[00:00] <Ryezza> TJ: same error message with no drives attached
[00:00] <nightdemon666> TJ- not a bad idea, ... i have tested in mostly 480p due to youtube defaulting to that resolution. the screen resolution is 1900 x 768 or something like that. again though, i did not have this type of fail using netbook with intel graphics using the same screen but running ubuntu 12.04
[00:01] <jl420> TJ if u get a chance a URL u know should work in vlc and ill try that
[00:03] <nightdemon666> TJ- this fail is tough because it takes a while for it to fail. i have to find a video with a play list to make it fail. It will eventually fail on its own, which sucks cuz users will usually continue to watch many videos one after the other.
[00:04] <nightdemon666> TJ- also much of the time, the computer is in use, so much of the test time as to be when people are NOT using it, and most of my work testing it is performed via ssh (command line)
[00:05] <nightdemon666> TJ- basically, i set it up, allow users to use as they please (with in reason) then i get feed back from users about problems if any. then i can log in via ssh and resolve as needed.
[00:07] <nightdemon666> any body, and i mean ANYBODY have a bit of experience in  firefox crashes, fails etc...???
[00:07] <TJ-> jl420: I tried it, running from the terminal "vlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pB-5XG-DbAA" and I get "gnutls tls session error: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated"
[00:07] <jl420> can anyone on here help me playback media with vlc ubuntu 14.04 any help would be greatly apprecitaed
[00:08] <jl420> TJ while i get unable to open MRL error same as with a dvd or file. Any ideas?
[00:08] <jl420> TJ could u give me one to try that u know should work
[00:09] <nightdemon666> jl420, i have vlc running well on ubuntu 14.04 what your beef?
[00:10] <Loshki> nightdemon666: #firefox ?
[00:10] <nightdemon666> loshki, yes like the web browser lol
[00:10] <jl420> nightdemon666 no matter what i try to play on vlc whether its dvd, file, or URL it says : unable to open MRL
[00:10] <TJ-> jl420: No, I don't mess about with videos
[00:11] <Loshki> nightdemon666: Sorry, I meant you should /join #firefox
[00:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Why do integrated menu bars not work as a super user?
[00:11] <nightdemon666> oh, yeah sorry loshki, just got that.. i wondered if there was that channel with enough people to help. if i go into that channel i have to fight through people who are willing to help linuxers!
[00:12] <jl420> TJ o i see ok thank u for all youe help.
[00:12] <nightdemon666> jl420, can you play the videos via totem?
[00:12] <jl420> nightdemon666 any input on my problem?
[00:12] <nightdemon666> jl420, yes trying to help see message above...
[00:13] <jl420> nightdemon666 no no luck in totem either
[00:14] <nightdemon666> that is not good!!! jl420
[00:14] <nightdemon666> have you run totem via command line to see what output of errors come up jl420?
[00:14] <TJ-> jl420: This works: "vlc http://youtube.com/watch?v=GQe3JxJHpxQ"
[00:15] <TJ-> jl420: I think the videos you are trying to view are protected by DRM
[00:15] <jl420> nightdemon666 no i have not... could u please give me the command
[00:15] <nightdemon666> jl420 gimme a sec on that...
[00:17] <nightdemon666> jl420, looks like you can type 'usr/lib/totem' in terminal to run totem via terminal. that way you can see failure messages as the program runs. run a file firest. lets squash that before we go further with dvd's and such...
[00:17] <Loshki> jl420: vlc http://youtube.com/watch?v=GQe3JxJHpxQ plays for me, *despite* also throwing a "[0x7f633400b6e8] gnutls tls client error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received" error and a couple of Qt4 errors
[00:18] <Ryezza> TJ: the DRDY error is right after "failed command: IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE" and a few other errors
[00:18] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu 12 LTS. what options do i use to mount all drives at login. NOT boot/startup
[00:18] <nightdemon666> loshki, jl420 is not even able to play via totem
[00:18] <nightdemon666> FYI
[00:18] <TJ-> Ryezza: Hmmm, packet device?
[00:19] <AcidRain2012> rly i need all of my drives to mount after startup. idc when. just not during.
[00:19] <Ryezza> TJ: comp isn't hooked up to a network, we're wireless only here.  Related?
[00:19] <zacwalls> how do i install ubuntu desktop in xubuntu?
[00:19] <AcidRain2012> for some reason i ALWAYS get failed to mount devices. press s to skip or keep waiting. needless to say i will wait forever. once i login and do a sudo mount -a. all drives get instantly mounted. very quickly
[00:19] <daftykins> zacwalls: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:20] <TJ-> Ryezza: Well, that's easy... you've hooked up the DVD player to a SATA port, and the SATA controller cannot handle the ATAPI commands sent to it
[00:20] <zacwalls> okay
[00:20] <AcidRain2012> im looking at fstab
[00:20] <AcidRain2012> right now i have all drives to mount on network connection. which is established before login
[00:20] <Ryezza> TJ: ahh... yeah the DVD player is SATA
[00:21] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: well, do you wanna fix the "press s to skip' problem or do you wanna do the 'late mount workaround'?
[00:21] <jl420> nightdemon666 i will give this a try.
[00:21] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: how difficult would it be to fix these issues?
[00:21] <jl420> could someone please give me the commands to change dvd region setting using terminal
[00:21] <Ryezza> TJ: whats the fix tho?  Both my DVD drives are SATA only
[00:21] <TJ-> Ryezza: That can be fixed in 2 ways: 1) switch the DVD player to a SATA port on another controller (many mobo's have multiple controllers), or 2) after installation, edit the udev rule that tries to set up persistent storage rules for ATAPI devices
[00:21] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: not sure yet. How many disks do you have, and what all is on them?
[00:21] <TJ-> Ryezza: Are you booting from them, or from a USB?
[00:22] <AcidRain2012> 4 disks. and rly its a LOT of data
[00:22] <Ryezza> TJ: booting from DVD.  I can try the other SATA controller, there are two
[00:22] <peloverde> Is there a way to reset unity to the default settings? when I wipe dconf I wind up logging in to Adwaita as my theme
[00:22] <AcidRain2012> roughly 6TB in use across all 4. 8TB total space
[00:22] <TJ-> Ryezza: My bet is that will fix that issue, if the other controller is not SATA3 ..
[00:22] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: what about the 'system' disk, which OS(es) etc?
[00:23] <nightdemon666> any time you need to troubleshoot an application, you want to know that you can type 'whereis (app name)' and usually its in /usr/bin.. that way you can see when there are failures and it helps provide some clue on resolution... jl420, have you installed all the gstreamer plugins???
[00:23] <AcidRain2012> only 1 os. ubuntu 12. the rest are just storage
[00:23] <TJ-> peloverde: "unity --reset" I think
[00:23] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: 12.04 LTS ?
[00:23] <nightdemon666> jl420, inknow that video "should" lay via vlc out of the box, but just asking...
