[02:42] <invercap> alguien a installado ubuntu a nokia 520
[02:45] <Beldar> English
[02:47] <invercap> I want to install on nokia 520
[02:51] <Chipaca> invercap: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/234000
[02:51] <Beldar> invercap, The channel header has a links to confirmed devices that are working.
[02:53] <Beldar> ah the windows phone
[03:02] <mojtaba_> Hi, Does anybody know when the ubuntu phone will come out?
[03:17] <Beldar> mojtaba_, Not sure of any clear date, last I heard were a need for another phone provider to buy into the ideas and some showing interest.
[03:18] <Beldar> kind of a problem needing a large cost start with a very small user base so if we see it I will be surprised to be honest.
[03:25] <mojtaba_> Beldar: But it is better than android with no security! Why it has small amount of users?
[03:27] <Chipaca> mojtaba_: because there aren't any phones yet
[03:29] <plipfishy> mojtaba_
[03:29] <plipfishy> I have it on my phone
[03:29] <plipfishy> it's ok, but you have to modify a lot of the code to make it a semi-decent daily driver
[03:29] <plipfishy> er
[03:30] <plipfishy> I'm tired, sorry, I saw your question and replied to it with one from another chan
[03:30]  * plipfishy goes back to sleep
[03:35] <Beldar> mojtaba_, Linux is not plug and go and is has more of a server base, combined with the market being controlled by other OS, and people not wanting to change are some factors. Safer is a user issue all OS have their weaknesses.
[03:36] <Beldar> just having users having a password needed for root is a safety factor the dominate OS has realized with a click in their root accounts to confirm use at least.
[03:38] <Beldar> A standard account in MS knocks out roughly 90% of the danger
[03:38] <Beldar> yo bad the user are not informed is all
[03:39] <Beldar> To*
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> whats the story of the rtm branch?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> you guys gonna drop devel?
[05:25] <Mirv> Saviq: will file-based infographics be before rtm?
[05:28] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: rtm is just for rtm.  Has nothing to do with devel.
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: ok tnx
[07:06] <mpt> Chipaca, lovely indeed, as I predicted
[07:07] <mpt> Oh, wait, that’s the Dash, not System Settings, and it’s already three items per row
[07:08] <mpt> That’s just poor layout generally … Notice how the Dash icons are closer to the screen edges than they are to each other
[07:15] <dholbach> good morning
[07:29] <mardy> Saviq, greyback: hi! Do you have a minute to chat about bug 1352251?
[07:31] <greyback> mardy: sure
[07:35] <dholbach> can somebody please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~filip-sohajek/ubuntu/utopic/dialer-app/fix-for-1361609/+merge/229565?
[07:37] <mardy> greyback: so, I added a new comment there: I think that no matter how I refactor things, we'll still need to have that splash screen removed
[07:40] <greyback> mardy: sure. I replied, I mostly need steps to repro
[07:41] <greyback> mardy: ultimately only "real" applications will get that splash screen, trust helpers/sessions will not
[07:41] <dholbach> Mirv, I guess https://code.launchpad.net/~filip-sohajek/ubuntu/utopic/dialer-app/fix-for-1361609/+merge/229565 should be resubmitted against lp:dialer-app instead?
[07:42] <mardy> greyback: ah, OK, that's good then!
[07:43] <greyback> mardy: but that does create the problem, if a trust helper takes 2 seconds to launch & draw a frame, what do we show the user in the mean time?
[07:46] <greyback> some sort of splash is nice for that eventuality, but now shell has no idea if that trust helper will actually create a surface to draw to or not
[08:06] <Mirv> dholbach: indeed
[08:06] <dholbach> Mirv, replied
[08:16] <ogra_> bug #1326200
[08:20] <Chipaca> Laney: thank you for the reviews of the system settings branches. Can I ask you for another one on https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571 ?
[08:23] <Saviq> Mirv, it's rather low prio, but yeah
[08:24] <Mirv> Saviq: just wondering whether you want a silo, currently it'd look good as there's 8 free
[08:25] <Saviq> Mirv, I've other higher prio stuff coming in in silo 1 already
[08:26] <tvoss> ogra_, that bug you just queried has been fixed
[08:27] <Mirv> Saviq: ok!
[08:27] <ogra_> tvoss, i am pondering about the fallout ... since around 160-165 (we cant really nail it to one specific image) we have massive app test failures ... they manifest in apparmor denials when autopilot tries to access the dbus introspection stuff
[08:28] <ogra_> tvoss, i'm wondering if apparmor perhaps expects the same process running throughout all tests or some such
[08:28] <tvoss> ogra_, the fix is unlikely causing it as it only tears down private dbus-daemon instances fired up for testing, not the actual system or session ones
[08:33] <mpt> Chipaca, I also used your screenshot as a basis for reporting bug 1353341
[08:46] <popey> beuno: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/144/download/?version=1.1.251 - "Could not download content from storage"
[09:12] <Saviq> greyback, hey, you alive?
[09:12] <Saviq> greyback, ah you did talk to mardy already
[09:13] <greyback> Saviq: yes
[09:13] <greyback> yep
[09:13] <mhr3> ogra_, bootstrap fixed it, ty
[09:19] <schmilar> Hi
[09:20] <jgdx> Saviq, hey, get to have a chat with ricmm_ re: sensors?
[09:20] <Saviq> jgdx, yeah, didn't get to it yesterday
[09:20] <Saviq> ricmm_, you around?
[09:21] <schmilar> How do I port Ubuntu Touch with only CM-11.0 sources?
[09:22] <schmilar> It seems as if I could either use Cm-10.1
[09:22] <schmilar> or AOSP-4.4
[09:22] <schmilar> but not latest Cyanogenmod
[09:23] <schmilar> Anyone involved with porting and stuff around?
