47] <benyamin> Beldar: only that beldar?
[01:48] <Beldar> benyamin, Only one I can think of at the moment.
[01:48] <benyamin> Beldar: for xubuntu ? if it works?
[01:48] <benyamin> Beldar: For the whole desktop?
[01:49] <Beldar> benyamin, Not sure, basically some of the work is on your end, this is free help. ;)
[01:49] <Beldar> orca is another
[01:50] <knob> Hello everyone.
[01:50] <knob> I have a n00b-ish question
[01:50] <benyamin> Beldar: Orca is discontiniud and having big problem with xubuntu
[01:50] <Beldar> !orca
[01:50] <benyamin> !orca?
[01:51] <Beldar> !info orca
[01:51] <benyamin> Beldar: That's?
[01:51] <knob> My computer is a little bit laggy.   It's just mili-seconds when I am working on the Ubuntu Desktop.        The odd thing is: this is a fresh Ubuntu install (has about 2 months).  The computer has 16GB of ram, an Intel 520 SSD (256GB), and an Intel i7 proc (stock).    Any idea what could be going on?
[01:51] <Beldar> I'm talking with the bit just checking orca benyamin
[01:51] <knob> The best thing that crosses my mind is... maybe a better video card?    I play no games... so I have a no-name $65 video card.
[01:51] <Beldar> bot*
[01:52] <benyamin> knownasilya: i think that's overheating?
[01:52] <knob> Yet I move two monitors..   Don't know..   It isn't impossibly laggy... just, well, it is not snappy.
[01:52] <knob> What do you guys think I could check/do?
[01:52] <juanp1> Ola k ase
[01:52] <benyamin> knob: Just check the temprature
[01:52] <knownasilya> benyamin: wrong person :)
[01:53] <benyamin> knownasilya: sorry dude :s
[01:53] <Beldar> knob, ubuntu min hardware, theren are other lighter desktops
[01:53] <knob> benyamin, ... mmm...
[01:53] <daftykins> knob: what kind of card? "lspci"
[01:53] <knownasilya> :)
[01:53] <benyamin> knob: how about that?
[01:53] <knob> daftykins, hmm... not sure.    Can I find that via dmesg?
[01:53] <daftykins> knob: see the command i included
[01:53] <knob> benyamin, well, yeah.  I mean, sure.       Yet, she's water cooled, and not overclocked.   She is stock
[01:53] <knob> daftykins, ok... sec
[01:54]  * Beldar loves appropriate nicks
[01:54] <benyamin> knob: when is your ubuntu becoming laggy? running apps or other things?
[01:54] <benyamin> maybe the graphic cards.
[01:54] <knob> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7957090/
[01:54] <daftykins> benyamin: well done for catching up
[01:55] <daftykins> nvidia geforce GT610
[01:55] <benyamin> daftykins: yeah. he have noname graphice card :|
[01:55] <knob> benyamin, mainly when I switch windows, or FireFox/Chrome.     I haven't installed crap on it.   She's pretty much clean.
[01:55] <daftykins> knob: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:55] <knob> That graphics card is moving two monitors... btw
[01:56] <knob> daftykins, she's downloading... although I *think* I had installed pastebinit previously
[01:56] <daftykins> it would just say already installed then
[01:57] <benyamin> knob: she's like your gf right? you sleep with IT *jk*
[01:57] <knob> Yup... pastebinit is already the newest version.
[01:57] <daftykins> benyamin: none of that kind of talk in here thanks.
[01:57] <knob> benyamin, haha... well... I do use it for everything.   Although no games... oddly, never into games myself.
[01:57] <benyamin> daftykins: okay2
[01:57] <knob> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7957100/
[01:58]  * benyamin is kicked at his ass by daftykins
[01:58] <daftykins> knob: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[01:58] <knob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7957108/
[01:59] <knob> dpkg -l   ... that lists all the installed packages?    Going to read the man page...
[01:59] <daftykins> knob: ok so you are using the open source nouveau driver right now, there are two things you can do. 1) check performance with only one screen connected. 2) install the nvidia driver and see if that improves performance.
[01:59] <daftykins> yes it does indeed
[02:00] <knob> daftykins, going to shoot for the nvidia drivers first... if now, I will test it out with one monitor
[02:00] <knob> btw, thanks for all the help everyone.   Very much appreciated :)
[02:00] <daftykins> knob: ok make sure you use a packaged version, no downloading direct from nvidia.
[02:01] <knob> daftykins, I am googling how to go about it now.   10-4 on the no-direct nvidia
[02:01] <daftykins> knob: system settings -> software and sources -> hardware drivers tab
[02:02] <knob> in 14.04 I have System Settings --> Software & Updates
[02:02] <knob> daftykins, got it
[02:03] <daftykins> ah my bad, i never remember the name right
[02:03] <knob> np... 99% same thing
[02:04] <knob> Now it tells me "This device is using an alternative driver".   Then I have variosu options.    Four propietary, and tested.
[02:04] <knob> Any... preferences?
[02:07] <daftykins> knob: nah, experiment! :D
[02:07] <knob> 10-4!  I set out for the first one now... will try that, and report back.
[02:07] <knob> w00t!
[02:09] <knob> brb... gonna reboot her
[02:12] <knob> w00t w00t
[02:12] <knob> First impressions: Perfect!!! Snappy as should be!
[02:12] <knob> :D
[02:14] <daftykins> knob: winner \o/
[02:14] <knob> oh yeah man
[02:14] <knob> defintely
[02:14] <knob> minute 3 first impressions.... THIS is it
[02:14] <knob> Now it's like YEAH!
[02:14] <knob> win/win today... Desktop fixed... Motorcycle Carburetors Fixed...   Life is good.
[02:14] <knob> lol
[02:14] <knob> thanks man
[02:15] <daftykins> np
[02:26] <Jpmh> I am using use bigint and have some numbers that are larger than 32 bits.  How do I use sprintf() to format them on a machine where perl was compiled without 64 bit support?
[02:26] <Jpmh> pls ignore above - intended for #perl
[02:34] <cmtek> ทดสอบ
[02:35] <ramrebol> Hi. Someone uses gnome shell and uses some like "workspace grid" https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/  ?  I'm looking for something like that
[02:35] <eeee> !th | cmtek
[02:35] <TJ-> chmrr: Still about?
[02:38]  * cfhowlett thinks that bot would be a whole lot more useful if it was actually posted in the Thai language ...
[02:38] <daftykins> i agree
[02:39] <somsip> cfhowlett: I guess we'd submit that to one of the ops? I can get it translated...
[02:39] <TJ-> chmrr: fingers crossed; new build on the go: https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/4332432/+listing-archive-extra
[02:40] <cfhowlett> somsip, that would be helpful!  In fact, we really should have  a standard format for ALL the various translations ... nothing like messaging a non-english user in english to be UNhelpful.
[02:41] <somsip> cfhowlett: I'll get Thai done, but up to the ops to cover the rest I think
[02:41] <cfhowlett> somsip, thank you!  Little things like that are more important than you might appreciate.
[02:42] <somsip> cfhowlett: np - OT so over and out :)
[02:42] <TJ-> We should have ircbot-standar-phrases package in the archives, and the translation teams could deal with it automatically :)
[02:43] <cfhowlett> TJ-, OMG!  The logic - it's so overwhelming!  *tears of joy*
[02:43] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I'll put it on my to-do list :)
[02:58] <ramrebol> Is there a way to get a workspace grid in Gnome shell ??
[03:01] <Beldar> ramrebol, you familiar with the extensions, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
[03:07] <Hilikus> there must be some kind of "apt-get update" somewhere in the system that Software Updater does in the background to report new updates. where would this be, it stopped working in mine since i updated to 14.04, now updates are not checked until i manually open the Software Updater
[03:08] <cfhowlett> Hilikus, system > update manager settings
[03:12] <chmrr> TJ-: Thanks -- I'll keep an eye on the builds
[03:12] <ramrebol> Beldar: I'm trying to install that, but dont works. I suposse that is because is outdated
[03:13] <chmrr> TJ-: Any idea why those didn't trigger for the previous build?
[03:13] <TJ-> chmrr: I'm hoping my fixes for the previous patches will deal with the test-suite failure... can't be sure until it completes though, it's weird stuff
[03:13] <TJ-> chmrr: No idea, but the main archive builders can have things like tests ignored
[03:14] <TJ-> chmrr: Once this is done, I'm going to build the .14 without any changes here and see if it does build or not, to be certain
[03:14] <Beldar> ramrebol, Possibly so, you might run a search for another, the extensions are user made so are available when people contribute.
[03:15] <TJ-> chmrr: I'm wondering though, how the update can be applied, if apt-get is SIGSEGV-ing
[03:15] <chmrr> TJ-: Hm.  Except upstream _did_ take the memmem change as-is.  And IIRC there are other feof() calls already in there
[03:15] <ala-lala> chmrr: (off-topic) Where did you get your nick from?
[03:15] <chmrr> TJ-: I'll scp it and dpkg -i it
[03:15] <chmrr> ala-lala: Star Control II
[03:15] <ala-lala> I got mine from that too.
[03:16] <ala-lala> I totally love that game.
[03:16] <ramrebol> Beldar:
[03:16] <ramrebol> I have looked for another, but I found none.
[03:16] <chmrr> What, an Arilou name? :)
[03:16] <TJ-> chmrr: I know you can, but the archive updates need to be possible without manual intervention... I'm thinking a pre-inst script that simply removes "/etc/services" out of the way until the update is done. If the file isn't there, the memory won't be allocated
[03:16] <ala-lala> No
[03:16] <ala-lala> A Supox name.
[03:16] <ala-lala> It's the name of the supox captain you first meet.
[03:16] <chmrr> <3 me some Supox.
[03:16] <TJ-> chmrr: I'll test that in a VM tomorrow once I've made some progress
[03:17] <Beldar> ramrebol, Ah, I guess the web is your oyster grasshopper. ;)
[03:17] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeaaaaaah, I don't know how to automatically fix folks who get into my state.  The problem is you can't get as far as _getting_ any pre-insta script if apt-get horks.
[03:18] <TJ-> chmrr:  Are you able to test the bug itself now, by simply renaming "/etc/services" and seeing if the SIGSEGV still happens?
[03:18] <chmrr> Sure; one sec.
[03:19] <TJ-> chmrr: Thanks, if that works we can add to the pre-inst script
[03:19] <chmrr> TJ-: No dice; same failure
[03:19] <TJ-> chmrr: Darn!
[03:20] <TJ-> chmrr: maybe nsswitch needs changing to just "file" temporarily, too ?
[03:20] <TJ-> chmrr: my thinking then is, it will only look for /etc/services, which won't exist, so it'll return
[03:20] <chmrr> Nope.  It's already just "db files"
[03:20] <TJ-> chmrr: Grrr :p
[03:21] <TJ-> chmrr: try loosing the "db"
[03:21] <chmrr> I did, and both with and without /etc/services it's the same
[03:21] <chmrr> :/
[03:21] <TJ-> chmrr: OK ... build completed :)
[03:22] <chmrr> Looks like sa sadface on amd64. :/
[03:23] <TJ-> chmrr: Yeah, it's not being very friendly to us
[03:24] <chmrr> Looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/181542570/eglibc_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.15_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.15~tj1.diff.gz , I'm not convinced strstr is right, there.  the "slashdot" tring isn't null-terminated
[03:25] <junlin> quit
[03:25] <junlin> what is this
[03:26] <somsip> junlin: try "/quit"
[03:27] <Basketball> how can i install the gnome software center
[03:27] <TJ-> chmrr: Darn! I meant to add a 0 to the end of slashdot!
[03:29] <chmrr> I'm also just unsude of that change in general -- upstream still contains the memmem, and its localplt doesn't contain memmem
[03:29] <OrthodoxiOS> hello
[03:29] <TJ-> chmrr: Once it fails here I can check the diffs see if any other functions are exposed in the plt
[03:29] <chmrr> s/unsude/unsure/
[03:29] <ala-lala> heh
[03:30] <TJ-> chmrr: There's something strange. A build of the plain .14 will help here
[03:31] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah, I think that'd be the most interesting thing at this point.
[03:31] <OrthodoxiOS> havent been on in ages
[03:31] <user123321> Any suggestion for a good program for compressing/splitting files (with GUI)?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> user123321, what kind of files do you mean
[03:32] <user123321> cfhowlett, As of now, I want to store 4GB+ files in a fat32 with splitting, compression is an added advantage.
[03:32] <greeter> greetings everyone. multiple ssl enabled sites aren't loading for me, because of an ssl handshake failure. it isn't every website, and i can't seem to find help online, most documents troubleshoot ssl issues in httpd or similar. any ideas where i can start to look for the issue?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> user123321, not how much ... what KIND? audio, video???
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Basketball: Check out: apt-cache show software-properties-gtk, that seems to be compatible with most releases. To install -> sudo apt-get install software-properties-gtk <- .
[03:33] <TJ-> chmrr: It fails on the main builders.... check the log search for "Testsuite failures" https://launchpadlibrarian.net/180981194/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.eglibc_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[03:33] <user123321> cfhowlett, Any kind of file
[03:33] <cfhowlett> user123321, got it.
[03:34] <Basketball> Bashing-om,  that doesnt install it
[03:34] <cfhowlett> user123321, "archive manager" does that, does it not?
[03:34] <chmrr> TJ-: Fascinating.  Yeah, OK, I think we can file this as "not our problem" then, as long as it doesn't fail any _additional_ changes.
[03:35] <user123321> cfhowlett, Oh does it? I'll check it, since I'm having LUbuntu.
[03:36] <TJ-> chmrr: Yeah... back to the original patch then!
[03:36] <TJ-> chmrr: But, still can't build it unless we can figure out how they suppress the build errors
[03:37] <Bashing-om> Basketball: I did not want it // but I just did install it ... do not know what I can say .. what errors are you getting ?
[03:38] <Basketball> Bashing-om,  software-properties-gtk is already the newest version.
[03:38] <Basketball> software-properties-gtk set to manually installed.
[03:38] <Basketball>    
[03:38] <user123321> Oh, I already have archive manager. :D
[03:38] <chmrr> TJ-: I suspect that ubuntu-security will know the right incants in that regard.  Have you heard back from them at all?
[03:39] <chmrr> I'm currently compiling upstream to see if it passes its own localplt test
[03:39] <fsof> TJ-: there?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Basketball: What is held ? -> apt-mark showholds <- .
[03:40] <fsof> Also, have anyone in here used ubuntus signed bootloader to load other distros?
[03:41] <TJ-> chmrr: Not so far
[03:41] <Basketball> Bashing-om,  how do i run that
[03:42] <Beldar> fsof, The bootloader I believe is open source others use it.
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Basketball: "apt-mark showholds" is a terminal command to list what the package manager has marked as "manual" ..let's look .
[03:42] <TJ-> chmrr: That builder log I linked you to last, that *was* the upstream build as uploaded by the security team
[03:42] <fsof> Beldar: yes, but the kernel of other distros may not be signed
[03:42] <Beldar> fsof, Err a dollar was paid to fork it anyway I think
[03:42] <fsof> Beldar: can the signed loader load unsigned kernels?
[03:42] <Beldar> no idea
[03:42] <Basketball> Bashing-om,  it doesnt show anything
[03:43] <fsof> Beldar: a dollar?
[03:43] <chmrr> TJ-: That was the latest security release from Ubuntu, I thought.  I mean straight from glibc's git repo.
[03:43] <Nonato> Ahhh
[03:43] <Nonato>  intente instalar tres ubuntus
[03:43] <Nonato>  y ....
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Basketball: In that case look at the setting in software center, see what they are set too .
[03:43] <Nonato> me kede con hayra
[03:43] <Beldar> fsof, You will have to check the net on the history of it.
[03:44] <Beldar> Nonato, English?
[03:44] <Nonato> yeah
[03:44] <fsof> TJ-: i found out why gnome3.12 had no networking using the gnome3 teams ppa
[03:44] <Nonato>  I try to install three ubuntu but I cant
[03:45] <Nonato>  so ... now ... Iam using hayra
[03:45] <Nonato>  :(
[03:45] <Beldar> Nonato, English channel there are locals of other languages if needed.
[03:45] <rimdeker> Hey guys, how come an init.d process of mine doesn't start? It doesn't give any errors or anything either
[03:45] <rimdeker> it does create a .pid file
[03:45] <rimdeker> but then nothing
[03:45] <Nonato> If you can read I am writing in english
[03:45] <Nonato>  thanks for said that someone else
[03:47] <fsof> Beldar: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=err+a+dollar+was+paid+to+fork+it&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1
[03:47] <fsof> Beldar: nothing stands out
[03:48] <TJ-> chmrr: Precisely. That log - with its failed test-suite - shows it continued to build even after the test-suite failures, and generated the binaries that were copied into the main archive. I have no idea how to reproduce that ignoring the failure
[03:48] <TJ-> chmrr: the link to the build status page that in turn links to that log is here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6221477
[03:50] <chmrr> TJ-: Yeah, I get that somehow the release team's build of -0ubuntu7.14 kept right on going despite the test failures, and we don't know how to emulate that.  I'm currently curious about the introduction of memmem into the upstream glibc.git repo, and how that has _ever_ passed their localplt test
[03:51] <Beldar> fsof, probably closer, that was some terrible foo you used. http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/linux-foundation-secure-boot-system-released/
[03:51] <chmrr> Determining to finish the build despite the test failures is the more productive thing to do, but one that I have precisely zero insight into; hence why I'm poking at the underlying localplt problem
[03:52] <TJ-> chmrr: I followed the upstream guidance on tracking down and fixing the PLT entries
[03:53] <fsof> Beldar: terrible foo as specifically?
[03:53] <Beldar> Nonato, The key here is clear details for help.
[03:54] <chmrr> TJ-: The wiki I linked to?  Right.  Except the memmem is _still_ in HEAD of glibc.git, and it's not in the localplt file.  Sooo do the upstream devs not care about their trunk not passing tests, as well?
[03:54] <Beldar> fsof, You just quoted what I said with no reference to secure boot...etc. All of what I said was a I think scenario anyway
[03:55] <TJ-> chmrr: It seems that way doesn't it? but if so, why is the package build allowed to fail - why no patch to explicitly allow it, like the other patches that do similar
[03:55] <Nonato> i have some problems to instal ubuntu 8.10
[03:55] <Nonato>  or 8.04
[03:56] <Nonato> someone knows abut ubuntu that can run with 500 mg ram
[03:56] <Nonato>  :(
[03:56] <Beldar> Nonato, Those are end of life you want 12.04 or 14.04
[03:56] <OerHeks> Lubuntu can
[03:56] <Beldar> Nonato, Go xubuntu or lubuntu
[03:56] <Nonato> I know
[03:56] <Nonato>  I have once 12.04
[03:57] <Nonato>  but now I cant buy an a new computer
[03:58] <Nonato> I will thin about it
[03:58] <Nonato>  did u know about hayra?
[03:59] <TJ-> chmrr: OK, I've figured out why the sbuild from the repos doesn't match what is in the builders! The package sbuild provides /usr/bin/sbuild (a PERL script) whereas the sbuild in the builder is a Python script from the repo launchpad-buildd
[04:00] <Beldar> Nonato, Do you understand Portuguese I see no Galician channels, your english is rather broken is all.
[04:00] <TJ-> chmrr: correction, a different PERL script in launchpad-buildd
[04:00] <Nonato> My english is perfect
[04:01] <Etiziel> how to i update the hwe stack on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:01] <Beldar> Nonato, If you say so, just trying to make sure you get help. ;)
[04:01] <Beldar> the attitude sucks though
[04:02]  * Beldar says ban the machismo
[04:02] <Nonato> definitly
[04:02] <Nonato> go to stude
[04:05] <Etiziel> I logged into my server and it is saying that the HWE is going out of support, how to I install a newer version?
[04:09] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[04:09] <daftykins> Etiziel: ^
[04:09] <Etiziel> I got that, but the instructions to upgrade from the tool say apt-get install ...but thats is :/
[04:10] <Ardkad> Hello guys, i want to upgrade a recent compiled program. Can i overrride the instalation or need i unistal the previous version first?
[04:10] <Etiziel> thats it*
[04:10] <dinca> buna
[04:10] <dinca> se vb si romana
[04:10] <dinca> am nevoie de ajutor
[04:10] <dinca> bunaaaaaaaaaa
[04:10] <Etiziel> the wiki says to follow the tool which says to execute "apt-get install"  I'm at a loss
[04:10] <dinca> helllo
[04:12] <daftykins> dinca: where are you from? Romania?
[04:12] <Beldar> !ro | dinca
[04:12] <dinca> si cum intru ca nu stiu
[04:13] <dinca> yes i from romania
[04:13] <dinca> and i need a plugin
[04:13] <dinca> and i cant instal
[04:13] <dinca> sry for me bad english
[04:13] <daftykins> dinca: join #ubuntu-ro
[04:14] <dinca> hello
[04:14] <dinca> someone here for help me?
[04:16] <dinca> what'
[04:16] <daftykins> dinca: we told you twice to join another channel
[04:17] <daftykins> and gone.
[04:26] <Etiziel> anyone know if this will fix my hwe problem or break my sever? http://www.leaseweblabs.com/2013/07/upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-kernel-to-3-4/
[04:29] <alje> I am trying to boot a separate distro, problem is that its root fs is btrfs but it has btrfs-tools installed
[04:29] <wulong710> hello . when i use command nemo in terminal to open a folder, it is always occurse some warning. Anyone can give me suggestion? error log here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237963&p=13090919#post13090919
[04:30] <alje> is it possible to install it *into* it from a separate distro or possible to install from setup/rescue?
[04:32] <daftykins> !chroot | alje
[04:38] <jaynext> everyone down
[04:38] <jaynext> down !
[04:38] <jaynext> down |
[04:40] <YokoBR> Guys, seriously, pulseaudio sucks.
[04:44] <Loshki> YokoBR: we know.
[04:45] <YokoBR> too many conflicts.. everytime i have to start the game first, then teamspeak, and hope it doesn't crash
[04:46] <APL3> Hi ! I have a 64 bits capable computer (Core 2 Duo) but 2Gb of ram and no plan to ever add more. What are the pro and con of 64 bits Ubuntu over 32 bits ?
[04:46] <Etiziel> found HWE answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/493541/hardware-enablement-stack-hwe-out-of-support
[04:46] <YokoBR> Right before ubuntu officially moved to pulse, alsa was becoming so stable and nice.... for the 3, 4 releases after that i've removed pulse...
[04:48] <greeter> pulse started off horrible for me. it's much improved now. only thing it interferes with is skype, which i rarely use
[04:49] <Loshki> I used to do this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html. I haven't needed for a couple of LTSes now...
[04:49] <Loshki> haven't needed for -> haven't needed to for
[05:06] <metaspike> http://pastebin.com/jMwen0KN
[05:06] <metaspike> pulseaudio, resume from pm-suspend
[05:07] <Your_Dog> hello, just attempted to upgrade 13.04 to 14.04. Unfortunately it failed and i would like to know if there are ways to fix it
[05:07] <metaspike> "it failed?" can u be more specific...
[05:07] <metaspike> when does it fail
[05:07] <Your_Dog> after it downloaded the updates, during the installing update phase
[05:08] <Your_Dog> it told me about failed package and my system will become unusable
[05:09] <metaspike> did you follow a guide or just try your own method to upgrade?
[05:10] <Your_Dog> well i didnt follow the guide, i just use the updater it has bundled on
[05:10] <Your_Dog> since i wanted to get firefox 31 and 13.04 doesnt have it
[05:11] <Your_Dog> so i decided to upgrade
[05:11] <metaspike> .. that sucks. any custom repos?
[05:11] <Your_Dog> well yeah but not by alot
[05:12] <Your_Dog> its just code::blocks and aside from that is a ps2 emulator
[05:12] <metaspike> because third party repositories may be incompatible with the new version, you should remove them first, then try to upgrade. you will loose whatever came with them of course
[05:13] <Your_Dog> well yeah the updater did warn me that and it did it for me
[05:14] <Your_Dog> right now since it failed halfway with the update, i cant boot the system, my only choices are reinstall the os or find a fix
[05:14] <Your_Dog> i tried some methods like sudo dpkg --configure a
[05:14] <Your_Dog> but it says that those programs are readonly
[05:14] <metaspike> you need to do something to make it read/write
[05:15] <metaspike> from safemode
[05:15] <metaspike> maybe: mount -o remount,rw /
[05:15] <metaspike> then, dpkg-reconfigure --all
[05:16] <Your_Dog> ok doing it
[05:17] <metaspike> then tap your heels together
[05:18] <metaspike> and say "there's no place like home"
[05:18] <mojach> nono... no place like 127.0.0.1
[05:18] <metaspike> :)
[05:20] <Your_Dog> hmmh
[05:20] <Your_Dog> right now everything went fine till
[05:20] <Your_Dog> /sbin/start-stop-daemon: unable to chdir() to /root (permission denied)
[05:20] <Your_Dog> but im on root
[05:20] <Your_Dog> lol
[05:21] <kevinfish> how do I fix this?  http://pastebin.com/wRnuaTkz
[05:21] <metaspike> hmm maybe just "apt-get install" would have been less slegehammerish
[05:23] <Your_Dog> can't, it tells me that package lists or status faile could not be parsed or open
[05:23] <Bashing-om> kevinfish: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main" raring is End_Of_Life. Disable the repository. and now what results -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- ?
[05:24] <metaspike> Your_Dog, apt-get clean
[05:25] <metaspike> or sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[05:25] <metaspike> erm. rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[05:25] <Your_Dog> ok we seem have the problem
[05:25] <Your_Dog> both gives me errors
[05:26] <Your_Dog> but the latter, tells me in detail that we can do it because its read-only file system
[05:26] <Your_Dog> can't*
[05:26] <Beldar> metaspike, click your heels, this ain't kansas anymore.
[05:26] <Your_Dog> lol
[05:27] <Bashing-om> kevinfish: Are you in fact running the 13.04 ( raring) release ?
[05:30] <metaspike> Your_Dog, mount -o remount,rw / , is supposed to fix that ... hmmm
[05:30] <Your_Dog> i know which is wierd
[05:31] <Your_Dog> ill try this, restart computer and redo those commands :D
[05:31] <metaspike> nah
[05:32] <metaspike> Your_Dog, sudo su
[05:33] <metaspike> mount -o remount,rw / !
[05:33] <metaspike> ignore the !
[05:33] <metaspike> more like... sudo su -
[05:33] <Your_Dog> ok now its back on track after apt-get install
[05:35] <metaspike> choice... i often think linux systems should have boot mode just for dist-upgrade
[05:35] <metaspike> if you want to try upgrading from console try "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:35] <metaspike> anyway gtg
[05:36] <Your_Dog> alright
[05:36] <Your_Dog> ty
[05:37] <metaspike> np
[05:37] <Your_Dog> well atm everything is fine so i guess later it would be back to normal
[05:37] <Your_Dog> its just that its doing the same processes on console instead of the updater
[05:38] <Bashing-om> metaspike: Your_Dog //If I may remind yall to check the source.list .. as the old one no longer exists for the software repository .
[05:38] <metaspike> good point
[05:39] <metaspike> make sure your sources make sense for a d-u, and maybe do it from "recovery mode with networking" to be safe
[05:39] <Your_Dog> ok will check
[05:40] <Your_Dog> well from what i see
[05:40] <Your_Dog> the sources it uses are from 14.04
[05:43] <kostodo> I need to create 2 users who will be able to fully manage files inside /var/www
[05:43] <kostodo> Whats the best way of going about that
[05:43] <Bashing-om> Your_Dog: metaspike :: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d directoty also .
[05:43] <kostodo> Both users will be web developers who will have to upload files there, delete them, change, edit, etc.
[05:44] <Beldar>  Your_Dog this command will list all sources. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[05:45] <Your_Dog> well atm
[05:45] <Your_Dog> i cant do anything
[05:45] <Your_Dog> aside to wait for apt-get install to finish
[05:46] <metaspike> it takes longer if you watch the kettle boil
[05:46] <Your_Dog> yeah sure does
[05:46]  * Beldar imagines Zippy the Pinhead watching the dryer spin
[05:47] <metaspike> kostodo, the BEST way would be to have /var/www on a seperate partition
[05:47] <metaspike> and mount those with proper access in fstab
[05:49] <metaspike> then make that the root dir of their access channels
[05:49] <kostodo> metaspike: Its not so much security that I’m concerned with. Its more that I want two different users to be able to seamlessly work on the files together
[05:49] <kostodo> metaspike: in the past often end up with permission errors
[05:50] <kostodo> if one user made files the other couldnt access them
[05:51] <punkgeek> any body can help me how to set domain dns on apache?
[05:52] <metaspike> besides basic file change notifications from the IDE itself, i don't know anyway around that, besides a proper svn or git setup
[05:53] <svetlana> punkgeek, what's your question? there is #httpd, but they require you to register with nickserv to speak.
[05:56] <blackyboy> Using Ubuntu 14.04 After upgrading to kernel version 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Audio not working, before it worked fine.
[05:57] <Your_Dog> metaspike: it sems everything is done
[05:57] <Your_Dog> what do i do now? restart?
[05:59] <Your_Dog> actually nevermind, everything work :D!
[06:00] <Tex_Nick> blackyboy:  you've checked "sound settings/output tab" ?
[06:00] <Your_Dog> metaspike: Bashing-om: Beldar  thanks guys
[06:00] <blackyboy> Tex_Nick: yes its there but only i cant hear the sound
[06:00] <euxneks> howdy
[06:01] <babu> if I disable telnet, will the other services be disrupted
[06:02] <babu> i intend to do for security reasons
[06:02] <blackyboy> Tex_Nick: its worked thanks , there are two options as S/PDIF and Analog , by default it chooses S/PDIF now i have changed it to analog and working :) thanks once again.
[06:03] <Bashing-om> Your_Dog: Who says clicking-your-heels does not work : P
[06:04] <Your_Dog> ll
[06:04] <Tex_Nick> blackyboy:  good going man ... yoyr welcome :)
[06:09] <br_oken> Help : I clicked "Forget device" on my Android in Clementine's device list and now Ubuntu will not see my Android when I plug it on USB
[06:09] <br_oken> it won't work in Win XP either. Android and clementine channels aren't much responsive
[06:21] <konrad1> kk
[06:32] <cazalla> can anyone help me identify why my mouse sensitivity settings change randomly?
[06:33] <cazalla> it usually occurs after i stop using the mouse and then i need to reconfigure it in terminal with xinput --set-prop "Razer Razer DeathAdder" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2
[06:35] <anstan> can anyone advise me on how know how to restart cmus when given the message "cmus is already listening on socket /home/me/.cmus/socket"  i tried pkilling the cmus process to no avail
[06:35] <mupp> cazalla: Does the problem remain if you use a different mouse?
[06:35]  * ala-lala beams out into the sleeping chamber
[06:35] <cazalla> mupp, unable to test as these are the only mice i have
[06:36] <cazalla> it only began with 14.04.1
[06:48] <Beldar> cazalla, Here is a change summary take a look. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1
[06:53] <Beldar> cazalla, Have you tried the guest account?
[06:53] <cazalla> Beldar, thanks, i'll take a look through it and no, i will try guest account and see if same thing occurs
[06:55] <Beldar> cazalla, You can even make another user as a standard no sudo or an admin with sudo.
[06:55] <Beldar> just as a test all this is.
[07:00] <santo> I'm running Ubuntu Trusty 14.04 on a new machine with 8GB of RAM, and it seems to be locking up periodically and nothing is in syslog file. I've installed Nagios and have been watching the graphs, and it looks like memory is going high from 7% to 72% in just a span of 10 mins. Only node process are running on server. In top I found all process are running very normal memory consumption. Even after stopping node process. Memory remains 
[07:04] <Beldar> cazalla, I found this. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/razer
[07:05] <Beldar> this http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4NTQ
[07:06] <Beldar> cazalla, Might be worth you just looking at this google search. https://www.google.com/search?q=Razer+DeathAdder+linux&btnG=Search&hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&gbv=1
[07:08] <Beldar> cazalla, lots on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Razer+DeathAdder
[07:10] <Beldar> santo, Full server, you must X right for Nagios?
[07:14] <Meerkat> https://login.launchpad.net/ Can I login with my old launchpad account here?
[07:17] <excalibr> I just noticed that all alert sounds in Sound applet have disappeared, leaving only the default one. I dont know if Ive unknowingly deleted all them all or 14.04 doesnt ship extra alert sounds.
[07:17] <excalibr> Meerkat, just try it
[07:21] <tiny> After a painful upgrade from 10.10 Maverick to 11.04 natty laptop just powers off at booting OS.
[07:21] <tiny> How do I get some verbosity from bootloader?
[07:22] <tiny> I also tried with fresh install of 14.04 LTS but nothing shows up after DVD "boots" ... blank screen
[07:23] <tiny> DVD works on other laptop
[07:23] <Beldar> tiny, Technically only 12.04 and 14.04 are supported any other is not calling the ubuntu repos
[07:24] <tiny> Beldar: yes, I used old-releases.ubuntu.com repo
[07:24] <Beldar> tiny, Did you check the 14.04's sum and or try a nomodeset boot?
[07:24] <tiny> anyway ... it's weird that laptop just shuts off after BIOS handles it to grub/OS
[07:25] <tiny> Beldar: DVD works on another laptop, hmm nomodeset, that could be the cause
[07:25] <Beldar> tiny, old-releases do not have the updates
[07:26] <tiny> Beldar: yes, I was trying to avoid fresh install... since 10.10 wasn't supported and the only way to get to latest releases is trough 11.04 -> 11.10 ... current
[07:26] <tiny> anyway ... how do I set nomodeset?