[00:23] <capable> AcidRain2012: set them to 'noauto' in /etc/fstab
[00:23] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: this has rly been an issue since day one. yes 12.04
[00:23] <capable> AcidRain2012: put your sudo mount command into your DE autostart
[00:23] <peloverde> TJ-: "ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated"
[00:23] <capable> AcidRain2012: or even your ~/.bash_profile/rc
[00:23] <jl420> could someone please tell me the commands to change region setting on dvd drive???????
[00:23] <capable> jl420: I thought TJ- determined that wasn't your issue
[00:24] <AcidRain2012> capable: then i would have to provide a password. i either want this to happen after i login. keep doing it manually. or be fixed.
[00:24] <AcidRain2012> im rly tired of seeing this issue
[00:24] <TJ-> jl420: I gave it to you earlier; you ran it!
[00:24] <TJ-> jl420: Did you test that Youtube video that 2 of us have confirmed will play using vlc?
[00:25] <jl420> capable yes but everything people have told me i have copied all the commands and id like to save them. I accidentaly erased the ones for the region code
[00:25] <TJ-> peloverde: Scrap Unity! I swear the programmers deliberately want to antagonise the users! Try "man unity" there may be an alternative option!
[00:25] <jl420> yes that video didnt work either
[00:25] <nightdemon666> jl420 doesnt seem to be able to play anything via vlc totem or what ever... that cray cray :-/
[00:25] <Ryezza> TJ: other controller, same DRDY error
[00:25] <TJ-> jl420: then you've got something wrong on your system - that was an unencrypted video
[00:26] <capable> jl420: it's all over the internet, you don't need to save it
[00:26] <TJ-> Ryezza: You're not having much luck! In the firmware I bet you can set the sata controller mode(s) for one of the other... maybe try that?
[00:26] <jl420> nightdemon666 the only way i can watch a video is through chromium and it lags and doesnt work very well at all.
[00:26] <TJ-> jl420: don't go changing region settings unless you know that is the cause, you'll just mess up the hardware
[00:26] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: well, first, I think we should fsck your system disk. Can you pastebin the output of "df" and "fdisk -l" ?
[00:27] <Ryezza> TJ: I'll take a look and see what options are there.  What mode am I looking for?
[00:27] <TJ-> Ryezza: I'm unsure, I'd use intuition on that
[00:27] <nightdemon666> jl420, the region code is only useful for dvd playback, which i suggest you not test yet until you get playback from files... jl420, can you please tell me what hardware you are operating on?
[00:27] <jl420> capable true i guess sorry im just really trying to learn and remember all this command stuff
[00:27] <TJ-> Ryezza: possible something like "compatibility", but I've only seen this on a couple of systems so not sure what might be there
[00:27] <peloverde> TJ-: It's frustrating that implementation details change wildly between releases making things ungoogleable
[00:28] <TJ-> peloverde: Agreed. I use KDE, Unity is definitely not my cup of tea!
[00:29] <capable> jl420: install hexchat, use that for IRC instead of the webchat, and enable logging
[00:29] <capable> jl420: you'll never want for a command again
[00:29] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: http://pastebin.com/xwUqSgmd
[00:30] <AcidRain2012> i also included my current fstab
[00:30] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: sry. to revise the issue: 2 drives are not properly mounting. Server and Server2. the mirrors of those drives (seen in my posted fstab) also do not work. i only assume simply because the drives were never mounted
[00:30] <jl420> nightdemon666 its an older laptop its a dell latitude d610 probably easier for u to find it that way than me type everything
[00:31] <Ryezza> TJ: not seeing a lot of options.  ASPM Support is disabled, SATAExpress_E1 SRIS Support is on auto. That's about it for both controllers
[00:31] <jl420> capable awesome!! thank u for that advice
[00:32] <TJ-> Ryezza: ASPM can be useful, but don't change for now! Well, no use there either then. What is the make/model of the mobo?
[00:32] <Ryezza> ASUS z97-Deluxe
[00:33] <AcidRain2012> capable: i prefer kvirc over hexchat/xchat/mirc/icechat/etc... check it out.
[00:33] <skypce> hello again
[00:33] <skypce> what is the hook dir?
[00:33] <skypce> https://wiki.debian.org/PbuilderTricks
[00:34] <skypce> deps dir is the folder with sources?
[00:34] <nightdemon666> jl420, i am running a dell latitiude d600 right now, i can run totem all i want. you are running ubuntu 14.04 right? unity version?
[00:35] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: ok, first mod. Make a backup copy of /etc/fstab. In /etc/fstab, lines 62 & 63 of your paste, two lines ending in zeros. That last zero says "never fsck this file". Change both lines to end "...0  1" instead.
[00:35] <AcidRain2012> hey cool. i got the dell latitude d620. u can get em off ebay for about 120$/ea after shipping
[00:35] <capable> AcidRain2012: I don't use KDE or Qt =)
[00:35] <TJ-> Ryezza: Are you good at crying?
[00:35] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: done
[00:35] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: surely that didnt fix it...
[00:36] <TJ-> Ryezza: "*4 : These SATA ports are for data hard drivers only. ATAPI devices are not supported" ... see "Storage" http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97DELUXENFC_WLC/specifications/
[00:36] <AcidRain2012> capable: ouch... missin out bro :P
[00:36] <Ryezza> TJ: ah, nice catch.  dang
[00:36] <capable> AcidRain2012: no no, I've tried it =)
[00:36] <capable> not my cup of tea
[00:36] <nightdemon666> jl420, need feed back from you sir...
[00:37] <AcidRain2012> capable: what you run?
[00:37] <capable> AcidRain2012: Xfce most of the time
[00:37] <TJ-> Ryezza: doesn't that mobo have some grey SATA sockets on the Intel Z97 chipset?
[00:37] <Ryezza> looking now
[00:37] <AcidRain2012> capable: i like xfce. i installed it on a few slower desktops/laptops that just couldnt handle the stress of KDE or Qt. or unity for that matter.
[00:38] <AcidRain2012> capable: xfce makes whatever you put it on run FAST
[00:38] <AcidRain2012> i saw a huge difference in speed
[00:38] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: no, but now those disks will be fscked automatically periodically. If you type fsck now, it should find and fsck your two media disks. This will take some time. Wanna do it now, or wait?
[00:38] <TJ-> Ryezza: From what I can see in that spec, without fetching the manual, there are colours denoting each controller's ports,
[00:38] <capable> AcidRain2012: yeah, it's even faster if you disable all the GNOME stuff
[00:38] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: im scared to run that. lol
[00:38] <capable> I also find that upstream throws fewer surprising drastic changes at their users
[00:39] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: these drives contain alot of data that i dont have money to backup right now.
[00:39] <peloverde> I tried running XFCE but it seemed super broken on 14.04, I couldn't do anything to turn off tearing, Greybird was buggy, and chrome menus were all screwed up
[00:39] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: in the event that it did find something wrong with it. i dont want it to try and fix it on its own.