[10:08] <ricmm_> Saviq: hi
[10:12] <Saviq> ricmm, hey, wanted to chat about orientation lock
[10:27] <ricmm> Saviq: ok
[10:27] <ricmm> chat away!
[10:28] <Saviq> ricmm, so, where do you think? it could be close to sensors, so that whenever the lock is on the sensor output doesn't change
[10:28] <Saviq> ricmm, and sensors can be turned off
[10:28] <Saviq> ricmm, or otherwise we need to come up with some interface for $something to tell sensors to go away
[10:38] <ricmm> Saviq: is it too late to centralize the "change orientation" signal in the shell?
[10:38] <ricmm> a dbus signal, or using the Mir private channel
[10:38] <ricmm> its quite straightforward to tell the truth
[10:38] <ricmm> and it will save battery, wakelocks, and be cleaner
[10:39] <Saviq> ricmm, it might be
[10:39] <Saviq> ricmm, there's code, but we're not *actively* pursuing shell rotation for RTM
[10:39] <ricmm> I'm not talking about shell orientation
[10:40] <Saviq> ricmm, you kind of are ;)
[10:40] <Saviq> or well, we're trying to, but not confident we'll get there
[10:40] <ricmm> no, I am not
[10:40] <Saviq> ricmm, I know what you mean, but it's the same from our PoV
[10:40] <Saviq> almost
[10:40] <Saviq> ricmm, I'll schedule a HO for later today, then
[10:40] <ricmm> you are talking about a way for the session to lock apps from reading the orientation
[10:40] <ricmm> which means opening the orientation sensor
[10:41] <Saviq> ricmm, yes, because they currently talk directly to the sensor
[10:41] <ricmm> it could also mean prevent the shell from sending an OrientationChanged signal on dbus
[10:41] <ricmm> com Unity.Screen
[10:41] <Saviq> ricmm, mir channel, rather, we already have it there
[10:41] <Saviq> somewhere
[10:41] <ricmm> ok
[10:41] <ricmm> lets talk about it later then
[10:41] <ricmm> setup a HO for the afternoon?
[10:41] <Saviq> let's
[10:41] <Saviq> willd o
[10:41] <beuno> Mirv, can you try uploading a newer version of sudoku?
[10:42] <Mirv> beuno: I did that 1h ago after popey asked me to
[10:43] <beuno> Mirv, can you try again?  a newer version than 1.1.251
[10:44] <beuno> I'm trying to debug what's going on
[10:45] <Mirv> beuno: ok, I guess I'll need to trigger a new build first
[10:46] <beuno> Mirv, probably. How is this being uploaded?
[10:46] <beuno> using CI and the store APIs?
[11:07] <Mirv> beuno: yeah, using https://code.launchpad.net/click-toolbelt
[11:08] <beuno> Mirv, cool, let me know how it goes, we're watching logs
[11:10] <Mirv> sure. the build is pending on a builder, at least according to jenkins (but only kicked a few minutes ago)
[11:10] <Mirv> right, the same machines are doing a lot of other things, so it looks like it should look.
[11:19] <ricmm> Saviq: could you push it to 16h instead of 1530 ?
[11:20]  * ogra_ could need some QML help 
[11:20] <Saviq> ricmm, done
[11:21] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can you please commit the relevant changes from make qmltypes to v4
[11:21] <tsdgeos> sure
[11:21] <ogra_> i'm adding something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7969530/ to my system-settings code ... but securityType seems to always be undefined ...
[11:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: done
[11:23] <Saviq> tsdgeos, 723	+#include <QDebug> needed?
[11:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i need it all the time
[11:23] <tsdgeos> so let's just have it there
[11:23] <Saviq> k
[11:23] <tsdgeos> and let my productivity increase by not getting an error everytime it fails to compile
[11:24] <Saviq> mhr3, tsdgeos, "bool isAltNavigation" bleh
[11:25] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ?
[11:25] <tsdgeos> don't like the name?
[11:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I hate that it's a bool ;)
[11:25] <tsdgeos> ah
[11:26] <mhr3> Saviq, /me waves hand, it is not that horrible
[11:26] <Saviq> hmm why are we in -touch?
[11:26] <tsdgeos> Saviq: you started :D
[11:26] <mhr3> cause that's where you ping
[11:26]  * Saviq hides
[11:26]  * ogra_ sighs
[11:46] <sergiusens> dpm hey, if I go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+translations I see no missing translations for Spanish, but then I see http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/translations/
[11:46] <sergiusens> is this a bug, but where :-) missing hints?
[11:48] <Mirv> wow, those click building machines are quite queued
[11:50] <sergiusens> Mirv: the jenkins ones?