[07:26] <tiny> /etc/grub.d/...
[07:26] <tiny> ?
[07:27] <Beldar> tiny, Sure, what is the gaphic hardware and have you looked on the web with any of the releases and otyher hardware or computer model?
[07:27] <Beldar> !nomodeset | tiny
[07:28] <Beldar> tiny, is the install grub legacy or grub 2
[07:28] <neo1691> I want to swap my caps key with esc. I have modified my /etc/default/keyboard accordingly and then using dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, I am able to swap the keys correctly. only problem is that the changes are lost on a reboot. Any help
[07:29] <tiny> Beldar: I think it's grub2, stuff is stored in /etc/grub.d/ (I hate grub btw, it became an uncontrollable monster)
[07:29] <tiny> I use isolinux on mine
[07:30] <Beldar> tiny, grub is simple and  /etc/grub.d/ is not where you mess with it.
[07:30] <tiny> grub is everything but simple ... who want's to play with configuration of bootloader? It should just load the OS and that's it.
[07:31] <eeee> neo1691: just use xmodmap and set it in ~/.profile
[07:31] <tiny> time is precious
[07:31] <tiny> Beldar: anyway, thanks I will look into setting that option
[07:31] <Beldar> tiny, your preaching yet have no working OS.
[07:31] <neo1691> eeee: ok, I am using bspwm so the autostart file should also work, I guess
[07:31] <Beldar> may have been a simple nomodeset on 14.04
[07:31] <tiny> Beldar: I have couple hounder working Linux OSes, thank you
[07:31] <Beldar> and driver installs
[07:32] <tiny> houndred*
[07:32] <tiny> so how do you set nomodeset on live DVD? :)
[07:32] <Beldar> welcome to the club. ;)
[07:32] <Beldar> read the link
[07:32] <tiny> ok, ok
[07:32] <eeee> neo1691: i guess, if it doesn't the command is  xmodmap -e "keycode 66=Escape"
[07:33] <tiny> link says "If you boot ubuntu from a livecd (or USB stick), right after the bios splash screen you will get a purple screen with a keyboard logo at the bottom:"
[07:33] <tiny> I get no such thing
[07:33] <Guido1> hello, I want to buy a switch and a ethernet PCI card. is there a side where i can compare companyes? (Which company makes better switches etc.)
[07:33] <Guido1> (i want to buy a gigabit PCI ethernet card and a switch, but don't have a lot of money. I want that it is relyable and works several years. So which brand would be good? Maybe TP-link? I also have no idea what the advantage is of a managed switch.)
[07:33] <Guido1> 09:17:47 - U kunt geen berichten sturen naar ##hardware.
[07:34] <Beldar> tiny, Do you get the try ubuntu install or memory check options
[07:34] <tiny> nope
[07:34] <Beldar> that is what you should see with a disc boot
[07:35] <tiny> I know, but I don't even get the chance to setup grub options
[07:35] <Beldar> some usb loaders bypass that gui
[07:37] <tiny> Beldar: any key combo that stops booting process and displays grub in text mode?
[07:37] <Beldar> tiny, On an install or live?
[07:38] <tiny> 14.04 LTS install
[07:38] <Beldar> tiny, shift
[07:38] <tiny> btw, isn't install=live?
[07:38] <tiny> hmm, tried shift already i believe ...
[07:38]  * tiny tries again
[07:38] <Beldar> read the question
[07:39] <Beldar> or or or or
[07:39] <nrdb2> I am trying to get heartbeat etc. going ... unsuccessfully :-( ... The initial config I am using is at http://pastebin.com/EdUEEj8q ... can anyone tell me why this isn't working ... I believe it should say the nodes are online.
[07:50] <cazalla> Beldar, ty for the leads
[07:50] <Beldar> cazalla, No prob.
[07:51] <jnhghy> I've made some bad things with my apt sources and now I can't seem to be able to install "default" software like lynx my sources seem to be lost, any idea how I can go back to the default ubuntu 12.04 sources?
[07:52] <tiny> Beldar: thanks for help, I somehow got trough to booting in safe mode from HD. I couldn't boot from LTS DVD though even if I pressed shift key. It just threw me into HD boot...
[07:53] <tiny> anyway ... I'm upgrading atm... to oneiric
[07:53] <Beldar> tiny, cool, might just need graphic drivers a udate/upgrade
[07:53] <ddv> nrdb2: read the logs
[07:53] <Beldar> or update/upgrade*
[08:03] <Beldar> jnhghy, This works ave what you have then use this to make a new one. Any changes to sources.list.d ? http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:03] <Beldar> save*
[08:07] <terminator> what is the channel for netware os?
[08:08] <Beldar> !alis | terminator
[08:09] <Raboo> hi
[08:09] <Isvara> I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 to a SanDisk SSD. I'm trying to scp across some DVD images, and performance drops by about 90% after a few megabyte. Writes in general are slow, slow, slow.
[08:10] <Isvara> I've run fstrim, and I've added discard in my fstab. Neither of those have helped.
[08:10] <Raboo> I have a server that hangs randomly, I've installed linux-crashdump and kexec_crash is loaded. But when my machine hangs i got no dump in /var/crash
[08:11] <Raboo> what is my next step?
[08:11] <Isvara> scp has gone from 60MB/s to 4MB/s :-/
[08:11] <jasabella>  /last mtrr
[08:11] <jasabella> er
[08:12] <Raboo> Isvara maybe it's an network issue or iptables issue
[08:12] <Raboo> have you done a local copy to that ssd to see if it drops when files doesn't go thru network
[08:13] <trijntje> Isvara: try dd if=/dev/zero of=empty_file bs=1M count=10240, that will create an empty file 10GB in size, how long does that take?
[08:14] <Isvara> It's all writes. I'm using that as an example because the files are big enough for it to be dramatic (and it happens to show the transfer speed.)
[08:14] <jasabella> hi
[08:15] <jasabella> how do i 'fix' my mtrr?
[08:15] <Isvara> trijntje: That would take all night! So far up to 114MB...
[08:16] <Isvara> 200MB
[08:17] <tiny> Isvara: you should use "conv=fdatasync" or "oflag=dsync " with that dd command to ensure syncing to disk before dd(1) returns.
[08:17] <trijntje> Isvara: that is slow, but I don't know what could be the issue. Just let the command run so you have a good measurement, if you mention scp everybody is gonna think its because of the network ;)
[08:18] <tiny> I'd also use bigger block size ...
[08:18] <Isvara> I'm pretty sure this is specifically an SSD issue. Reads are as fast as you'd expect.
[08:18] <tiny> Isvara: so have you ran the dd command?
[08:19] <Isvara> tiny: I did. It's about at about 500MB so far.
[08:20] <tiny> I see. That's _slow_!
[08:21] <tdm4> hi.. all my 10.04 machines upgraded libc to 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14 and now lots of apps are breaking. Including apt-get
[08:21] <tdm4> anyone know about this?
[08:21] <tdm4> or how to fix?
[08:22] <tdm4> Getting: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: ...
[08:25] <Isvara> tiny: Actually, there's a bunch of nastiness in dmesg too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7959215/
[08:26] <Isvara> Am I reading that right? Is it actually using PIO?
[08:30] <m_> quit
[08:34] <zetheroo1> is there something like htop for network traffic?
[08:35] <Isvara> zetheroo1: There's ntop
[08:35] <tdm4> guys: libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.14 is totally and absolutely BROKEN
[08:36] <tdm4> I had to downgrade to libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.13 to fix my old 10.04 machines
[08:36] <six86> Hello. Is there a way to drop to a console or something while preseed late_command is running? It hangs somewhere but i can't see where
[08:36] <hateball> zetheroo1: there's also nethogs
[08:37] <Isvara> zetheroo1: Actually, I think iptraf is the one I used to use.
[08:37] <tiny> Isvara: looks like it yes, SSD on PATA channel
[08:38] <Isvara> tiny: hdparm -i says it's using udma1, though.
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.386321] ata5: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xf000 irq 14
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.386323] ata6: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xf008 irq 15
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.378026] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m1024@0xfeb0b000 port 0xfeb0b100 irq 19
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.378029] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m1024@0xfeb0b000 port 0xfeb0b180 irq 19
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.378031] ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m1024@0xfeb0b000 port 0xfeb0b200 irq 19
[08:38] <tiny> [    1.378034] ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m1024@0xfeb0b000 port 0xfeb0b280 irq 19
[08:39] <unopaste> tiny you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:40] <tiny> [    1.562373] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33
[08:41] <nrdb2> ddv, this is what syslog has in it.  http://pastebin.com/EdUEEj8q
[08:41] <tiny> Isvara: PATA SSD?
[08:42] <Isvara> tiny: No, SATA
[08:43] <tiny> Isvara: connect it to other SATA channel 1-4
[08:43] <tiny> and try again
[08:44] <Isvara> Yeah, I think I'll dig out another cable, too.
[08:46] <nrdb2> I am trying to get heartbeat etc. going ... unsuccessfully :-( ... The initial config I am using is at http://pastebin.com/EdUEEj8q ... can anyone tell me why this isn't working ... I believe it should say the nodes are online... is that true?  .... syslog is ... http://pastebin.com/EdUEEj8q .... can anyone help
[08:51] <tiny> nrdb2: clustering is a big topic :)  afaik heartbeat is/will be obsolete
[08:53] <nrdb2> tiny, do you have a reference, I am tying to setup IP fallover.  all links I have found use heartbeat.
[08:54] <tiny> nrdb2: yes I do, it also uses heartbeat. I was pointed to a very good howto. There's also a channel on freenode. Can't remember though. Here's a link: https://alteeve.ca/w/AN!Cluster_Tutorial_2
[08:56] <tdm4> what is the name of the UBuntu devs channel?
[08:56] <tdm4> I want to tell them about libc6 being completely broken
[08:56] <acerimmer> !dev|tdm4,
[08:56] <acerimmer> tdm4, #ubuntu-dev iirc but they'll likely direct you to file a bug
[08:57] <tdm4> trying to remember if I still have a launchpad account
[09:00] <Isvara> tiny: I changed port and cable a couple of times and it seems to be working now.
[09:01] <tiny> Isvara: great, looks like ata ports 5,6 are configured as parallel or something like that.
[09:02] <Isvara> tiny: That'd be an entirely different connector and cable, though. I'm hoping it was just the cables. They're easiest to replace.
[09:03] <tiny> wow, upgrade continues: maverick -> natty -> oneiric -> precise
[09:03] <tiny> If I end up with a working system I'll write a blog :)
[09:04] <tiny> Father in law uses it. I must prove myself worthy :)
[09:10] <andybrine> Morning Everyone
[09:10] <acerimmer> andybrine, sez u.  tis dinner time here in Beijing.  Greetings anyway.  ask your questions.
[09:10] <andybrine> Greetings
[09:10] <andybrine> :)
[09:11] <andybrine> I have a quick question. I have installed gnome 3 on ubuntu and have gone back to unity and the desktop wallpaper is not working
[09:12] <andybrine> does anyone know what would be causing that?
[09:13] <acerimmer> andybrine, probably need to reconfigure your unity wallpaper settings
[09:14] <andybrine> acerimmer, what do I need to do to reconfigure? When I try to change it, its not working
[09:14] <tdm4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1352504
[09:14] <tdm4> ahh somoene else reported it
[09:14] <tdm4> and yeah we run nscd because of LDAP auth.. ah well
[09:15] <tdm4> downgrading libc fixed it :)
[09:15] <acerimmer> andybrine, I'm in UbuntuStudio so ... different arrangement of toys.  Ask again in channel.
[09:15] <andybrine> ok, thanks tdm4
[09:15] <andybrine> no problem, acerimmer. Thanks!
[09:21] <nishantjr_> Hi, Any idea how I can turn off auto-gain on the mic?
[09:22] <nishantjr_> Hi, Any idea how I can turn off auto-gain on the mic?
[09:24] <slitux___> nishantjr: do you have alsamixer ?
[09:27] <dmatt> HI, any idea why simple command added into rc.local does not execute on startup?
[09:28] <somsip> dm what is the command?
[09:28] <somsip> dmatt: ^^^
[09:28] <dmatt> echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio
[09:29] <nishantjr_> @slitux___ Yes, but when I change the setting there nothing happens in the pulseaudio verbose logs
[09:29] <Sneaksafe> probably a nub question, but my QBit keeps closing automatically after 5 mins of being open any ideas why?
[09:30] <slitux___> @nishantjr: did you change both "Mic" and "Mic Boost" settings ?
[09:30] <dmatt> somsip: hm, I was under impression rc.local is executed by root
[09:31] <somsip> dmatt: same here
[09:31] <nishantjr_> @slitux___: This sound card only has PCM, Mic and "Auto Gain Control"
[09:32] <nishantjr_> @slitux___: and the AGC does nothing in the logs.
[09:33] <dmatt> somsip: it fails if run manually under normal user, works if run manually under root, does nothing during boot
[09:33] <somsip> dmatt: does it exit 0?
[09:33] <slitux___> @nishantjr: if you press F6, you can select another card, this may help
[09:33] <somsip> dmatt: does rc.local end with a "exit 0" command?
[09:34] <dmatt> somsip: how to test it? rc.local is ended with exit 0 and is executable
[09:34] <somsip> dmatt: sh -e I believe, but must AFK. Sorry I couldn't help
[09:34] <nishantjr_> @slitux___:  yeah, but thats the card I want to change.
[09:35] <dmatt> somsip: thanks
[09:36] <slitux___> @nishantjr: if you press F3/F4/F5, may be you could see "Mic Boost"
[09:39] <nishantjr_> @slitux___: yeah, but not on the card I'm interested in.
[09:41] <nishantjr_> @slitux___:  my system configuration is a bit wierd, so might be related to that. Thanks for your time though.
[09:42] <slitux___> @nishantjr: how do you know it is "auto-gained" ?
[09:43] <nishantjr_> @slitux___: The mic volume increases on  it's own
[09:46] <APV> Need some help. My fan stopped changing speed, now it constantly runs on the slowest one, even when cpu is near critical temperature. It is not dusty, I clean it about every one or two months, nor it is noisy, nor it has any problems starting up.
[09:46] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:46] <APV> Hello.
[09:47] <slitux___> @nishantjr: if you change the "Mic" param and set it to "Item: Mic [dB gain: 0,00]" (for me, the displayed value is 56), does it change something ?
[09:47] <cristian_c> I couldn't mount the micro sd card, I had got error
[09:47] <cristian_c> I've typed sudo fsck.msdos -aw /dev/sdc1
[09:47] <cristian_c> now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[09:47] <cristian_c> what can I do?
[09:48] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:48] <APV> Can you try mounting it on different machine\OS?
[09:49] <cristian_c> APV, I can try
[09:49] <Sneaksafe> does anyone have any clues as to why my qbit keeps closing?
[09:51] <APV> cristian_c, I had similar problem, nothing helped, but it was fixed after I mounted it on win7 and it asked to check for problems, it found something and fixed it. Not the very unix-ey way, but, whatever helps.
[09:52] <slitux___> @cristian_c: can you open gparted and check all the partitions in your card?
[09:57] <cristian_c> APV, I've tried now with an other machine
[09:57] <cristian_c> APV, micro sd is not mounted also
[09:57] <cristian_c> :O
[09:57] <cristian_c> different behaviour
[09:57] <cristian_c> than on this machine
[09:58] <cristian_c> APV, at this moment, I've not win 7 available :(
[09:58] <cristian_c> *I've not got
[09:59] <cristian_c> slitux___, on this machine?
[09:59] <slitux___> @cristian_c: with any system where you have gparted installed
[10:00] <cristian_c> slitux___, now , micro sd card is not mounted on this machine anymore
[10:00] <cristian_c> :OOO
[10:01] <cristian_c> incredible!
[10:01] <cristian_c> I don't understand :(
[10:01] <slitux___> ?
[10:02] <cristian_c> some minutes ago, it was mounted on this machine, then I've connected it to another machine, now it's not mounted to this machine anymore
[10:02] <cristian_c> :(
[10:02] <slitux___> hm, can you still mount it on another machine?
[10:02] <cristian_c> Errore di input/output durante la lettura su /dev/sdc
[10:02] <cristian_c> I translate
[10:03] <cristian_c> input/output error while reading on /dev/sdc
[10:03] <cristian_c> slitux___, opening gparted
[10:03] <slitux___> you get this error while opening gparted ?
[10:04] <cristian_c> slitux___, yeah
[10:05] <slitux___> can you do "head /dev/sdc" without errors ?
[10:08] <Lope> how can I mount an encrypted home dir manually?
[10:08] <APV> :( google knows nothing about cooling fans that can't change spin speed.
[10:14] <kevin_> hi everyone !
[10:14] <cristian_c> slitux___, I can try
[10:15] <slitux___> and ?
[10:15] <cristian_c> APV, have you tried pwmconfig?
[10:15] <cristian_c> slitux___, a moment, sorry
[10:16] <cristian_c> APV, but I think it's dangerous
[10:16] <APV> cristian_c, I trien the lm-sensors, but they can not find any sensors on my cooling fans. Nor win7 software could.
[10:16] <tiny> app that will setup sources.list with fastest mirror?
[10:17] <cristian_c> slitux___, head: errore leggendo "/dev/sdc": Errore di input/output
[10:17] <cristian_c> I translate
[10:17] <MHABIBI66_> hi. I want to use PyDrive(google drive api for python). I installed that with pip install PyDrive. But when I try to run a code, I get this error:No module named pydrive.auth
[10:17] <cristian_c> slitux___, head: error reading "/dev/sdc": input/output error
[10:18] <cristian_c> APV, I talk about pwmconfig
[10:18] <APV> cristian_c, reading about it atm.
[10:18] <tiny> loking for a shell app that will setup sources.list with fastest mirrors?
[10:18] <kevin_> Can someone help me ? I want to know how to check if a command-line management software package is working ?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> kevin_, apt-cache show packagename        will give valuable info
[10:19] <cristian_c> APV, ok
[10:19] <APV> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[10:19] <cristian_c> lol
[10:20] <APV> ?
[10:20] <cristian_c> APV, but I've not understood the problem
[10:20] <cristian_c> do you adjust the fan speed?
[10:20] <cristian_c> *do you want to
[10:20] <tiny> kevin_: apt-get update
[10:21] <APV> At one moment cooling fans stopped to automatically increase speed when cpu gets hot. Now cpu can get up 105 degrees and cooling fans don't give a fuck, and system critically shuts down, annoying stuff.
[10:22] <cristian_c> fahreneit?
[10:22] <APV> U wish. Celsius.
[10:22] <cristian_c> sorry
[10:22] <cristian_c> APV, same thing with windows?
[10:23] <APV> I have no windows atm.
[10:23] <cristian_c> APV, I think it's an hardware problem, Maybe you should clean fan and heat sink
[10:24] <cristian_c> APV, lol, I too
[10:24] <cristian_c> (only xp)
[10:24] <kevin_> ok thanks @tiny
[10:25] <APV> The laptops are so hard to disassembly. I just clean with air pressure cleaner, it is effective enough, I think.
[10:25] <shambat> I have a python script that connects to a mysql server, today the script crashes when it tries to connection the the mysql server. I get a crashdump with the error: munmap_chunk() invalid pointer. The backtrace suggests it has something to do with /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.16 and /lib/libc.so.6 ... what could cause this unexpected crash?
[10:26] <cristian_c> APV, you are right, but you can go to a technician
[10:27] <cristian_c> but dust can be blocked between fan and heat sink
[10:27] <tiny> how do I setup gnome display manager and xorg from shell ... I'm on 12.04 LTS atm
[10:28] <APV> But then the fan would not spin at all, and now it spins as usual, no noise, but on minimal speed.
[10:29] <APV> If the fan would stop working, or started to make noise, or had problems starting up, then there would be no questions.
[10:30] <kippi> hey
[10:30] <kippi> I have Defaults:chris    !requiretty in sudoers however when I try to ssh I still getting a error saying ensure 'requiretty' is disabled
[10:31] <lkthomas> hey guys, for ecryptfs, does sig-cache.txt file is important to keep ?
[10:33] <kevin_> I encounter a few problems to install mysql server 5.6; apparently what I understand is that to finish installing the server it tries to start but the start does not work because there is an error. I need to finish the installation and then uninstalled for the configured database
[10:37] <atar> hi - I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 with encrypted disk and LVM parallel to a windows 7 install. I am stuck at initializing the lvm. How do I have to proceed?
[10:38] <trap_exit> what is the simplest way to test of my ubuntu (trapped inside virtual box) sound is being piped to my osx (host)
[10:40] <cristian_c> APV, ok
[10:40] <cristian_c> APV, it's strange, maybe you can try with an old ubuntu release
[10:40] <cristian_c> if there was a kernel bug
[10:40] <cristian_c> :)
[10:41] <cristian_c> *acpi, ecc...
[10:41] <cristian_c> *etc
[10:42] <Lope> I need to mount encrypted home dir on another PC. I followed this guide to doing it manually. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Manually but after I mounted it, I could see all the file/dir names but there were ? symbols all over the permissions and user ownership columns of ls -la. And I could not cat the files nor enter the directories.
[10:42] <APV> It crashed once on the loading screen, so it is probably not OS problem, the fans control is somewhere deeper. :) Checked BIOS, but nothing concerning fan there :(
[10:45] <Lope> Okay, nevermind. I used the noob automatic method and it worked!
[10:45] <topkek32juan> hi how make firefox really fast
[10:46] <topkek32juan> super fast
[10:46] <Lope> run your firefox profile inside a tmpfs
[10:46] <topkek32juan> i am using profile-sync-daemon
[10:46] <topkek32juan> how make faster
[10:47] <slartybartfast> not start it is fastest ever :-)
[10:47] <slartybartfast> just kidding sry
[10:49] <slitux___> hi, i have a problem with my firefox, sometimes, ff uses 100% of the CPU for about 20 seconds .
[10:49] <slartybartfast> plugins?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !chromium|slitux___,
[10:50] <slitux___> but i want to use ff , (?)
[10:50] <cfhowlett> slitux___, disable plugins and test
[10:51] <slitux___> i already disabled them ...
[10:51] <slitux___> :(
[10:51] <atar> is it at all possible to install with LVM and crypto with 14.04? it seems the alternate (text) installer was removed
[10:52] <slitux___> the problem happends suddently, i read a page, and then, ...
[10:52] <cfhowlett> atar, for text based, look at the .mini iso
[10:53] <atar> cfhowlett: is this compatible with usb boot?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !mini | atar yes, usb compliant
[10:54] <atar> awesome - thanks. i
[10:54] <atar> i'll try this
[10:55] <timkofu> hi guys
[10:55] <slitux___> hi tim
[10:55] <timkofu> im looking for an ubuntu 12.10 bind9.10 package?
[10:55] <timkofu> *12.04
[10:55] <timkofu> it has an ancient 9.8
[11:01] <ddv> timkofu: you should probably use a ppa then
[11:06] <evil_god> pacman -Syu
[11:07] <_2_copi1134> hi
[11:07] <_2_copi1134> :D
[11:07] <_2_copi1134> wm
[11:07] <_2_copi1134> und wehr bis du
[11:09] <cfhowlett> !de|_2_copi1134,
[11:12] <cristian_c> slitux____, any ideas?
[11:17] <slitux____> @cristian_c i was out, but if your card worked (not well) before and do'nt work now, it's strange
[11:17] <slitux____> :)
[11:21] <Lope> my home dir is already encrypted with ecryptfs. Can I use ecryptfs to encrypt /foo/bar also?
[11:22] <slitux____> @cristian_c: i think you should restart your system and unplug/plug the sd card
[11:22] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, my card did'nt work before
[11:22] <cristian_c> slitux____, before I could mount it, but
 now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[11:23] <slitux____> you can mount it with the system which gave you the "read error" ??
[11:23] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, when today I've tried the micro sd card on another machine , it couldn't be mounted
[11:24] <cristian_c> when I've connected it again to this machine, it count't be mounted anymore
[11:24] <Lope> Can a user only mount a single ecryptfs volume simultaneously? I'm trying to make a 2nd ecryptfs volume and it says "wrapped-passphrase file already exists, use --force to overwrite."?
[11:24] <slitux____> what is the filesysytem of the card ?
[11:24] <cristian_c> slitux____, yeah, but now I get these dmesg errors with both the two machines
[11:25] <slitux____> so, you can'nt mount it anymore ?
[11:25] <cristian_c> until today, it was mounted in this machine
[11:25] <kirkland> Lope: you might be able to get what you want out of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/mount.ecryptfs_private.1.html
[11:25] <cristian_c> slitux____, yeah, I can
[11:25] <kirkland> Lope: see the bit about ALIAS
[11:26] <cristian_c> slitux____, now I can't see the filesystem type
[11:26] <cristian_c> it can't be mounted
[11:26] <slitux____> cristian_c, and before, where you able to see the filesystem type?
[11:26] <cristian_c> yeah
[11:26] <cristian_c> slitux____, I could
[11:27] <cristian_c> slsorry
[11:27] <cristian_c> slitux____, sorry
[11:27] <slitux____> cristian_c, why?
[11:27] <cristian_c> slitux____, I could see the filesystem mounted everywhere
[11:28] <cristian_c> before
[11:28] <cristian_c> now, not anymore
[11:28] <slitux____> on both your 2 machine ?
[11:28] <slitux____> *machines
[11:28] <cristian_c> slitux____, I didn't try to mount it on another machine until today
[11:29] <slitux____> and now, (to sumarize), you can mount it with one machine, but can see the files names
[11:29] <cristian_c> slitux____, this test has created problems, so I can't mount it on this machine anymore
[11:29] <slitux____> which test?
[11:29] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, I could do this until today
[11:29] <cristian_c> slitux____, the test APV suggested me
[11:30] <slitux____> i didn't saw it
[11:30] <cristian_c> slitux____, connecting the micro-sd card to another machine (different by this)
[11:30] <cristian_c> !log
[11:31] <slitux____> cristian_c: can you use your card with another device (phone, camera,...)
[11:32] <cristian_c> APV	Can you try mounting it on different machine\OS?	09:48
[11:32] <cristian_c> slitux____, here
[11:32] <slitux____> ok
[11:32] <cristian_c> slitux____, I can ytry
[11:32] <cristian_c> *try
[11:32] <cristian_c> a moment, sorry
[11:33] <slitux____> is it a new card or do you have a lot of file in it ?
[11:33] <slitux____> *files
[11:34] <cristian_c> slitux____, I did a backup with dd
[11:34] <cristian_c> slitux____, before I tried the fsck command
[11:34] <JokerMentalist> salut
[11:34] <gyaresu> Who would be so kind as to link me to the Ubuntu 12 Skype fix?
[11:35] <gyaresu> and hi
[11:35] <slitux____> salut
[11:35] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've tried now the card on my phone
[11:35] <cristian_c> slitux____, I don't get errors but I don't see it mounted
[11:35] <cristian_c> on the phone
[11:36] <slitux____> cristian_c: did the the dd command overwrotte the filesystem?
[11:36] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, I did the dd command to backup the sd card to my machine
[11:36] <cristian_c> before executing fsck to my card
[11:37] <cristian_c> to get a safe copy
[11:37] <slitux____> when did you (the backup) ?
[11:37] <slitux____> (sorry for my english)
[11:38] <cristian_c> slitux____, no problem, I don't speak english too :D
[11:39] <slitux____> :)
[11:39] <cristian_c> slitux____, I did the dd backup time ago
[11:39] <slitux____> long time ago?
[11:39] <cristian_c> slitux____, i never solved the problem
[11:39] <cristian_c> slI dont' remember honestly
[11:39] <cristian_c> why this question?
[11:40] <slitux____> are you ready to do the reverse backup?
[11:40] <cristian_c> slitux____, I can try to mount it to my photo camera
[11:40] <cristian_c> via sd adapter
[11:40] <cristian_c> slitux____, I don't know how to do 'reverse backup'
[11:40] <cristian_c> sorry
[11:40] <cristian_c> :)
[11:41] <cristian_c> slitux____, but there is the problem, first
[11:41] <cristian_c> I must resume the micro sd card
[11:41] <cristian_c> or formatting
[11:41] <cristian_c> it's the same
[11:41] <cristian_c> :)
[11:41] <slitux____> is it envisageable to format the card ?
[11:42] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think yes, because I own the dd backup
[11:42] <cristian_c> :)
[11:43] <cristian_c> but I don't know how repair the card or reverse backup
[11:43] <cristian_c> *how to
[11:43] <slitux____> by 'reverse backup' , i mean 'to put the backup on your card'
[11:44] <slitux____> what was the result with your camera?
[11:46] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've tried now with the camera
[11:46] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've taken a photo with the card inserted in
[11:47] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've extracted the sd adapter card from the camera
[11:47] <slitux____> can you format the card with your camera ?
[11:47] <cristian_c> slitux____, i've  connected it to my machine and now it's mounted
[11:47] <cristian_c> :O
[11:47] <cristian_c> slitux____, I can try
[11:47] <cristian_c> but
[11:48] <slitux____> do you need it now ?
[11:48] <slitux____> (to format)
 now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[11:48] <cristian_c> slitux____, the previus problem
[11:48] <cristian_c> is appeared again, it's now mounted again, but with the same problem
[11:48] <samlev> morning/evening/whichever applies
[11:48] <slitux____> so, you can try to format with your camera,
[11:48] <rayius> Hi I am noob to ubuntu, can anyone help me out? I got a ridiculous wifi connection speed
[11:49] <ret> Did anybody used TVS RP-3160 thermal printer with ubunut?
[11:49] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think I can format it with ubuntu
[11:49] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, it's mounted
[11:49] <cristian_c> slitux____, after I connected to the camera
[11:49] <slitux____> good idea, but why didnt you do it befoer?
[11:49] <slitux____> *before
[11:49] <cristian_c> I've not thought
[11:50] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, i think i can open it in gparted
[11:50] <slitux____> :)
[11:50] <slitux____> what is the filesystem (just to know)
[11:50] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, gparted has mounted it
[11:50] <cristian_c> fat32
[11:50] <slitux____> ok
[11:51] <cristian_c> it has a strange label
[11:51] <cristian_c> :O
[11:51] <slitux____> which label ?
[11:51] <samlev> anyone had much experience debugging sound issues on laptops?
[11:51] <cristian_c> '_&x!'
[11:51] <cristian_c> :O
[11:51] <cristian_c> in the label column
[11:51] <rayius> Hi I am noob to ubuntu, can anyone help me out? I got a ridiculous wifi connection speed
[11:51] <rayius> :(
[11:51] <cristian_c> slitux____, gparted has many columns
[11:51] <cristian_c> for each line
[11:51] <samlev> rayius: how do you mean?
[11:52] <rayius> i seem to have low wifi speed
[11:52] <rayius> compared to windows
[11:52] <slitux____> @cristian_c: think your card has crashed
[11:52] <ObrienDave> rayius, rebooted router and modem lately?
[11:52] <cristian_c> slitux____, now , can I format it correctly?
[11:52] <cristian_c> slitux____, which parameters, I've to use?
[11:52] <rayius> Yes...
[11:52] <cristian_c> have I to redoing the partition table?
[11:53] <cristian_c> *make again
[11:53] <rayius> I tried a few fix on the ubuntu forum still the same...
[11:53] <slitux____> i opened gparred to see the possibilities
[11:53] <slitux____> ...
[11:53] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok
[11:54] <slitux____> do you have 1 or more partitions ?
[11:54] <cristian_c> slitux____, /dev/sdb1 only
[11:54] <cristian_c> strange, sdb instead of sdc :O
[11:54] <AceKing> rayius: what wifi card do you have?
[11:55] <rayius> it's a lappy..
[11:55] <slitux____> right click on the partition -> format -> fat32
[11:55] <cristian_c> ok, I unmount it from gparted
[11:55] <AceKing> rayius: I know. But do you know what wifi card is in it?
[11:55] <cristian_c> *by
[11:56] <cristian_c> ufff, gparted is freezed
[11:56] <rayius> is there a cmd i can type to do so? *sorry
[11:56] <slitux____> wait a bit ...
[11:57] <AceKing> rayius: open a terminal and run lspci
[11:57] <cristian_c> 'searching /dev/sdb partitions' in the gparted status bar
[11:57] <cristian_c> it's freezed
[11:57] <slitux____> after format ?
[11:57] <cristian_c> *frozen
[11:57] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, while unmounting
[11:58] <cristian_c> slitux____, nothing changes, always frozen
[11:59] <cristian_c> it's strange
[11:59] <slitux____> you should force gParted to close ...
[11:59] <cristian_c> ok
[11:59] <cristian_c> closed
[11:59] <slitux____> and restart it again, to see
[11:59] <cristian_c> it's closed immediately :O
[11:59] <cristian_c> ok
[11:59] <m1dnight_> Should I upgrade my samba version on my 12.04 server? (im running 3.6.3) per the article on ars: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/08/critical-code-execution-bug-in-samba-gives-attackers-superuser-powers/
[12:00] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, gparted is not opened anymore
[12:00] <cristian_c> ufff
[12:00] <slitux____> strange ...
[12:00] <cristian_c> I see gparted bin, etc in task manager
[12:00] <slitux____> what is the result of 'head /dev/sdb' ?