[00:40] <Busserl> Unity used about 700MB RAM, last time I tried it.
[00:41] <capable> I don't use GTK+3 with Xfce yet
[00:41] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: I understand, but better to run it now, while you can watch it, than during boot, when all you can do is drum your fingers. Pls. stand by...
[00:41] <capable> (or with Ubuntu =P)
[00:42] <terry> tried and tried to find the answer to this...can someone please help....I have a Dell inspiron 1727,  I need to know the size of the hard drive that came with this model...I put Ubuntu 14.04 on this machine and it showed 160gb drive,,,,,I think it is much bigger but not sure
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: what have you got me into
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> lol
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> ok. i just run sudo fsck?
[00:42] <capable> terry: sudo fdisk -l
[00:42] <zacwalls> how do i check what vertion of ubuntu i have?
[00:43] <terry> capable, : hang on please
[00:43] <capable> zacwalls: cat /etc/*release* /etc/*version*
[00:44] <zacwalls> is that a command?
[00:44] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: we've only done one edit, easily backed out if needed. Next, run "fsck -p /media/Server". The "-p (preen)" option is considered safe.
[00:44] <capable> zacwalls: yup
[00:44] <Eddy2014> hi
[00:44] <zacwalls> aha
[00:44] <Eddy2014> Im new
[00:44] <terry> capable, : it shows 160 gig but I think it is closer to 300 gig and some of hd got hidden when ubuntu installed
[00:44] <TJ-> Ryezza: page 1-36 of the manual seems to indicate the Intel ports in blocks A and B - the Intel ports are the outboard side ports, the AS Media controller ports are inboard
[00:44] <capable> terry: what makes you think that
[00:45] <capable> Eddy2014: hi
[00:45] <capable> terry: if it says 160 at the top, that's all there is
[00:45] <Ryezza> TJ: looking at that page now
[00:45] <capable> terry: okay actually I can think of _one_ way you wouldn't see extra space that was really there
[00:45] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: lulz. that command is extremely scary
[00:45] <capable> terry: and that's if your BIOS is configured to pretend the drive is two separate drives, for raid or something
[00:45] <terry> capable, : the system had windows on it, and showed better than 300 gig
[00:46] <AcidRain2012> Warning: that filesystem is mounted. if you continue you will cause extreme filesystem damage.
[00:46] <AcidRain2012> :/
[00:46] <capable> terry: look in your BIOS options for sata/raid
[00:46] <TJ-> terry: "grep 'logical blocks' /var/log/dmesg" will show you the drive sizes reported to the kernel
[00:46] <Eddy2014> whats Ubuntu channel for?>
[00:46] <Izura> hello room. anyone had any problems installing most up2date version of clamav in 14.04.1?
[00:46] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: oops. Dismount it first!
[00:46] <capable> Eddy2014: Ubuntu
[00:46] <peloverde> Is there a minimal kde package for ubuntu?
[00:46] <Eddy2014> yes whats Ubuntu for?
[00:46] <zacwalls> okay now how do i do a fresh install of 14.04.1 i dont really know how to do one but i kind of do. i know i need a stick wich i have on hand but...i dont know what to do after that.
[00:46] <terry> TJ-, : do i do "sudo" with that
[00:46] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: ok. i did sudo umount /media/Server
[00:46] <capable> peloverde: you can pick and choose what packages you want
[00:47] <Ryezza> TJ: this stuff is like Greek to me tho.  there are 6 SATA ports on the top connector and 4 (plus 2 mini) on the bottom one
[00:47] <AcidRain2012> and tried again. says its still mounted :L/
[00:47] <capable> Eddy2014: operating systems
[00:47] <Eddy2014> oh
[00:47] <Eddy2014> cool
[00:47] <morsing_> Does any one know how to disable vsync? These are my graphics: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770
[00:47] <TJ-> terry: Shouldn't need to, but if you get a warning, rerun with sudo
[00:47] <capable> Eddy2014: yup
[00:47] <capable> morsing_: what for
[00:47] <Eddy2014> anyone have a mIRC script like Excursion back in 2001?
[00:47] <terry> capable, : sorry slow down
[00:47] <capable> Eddy2014: ask #2001
[00:47] <Ryezza> TJ: I initially had the drive plugged into the very top slot above A, then into the top slot on B in the picture
[00:47] <TJ-> terry: I have my user account with permanent admin privileges so I sometimes forget what needs sudo :)
[00:47] <Eddy2014> how do i ask #2001
[00:47] <morsing_> capable: cs 1.6, i have disabled vsync in the game. But it were still capped at 60 fps
[00:48] <Eddy2014> lol i forgot how to use this
[00:48] <capable> TJ-: only way to fly
[00:48] <AcidRain2012> ./join #2001
[00:48] <capable> ...
[00:48] <Eddy2014> thank you
[00:48] <AcidRain2012> =))))
[00:48] <terry> i have 2 talking to me...sorry just need one...cant keep up with both
[00:48] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: are you sure you typed the correct path. You can try "fsck -p /dev/sdd1" instead.
[00:48] <Ryezza> TJ: hmm, those are both ASMedia.  Maybe I need one of the Intel internal ports on A
[00:48] <TJ-> Ryezza: top-slot on A are all on the ASMedia controller; top slot on B could be either, depending on if you used the in-board socket (ASMedia) or out-board (Intel)
[00:48] <capable> terry: /lastlog terry
[00:49] <TJ-> Ryezza: You've got it :)
[00:49] <Eddy2014> ask #2001
[00:49] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: yes
[00:49] <TJ-> Ryezza: I have to say that is a very messed up way of laying out sockets to deliberately catch you out
[00:49] <Eddy2014> ./join #001
[00:49] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: appears the system is detecting it as mounted even though its not
[00:49] <Ryezza> TJ: no kidding!
[00:49] <Eddy2014> ./join #2001 is empty
[00:50] <terry> capable, : sorry  room mate just came home and bitching... cant concentrate......you will be here for a while????
[00:50] <TJ-> Ryezza: hopefully it'll get you somewhere though :)
[00:50] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: i can still acess both of them in dolphin browser
[00:50] <AcidRain2012> Eddy2014: lol ;p
[00:50] <Eddy2014> punk
[00:50] <AcidRain2012> =D
[00:50] <skypce> gus
[00:50] <Ryezza> TJ: so I want one of the bottom slots on A
[00:50] <skypce> guys
[00:50] <skypce> i am inside pbuilder --login
[00:51] <skypce> how can create  debian control and rules?
[00:51] <TJ-> Ryezza: as long as it is an *out-board* socket!
[00:51] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: that's a bad sign. Try unmounting and fscking the other two data disks in turn. btw: Are you sure the unmount ran ok?
[00:51] <skypce> TJ-, last help please
[00:51] <Eddy2014> how can i connect to the Matrix!!!!