[11:50] <sergiusens> Mirv: if so, they are shared with all the MP builders iirc
[11:52] <Mirv> sergiusens: yes, I meant the total load since they are shared
[11:52] <dpm> hey sergiusens, let me have a look
[11:52] <Mirv> but complaining helped, it started building after 45 mins wait
[11:54] <Mirv> beuno: popey: 253 sudoku built & uploaded
[11:55] <popey> beuno: Mirv i can download that now, thanks
[11:55] <beuno> popey, Mirv, I'll figure out what happened
[11:56] <dpm> sergiusens, the translations for that don't come from u-s-s-o-a, but from another project. AFAIK, translations enablement just landed a couple of days ago and my guess is that the translations have not yet been included in the .click or .deb package -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-credentials/trunk/+pots/ubuntuone-credentials/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=remove+credentials
[11:57] <sergiusens> dpm: thanks; I started to use a device for the first time in my life in something different than english :-P
[11:57] <dpm> \o/
[11:58] <sergiusens> dpm: dialog is not there though
[11:58] <dpm> sergiusens, if you need to report any bugs, here's a list of known issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bugs?field.tag=touch
[11:58] <dpm> sergiusens, not sure what you mean
[11:59] <sergiusens> dpm: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/translations/translations_spanish_account_removal_dialog.png
[11:59] <sergiusens> dpm: not sure where to translate that :-)
[12:00] <dpm> sergiusens, it's in the link I posted, and the dialog is already translated as far as I can tell: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-credentials/trunk/+pots/ubuntuone-credentials/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=remove+credentials
[12:00] <dpm> you can search for other parts of the dialog, but at least I could find the translations for its title and body
[12:01] <dpm> and the buttons too, so it seems everything is up for translations in the ubuntuone-credentials project
[12:02] <sergiusens> dpm: ah; sorry, didn't see you sent me a queried/filtered link; I see it now from the main view
[12:02] <dpm> cool
[12:02] <sergiusens> :-)
[12:02] <dpm> sergiusens, you can do a search on the web ui too
[12:02] <sergiusens> dpm: wrt to translations, do I need to manually update the pot file or does the whole translation system do that form me?
[12:03] <sergiusens> if I add a new string for example
[12:03] <dpm> sergiusens, if you're a maintainer for a LP project, yes, you need to update the .pot file whenever there are new strings available. All the rest is done automatically for you
[12:04] <sergiusens> dpm: ok, I will do that then :-)
[12:04] <dpm> great
[12:05] <dpm> sergiusens, and if you feel like translating or looking at the status of translation, you can see all languages and click on them to take you to each translatable project in LP: http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic
[12:06]  * sergiusens links that page
[12:08] <sergiusens> dpm: oh wait; one more question, how do we go about translating http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-push-hackers/account-polld/trunk/view/head:/data/account-polld.application ?
[12:09] <sergiusens> or http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-push-hackers/account-polld/trunk/view/head:/data/account-polld.desktop ?
[12:11] <dpm> sergiusens, for the .desktop files, you can look at the branches on bug 1318008, which show how we implemented it in core/system apps
[12:12]  * sergiusens checks
[12:12] <dpm> sergiusens, for the .application files (and probably .service and .providers), I don't quite remember how it's done. I know we have translated files on the desktop for e.g. the Facebook online account and others, perhaps mardy or kenvandine know
[12:12] <bzoltan> dpm:  do you know if updating the time from the cellular network is something what we can expect at some point? I am bored to see the UK time on my phone :)
[12:12] <dpm> I think we might have ended up putting the translations in the XML files, similarly to the .desktop files
[12:13] <dpm> bzoltan, it works for me, but I think I had to set up the timezone in system settings manually
[12:14] <dpm> at least there is a setting too to keep the time automatically
[12:14] <dpm> I'm using that, but I don't know if it requires the timezone to be set manually in addition, or if it's clever enough to detect the timezone
[12:14] <bzoltan> dpm:  so it should be the intro wizard
[12:15] <mardy> dpm: the file can contain a <translations> element which tells with translation domain to use
[12:15] <mardy> dpm: but I'm not sure on whether the current UI honours that (if it doesn't, it's a bug)
[12:15] <dpm> mardy, yes, but I can't quite recall if the translations are inline in the xml file, or put in the .mo files
[12:15] <dpm> I think they go into the .mo files
[12:17] <dpm> mardy, what project contains the Facebook online account for desktop? I might be able to find out from there
[12:28] <mardy> dpm: lp:account-plugins
[12:31] <dpm> thanks mardy
[12:31] <Chipaca> dpm: when you have a moment, could you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571 in particular wrt whether the strings to translate are being correctly extracted? I don't know when that happens, but it doesn't seem to be part of dpkg-buildpackage.
[12:36] <dpm> sergiusens, for the question on how to translate the .application file, I'd think it should be the same as we do in the desktop: i.e. to mark translatable tags with _, then use intltool to extract those translations (same as with the .desktop files), and generate the file from its .in counterpart removing the _ -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~online-accounts/account-plugins/trunk/view/head:/data/providers/google.provider.in.in
[12:37] <sergiusens> dpm: ok, do you know if dh_translations is run after or before dh_install ?
[12:37] <dpm> sergiusens, I don't know, sorry, you'd have to ask pitti or seb128 for that
[12:37] <sergiusens> ok, no worries; I'll figure it out :-)
[12:38] <pitti> sergiusens: very late
[12:38] <pitti> sergiusens: the dh sequence sorts it right before dh_compress
[12:38] <sergiusens> thanks
[12:38] <pitti> sergiusens: i. e. as late as possible
[12:40] <dpm> Chipaca, from a quick glance, it looks good to me (I didn't know about xgettext's --join-existing arg, neat!), but for the packaging bits, I think I'll have to forward you to pitti too
[12:40] <Chipaca> dpm: thanks
[12:40]  * Chipaca looks at pitti
[12:41] <pitti> ?
[12:41] <pitti> (can read scrollback in a bit, lots of brain state ATM)
[12:51] <pitti> Chipaca: well, it's easy enough to check? build the package and look whether the .pot has the strings you expect?
[12:58] <ogra_> mterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ubuntu-system-settings/dev-mode-password-binding/+merge/229780 ...
[13:35] <Chipaca> ah, sorry (got cut off just after poking you). That's my question, if building the package should do it, then it isn't doing it
[13:36] <Chipaca> OTOH if building the package isn't doing it for python it doesn't seem to be doing it for anything. Need to dig more.
[13:42] <beuno> Mirv, we've updated click-toolbelt to error when the upload errors
[13:42] <beuno> who do I talk to about updating it in CI?