[12:01] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think it's not closed correctly
[12:01] <bipul> hello i am unable to connect with internet via wifi , I am able to access router. I am using a ubuntu 14.04
[12:01] <slitux____> ok, you should close/kill it
[12:01] <cristian_c> slitux____, with head command, I get many strange symbols in the terminal
[12:01] <cristian_c> :O
[12:02] <slitux____> that very good
[12:02] <slitux____> that mean your card is accessible
[12:02] <slitux____> (if your card is /dev/sdb)
[12:03] <cristian_c> I've killed gpartedbin
[12:03] <bipul> Hello, I am not able to connect with my internet via wifi connetion, in my ubuntu 14.04. I am able to connect with router but not internet. Please help.
[12:04] <slitux____> cristian_c, and now?
[12:04] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've done many tries
[12:04] <bipul> Hello, I am not able to connect with my internet via wifi connetion, in my ubuntu 14.04. I am able to connect with router but not internet. Please help.
[12:05] <cristian_c> (also disconnecting the card form machine)
[12:05] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, It's mounted in gparted
[12:05] <cristian_c> again
[12:05] <slitux____> you have tried to restart gparted ? but it dont works ?
[12:05] <slitux____> what is the mount point ?
[12:06] <cristian_c> slitux____, it's a very strange behaviour, when I try to unmount it with gparted, gparted freezes
[12:06] <cristian_c> :O
[12:06] <cristian_c> it's happened again
[12:06] <slitux____> do you know the mount point ?
[12:07] <cristian_c> slitux____, /media/cristian/FD4A-963B
[12:07] <slitux____> in your terminal: 'umount /media/cristian/FD4A-963B'
[12:07] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, I've solved disconnecting the card
[12:07] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok, I try to open again gparted
[12:08] <cristian_c> and the I try to unmount from terminal
[12:08] <slitux____> can you connect the card witout mounting it ?
[12:08] <cristian_c> *then
[12:08] <cristian_c> slitux____, i try
[12:09] <cristian_c> slitux____, If I connect the card, it's automatically mountede
[12:09] <cristian_c> *mounted
[12:09] <cristian_c> slitux____, I try a trick
[12:11] <imkite> If possible could someone please look at http://pastebin.com/tyKQp3uK and tell me what kind of DNS attack this is. This has been going on for almost a week thought whomever would have gotten bored but now I am second guessing myself lol
[12:12] <slitux____> i was in the garden for one minute, ... which trick ?
[12:12] <patates> how do I add a few folder to the excluded? "tar -cvpzf /bckp/bckp.tar.gz --exlude=/home"
[12:12] <cristian_c> I tried to open gparted and then from terminal the umount command
[12:13] <cristian_c> but the trick didn't work
[12:13] <patates> like --exclude=/home --exclude=/secondfld --exclude=/thidr
[12:13] <patates> ?
[12:13] <tuocuggino> !chat
[12:13] <cristian_c> slitux____, I don't know what to do for formatting
[12:14] <slitux____> so, to sumarize, you're not able to format it with gpartred, but may-be you should try with your camera :D
[12:14] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok
[12:14] <funkt> Hi there I recently did a hardware update and I restarted my desktop to find my screen display locked to 640 x 480 and no way of being able to access many windows in ubuntu because of the locked screen size could anyone help?
[12:15] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, I get on my camera: 'card not usable'
[12:15] <cristian_c> :(
[12:15] <slitux____> bu you where able to write a photo in it , no ??
[12:16] <cristian_c> slitux____, before, not now
[12:16] <cristian_c> now, when I insert the card into it, I get this message
[12:16] <funkt> I am using 12.04 Ubuntu LTS
[12:16] <slitux____> can you still acces the filesystem with your computer ?
[12:17] <cristian_c> slitux____, what filesystem?
[12:17] <cristian_c>  / ?
[12:17] <slitux____> can you acces the folders (with stranges name) on the card ?
[12:18] <cristian_c> slitux____, yeah, but they are empty
[12:18] <cristian_c> the folders
[12:18] <cristian_c> slitux____, and files too
[12:19] <cristian_c> :-/
[12:19] <slitux____> ok, and if you unmount the card with your file manager, (can you ?)
[12:19] <eeee> funkt: type xrandr in the terminal
[12:20] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, If I unmount the device from file manager, it disappears
[12:20] <cristian_c> from file manager
[12:20] <slitux____> now, open gpartred
[12:20] <cristian_c> ok
[12:20] <funkt> xrandr
[12:20] <funkt> I have tried that
[12:20] <funkt> and it sayes it is locked
[12:21] <cristian_c> gparted is not opening again
[12:21] <funkt> thanks eeee
[12:21] <cristian_c> I try to kill
[12:21] <eeee> funkt: what do you mean locked?
[12:21] <slitux____>  
[12:21] <funkt> can you bear with me for one minute!
[12:21] <cristian_c> ok ,killed and opened again
[12:21] <eeee> yeah sure
[12:21] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've opened gparted
[12:22] <slitux____> does the card appears in gparred
[12:22] <cristian_c> slitux____, no
[12:22] <cristian_c> only sda
[12:22] <cristian_c> because it's not mounted
[12:23] <slitux____> but it sould apears, even if it's not mounted, because the card is connected
[12:23] <slitux____> *should
[12:23] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, if I open gparted and the card is not mounted, gparted doesn't show me it
[12:23] <cristian_c> it's normal
[12:23] <tiny> no it's not
[12:23] <cristian_c> lol
[12:24] <slitux____> and what does the 'head /dev/sdb' returns
[12:24] <slitux____> (stil witout mounting the card
[12:24] <cristian_c> it's always has been so, with any devices
[12:24] <tiny> also, 'fdisk -l' should show every "disk" connected
[12:24] <cristian_c> slI try head
[12:24] <cristian_c> slitux____, I try head
[12:24] <funkt> Hi there typing xrandr in the terminal says failed to get size of gamma for output defualt
[12:25] <cristian_c> head: impossibile aprire "/dev/sdb" per la lettura: Nessun supporto trovato
[12:25] <slitux____> ok,
[12:25] <cristian_c> I translate
[12:25] <funkt> screen:0 minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480
[12:25] <eeee> funkt: just typing xrandr alone ?
[12:25] <funkt> yes
[12:25] <eeee> what resolution do you want
[12:25] <cristian_c> head: unable opening  ... for reading: No device found
[12:25] <cristian_c> *s
[12:25] <slitux____> ok
[12:25] <funkt> well before the update I had a full size screen
[12:25] <tiny> cristian_c: paste "fdisk -l" somewhere
[12:25] <funkt> of over 1000 pixels
[12:25] <cristian_c> tiny, I try
[12:26] <eeee> funkt: do you remember exactly what it was ?
[12:26] <cristian_c> tiny, sudo fdisk -l returns only sda
[12:26] <cristian_c> entries
[12:26] <slitux____> thats strange, you could connect the card witout mounting it
[12:26] <funkt> If i could perhaps just get enough to be able to get to the detect displays button I may be able to correct it
[12:26] <tiny> cristian_c: there you go, what's the problem again?
[12:26] <funkt> what the update was?
[12:26] <eeee> no the screen resolution
[12:26] <funkt> Oh
[12:26] <cristian_c> tiny, slitux____ has suggested me to format the card
[12:26] <eeee> try this
[12:27] <funkt> erm No i'm afraid I dont
[12:27] <eeee> gtf 1366 768 60
[12:27] <eeee> type that in the terminal
[12:27] <tiny> cristian_c: you can't format the card if it's not detected by system. What type of card?
[12:27] <cristian_c> tiny, I know this
[12:27] <cristian_c> tiny, micro sd card
[12:27] <funkt> ok
[12:28] <funkt> got a bunch of data and numbers
[12:28] <tiny> cristian_c: sometimes there's a problem with card reader.
[12:28] <cristian_c> tiny, no
[12:28] <eeee> now type sudo xrandr --newmode "1366x768" <paste the numbers after _60.00" here>
[12:28] <slitux____> @tiny: but the card can be mounted
[12:28] <tiny> cristian_c: how do you plug in the card?
[12:28] <cristian_c> slitux____, yeah, but I can't unmount via gparted
[12:28] <tiny> how can it be mounted if fdisk doesn't show it?
[12:29] <cristian_c> gparted freezes
[12:29] <tiny> mount -a
[12:29] <tiny> show that
[12:29] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:29] <slitux____> because when cristian unmount it, it siseapers
[12:29] <cristian_c> yeah
[12:29] <funkt> sorry which numbers do i paste?
[12:29] <cristian_c> Dispositivo Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:29] <cristian_c> /dev/sdb1   *        2048    15556607     7777280    b  W95 FAT32
[12:29] <eeee> funkt: paste the numbers after "1368x768_60.00" until +Vsync
[12:30] <eeee> funkt: when i type it here i get 85.86 1368 1440 ..
[12:30] <funkt> hmm Im sorry I don't understand
[12:30] <cristian_c> tiny, the fdisk output
[12:30] <eeee> funkt: paste here what you get when you type gtf 1366 768 60
[12:30] <tiny> cristian_c: that's the output of fdisk(1) and not mount(1)
[12:31] <cristian_c> tiny, I type mount, now
[12:31] <eeee> (paste it in the channel)
[12:31] <funkt> okay thank you!
[12:31] <cristian_c> tiny, sudo mount -a returns nothing :OOO
[12:32] <cristian_c> very strange
[12:32] <Guest91621> gtf 1366 768 60
[12:32] <Guest91621>   # 1368x768 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 47.70 kHz; pclk: 85.86 MHz
[12:32] <Guest91621>   Modeline "1368x768_60.00"  85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:32] <tiny> cristian_c: sorry: just mount
[12:32] <tiny> no "-a"
[12:32] <cristian_c> /dev/sdb1 on /media/cristian/FD4A-963B type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[12:32] <funkt> Hi there I had to log in as guest on the other computer but it is me!
[12:33] <funkt> guest91621
[12:33] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, so do: umount /media/cristian/FD4A-963B
[12:33] <funkt> I have pasted the output
[12:33] <cristian_c> tiny, done
[12:33] <eeee> funkt: ok, type sudo xrandr --newmode "1368x768" 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:33] <tiny> cristian_c: so it's not mounted anymore?
[12:33] <cristian_c> not mounted, now
[12:33] <cristian_c> but present in file manager
[12:33] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, so what does fdisk -l show now?
[12:34] <cristian_c> tiny, as before
[12:34] <Guest91621> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[12:34] <cristian_c> tiny, pastebin?
[12:34] <funkt> That was the output
[12:34] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, make sense. Now, What's the problem? You can't access files on that card?
[12:34] <cristian_c> tiny, the problem it's very strange
[12:35] <cristian_c> tiny, the story: 1) a day i inserted the micro-sd card in an android device and I got errors
[12:35] <cristian_c> tiny, 2) whe
[12:35] <cristian_c> tiny, when I plugged to a pc, i had superblock error
[12:36] <eeee> funkt: try xrandr -s 800x600
[12:36] <eeee> funkt: does it change?
[12:36] <cristian_c> tiny, 3) I was suggested to use fsck
[12:36] <cristian_c> tiny, 4) I did a dd backup of the card to my pc
[12:36] <Guest91621> NO AND IT SAYS xrandr -s 800x600
[12:36] <cristian_c> tiny, 5) I executed the fsck
[12:36] <Guest91621> Size 800x600 not found in available modes
[12:37] <ObrienDave> latest drivers for your card?
[12:37] <funkt> thanks for all your help eeee
[12:37] <funkt> no change!
[12:38] <cristian_c> tiny, 6) then <cristian_c> now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[12:38] <cristian_c> tiny, now, I was suggested to format the card and do a reverse backup from dd
[12:39] <cristian_c> tiny, any ideas to format it?
[12:39] <funkt> Any more ideas eeee?
[12:39] <eeee> funkt: try xrandr --output default --gamma 1:1:1 --mode 1280x1024
[12:39] <tiny> cristian_c: hmm, a lot of variables, nothing specific there. If you did a dd(1) backup of card when it was already corrupted then it won't help.
[12:40] <tiny> cristian_c: it's easy to format it.
[12:40] <cristian_c> I think I must make the partition table again
[12:40] <tiny> cristian_c: first make sure you have a backup you can restore!
[12:40] <Guest91621> xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x102
[12:40] <cristian_c> tiny, a dd before executing the fsck
[12:40] <cristian_c> :)
[12:40] <cristian_c> tiny, not after
[12:40] <funkt> No mode eeee
[12:40] <tiny> cristian_c: do you know how to mount that dd image and extract data?
[12:41] <cristian_c> tiny, no, I don't know
[12:41] <tiny> heh
[12:41] <eeee> funkt: ok, try sudo xrandr --newmode --gamma 1:1:1 "1368x768" 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
 cristian_c: it's easy to format it.
[12:41] <cristian_c> i don't know how to format it correctly
[12:41] <tiny> do you care about the old data?
[12:41] <cristian_c> also
[12:41] <Guest91621> xrandr: unrecognized option '795'
[12:41] <Guest91621> Try 'xrandr --help' for more information.
[12:41] <eeee> sorry
[12:41] <Guest91621> THATS OKAY
[12:42] <Eldunar> hello is it possible to group up application in Xubuntu?
[12:42] <slitux____> but i think you can't format it when it is mounted
 do you care about the old data?
[12:42] <slitux____> have you suceed unmounting it ?
[12:42] <cristian_c> tiny, I've not understood
[12:42] <eeee> funkt: ok, try sudo xrandr --gamma 1:1:1 --newmode "1368x768" 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:43] <tiny> cristian_c: what happened from the time you "backed up" with dd until the time you notice FS corruption?
[12:43] <Guest91621> xrandr: --gamma must be used after --output
[12:43] <Guest91621> Try 'xrandr --help' for more information.
[12:43] <cristian_c> slitux____, now, it's unmounted, but I don't think gparted can see it
[12:43] <cristian_c> if unmounted
[12:43] <tiny> cristian_c: no need to use gparted. Use fdisk.
[12:43] <eeee> funkt: ok, try sudo xrandr --newmode "1368x768" --gamma 1:1:1 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:43] <eeee> maybe?
[12:43] <eeee> ill try here as well
[12:43] <cristian_c> tiny, I've excuted fsck command
[12:43] <cristian_c> *executed the fsck command
[12:44] <eeee> didn't work
[12:44] <Guest91621> sudo xrandr --newmode "1368x768" --gamma 1:1:1 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:44] <Guest91621> Yeah
[12:44] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:44] <tiny> cristian_c: yes but you say there are no files on card? Can you paste "ls -l"
[12:44] <Guest91621> clever stuff!
[12:44] <tiny> cristian_c: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/somedir
[12:44] <Guest91621> nearly there maybe?
[12:44] <cristian_c> tiny, there are files and folders on the card, but they have strange names and they are empty
[12:45] <tiny> cristian_c: show us!
[12:45] <cristian_c> tiny, I think it's corrupted
[12:45] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:45] <stangeland> hi, i have a directory of 12 very big files. How do i copy the first MB of each file into 12 new small files?
[12:45] <tiny> maybe you're just missing some locale(s)
[12:45] <cristian_c> I've mounted the card
[12:45] <cristian_c> else, I can't use ls
[12:46] <cristian_c> !paste
[12:47] <eeee> funkt: hold on
[12:47] <cristian_c> tiny, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7960851/
[12:47] <funkt> holding on!
 cristian_c: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/somedir
[12:48] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, that looks bad.
[12:48] <tiny> cristian_c: ls -l please
[12:48] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:49] <cristian_c> tiny, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7960873/
 cristian_c: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/somedir
[12:49] <cristian_c> tiny, have I to try this?
[12:50] <tiny> cristian_c: no, you already mounted again didn't you?
[12:50] <cristian_c> ok
[12:50] <eeee> funkt: try without sudo
[12:50] <eeee> funkt: xrandr --newmode "1368x768" 85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:51] <cristian_c> tiny, now, there are two problems: 1) formatting the card, 2) do a reverse backup from dd file
[12:51] <Guest91621> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[12:51] <Guest91621> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[12:51] <Guest91621>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[12:51] <Guest91621>   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
[12:51] <Guest91621>   Serial number of failed request:  19
[12:51] <Guest91621>   Current serial number in output stream:  19
[12:51] <unopaste> Guest91621 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:51] <funkt> eeee I've been muted for pasting too many lines
[12:52] <tiny> cristian_c:  no problems there if your backup is ok. Fsck didn't corrupt those files.
[12:52] <eeee> yeah it's ok, it's for 60seconds
[12:52] <tiny> cristian_c: something else caused it's corruption.
[12:52] <cristian_c> tiny, lol
[12:52] <cristian_c> tiny, these are appeared after fsck command
[12:52] <cristian_c> *appeared
[12:52] <Guest91621> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[12:53] <ioudas> Has anyone setup alfresco cifs on ubuntu? I have some issues getting cifs to work
[12:53] <Guest91621> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[12:53] <Guest91621> Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[12:53] <Guest91621> Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
[12:53] <tiny> cristian_c: did you fsck on mounted system?
[12:53] <Guest91621> Serial number of failed request:  19
[12:53] <cristian_c> tiny, I've not understood
[12:53] <Guest91621> Current serial number in output stream:  19
[12:54] <funkt> eeee thanks thats it? any ideas what that means?
[12:54] <eeee> funkt: type ls /etc/X11 | grep xorg
[12:54] <marko_> is there any way to  upload videos to instagram from ubuntu?
[12:54] <tiny> cristian_c: did you do file system check while card was mounted? You _should not_ do that! That's probably the cause of corruption.
[12:54] <tiny> ok
[12:54] <cristian_c> tiny, <cristian_c> I've typed sudo fsck.msdos -aw /dev/sdc1
[12:54] <tiny> cristian_c: umount the blody card again and don't mount it!
[12:54] <Guest91621> bash: type: /etc/X11: not found
[12:54] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:54] <tiny> cristian_c: double check it's not mounted
[12:55] <tiny> mount | grep sdb
[12:55] <eeee> funkt: you typed "type" i think
[12:55] <eeee> ?
[12:55] <funkt> oh
[12:55] <funkt> hang on :)
[12:55] <cristian_c> tiny, /dev/sdb1 on /media/cristian/FD4A-963B type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[12:55] <Guest91621> xorg.conf.failsafe
[12:56] <tiny> ublodymount it!
[12:56] <tiny> umount /media/cristian/FD4A-963B
[12:56] <funkt> that any better eeee?
[12:56] <cristian_c> tiny, ok, it is unmounted and it's present in the file manager
[12:56] <eeee> yeah, hold on
[12:57] <eeee> :)
[12:57] <tiny> cristian_c: noooooooooo
[12:57] <tiny> it must not be present in file manager
[12:57] <tiny> it must be unmounted
[12:57] <tiny> mount | grep sdb
[12:57] <eeee> trying to see if it's ok to rename that file
[12:57] <cristian_c> tiny, ok, but i've typed the command you have suggested to me
[12:57] <tiny> sudo mount  | grep sdb
[12:57] <cristian_c> this returns nothing
[12:58] <cristian_c> it's not mounted
[12:58] <eeee> funkt: you're on 2 PC's right now, right?
[12:58] <tiny> ok, now go to the directory you have dd image
[12:58] <tiny> cristian_c: ^
[12:58] <funkt> yes thats right!
[12:58] <cristian_c> tiny, but it's visible in the left column in the file manager (unmounted)
[12:58] <funkt> eeee yes I am!
[12:58] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[12:58] <eeee> funkt: ok, cool.
[12:58] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, close file manager, open terminal
[12:59] <eeee> funkt: type sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe.backup
[12:59] <cristian_c> closed
[13:00] <tiny> cristian_c: now : cd into directory you've stored dd backup image
[13:00] <funkt> eeee okay!
[13:00] <eeee> funkt: ok try to restart the computer
[13:00] <funkt> Restarting! eeee
[13:01] <eeee> ok :)
[13:01] <bsdbandit> good morning im  working on an automated install of ubuntu 12.04 using kickstart my question is do i have to use the system-config-kickstart to generate the kickstart file or can i just use on  that ive already created from a redhat system and then add preseed commands to  that file ?
[13:01] <cristian_c> ok, found: microsd.dd
[13:02] <Enissay> logging in as a root, I want to access to the console of a running application for another user... typing simply the appName launch a new root instance which I dont want :/ ... How can I get into the already running app please ?
[13:02] <cristian_c> tiny, it's located in an external disk
[13:02] <funkt> eeee Ok I have restarted and I am now back in ubuntu
[13:02] <cristian_c> tiny, is it safe anyway?
 ok, found: microsd.dd
[13:02] <tiny> cristian_c: what external disk?
[13:02] <cristian_c> tiny, I stored the .dd file in an usb external disk
[13:03] <tiny> cristian_c: before we go further please paste this command: fdisk -l
[13:03] <cristian_c>  /media/cristian/64C886C730A45592/Other/microsd
[13:03] <eeee> funkt: i guess it didn't work?
[13:03] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[13:03] <funkt> Oh sorry mate no joy!
[13:03] <Jackmawer> Hey, if I want people to help test my scripts, where do I go?
[13:03] <funkt> wish it had!
[13:04] <cristian_c> tiny, the external disk: sdd
[13:04] <cristian_c> Disk /dev/sdd: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[13:05] <eeee> funkt: ok, type ls /etc/X11
[13:06] <eeee> wait
[13:06] <cristian_c> tiny, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7960997/
[13:06] <eeee> i mean ls /etc/X11 | grep xorg
[13:06] <funkt> lol ok ill wait!
 cristian_c: now : cd into directory you've stored dd backup image
[13:06] <eeee> :)
[13:06] <cristian_c> tiny, then?
[13:07] <tiny> cristian_c: one more time: sudo mount | grep sdb
[13:07] <cristian_c> ok
[13:07] <cristian_c> tiny, nothing returned
[13:07] <tiny> good
[13:07] <tiny> ls -l
[13:07] <tiny> paste it ^
[13:07] <cristian_c> tiny, in which location?
[13:08] <tiny> cristian_c: in the directory you have dd image
[13:08] <cristian_c> ok
[13:08] <tiny> go there and do ls -l
[13:08] <eeee> funkt: you there?
[13:08] <funkt> certainly am eeee!
[13:08] <eeee> ok, type ls /etc/X11 | grep xorg
[13:08] <Marano> I use a particular Linux distro but it's discontinued, its based on Ubuntu though. How can I keep using it? Should I use Ubuntu's repos now?
[13:09] <cristian_c> tiny, totale 7777280
[13:09] <cristian_c> -rw------- 1 cristian cristian 7963934720 mar 31 13:21 microsd.dd
[13:09] <tiny> Marano: wow, I've just been to the process of upgrading from discontinued distro, hard work
[13:09] <brian_> eeee - xorg.conf.failsafe.backup
[13:09] <Marano> tiny: I see.
[13:09] <funkt> my alter user is brain_
[13:09] <Marano> tiny: which distro were you on?
[13:09] <funkt> eeee ^
[13:09] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, now do: sudo dd if=./microsd.dd of=/dev/sdb
[13:10] <tiny> Marano: ubuntu 10.10
[13:10] <Marano> tiny: How did you work it out though? I am curious.
[13:10] <tiny> Marano: 6 upgrades to 14.04 LTS
[13:10] <eeee> funkt: ok i think you should rename it back then.
[13:10] <funkt> reaname what back?
[13:10] <funkt> eeee: rename what back?
[13:10] <tiny> Marano: I had to manually edit sources.list though ... and change url to: old-repositories.ubuntu.com
[13:10] <cristian_c> tiny, from external disk to external sd card
[13:11] <tiny> cristian_c: yeah so?
[13:11] <Lynda22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bitly.com/1o8VFsz
[13:11] <cristian_c> tiny, I'll think it will be very slow
[13:11] <Marano> tiny: Are you still using Ubuntu 10.10?
[13:11] <cristian_c> *I think
[13:11] <eeee> funkt: type sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[13:11] <tiny> Marano: no, I've just upgraded to 14.04 LTS but I need to fix xorg
[13:11] <Marano> tiny: How much is your RAM?
[13:11] <tiny> cristian_c: just do it! USB disk is faster then microsd card
[13:12] <tiny> Marano: 2GB
[13:12] <cristian_c> tiny, I've typed beofre
[13:12] <brian_> eeee: sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[13:12] <brian_> mv is /bin/mv
[13:12] <brian_> bash: type: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe.backup: not found
[13:12] <brian_> bash: type: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe: not found
[13:12] <cristian_c> *before
[13:12] <tiny> cristian_c: ?
[13:12] <cristian_c> tiny, I've typed it whenyou have told me
[13:12] <eeee> funkt: i think you wrote "type" again?
[13:12] <Marano> tiny: Oh wow, does Ubuntu operate fine on it?
[13:12] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, just wait now, it  might take a while.
[13:12] <cristian_c> and i'm waiting the end from some minutes
[13:12] <cristian_c> :)
[13:12] <Marano> tiny: I have 4GB ram and my computer hanged like everliving hell on Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:13] <cristian_c> tiny, I think much time
[13:13] <cristian_c> :(
[13:13] <tiny> Marano: I'm planing to use Gnome 2
[13:13] <Marano> tiny: That's a very, very bad choice.
[13:13] <cristian_c> I hope not hours
[13:13] <funkt> eeee: aploigies yes I did
[13:13] <funkt> all back I guess now eeee
[13:13] <tiny> Marano: why?
[13:13] <eeee> ok
[13:13] <Marano> tiny: I recommend that you should use Xfce instead, its very lightweight and beautiful at the same time.
[13:13] <tiny> Marano: I'm not setting it up for me.
[13:13] <eeee> funkt: dunno if this would work,
[13:13] <funkt> ok!
[13:14] <tiny> Marano: it's for my father in law. I use fluxbox on my machines.
[13:14] <eeee> hold on
[13:14] <funkt> ok!
[13:14] <Marano> tiny: Gnome will use around 800MB+ while Xfce will use just 120MB+, which path do you wish to choose?
[13:15] <tiny> Marano: yeah, I know. But I'm not going to convert a 60 year old.
[13:15] <cristian_c> lol
[13:15] <cristian_c> mega-split
[13:15] <tiny> Marano: yeah, I know. But I'm not going to convert a 60 year old.
[13:15] <eeee> funkt: can you right click on the desktop and press change background?
[13:15] <tiny> fluxbox is even lighter then xfce ;-)
[13:15] <tiny> Marano: ^
[13:16] <eeee> funkt: then click on All Settings, then Display
[13:16] <Eldunar> CLI is EVEN lighter than fluxbox
[13:16] <funkt> ok eeee
[13:16] <tiny> cristian_c: how is it going? you never answered how you connect micro SD card to PC?
[13:16] <Marano> tiny: I see ;)
[13:16] <cristian_c> tiny, the command is ongoing
[13:16] <tiny> Eldunar: not much difference between cli and fluxbox
[13:16] <cristian_c> tiny, It is working
[13:16] <funkt> ok eeee
[13:16] <Eldunar> so why even bother with fluxbox?
[13:16] <cristian_c> tiny, no, It has done now
[13:16] <cristian_c> :O
[13:16] <tiny> Eldunar: to get GUI programs.
[13:16] <cristian_c> it has finished
[13:17] <tiny> cristian_c: good. Now mount it!
[13:17] <Eldunar> xwindow
[13:17] <cristian_c> dd: scrittura di "/dev/sdb": Errore di input/output
[13:17] <cristian_c> 2524129+0 record dentro
[13:17] <cristian_c> 2524128+0 record fuori
[13:17] <eeee> funkt: can you change the resolution there?
[13:17] <cristian_c> 1292353536 byte (1,3 GB) copiati, 336,401 s, 3,8 MB/s
[13:17] <cristian_c> :(
[13:17] <funkt> No it is locked
[13:17] <funkt> No other option is available
[13:18] <eeee> ok
[13:18] <tiny> cristian_c: I think your card is ready to be thrown into trash.
[13:18] <funkt> apart from 640 x 480
[13:18] <cristian_c> tiny, do I try again?
[13:18] <funkt> Unfortunately I cannot access detect displays either
[13:18] <tiny> cristian_c: no, do: sudo mount | grep sdb
[13:18] <cristian_c> ok
[13:18] <funkt> as because I am locked in this resolution I cannot reach the button
[13:19] <funkt> the window is too big
[13:19] <cristian_c> tiny, the command retujrns nothing
[13:19] <cristian_c> *returns
[13:19] <eeee> funkt: you could use <tab> but i'm not sure it would pick up anything
[13:19] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, now do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1
[13:19] <cristian_c> tiny, have I to mount it?
[13:19] <tiny> cristian_c: no
[13:19] <cristian_c> tiny, ah, ok
[13:19] <eeee> i could load a vm and see how many tab clicks you'd have to press
[13:19] <eeee> (im running 14.04)
[13:19] <eeee> might be different
[13:20] <funkt> Thats very kind let me try on my laptop
[13:20] <fagner> kl
[13:20] <tiny> cristian_c: also, can you paste last ten lines of dmesg
[13:20] <cristian_c> 1+0 record dentro
[13:20] <cristian_c> 1+0 record fuori
[13:20] <cristian_c> 1048576 byte (1,0 MB) copiati, 0,099414 s, 10,5 MB/s
[13:20] <cristian_c> !paste
[13:20] <cristian_c> uhm, bot is out
[13:21] <funkt> eeee no nothing
[13:21] <tiny> cristian_c: what is dmesg showing? Any IO errors?
[13:21] <funkt> It seems to have dectected a laptop screen when I am on a desktop with a monitor eeee
[13:21] <tiny> cristian_c: brb
[13:22] <eeee> what was the hardware update you did?
[13:22] <cristian_c> tiny, yeah, after I typed the last dd command
[13:22] <funkt> I am really not sure
 cristian_c: ok, now do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1
[13:22] <funkt> I think it just came up with a list and good old ubunutu usally just installs and its all plain sailing!
[13:23] <cristian_c> tiny, http://pastebin.com/3HiqR4cR
[13:23] <Lenton> Do files inherit their group from directories they are in?
[13:23] <funkt> Is there any way I could do something like a window rollback or remove an updated package?
[13:24] <tiny> cristian_c: I'm suspecting hardware problems.
[13:24] <funkt> I know when I try sudo update it tells me there is a broken package
[13:24] <tiny> cristian_c:  you could recreate partitions with fdisk for example and create new filesystem but I believe problems will persist.
[13:24] <cristian_c> tiny, previously, I was suggested to correct the heads in the sd card
[13:24] <funkt> I have tried fixing it but to no avail
[13:25] <cristian_c> tiny, testdisk showed 246 instead of 255
[13:25] <eeee> funkt: what are you using for the graphics ? the open source driver?
[13:25] <cristian_c> and it said me to change geometry
[13:26] <cristian_c> and it said me to change geometry
[13:26] <funkt> sorry eeee could explain in better terms?
[13:26] <eeee> funkt: type software-properties-gtk
[13:26] <eeee> funkt: and go to the last tab, additional drivers'=
[13:27] <tiny> cristian_c: hmm, not familiar with testdisk. You might have problems with android system reading card differently then your PC.
[13:27] <tiny> cristian_c: it happened to me already.
[13:27] <tiny> cristian_c: anyway, dd failed so that's not good.
[13:27] <funkt> eeee the last tab is statistics
[13:27] <cristian_c> tiny, ok
[13:28] <funkt> eeee it opened software sources yes?
[13:28] <cristian_c> tiny, but can I reverse backup the .dd file on another device?
[13:28] <eeee> funkt: yeah it should
[13:28] <funkt> The last tab is statistics eeee
[13:28] <cristian_c> tiny, throwing card in the trash and purchasing another card
[13:29] <cristian_c> tiny, copying the dd content to the new card
[13:29] <tiny> cristian_c: yes, you'll need to loop mount the filesystem. First you'll need to extract filesystem image from it though. Use dd and skip option. Then something like: mount -t loop -o vfat filename /path/to/mountdir
[13:29] <eeee> funkt: go to the dash, and type drivers
[13:29] <funkt> Ok I am in additional drivers eeee,
[13:29] <tiny> cristian_c: usually there are 512 bytes before partition data starts.
[13:30] <cristian_c> tiny, it seems difficult
 cristian_c: yes, you'll need to loop mount the filesystem. First you'll need to extract filesystem image from it though. Use dd and skip option. Then something like: mount -t loop -o vfat filename /path/to/mountdir
[13:30] <eeee> ok, what does it say? does it mention any graphics drivers?
[13:31] <cristian_c> I'm not very expert of this stuff
[13:31] <funkt> sorry bud its still loading eeee
[13:31] <funkt> eeee it mentions nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[13:32] <tiny> cristian_c: do: hexdump -n 1000 -C /path/to/ddbackupfile
[13:32] <tiny> and paste it
[13:32] <funkt> and there looks like a grey form select circle
[13:32] <funkt> But It will not highlight when clicked
[13:32] <tiny> cristian_c: also paste: file /path/to/ddbackupfile
[13:33] <Cavani> Hi people! I am a new user on Ubuntu (14.04 gnome3). I am a player of some flash games on the web... So I have the graphics very slow (On W7 I had not, that runs OK) .... Windows7 was removed tottaly in this laptop, Only remains Ubuntu. It is great!! This games are my hobby. I don't wanna go back to W7 because this silliness
[13:33] <funkt> eeee, I have managed to shrink the window and its now installing the driver! Not sure of the outcome yet!
[13:34] <eeee> funkt: what? lol
[13:34] <funkt> I know
[13:34] <funkt> its downloading the driver!
[13:34] <eeee> funkt: no i mean, not what in a good way
[13:34] <eeee> lol
[13:34] <tiny> cristian_c: also paste: fdisk -l /path/to/ddbackupfile
[13:34] <funkt> oHH
[13:34] <cristian_c> tiny, http://pastebin.com/SaryrxhT
[13:34] <eeee> i thought you were already using the nvidia driver
[13:34] <Enissay_> How to stop all active torrents from command line in rtorrent ?