[00:51] <capable> terry: if you send '/lastlog terry' as a message, you can get a quick buffer of every message someone directed to you, and also your own messages
[00:51] <skypce> the source that i have doesnt have debian folder
[00:51] <TJ-> skypce: what do you want to create them inside a pbuilder? We use pbuilders to build a completed source package
[00:52] <capable> terry: so you needn't worry about losing track
[00:52] <Eddy2014> @capable
[00:52] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: http://pastebin.com/Fczh7Kya
[00:52] <Eddy2014> how do i get excursion?
[00:52] <Eddy2014> or something similar
[00:52] <Eddy2014> anyone
[00:52] <AcidRain2012> like i said. mounting has never been an issue, only at boot time. unmounting however, has always been an issue
[00:52] <capable> Eddy2014: ask #mirc
[00:52] <AcidRain2012> try #mirc2001
[00:52] <AcidRain2012> i heard they got good stuff
[00:52] <skypce> TJ-, pbuilder allow to me create a package without install packages in my system?
[00:52] <AcidRain2012> =)))))))))))))))))))
[00:52] <capable> AcidRain2012: you get it sorted?
[00:52] <Eddy2014> lol
[00:53] <AcidRain2012> capable: no.
[00:53] <AcidRain2012> cant unmount the disks
[00:53] <skypce> it creates something like a virtual machine
[00:53] <skypce> i dont have glib vxx but i was created pbuilder trusty that have this version
[00:53] <TJ-> skypce: The process is: 1) get source package 2) edit it ready for building 3) test-build the source in a chroot/pbuild/VM environment to ensure the dependencies are correct 4) ship binary packages
[00:53] <Eddy2014> damn i havent been on here for 13 years
[00:54] <capable> AcidRain2012: why not?
[00:54] <capable> AcidRain2012: and why does it matter if the idea was to mount them
[00:54] <AcidRain2012> capable: http://pastebin.com/Fczh7Kya idk
[00:54] <skypce> i am confused
[00:54] <skypce> :S
[00:54] <TJ-> skypce: I'd gathered that
[00:54] <skypce> i back in a moment
[00:54] <capable> AcidRain2012: you umount mount points, not devies
[00:54] <capable> devices*
[00:54] <zacwalls> kay now how do i do a fresh install of 14.04.1 i dont really know how to do one but i kind of do. i know i need a stick wich i have on hand but...i dont know what to do after that.
[00:54] <AcidRain2012> capable: Loshki told me to run fsck on them. says its dangerous to run while they are mounted
[00:54] <Ryezza> TJ: different socket same result.  I'm still not clear on what out-board is though
[00:54] <AcidRain2012> capable: i also ran sudo umount /media/Server
[00:55] <AcidRain2012> says thats not mounted either. first time i ran it it told me it unmounted it
[00:55] <capable> AcidRain2012: 'mount' will tell you their paths
[00:56] <TJ-> Ryezza: Look at the diagram on page 1-36. The Intel sockets on port-set B are highlighted, and are the 3 ports on the outside edge of the mobo. In constrast,  on the next page, the ASMedia ports on the B port-set are the 3 ports closer to the middle of the mobo
[00:56] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: this is starting to make me uneasy. Are you able to boot the live cd? This would all be much easier...
[00:57] <Ryezza> TJ: gocha.  Yeah I've currently got it in SATA6G_1, which should be one of the Intel connectors
[00:57] <capable> AcidRain2012: you get lost typing m-o-u-n-t ?
[00:57] <TJ-> Ryezza: you said you had 2 DVD drives?
[00:57] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: lol. what are you getting at?
[00:57] <Ryezza> TJ: correct.  Have tried both now tho
[00:58] <AcidRain2012> capable: i saw that /media/Server/My_Documents/My_Videos/ was mounted somewhere else. so i umount'ed that
[00:58] <AcidRain2012> still same issue. that was its last mount point
[00:58] <TJ-> Ryezza: make sure they're both in Intel ports... otherwise the kernel can still hang when the ATAPI commands are sent
[00:58] <capable> AcidRain2012: what issue?
[00:58] <Ryezza> TJ: hmm, k.  will verify that
[00:58] <TJ-> Ryezza: I am *assuming*, since the manual specifically says the ASMedia controller does *not* support ATAPI, that it is inferring that this Intel controll should/does!
[00:58] <AcidRain2012> capable: the issue that terminal says its still mounted when i run fsck -p /media/Server
[00:59] <TJ-> Ryezza: If both DVD drives are on the Intel ports, then in the Firmware ensure the Intel mode is AHCI not RAID
[00:59] <zacwalls> kay now how do i do a fresh install of 14.04.1 i dont really know how to do one but i kind of do. i know i need a stick wich i have on hand but...i dont know what to do after that.
[00:59] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: you need to do the following: 1) fsck your data disks, 2) fsck your system disk 3) fix your mounting anomalies 4) back up your data. Since your system appears corrupted (can't unmount, for example) it's harder to do this while it's running, so the live cd avoids this. Am I making sense yet?
[00:59] <TJ-> Ryezza: If you still get the error, the motherboard doesn't like ATAPI devices
[00:59] <Ryezza> TJ: had one drive still in the other port, gonna move it now.  Tough to move under the 770
[01:00] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: capable i wont lie. im getting scared that im giong to lose some data in this. these drives are brand new as of about 2 months ago. im going to backout man. thx for the help
[01:00] <TJ-> Ryezza: I know, you need minature robots to move cables around sometimes
[01:00] <AcidRain2012> Loshki: the system has been running great since i installed it about 2yrs ago. ive just always had this issue
[01:00] <AcidRain2012> ive rly got too much stuff to turn back
[01:01] <capable> AcidRain2012: I'm not interested in fsck
[01:01] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: check all mounts that are active with "cat /proc/mounts" - you might find a device is mounted at more than one mount-point
[01:02] <capable> AcidRain2012: you know an fsck will take AGES for large drives, right?
[01:02] <capable> it will take lifetimes
[01:02] <AcidRain2012> ye. Loshki lets take a few steps back. if the system crashes. thats fine. no worries. but i absolutely cannot lose these disks.
[01:02] <AcidRain2012> i simply want the drives to mount, and not question me about it.
[01:02] <capable> the system will fsck them regularly by default, IME
[01:03] <capable> so I wouldn't worry they need some immediate fsck for no particular reason
[01:03] <Loshki> AcidRain2012: your disks haven't been fscked since you installed them. You could be accumulating write errors as we speak until suddenly, eek, you can't find your data. Not to mention disk failures, which can happen at any time. And you have no backups for irreplaceable data. Just saying...
[01:03] <jl420> capable how do i enable logging
[01:03] <capable> jl420: it's in the prefs
[01:04] <capable> jl420: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/23da1e53b93dae90da28cd1d72d20f57942fbdee/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f706f794e4e66312e706e67
[01:04] <aliteralmind> Any ideas why "sudo /opt/jenv/bin/pip install psycopg2" is failing? Error: http://dpaste.com/2APSTRE
[01:04] <capable> jl420: /set irc_logging 1
[01:04] <terry> capable, :  still here?????