[13:46] <ogra_> mterry, i need to also set the stuff in PageComponent.qml to make sure it gets picked up when i browse through the page stack ... doesnt work without
[13:46] <ogra_> (i.e. if the page doesnt get reloaded but i only go back and forth)
[13:48] <mterry> ogra_, I'm not sure I follow.  But regardless, if you have it in PageComponent, you don't need it in DevMode right?  You can just reference the id of the panel from PageComponent, I think...
[13:49] <ogra_> oh
[13:49] <ogra_> i didnt think of that ... yeah, let e try that
[13:50] <ogra_> mterry, hmm, nope, doesnt work
[13:51] <mterry> :-/
[13:51] <mterry> I guess I still don't understand about reloading the page and going back and forth etc
[13:52] <ogra_> hmm
[13:52] <ogra_> but dropping it from PageComponent.qml works now ... not sure why it didnt before
[13:53] <Mirv> beuno: thanks, I've pulled it locally. I don't know where/how it's used by CI, I just use it locally
[13:55] <ogra_> mterry, tested and updated
[13:56] <mterry> ogra_, oh good it worked, will re-review in a bit
[13:56] <ogra_> thanks
[14:00] <ogra_> mterry, oh, one irritating thing i noticed, the input dialog for the lock screen should respect the "keyboard sound" setting
[14:00] <ogra_> it is very irritating if everything else makes a sound but the lock screen doesnt
[14:01] <mterry> ogra_, hmm..  the pin entry?
[14:01] <mterry> ogra_, can you file a bug please and assign to me?
[14:01] <ogra_> yep
[14:01] <ogra_> also one of the "nice to have" category :)
[14:02] <Saviq> ricmm, you there for the hout?
[14:02] <twstddev> Hello guys. I've gone through the contribute page on wiki and sadly could not figure out where to start helping with development. Is it currently no up to date or it's just me?
[14:02] <twstddev> *not up to date
[14:05] <Saviq> ricmm, you're lagging is all
[14:11] <ogra_> twstddev, what do you want to work on ?
[14:11] <kenvandine> woot!  i just enabled notifications for twitter , facebook and gmail in system-settings.... and got a bunch of notifications from the webapps!
[14:12] <ogra_> kenvandine, heh, happy clicking ... i thnk popey got them back til the last decade switch or some such
[14:12] <kenvandine> it was a flood :)
[14:12] <ogra_> yeah
[14:12] <ogra_> but a flood above 1000 gets annoying i fear :)
[14:13] <kenvandine> above 10 is annoying :)
[14:14] <ogra_> kenvandine, once mterry approved https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ubuntu-system-settings/dev-mode-password-binding/+merge/229780  would you land it if you have the next system-settings landiing ? or should i do it myself ?
[14:15] <kenvandine> ogra_, sure, i can land it
[14:15] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, what goodies are queued up?
[14:15] <kenvandine> ogra_, assuming traincon-0 doesn't interfere
[14:15] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i landed a crasher fix and packaging fix this morning
[14:16] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, which crasher?
[14:16] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, reset is probably close to being ready
[14:16] <kenvandine> in the wizard for wifi
[14:16] <twstddev> ogra_, probably some of the apps would be a good start
[14:16] <pmcgowan> ok
[14:16] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, we need to fix the bluetooth code to not call qfatal, that causes a crash in tests
[14:16] <kenvandine> jgdx, in looking at your reset branch, are you sure the strings are using the right case?  sentence case vs. title case?
[14:17] <pmcgowan> and there is this one I cannot figure out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1349326
[14:17] <sergiusens> dpm: can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/account-polld/translations/+merge/229798 please?
[14:18] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, but i think landings will be slowed down until we're out of traincon-0
[14:18] <jgdx> kenvandine, it's taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#A.2BIBw-Reset_Phone.2BIB0-
[14:18] <ogra_> pmcgowan, mandel will look into that ... its a bug
[14:18] <pmcgowan> it sure is
[14:18] <ogra_> (note the bug is assigned)
[14:18] <pmcgowan> ack
[14:19] <kenvandine> jgdx, ok, i can never remember what the rules are for case :)
[14:19] <kenvandine> seb128 always reminds me :-p
[14:19] <ogra_> pmcgowan, and there is a certain device where i cant reproduce it ;)
[14:19] <mandel> pmcgowan, ogra_ I should have looked into it, but location-service has more importance atm, sorry :-/
[14:19] <pmcgowan> ogra_, thats odd too
[14:19] <pmcgowan> ok as long as its queued up
[14:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, what do you know about the generic-mediumtests jobs?
[14:20] <kenvandine> nothing :/
[14:20] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, well i can reproduce that crash
[14:20] <kenvandine> weird
[14:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, seems they are failing due to the same gsettings failure, which is odd because the dep is pinned and installed correctly
[14:21] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you notice some CI runs have passed?
[14:21] <jgdx> kenvandine, for what branch?
[14:21] <jgdx> yeah, tests for armhf, amd64 and i386 all cellular tests seems to pass just fine
[14:22] <kenvandine> i thought i saw one over night, a full CI pass
[14:23] <kenvandine> bugger... maybe it was for something else :)
[14:23] <jgdx> kenvandine, you were dreaming :P
[14:23] <kenvandine> jgdx, i'm am stumped on that failure...
[14:24] <kenvandine> it's clearly blowing up as if that gsettings-qt fix isn't there
[14:26] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, oh i also landed that wider-grid branch, which fixes the wrapping of the notifications label you reported
[14:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/call-fwd-wait-dual-sim btw?