[13:34] <eeee> ?
[13:34] <eeee> i was reading about how to reinstall it
[13:34] <funkt> I couldnt reach the window to see if it had been activated or not?
[13:35] <eeee> i dont know, i guess i hope it works!
[13:35] <funkt> just restarting!
[13:35] <funkt> I hope so especially after all your help!
[13:35] <cristian_c> tiny, http://pastebin.com/mFnyYbSP
[13:36] <funkt> Bingo!
[13:36] <eeee> i tried the amd driver once and it didn't work as good as the open source one so i reinstalled
[13:36] <eeee> it worked?
[13:36] <funkt> there it is!
[13:36] <eeee> cool
[13:36] <funkt> yep!
[13:36] <funkt> wow!
[13:36] <funkt> thanks soo much for all your help!
[13:36] <eeee> test it out move the windows and stuff
[13:36] <funkt> appreciate that ten fold !!
[13:36] <eeee> cuz if you find it's not as good as before
[13:37] <eeee> i think you can reinstall the open source ones, and they'd work again, i hope
[13:37] <eeee> (with the right resolution i mean)
[13:37] <funkt> All looks clean as a whistle!
[13:37] <eeee> cool
[13:37] <Cavani> Hi! How could I get help here?
[13:38] <funkt> Thank you so much for your help eeee!
[13:38] <funkt> good man cheers!
[13:38] <eeee> you're welcome
[13:38] <funkt> appreciate all those xrandr codes as well! learnt some new stuff
[13:38] <eeee> haha, yeah
[13:38] <funkt> thank you! lol
[13:38] <eeee> :D
[13:38] <mauryaarun> how to install unity8 and mir on my ubuntu 14.10 alpha2
[13:39] <eeee> np
[13:39] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, paste that last one fdisk -l
[13:39] <cristian_c> tiny, classic fdisk -l?
[13:39] <cristian_c> the common fdisk
[13:39] <tiny> cristian_c: no: fdisk -l /path/to/ddbackupfile
[13:39] <cristian_c> ok
[13:40] <cristian_c> tiny, but i've pasted it
 tiny, http://pastebin.com/mFnyYbSP
[13:41] <cristian_c> sudo fdisk -l /media/cristian/64C886C730A45592/Other/microsd/microsd.dd
[13:41] <tiny> cristian_c: that's all? No partitions?
[13:41] <tiny> how did you backed up? What command exactly did you use?
[13:42] <cristian_c> tiny, i dont' see partitions
[13:42] <tiny> cristian_c: you should have sdb1 partition in there
[13:43] <tiny> cristian_c: you didn't paste: file /media/cristian/64C886C730A45592/Other/microsd/microsd.dd
[13:43] <cristian_c> tiny, I remember the dd command was provided in this channel
[13:43] <cristian_c> maybe ben64 user
[13:44] <cristian_c> but I don't remeber exactly the syntax
[13:44] <cristian_c> *don't remember
[13:44] <cristian_c> tiny, /media/cristian/64C886C730A45592/Other/microsd/microsd.dd: x86 boot sector
[13:45] <tiny> that's all?
[13:45] <cristian_c> tiny, yeah
[13:46] <tiny> ok try this, it might work, who knows: mount -o ro,loop,offset=512 microsd.dd /mnt/somedir
[13:46] <cristian_c> tiny, from the .dd location?
[13:47] <tiny> cristian_c: ok try this, it might work, who knows: mount -o ro,loop,offset=512 /path/to/microsd.dd /mnt/somedir
[13:47] <cristian_c> ok
[13:48] <cristian_c> tiny, it's working
[13:48] <tiny> can you cd into mounted directory and see files?
[13:48] <cristian_c> mount: il mount point /mnt/somedir non esiste
[13:48] <cristian_c> :(
[13:49] <cristian_c> tiny, mkdir?
[13:49] <tiny> cristian_c: you need to have existing directory
[13:49] <cristian_c> ok
[13:49] <tiny> cristian_c: yes, for example: mkdir /mnt/card
[13:49] <cristian_c> tiny, I think i've got available space on my hard disk
[13:49] <cristian_c> :)
[13:50] <tiny> cristian_c: then do: mount -o ro,loop,offset=512 /path/to/microsd.dd /mnt/card
[13:51] <cristian_c> tiny, mount: si deve specificare il tipo di filesystem
[13:51] <cristian_c> I translate
[13:51] <tiny> no need I understand
[13:51] <luminous> Hello! how can I confirm the version of a package installed? apt-cache search doesn't seem to tell you
[13:52] <tiny> cristian_c: try:  mount -t vfat -o ro,loop,offset=512 /path/to/microsd.dd /mnt/card
[13:52] <Pici> luminous: apt-cache policy packagename
[13:52] <luminous> policy?
[13:52] <cristian_c> tiny, 'it is needed to specifying filesytem type'
[13:52] <Pici> luminous: will show you what is installed, and what is available.
[13:52] <tiny> cristian_c: yes I know, look up ^
[13:52] <cristian_c> tiny, ok, I try
[13:52] <luminous> wow, apt-* rarely maps to sensible constructs in one's mind
[13:52] <luminous> thanks Pici
[13:53] <Pici> luminous: apt-get is for performing actions against apt, apt-cache is for queries.
[13:53] <cristian_c> tiny, ok, it seems the original problem it's appeared
[13:53] <cristian_c> !paste
[13:54] <tiny> cristian_c: ?
[13:54] <cristian_c> tiny, the original superblock error
[13:54] <luminous> Pici: my point is that "apt-cache policy" is not sensible of a command map for what it does
[13:54] <cristian_c> tiny, the same I had before using fsck, I think
[13:54] <Pici> luminous: true.
[13:54] <dave_s> Does anyone know of a FTP control panel or desktop application that will let me manage an FTP server relatively easily?
[13:54] <luminous> I installed gnome 3.10 on 12.04 LTS, used the system for a while (let upgrades do their thing), and while apt-get/cache seem to show gnome 3.10 as installed, I have lost the awesome UI interface and seem to be in gnome legacy mode
[13:54] <tiny> cristian_c: what was the output of that command?
[13:55] <cristian_c> tiny, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961329/
[13:55] <luminous> where would I find the controls for this, or does it sound like I rolled back a version of a package?
[13:55] <cristian_c> tiny, I don't remember, but I had that when i tried to mount it in the file manager
[13:55] <cfhowlett> dave_s, Software Center search for "ftp"     ... many options
[13:56] <cfhowlett> dave_s, "PureAdmin" administer and monitor your FTP server
[13:56] <cristian_c> tiny, I can translate the message in the terminal
[13:56] <tiny> cristian_c: no need
[13:56] <cristian_c> ok
[13:56] <hateball> dave_s: there is also gadmin-proftpd
[13:57] <fake_> any programmer here can help me? :(
[13:57] <cristian_c> tiny, the original bug it was related to the superblock error
[13:57] <sydney> What is the wording o install network tools in ubuntu terminal?
[13:57] <sydney> to*
[13:57] <sydney> i must have uninstalled it :-/
[13:58] <dave_s> cfhowlett, hateball: I would prefer something Web based, or at least cross-platform if it's desktop. Sadly our IT idiot won't let me use Ubuntu primarily because "chatter".
[13:58] <Crowe167> Hi
[13:58] <luminous> sydney: apt-cache search network | grep tools | less  will let you figure out what you want
[13:58] <BesTtT> Crowe167 Hi
[13:59] <sydney> luminous: it is called 'network tools' in UBC
[13:59] <cfhowlett> dave_s, that's ... a shameful.  On my behalf, please set his desktop language to Old World Latin and change his fonts to dingbats
[13:59] <Crowe167> I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and want to install it. My WiFi crashed every minute with the error code 14=MIC_FAILURE. It's a RTL8723be. How can i fix it?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> fake ... a programming channel this isn't. you might find #bash or #python helpful
[14:00] <TLoFP> hi everyone, in the terminal is there a command to shorten the path name?
[14:00] <Jackmawer> cfhowlett, hi Yoda!
[14:00] <luminous> sydney: find it's real name (for the package), and use apt-get install <pkg>
[14:00] <dave_s> cfhowlett: That's so horribly devious, I love it. Why have I never thought to do this?
[14:00] <TLoFP> lets say I cd into an obsenly long path, how can I tell the terminal NOT to display the entire path
[14:01] <dave_s> Our cloud is all Ubuntu though.
[14:01] <asianetplus> Hello guys is there any way i can install the driver for ati radeon 8670 i have hp laptop hybrid graphics
[14:01] <Jackmawer> TLoFP i think you can change the terminal prompt, not sure
[14:01] <cfhowlett> TLoFP, interesting question.  I THINK you can set a location alias.  Don't know how though.
[14:02] <cfhowlett> dave_s, www.reddit.com/r/pettyrevenge
[14:02] <luminous> asianetplus: if you go to the ati/amd site, or maybe ubuntu wiki, there are instructions on adding a PPA for the drivers, then you can get the updated blobs
[14:02] <Jackmawer> TLoFP maybe just make a symo symbolic link?
[14:02] <Jackmawer> Not symo lol
[14:02] <luminous> TLoFP: that's configured in bash/your shell
[14:02] <Crowe167> Hi again, now on a laptop ;)
[14:03] <tiny> cristian_c: try maybe this:  mount -o ro,loop /path/to/microsd.dd /mnt/card
[14:03] <asianetplus> luminous: I have tried that but my ubuntu freezes on startup saying low graphics or some
[14:03] <luminous> asianetplus: are you sure it is supported?
[14:03] <luminous> (the chip)
[14:03] <luminous> are you sure you have the correct firmware blob?
[14:04] <Jackmawer> ^v^v^v^v^
[14:04] <Jackmawer> Whoops
[14:04] <asianetplus> luminous: I think so i have downloaded from amd site its working in 32 bit but not with 64 bit i dont know why
[14:05] <cristian_c> tiny, mount: /dev/loop0: impossibile leggere il superblocco
[14:05] <cristian_c> unable reading superblock
[14:05] <luminous> asianetplus: try using the PPA as I described
[14:05] <tiny> cristian_c: ok, don't know how to help. Looks like your dd image wan't properly created
[14:05] <asianetplus>  luminous: Also my system is working with kubuntu still no graphics device loaded coz i cant lower my brightness
[14:06] <luminous> asianetplus: search ubuntu wiki for radeon howtos
[14:06] <Crowe167> I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, burned it onto a DVD and not I want to install it on my Lenovo G50-30. My WiFi/WLAN crashes every time after I downloaded ~1000KB. It's a RTL8723BE. Error Code: 14=MIC_FAILURE. How can I fix this?
[14:06] <cristian_c> tiny, ok, thank you very much for the help
[14:06] <cristian_c> :)
[14:06] <Crowe167> *now
[14:06] <luminous> Crowe167: you might need to install binary blob firmware for the chip
[14:07] <Crowe167> luminous: Can you tell me how?
[14:07] <luminous> Crowe167: run the install with wired network, then try sorting out the chip
[14:07] <Orphis_> I'm having tons of issues trying to transfer a large file over rsync+ssh
[14:07] <asianetplus> luminous: i will thank you i want to make sure its not a bug if it is dont have to waste time on that
[14:07] <luminous> Crowe167: not specifically, unfortunately. I remove all wifi chips from my laptops
[14:07] <Orphis_> The connection is supposed to be reliable, but ssh fails pretty often, the transfer stalls and then fails
[14:08] <Crowe167> luminous: My english is not good, but wired = LAN/Ethernet?
[14:08] <Orphis_> I got into issues also with rsync breaking protocol in newer versions, which is really ridiculous
[14:08] <Orphis_> Any idea on how I could transfer large files then?
[14:09] <Orphis_> And any idea why ssh became so unreliable in trusty when transferring data?
[14:09] <Crowe167> luminous: I don't have a ethernet cable here right now, and my router is in the other room, it seems bad for me :(
[14:09] <cristian_c> tiny, bye
[14:09] <tiny> cristian_c: later
[14:10] <Crowe167> luminous: Are you still here?
[14:10] <ge0rJey> i had completely purged cups samba smbclient firefox and other stuff i dont need on ubuntu 14.04 system.
[14:11] <ge0rJey> but everytime i upgrade they get reinstalled
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  sudo ap-get autoremove
[14:11] <ge0rJey> how do i make them not reappear everytime i upgrade
[14:12] <Crowe167> I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, burned it onto a DVD and now I want to install it on my Lenovo G50-30. My WiFi/WLAN crashes every time after I downloaded ~1000KB. It's a RTL8723BE. Error Code: 14=MIC_FAILURE. How can I fix this?
[14:12] <sydney> luminous: found it :)
[14:12] <ge0rJey> MonkeyDust, i've done autoremove , autoclean and clean multiple times
[14:12] <ge0rJey> its not helping
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Crowe167, you can install without wifi and fix it post-installation
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  paste this line in a terminal, i picked it up here, it purges even more thoroughly    dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[14:13] <Crowe167> cfhowlett: I want to fix this problem before i install Ubuntu
[14:13] <foolhardy> I have an ubuntu 12.04 server vm and I'm finding that the nightly suspend (for backups) causes the clock to be off, making it slower and slower by each  night.
[14:13] <foolhardy> How do I go about telling ubuntu to pull time daily from NTP?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Crowe167, good luck with that.
[14:13] <Crowe167> cfhowlett: Why?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Crowe167, because you'll find it difficult to configure a wifi driver during live session.  MUCH easier after install is completed
[14:14] <slitux____> cristian_c: have you solved your problem (with the sd card)
[14:14] <Crowe167> cfhowlett: Okay, can you tell me how can i fix it AFTER a complete installation?
[14:15] <ge0rJey> MonkeyDust, Dude WTF, its  purging and removing all the configuration files in my system
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  it purges all obsolete files, been using it for years
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  it purges all obsolete config files, been using it for years
[14:16] <ge0rJey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961494/
[14:16] <sbalneav> Anybody else being bit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1352876 ?
[14:17] <sbalneav> I have several servers that are segfaulting on different programs after the latest glib update.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  maybe they're old files
[14:18] <ge0rJey> oh ok. sorry for the overreaction,i panicked when i saw that.
[14:18] <ge0rJey> running it again
[14:18] <slitux____> cristian_c: have you solved your problem (with the sd card)
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  it's also wise to have backups
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  and if you're not certain or worried, don't run it
[14:20] <ge0rJey> i have a backup of my home directory
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> great
[14:24] <dpasqualin> Hi there, I'm having some trouble with apt-get dist-upgrade. I have a package called minicom-server-all which had le-autoupgrade as dependency. Recently I changed the name of the package le-autoupgrade to minicom-autoupgrade (using the replace/conflict/provide thing), and I also changed the name in the Depends of minicom-server-all to minicom-autoupgrade. Unfortunetely apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade will not replace the package, no error, just
[14:24] <dpasqualin> "we will keep the le-autoupgrade". However, if I run apt-get install (or upgrade) minicom-server-all, apt replaces the package as expected.
[14:26] <mawmaw> hey guys, I have gnome shell and the search bar doesn't look for files, only applications, how do I make it look for files on my hard disk?
[14:30] <slitux____> cristian_c: are you always here ?
[14:30] <cristian_c> slitux____, no
[14:30] <slitux____> :)
[14:30] <cristian_c> I've not solved
[14:30] <slitux____> :(
[14:32] <rodney77> Hi, could someone please help me? I'm running 14.04 and the text on my screen is enormous
[14:32] <tomodachi> rodney77: sounds like your resolution is low
[14:32] <tomodachi> try increasing it
[14:32] <rodney77> tomodachi, thanks, but the resolution is correct. I actually have a high density screen
[14:33] <slitux____> cristian_c: what if you do 'cat /dev/full > /dev/sdb', and then try to create a new partition system in your card (assuming your card is /dev/sdb, of course)
[14:33] <rodney77> it's so hi res that I need to go into display settings and scale menu and title bars
[14:33] <rodney77> however, i reset this to 1 and my text is still huge
[14:33] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've unplugged everything, now
[14:34] <slitux____> ok
[14:34] <cristian_c> slitux____, but I can try today
[14:34] <cristian_c> slitux____, what does it make this command?
[14:34] <cristian_c> :)
[14:34] <ge0rJey> MonkeyDust, thanks for the onliner, worked like a charm. not sure why it removed configs for rxvt and other few apps which are still installed but seems like older configs from /usr/share locations instead of the home directories one..
[14:35] <ge0rJey> were removed
[14:35] <slitux____> cristian_c: it erases all on your card
[14:35] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok
[14:35] <rodney77> tomodachi, this is what my screen looks like: https://imgur.com/vABrRMz
[14:36] <cristian_c> slitux____, anyway, tiny has told me maybe the .dd backup can have been badly
[14:36] <cristian_c> in past
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  glad i could help
[14:36] <slitux____> cristian_c: and are they importants files in the backup
[14:37] <cristian_c> slitux____, but if I rescue the sd card anyway, it would be a good thing :)
[14:37] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think there were impòrtant files
[14:37] <ge0rJey> MonkeyDust, and the firefox getting upgraded even when uninstalled happens to be bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/800857  , smh :)
[14:38] <cristian_c> slitux____, but rescue the device (the card, not data), it would be a good thing, anyway
[14:38] <cristian_c> *rescuing
[14:38] <cristian_c> :)
[14:38] <slitux____> cristian_c: did you changed the card content, after the backup ?
[14:38] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've tried the suggestions users have provided to me
[14:38] <dpasqualin> Hi. I have a legacy "unattended upgrade" package which should automatically upgrade the system with apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade. In order to avoid user interation we also have a export DEBIAN_FRONTEND="noninteractive". But sometimes the dist-upgrade still tries to interact asking to keep or not config files. Any ideas?
[14:39] <cristian_c> slitux____, I've typed the fsck command
[14:39] <cristian_c> etc...
[14:39] <slitux____> cristian_c: just to know did you changed the card content, after the backup ?
[14:39] <slitux____> cristian_c: and what is the size of the card ?
[14:40] <cristian_c> slitux____, 8 GB
[14:40] <cristian_c> slitux____, I tried also to change geometry
[14:40] <ge0rJey> MonkeyDust, if you dont mind, how do you keep these onliners documented
[14:41] <cristian_c> testdisk said there were 246 heads instead of 255
[14:41] <slitux____> cristian_c: and the backup have the same size ? (else, its bad, i think)
[14:41] <cristian_c> slitux____, similar
[14:41] <slitux____> cristian_c: ok,
[14:41] <slitux____> cristian_c: is the card connected to your computer now?
[14:42] <cristian_c> slitux____, no, as I have said
[14:42] <cristian_c> :(
[14:42] <cristian_c> I've unplugged everything
[14:42] <slitux____> cristan_c: but today is today
[14:43] <fastminer> HI Guys, is there a way to addmore space to root partition? I need more space on sda1 and there is plenty to take from sdb1, can I do this without affectig files in it?
[14:43] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok, I've found: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/31/%23ubuntu.html
[14:44] <slitux____> cristian_c: 16:38:54 <cristian_c> slitux____, but I can try today
[14:44] <cristian_c> ben64, grrr
[14:44] <cristian_c> always him
[14:44] <cristian_c> :(
[14:44] <cristian_c> slitux____, yeah
[14:45] <cristian_c> and reisio
[14:45] <fastminer> any ideas?
[14:45] <cristian_c> slitux____, not now, but today
[14:46] <molossus> does anyone know of a Desktop environment other than cinnamon or xfce that will use less ram than windows 8.1,  on the same laptop i have windows 8.1 uses no more than 2 GB of ram with google chrome 10 tabs open , photoshopcs6, ,and on ubuntu 14.04 cinnamon or xfce , it uses about 1.8GB of ram , seems like windows 8.1 handles ram usage better, are there any tips and tricks to improve memory management on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:46] <slitux____> cristian_c: what time is it for you ?
[14:49] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think evening or night
[14:49] <cristian_c> utc
[14:49] <cristian_c> greenwich
[14:49] <slitux____> cristian_c: you are (GMT +0) ?
[14:50] <cristian_c> +2
 cristian_c: what if you do 'cat /dev/full > /dev/sdb', and then try to create a new partition system in your card (assuming your card is /dev/sdb, of course)
[14:50] <cristian_c> slitux____, I'll do this
[14:50] <slitux____> that's not greenwith time
[14:50] <cristian_c> utc+2
[14:50] <slitux____> *greenwich
[14:51] <cristian_c> slitux____, wirh that command, have I to type other commands?
[14:51] <slitux____> cristian_c: don't forget that 'cat /dev/full > /dev/sdb' will overwrite all on your card (assuming your card is /dev/sdb, of course)
[14:51] <paulo_> hello
[14:51] <paulo_> how do I change apt-get's source?
[14:52] <paulo_> it cant resolve the one it uses
[14:52] <cristian_c> slitux____, I think it's corrupted, but i'd like to rescue the device (not data)
[14:52] <cristian_c> slitux____, thanks for the help
[14:52] <cristian_c> :)
[14:52] <slitux____> cristian_c: you type that and see, but if you get an error, it's certenly corupted
[14:52] <cristian_c> slitux____, ok
[14:53] <cristian_c> bye
[14:53] <slitux____> cristian_c: before, check that sdb is the right device!
[14:53] <slitux____> bye
[14:53] <cristian_c> yes
[14:53] <mlindner> How do I switch from 14.04 to 14.04 LTS?
[14:53] <cristian_c> bye
[14:54] <Pici> mlindner: They are one in the same. There is no distinction.
[14:54] <wulong710> hello. My wireless is at9287. It is unstable,  disconnect internet after running for a while. Ubuntu14.04 show me error  "ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x18f!".   Error log is here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237796. Anyone had met this problem?
[14:55] <vibedigital> Hi, I have a problem to see mails in roundcube mailbox
[14:55] <vibedigital> postfix+dovecot
[14:55] <vibedigital> I can send mails
[14:55] <vibedigital> and i receive them in maildir
[14:56] <vibedigital> but cant see them in roundcube
[14:56] <vibedigital> someone can help?
[14:57] <mlindner> Pici: really? So 14.04 users have to go through special steps to upgrade to 14.10?
[14:57] <mlindner> as it will think of it as LTS and not offer it as an option?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> mlindner  14.04 IS an lts
[15:00] <DJones> mlindner: By default, LTS releases are set to just upgrade to the next LTS, if a user wants to upgrade to the non-LTS releases, they just have to tick a box in the update manager to show non-LTS upgrades
[15:05] <nispr0> where do I change ntp server in ubuntu terminal?
[15:06] <Tzunamii> nispr0: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> nispr0  or this http://askubuntu.com/questions/178968/how-to-configure-ntp-time-synchronization-on-a-server
[15:09] <rakesh_> #glugdsce
[15:12] <Cavani> Hi people! I am a new user on Ubuntu (14.04 gnome3). I am a player of some flash games on the web... So I have the graphics very slow (On W7 I had not, that runs OK) ....
[15:12] <Cavani> Windows7 was removed tottaly in this laptop, Only remains Ubuntu. It is great!! This games are my hobby. I don't wanna go back to W7 because this silliness
[15:15] <kriskropd> Cavani: Are you using gnash or adobe's flash? and what browser?
[15:16] <joyce> QUESTION>  I am looking for a sound card that will work with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS going into an HP proliant ML310e
[15:17] <Cavani> Hi Kriskropd! I'm using Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202....
[15:18] <Cavani> 11,2,202,394 version of flash player, sorry for repeat
[15:20] <Cavani> kriskropd: sorry for the last information insufficient; I am using Adobe flash player 11.2.202.394 on Firefox
[15:22] <kriskropd> thats strange - you should try leaving the process monitor open while playing a game to see which process is eating your cpu or ram the most
[15:25] <mathnoob> speedcrunch can't calculate 'e'
[15:25] <RayLim1980> hi there
[15:27] <pcre> I am looking for a program to calculate hash file. Some gui. Is this one ok ?
[15:27] <pcre> https://github.com/d4ndo/checksumjack
[15:28] <pcre> Is there a gnome version?
[15:30] <cwonrails> hello all, just installed Xubuntu on my ancient Macbook after running via VM / Vagrant for a while, do you mastermen suggest just going with an external mouse? don't want to brick my install by screwing with trackpad settings
[15:31] <qjqqyy> cwonrails, its impossible to brick anything with trackpad settings
[15:31] <cwonrails> ok cool
[15:31] <qjqqyy> unless you're talking about "trackpad settings ;)"
[15:31] <cwonrails> any recommended downloads via apt-get?
[15:31] <kriskropd> Cavani: keep the chat in here - so others can see/learn/help
[15:32] <cwonrails> yeah I did that and turned it up to way sensitive
[15:32] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  At my wits end with this rtl8192ce.  Any recommendations for a wireless card that actually works with ubuntu 14.04?
[15:32] <cwonrails> just didn't know if there was a package/PPA specific to apple trackpad :) thanks a lot for your help by the way!
[15:34] <cwonrails> @MarcGuay have you gone through this guide? http://askubuntu.com/questions/500310/wifi-drops-and-reconnects-with-ubuntu-14-04-realtek-rtl8188
[15:35] <nfi|ermes> hi all
[15:35] <Luyin> moin
[15:35] <nfi|ermes> ubuntu 14.04
[15:36] <nfi|ermes> crontab seems not working
[15:36] <joyce> Does anyone know of a sound card that will work with Ubuntu 14.04 LTE & work in a PCI slot
[15:36] <MarcGuay> cwonrails: I've gone through every single guide on the internet.
[15:36] <nfi|ermes> in /etc/crontab i have:     02 17  5 8 * root /root/scripts/maintenance.sh
[15:36] <MarcGuay> cwonrails: I have also installed freedomben's drivers and they made it worse.
[15:37] <cwonrails> :(
[15:37] <MarcGuay> Just plugged in the ethernet cable from 1999.
[15:37] <MarcGuay> Pure rage
[15:37] <cwonrails> yeah I had to pull mine out and dust it off to get the bwire43 etc. etc. for my broadcom
[15:39] <skered> Is there anyway to turn on Remote Desktop via the command line?  I want to turn on whatever Settings->Preferences->Remote Desktop turns on.
[15:40] <Cavani> kriskropd: displaying the heavyier processes...
[15:41] <Cavani> firefox, 884 mb .... plugin container: 658mb ... gnome shell: 233mb
[15:41] <kriskropd> Cavani: how is that relative to your resources? percentage, for instance
[15:42] <kriskropd> Cavani: and how is your cpu?
[15:42] <kriskropd> Cavani: lag is usually relative to the cpu working too hard, not the memory being full
[15:42] <kriskropd> usually~
[15:43] <Cavani> in % of CPU, the most are: plugin container, 24% ... gnome shell, 6%
[15:43] <codephobic> hi
[15:43] <Joost`> Is there a 'standard go-to' when it comes to software for running remote backups? What would you guys use/recommend?
[15:44] <codephobic> anyone else finding firefox to be seriously unstable in Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:44] <t0th_-_> hi
[15:44] <codephobic> keeps crashing, sometimes loses session state and generally consumes more cpu than it used to.
[15:44] <t0th_-_> how i can configure my ubuntu to get only stable updates ?
[15:45] <Cavani> I have 3gb RAM, Toshiba satellite Intel core i3 2350 M CPU @ 2.30 ghz
[15:46] <Cavani> 64 bits
[15:46] <Cavani> x86_64
[15:47] <Cavani> I have adsl connection, relatively stable, 3mb speed
[15:48] <AlphaG> Hi
[15:49] <kriskropd> Cavani: your flash is lagging while playing a game and only using 24% cpu?
[15:49] <joyce> Does anyone know of a sound card that will work with Ubuntu 14.04 LTE & work in a PCI slot in a Proliant ML310e.  Been trying since June to get an answer
[15:49] <AlphaG> First time irc via androidirc
[15:50] <kriskropd> !offtopic
[15:50] <Cavani> I don't know if it is the flash... but the plugin container its on 24-26% of using cpu
[15:50] <Eldunar> hello guys, can u tell me if it is possible to add deadbeef audioplayer to audio icon in tray ( there is other music player and Vlc ) u know what i mean?
[15:50] <kriskropd> Cavani: but, while playing a game? or are you just idling?
[15:50] <capable> Cavani: Flash and Firefox are both not particularly well made applications
[15:51] <capable> Eldunar: yes, I'm sure, some way
[15:51] <capable> Eldunar: is that emulated?
[15:51] <joyce> \#ubuntu-offtopic
[15:51] <kriskropd> Cavani: is your cpu maxing out in total while playing?
[15:51] <Eldunar> not, its common music lighweight music player
[15:51] <capable> Eldunar: okay
[15:51] <matty_r> Hey all, just wondering how I view the logs for when my system boots up. I see an error on the screen and need to know what it said
[15:51] <Cavani> ok capable
[15:52] <joyce> \join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <Cavani> let me see, kriskropd
[15:52] <ldiamond> According to free -m, I have 13GB free memory and 5GB is used: ":-/+ buffers/cache:       5038      13025"
[15:52] <kriskropd> joyce: forward slash /
[15:52] <ldiamond> My understanding is that this line reports the actual usage by application, ignoring the buffers and caches.
[15:52] <capable> matty_r: /var/log/boot.log
[15:52] <matty_r> capable: ahh cheers mate, i'll check it out
[15:53] <ldiamond> I have almost nothing running though, does anyone know commands that will show me exactly what this memory is committed to?
[15:53] <Eldunar> i wanted to controll it via plugin in cairo dock, but it was not supported also:P
[15:53] <chry> ciao!
[15:53] <chry> !list
[15:53] <Cavani> in orange and red, sometimes is on 54%
[15:53] <capable> Eldunar: might check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/how-to-re-enable-tray-icons-for-applications-in-ubuntu-13-10
[15:53] <kriskropd> ldiamond: did you check with top/htop/ps/process manager/ etc ?
[15:53] <capable> matty_r: let us know how it goes
[15:54] <Cavani> in all, sorry, orange, red, blue, green
[15:54] <ldiamond> kriskropd, yes
[15:54] <ldiamond> kriskropd, it just doesn't add up.
[15:54] <matty_r> capable: there is some good info in there but it doesn't have the error I saw. You know the screen that has something like [      9.2311 ] info goes here. It was before that screen.
[15:55] <capable> matty_r: might check /var/log/dmesg
[15:55] <capable> matty_r: sometimes if you hit the 'pause' button (y'know that button you never use)
[15:55] <capable> matty_r: during boot up, it will actually pause the output
[15:55] <Cavani> kriskropd, not exactly in max; + or - 54-60% in any colour...
[15:55] <matty_r> capable: ha ha never thought of that. I'll have a look at that log now.
[15:56] <kriskropd> Cavani: it sounds like it's running fine then - anything under 75% is usually considered a fair load average
[15:56] <kriskropd> Cavani: and yet flash is still lagging, correct?
[15:56] <Eldunar> hmm... but i have tray icon:) I need to controll music player y music tray icon ( u know there is volume music player ( previous stop/play next) same with video player and audio settings;) there is gmusic browser but i want there deadbeef
[15:56] <capable> matty_r: doesn't always work, but that's essentially its only remaining purpose
[15:56] <Cavani> correct, still lagging
[15:56] <capable> Eldunar: I find keyboard shortcuts quicker than wiggling mice
[15:57] <kriskropd> Cavani: that is strange - you could try re-installing flash, but honestly your lag doesn't make sense and I'm doubtful a reinstall would fix it
[15:57] <Eldunar> ok so nvm:) ty:)
[15:57] <kriskropd> Cavani: if your game also relies heavily on javascript, that could cause a lot of cpu lag while playing
[15:57] <capable> Eldunar: no I mean, you can definitely get a tray icon
[15:57] <capable> I Just find them less useful, personally =)
[15:58] <kriskropd> Cavani: I'm just throwing ideas now
[15:58] <Eldunar> ok ill try your way:)
[15:59] <matty_r> capable: Ok so that log didn't have it either, think maybe press pause is the best idea?
[16:00] <capable> matty_r: well, it's a quick thing you can try, but there's a log somewhere
[16:00] <capable> matty_r: mostly, though
[16:00] <capable> matty_r: and I know this can be hard to swallow =)
[16:01] <capable> matty_r: but mostly, if an error _message_ isn't actually effecting you
[16:01] <capable> you should ignore it =)
[16:01] <capable> affecting*
[16:01] <matty_r> capable: Well I dont know if it is, i'm having alot of dramas with my Wifi so I want to look into it
[16:01] <capable> problems aren't problems until they are, etc.
[16:01] <capable> matty_r: ah okay, fair enough
[16:02] <matty_r> Brb, i'll try the dodgy way
[16:03] <matty_r> capable: ok so all it did was make a weird  ^]]P symbol and kept going
[16:04] <mlindner> Pici: hey sorry disconnected, did you respond?
[16:04] <capable> matty_r: alright, have to find the right log then =)
[16:04] <capable> matty_r: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20boot%20logs
[16:04] <ldiamond> From what I understand, 5GB is actually used and committed to applications. I guess some of it might be shared memory loading libs and such, but is there a good tool to find out what exactly uses the memory? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a9f2c35966a23ec61f35
[16:05] <matty_r> capable: yea, it was before that dmesg one
[16:05] <capable> matty_r: should be in /var/log/ somewhere, although some distros use an app for the boot log
[16:05] <capable> matty_r: including potentially systemd, depending
[16:05] <matty_r> capable: yea I tried googling it didn't help too much
[16:05] <ldiamond> After a few days, I end up w/ a very large amount of memory used so there's little space for buffers and caches.