[01:04] <capable> terry: nope
[01:05] <terry> capable, :thnks
[01:05] <aliteralmind> I'm working through these install instructions for Django on Digital Ocean. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn
[01:05] <jl420> capable it says enable logging conversations to disk...or enable logging urls to a disk which one do i want
[01:05] <terry> TJ-, : you still available
[01:06] <aliteralmind> The reason I'm using sudo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507320/starting-with-ubuntu-in-digitalocean-pip-failing-with-permission-denied
[01:06] <Ryezza> TJ: progress! think we're booting up here
[01:06] <TJ-> terry: No, about to go to bed, just waiting to see if Ryezza is sorted
[01:06] <TJ-> Ryezza: About &^%%&! time :p
[01:06] <terry> TJ-, : can you hand me off to someone else
[01:06] <capable> jl420: the former is all messages
[01:06] <jl420> capable?
[01:06] <Ryezza> TJ: woohoo!  yep, got a desktop
[01:06] <Ryezza> TJ: you rock
[01:06] <capable> jl420: the latter is just a convenience if you want to have a list of every WEBSITE someone mentioned
[01:07] <TJ-> Ryezza: You're able to continue now, then?
[01:07] <capable> jl420: I'd enable both
[01:07] <Ryezza> TJ: yeah I think I'm good.  can't thank you enough for your help, I would've been stuck forever
[01:07] <capable> jl420: but conversations to disk is the big one
[01:07] <capable> aliteralmind: what's up?
[01:07] <TJ-> Ryezza: you're welcome... i'm gonna get my head into a great audiobook now and try to forget SATA nightmares :)
[01:07] <jl420> capable ok and how does that help me get commands?
[01:08] <aliteralmind> Hey.  :)
[01:08] <Ryezza> TJ: sounds good, enjoy the book. :)  and thanks again
[01:08] <aliteralmind> capable Hey
[01:08] <aliteralmind> (Not used to this appending the username to your message, yet  :)
[01:08] <capable> jl420: it stores a copy of every message, you can refer to it at any time
[01:08] <capable> jl420: grep TJ ~/.config/hexchat/logs/whatever/*freenode*
[01:09] <capable> jl420: boom, you'd get every msg TJ sent
[01:09] <terry> need some help with install of Ubuntu 14.04.... will take some time
[01:09] <capable> jl420: egrep 'TJ.*?jl420' and you'd get every message he sent _to you_
[01:09] <terry> installed but with problems
[01:09] <aliteralmind> capable Any ideas why "sudo /opt/jenv/bin/pip install psycopg2" is failing? Error: http://dpaste.com/2APSTRE
[01:09] <capable> aliteralmind: not familiar with nettalk, but usually you can type the beginning of a person's nick and hit TAB to complete it
[01:09] <aliteralmind> I'm working through these install instructions for Django on Digital Ocean. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn
[01:09] <aliteralmind> For others: The reason I'm using sudo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507320/starting-with-ubuntu-in-digitalocean-pip-failing-with-permission-denied
[01:09] <capable> aliteralmind: c-a-p-a-TAB
[01:10] <jl420> capable so r those commands i enter in the terminal
[01:10] <capable> aliteralmind: or c-TAB-TAB-TAB-TAB...
[01:10] <capable> aliteralmind: okay, and what's the problem?
[01:10] <aliteralmind> capable Huh. I see that now.
[01:10] <Loshki> aliteralmind: no idea, but clearly you're missing Python.h: Fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory. What's up with that?
[01:11] <capable> aliteralmind: why's it so important to use digitalocean for this?
[01:12] <aliteralmind> I don't know! I just started using Digital Ocean (and Ubuntu) for the first time a few hours ago. Python 2.6 and 3.4 are both installed. I'm following their step-by-step, and this is what happened.
[01:12] <capable> aliteralmind: are you doing it just as a learning exercise, or is the specific end result somehow important?
[01:12] <capable> 'cause if it's the latter, you should choose something that doesn't make it so hard =P
[01:13] <capable> aliteralmind: oh I take it back, this isn't that bad, nevermind
[01:13] <aliteralmind> I need a non Windows server that will allow me to show off my Django skills in interviews. I don't have a laptop, and can't lug around my desktop.
[01:13] <capable> aliteralmind: there's always no-ip
[01:14] <aliteralmind> capable Being on Windows is also making it difficult to get support, since Windows is the black sheep in the hard-core programmer world, it seems.
[01:15] <aliteralmind> capable At least as far as deploying interactive websites is concerned.
[01:15] <capable> aliteralmind: it's quite a terrible OS, that is true
[01:15] <aliteralmind> capable That make sense?
[01:15] <Loshki> aliteralmind: found that Python.h file yet?
[01:15] <capable> aliteralmind: but it's only a black sheep amongst sane people =) it's still very popular in the world of business, alas
[01:16] <capable> aliteralmind: sure
[01:16] <terry> aleksander, : little hint....type the first few letters of name and hit the tab key,,   put in the semicoline yours self.......
[01:16] <aliteralmind> capable So today Django support people urged me to get onto a Unix/Linux box, and suggested Digital Ocean.
[01:17] <capable> aliteralmind: ok
[01:17] <terry> aliteralmind, : type in the first 3 or 4 letters of name and hit the tab key ....put in the semicolon your self.... that way they know you are talking to them
[01:18] <capable> mmm, he's talking to me just fine
[01:18] <aliteralmind> capable: How do I search for that file? And when I find it, what do I do with it?
[01:18] <aliteralmind> terry: Okay.
[01:19] <mystic> CTRL+F :O
[01:19] <terry> capable, : sorry, just trying to helpful
[01:19] <aliteralmind> capable: Okay, Found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/find
[01:20] <hydraidm801> how do I get rid of sendmail ?
[01:20] <capable> aliteralmind: looking for something?
[01:20] <capable> hydraidm801: uninstall it
[01:20] <hydraidm801> k how
[01:21] <aliteralmind> capable: Oh. I thought you said this: "<Loshki>aliteralmind: found that Python.h file yet?"
[01:21] <capable> hydraidm801: sudo apt-get remove sendmail
[01:21] <hydraidm801> tried that.
[01:22] <capable> aliteralmind: 'locate ython.h' might be quicker
[01:22] <skypce> dir
[01:22] <skypce> tests/Makefile.am:1:   `glib.mk' included from here
[01:22] <skypce> i have problem compiling glib
[01:22] <skypce> S:
[01:23] <skypce> iwas download it from here :
[01:23] <skypce> https://github.com/GNOME/glib
[01:23] <aliteralmind> capbale: "cd /" then "locate Python.h" gave no response, which I assume means no results.
[01:23] <daftykins> this is ubuntu land, we use packages not compilation
[01:23] <jgrevich> Can anyone tell me what may have caused my ethernet iface to be named p17p1 and how I can change it to something more common like eth0?
[01:24] <aliteralmind> capable: But I'm guessing that finding this file isn't going to do much good.