[14:27] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, ack
[14:27] <dpm> sergiusens, done with some inline comments, but in summary +1
[14:28] <kenvandine> jgdx, yes, i'll review it next
[14:29] <jgdx> kenvandine, thanks
[14:34] <sergiusens> dpm: ty
[14:41] <tedg> Is there an easy way to record a screen cast of the nexus 4 ?
[14:42] <mterry> ogra_, that "enabled:" line is still offensive to my qml sensibilities  :)  Why not "enabled: securityPrivacy.securityType !== UbuntuSecurityPrivacyPanel.Swipe"?
[14:43] <ogra_> would that work ?
[14:43]  * ogra_ tries
[14:45] <mterry> ogra_, one liners don't need braces and have an implicit return statement
[14:45] <ogra_> oh, ok
[14:45] <ogra_> yeah, wors fine
[14:45] <ogra_> *works
[14:46]  * ogra_ fixed
[14:46] <ogra_> *fixes
[14:46] <ogra_> sigh
[14:47] <ogra_> mterry, pushed
[14:48] <mterry> ogra_, :)
[15:00] <jdstrand> rsalveti: fyi, re the gallery denials in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964791/, the gallery just needs to use the 'camera' policy group (that allows writes to /dev/video*)
[15:15] <sergiusens> dpm: one more please https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ciborium/translations/+merge/229813 :-)
[15:15] <jdstrand> rsalveti: fyi, the denials in bug #1353139 are not apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu. they are in media-hub and mediascanner2. I've added a comment, and triaged the bug
[15:16] <jdstrand> jhodapp: fyi ^
[15:16] <jdstrand> rsalveti: Satoris isn't around to ping
[15:18] <jhodapp> jdstrand, that's just for manta?
[15:18] <alecu> gatox: balloons is trying to get the u1 id from a qml app
[15:18] <alecu> gatox: balloons that would be the users' email for the u1 account, right?
[15:18] <jdstrand> jhodapp: I doubt it
[15:19] <jdstrand> jhodapp: but that is how the bug came in
[15:19] <balloons> alecu, gatox yes, users email / username is what we'd be after
[15:19] <jhodapp> jdstrand, ok...I did notice that my camera recorded video wouldn't play on 175 this morning
[15:19] <jdstrand> maybe manta uses video4linux and the others don't... not sure
[15:19] <jhodapp> jdstrand, but I assumed I had my media-hub-server in a bad state :)
[15:19] <alecu> gatox: that's what you are doing in pay-ui, right? Where are you getting the user's email from?
[15:19] <jhodapp> jdstrand, that was on nexus 4
[15:20] <jdstrand> jhodapp: did you have denials?
[15:20] <gatox> balloons, alecu you need to use the AccountServiceModel component
[15:20] <jdstrand> (grep DEN /var/log/syslog)
[15:20] <balloons> gatox, yes, you can see my attempt in lp:nskaggs/+junk/feedback; but I'm not a qml dev, so I thought I'd ask
[15:21] <gatox> alecu, balloons and assign that object id to something that supports a model, like a ListView... mardy told me that there are other ways to do it, but nothing else was working for me
[15:21] <alecu> gatox: can you point balloons at a lp url where your code uses this?
[15:21] <balloons> is there a good example somewhere?
[15:21] <jhodapp> jdstrand, yep: Aug  6 10:40:48 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [  164.467175] type=1400 audit(1407336048.823:95): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_mmap" profile="/usr/bin/media-hub-server" name="/tmp/orcexec.h7lwc7" pid=4160 comm="aqueue:src" requested_mask="m" denied_mask="m" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011
[15:22] <alecu> gatox: also, do you think that there might be any issues with apparmor permissions? I expect balloons app to be a simple click package from the store.
[15:22] <jdstrand> jhodapp: you seem to be hitting bug #1350673
[15:23] <jdstrand> jhodapp: I suggest doing: 'sudo rm -f /etc/apparmor.d/cache/* && sudo reboot'
[15:23] <jhodapp> jdstrand, interesting...so if I had done a wipe with ubuntu-device-flash I wouldn't have seen that
[15:23] <gatox> balloons, here is where AccountServiceModel is created http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/pay-ui/first-branch/view/head:/app/payui.qml and assign that to a property in line 318...... and here is being used in the ListView to show the user password http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/pay-ui/first-branch/view/head:/app/ui/DirectPurchase.qml
[15:23] <jdstrand> jhodapp: that will work around it
[15:23] <jhodapp> jdstrand, ok
[15:24] <jdstrand> jhodapp: yes, a reflash should avoid it too
[15:24] <gatox> alecu, AccountServiceModel is part of the sdk, so it should be usable from any app, maybe some particular permission will need to be added to the security templates... we are using unconfined, so we didn't have that problem
[15:25] <gatox> alecu, probably "accounts"
[15:25] <balloons> gatox, thank you for the examples
[15:27] <jhodapp> jdstrand, doesn't seem to have worked around that issue for me
[15:27] <jhodapp> jdstrand, but this one doesn't seem to be apparmor denied, so you might be off the hook ;)
[15:28] <jdstrand> jhodapp: you mean, you no longer have a denial, but you still have the problem?
[15:28] <jhodapp> jdstrand, correct
[15:28] <jdstrand> ok, 'good'
[15:28] <jdstrand> :)
[15:28] <jhodapp> jdstrand, hehe
[15:29] <jdstrand> jhodapp: oh, hello btw :)
[15:29] <jhodapp> jdstrand, who knows what state my media-hub is in though :)
[15:29] <jhodapp> jdstrand, hello!