[16:05] <matty_r> capable: i'll look around though thanks
[16:05] <capable> someone else here might know, too, g'luck
[16:06] <capable> ldiamond: after a few days of what, leaving the same apps open?
[16:06] <capable> modern GUI apps are not responsible with memory usage, you really want to close them and restart them every now and then
[16:07] <capable> matty_r: /var/log/syslog ? =)
[16:07] <capable> matty_r: or kern
[16:07] <capable> heh
[16:07] <ldiamond> capable, mostly chrome, shells w/ vim for dev and some gaming on steam.
[16:07] <matty_r> capable: i'm looking through the log directory now
[16:07] <ldiamond> capable, 5GB is after I close everything opened.
[16:07] <ldiamond> That's why I'm wondering where this memory is used.
[16:08] <capable> ldiamond: oh
[16:08] <adminewb> (trusty/i386/unity) supposing that an app crashes leaving the screen resolution different from desktop size; what shell-based tools are best to restore order to the screen?
[16:08] <capable> ldiamond: sure you're not talking about this? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:08] <ldiamond> capable, yea I'm taking into account buffers and caches
[16:08] <capable> k =)
[16:08] <ldiamond> otherwise I'm near 90%
[16:09] <capable> ldiamond: you could ask #linux about this
[16:09] <ldiamond> I'm guessing most of the 5GB is shared libs (which I guess doesn't count in buffers and caches). But I want to inspect why it's loaded and what uses it.
[16:09] <capable> more their game, I'd say
[16:12] <matty_r> Ah well, can't find it. If my wifi drops out i'll look into it more, so far it's going ok
[16:13] <matty_r> it did have the word Nouveau in it which has nothing to do with wifi
[16:14] <capable> matty_r: indeed
[16:14] <pdo_fn14> Sorry reconnect, any reactions for my post before?.
[16:14] <capable> matty_r: that's probably just a message about the kernel attempting to load nvidia kms, which you don't need
[16:14] <capable> pdo_fn14: which'n?
[16:14] <matty_r> capable: yea - oh well.. such is life
[16:15] <capable> matty_r: the Ubuntu kernel is very large, and full of things most any system would need
[16:15] <capable> matty_r: it basically loads everything any system would need, so there are going to be little error messages about your system not needing something
[16:15] <pdo_fn14> When I talking about to will upgrading Utopic only for systemd introduction.
[16:15] <capable> at any rate, yeah, nouveau, nothing to do with wifi
[16:15] <capable> pdo_fn14: sometime, or no time
[16:16] <capable> try #crystallballs =)
[16:16] <capable> if you aren't willing to develop yourself, the answer is always: it's done if and when it is in fact done
[16:17] <Pici> pdo_fn14: You can try asking in #ubuntu+1
[16:17] <matty_r> capable: Yea understood -  i've been tearing my hair out trying to get the wifi stable so i've been investigating every little thing on the off chance it's causing it.
[16:17] <capable> sure sure
[16:18] <matty_r> From what I can tell, it's not a well supported wifi chipset
[16:19] <pdo_fn14> (capable): After final or RC only. I getting annoyed why ubuntu's still lowing how to detecting my modem for 3 years.
[16:19] <pdo_fn14> Pici: Thanks.
[16:19] <capable> matty_r: which one is it?
[16:19] <adminewb> (trusty/i386/unity) supposing that an app crashes leaving the screen resolution different from desktop size; what shell-based tools are best to restore order to the screen?
[16:19] <capable> pdo_fn14: what modem?
[16:21] <matty_r> capable: Broadcom BCM4314
[16:21] <pdo_fn14> capable: I using Huawei e173 for almost 13.04 EOL periods, after that Using K3765 for now.
[16:22] <matty_r> capable: Sorry, BCM4313
[16:24] <pdo_fn14> Strangely Ubuntu only works with one USB port when Fedora works with all my usb ports (Although sometime Fedora was undetected my modem).
[16:29] <sevard> i'm watching bug 1352504.   ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1352504 ) the last post from Launchpad Janitor, does that mean the package is now in the security repo?
[16:31] <pdo_fn14> It's really annoying but I'm dedicated to pursue my modem odd, still reminding that Saucy needing to remount my modem to detected well when I using my mouse.
[16:32] <Pici> sevard: It appears that it has been built, whether it has propogated to your mirror is another question.
[16:32] <dym> Hey! Is anyone around that does virtualisation on a complete commandline basis using virsh (or similar)?
[16:34] <sevard> Pici: how can I find what mirror it is on?
[16:35] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i am using ubuntu 12.04.4, is this the most recent kernel ? 3.2.0-67-generic ? or am I not getting upgrades?
[16:35] <Psil0Cybin> have not seen an upgrade for a while
[16:35] <Psil0Cybin> using precise repos
[16:35] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: dist-upgrade'd ?
[16:36] <Psil0Cybin> yea dist-upgrade says i am up to date
[16:36] <Psil0Cybin> with 3.2.0-67-generic
[16:36] <daftykins> to get newer you probably need to grab a newer version's hardware enablement stack
[16:36] <Psil0Cybin> daftykins, would i want to do this, or stay where i am right now
[16:36] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to make sure my kernel is not out dated
[16:36] <Psil0Cybin> and has perhaps vulnerabilities.
[16:36] <Pici> sevard: Oops, sorry. It appears to have been built but not yet published: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/2.11.1-0ubuntu7.15
[16:37] <pdo_fn14> And now, I'm getting upset by pkexec and some password after trying to be connected
[16:37] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: this seems relevant - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.5_.2B-_14.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[16:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay daftykins before i go to reading, do i have to manually change the stacks from your experience? or would the OS automatically do this, as the time is right? Is this something I need to manually worry about, or will I be informed automatically?
[16:38] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: My 2 cents worth: HWE is provided to accomodte newer hardware, if what you have works, leave well enough alone. HWE does have it's heart aches .
[16:39] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: that's what reading will tell you.
[16:39] <Psil0Cybin> Bashing-om, so at the moment just stay the way I am :) for now? correct?
[16:39] <rww> Bashing-om: Yep, strongly agree with tyhat.
[16:39] <daftykins> regardless guys, 12.04.5 moves to 3.13 as a base it would appear.
[16:39] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: If all is working .. do not fix it ! stay where you are ..
[16:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks i was worried about vulnerabilities :) but i guess its the same
[16:40] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: sometime this month 12.04.5 will be finalised which'll move you to trusty's kernel
[16:41] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: you do realise that any LTS kernel will get security updates etc?
[16:41] <daftykins> anywho read the link for more background, don't rely on just people onlines word :P
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> I guess so :) Now i do :) I will do the reading
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> and thanks :D
[16:41] <adminewb> Psil0Cybin, not that you'd necessarily want to add more kernels, but such are available: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/linux-image-3.5.0-54-generic  http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/linux-image-3.8.0-44-generic
[16:41] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: That kernel series is fully, completely supported ! .. no worry .
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> wow gee thanks guys!
[16:42] <daftykins> adminewb: that's really really bad advice
[16:42] <adminewb> daftykins, say more
[16:42] <sevard> Pici: thanks for your context.  did the index for the 10.04 repos get pulled because of that bug?
[16:42] <daftykins> those are kernels from EOL releases, they shouldn't be touched
[16:42] <sere> Question: I have a canon pixma printer / scanner and the printer work but cant seem to find scanner...do i need to install more software?
[16:43] <Pici> sevard: I would assume so, but I haven't checked myself.
[16:43] <Pici> sevard: We typically do things like that in cases like these.
[16:43] <adminewb> so far the rationale eludes me
[16:43] <sevard> how can I check?  I'm not even sure where to find a discussion about this on launchpad other than the bug I'm tracking.
[16:44] <Bashing-om> pdo_fn14: Hints on how to cope with 'pkexec' : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225832 .
[16:45] <daftykins> adminewb: do you mean you don't get my point?
[16:45] <sevard> Pici: ^ forgot to prepend your nick :)
[16:46] <iamwhoiam> hello people. When i run an application from terminal with '&' at the end, though it works as supposed to do, it continues to print various warnings outputs to the terminal. Can this be avoided?
[16:46] <sevard> iamwhoiam: stdout and stderr are not redirected when a process is backgrounded.
[16:46] <capable> iamwhoiam: nohup foo > /dev/null &
[16:46] <eeee> iamwhoiam: command 2> /dev/null &
[16:46] <sevard> capable: that'll only redirect stdout
[16:46] <sevard> eeee: that'll only redirect stderr
[16:46] <sevard> ;)
[16:47] <capable> if it isn't enough, he can come back
[16:47] <sevard> haha.
[16:47] <eeee> iamwhoiam: command > /dev/null 2>&1
[16:47] <eeee> lol
[16:47] <pdo_fn14> Bashing-om: After entering some pkexec and some password when my cellular signal instability, it will break my internet profile.
[16:47] <capable> well, you can do &>/dev/null
[16:47] <capable> but it's overkill
[16:47] <sevard> that's something i've never tried.
[16:47] <dym> iamwhoiam: read here: http://linuxwave.blogspot.de/2008/03/redirecting-stdout-and-stderr.html
[16:48] <dym> Probably best to also understand what you#re doing
[16:48] <capable> PITA to type, so it's worth giving your shell a function
[16:48] <capable> 'launchit() { nohup $1 > /dev/null & }'
[16:49] <iamwhoiam> sevard, capable , eeee , dym : thanx a lot people!!
[16:49] <Bashing-om> pdo_fn14: I am only aware of this - new-kid-on-the-block - I have no experience with 'pkexec' ( I still have gksu functionality). Sorry, I can not help further.
[16:51] <Bashing-om> pdo_fn14: ^^ I did read the referenced link, and seems ya got to get fancy with some config files on ocassion .
[16:51] <cimmm> Having issues getting install media to boot on a Dell Dimension 8400. HDD was wiped and did UFD install of Debian 7.6.0amd64-CD1 - all Ubuntu media hangs at boot  with blinking cursor (14.04.1 amd64 desktop, netinst - both from UFD and CDR, MD5 matches). Is there something different between Deb/Ubu install boots, anything I'd have to change on install media?
[16:52] <capable> cimmm: ufd?
[16:52] <cimmm> capable: USB Flash Drive
[16:52] <capable> cimmm: did you try the 'minimalcd' image?
[16:52] <capable> ah, not ever seen that abbreviation
[16:52] <daftykins> ^nor me
[16:52] <capable> what are you using to image to usb?
[16:52] <daftykins> cimmm: you can confirm by pulling the HDDs to see if it has an issue on detecting them
[16:53] <cimmm> have tried a few I've used consistently - win32diskimager, unetbootin (doing from win8 main system now)
[16:53] <capable> k
[16:53] <pdo_fn14> Bashing-om: Okay folks, let me try to make it cleared. My signal data cellular's bad for now, somehow I tried to remake my internet profile only- because entering password from pkexec and a thing again.
[16:54] <capable> cimmm: did you try the 'minimalcd' image?
[16:54] <cimmm> capable: yes, I've burned and done USB image
[16:54] <adminewb> daftykins, if the kernels were not meant to be used, why publish them?
[16:54] <eeee> pdo_fn14: why are you using pkexec ?
[16:54] <daftykins> adminewb: you obviously don't get that they're from EOL releases... you know what that means right?
[16:54] <capable> cimmm: old hardware?
[16:55] <adminewb> daftykins yes
[16:55] <daftykins> adminewb: so it's obvious you shouldn't install an EOL kernel that will no longer receive patches and fixes... that's obvious
[16:55] <cimmm> Fairly, P4 64bit on 478, DDR2/533, SATA1 onboard
[16:55] <cimmm> \
[16:56] <pdo_fn14> eeee: I don't know somehow why Ubuntu trying to call pkexec and something when I trying to get connected with my internet profile.
[16:56] <adminewb> daftykins neither will the kernel they were using be patched
[16:56] <cimmm> no extra cards or drives aside from optical. and to dafty earlier: HDD and Opticals have no issue reading, same with USB and different ports, just seems to be ubuntu images
[16:57] <daftykins> adminewb: 'they' ? i'm afraid i'm going to have to stop this conversation because it is not my job to make you understand. just please don't link people to outdated things and suggest their use
[16:58] <daftykins> cimmm: right but it'd be interesting to pull the OS drive, if it has debian on it, just to see if it changes anything. i'm surprised there's a 64-bit Pentium 4 0o
[16:59] <cimmm> daftykins: That I've tried. The Debian HDD is wiped already, no part table, and I've used a different HDD as well as no HDD and I get same media boot to cursor blink
[16:59] <daftykins> ok good stuff.
[17:00] <eeee> pdo_fn14: so what is the error? and how are you trying to connect?
[17:01] <Ace2Race> im on my laptop and it dosent detect my wifi card
[17:02] <cimmm> Oh as a side note - It shouldn't be too surprising that P4 are 64b, I can see it being surprising on the old mPGA478 like this, but they still produce P4 as lowest-line non-SOC in current LGA sockets
[17:02] <hujjj> Hello!
[17:02] <daftykins> Ace2Race: new 14.04.1 64-bit install?
[17:02] <Ace2Race> yeah
[17:02] <Ace2Race> no 32 bit
[17:03] <daftykins> Ace2Race: ok, run "lspci" in a terminal and identify what your wifi device is
[17:03] <Ace2Race> well im using a usb to get by
[17:03] <Ace2Race> so that will probuly pop up
[17:03] <pdo_fn14> eeee: Connecting >>> Ubuntu call pkexec and something to entering password >>> I don't want to missing my internet profile >> Waiting for a while >> Reconnect >> Get Connected..
[17:04] <daftykins> Ace2Race: not under lspci it won't
[17:04] <Ace2Race> where do i patse do i pm you and paste it there?
[17:05] <hujjj> On Ubuntu 12.04 there is the package linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic) and the corresponding source package linux-source-3.2.0 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-source-3.2.0), But where is the source package for linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic)?
[17:07] <daftykins> Ace2Race: paste.ubuntu.com would've been nicer :P - i don't see one in your output
[17:07] <Ace2Race> is mine bad then
[17:07] <Ace2Race> i have a spare
[17:08] <daftykins> Ace2Race: well, can you determine the make and model of laptop?
[17:08] <daftykins> Ace2Race: use paste.ubuntu.com to share 'lsusb' also
[17:08] <Ace2Race> ummm gateway it was made for vista
[17:09] <Oog> i run nginx 1.6.0 on ubuntu - need to upgrade to 1.6.1 to fix smtp bug i got emailed about - how do i do it?
[17:09] <Oog> aptitude update/upgrade didnt do it
[17:09] <daftykins> Ace2Race: gonna need a more specific # there, also when replying use my nickname in front so i get a highlight... i'm in many channels
[17:09] <capable> Oog: check packages.ubuntu.com to see if it's even available via the repos yet
[17:09] <daftykins> Oog: what version are you on?
[17:09] <capable> Oog: if it isn't you'll have to find a ppa, a random deb, or build it the old fashioned way
[17:10] <Oog> oh or i just wait until it gets updated? how long will that take usually?
[17:10] <daftykins> Oog: what version are you on?
[17:10] <capable> not that long, but clearly longer than you'd like =P
[17:10] <Ace2Race> ok daftykins... mx8711 is the moddle and its a gateway
[17:10] <Oog> 13.10
[17:11] <daftykins> Oog: your release is EOL, you won't be getting anything newer. you need to switch to a supported release, 12.04 or 14.04
[17:11] <Oog> oh no
[17:11] <farbod> hi to all
[17:11] <xangua> oh yes
[17:12] <Oog> why is 13.10 EOL and now 12.04?
[17:12] <xangua> Oog: because 12.04 is Long Term Support
[17:12] <Oog> so not even security updates for 13.10? nothing?
[17:13] <farbod> what is Difference Between ubuntu 14.04 & 14.04.1?
[17:13] <daftykins> farbod: .1 is newer, updates.
[17:13] <daftykins> Oog: in future, never base a production system off a non-LTS release.
[17:14] <Oog> daftykins: yeah i had no idea
[17:14] <Oog> i didnt know what lts was
[17:14] <farbod> daftykins: which apps get update>
[17:14] <capable> daftykins: why not
[17:14] <farbod> ?
[17:14] <pdo_fn14> Seems Ubuntu dev having long time to rest, and I'm too. My modem impingement has been done, and I got retired (Maybe switch to another distro's one of good area). Good bye all.
[17:14] <voidvoid> hi ...
[17:14] <APaternoster_> Hallo :) I've a problem with microphone. I hear a noise in background that coming from pc. Is there a solution ? Thanks...
[17:14] <capable> voidvoid: heya
[17:14] <daftykins> Ace2Race: hmm, seeing vague mention of that laptop having broadcom wireless. odd it doesn't show up though, how's that lsusb paste coming along?
[17:15] <Oog> so how do i update to 14.04 is there an aptitude command to do it
[17:15] <capable> APaternoster_: pardon?
[17:15] <daftykins> capable: you're going to have to be a bit more specific than that when asking me a question
[17:15] <capable> Oog: yup
[17:15] <farbod> daftykins: you use which one of them?
[17:15] <capable> daftykins: what's wrong with using non-lts for "production"
[17:15] <voidvoid> im using 12.04 i want a user got admin privileges ... but from GUI when i click "ADMIN" it doesnt take effect
[17:15] <APaternoster_> capable:  ?
[17:15] <voidvoid> how do i do this from command line ?
[17:15] <daftykins> capable: you're welcome to have a policy conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic but this is support, not theory.
[17:15] <capable> voidvoid: what does 'groups nameOfUser' say?
[17:16] <capable> daftykins: wha?
[17:16] <daftykins> farbod: if you're downloading now, get 14.04.1 - it's like the equivalent of a first 'service pack' with Windows releases. all the fixes since it came out
[17:16] <capable> I don't see a problem using non-lts for "production"
[17:16] <daftykins> capable: then you're an idiot
[17:16] <farbod> and who know a good site for new CSS codes?(New)
[17:16] <farbod> Thank you.
[17:16] <daftykins> farbod: this is ubuntu support only.
[17:16] <Oog> capable: the command is?
[17:16] <capable> Oog: what version are you on now?
[17:16] <farbod> and who know a good site for new CSS codes?(New)
[17:17] <Oog> 13.10
[17:17] <voidvoid> capable what u mean ??
[17:17] <daftykins> !eol | Oog follow the last link here
[17:17] <capable> voidvoid: 'groups voidvoid', for example
[17:17] <capable> it's a command
[17:17] <capable> farbod: huh?
[17:17] <dhci> i have 12.04 LTS and bluetooth partially working, I get a python error and does not exist error for one of the bluez-test-device commands. is python 2.7.3 ok and do I need to replace some of the bluez python scripts or supporting libraries?
[17:17] <dhci> brb
[17:19] <farbod> capable: a good site for new css codes.
[17:19] <capable> farbod: what's a css code?
[17:19] <daftykins> farbod capable - it's off topic. like i said, not for this channel thanks.
[17:19] <Oog> capable: this document doesnt mention 13.10 to 14.04
[17:19] <capable> Oog: I didn't link you to that document
[17:20] <capable> how can you know it's off topic without knowing what it is
[17:20] <farbod> daftykins: OK
[17:20] <daftykins> capable: you might not know what it is. now stop wasting time
[17:20] <capable> daftykins: are those two statements related?...
[17:21] <capable> I don't know what it is, so I've asked
[17:21] <daftykins> uh-huh, too late, moved on.
[17:21] <cimmm> CSS = Cascading Style Sheet for HTML. I provided him a link to w3schools
[17:21] <capable> if you don't care, then why even bother including yourself
[17:21] <jak2000> hi all, how to send a signal to a program for wake up, i try: ps -aux | grep mirc   and fg procesid   but not work, thanks
[17:21] <daftykins> capable: i knew what it meant and knew it was off topic, can you shut up now please?
[17:22] <farbod> yes crimmm fix my problem
[17:22] <capable> jak2000: you put it to sleep?
[17:22] <capable> daftykins: you keep talking to me, if you don't want to see me reply, don't invite me to
[17:22] <daftykins> stop wasting users time.
[17:23] <daftykins> this channel has policies, follow them.
[17:23] <kevinfish> hi everyone.  how do I fix this?  http://pastebin.com/929Bm7pm
[17:23] <capable> don't know what you're on about
[17:23] <daftykins> kevinfish: 'cat /etc/issue' please? if it's 13.04 your release is dead, EOL, unsupported. you must update
[17:23] <capable> kevinfish: raring is done, AFAIK
[17:24] <daftykins> kevinfish: you could *try* an upgrade, but it'd take a lot of time and invite lots more issues. you're better off backing up and clean installing a supported release (12.04 or 14.04)
[17:24] <capable> and updating more frequently in future
[17:25] <Cavani> kriskropd: sorry, I had problems with adsl. I'm back if you're not busy...
[17:26] <kevinfish> capable: daftykins:  ok, thx.   Actually its peppermint.   My machine is kind of small and I was looking for the leanest easily usable linux I could find.
[17:26] <Bashing-om> hujjj: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ <- all the kernels ! Hope this helps.
[17:26] <daftykins> kevinfish: is that a distro? we don't support non-ubuntu
[17:26] <Oog> found it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[17:26] <kevinfish> capable: daftykins:  ubuntu based distro
[17:27] <daftykins> kevinfish: yeah we don't support that in here then, see if they have a channel themselves.
[17:27] <kevinfish> there is NO one on #peppermint tho.
[17:27] <kostkon> kevinfish, we are ubuntu only.
[17:27] <daftykins> there's that echo in here again
[17:27] <capable> god forbid someone back you up =P
[17:27] <capable> Oog: gj
[17:28] <Cavani> kriskropd: resuming, In software center I see: Adobe flash player version 11, GTK+ control panel for Adobe Flash Player version 11, ubuntu-restricted-extras 60 ... What of these I must reinstall or quit?
[17:28] <TeraJL> hi there, i've installed a minimal install, where can i get ubuntu fonts?
[17:29] <hyde> mmm, Peppermint seems to be a distro based on Ubuntu, latest one on 14.04 LTS. Looks interesting, for those who find Lubuntu too heavy.
[17:29] <capable> TeraJL: for non-X?
[17:29] <capable> TeraJL: apt-cache search ubuntu-font
[17:29] <TeraJL> i've install i3wm
[17:29] <TeraJL> capable: that's it, thanks ;)
[17:32]  * Basketball is away: brb
[17:35]  * Basketball is back (gone 00:02:46)
[17:35] <capable> Basketball: nobody actually cares =)
[17:36] <daftykins> Basketball: i think away scripts are against this channel's policy, can you please either disable it on this channel or turn it off?
[17:37] <capable> also it's just bad manners
[17:37] <Basketball> sorry daftykins  doing that now
[17:37] <daftykins> ty
[17:37] <Basketball> did it
[17:37] <kriskropd> Cavani: sorry, I was out for lunchbreak
[17:38] <guest-FXaA0B> hi all, my main account after password stays on default background desktop is not loaded, only the guest account works. can someone help me?
[17:38] <kriskropd> Cavani: try removing the flash installed and re-install using the installer made available directly from Adobe
[17:38] <daftykins> guest-FXaA0B: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <kriskropd> Cavani: https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[17:39] <guest-FXaA0B> thanks, gonna have a look now.
[17:39] <capable> you don't want to get flash from adobe.com
[17:39] <Cavani> kriskropd: no problem. You mean only Flash Player, not the complemtents of flash I referred?
[17:40] <daftykins> we don't advise non-packaged software, kriskropd
[17:40] <capable> echo in here...
[17:40] <capable> =P
[17:40] <kriskropd> daftykins: sorry, i figured it was easier than making Cavani go googling
[17:40] <Cavani> kriskropd: Ok!
[17:40] <capable> it'll just mess up his system more =)
[17:40] <daftykins> !flash
[17:41] <jak2000> capable, not but when i try open mirc, (it is running) cant interact with program, understand?
[17:42] <guest-FXaA0B> how can i install software through guest account ? i know of course the main account pw
[17:42] <kriskropd> daftykins: whenever I install flash on ubuntu, I use the packages from adobe directly - the aptitude provided packages for flash seem to cause errors for whatever reason (I hadn't investigated)
[17:42] <daftykins> guest-FXaA0B: i'm not sure where you're getting the need to install software from?
[17:42] <jak2000> guest-FXaA0B with sudo apt-get install mypackage
[17:42] <Pici> jak2000: that will not work.  "guest" does not have sudoers privleges.
[17:43] <xangua> kriskropd: Adobe doesn't provide 'packages'
[17:43] <guest-FXaA0B> i cannot load in my standard account, it stays at the default bg nothing else loaded, so iam trying to reset unity through the guest account
[17:43] <daftykins> guest-FXaA0B: the link i gave you has commands to run to reset unity, they don't involve installing software.
[17:43] <kriskropd> xangua: they provide the 11.2 adobe flash tarball
[17:44] <daftykins> guest-FXaA0B: login via a TTY, hit ctrl+alt+F1 through F6
[17:44] <kriskropd> xangua: as wella s rpm and apt
[17:44] <jak2000> Pici ok, any advice for my? pls
[17:45] <Pici> jak2000: most GUI applications do not handle being backgrounded and foregrounded well, or at all.
[17:46] <jak2000> i installed mirc.exe on ubuntu with PlayOnLinux, when i click on minimize button, the program put an icon on Tray(Similar on windows) and then........ i cant restore the program, understand me?
[17:47] <Pici> jak2000: that is entirely different to using 'fg' to bring a process back into the foreground.
[17:48] <daftykins> jak2000: you should be using a native IRC client, not using windows programs ¬_¬
[17:49] <jak2000> Pici yes,
[17:58] <cimmm> been downloading different images, 12.04 & 14.04.1 minimal and desktop x86 and _64, nothing ubuntu wants to boot (USB or CD) - a variety of older and current debian images have no problem booting via CD or USB Flash Drive, both x86 and _64. Is there something special in ubuntu installers Dell doesn't like?
[18:00] <daftykins> cimmm: checked into BIOS updates?
[18:01] <cimmm> yeah im on A09 current is A10 but changes have nothing to do with HDDs. Doing a winXP USB right now to try it from that angle
[18:02] <cimmm> figure get the BIOS update and do liveboot from MSI or whatever
[18:02] <ZZRMike> I know it's considered *bad practice* to have a permissions mask of 777 on files, but are there any security considerations with having 777 as a mask for your document root on apache assuming that there's no anonymous ftp, etc.?
[18:03] <joshua7> hey room
[18:04] <compdoc> cimmm, does it have an efi bios
[18:04] <warfox> got my account back thanks !
[18:04] <warfox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login
[18:04] <cimmm> compdoc: nonono way too old
[18:04] <warfox> fixed it
[18:04] <compdoc> ah. what cpu is it?
[18:05] <cimmm> let me find you specific model#. It's later run mPGA478 Pentium4 @ 2.8 with HT and EMT-64
[18:06] <compdoc> is there an option in the bios to disable ACPI? or is it disabled? How about AHCI? too old for that?
[18:07] <dimyan> liuty
[18:09] <pengin> anyone out there know if it's possible to get a nginx/apache to require that a client have the CA cert to view the webpage, but not require that it to have a client certificate?
[18:09] <daftykins> pengin: more relevant a question for channels of those web servers or #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <pengin> cool, didn't know that was a channel, i'll try there dafty - thansk
[18:10] <daftykins> well, find ones for apache or nginx too
[18:11] <cimmm> compdoc: I can run in "Normal" or Combination" mode - I believe Normal is AHCI and combination says "provides compatibility with older OS that do not support SATA drives"
[18:12] <compdoc> cimmm, thats a pretty old 32bit cpu. Two weeks ago, I had to replace a motherboard with a P4 because several capacitors had gone bad. They were happy to get rid of it, because it was so slow
[18:13] <cimmm> compdoc: my bios says em64T support =X also this is just gonna be for web browsing and kongregate at most, charity work for a friend
[18:14] <compdoc> cimmm, no, I dont think that board supports ahci
[18:14] <compdoc> the choices would be normal, ahci, or combo
[18:15] <compdoc> normal means no ahci
[18:15] <compdoc> but no matter.
[18:15] <compdoc> are you d/l the 32bit version?
[18:15] <cimmm> i have tried both x86 and x86_64. Debian x86_64 was installed and fine previously
[18:16] <compdoc> wow
[18:16] <compdoc> whats the error?
[18:16] <cimmm> no error, after boot selection I hang at a cursor
[18:18] <compdoc> btw, be sure to run memtest86 on it for several passes, or overnight if possible. once you know its good, update the bios. always good to have the latest. They might decide to take down that page before long
[18:18] <TJ-> cimmm: The Ubuntu 32-bit kernels require PAE support; does that CPU support it? Many older CPUs dont
[18:19] <compdoc> cimmm, how many drives are installed?
[18:19] <cimmm> compdoc: ran memtest86+ about 12hr before I did debian install
[18:19] <compdoc> excellent
[18:20] <compdoc> we lagged?
[18:20] <cimmm> uhm next q was drives, currently im on just the 80GB SATA1, that tests fine no bad sect
[18:20] <compdoc> so just one drive? or is that a usb stick plugged in?
[18:21] <compdoc> that=there
[18:21] <cimmm> turned off all other SATA and IDE channels for now. I have been bouncing between SATA0 80GB HDD and adding in the IDE DVD+CDRW, been booting off the USB stick most of the time
[18:22] <compdoc> systems can get confused if there are two bootable devices
[18:22] <gimmic> anyone know a way in command line to lock unity?
[18:22] <compdoc> ubuntu can write grub to the wrong device
[18:22] <gimmic> my unity seems to go unresponsive when I search the launcher for 'calc' for some reason.
[18:22] <gimmic> Now I can't lock with ctrl+alt+L anymore
[18:22] <gimmic> but I need to lock my screen
[18:22] <gimmic> I cna't find a cli command to do so
[18:22] <ajayaa> Hi. I am getting a broken package error while installing python-dev.
[18:22] <ajayaa> How do I fix it?
[18:23] <ajayaa> The problem being "python-dev : Depends: python2.7-dev (>= 2.7.3) but it is not going to be installed"
[18:23] <gimmic> so have you tried installing python2.7-dev ?
[18:24] <kriskropd> gimmic: you can use slock
[18:24] <kriskropd> gimmic: to lock x11 screen - you can also use vlock to lock a shell
[18:24] <ZKR> hello there all
[18:24] <gimmic> kriskropd: I don't see slock installed or available in ubuntu repos
[18:24] <cimmm> im sry need afk. super sick right now
[18:24] <compdoc> uh oh
[18:25] <compdoc> take care
[18:25] <ajayaa> yes. It lists some other packages which are again not going to be installed
[18:25] <gimmic> kriskropd: I'm just wondering what unity uses to lock the screen, and if I can call it manually
[18:25] <gimmic> rather than through some goofy ui element
[18:25] <kriskropd> gimmic: slock is part of suckless-tools
[18:26] <kriskropd> gimmic: I don't use unity so I don't know :s
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> suckless-tools actually exists!
[18:29] <kriskropd> gimmic: ubuntu might still be using the gnome-screensaver, you could see if oyu have it installed and check the man page for '-l, --lock'
[18:29] <gimmic> ughh
[18:29] <kriskropd> MonkeyDust: suckless sucks less
[18:29] <gimmic> it isn't, it's using something inside unity
[18:30] <gimmic> I restarted unity and at least the functionality came back
[18:30] <gimmic> but it fubar'ed my app panel
[18:30] <gimmic> sigh. So much hackery around unity
[18:30]  * gimmic misses xfce
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> gimmic  then install xfce, what's holding you
[18:30] <gimmic> xfce has poor multimonitor support
[18:30] <gimmic> one thing ubuntu does well
[18:31] <gimmic> I have a 3 headed display
[18:31] <gimmic> with different screen sizes
[18:36] <samuraiRM> ma
[18:37] <kostkon> gimmic, lightdm is used for the lock screen.   try to lock it with dm-tool:  man dm-tool  for more
[18:37] <samuraiRM> ma
[18:38] <urda> question: why is 14.04.1 not showing up in do-release-upgrade for 12.04 servers yet?
[18:39] <rww> urda: they're waiting for a bugfix for the update manager to be released first
[18:39] <pewUK>   /part
[18:40] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. when I login my unity has some beauty problems (black text on black background, and things like that) but after I restart unity ("unity --replace") everything seems ok. is there a folder wheere I can reset unity settings? (like ".kde" in hme) or is there any otherway to fix my unity?
[18:40] <urda> rww: ohh, which bug is that / link ?
[18:41] <kostkon> masoudborbor, 12.04 or 14.04?
[18:42] <kostkon> masoudborbor, i'm assuming 12.04, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[18:42] <rww> urda: hrm, looks like I'm out of date, that update made it to the update repositories recently
[18:42] <d2dchat> How do I upgrade my version of sqlite 3.7.13 to latest 3.8.x?
[18:42] <rww> urda: i'll try and get an update, might take a while though
[18:42] <daftykins> d2dchat: what version? ("cat /etc/issue")
[18:43] <d2dchat> Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[18:43] <d2dchat> daftykins, ^
[18:43] <daftykins> d2dchat: this is not debian support. the clue is the channel being called #ubuntu and not #debian
[18:43] <d2dchat> daftykins, woops! I thought I was running Ubuntu on this VM
[18:43] <d2dchat> my bad
[18:43] <urda> rww: hm, I mean I checked this morning and got no ew release found? Just curious honestly
[18:44] <rww> urda: Right, the release upgrade isn't enabled yet. I'm trying to figure out what the blocker is.