[01:24] <jgrevich> (that’s on trusty)
[01:26] <daftykins> jgrevich: it's just a name, surely it doesn't matter
[01:28] <capable> aliteralmind: will if you need to find it
[01:29] <jgrevich> daftykins: I’ve never seen an ethernet iface named anythign else than ethN.  My only concern is that some programs/scripts may expect a default eth0
[01:29] <Basketball> bazhang: Virtual packages like 'teamviewer' can't be removed
[01:29] <capable> don't think I've ever seen such a script =)
[01:29] <aliteralmind> Loshki: "locate Python.h", from the root directory, gave no response, which I presume means no results. I'm honestly not sure what good it would be even if I did find it.
[01:30] <Loshki> aliteralmind: find /usr -iname python.h -ls
[01:30] <aliteralmind> capable: I don't understand.
[01:31] <capable> aliteralmind: understand what?
[01:31] <aliteralmind> Loshki, capable: > find /usr -iname python.h -ls
[01:31] <aliteralmind> 151900    8 -rw-r--r--   1 root     root         4329 Mar 22 19:55 /usr/include/python2.7/Python.h
[01:31] <Loshki> aliteralmind: if this is known to compile, then presumably you're missing something small, like a path, or a case-sensitivity...
[01:31] <aliteralmind> capable: "aliteralmind: will if you need to find it"
[01:33] <opie> sup
[01:34] <capable> aliteralmind: nevermind =)
[01:34] <capable> opie: hi
[01:35] <aliteralmind> Loshki: The instructions are pretty unambigouous: http://goo.gl/0Dw0ZQ --> "pip install psycopg2" (about a quarter down).
[01:35] <aliteralmind> Loshki: Note that this must actually be "sudo /opt/jenv/bin/pip install psycopg2"...see this: http://askubuntu.com/q/507320/312677)
[01:35] <hydraidm801> in case anyone ever needs to know how to get rid of senmail it is apt-get purge sendmail* BTW
[01:37] <texla> aliteralmind, locate python.h
[01:37] <daftykins> hydraidm801: yeah that's package management 101
[01:37] <texla> /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus-python.h
[01:37] <texla> /usr/share/doc/python/python-policy.html/ch-python.html
[01:37] <capable> he already found it
[01:37] <hydraidm801> no thats package management 1040
[01:37] <capable> heh
[01:37] <aliteralmind> texla: See my message at 21:31.
[01:38] <skypce> hey people
[01:38] <skypce> configure: error: *** Working zlib library and headers not found ***
[01:38] <capable> wb skypce
[01:38] <skypce> what library need install?
[01:38] <capable> skypce: what're you building?
[01:38] <ChrisuLM> I'd like to automatically clone one directory to another. Additions, renames, and deletes inside directory 1 would be reflected in directory 2. Is there a program that can accomplish this?
[01:38] <skypce> glib
[01:38] <capable> skypce: you're the one who wanted some bleeding edge glib?
[01:39] <skypce> glib 2.40
[01:39] <capable> skypce: and your ubuntu version?
[01:40] <skypce> i was installed 14.04 in pbuilder
[01:40] <skypce> i am working on pbuilder
[01:40] <skypce> vn
[01:40] <skypce> vm
[01:40] <annoymouse> I was running a LiveUSB of 14.04 and opened up Terminal. When I opened Terminal in OS X (my normal OS), my name changed to ubuntu...
[01:41] <skypce> oo thank you god
[01:41] <skypce> i can configure it
[01:42] <capable> skypce: 14.04 should have glib 2.40 already
[01:42] <skypce> first stage passed
[01:42] <capable>  libglib2.0-0
[01:42] <skypce> may be need glib-dev
[01:42] <annoymouse> anyone want to help me?
[01:43] <daftykins> annoymouse: so you're in OS X right now and you claim that the terminal thinks you're called ubuntu?
[01:43] <capable> skypce: libglib2.0-dev then
[01:44] <annoymouse> daftykins: Precisely. Here's a picture http://i.imgur.com/tF3I8Hp.png
[01:44] <capable> annoymouse: echo $PS1
[01:45] <annoymouse> capable: \h:\W \u\$
[01:45] <capable> or is that just an Ubuntu-looking-like-Mac-OS joke? =P
[01:45] <annoymouse> capable: lol no. It's legit OS X
[01:46] <daftykins> annoymouse: 'whoami'
[01:46] <daftykins> and 'hostname' i dunno if that's in macs though
[01:46] <annoymouse> daftykins: palmerpa
[01:46] <annoymouse> daftykins: ubuntu.home
[01:46] <annoymouse> Looks like it changed my hostname...
[01:46] <daftykins> heh
[01:46] <daftykins> confirm in sys preferences
[01:46] <nightdemon666> keep in mind, many unix commands DO work on macs...
[01:47] <daftykins> annoymouse: going to have to suggest you continue in a mac channel, however
[01:47] <daftykins> nightdemon666: that's what had me suggesting them! :P
[01:47] <nightdemon666> just because its darwin doesnt mean it doesnt process unix :-)
[01:47] <annoymouse> daftykins: Is there a command to change your hostname?
[01:47] <daftykins> annoymouse: as i say, this isn't mac support
[01:47] <capable> well, darwin is unix =)
[01:47] <annoymouse> daftykins: OK thanks
[01:48] <nightdemon666> capable indeed :-)
[01:48] <dcwilliams_VA> Just replace that Mac OSX with 14.04...  My Macbook runs so much better now :)
[01:48] <capable> nightdemon666: and what a cute logo =P
[01:48] <capable> dcwilliams_VA: =)
[01:48] <annoymouse> daftykins: Is this a common bug? haha
[01:48] <mystic> :O
[01:48] <aliteralmind> capable, texla, Loshki: Thanks anyway for the help.
[01:48] <OerHeks> annoymouse, what does that current folder contain? the ubuntu vm ?
[01:48] <capable> annoymouse: you probably changed it without realizing
[01:48] <daftykins> annoymouse: no idea what's going on, no idea
[01:49] <annoymouse> OerHeks: Which folder?
[01:49] <daftykins> annoymouse: oh just for fun type exit in that terminal
[01:49] <annoymouse> I have
[01:50] <daftykins> and? process completed?
[01:50] <capable> it looks more like GNOME to me, than Mac OS
[01:50] <capable> and knowing annoymouse as I do... =P
[01:50] <skypce> hey capable
[01:50] <capable> heyo
[01:50] <skypce> i was run a apt-cache madison
[01:50] <daftykins> capable: you know this user?