[15:39] <rsalveti> jdstrand: thanks for properly triaging the bug
[15:41] <jdstrand> rsalveti: np
[16:12] <ogra_> kenvandine, i added line 33 to the spreadsheet, feel free to merge it with some other system-settings landing
[16:12] <ogra_> (oh, and a top approval on the MP would be nice)
[16:17] <kenvandine> ogra_, cool, will do
[16:17] <ogra_> kenvandine, i can take care of it myself too if trhat is more convenient for you though
[16:18] <kenvandine> ogra_, what about traincon-0?
[16:18] <ogra_> means that we need to ping davmor2 or someone else from QA
[16:18] <ogra_> to sign it off
[16:20] <kenvandine> ogra_, mind if we hold off for a bit to see if we get anything else ready to land too?
[16:21] <kenvandine> i'm in the middle of reviewing 2 branches but keep got distracted by bugs :)
[16:21] <ogra_> kenvandine, dunno, pmcgowan seems to expect this to land today
[16:21] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i'd like to try to get the reset branch in the landing too
[16:21]  * ogra_ didnt know about that til he saw teh mail with teh list of system-image changes 
[16:21] <kenvandine> ogra_, pmcgowan was the one that distracted me :-p
[16:22] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, we need all of em
[16:22] <ogra_> ah, ok yeah, then i'm fine if it takes longer
[16:22] <ogra_> that deserves penalty :P
[16:22] <pmcgowan> ok will stop distracting
[16:22]  * ogra_ grins
[16:23] <kenvandine> ogra_, CI failed in your branch :)
[16:23] <ogra_> ugh, how can that be
[16:23] <kenvandine> ha
[16:23] <kenvandine> you're doomed
[16:23] <kenvandine> :-D
[16:24] <kenvandine> jgdx, ^^ the beloved cellular tests and gsettings-qt
[16:24] <kenvandine> ogra_, i won't block your branch on that, it has nothing to do with it
[16:24] <ogra_> kenvandine, yeah, looks like it happened due to the CI outage
[16:25] <kenvandine> ogra_, no... these tests fail reliably now
[16:25] <ogra_> i'll add a space to the commit message or so to trigger a re-run
[16:25] <ogra_> oh, then i'll let it be
[16:25] <kenvandine> it fails because of the old bug in gsettings-qt
[16:25] <ogra_> ok
[16:25] <kenvandine> which is fixed.. and landed
[16:25] <kenvandine> and we can't reproduce it
[16:25] <kenvandine> but CI keeps failing, with the fixed version installed
[16:25] <ogra_> k
[16:25] <kenvandine> if that makes any sense at all
[16:26]  * kenvandine is stumped
[16:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you get any leads?
[16:26] <ogra_> well, did anyone tell fginther ?
[16:26] <ogra_> (or another CI person)
[16:26] <kenvandine> it's a crash from gsettings-qt related to not handling a{ss}
[16:26] <kenvandine> which was added to fix this
[16:27] <kenvandine> the logs clearly show the version with the fix is installed
[16:27] <kenvandine> not sure fginther can help
[16:27] <kenvandine> then again... i am stumped :)
[16:27] <kenvandine> at least it blows up reliably
[16:33] <dpm> sergiusens, done. btw, what exactly is ciborium?
[16:34] <jgdx> kenvandine, well, plars said he was looking into it, and I got artifacts, finally: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/2020/artifact/
[16:34] <plars> kenvandine: fginther is out this week, and I'd welcome any ideas you might have about it
[16:35] <plars> kenvandine: I've never touched the otto stuff, so it's not an area that I know much about
[16:35] <jgdx> I think there's a dep missing/wrong
[16:35] <kenvandine> jgdx, doesn't look like it
[16:37] <kenvandine> jgdx, just commented on the reset MR
[16:37] <jgdx> kenvandine, thanks
[16:37] <kenvandine> the launcher reset requires a shell restart right?
[16:38] <plars> sil2100: I opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1353591 for that race
[16:38] <sil2100> Excellent :)
[16:38] <sil2100> plars: thanks!
[16:38]  * ogra_ subscribes
[16:39] <jgdx> mterry, do you have any info re: https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1219793-reset/+merge/228954/comments/557780
[16:40] <jgdx> kenvandine, yes, but Unity should do that right? :)
[16:41] <mterry> jgdx, commented
[16:41] <kenvandine> jgdx, probably
[16:41] <ogra_> we allow a reset without reboot ?
[16:41] <ogra_> even though you cant even change the language without rebooting ?
[16:41] <kenvandine> ogra_, just the launcher favorites
[16:42] <kenvandine> but unity8 needs a restart to notice
[16:42] <ogra_> ah i thought threre was code for "erase everything"
[16:42] <kenvandine> there is :)
[16:42] <kenvandine> but that does restart the device
[16:42] <mterry> but this specific thing is just the launcher
[16:42] <ogra_> ah, k
[16:43]  * ogra_ stops making unqualified drive-by comments
[16:43] <ogra_> :)
[16:43] <jgdx> mterry, thx
[16:43] <kenvandine> ogra_, ok, i got a silo for your branch, the reset branch will need a little love :)
[16:43] <mterry> ogra_, pfft might as well stop being a FOSS developer then  ;)
[16:43] <ogra_> lol
[16:43] <kenvandine> haha
[16:43] <ogra_> kenvandine, yay !
[16:44] <kenvandine> ogra_, i started a build too
[16:44] <ogra_> double yay
[16:44] <kenvandine> ogra_, can you take it from here though?  i'm going to be out for a couple hours this afternoon
[16:44] <ogra_> yip
[16:44] <kenvandine> ogra_, thx
[16:45] <kenvandine> jgdx, of course we don't have designs for notifying the user of that
[16:45] <kenvandine> but we need the user to know the reset didn't fail :)
[16:47] <jgdx> kenvandine, maybe mpt can inject a line in the spec dealing with this? :)
[16:47] <kenvandine> hopefully :)
[16:48] <jgdx> kenvandine, gsettings-ubuntu-schemas, what version do you have?