[18:45] <urda> rww: Hey man I appreciate it, also if there is any easy way to query this I'm happy to learn so I can fend for myself :)
[18:45] <hyde> urda, if you're in hurry, you can use --proposed switch.
[18:46] <wulong710> Is there something wrong with ubuntuforum.org ? I login with my account,.But when i add my question, websit tell me "the administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page". Need i register a new username ?
[18:46] <hyde> worked for me a few days ago... of course try at your own risk
[18:46] <rww> wulong710: ask #ubuntuforums
[18:46] <wulong710> ok
[18:46] <rww> urda: nope, I'm just poking people for a status update :). And yeah, the -p / --proposed switch to do-release-upgrade would work, checking if that's the preferred solution.
[18:47] <amontalban> Hi
[18:47] <juanchio> hola
[18:48] <urda> hyde: no hurry! Just making sure I wasn't doing something wrong since it was saying there was nothing new :x
[18:48] <brunost> hi! I'm trying to run the following command: mkdir -p /usr/local/modules/`uname -r | -d'-' -f1` but the part between the ` doesn't seem to run and I can't figure out what the part after the | is supposed to do and I'm not sure what the naming standards for this is, could anybody help me?
[18:48] <urda> rww: Yeah proposed I knew about, but I also wanted to make sure that I didn't have some screwed up that would show no new upgrades D:
[18:49] <urda> something* not some
[18:49] <rww> urda: your end is probably fine, it's just a waiting game at this point :)
[18:49] <vlt> brunost: Heida! "|" is for piping output of process one into process b. But in your case there's no process, just its option "-d".
[18:49] <urda> rww: woo waiting games :p
[18:50] <brunost> vlt: thats what I find odd too
[18:50] <masoudborbor> kostkon, sorry I needed to leave for a sec. it is 1404
[18:50] <vlt> brunost: Usually you need only the `uname -r` part.
[18:50] <rww> brunost: where did that command come from? i assume some guide somewhere?
[18:51] <amontalban> Anyone knows about EC2 mirrors for Ubuntu?
[18:51] <brunost> rww: http://xps13-9333.appspot.com/#background_noise
[18:51] <amontalban> I'm hitting something really weird
[18:51] <kostkon> masoudborbor, then click on the link where it says about resetting 13.04 or newer releases on that page
[18:51] <brunost> its a guide for debian so there might be some subtle differences I'm not aware of between debian and ubuntu
[18:51] <Rape> I have been witnessing difficulties restaring my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server, the screen is pure blank. How can I achieve success in starting it?
[18:51] <pbx> is there a way to get Thunderbird out of the little mail/chat menu at the top?  (i use Evolution, which is also there...)
[18:51] <stefkos> I want to add application to autostart (app with gui) how to do that by commands?
[18:51] <rww> brunost: try adding cut before -d
[18:52] <vlt> brunost: The command "cut" is missing in that statement.
[18:52] <rww> brunost: looks like a typo; you can see it's right on the next line down
[18:52] <stefkos> I was using init.d but then my app is launched before X
[18:52] <brunost> aha
[18:52] <brunost> I should have read on then :P
[18:52] <brunost> thanks btw guys!
[18:53] <masoudborbor> kostkon, thank you very much
[18:53] <pbx> Rape, perhaps there's useful information in the logs.  can you mount its drive on another machine?
[18:54] <kostkon> masoudborbor, np
[18:54] <Rape> pbx: unfortunately no.
[18:54] <pbx> Rape, booting from a live cd/key would be my next step then
[18:55] <pbx> and then checking logs
[18:56] <Rape> pbx: I'll try this step of yours, I hope I can locate the error and then.....fix it, I guess.
[18:56] <Rape> or run a search in Google.
[18:59] <stefkos> I was using init.d but then my app is launched before X
[18:59] <stefkos> I want to add application to autostart (app with gui) how to do that by commands?
[19:03] <Blaster> Hey I am new to Ubuntu, and PHPStorm stopped responding.  How do I kill it?
[19:03] <stefkos> ps -ef | grep PHPStorm
[19:03] <stefkos> get PID and then
[19:03] <stefkos> kill <pidnumber>
[19:03] <toshiba_> kill -9
[19:04] <stefkos> anyone know something about autostart in ubuntu?
[19:04] <toshiba_> ps aux
[19:04] <toshiba_> what about it
[19:05] <Blaster> redstar   8923  8863  0 12:05 pts/27   00:00:00 grep --color=auto PHPStorm
[19:05] <Blaster> how do you know which one is the PID?
[19:05] <stefkos> I want to add my program to autostart
[19:05] <toshiba_> 8923
[19:05] <toshiba_> type kill -9 8923
[19:06] <stefkos> program must be launched when desktop will appear
[19:06] <Blaster> bash: kill: (8923) - No such process
[19:06] <toshiba_> try 8863
[19:06] <stefkos> PHPStorm is not avaiable
[19:06] <stefkos> is it working at all?
[19:06] <toshiba_> scroll up it says PID at the top under the numbers
[19:06] <stefkos> or maybe it create own threads?
[19:06] <toshiba_> but it might restart by itself
[19:07] <Blaster> ps -ef | grep PHPStorm gave me the process of the grep command..
[19:07] <Blaster> Look up it says "grep" in the line.
[19:07] <Blaster> No PHPStorm is completely frozen.
[19:07] <pa> does anybody here use asterisk + isdn?
[19:07] <TJ-> Blaster: toshiba_ That is just the instant 'grep' process, not the target being searched for
[19:08] <Daghdha> Hi, how can i know if a program source i downloaded is copatible with ubuntu? (I have 12.04) and downloaded a realy old game. It's for X11. Will that just work?
[19:08] <toshiba_> yer then just look for it
[19:08] <Blaster> TJ-: how do I find the right PID for it?
[19:08] <TJ-> Blaster: It likely runs as a php process; try "pgrep php"
[19:09] <toshiba_> ps aux
[19:09] <toshiba_> ?
[19:09] <Blaster> It just gave me like 10 PIDs on new lines with no name or anything.
[19:09] <TJ-> Blaster: If that gives any results, you can check those PIDs in detail, with "ps -efly | grep php"
[19:10] <Blaster> This seems a lot harder than it should be.
[19:10] <Blaster> Finally got it
[19:10] <TJ-> Blaster: PHP is an interpreter that reads script files, if the process you were looking for was a proper executable you'd find it in one search
[19:11] <Daghdha> i am getting "common.h:22:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory" so iguess X11 is not supported by ubuntu. :(
[19:11] <Blaster> TJ- I wasn't trying to kill PHP, but PHPStorm which is an IDE.
[19:11] <jdr> I'm trying to pull down this branch (http://ppa.launchpad.net/jon-severinsson/ffmpeg/ubuntu/) with bazaar, but can't figure out the syntax - anyone have any ideas? Pretty new to this
[19:12] <TJ-> Blaster: right, so maybe the IDE's command-name is not exactly "PHPStorm" then? which would explain why your first 'grep' didn't find it
[19:12] <Khaaan> unbuntu 11 12 or 13 for first time user?
[19:12] <Blaster> It was listed as lowercase phpstorm.
[19:13] <jdr> Khaan -  ubuntu 14, I believe
[19:13] <TJ-> Blaster: OK ... you could have done "pkill phpstorm" then
[19:13] <Blaster> Alright, I'll remember for next time.
[19:14] <trijntje> Khaaan: 14.04 is the latest version
[19:14] <TJ-> Blaster: The reason it is better to search when you're not sure is, you don't want to kill the wrong process(es) by accident
[19:14] <Khaaan> basicaly im trying to install it with Virtualbox
[19:14] <TJ-> Khaaan: The latest LTS, 14.04
[19:16] <echoprinter> I am on Windows 8 and would like to dual boot with Ubuntu 14.04 but it's not allowing me to install. Anyone done this and know how?
[19:16] <rdz> hi all. cpu frequency scaling suddenly stopped using frequencies higher than 1200 MHz, although my cpu supports 2.4 GHz (Intel core 2 duo)
[19:16] <Khaaan> next dumb question is it posible to partition a HD without messin up my files
[19:16] <trijntje> echoprinter: what goes wrong with the install?
[19:17] <cimmm> Well I swapped Optical drives and got a boot from 14.04.1 netinst. Intermittent optical drive is one thing, but I'm still curious why USB stick presented no issues for Debian and total hang with Ubuntu
[19:17] <echoprinter> trijntje: Just a blank screen
[19:17] <trijntje> echoprinter: just a blank screen when? You have to give details
[19:17] <TJ-> Khaaan: Usually, no. Technically, maybe for experts who are used to shuffling data around manually.
[19:18] <TJ-> Khaaan: If however you are wanting to shrink an existing (Windows) file-system partition, that can be done from Windows Disk Management, which then frees up space for the Ubuntu installer to assign to a new partition, where it can install itself safely
[19:19] <echoprinter> trigjntje: Once i put in the Ubuntu CD and reboot my computer, it tries to recognize the DVD that Ubuntu is on, but the DVD just spins for a while, then eventually gives up, showing only a blank screen.
[19:19] <TJ-> Khaaan: The installer can also shrink Windows NTFs file-system partitions but it is generally safer to let the Windows tools do the job
[19:19] <Khaaan> ill use virtualbox i imagine it wil lbe ok
[19:19] <trijntje> echoprinter: did you get the 64 bit version, and how did you burn it to disk?
[19:20] <TJ-> Khaaan: Sure, that'll be installing into a simple file by default
[19:20] <Khaaan> thanks
[19:21] <echoprinter> trijntje: Yes, I did get the 64 bit version. I burn to disk via Img Burn
[19:21] <TJ-> cimmm: Did it boot the 64-bit version?
[19:22] <ses1984> is there a guide for getting a basic centrally managed multi user, multi host environment for a home network?
[19:22] <ses1984> for example, creating a user account in one place and being able to log into my desktop and my laptop with it
[19:23] <TJ-> ses1984: Sounds like you want something like LDAP
[19:23] <ses1984> well ldap is just a directory...ldap doesn't really encompass things like logging on. and ldap without a schema is even less useful. ... right?
[19:24] <SP33D> can some one help me
[19:24] <cimmm> TJ-: yes, I'm using NetInst x86_64
[19:24] <ses1984> i feel like i've been trying to study how to get this to work but failing really hard at putting together the pieces
[19:24] <SP33D> how can i run make command in a directory from outside that directory
[19:24] <SP33D> i mean i got a project in a /dir now i whant to execute make like i would do cd /dir befor from the root dir is that possible
[19:25] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so not a no-PAE boot issue by the look of it, unless for some reason the BIOS boots from USB with EMT64 disabled, despite the BIOS setting
[19:25] <SP33D> make /dir install don't does work as cd /dir make install
[19:25] <guest-mcTCde> #list
[19:26] <TJ-> SP33D: "man make" "/   -C"
[19:27] <cimmm> TJ-: Still a bad break I'm stuck on optical, would rather just use netinst and download than burn and read
[19:28]  * jdr is looking for some help using bazaar with launchpad
[19:29] <TJ-> cimmm: It was a direct 'dd' of the ISO to the USB whole-disk, e.g. "dd if=iso of=/dev/sdx" ?
[19:29] <TJ-> jdr: haha!
[19:29] <jdr> :)
[19:29] <cimmm> TJ- On Win8 and cygwin dd is a death sentence, Used unetbootin and pendrivelinux UniversalUSB
[19:29] <TJ-> jdr have you checked out http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html ?
[19:30] <cimmm> but yes they essentially run a DD and break my flash drive until I manually rewrite partition table for FAT 8gb access
[19:30] <TJ-> cimmm: OK... I'm wondering if the boot loader was somehow messed up, otherwise it should have at least reported an error
[19:30] <jdr> TickT0ck - I have, but the difficulty i'm running into seems to be more specifically with syntax
[19:31] <TJ-> cimmm: 8GB FAT32? that may upset the boot-loader's FAT code
[19:31] <TJ-> jdr:  which bit?
[19:31] <jdr> trying to pull http://ppa.launchpad.net/jon-severinsson/ffmpeg/ubuntu
[19:31] <TJ-> jdr what command are you trying?
[19:31] <jdr> I've tried a bunch of variations on "bzr branch ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg"
[19:32] <TJ-> jdr: That user has no code branches
[19:33] <cimmm> TJ-: Well the dd won't write to full disk as single partition, but why would Debian not have the same issue? (Debian was done with full desktop CD ISO 7.60 x86_64 )
[19:33] <adminewb> (trusty/unity): if my screen resolution goes to mush when an app crashes, what shell-based tools are best to restore unity desktop proper screen resolution?
[19:33] <TJ-> cimmm: Debian and Ubuntu have different boot-loader configuration for the ISOs, last time I looked
[19:34] <adminewb> TJ- different versions of grub you mean? I concur
[19:35] <TJ-> adminewb: No, isolinux and EFI and multiple boot sectors in the El torito image
[19:35] <cimmm> TJ-: Thank you, I'm good for now but grub seems to be the answer. I know I had a similar issue with a laptop-turned-htpc I had many moons ago, though that wouldn't take ANY install media except Windows
[19:36] <adminewb> TJ- thanks for clarifying
[19:36] <cimmm> So new EFI bootloader is whats bangin up my USB install?
[19:36] <TJ-> cimmm: some BIOSes refuse to boot from a device that has a valid partition table (MBR) unless one of the partitions is flagged as active, even for GRUB, which isn't concerned with the boot flag at all
[19:36] <jdr> TJ - interesting. What I'm hoping to do is basically be able to pull the repo, make a few changes, and push my own ppa
[19:38] <TJ-> jdr: Use "apt-add-repository ...", then you can use "apt-get source $PACKAGE", then edit the source, sign and repackage the new version, then push it up to your own PPA with "dput"
[19:38] <jdr> beautiful - thanks, TJ!
[19:39] <jdr> would I just use those with the url?
[19:39] <cimmm> TJ- So for certain BIOS I'm just stuck on optical if it hates MBR without active flag
[19:39] <itisit> Hi, I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS precise. I want to update a python package kombu. By default ubuntu has the package python-kombu. What is the best way to update python-kombu?
[19:40] <OerHeks> !info python-kombu precise
[19:40] <OerHeks> !info python-kombu
[19:41] <OerHeks> itisit, upgrade would be the easy way
[19:41] <mjrbordo> hello everybody :D
[19:41] <mjrbordo> if i need help with installing ubuntu where i should go ?
[19:41] <TJ-> cimmm: That, or if the USB has a partition table, toggle the active boot flag on one primary partition. I helped a user a couple weeks ago diagnose this issue and was surprised the BIOS actually checked for the flag; usually the BIOS only checks for the valid signature at sector #0 offset 510 is 0x55AA, and then loads the MBR boot-strap code to 0c7C00 and passed execution to it
[19:43] <itisit> OerHeks: I manually update kombu to latest version using pip. However, if I run pip freeze | grep 'python-kombu'. I see nothing. If I run pip freeze | grep 'kombu' I can see correct version (latest v). So I am wondering after upgrading, is package 'python-kombu' still there? I am afraid if the program still use old version of kombu. thanks.
[19:43] <cimmm> TJ- Hmm wish I tried it before I got the opt running, owell =P ty for being well informed and patient with me
[19:43] <TJ-> cimmm: You're welcome
[19:44] <itisit> mjrbordo: you can search on youtube, lot of tutorial video, no matter u install it on host or virtualbox
[19:44] <OerHeks> itisit, i have no experience with PIP
[19:44] <subz3r0> hey
[19:45] <subz3r0> wanna install cuda... does it work with the propritary driver of ubuntu? or do i have to install both by hand?
[19:45] <t4nk433> Hi everyone, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 with an Nvidia driver
[19:45] <t4nk433> why do I get this error?  http://i.imgur.com/RnniCpr.png
[19:48] <TJ-> t4nk433: see bug 1283685
[19:48] <and2> Hey guys, im experiencing some issues getting my HDMI audio on my TV to work proberly
[19:48] <and2> i can see my driver, and the output within ubuntu, but the audio wont work
[19:49] <and2> any suggestions plz ? :)
[19:49] <and2> running ubuntu 14.04 btw.
[19:49] <TJ-> and2: Is the output connected via a straight-through HDMI cable, or is there any DisplayPort or DVI adapters involved?
[19:50] <and2> no adapters at all, it works perfectly fine in my DUAL booted windows 7
[19:51] <t4nk433> Hi everyone, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 with an Nvidia driver.  why do I get this error?  http://i.imgur.com/RnniCpr.png
[19:51] <and2> didnt have this problem before i when i was running 12.04
[19:51] <TJ-> t4nk433: I've already replied to you with a link to a bug report, did you not read it?
[19:51] <t4nk433> oh oops i didnt see
[19:52] <t4nk433> lemme read now
[19:52] <TJ-> and2: The HDMI audio shows up in the sound configuration options?
[19:52] <subz3r0> wanna install cuda... does it work with the propritary driver of ubuntu? or do i have to install both by hand?
[19:52] <mjrbordo> Hello. I got problem with installing ubuntu 14,04. After instalation system doesnt start
[19:53] <and2> t4nk433, yes it does.. and i can also track the activity when playing a file within the "pulseaudio volume control" application
[19:53] <Scunizi> Suddenly out of the blue on my 12.04 sys when I plug in my camera's SD card into the reader, the system wants a user name and password to open it. It's formatted at FAT32. How do I fix this behavoir?
[19:54] <and2> also made sure it wasnt muted in alsamixer
[19:54] <Scunizi> mjrbordo: do you get a black screen?
[19:54] <TJ-> and2: Hmmm, which video driver is in use?
[19:54] <mjrbordo> anybody can help me anyway? When i was installing on hdd everything was ok but on SSD disk ubuntu cant start by itself only from  live usb
[19:54] <and2> bumblebee for nvidia optimus
[19:55] <t4nk433> TJ: I don't see a solution on launchpad...forgive me if im a total noob
[19:55] <zamba> ok, what has ubuntu fscked now? nfs shares?
[19:55] <TJ-> and2: Using the nvidia proprietary graphics driver I guess?
[19:55] <Scunizi> !ssd > mjrbordo
[19:55] <zamba> i've installed nfs-common and i'm now trying to mount a remote share: mount -f nfs <server>:<share> <local-dir>
[19:55] <zamba> mount.nfs: Protocol not supported
[19:55] <TJ-> t4nk433: There isn't one as yet, if you have an Ubuntu/Launchpad account you should click the "Affects me Too" button at the top
[19:56] <t4nk433> okay thanks
[19:56] <and2> TJ- yea, it should be using the recommended
[19:56] <Scunizi> How do I fix USB SD Card reader permission issues?
[19:57] <TJ-> and2: The only thing I can think is to test with another HDMI audio display if you have access to one, to be certain the audio isn't arriving at the device end
[19:57] <jhutchins> zamba: Your client is defaulting to a version of the NFS protocol that is disabled on the server.
[19:57] <subz3r0> Scunizi: chmod
[19:57] <subz3r0> or chown
[19:58] <and2> TJ- well, i already done that basically, since it works in Windows 7 when i reboot :P
[19:58] <zamba> jhutchins: ok.. and what do i do about that?
[19:58] <Scunizi> subz3r0: you'd think so but FAT32 doesn't support permissions.. it's in the system someplace and just recently started doing this out of the blue.. no modifications on my part.
[19:58] <TJ-> and2: Might be worth checking the "/var/log/kern.log" for any messages indicating audio problems, too
[19:58] <jhutchins> zamba: Figure out what version the servers using and specify that when you run the client.
[19:58] <subz3r0> Scunizi: still chmod or chown
[19:58] <subz3r0> im not talking about the filesystem of the usb card
[19:58] <TJ-> Scunizi: did you add the drive to "/etc/fstab" at some point?
[19:58] <Scunizi> subz3r0: ok. but what do I use the commands on? the mount point?
[19:59] <jhutchins> zamba: You could also reconfigure the server to be more tolerant if it's your server.
[19:59] <subz3r0> Scunizi: yes
[19:59] <Scunizi> TJ-: no..
[19:59] <zamba> jhutchins: it's my server, yeah
[19:59] <zamba> jhutchins: the server is running debian wheezy
[19:59] <subz3r0> e.g sudo chown $USER:$USER /media/mountbla
[19:59] <Scunizi> subz3r0: doesn't the mount point change depending on which usb port I plug the reader into?
[19:59] <TJ-> Scunizi: OK, because sometimes that can cause problems because it conflicts with the GVFS (Gnome Virtual File System) handler that usually mounts pluggable file-systems under /media/$USER/
[19:59] <zamba> jhutchins: frankly i don't know how to do that
[20:00] <subz3r0> if that does not work
[20:00] <subz3r0> sudo chmod 700 /media/blamountpoint
[20:00] <jhutchins> zamba: I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, I'd have to look them up in the man pages or the NFS howto, but you might just be able to read the comments in the NFS config file.
[20:01] <Scunizi> subz3r0: I'll give it a go.
[20:01] <jhutchins> zamba: I actually have a related bug pending fix release in the next minor of RHEL 6.
[20:01] <peloverde> How do I get non-unity menus in libreoffice in ubuntu 14.04?
[20:02] <subz3r0> peloverde: install a decent DE
[20:02] <zamba> jhutchins: installed the nfs-kernel-server instead
[20:02] <zamba> jhutchins: that fixed it
[20:03] <peloverde> unity is the official DE of ubuntu, surely it must be supported?
[20:03] <c2h6o> TJ-, you are a wizard :)
[20:03] <OerHeks> subz3r0, be helpfull please, else don't answer. thanks.
[20:03] <TJ-> c2h6o: explain?
[20:03] <subz3r0> OerHeks: it was helpfull. you're welcome
[20:04] <subcool> Hey, how do you network broadcast a WOL packet?? Etherwake wants a mac address
[20:04] <c2h6o> TJ-, you seem to have an answer to every question ;)...
[20:04] <subcool> c2h6o, TJ is a god..
[20:04] <c2h6o> subcool, agreed... /me bows to TJ
[20:04] <TJ-> c2h6o: Yeah... now imagine how many bugs I've hit myself to know all that!!!!
[20:05] <OerHeks> peloverde, if you don't want the menu op top panel, undo global menu.
[20:05] <jhutchins> subcool: Specify the broadcast address for the subnet?
[20:06] <c2h6o> TJ-, lol... yeah, can't imagine O_O... I need to find some good resources for beginners on linux
[20:06] <R13ose> there is a lot of feedback when I use my mic, is there a way to decrease this?
[20:06] <fridaynext> if i sudo update-rc.d sickbeard defaults - will that cause it to start up at system boot each time?
[20:06] <jhutchins> subcool: ie .255 for a class C.
[20:06] <TJ-> c2h6o: I generally find that breaking things, then trying to fix them, teaches me most of this arcane stuff :)
[20:06] <subcool> i was thinking that too.. but, etherwake doesnt support WOL on IP.
[20:06] <subcool> jhutchins,
[20:07] <jhutchins> subcool: Oh, MAC.
[20:07] <c2h6o> TJ-, would physically smashing my laptop help?
[20:07] <jhutchins> subcool: I wonder if you did all 00:00?
[20:07] <subcool> thats where im a bit lost.. is there another app that'll do it? jhutchins
[20:07] <subcool> ill give it a shot
[20:07] <subcool> didnt know mac had a broadcast address
[20:08] <subz3r0> jhutchins: there are no classes...
[20:08] <jhutchins> subz3r0: Doesn't really, I'm just swingin wildly.
[20:11] <jhutchins> subz3r0: Is the wol program available?
[20:12] <subcool> i have an app on my phone for it- but i switched out my servers, and dont have mac of it.
[20:12] <subz3r0> jhutchins: never used wake on lan before. kinda useless in a enterprise environment :)
[20:13] <subcool> its really simplictist. - I use to use WOL on enterprise all the time :/
[20:13] <subcool> its really simple, i just forgot about it- and i had a really cool program to do it for me.
[20:14] <jojoe> hello
[20:15] <subz3r0> subcool: never seen a enterprise environment which will be shut down
[20:15] <jhutchins> subcool: there is a wakeonlan package that might do it.
[20:15] <subz3r0> check the repos
[20:15] <subz3r0> apt-cache search WOL
[20:15] <jhutchins> subcool: subnet broadcasts are supported, some wake software allows addresses or even hostnames.
[20:16] <jhutchins> ,v wakeonlan
[20:16] <jhutchins> ?
[20:16] <jhutchins> Ah, different bot.  wakeonlan is on Debian, not sure what's on Ubuntu, aptitude search ~dwake
[20:17] <subz3r0> subcool: sudo apt-get install etherwake
[20:17] <subz3r0> for WOL
[20:17] <awreece> I'm trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages to install a debug kernel for trusty, but I'm failing to execute "sudo apt-get update" after importing the key
[20:18] <awreece> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964204/
[20:18] <awreece> does anyone know why I'd get "Hash Sum mismatch" ?
[20:18] <awreece> or, alternatively, a better forum for asking questions about that?
[20:19] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan#Command-line_tools - wakeonlan powerwake gWakeOnLan
[20:19] <jhutchins> subz3r0: He has etherwake, the problem is it wants a mac address and he needs to do a subnet broadcast.
[20:19] <amontalban> Anyone using drbd in EC2?
[20:20] <pbx> awreece, corrupted files i  think.   e.g. http://askubuntu.com/questions/144633/
[20:20] <amontalban> I'm getting some weird
[20:20] <amontalban> If I install the same package (drbd8-utils) in EC2 it shows me a wrong version
[20:20] <awreece> pbx we tried deleting the files it copmlained about
[20:21] <awreece> and re running, to no avail
[20:21] <amontalban> http://pastebin.com/tqEkSZRJ
[20:21] <pbx> awreece, and you updated after?
[20:21] <awreece> yup
[20:21] <pbx> awreece, then either the server they're being re-fetched from has corrupt files or... something else :\
[20:21] <jhutchins> amontalban: EC2?  Amazon cloud?
[20:22] <koell> Where do i edit the aliases from ´alias´? I need to ´unalias´ this works per session, but not on a new terminal. :/
[20:22] <awreece> yeah, thats why I pinged in here :)
[20:22] <jhutchins> !locate
[20:22] <awreece> cuz I figured somene here had access to the server, or could illuminate
[20:22] <TJ-> awreece: did you delete the 'partial' files and try again with 'update' ?
[20:22] <pbx> question: how do i remove something from the little email/chat envelope menu in the upper right?  (14.04 FWIW)
[20:22] <awreece> TJ- yes
[20:22] <jhutchins> koell: What ubottu said.
[20:22] <TJ-> awreece: Are you behind any kind of proxy?
[20:22] <amontalban> jhutchins: yes
[20:23] <amontalban> jhutchins: I'm using Ubuntu official images on EC2
[20:23] <jhutchins> amontalban: Their repos might not be the same.
[20:23] <amontalban> jhutchins: I compared the files and are the same
[20:23] <amontalban> I even downloaded it with wget and installed by hand
[20:23] <jhutchins> amontalban: They might have somethnig pinned in /etc/apt/preferences (I think that's the file).
[20:23] <awreece> TJ- nope
[20:23] <amontalban> It's really weird
[20:24] <jhutchins> amontalban: Something installed on a different path?
[20:24] <TJ-> awreece: Try manually comparing the checksums from the Release file, with the Packages and Packages.gz at fault
[20:24] <amontalban> jhutchins: I checked apt-cache policy drbd8-utils
[20:24] <amontalban> And both shows the same
[20:24] <TJ-> awreece: The Release file: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/trusty-security/Release
[20:24] <TJ-> awreece: The Packages files: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/trusty-security/main/binary-amd64/
[20:24] <amontalban> jhutchins: I tested also using full path to executable
[20:24] <koell> jhutchins: this will not work, locate only lists files containing "alias" in the path.
[20:25] <amontalban> But don't know really
[20:25] <amontalban> I'm quite lost and don't know where to go
[20:26] <TJ-> awreece: Looks like the checksums are incorrect doesn't it?
[20:26] <amontalban> jhutchins: I think it can be kernel related?
[20:27] <awreece> TJ- I'm confirming now
[20:27] <amontalban> jhutchins: in EC2 I have 3.2.0-67-virtual and in Vagrant I have 3.8.0-44-generic
[20:28] <subcool> subz3r0, i have etherwake, doesnt support IP,
[20:28] <TJ-> amontalban: Have you tried installing a custom build on the 'bad' server ?
[20:29] <catalase> are there any log analysis tools for linux
[20:29] <catalase> something that allows one to easily dump all of the system logs, apache logs, etc. and view them with some program instead of tailing each log individually
[20:29] <subz3r0> subcool: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wake-on-LAN#Across_your_intranet.2Fnetwork_.28router.29
[20:30] <subcool> subz3r0, not really atleast. I know what you mean about enterprise computers bening shutdown. but sometime we had the employee that coudnt "find" the computer, so we would search and turn it on ourselves.
[20:30] <TJ-> amontalban: Your pastebin looks identical to me
[20:30] <amontalban> TJ-: No, just using Ubuntu official packages
[20:31] <TJ-> amontalban: both show "Installed: 2:8.4.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.2" ... where is the version difference?
[20:31] <awreece> TJ- yeah, they don't seem to match
[20:31] <TJ-> awreece: I wonder if there's a security archive issue?
[20:31] <amontalban> TJ-: I think it's related to the kernel module for drbd
[20:32] <awreece> I dunno
[20:32] <awreece> who would I need to ping?
[20:33] <jhutchins> subcool: Did you see the four alternatives to etherwake that I posted along with the link to the official ubuntu docs for it?
[20:33] <gardenlayout> where is the minimize all button in ubuntu?
[20:33] <TJ-> awreece: Looking the 'queue' directory there are some packages from today, I wonder if they're being added... ask mdeslaur (Marc Deslauriers) in #ubuntu-hardened
[20:34] <subcool> jhutchins, kinda? i got the Wakeonlan command line tools one
[20:34] <OerHeks> gardenlayout, "show desktop' icon on the unitybar
[20:34] <NsaAdvisor> hum ubuntu only runs at 640x480 in virtualbox
[20:34] <gardenlayout> unity bar?
[20:34] <awreece> ok
[20:34] <awreece> htanks
[20:34] <NsaAdvisor> wich id known that befor i installed
[20:34]  * awreece join #ubuntu-hardened
[20:35] <R13ose> there is a lot of feedback when I use my mic, is there a way to decrease this?
[20:35] <Berto> Is there an easy way to set removable drive permissions in 14.04?  I can't find anything simple!
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  reduce the input level
[20:37] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: input volume?
[20:37] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: there is no way in my settings to decrease input level here.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  in a terminal, type   alsamixer    find the input volume
[20:38] <fridayne_> why is it that when i access a smb share, and an nfs mount that both reference the same directory - there's different stuff in them?
[20:38] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: nothing says input volume.
[20:38] <awreece> TJ- fyi, its been like this since weekend at least
[20:39] <coolstar> what's the best ftp client for kubuntu?
[20:39] <pbx> coolstar, what are your criteria?
[20:39] <capable> coolstar: apt-cache search ftp | grep -i k
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  i guess it's mic boost... explore alsamixer a bit
[20:39] <coolstar> pbx: it just needs to be able to connect to ftp and sftp servers, manage files, and set permissions
[20:39] <pbx> coolstar, what would make one better than another, for you?
[20:40] <Kamilion> adding "nodmraid raid=noautodetect" to my kernel command line should prevend dmraid and mdadm from trying to bring up arrays on boot, correct?
[20:40] <coolstar> pbx: one that fits in with the rest of the KDE UI
[20:40] <pbx> coolstar, what have you looked at so far?
[20:40] <subcool> jhutchins, im not having much luck with this they are soo simple.. but-- it just keeps coming back with invalid syntex
[20:41] <coolstar> pbx: I'm taking a look at the software center currently, just wondered if there was any that is recommended by others
[20:41] <subcool> powerwake -b 255.255.255.255
[20:42] <capable> subcool: if you insist
[20:42] <subcool> hahahaa
[20:42] <jmis> flerp
[20:42] <jmis_> flerp
[20:44] <jl420> hey Im having no luck playing dvds using ubuntu 14.04. Im new to ubuntu and linux in general. I have installed vlc and libdvdcss codecs. Also installed restricted extras package..... Any help would be greatly appreciated..
[20:44] <TJ-> awreece: I just checked the Releases.gpg signature and it is good, so it looks like the Releases file hasn't been updated since July 20th at least, not sure if that is relevant though
[20:45] <capable> jl420: what does mplayer dvd:// say?
[20:46] <jl420> vlc is unable to open the mrl dev//dvd
[20:46] <capable> jl420: what about /dev/sr0
[20:47] <jl420> i will copy and paste the error
[20:48] <SvenOostenbrink> Ubuntu 14.04, on my development laptop. I found apache to be down, so I sudo service apache2 start, then I get "(98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80".. I do  netstat -lnptu | grep 80, and with program name I get "-"... wut?
[20:48] <Zaci1> asdf
[20:48] <SvenOostenbrink> How can I find what process is using port 80 right now??
[20:48] <jl420> Playback failure: DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0". Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[20:48] <rww> SvenOostenbrink: use sudo to run netstat. you need to be running with administrative privileges to see program names in it
[20:48] <capable> jl420: how many CD/DVD drives do you have?
[20:49] <SvenOostenbrink> rww: Dohhh! There you go!  Thanks!
[20:49] <jl420> just one its a laptop. the drive is working
[20:49] <capable> jl420: what makes you think it's working?