[01:50] <nightdemon666> i replaced mac os x with ubuntu 14.04 and im happy with it, the only major bug i have is firefox fullsceen youtube videos fail over time and cause firefox to be unusable until estarted :-( other than that, very happy :-)
[01:50] <skypce> and loko
[01:50] <skypce> look
[01:50] <skypce> libglib2.0-dev |   2.24.2-1 | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
[01:50] <skypce> :s
[01:50] <capable> daftykins: there's a very annoying person with a similar nick who frequents #linux
[01:50] <capable> daftykins: but that's secondary, it looks like GNOME
[01:51] <SchrodingersScat> !info youtube-dl | nightdemon666
[01:51] <skypce> i will try to install manually other version
[01:51] <capable> and a silly joke =P
[01:51] <daftykins> i did think the dock looked pretty weird
[01:51] <capable> it all looks weird
[01:51] <daftykins> anywho lets get back on track and move on from this one
[01:51] <capable> for Mac OS =P
[01:52] <nightdemon666> i could see about streaming youtube videos from totem!!! i should have thougt of that! EXCEPT ... I i have attempted streaming from totem before and didnt care for it so much :-(
[01:53] <annoymouse> capable: Just to prove it to you http://i.imgur.com/GQtFjGF.png
[01:53] <SchrodingersScat> nightdemon666: I choose to not stream from youtube, my line isn't the best..  You can stream into various things though, if you like that.  Otherwise I have no solution for flash.
[01:53] <capable> annoymouse: I don't know Mac OS
[01:54] <skypce> error error error capable
[01:54] <Blue11> I am using xubuntu and I do NOT have printers in the settings manager interface -- is there another way to add a printer?
[01:54] <skypce> i was working in pbuilder with debian squeeze
[01:54] <totem> annoymouse, VM ware on ubuntu?
[01:54] <apb1963> so i was reading up on VNC a little bit... found a tutorial which seems to imply if I install a desktop on the machine with the VNC server, that I can use that desktop GUI on the client machine, by installing a VNC client.... but, I'm not sure if that makes any sense or not?
[01:54] <skypce> i need change to ubuntu trusty
[01:54] <nightdemon666> i think the real issue is 64 bit OS and flash on mac hardware :-(
[01:55] <mystic> ZNC. :)
[01:55] <capable> nightdemon666: what's the problem?
[01:56] <annoymouse> totem: Ubuntu was a LiveUSB actually
[01:56] <ObrienDave> Blue11, look under the System menu
[01:56] <capable> totem: just ask #macos how to change your hostname
[01:56] <capable> #macosx
[01:56] <capable> have to change their channel name if it ever exceeds version 10 =P
[01:57] <ObrienDave> Blue11, look under the System menu or Settings. Printers are not in my settings manager either
[01:58] <capable> nightdemon666: ?
[01:58] <nightdemon666> capabl, the problem is that youtube videos will stream well for a while in full screen, then i hear drum sound and the video stops, but the audio plays for a few seconds more, and then stops.
[01:58] <capable> nightdemon666: and then?
[01:59] <nightdemon666> firefox doesnt respond. i have to kill firefox to get it back to working order
[01:59] <nightdemon666> at first i was ssh-ing in, and killing firefox, then i started using the bluetooth wireless keyboard to alt+tab back to the desktop
[01:59] <zykotick9> Blue11: if you have cups installed, you could use the web interface (runs on port 631, so http://localhost:631 might work)
[02:00] <nightdemon666> right now i can t even click on youtube searches from totem to get the to play :-(
[02:00] <nightdemon666> \they come up but for some reason they dont play stupid totem!!!
[02:02] <capable> nightdemon666: what's your hardware like?
[02:03] <nightdemon666> capable, macmini 2,1 2007 model
[02:03] <nightdemon666> intel
[02:03] <nightdemon666> ubuntu 14.04
[02:03] <nightdemon666> .1
[02:03] <terry> how to use terminal to see what kind of graphics card I have please
[02:04] <zykotick9> terry: try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:06] <terry> zykotick9, : thanks ...it shows Radon Epress...........guess it is supported by  Ubuntu 14.04 ?????
[02:06] <nightdemon666> capable, let me see if i can work around this... is there a totem specific plugin for youtube videos??? i cant seem to get youtube videos to play on totem
[02:07] <capable> nightdemon666: just use youtube-viewer
[02:07] <capable> or youtube-dl + mplayer
[02:07] <zykotick9> terry: that i wouldn't know...  good luck.
[02:07] <Sikod> Hello.
[02:07] <nightdemon666> but most of the use is done through totem, help me fix my issue with totem movie player please
[02:07] <capable> Sikod: heya
[02:08] <Sikod> Please, I'm migrating from Windows 8.1 to Gnome Ubuntu and
[02:08] <Sikod> I need a email client that can connect to a Exchange server, the email client "Evolution" don't include a Exchange server option :(
[02:08] <capable> Sikod: it has, actually =)
[02:08] <terry> zykotick9, : how much do you you know about hard drives.....this machine was showing 360 gb  hd with windows ......I installed Ubuntu 14.04...now it shows 160 gb hard drive
[02:09] <Akiva-Thinkpad> has there been a  change in fonts recently?
[02:09] <capable> Sikod: there are at least three separate implementations; the latest is...
[02:09] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I notice that the ubuntu fonts seem much lighter
[02:09] <Sikod> Oh, really? Then let me check again :)
[02:09] <zykotick9> terry: that's a big difference, i can't certainly can't explain...
[02:09] <Sikod> Thank you Capable!
[02:10] <capable> Sikod: evolution-ews I think
[02:10] <terry> zykotick9, : do you know who can?
[02:10] <capable> Sikod: it adds a dropdown in the account creation wizard for exchange
[02:10] <capable> Sikod: it's pretty good
[02:10] <zykotick9> terry: "sudo fdisk -l" is showing the 160?
[02:11] <capable> terry: you check your BIOS yet?
[02:11] <zykotick9> terry: use "sudo parted -l" if you use GPT partitioning
[02:11] <chucky12> Can anyone help me get flash working in Ubuntu 14.04? I've installed Chromium and the pepperflashplugin-nonfree but still nothing. The about:flash page says the flash plugin is "Not installed"
[02:12] <terry> zykotick9, : yup.....had a prob with the boot sect. -----it was hidden ---did a "dd" to clear it......now I think I am missing at least another 200 gb
[02:12] <terry> zykotick9, :  laptop is a Dell........
[02:13] <zykotick9> terry: sorry, i got nothin'.  good luck.
[02:13] <nightdemon666> capable, im gonna look up watching youtube vids on totem on ubuntu 14.04
[02:13] <capable> k
[02:13] <nightdemon666> please help if you can, thanks
[02:13] <terry> zykotick9, : hang on .... let me use the last command you gave......hang on
[02:13] <capable> don't use totem, sorry
[02:13] <totem> but...
[02:14] <totem> i use totem for years
[02:14] <capable> heh
[02:14] <zacwalls> every time i do the disk start-up app on pc i get this error. what can i do to fix it?
[02:14] <terry> zykotick9, :  nope only showing 160 gb.........why did windows show 360 ???
[02:14] <capable> zacwalls: /var/log/
[02:15] <zacwalls> ? command?