[16:49] <kenvandine> 0.0.2+14.10.20140802.1-0ubuntu1
[16:49] <jgdx> kenvandine, thanks
[16:50] <jgdx> what is otto? How can I reproduce what it does?
[17:02] <systemclient> Would Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 10 give me enough to read some PDFs on it?
[17:02] <ogra_> yes
[17:03] <ogra_> (you would have to install the pdf viewer from the store though)
[17:05] <systemclient> Do I need an account for the store, or is it more like the usual Ubuntu repos?
[17:05] <systemclient> and does it have an SSH Server to put Data on it?
[17:06] <ogra_> it has mtpp to put data on it
[17:06] <ogra_> *mtp
[17:06] <ogra_> and yes, you need a launchpad account for the store
[17:07] <systemclient> apparently, it can run the openssh-server
[17:08] <ogra_> sure
[17:08] <ogra_> but you need a key in place for the phablet user
[17:09] <systemclient> does it work any different than normal SSH?
[17:10] <ogra_> no, but password auth is hard disabled
[17:12] <systemclient> okay, so I use ADB to copy my computer's public key to the device, then
[17:13] <ogra_> right
[17:14] <sil2100> boiko: hi! Any progress in making the test-fix branches landable?
[17:15] <boiko> sil2100: they are on silo 009, testing right now, gave up waiting on jenkins in the MRs themselves
[17:16] <sil2100> boiko: thanks :) robru will be around to land it as soon as it's ready
[17:45] <kenvandine> ugh... the notification spam... on reboot my phone now dings and vibrates uncontrollably for like 30s
[17:48] <ogra_> told ya
[17:48] <ogra_> :)
[18:08] <mterry> slangasek, is there a way to ask PAM if a password would be legal without actually trying to set it for the user?
[18:10] <davmor2> kenvandine: And it is stupid twitter pm's which mean they very rarely change
[18:28] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, ogra_ is there a bug filed to prune notifications or something?
[18:29] <ogra_> pmcgowan, i think popey files a bunch
[18:29] <ogra_> *filed
[18:29] <ogra_> (not one for every notification, that would have been 1000 or so :P )
[18:31] <sergiusens> slangasek: hey, I'm seeing issues with gccgo when using cgo -> load cmd/cgo: package cmd/cgo: open /usr/src/cmd/cgo: no such file or directory
[18:36] <popey> pmcgowan: i do...
[18:36] <popey> pmcgowan: bug 1352602
[18:37] <popey> bug 1352604 also
[18:37] <popey> bug 1352599
[18:41] <pmcgowan> popey, thanks at least 1352602 needs to be fixed
[18:41] <beuno> mdeslaur, jdstrand, cjwatson, FYI, we have a signed click package on staging, "demo4"
[18:52] <mdeslaur> beuno: cool :)
[19:19] <jdstrand> nice!
[19:22] <mterry> kgunn, if I have a butt ugly version of the password-in-wizard screen, should I try to land that alone or should I wait for the visuals from design?
[19:22] <kgunn> yes mterry :)
[19:22] <kgunn> butt ugly better than no butt
[19:22] <mterry> so ugly though.  But OK
[19:22]  * kgunn can't wait to see it
[19:22]  * mterry has to polish it up a little bit, but it works
[19:34] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: popey: if there was an image build most of this would be solved from an account notifications point of view
[19:34] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, good to know
[19:35] <sergiusens> landed yesterday evening, but there hasn't been an image build since
[19:35] <sergiusens> for no reason I can figure
[19:35] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: popey for the avatars, dednick_ and Chipaca figured out some fix, I was told it was fixed last week, not sure why it hasn't landed yet
[19:36] <Chipaca> for which avatars?
[19:36] <Chipaca> ah!
[19:36] <daker> sergiusens: +1 it's fixed, for the avatars no.
[19:36] <Chipaca> no idea me either. I didn't figur enothing; it was all mr dednick
[19:37] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, there was an image last night
[19:37] <pmcgowan> 175
[19:37] <sergiusens> daker: avatars is not something I can fix
[19:37] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ah, the I missed the slot :-/
[19:48] <mterry> kgunn, cool then: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-password/+merge/229853
[19:48] <mterry> I've quoted you as approving and loving the awful design
[19:48] <kgunn> lol
[19:48] <kgunn> mterry: whatever it takes :)
[19:54] <bregma> so, there is no longer a dash in the Unity 8 desktop, did another change go in that relies on the OEM putting stuff on the user's computer?
[19:54] <bregma> lots of errors logged about 'No such running application with appId= "unity8-dash"'
[19:54] <bregma> but apparently no packages or dependencies to fix the issue
[19:57] <kgunn> bregma: when did this appear ?
[19:58] <kgunn> i'm  kinda guessing its dash-as-app....i tested, but i couldn't get past greeter
[19:58] <bregma> well, I just updated for the firt time in 2 days, so I assume yesterday when the dash-as-app landed
[19:59] <kgunn> bregma: how are you getting past greeter?
[19:59] <kgunn> i'm guessing guest works now?
[19:59] <bregma> kgunn, no problem getting past the greeter, just not much to do except play with the (now mostly broken) indicators
[20:00] <bregma> I don't test with guest, too hard to play remotely
[20:00] <kgunn> i'll file a bug bregma
[20:01] <bregma> is there at least a package for the dash that I can install?  Searching the archive doesn't find anything
[20:04] <kgunn> bregma: its still part of unity8
[20:05] <bregma> or is it?