[20:50] <TJ-> jl420: possible I/O errors, check with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and then try VLC again
[20:50] <jl420> when i put the dvd in it spins up and then on the screen it pops up unable to mount (movie name)
[20:50] <capable> k
[20:50] <capable> jl420: can you try with mplayer?
[20:51] <jl420> TJ more specific instructions for doing that
[20:51] <izabera> guys, i know this is a very stupid question, but i can only type 3 characters per key. how am i supposed to access the 4th? http://i.imgur.com/nhNgV9T.png
[20:51] <TJ-> jl420: I don't think I can be more specific, I gave you the exact command!
[20:51] <jl420> capable ive tried m player as well it does nothing
[20:51] <capable> jl420: what does nothing?
[20:52] <jl420> TJ lol sorry didnt realizeit was the command
[20:52] <jl420> m player doesnt give me an error but doesnt play back either
[20:52] <Zaci1> mj
[20:52] <jhutchins> jl420: Try mplayer in a console.
[20:53] <Zaci1> asdf
[20:53] <capable> jl420: could you try 'mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://'
[20:53] <capable> jl420: and also /dev/dvd, and any other /dev/ you might suspect
[20:53] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: I think that fixed this but if not I will be back when I have to use the mic again
[20:54] <capable> jl420: also, try as root
[20:54] <jl420> capable whats a root
[20:54] <capable> jl420: prepending 'sudo '
[20:55] <onr> hi, my aptitude's autocomplete feature suddenly became ridiculously slow
[20:56] <onr> (it's still fast for local autocompletion btw, for example when using aptitude remove)
[20:56] <capable> onr: and slow for...?
[20:57] <onr> cap3lla: slow for aptitude install
[20:57] <jl420> capable i will give this a try and get back to u in one moment. Could u give me the exact commands i will need to use please
[20:57] <onr> (also slow for apt-get)
[20:57] <onr> capable: ^
[20:57] <Dougie187> Two questions about encryption... 1) Is there a way to encrypt an external drive such that it can be read in both ubuntu and osx. 2) Can a luks drive be read in ubuntu through a virtual machine?
[20:58] <TJ-> Dougie187: 1) possibly with TrueCrypt (or its fork(s)) 2) Yes, if the raw block device is connected to the VM
[20:58] <capable> jl420: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[20:58] <capable> jl420: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/dvd dvd://
[20:58] <Dougie187> TJ-: Ok, thanks. I'll look at truecrypt
[20:58] <capable> jl420: sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[20:58] <capable> jl420: sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/dvd dvd://
[20:59] <capable> jl420: you can also look in /dev/ (ls /dev/) and see if anything else looks like it could be it
[21:00] <jl420> TJ this is what i got when i used your command
[21:01] <jl420> joe@joe-Laptop:~$ tail -f /var/log/kern.log Aug  5 16:48:08 joe-Laptop kernel: [ 1947.507508] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]  Aug  5 16:48:08 joe-Laptop kernel: [ 1947.507517] Info fld=0x107 Aug  5 16:48:08 joe-Laptop kernel: [ 1947.507523] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0]   Aug  5 16:48:08 joe-Laptop kernel: [ 1947.507530] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error Aug  5 16:48:08 joe-Laptop kernel: [ 1947.507537] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB:  Aug  5 16:48:08
[21:04] <jhutchins> !paste | jl420
[21:05] <knob> Hello guys.  Some n00b questions.  I went to login to one of my servers now.  It returned "This service allows sftp connections only."       I have root access via VNC (it is a remote VPS).
[21:05] <jhutchins> jl420: It looks like your drive is unable to read that particular disk.  How old is the drive?  Laptop or desktop?
[21:05] <knob> How can I re-enable access via ssh for this user?
[21:05] <jhutchins> knob: WHo set it up?
[21:05] <capable> knob: dpkg -L openssh-server | grep -i etc
[21:05] <knob> I had disabled root access via ssh via sshd_config        PermitRootLogin no
[21:06] <knob> jhutchins, I did... little by little.   I started at zero, and... well, kinda got lost somewhere.
[21:06] <jhutchins> knob: Then you need to change that, althoug it's odd that it's saying it allows sftp.
[21:06] <knob> capable, going to login via VNC and run that
[21:06] <jhutchins> knob: Notebooks and pencils are wonderful things even in this day and age.
[21:06] <knob> jhutchins, I was playing with ftp uploads and I think that's where I messed up
[21:07] <knob> jhutchins, I know man.   I keep a "ledger" digital in my computer... yet I don't see anything specific to causing that.  Although obviously, it was my doing.
[21:07] <jhutchins> knob: Take a look at the settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:07] <jhutchins> knob: By default, there is no root login in ubuntu, so that might be what it falls back on.
[21:08] <knob> Ok... I am loading it via VNC now...
[21:08] <jl420> Its reading the disc. when i put it in theres a dvd symbol in the toolbar if i bring my curser over it, it says the name of the movie. But it comes up unable to mount. As far as playing the dvd Ive been trying to use vlc. If there is a better way to play dvds on ubuntu 14.04 could someone let me know please. I had windows xp on this laptop and all dvds played fine. I just recently switched to ubuntu and i love it other than this small 
[21:08] <TJ-> knob: Did you add "command=sftp ..." to the authorized_users file?
[21:08] <Aline22>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1y2SGSo
[21:08] <knob> TJ-, not sure... can't find anything on my notes that I did that.
[21:09] <TJ-> knob: you probably set the user's shell to /usr/lib/sftp-server
[21:10] <and2> cant get this hdmi sound to work =(
[21:11] <capable> and2: sure your cable supports audio?
[21:11] <knob> Ok... I am trying to login now.   I have the VNC console up, yet... it doesn't want to "paste" my clipboard.   So I am typing the passwords out.
[21:11] <and2> capable yea, works perfectly fine under Windoze
[21:12] <capable> and2: okay, what's the audio device?
[21:12] <jl420> does anyone here know how i can get dvd playback to work with ubuntu
[21:12] <TJ-> jl420: Did you check the kern.log as I suggested?
[21:12] <and2> capable audio device? im trying to play movies on my TV, and using the HDMI output
[21:13] <onr> how to clear apt-cache?
[21:13] <capable> and2: yeah, what does 'alsamixer' say is the device?
[21:13] <jl420> TJ i did check it and i pasted the results here
[21:13] <and2> capable the Intel Chip, i tried to unmute it etc, but i cant adjust the volume like i can with the other devices
[21:13] <TJ-> jl420: I must have been away when you did, let me scrool back
[21:14] <TJ-> jl420: well the problem is obvious isn't it? " Sense: Unrecovered read error"
[21:14] <TJ-> jl420: A bad disk, or a disk that is incompatible with that player
[21:14] <capable> and2: so 'sudo lspci | grep -i audio' just says intel?
[21:14] <and2> capable but ubuntu recognizing the device everytime i reconnect the monitor, and recognizing the new audio device, so it should be working  .. just no sound
[21:14] <and2> sec
[21:15] <jl420> TJ is it because of copywrite because it does it with every dvd
[21:15] <and2> "00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
[21:15] <and2> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[21:15] <and2> "
[21:15] <and2> that is the output
[21:16] <capable> and2: alright, what I'd do is run 'alsamixer', and hit TAB and use the left/right arrow keys to move about, and find the channels that are toggles, that change options instead of just sound levels, and try toggling those
[21:17] <TJ-> jl420: possible the drive is damaged
[21:18] <and2> capable all the channels have been unmuted etc. still no succes
[21:18] <jl420> TJ even if it tells me the name of the movie and shows a disc symbol in the side bar?
[21:18] <capable> and2: it's not about muting, there should be toggles
[21:18] <capable> did you not read what I said? =)
[21:19] <and2> well yea, it toggles between the different views =) ?
[21:19] <knob> wow.... I think I am really locked out of this TJ-
[21:19] <TJ-> jl420: There are all manner of reasons a drive can fail... some just don't like particular makes of disk, others are very picky about their tracking, and will only read a dick they also wrote
[21:19] <knob> jhutchins, I think... that I am sol
[21:20] <TJ-> knob: connect via the remote console, reboot to Recovery single-user mode, fix, reboot
[21:21] <knob> TJ-, ... hmm... googling that
[21:21] <knob> sounds like a plan
[21:22] <knob> TJ-, I got access with a secondary user
[21:22] <knob> Let me see if I can sudo up
[21:22] <TJ-> knob: as long as that user has sudo privs you're sorted then
[21:22] <jl420> TJ before i did the change over from xp to ubuntu 14.04 I had no problem playing these same dvds. than i installed ubuntu using the live cd i made. Since than i cannot playback dvds. Not burnt ones or anything but real ones
[21:23] <knob> TJ-, sol again.    This user is not in the sudoers file.
[21:23] <TJ-> knob: On remote servers I always have a back-up admin account that is used only for emergencies... in other words, sometimes never used at all :)
[21:23] <knob> grr
[21:23] <TJ-> knob: OK, it's console via IPMI, KVM, or what ever
[21:23] <jl420> TJ thats what leads me to think the drive is fine and its something im missing. But u say that error in the kernal shows a bad disc or drive?
[21:24] <CryNickSystems> hi guys
[21:24] <TJ-> jl420: If all the discs are encrypted and you've not got libdvdcss correctly installed that could, maybe, cause this, but I'd be surprised it gives a sense error
[21:24] <TJ-> jl420: will the PC play regular audio CDs, for example?
[21:25] <CryNickSystems> I have a problem with LUKS and the decrypt_derived script :( Is anyone using that in here or may be able to help me with that?
[21:25] <knob> TJ-, got the recovery mode.   Yet now my root password is not working.   I must have written it wrong.
[21:25] <knob> o_0
[21:27] <TJ-> knob: instead of 'recovery', reboot, edit the Recovery GRUB menu  item, and change "recovery" to "single" on the "linux ..." command-line, that should take it directly to runlevel 1 single-user shell
[21:27] <sn33zy> what is the appropiate channel to go to chat with people to volunteer my time?
[21:28] <capable> sn33zy: to what, ubuntu?
[21:28] <capable> !contribute
[21:29] <sn33zy> capable, i looked at the contribute page and there is just too much to do lol... im bored and I want to help someone who is online
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: try: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[21:31] <capable> sn33zy: you can do that here
[21:31] <knob> TJ-, I rebooted,
[21:31] <knob> I have two options on the GRUB menu    Ubuntu         and Advanced options for Ubuntu
[21:31] <knob> the editing of the Recovery GRUB menu item, that's on this step?
[21:32] <TJ-> knob: Select "Advanced" sub-menu
[21:33] <TJ-> knob: Then highlight the "Recovery" option and press 'e' to edit it, then navigate the cursor to the "linux ..." line, move to "recovery" and replace it with "single", then press Ctrl+X to boot with the modified command line
[21:33] <knob> Ok... and in there, I hit 'e' for editing  the first            or the                  second line (recovery mode)
[21:34] <knob> awesome... found it.  Doing that now!
[21:34] <r0x> hi
[21:34] <TJ-> knob: The 'recovery' menu that requires log-in is provided by the "friendly-recovery" package, in case you ever have the need to know that :)
[21:34] <r0x> ubuntu, on my pc, doesn't work. How i can fix the problem?
[21:35] <knob> What the heck... it dropped me into a line asking me for the root password again.
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> r0x  start by giving more details about 'not work'
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> R0x: how can we reply to "doesn't work"
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> R0x: we can't see your system. Think aboutnit
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !details | r0x
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> R0x: details.....
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Knob: did you set a root password?
[21:37] <knob> no
[21:37] <TJ-> knob: Hmmm, someone did :)
[21:37] <r0x> when I'm working on my distro, sometimes there are a lot of operations on the disk and the os totally freezes
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Knob: are there multiple users with sudo access?
[21:37] <r0x> the mouse doesn't move
[21:37] <jl420> TJ I dont think its the drive i cannot playback anything using vlc. Not streaming or dl files
[21:37] <knob> Yes... well, ok clearly I messed up.            I
[21:37] <knob> ActionParsnip, yes.
[21:37] <r0x> the system doesn't respond to any command
[21:37] <r0x> even ctrl
[21:37] <jl420> TJ same MRL error
[21:37] <TJ-> knob: on, reboot, do the same edit but instead of "recovery" this time replace it with "init=/bin/bash"
[21:37] <knob> I have one in my notes that has sudo
[21:37] <knob> ok
[21:38] <knob> on my way
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> r0x  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[21:38] <r0x> * ctrl + alt + f1 to log to another console
[21:38] <capable> r0x: more ram, more cores, higher nices
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> R0x: I suggest you run Memtest86+ from Grub
[21:38] <r0x> capable: if running only chrome uses 4 gb of rams... but i don't think so
[21:39] <knob> TJ-, that did it!
[21:39] <knob> I have the prompt now
[21:39] <TJ-> knob: You'll end up with the bash shell, with no init system having run, the file-system should be read-write but you need to check that. If it is, you can then modify the user accounts as needed
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Knob: one of them has set the password. You can use a liveCD and chroot to the installed OS.
[21:39] <knob> Should I follow the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[21:39] <capable> r0x: it's probably the hard disk speed, or the processor speed/lack of cores
[21:39] <TJ-> knob: yes, to be sure, do that
[21:39] <knob> running   mount -o remount,rw /
[21:39] <r0x> i have an i7
[21:39] <jl420> I cannot playback any videos using vlc i get a "vlc is unable to open the MRL followed by whatever the file or path is
[21:40] <r0x> for god sakes
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> capable: I run ubuntu on 2Gb ram on a single core 1.6Ghz sempron wiyhout issue
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> capable: sata 1 hdd
[21:40] <r0x> what i should mount on my pc? capable
[21:40] <capable> ActionParsnip: congratulations
[21:40] <capable> the cache comes into play as well
[21:40] <TJ-> r0x: Are you using the -lowlatency kernel?
[21:40] <capable> there are a hundred hardware variables
[21:40] <TJ-> r0x: show us "uname -a"
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> capable: debunking your cpu / ram idea, no?
[21:40] <capable> ActionParsnip: no
[21:41] <r0x> I'm using the standard version available from the website
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> capable: the guy has an i7 too so will be fine.
[21:41] <jl420> Could anybody assist me with the vlc MRL error i am receiving please
[21:41] <r0x> with no modifications
[21:41] <capable> ActionParsnip: never said it wouldn't
[21:41] <capable> jl420: you try those mplayer commands?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> R0x: check ram in Grub. Bad RAM will cause issues
[21:42] <r0x> But with other operating systems(even other distros) i don't have that problem
[21:42] <r0x> it's so strange
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> capable: but my system is significantly lower spec, so how can your suggestion ring true?
[21:42] <jrow> Hi
[21:42] <capable> r0x: really, what other distros?
[21:42] <capable> jrow: hi
[21:42] <skypce> hello people
[21:42] <TJ-> r0x: have you reviewed the system log-files for clues?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> R0x: its worth exploring just to rule it out as a cause
[21:42] <capable> ActionParsnip: I already said
[21:42] <capable> you were probably busy typing
[21:42] <melow01> I'm trying to connect to my organization's Wifi that uses Active Directory authentication. Any recommendations?
[21:43] <jrow> I hav an 8GB SSD that isn't being used for anything -- can anyone suggest how I can enable ubuntu to take advantage of it?
[21:43] <jl420> capable yes do i need to install mplayer and get rid of vlc
[21:43] <skypce> i am with ubuntu 12.04 - i am trying to compile a package and i have this error?checking for GLIB - version >= 2.39.1... no
[21:43] <capable> jl420: you need to install mplayer to try mplayer commands, yes
[21:43] <bekks> !info glib2 precise
[21:43] <r0x> capable: for example, Debian
[21:43] <capable> skypce: sounds like it wants glibc, version 2.39.1 or higher
[21:43] <bekks> !info glib precise
[21:43] <bekks> hmm :)
[21:43] <capable> r0x: you were using Debian the same way?
[21:44] <skypce> thank you capable
[21:44] <jl420> capable sorry i knew that i copied and pasted your codes i meant do i need to remove vlc first
[21:44] <bekks> capable: glibc 2.39? It wel be released in a few decades.
[21:44] <knob> TJ-, and ActionParsnip , I am checking sshd_config, and I modified (at some point)     ForceCommand internal-sftp           Should I comment this out?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> capable: your suggestion was more ram and more cores. Both of which are higher than my rig
[21:44] <capable> glib then
[21:44] <TJ-> knob: That would help :D
[21:44] <knob> TJ-, ok.
[21:44] <capable> ActionParsnip: I remember my suggestionS
[21:44] <knob> on my way
[21:44] <capable> even the ones you didn't read
[21:45] <r0x> capable: yes! Generally, i use linux to surf on intenet, write some lines of code in C/C++ and papers with LaTeX
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> capable: in short its far and away better than my 8 year old sytem.
[21:45] <capable> r0x: so not even anything intense?
[21:45] <r0x> yes
[21:45] <capable> ActionParsnip: sure you aren't a parrot?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> capable: im sure an i7 motherboard is not using sata 1
[21:45] <bekks> skypce: What exactly are you trying to compile?
[21:45] <capable> ActionParsnip: you are?
[21:45] <capable> ActionParsnip: what else is it not using, I'm eager to know
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> capable: I dont see your point
[21:46] <jl420> capable theres an smplayer and an mplayer which one do i want
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> capable: ubuntu doesnt need a big system to run is my point
[21:46] <capable> ActionParsnip: you said that ages ago
[21:46] <capable> I acknowledge your non-seeing of my point
[21:46] <capable> jl420: mplayer
[21:46] <capable> ActionParsnip: that is a fine point
[21:46] <capable> it just has nothing to do with anything I care about at this moment
[21:46] <capable> being irrelevant to all conversations I have been having
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> capable: so saying cpu spec and ram is not a valid suggestion of speed on the basic desktop
[21:47]  * capable hands ActionParsnip a cracker
[21:47] <jl420> capable ok thank u i will install quick try those commands and post the results here in a min
[21:47] <wakan> #ubuntu-fr
[21:47] <capable> jl420: righto
[21:47] <knob> TJ-, ActionParsnip running as it should!   Now I was able to login remotely
[21:47] <TJ-> knob *phew*
[21:47] <knob> The key saved on the local computer worked perfectly... I think we ware good to go!
[21:47] <Basketball> hey skypce you get it
[21:48] <knob> TJ-, HA!  Dude, yes *phew*!!!!!!!      I had already started a new document for the new server ledger!!
[21:48] <knob> lol
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> capable: I suggest you check the suggested requirements for ubuntu. They are lower than you think
[21:48] <capable> ActionParsnip: since I already know them, they are exactly what I think
[21:49]  * capable yawns
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> capable: so why does the user need more ram or cpu cores on an i7 with 4Gb ram?
[21:49] <capable> ActionParsnip: you tell me
[21:49] <capable> I have never made any such assertion
[21:50] <melow01> I'm trying to connect to my organization's Wifi that uses Active Directory authentication.  Ubuntu 13.10. Any recommendations?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> melow01  13.10 is !eol, upgrade first, then ask again
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> capable: you dont think its enough. I'm saying it is. So if you know the suggested spec why would the user need to upgrade
[21:50] <capable> ActionParsnip: tell me what other things of my mind you know better than myself, please =P
[21:50] <capable> this is interesting
[21:51] <TJ-> capable: ActionParsnip Please take your discussion out of support, thanks :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> capable: im only stating what you have said. More cores and more ram right?
[21:51] <fridaynext> so i've got files in /etc/init.d/ as well as /etc/defaults, and i've update-rc.d'd them and chmod +x'd them, but they still don't start at bootup. Ideas why?
[21:51] <capable> ActionParsnip: even if you had only been stating what I'd said (you haven't), why would you do that? It seems pointless
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: just calling a guy out.
[21:51] <jl420> capable could u please give me the sr0 command i seem to have lost it i have the dvd one
[21:51] <bekks> !upstart | fridaynext
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> capable: because your solution to th issue is bogus
[21:52] <capable> jl420: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[21:52] <melow01> MonkeyDust, pretend that I'm on the latest distro... what should I do?
[21:52] <capable> jl420: sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[21:52] <capable> ActionParsnip: nah
[21:52] <skypce> bekks, i want compile gnome-software , i was donwloaded sources from git latest
[21:52] <jl420> capable thank u
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> capable: I just proved how and why exactly. Please don't give false / misguided solutions to users. Thanks
[21:53] <skypce> bekks, i want compile and after create a deb package with dh_make
[21:53] <capable> you sure did
[21:53] <TJ-> r0x: You said the mouse freezes, and described a lot of disk activity. That suggests a combination of some process causing swap space to be used, which can lead to delayed input handling especially if only using the CFQ scheduler, rather than the Deadline. I'd keep a terminal open with "top" running in it, and see what it shows when the system next gets frozen
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> skypce: you can use checkinstall to make debs from compiled source
[21:53] <skypce> wow thank you ActionParsnip
[21:53] <skypce> i will test
[21:54] <fridaynext> bekks: that looks exactly like what i've already done...
[21:54] <Wylley> is this the correct channel for ubuntu server support?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> skypce: instead of: sudo make install , use: sudo checkinstall
[21:54] <fridaynext> Wylley: #ubuntu-server
[21:54] <Wylley> thanks fridaynext
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Wylley: there is #ubuntu-server
[21:54] <skypce> oo very very thank you Action Paradisee
[21:54] <skypce> oo very very thank you ActionParsnip
[21:55] <skypce> sorry
[21:55] <r0x> TJ-, i tried several times to change the disk scheduler but i don't get any improvment
[21:55] <skypce> jeje crazy fingers
[21:55] <Basketball> skypce:  ActionParsnip is the best he used to help me all the time
[21:55] <skypce> great
[21:55] <skypce> let me take notes
[21:55] <TJ-> r0x: it isn't the disk scheduler, its the process scheduler
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Skypce: it will need installing extra but very handy and makes archibing and distribution (pun intended) easier
[21:56] <r0x> TJ-, but how is possible that with the default distro setting i get this sort of trouble?
[21:56] <skypce> thank you ActionParsnip nice to meet you
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> skypce: np matey
[21:57] <TJ-> r0x: Does it happen if you simply log-in and do *nothing* - as in, do not start any applications at all?
[21:57] <r0x> usually happens when i use chrome
[21:57] <TJ-> r0x: It sounds to me as if there might be a run-away Javascript in the browser, if that is the only process running when this happens.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> R0x: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:57] <r0x> or when i run virtualbox
[21:58] <r0x> in this moment i can't access to the system
[21:58] <r0x> i'm writing from another pc
[21:58] <sywuys> Good like
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> R0x: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 do you get to TTY1?
[21:58] <r0x> nope
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Bah
[21:58] <r0x> it's totally frozen
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> R0x: is it a home build? Or is it a branded pc?
[21:59] <TJ-> r0x: Do you have to do a power reset to recover?
[21:59] <r0x> it's a laptop
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> R0x: what make and model please?
[21:59] <r0x> an asus k53sj
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> R0x: what releaee of Ubuntu did you install?
[22:01] <r0x> the latest available in this moment from the website
[22:01] <capable> r0x: that is not a version
[22:01] <r0x> but i had that problem since 12.04
[22:01] <jl420> capable I downloaded mplayer but when i try to launch it i get a fatal error about skins
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> R0x: seems to be a switching GPU, optimus
[22:01] <capable> jl420: downloaded?
[22:02] <capable> jl420: or ran sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[22:02] <usr13> r0x: cat /etc/issue
[22:02] <r0x> yes, but i never installed the nvidia drivers
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> R0x: did you instal bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[22:02] <TJ-> r0x: If it is totally frozen and not responding, that points to a hardware issue. I'd be doing a soak-test of memory using memtest86+ available from the boot menu, and checking the system logs for clues ("/var/log/kern.log")
[22:02] <tac-tics> What is LVM for?
[22:02] <capable> tac-tics: people without foresight
[22:02] <tac-tics> that sounds a little like me...
[22:02] <TJ-> tac-tics: Logical Volume Management
[22:02] <capable> tac-tics: it makes it easy to change things to do with your partitions and filesystems after you've made them
[22:03] <capable> tac-tics: and a few other things
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: allows you to expand a filesystem by adding additional space to a pool
[22:03] <tac-tics> Does it complicate anything, or is it a no-briner choice?
[22:03] <capable> which most people don't care about or need =)
[22:03] <capable> tac-tics: it significantly complicates things
[22:03] <r0x> ActionParsnip, neither of two
[22:03] <tac-tics> kk
[22:03] <capable> tac-tics: but only if something goes wrong
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: is it a physical server?
[22:03] <capable> which happens =)
[22:03] <quantibility> alright xfce developers?
[22:03] <capable> quantibility: ?
[22:03] <jl420> capable I try to launch mplayer and it gives me a fatal skin error and wont launch
[22:03] <quantibility> heh
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> R0x: you will need it to suport that technology
[22:03] <quantibility> xfce sucks.
[22:03] <tac-tics> hmmmm
[22:03] <quantibility> no offense
[22:03] <quantibility> sorry
[22:03] <quantibility> none
[22:03] <capable> jl420: sudo apt-get install mplayer; sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[22:03] <tac-tics> this screen has the "continue" button greyed out :X
[22:03] <TJ-> !ot | quantibility
[22:03] <quantibility> just saying lol
[22:04] <capable> quantibility: compared to what?
[22:04] <usr13> quantibility: Do you have a question>?
[22:04] <quantibility> yes
[22:04] <quantibility> i do
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: or is it a vmware system or virtualbox?
[22:04] <tac-tics> no
[22:04] <tac-tics> it's a new laptop
[22:04] <tac-tics> just out of the box
[22:04] <jl420> ok so install it from the terminal instead of the software center?
[22:04] <usr13> quantibility: Ask it. (We are not interested in your opinions.)
[22:04] <r0x> ActionParsnip, whenever i tried to install the drivers, i got problems
[22:04] <capable> jl420: sure
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: then I doubt lvm will be useful to you.
[22:04] <tac-tics> well, I can't seem to proceed at all
[22:05] <tac-tics> It's the "Install Type" screen using a USB stick to install
[22:05] <r0x> so i decided to don't install nothing. I got a huge number of troubles installing the nvidia driver, even using apt
[22:05] <tac-tics> and the continue button is greyed out under every permutation of options I've chosen
[22:05] <quantibility> sorry no offense but after dealing with issues with xfce that i have had on SolusOS and Xubuntu i made an effort to bring it to the attention of the people who can do something about it and been self teaching myself programming since 11 however its been a while since i have touched it
[22:05] <jl420> capable ill try un-installing and re-installing mplayer now than
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:05] <capable> jl420: k
[22:05] <quantibility> i am now 35
[22:05] <tac-tics> ActionParsnip: I did not.
[22:06] <usr13> r0x: What version of Ubuntu are you using?  (What does cat /etc/issue say?)
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: then how do you know the data you downloaded was complete and consistent?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> tac-tics: or did you download using torrents?
[22:06] <capable> tac-tics: what isn't grayed out?
[22:06] <r0x> usr13, as i said before, i  had this problem since 12.04. So i don't think that the version is relevant
[22:07] <usr13> r0x: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:07] <tac-tics> huh... it looks like a bug. I went back to the previous screen and forward again, and it's not greyed out
[22:07] <nightdemon666> Can anyone help me with a firefox browser crashing issue please?
[22:07] <capable> tac-tics: good times
[22:07] <usr13> nightdemon666: What seems to be the problem?
[22:07] <capable> nightdemon666: no, but some one possibly could
[22:07] <r0x> 14.04.1
[22:07] <bobptz> my pc does not boot any more.  Gives error: "Could not write bytes: broken pipes”.  Can somebody help me? This is the dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[22:08] <usr13> r0x: Fully updated?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:08] <TeraJL> hi there, how can i install notify-send? i don't use unity
[22:08] <usr13> nightdemon666: What version of firefox are you running?
[22:08] <TeraJL> i'm with a minimal install
[22:08] <r0x> yes, it seems that more updates i install, more troubles i get
[22:08] <capable> TeraJL: ask apt-file
[22:08] <capable> TeraJL: what wm/DE are you using?
[22:09] <usr13> r0x: After it is fully updated, come back if you still have a problem.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !find notify-send
[22:09] <quantibility> USR13: i private messaged you the problem is all sorry for saying it sucks wish i could help develop it
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
[22:09] <nightdemon666> Usr13, i have ubuntu 14.04.1 (64 bit mac) installed on an intel mac mini from 2007. Firefox seems to crash when playing youtube videos in full screen mode. Ive done a number of test to duplicate the fail, i also intend to test in non-full screen mode to see if it crashes
[22:10] <r0x> the last version that i'm able to use without problems date back to 2008
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> nightdemon666: does it happen in Chrome?
[22:10] <bobptz> my pc does not boot any more.  Gives error: "Could not write bytes: broken pipes”.  Can somebody help me? This is the dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[22:10] <tac-tics> ext4 is a good default for new general-purpose partitions, right?
[22:10] <high_fiver> bobptz, describe your partitioning scheme
[22:11] <Beldar> !patience | bobptz
[22:11] <TJ-> r0x: Have you examined "/var/log/kern.log" for signs of errors, such as disk I/O errors?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: I had that, it was a dying hdd :-(
[22:11] <TJ-> tac-tics: Yes
[22:11] <capable> tac-tics: ^
[22:11] <bobptz> I do not know my partitioning scheme.  it is dual boot with windows 7
[22:11] <nightdemon666> Usr13, ive tried many tricks, not all have been performed yet (e.g running firefox in safe mode, or disabling each plugin/extension one by one), but im wondering if any one else has had this problem with ubuntu 14.04?
[22:12] <high_fiver> bobptz, did you install windows after ubuntu?
[22:12] <tac-tics> and if I have an SSD and a regular disk HD, I want to put / on the SSD and, say, /home on the regular HD?
[22:12] <r0x> TJ-, i will do asap
[22:13] <bobptz> high_fiver, don;t remember, I installed them 1 year ago.  everything was fine until I upgraded ubuntu to new hardware
[22:13] <capable> bobptz: that sounds like an error after it has booted but before X starts
[22:13] <bekks> tac-tics: Put / and /home on the SSD, and /data on the HDD.
[22:13] <tac-tics> is that a non-insane setup, is what I'm asking
[22:13] <r0x> but i think to remember that wasn't nothing relevant in the logs
[22:13] <high_fiver> bobptz, which hardware did you upgrade?
[22:13] <tac-tics> bekks: and then just symlink to stuff in my home dir, I take it?
[22:13] <capable> tac-tics: if it all fits on the ssd, you could put it all there
[22:13] <bobptz> if you want more details, here is the forum post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238041&p=13091428#post13091428
[22:14] <bobptz> I upgraded through the upgrade manager of ubuntu
[22:14] <r0x> if is an hw failure, maybe the system has not had the time to log
[22:14] <bobptz> and then the problems started
[22:14] <r0x> but i will check better
[22:14] <bekks> tac-tics: No symlinks needed.
[22:14] <bobptz> I am sure it has to be some driver
[22:14] <capable> bobptz: you using nvidia?
[22:14] <r0x> and deeper
[22:14] <bobptz> I have intel graphics card
[22:14] <bobptz> but I dont know what driver I use
[22:14] <capable> bobptz: try mv'ing ~/.Xauthority elsewhere temporarily
[22:14] <nightdemon666> Usr13, i have not tested with another browser yet, but have considered that also... Personally i really want to use the firefox browser only and im trying to avoid work arounds. I have run firefox in debug mode and have at least rid the messages for VDPAU
[22:15] <TJ-> bobptz: Have you tried booting it with an older kernel, by holding Shift key down as the PC starts until you see the Grub Boot Menu, then you can select an older kernel that is still installed.
[22:15] <bobptz> I have erased everything older from the Janitor - ubuntu tweak
[22:15] <bobptz> and this broke my system
[22:16] <TJ-> bobptz: uh-oh, that explains it :)
[22:16] <Beldar> bobptz, boot a live ubuntu and use the disks smart check on the HD.
[22:16] <bobptz> capable, I do not know how to do it
[22:16] <nightdemon666> Usr13, sorry if that was too much info...
[22:16] <high_fiver> TJ-, what what?
[22:16] <capable> bobptz: mv -n ~/.Xauthority ~/oldxauthority
[22:17] <Beldar> ubuntu tweaks janitor will not cause this
[22:17] <bobptz> Beldar, it is a notebook, I am on vacation, I cnnot do live cd
[22:17] <Beldar> bobptz, Than use a usb.
[22:17] <jl420> capable I have installed mplayer and tried the codes u suggested. mplayer wont even open from the interface some skin errors. And i cant post the results of the terminal here it wont let me
[22:18] <TJ-> nightdemon666: have you tried full-screen videos played through, e.g., VLC? It may be related to hardware-accelerated MPEG videos being scaled to full-screen by the GPU driver
[22:18] <capable> jl420: 'mplayer' doesn't have an interface, so I'm not sure what you're talking about
[22:18] <tac-tics> does the EFI boot partition need to be any larger than 35mb?
[22:18] <tac-tics> or should I make it as small as possible?
[22:18] <high_fiver> tac-tics, 100
[22:18] <nightdemon666> TJ- not on vlc, but i play full screen videos with no error on totem.
[22:18] <tac-tics> 100mb?
[22:19] <tac-tics> ok
[22:19] <high_fiver> tac-tics, max
[22:19] <capable> isn't it 100 min?
[22:19] <Beldar> bobptz, disks is an app
[22:19] <bobptz> capable, what will this do?  do it from safe mode and then reboot
[22:19] <capable> bobptz: it will move a file that you can move right back if you want to
[22:19] <daftykins> tac-tics: 300MB would be worthwhile
[22:20] <high_fiver> on or the other, 100mb is a safe bet
[22:20] <capable> tac-tics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:20] <tac-tics> what is it used for?