[20:08] <kgunn> bregma: it is...
[20:08] <kgunn> bregma: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/dash-as-app/+merge/228534
[20:08] <bregma> well, apparently the binary and the desktop file are there, it just isn't running
[20:14] <bregma> because the upstart recipe only starts it on the phone, solution seems clear enough
[20:42] <bregma> also, keyboard input has completely stopped working in the Unity 8 desktop
[20:43] <bregma> without an on-screen keyboard available, that gets pretty awkward
[22:40] <slangasek> mterry: ask PAM if a password would be legal> no
[22:40] <slangasek> sergiusens: I have never heard of cgo
[22:43] <mterry> slangasek, ah bummer, that would be a nice feature for password-setting UIs
[23:17] <vthompson> ahayzen, balloons, I just took a look at the failing tests. I think this is our problem: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps/msg00776.html
[23:17] <vthompson> If you launch the app on the desktop it by default does not have a toolbar.
[23:17] <ahayzen> vthompson, ah yes good spot
[23:18] <ahayzen> vthompson, but wideAspect should be come true when >= 70 GU... then the toolbar should be shown when wideAspect is true? ... unless something bad is happening
[23:19] <jjohn> Is there anyone who could help me with trying to boot Ubuntu to a dell poweredge 2950
[23:20] <vthompson> ahayzen, wohoo I might have a simple fix
[23:21] <ahayzen> vthompson, awesome add it to ur swipedelete one
[23:21] <ahayzen> vthompson, then we can start approve/merging again :)
[23:21] <vthompson> will do, all I did was only go into wideAspect when the ui was also loaded
[23:22] <ahayzen> vthompson, hah
[23:24] <vthompson> ahayzen, had I known this would be this easy to fix I would have gone for a run before cracking a beer and my utopic VM :)
[23:24] <ahayzen> vthompson, hahah lol ...
[23:25] <ahayzen> vthompson, i have no utopic test env that is wideaspect at the moment so i couldn't really figure out what was going on ...will have to get my vm up to date again
[23:26] <vthompson> ahayzen, yea, I try to keep 2 VM's up to date. It's a royal pain in the ass with also trying to keep 2 touch devices up to date.
[23:27] <ahayzen> vthompson, too many things!
[23:27] <ahayzen> vthompson, and now we have a massive mp review todo lol
[23:28] <vthompson> ahayzen, yea, some of them are simple though. How close is the listitems AP tests?
[23:28] <ahayzen> vthompson, v2 is working...just needs ur fix ;)
[23:28] <ahayzen> vthompson, but now needs general review
[23:28] <ahayzen> vthompson, colours/sizes etc
[23:29] <vthompson> ahayzen, I'll take a look
[23:30] <ahayzen> vthompson, cool i'll merge urs in once it is merged
[23:30] <vthompson> ahayzen, I just happroved it
[23:30]  * ahayzen waits for Jenkins
[23:31] <ahayzen> vthompson, and https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/prevent-incorrect-no-music-screen/+merge/228972 https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/lookup-file/+merge/229612 https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/music-app/dev3/+merge/229634 and maybe https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/remove-white-error-labels-1353173/+merge/229713 can then land?
[23:31]  * ahayzen need to review the last one
[23:32] <vthompson> ahayzen, yea do we know we need to land dev3? I haven't tested it or anything
[23:32] <ahayzen> vthompson, idk balloons ?
[23:32] <vthompson> but I assume it's needed as popey top approved it
[23:32]  * vthompson gets beer 2
[23:34] <ahayzen> vthompson, maybe idk we can ask in the meeting tomoz
[23:34] <popey> beer!
[23:34] <popey> wassup?
[23:35] <ahayzen> speak of the devil
[23:35] <popey> speak of beer
[23:35] <ahayzen> popey, this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/music-app/dev3/+merge/229634 why is it required? ... what does it do?
[23:35] <vthompson> We were just wondering if dev3 needs to go in for all apps
[23:36] <popey> yeah
[23:36] <vthompson> Or is it mostly just to stay on the most recent rev in case support is dropped
[23:36] <popey> the frameworks got bumped
[23:37] <popey> and the store enforced it on us.
[23:37] <popey> so we had to bump to allow uploads to the store
[23:37] <popey> if we didn't bump then we'd be unable to upload
[23:37] <ahayzen> ah ok we'll merge that in our merge fest then
[23:37] <popey> balloons bumped all the core apps
[23:41] <vthompson> sweet sassy molassy we're green again. MERGE!
[23:41] <popey> ooh!
[23:41] <ahayzen> \o/
[23:41] <popey> are tests passing in jenkins now?
[23:42] <popey> if so
[23:42] <ahayzen> land the things people
[23:42] <ahayzen> popey, we've got about 5 branchs to land
[23:42] <popey> indeed
[23:42] <popey> need me to retrigger jenkins on any?
[23:42] <vthompson> Don't think so.
[23:43] <ahayzen> https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/prevent-incorrect-no-music-screen/+merge/228972 and https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/music-app/dev3/+merge/229634 approved
[23:43] <ahayzen> vthompson, can u look at my comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/lookup-file/+merge/229612
[23:43] <vthompson> ahayzen, sure thing
[23:44] <ahayzen> then once ^^ and https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/remove-white-error-labels-1353173/+merge/229713 lands.. we'll be in a 'working' state again \o/
[23:45] <vthompson> So I think we should leave selectedAlbum should stay true... unless you see something that would cause it to retrigger something
[23:45] <vthompson> derp
[23:48] <vthompson> hm, actually let's set it back to false just incase
[23:48] <ahayzen> hehe yeah i wasn't sure about tht