[22:20] <jl420> capable o ok i meant when i try to launch it from the tool bar it gives me fatal skin errors. I guess thats why if it doesnt have a graphical interface. But the codes wont launch anything either
[22:20] <capable> all you need is to satisfy EFI, and leave room for a kernel if you want kernels in there
[22:20] <capable> jl420: ah, run the commands I gave from a terminal
[22:20] <TJ-> tac-tics: EFI SP can be as little as 25MB *if* there aren't going to be multiple OSes installed... it only needs enough to store the GRUB shim and bootx64.efi and mokmanager
[22:20] <abraxas__> so does anybody here rice?
[22:21] <capable> tac-tics: just a stupid efi requirement =)
[22:21] <tac-tics> and I should probably allocate maybe a few gigs of swap on my slow HD just in case, right?
[22:21] <Beldar> abraxas__, Ask the actual question, if ubuntu related.
[22:21] <jl420> capable I did run the commands from terminal but i cant seem to paste the rsults here
[22:21] <tac-tics> I have 8GB of physical ram already
[22:21] <capable> tac-tics: shouldn't hurt
[22:21] <bobptz> Beldar, if you suspect the disks, can I just check them from the windows side?
[22:21] <capable> tac-tics: swap is useful for suspend
[22:22] <tac-tics> ahhhh yeah
[22:22] <Beldar> bobptz, There are windows smart checks yes
[22:22] <capable> tac-tics: it doesn't actually sound like you will have any problem replacing your SSD in the theoretical event it expires
[22:22] <TJ-> tac-tics: hibernation requires RAM+"a little bit", e.g. 8.25GB for 8GB RAM should be sufficient
[22:22] <capable> tac-tics: so offloading writes to your HD is mostly a matter of preference/paranoia
[22:22] <bobptz> ok, I can do this
[22:22] <abraxas__> alright, how do I edit the autostart file from Openbox on Ubuntu? I can't seem to find it
[22:23] <bobptz> Beldar, I thought you guys can look at me dmesg and pinpoint the problem
[22:23] <bobptz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[22:23] <Isvara> Hi. I'm trying to install a beta ATI driver on 14.04 64-bit. The installer built the packages, but this is the error I get when it tries to install them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7965036/
[22:23] <capable> abraxas__: that's in man openbox
[22:23] <ramkamx> hello
[22:23] <Ace2Race> any dvd player apps for my trusty tahr ?
[22:23] <capable> hi ram
[22:23] <abraxas__> capable, what does that mean?
[22:23] <capable> Ace2Race: gnome-mplayer, vlc
[22:23] <Ace2Race> thanks
[22:23] <Footy> hi
[22:23] <capable> abraxas__: if you run 'man openbox', then type '/autostart', you will get your answer
[22:24] <bekks> Ace2Race: kaffeine, mplayer.
[22:24] <capable> Footy: hi
[22:24] <tac-tics> thanks guys
[22:24] <tac-tics> You've been awesome
[22:24] <capable> tac-tics: no u
[22:24] <capable> =P
[22:24] <tac-tics> wish me luck :X
[22:24] <coolstar> wow, supertuxkart's story mode is really good
[22:24] <capable> me: g'luck
[22:25] <Ace2Race> #minecraft
[22:25] <abraxas__> capable, I typed in man openbox on the terminal and was taken to the documentation/faq
[22:26] <abraxas__> do i type '/autostart' from there?
[22:27] <capable> abraxas__: yes
[22:27] <capable> abraxas__: 'n' for next result
[22:27] <capable> 'N' for previous, 'q' to exit
[22:28] <capable> it will be the first result, though =)
[22:28] <TeMPOraL> guys, quick question - does anyone know if some recent update or sth. messed up with AltGR key?
[22:28] <TeMPOraL> it suddenly stopped working on the second machine for me now
[22:28] <TeMPOraL> right after reboot
[22:29] <capable> TeMPOraL: check what keyboard layout you're using
[22:29] <jl420> capable is that all the information u have for me?
[22:29] <abraxas__> capable, when I type "/autorun" in the documentation that comes up from "man openbox", it says pattern not recognized
[22:29] <capable> jl420: until you tell me you ran what I asked for...
[22:29] <TeMPOraL> capable: didn't change anything; now it shows "Level3 S...", I don't remember what it showed before reboot
[22:30] <capable> cap3lla: why did you type autorun if you asked about autostart?
[22:30] <capable> cap3lla: whoops
[22:30] <capable> abraxas__: why did you type autorun if you asked about autostart?
[22:31] <capable> TeMPOraL: setxkbmap -query | grep layout
[22:31] <jl420> capable i ran the exact commands u asked for.
[22:31] <capable> jl420: what happened?
[22:31] <jl420> heres the results.....joe@joe-Laptop:~$ sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/dvd dvd:// [sudo] password for joe:  MPlayer 1.1-4.8 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.  Playing dvd://. libdvdread: Can't stat /dev/dvd No such file or directory libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd Couldn't open DVD device: /d
[22:31] <capable> jl420: did you try /dev/sr0 ?
[22:32] <jl420> capable yes with the same results
[22:32] <TeMPOraL> capable: lol, got us
[22:32] <capable> TeMPOraL: so that's probably not the layout you want
[22:32] <abraxas__> lol so I don't have an autostart.xml file in my .config folder, can I just make one?
[22:32] <TeMPOraL> capable: thanks, fixed by setxkbmap -layout pl
[22:32] <TeMPOraL> capable: thank you very much :)
[22:33] <capable> np
[22:33] <TeMPOraL> ąœśę©ąßęß←ə↓…
[22:33] <TeMPOraL> yay, it's working
[22:33] <TeMPOraL> ;)
[22:33] <capable> yay, words.pl!
[22:33] <capable> well "words"
[22:33] <Beldar> Isvara, Looks like you need to remove any fglrx now there, beyond that any drivers not in the ubuntu repos are technically not supported here, unless you get help.
[22:33] <TeMPOraL> :D
[22:33] <jl420> capable any suggestions? lol
[22:33] <capable> jl420: try this: dmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer'
[22:35] <jl420> capable will do
[22:36] <jl420> joe@joe-Laptop:~$ dmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer' [    2.188533] ata2.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N, B101, max UDMA/33 [    2.201698] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HL-DT-ST CDRW/DVD GCC4244 B101 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [    2.203726] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray [    2.203733] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[22:36] <jl420> capable i posted the results of that
[22:37] <jl420> capable: joe@joe-Laptop:~$ dmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer' [    2.188533] ata2.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N, B101, max UDMA/33 [    2.201698] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HL-DT-ST CDRW/DVD GCC4244 B101 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [    2.203726] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray [    2.203733] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[22:38] <jl420> capable any ideas?
[22:38] <capable> jl420: does 'sudo apt-get install eject; sudo eject /dev/sr0' do anything?
[22:40] <jl420> capable yes it ejected my drive... Did u want to see the terminal results?
[22:41] <jl420> capable?
[22:42] <bobptz> Beldar, I run smart test.  I do not understand the numbers, but the general result is that the disk is GOOD.
[22:42] <bobptz> Beldar, any particular reading you want?
[22:42] <capable> jl420: it ejected the drive you want to work?
[22:42] <bekks> bobptz: The numbers may still indicate that the drive is going to die very soon.
[22:42] <jl420> capable yes it did
[22:43] <capable> bobptz: nobody understands smart data, which is just as well as it's useless
[22:43] <capable> jl420: okay, then /dev/sr0 is your dvd drive
[22:43] <bobptz> Beldar, what number should I look at?
[22:43] <jl420> capable ok so now that i know that where do i go
[22:43] <capable> jl420: you have a store-bought DVD video disc in there?
[22:44] <bekks> capable: If you dont, dont assume other dont understand them, too ;)
[22:44] <bekks> *others
[22:44] <jl420> capable yes its a store bought movie
[22:44] <capable> bekks: okay, if I don't I won't
[22:45] <capable> jl420: have you seen it work before in any player?
[22:46] <jl420> capable I just installed ubuntu about 2 weeks ago just thought i should add that. Yes I have tried many different discs and i can put them in my computer running windows 7 and they play
[22:47] <capable> jl420: okay, pick one you're sure plays
[22:47] <capable> jl420: then please run this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd://
[22:47] <capable> jl420: excuse me
[22:47] <capable> jl420: then please run _this_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd:// 2>&1 | pastebinit
[22:48] <OerHeks> jl420, even with dvdread, not all dvd's will play https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting
[22:48] <TJ-> jl420: In a terminal runing "vlc dvd://" do you see any warnings or errors, including about missing libraries?
[22:48] <jl420> capable do i run that all together or is it 2 different commands?
[22:48] <capable> jl420: altogether is fine
[22:49] <jl420> capable k one sec
[22:49] <TJ-> jl420: You may still not have installed libdvdcss, via libdvdread4, which includes the installer script to run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[22:50] <jl420> capable results :joe@joe-Laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd:// 2>&1 | pastebinit Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libsdl-image1.2 libtar0 libva-x11-1 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-xv0   vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remo
[22:51] <capable> jl420: did you get a URI?
[22:52] <jl420> capable sorry whats a URI
[22:53] <capable> jl420: a website address
[22:53] <jl420> capable no i didnt just what i pasted here from the terminal
[22:53] <agliodbs> in 12.04, is there any good way to disable an installed upstart service?  What I'm seing on the web is to rite a file called "servicename.overrride", which seems hackish
[22:54] <capable> jl420: what does 'which pastebinit' say?
[22:54] <usr13> agliodbs: Yes
[22:55] <jl420> capable is that a command?
[22:55] <agliodbs> usr13: what is it?  "service" doesn't have a disable option ...
[22:55] <capable> jl420: yup
[22:55] <jl420> capable k running
[22:56] <jl420> capable results:joe@joe-Laptop:~$ which pastebinit /usr/bin/pastebinit
[22:57] <usr13> agliodbs: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/update-rc.d.8.html
[22:57] <capable> jl420: okay, please run this: sudo mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0 dvd:// 2>&1 | pastebinit
[22:57] <capable> jl420: you should get a web address back
[22:57] <jl420> capable ok running
[22:58] <capable> oh, maybe sudo nonsense... <sigh>
[22:59] <jl420> capable i received a URL back http://paste.ubuntu.com/7965252/
[23:00] <usr13> agliodbs: sudo /etc/init.d/name-here status #But you can use service:  sudo service <name-here> stop or start or restart etc...
[23:00] <jl420> capable is there anything else i should try
[23:00] <usr13> agliodbs: (... to temporarily start of stop a service.)
[23:01] <usr13> agliodbs: (... for that session only.)
[23:01] <agliodbs> usr13: yeah, not what I asked, but thanks
[23:01] <usr13> agliodbs: What did you ask?
[23:01] <jl420> capable ive been trying to fix this for the last week and i just dont know what else to try
[23:01] <agliodbs> usr13: enable or disable.  like on startup
[23:02] <usr13> agliodbs: Ok then. Use update-rc.d
[23:02] <capable> jl420: you said you ran through all the info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?
[23:02] <bobptz> ok guys, I run 2 smart disk utilities and the disk looks healthy
[23:02] <OerHeks> jl420, does an other dvd play?
[23:02] <capable> bobptz: what made you think it's not healthy
[23:02] <cristian_> alguien de Chile???
[23:02] <Keltere> hi all, excuse me but i can't have sound from my audio card (Sound blaster Z), can someone help me?
[23:02] <bobptz> Bekk asked me to check them
[23:02] <jl420> capable yes i did a couple of times
[23:03] <agliodbs> usr13: I thougth that didn't work for upstart-enabled services?
[23:03] <bobptz> sorry, Beldar
[23:03] <bobptz> capable, the laptop is 1 year old anyway
[23:03] <usr13> agliodbs: It does.  You can also just remove the executable bit on the script, (not symlink but the actual script), but it is better to use update-rc.d
[23:03] <bobptz> capable, can you look at my dmesg output?    http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[23:04] <agliodbs> usr13: thanks, that's what I wanted to know
[23:04] <TJ-> jl420: Can you "sudo apt-get install regionset" and then tell us what "regionset /dev/sr0" reports? It's possible the region-code of the drive and the disk are different... its something to check anyhow
[23:04] <bobptz> it shoud be some driver that prevents booting
[23:05] <capable> bobptz: what's the problem?
[23:05] <Ryezza> evening all (localize accordingly :).  Having an issue getting Ubuntu up and running on a new rig, would really appreciate any suggestions that I can get
[23:05] <bobptz> capable, it does not boot.  it gives error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes"
[23:05] <capable> jl420: you might reboot and go into your BIOS config, and look for any preferences for sata modes
[23:05] <Ryezza> don't wanna randomize the current discussion, let me know when it's a good time
[23:06] <capable> bobptz: well if it gives an error, it's booting
[23:06] <capable> bobptz: are you the guy I told to mv ~/.Xauthority? Did you?
[23:06] <jl420> TJ ill try that now but no dvds are working. Ill paste results in 1 sec
[23:06] <capable> Ryezza: just go
[23:06] <bobptz> capable, yes
[23:06] <capable> bobptz: no change?
[23:06] <bobptz> capable, sorry, I did not do it.
[23:06] <capable> bobptz: how about you do that
[23:06] <bobptz> I have to reboot windows to do this
[23:07] <bobptz> ok, then I need to leave
[23:07] <Keltere> I don't get any sound from my sound card Sound Blaster Z can someone help me?
[23:07] <capable> bobptz: we'll still be here when you get back
[23:07] <aliteralmind> I'm on a Windows machine, using Ubuntu for the first time on Digital Ocean (newbie in both). The only way I know to shell into it is with Putty. Any recommendations on alternatives, or is Putty pretty much it?
[23:07] <bobptz> capable, how will the system work without the X fles?
[23:07] <Ryezza> k.  Trying to install Ubuntu from DVD on a new machine with an ASUS z97 + GTX 770. After I select "Install Ubuntu" I get a blinking cursor then a black screen
[23:07] <capable> aliteralmind: in Unixland, you simply run 'ssh user@host'
[23:08] <Ryezza> I had posted a bit more info here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507226/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-black-screen-w-gtx-770/507294#507294
[23:08] <capable> aliteralmind: what OS are you using?
[23:08] <capable> bobptz: it isn't working now
[23:08] <Ryezza> I've tried the suggestions and searched around like crazy, but I don't have any promising leads atm
[23:08] <capable> bobptz: mv ~/.Xauthority ~/oldxauthority
[23:08] <aliteralmind> Windows 7 32bit
[23:08] <bobptz> capable, well what do we expect to see if I move the files?
[23:08] <capable> bobptz: if it doesn't work you can always mv ~/oldxauthority ~/.Xauthority
[23:08] <capable> bobptz: a change, or no change
[23:09] <capable> in how it "boots"
[23:09] <bobptz> ok, I see
[23:09] <aliteralmind> capable Windows 7 32 bit
[23:09] <capable> Ryezza: /query ubottu nomodeset
[23:09] <jl420> TJ results: joe@joe-Laptop:~$ regionset /dev/sr0 regionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives Current Region Code settings: RPC Phase: II type: NONE vendor resets available: 4 user controlled changes resets available: 5 drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF  Would you like to change the region setting of your drive? [y/n]:
[23:09] <capable> aliteralmind: okay, putty is easily the most popular ssh client for Windows
[23:09] <capable> aliteralmind: if you don't like it, though, I'm sure we can find you another one you might
[23:10] <jl420> TJ what should I do NOw
[23:10] <capable> aliteralmind: if it's running a VNC server and has a GUI, you could use a VNC client like tigervnc's, too
[23:10] <TJ-> jl420: There's your problem! The drive doesn't have a region code set
[23:11] <Ryezza> @capable you mean add that to the install command? or run it from somewhere? I'm admittedly a Linux nub
[23:11] <jl420> TJ Ok so how do I set the region code?
[23:11] <TJ-> jl420: To confirm that was the cause of your playback issues please do "grep 'Media region code is mismatched' /var/log/dmesg" ... if you get output that confirms this is the problem
[23:12] <capable> Ryezza: send it in your IRC client, as a message
[23:12] <capable> Ryezza: /query ubottu nomodeset
[23:12] <terry> need help getting wifi working  ...Dell inspiron 1721..fresh install of Ubuntu  14.04  -----some drivers did not load I think.....but need the wifi    any help would be appreciated.
[23:12] <jl420> TJ but do i hit yes or no on the terminal from the last thing we did?
[23:13] <TJ-> jl420: Press "no" for no right now
[23:13] <TJ-> jl420: Press "no" for no :p
[23:13] <aliteralmind> How do I determine if  it's running a VNC client?
[23:13] <TJ-> jl420: Press "n" for no even!
[23:13] <aliteralmind> capable
[23:13] <jl420> TJ ok lol
[23:13] <Ryezza> I've actually read through that linked page.  I tried nomodeset, same result.  Also tried noveau.blacklist=1 and some other recommended parameters without any luck
[23:13] <TJ-> jl420: My fingers and my brain are not communicating :p
[23:13] <aliteralmind> capable How do I determine if  it's running a VNC client?
[23:14] <capable> aliteralmind: mmmm, 'pgrep -l vnc' would probably report something
[23:14] <capable> aliteralmind: vnc host =)
[23:14] <capable> Ryezza: what was your link again?
[23:14] <Ryezza> http://askubuntu.com/questions/507226/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-black-screen-w-gtx-770
[23:15] <aliteralmind> capable Nothing. No results. I could install something I guess. Gotta read up on it.
[23:15] <capable> aliteralmind: right, but that's only if the system has X or a GUI, or could have, and you even want it
[23:15] <capable> aliteralmind: 'which X'
[23:16] <aliteralmind> capable I don't know what that means.
[23:16] <jl420> TJ results : nothing happens at all
[23:16] <capable> Ryezza: you're tyson?
[23:16] <Ryezza> correct
[23:16] <capable> aliteralmind: just a command
[23:16] <capable> Ryezza: did you try the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[23:16] <TJ-> jl420: Hmmm, that could mean the region code doesn't need changing. I don't want to have you set a region code and use up one of the 5 changes the drive will allow, if it is not necessary
[23:17] <Ryezza> I'm not really sure how to do that during startup.  I know how to sudo install them, but I'm not sure what's available to me when booting off the LiveCD to install
[23:17] <TJ-> jl420: Can you do "tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit" and tell me the URL it provides?
[23:17] <TJ-> Ryezza: I think the GTX770 needs the nvidia version 340 drivers
[23:18] <nightdemon666> Give up on me TJ-? Lol
[23:18] <capable> Ryezza: you can't get the system to a working prompt?
[23:19] <jl420> TJ I see so what do u think my best bet is now?
[23:19] <skypce> i have a problem
[23:19] <Ryezza> @TJ how would I install those drivers before I launch startup when booting off the Live CD?
[23:19] <skypce> i am trying to use git-pbuilder
[23:19] <TJ-> jl420: show me the output I just asked for, let me examine it
[23:19] <skypce> and this is the return error:E: Failed getting release file http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/sid/Release
[23:20] <TJ-> Ryezza: You don't... at the installer boot menu there's an option to change boot options, one is to add "nomodeset" to the kernel command-line. That *ought* to prevent the black screen issue
[23:20] <TJ-> skypce: Because you're trying to get the Debian sid archive files from the Ubuntu repos?
[23:20] <skypce> yes :S
[23:21] <Ryezza> tried that... pushed F6 + checked the modeset box.  It looks like the resolution changes and I get a blinking cursor in teh top left, then I get a black screen forever
[23:21] <skypce> how can i fix it?
[23:21] <TJ-> skypce: That's never going to work, now is it?! They are only available from the Debian servers
[23:21] <skypce> ok thank you TJ
[23:21] <TJ-> Ryezza: Darn! Never simple
[23:21] <skypce> ok thank you TJ-
[23:21] <Ryezza> ain't that the truth :)
[23:21] <TJ-> skypce: "man pbuilder" and look the option to pass a the archive URL prefix
[23:22] <skypce> ok TJ- thank you
[23:22] <TJ-> Ryezza: In theory, I'm guessing the open source Nouveau driver will be used initially, but I can't be sure and as you can't see...!
[23:23] <bobptz> capable, it did not work
[23:23] <capable> bobptz: k
[23:23] <Ryezza> someone had suggested adding nouveau.blacklist=1 and I tried that as well, but got the same result
[23:24] <TJ-> bobptz: Have you tried adding "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel's boot command-line, to prevent Upstart kicking off?
[23:24] <skypce> TJ-, great this work for me : DIST=trusty git-pbuilder create
[23:24] <Ryezza> I'm sort of at a loss for what else to try to debug this sucker.  only thought is to buy another super cheap video card, which would kinda suck
[23:24] <TJ-> skypce: I wrote a set of scripts and backing article for pbuilder, here it is in case it helps: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/Packages/CreatingPbuilderVariations
[23:24] <capable> Ryezza: you know how to get to the grub boot menu?
[23:24] <bobptz> sorry, no, i do not know these options
[23:25] <Ryezza> not from the LiveCD, only once I've installed Ubuntu
[23:25] <TJ-> bobptz: Try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[23:25] <skypce> TJ-, this is great for packaging for other versions of ubuntu, very thank you
[23:26] <bobptz> have you guys seen my dmesg?
[23:26] <nightdemon666> I'll be back...
[23:26] <TJ-> skypce: The ~/.pbuilderrc may need updating to add newer release codenames into the case statements, such as for Trusty, and moving the release codenames between the main archive and the old-releases URLs
[23:27] <bobptz> tj- yes,i have done this
[23:27] <Ryezza> @capable do you mean install grub to disk and then run it, or get to grub on the cd?
[23:27] <capable> Ryezza: no
[23:27] <TJ-> bobptz: Yes. It doesn't help much. We need you to boot the system into a recovery/shell prompt without Upstart running so you can investigate. If the Recovery also fails, then edit the kernel command-line at the boot menu and replace "recovery" with "init=/bin/bash"
[23:27] <capable> Ryezza: reboot, hold down SHIFT, you should see a GRUB boot list, read the bottom to edit it
[23:28] <capable> Ryezza: oh bah, grub2, nevermind it'll be too confusing
[23:28] <capable> Ryezza: boot your live OS, mount your installed system, chroot into it, and install the proprietary driver
[23:28] <capable> Ryezza: or if you can boot to a system without X from holding down SHIFT, that'll do, too
[23:29] <TJ-> Ryezza: are you booting the installer on a UEFI or BIOS system?
[23:29] <Ryezza> I believe it's UEFI, although I've already followed all the steps to disable Safe Boot etc
[23:29] <bobptz> tj- thank you. too late, need to sleep. will contact tomorrow
[23:30] <jl420> TJ so am i pretty much screwed
[23:30] <tac-tics> In the default desktop, how do you disable ALT from bringing up the search menu?
[23:30] <jl420> TJ there was no output
[23:31] <jl420> TJ could u give me the command ill try it again please
[23:31] <TJ-> jl420: You mean the kern.log file was empty? "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[23:31] <nightdemon666> usr13, you give up on me too?
[23:32] <jl420> TJ one sec ill try that again
[23:32] <Ryezza> I didn't know what UEFI was until a couple hours ago. :)  The settings on the ASUS utility say "UEFI BIOS Utility"
[23:33] <jl420> TJ that command just gave me a URL
[23:33] <nightdemon666> TJ- no more help from you? remember firefox crashing on full screen youtube videos...
[23:33] <nightdemon666> i know youre busy :-/
[23:33] <Ryezza> can you clarify what you mean by "live OS" and "installed system"?  The only OS that I have installed is Windows on another drive ATM, don't have a working Linux install
[23:33] <TJ-> jl420: I know... tell us what it is
[23:34] <jl420> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7965430/
[23:34] <TJ-> nightdemon666: I made some suggestions, but its not something that is easy to figure out unless you run the process under gdb
[23:34] <TJ-> jl420: thanks
[23:35] <TJ-> jl420: It is as I suggested earlier ... the drive or the disk are broke, the log is full of disk read errors
[23:36] <morsing_> I am trying to get the latest graphics drivers, and have added the pre-released updates to my system and update my repository to the latest version. But i can't find any additional drivers, in the "about this computer" tab it says my graphics are running  Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770. Is this the best available?
[23:36] <jl420> TJ but vlc gives me the same error when i try to stream a url or open a movie file
[23:36] <skypce> guys
[23:36] <TJ-> *always* go to the system logs *first*, rather than messing about with random commands without evidence of the cause of the problem
[23:36] <skypce> where is this packagge?
[23:36] <skypce> Package cowdancer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:36] <skypce> other package contain it
[23:36] <TJ-> jl420: That is something different; the logs show the disk is unreadable for whatever reason
[23:37] <nightdemon666> TJ-, understood... i have run under debug, and there were two messages i identifed. one mostly was about firefox looking to provide accerlerated video via VDPAU, and I managed to make that message go away (although now i get different messages), but i do know that i am at least geting accelerated video rendering, just not accelerated video decoding. but i did see only one time so far where pulse audio failed :-/
[23:37] <adymitruk> when my local network and the network that I'm VPNed to both have addresses that start with 192.168, how do I point traffic that's meant for specific addresses (say all that start with 192.168.68) in the VPNed network to be routed and all others not go there?
[23:37] <adymitruk> I know I have to put something in for the routing in the VPN settings, but what?
[23:37] <TJ-> skypce: "apt-cache show cowdancer | grep Section"
[23:38] <jl420> TJ thats why im confused. Why is it the same unable to open mrl when i try to stream or open files
[23:38] <jl420> error*
[23:38] <TJ-> jl420: I don't know.
[23:38] <daftykins> adymitruk: you need to configure your VPN connection not to change the default gateway
[23:38] <TJ-> jl420: Are you providing the incorrect URL format to vlc?
[23:38] <aliteralmind> Thanks for the tips capable.
[23:39] <Ryezza> TJ: were you asking about UEFI because of the Safe Boot stuff?
[23:40] <nightdemon666> TJ- as far as im concerned, firefox is failing and i'd like to use it due to the features of no script. i have NOT found anything that competes, so i'd like to keep my firefox browser as defacto browser for the system. FYI, the system is being dedicated to being used as a media center server. I would like to provide users with ZERO crash records in firefox.
[23:40] <TJ-> Ryezza: No, entirely different reason: The installer ISO uses GRUB for the UEFI boot loader, but isolinux (i think) for the Legacy BIOS  boot
[23:40] <jl420> TJ no i dont think so I just follow the instructions vlc gives
[23:41] <adymitruk> daftykins: how do I do that? ssh -vvvv says "no route to host"
[23:41] <TJ-> nightdemon666: I'm afraid I can't help you much on that; accelerated video issues need a lot of hands-on to debug most times
[23:41] <Ryezza> TJ: got it.  I saw the GRUB boot menu once, I believe before I tinkered with the UEFI/BIOS settings and disabled Safe Boot, among other things
[23:42] <TJ-> jl420: OK ... that is the only thing I could think of that the 2 situations may have in common
[23:42] <daftykins> adymitruk: consult the documentation of the software you're using to establish the VPN
[23:42] <TJ-> Ryezza: Yeah, that's it... with UEFI you've got to manually edit the boot menu to add options, in Legacy mode you get the nice language chooser and F6 advanced options chooser
[23:42] <adymitruk> I'm just using the build in ubuntu VPN client
[23:43] <adymitruk> networking add vpn
[23:43] <adymitruk> works from my android phone
[23:43] <adymitruk> doesn't from ubuntu laptop
[23:43] <TJ-> adymitruk: which type, OpenVPN?
[23:43] <adymitruk> same networks
[23:43] <jl420> Does anybody else on here have a solution to the problem: I cannot playback video using vlc....I get an unable to open MRL error whether its a dvd or a URL or a file??????
[23:43] <TJ-> jl420: give me a streaming URL that fails, let me test it from here
[23:43] <nightdemon666> TJ-, to be more helpful on being informative, the issue with firefox crashing on full screen youtube videos has been a bug to squash before i established accelerated video, however, intel ecellerated video has been become an added plus... can you point me to some one who would be better capable of providing me help on the issue?
[23:44] <jl420> TJ ok one sec
[23:44] <adymitruk> TJ-: I'm not sure
[23:44] <TJ-> nightdemon666: I've not seen anyone particularly specialising in that. My first port of call would be to trawl bug reports in launchpad for similarities and hope there are workarounds/clues/solutions noted
[23:44] <Isvara> I'm almost ready to throw out my graphics cards and get an nVidia one just because installing an ATI driver is so utterly hopeless.
[23:45] <Ryezza> TJ: theres a difference in behavior with nomodeset. If I don't F6 + check that box the resolution changes to a small blinking cursor and then I get a black screen, with nomodeset it's same resolution blinking cursor forever
[23:46] <nightdemon666> TJ- i have been scraping the internets quite a bit for any clues, but nothing on spot. unfortunately this is a rare bug in my case alone. problem is, im running the software on a macmini! not many people who have the same hardware to rant bugs with :-(
[23:46] <TJ-> nightdemon666: hardware failure of some sort?
[23:47] <TJ-> nightdemon666: overheating possibly?
[23:47] <coolstar> is there any good streaming software for linux?
[23:47] <coolstar> I want to stream my desktop on Twitch
[23:48] <TJ-> Ryezza: Hmmm! long shot, but have you tried manually editing the command line (before the "--" and removing any "quiet splash", add in "nomodeset" if it isn't there already, and also add "text", to see if the kernel will start in text mode
[23:48] <Ryezza> haven't tried, will give that a shot now
[23:49] <nightdemon666> TJ- i analyze the cpu performance on a separate computer logged in via ssh to watch the cpu. i dont think there is an 'htop' or gnome-system-monitor equivilant for GPU... or is there???
[23:49] <TJ-> Ryezza: alternatively, stick an old video card in there to install, install the nvidia-340 drivers from the xorg-edgers PPA, then swap the GTX770 back in :)
[23:49] <nightdemon666> TJ- i dont see excessive CPU activity to warrant over heating. also the computer doesnt shutdown randomly on its own when worked
[23:49] <Ryezza> unfortunately my wife just chucked all my old gear, so I'm old-video-cardless :)
[23:50] <TJ-> nightdemon666: some GPUs allow access to the temperatures, but it depends on which one. Nvidia's is only available via its nvidia-settings so far as I know
[23:50] <TJ-> Ryezza: Borrow one from another PC for 1/2 hour?
[23:50] <quantibility> is there ANY way to reset the xfce bar to orginal stock?
[23:50] <quantibility> im having a problem with missing window buttons
[23:51] <nightdemon666> TJ- since this is an intel GPU, i dont seem to have that capibility, but again, i was having these issues before i installed VDPAU drivers to get hardware accerlation  working so i cant pin the fail to GPU
[23:51] <Ryezza> TJ: I'm thinking of buying one from Best Buy or somewhere and returning it :).  nomodeset + text is doing something tho
[23:52] <TJ-> nightdemon666: maybe it's a case of video RAM choking? I've seen that happen with cards with 256 or even 512MB or VRAM when there's a lot of compositing also going on
[23:52] <TJ-> Ryezza: ooooo really? I hope it is the correct thing!
[23:52] <nightdemon666> TJ- i was inspired to install VDPAU support due to messages i saw in the debug mode of firefox. im glad i did now that i get *some* hardware acceleration, but i still get the same fail with or without
[23:54] <Ryezza> TJ: last command that showed was "status: {DRDY}" .../n "hard resetting link"
[23:54] <TJ-> nightdemon666: when full-screen is the video the same resolution as the display, or is the display having to scale the video? I wonder if it might work with a video that is the same native resolution as the display
[23:54] <Ryezza> sitting there now
[23:54] <jl420> TJ sorry for the delay heres a link that wont work.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pB-5XG-DbAA
[23:54] <nightdemon666> TJ- in other words, i feel im going the wrong direction to point to gpu. since the fail was evident before the gpu was assisting with video rendering. i believe its a software fail, not a hardware fail, but keeping my mind open on hardware, just not the gpu considering the failure before gpu usefull drivers were installed.
[23:54] <TJ-> Ryezza: Hmmm, Drive Ready ... that suggests a disk failure
[23:55] <TJ-> Ryezza: did you connect the drive(s) correctly ?
[23:55] <Ryezza> TJ: yeah, there's just one SATA SSD hooked up atm.  But this is when running the "Run Ubuntu from CD" option with nomodeset text
[23:56] <TJ-> nightdemon666: my point about scaling is, if it needs to do that, it may need double VRAM for the before and after buffers
[23:56] <nightdemon666> TJ- I have a 40 in flat panel lcd screen tv as the video output. signals are running VGA.
[23:56] <TJ-> Ryezza: Yes, but when the kernel starts, if you see that message, it is whilst the kernel is interrogating the hardware... as a test, try disconnecting that drive and see if the installer gets further
[23:56] <Ryezza> k
[23:57] <Ryezza> TJ: really appreciate the help on this btw
[23:58] <TJ-> nightdemon666: what pixel resolution though? If, for example, the video you're playing is 1080p and the screen were 720p, or the video is 720p and the screen 1080p, then scaling is needed. I'm wondering if you can ensure a 1:1 mapping to rule out scaling as a possible cause
[23:58] <nightdemon666> TJ- i was not having this issue wihen using acer aspire one netbook as the media center. although video output sucked in youtube via firefox and fullscreen, it did not fail in the case that it is failing now with mac mini. issues with aspire one were just not enough cpu power to render video smoothly. in the case of mac mini i have the power, just get the failures in fullscreen youtube videos only :-/
[23:59] <jl420> TJ did u try that URL i gave u