[02:15] <capable> terry: you probably have two disks pretending to be one
[02:15] <capable> terry: check your BIOS already
[02:15] <capable> or one disk pretending to be two =P
[02:15] <terry> capable, : how do i find out for sure?
[02:16] <capable> terry: you reboot into your BIOS options...
[02:16] <capable> and you look for weird things that mention 'sata' or 'raid'
[02:16] <capable> and you flip them
[02:16] <zacwalls> capable, how do i get to the directory?
[02:17] <terry> I know I have a raid
[02:17] <capable> zacwalls: cd /var/log/
[02:17] <capable> zacwalls: nautilus /var/log/
[02:17] <capable> zacwalls: ls /var/log/
[02:17] <capable> zacwalls: grep -i error /var/log/*
[02:17] <zacwalls> capable, im a noob btw
[02:19] <zacwalls> capable, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7966343/
[02:19] <capable> zacwalls: that's bad
[02:19] <capable> zacwalls: but /dev/sr0 is probably your cd/dvd drive
[02:20] <capable> so it's probably not a big deal
[02:20] <zacwalls> i know that for once. what is the problem capable? do you know?
[02:20] <capable> zacwalls: does the cd/dvd drive work as expected?
[02:20] <zacwalls> yes id dose capable
[02:21] <jasabella> what does 'sr' stand for anyways?
[02:21] <zacwalls> capable, yes
[02:22] <daftykins> jasabella: apparently, SCSI read
[02:22] <jasabella> hmm
[02:23] <zacwalls> capable, am i screwed?
[02:23] <xfunex> hello everyone!
[02:25] <zacwalls> hello???
[02:25] <daftykins> ?
[02:26] <zhaojh> what's the topic
[02:26] <daftykins> zhaojh: ubuntu support questions only.
[02:26] <xfunex> Hello from South America jaj
[02:26] <capable> 'lo
[02:26] <xfunex> ok
[02:26] <zacwalls> i havz some trouble doing a fresh install of 14.04
[02:26] <capable> zacwalls: if it works it works
[02:26] <capable> zacwalls: go about your day
[02:26] <daftykins> zacwalls: if you want to use discs, maybe the one you have in is scratched. oh you're trying to install from DVD?
[02:26] <capable> zacwalls: if it ain't broke, it ain't broke
[02:27] <zacwalls> ? i dont know what you mean?
[02:27] <zacwalls> and im using a usb
[02:27] <capable> zacwalls: what's the problem?
[02:27] <daftykins> so take the disc out.
[02:27] <zacwalls> im using a usb
[02:27] <capable> zacwalls: if sr0 is your usb stick, and you're getting i/o errors...
[02:27] <capable> zacwalls: it could have died, or
[02:27] <capable> zacwalls: you might just want to push it into the port better, or try another port
[02:27] <zacwalls> okay
[02:28] <zacwalls> thats 40 minuets of my life gone. :)
[02:28] <capable> don't worry
[02:28] <capable> there're a lot more minutes you'll kill
[02:28] <capable> and then death =)
[02:28] <xfunex> jajaja
[02:29] <terry> have a qestion[02:29] <capable> terry: you have two drives
[02:29] <capable> or one pretending to be two
[02:29] <capable> you don't listen =)
[02:30] <daftykins> xfunex: ask a question or leave please
[02:30] <terry> Capable: so why is only one showing
[02:30] <capable> terry: I already told you
[02:30] <Beldar> terry, because your special.
[02:31] <capable> it's a very fancy (but not necessarily reliable) preinstalled backup system for windows users who can't be trusted to make their own backup system
[02:31] <terry> ok....but i have no access to the "other" drive     this is a laptop
[02:31] <capable> terry: sure you have
[02:31] <terry> capable, :  how????
[02:31] <capable> already said
[02:32] <terry> capable, : sorry  I dont understand....and dont have the language I guess?????
[02:35] <capable> terry: reboot, go into BIOS prefs
[02:36] <capable> terry: find the thing about sata or raid and look at it
[02:36] <capable> it will probably be obvious
[02:53] <d010> ...
[02:53] <mshadle> hey there, i have an ubuntu 14.04 server and additional static IPs don't work. any ideas? i have tried using shorthand /24 syntax, i have also tried using IP aliases
[02:54] <daftykins> mshadle: 'additional' ?
[02:56] <cal3spain> evening
[02:58] <Sikod> Thank you Capable, finally work with ExQuilla addon for Thunderbird :)
[02:58] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know when the ubuntu phone will come out?
[02:58] <ObrienDave> !ready
[02:58] <ObrienDave> drat
[03:00] <daftykins> !touch | mojtaba
[03:00] <daftykins> mojtaba: you should know better by now than to ask unrelated things in here.
[03:00] <mojtaba> daftykins: :)
[03:00] <Loshki> daftykins: I assume mshadle means "alias" interfaces. man ifconfig talks about them...
[03:01] <daftykins> Loshki: sure, multi-homed hosts and all... but assuming makes an ass out of u and me, thus we ask first.
[03:03] <aguitel> i am under windows 8 ,how make usb ubuntu booteable?
[03:04] <mshadle> daftykins: yeah, i have a single static IP, and i want to add more
[03:04] <Eric^^> aguitel: use lili, linux live usb creator
[03:04] <aguitel> unetbootin ? rufus?
[03:04] <daftykins> mshadle: as in from your ISP?
[03:04] <skypce> guys
[03:04] <skypce> Requested 'gtk+-3.0 >= 3.13.1' but version of GTK+ is 3.10.8
[03:04] <skypce> ???
[03:04] <aguitel> lili run under windows ?
[03:04] <Goose_slapper> Is your system efi?
[03:04] <mshadle> daftykins: yes on my server
[03:05] <aguitel> my system is efi
[03:05] <daftykins> mshadle: what kind of server? one running at home directly connected to a cable modem, or?
[03:05] <Eric^^> aguitel: yeah
[03:05] <mshadle> daftykins: it's a virtualized server on linode. i'm supposed to be able to add IPs simple as LAN
[03:06] <alfonsojon> Hi, how can I push my OpenPGP key fingerprint to the Ubuntu keyserver through the terminal?
[03:06] <Goose_slapper> how did you install it? If you used unetbootin, it may not work correctly with EFI iirc
[03:06] <daftykins> mshadle: right, i'm pretty sure they offer FAQs on the matter
[03:06] <aguitel> Eric^^it support efi mode?
[03:06] <Eric^^> aguitel: yes.
[03:06] <daftykins> mshadle: look up multi-homed hosts if not.
[03:06] <mshadle> daftykins: they do, i followed it, no dice. guess i will just ask support
[03:06] <zacwalls> okay i did the disk startup thing and now i can run ubuntu? how? capable ?
[03:06] <mshadle> seemed simple enough though
[03:06] <Goose_slapper> try downloading dd for windows
[03:07] <Eric^^> Goose_slapper: stfu already.
[03:07] <Eric^^> :)
[03:07] <Goose_slapper> :D
[03:07] <zacwalls> ubuntu says broken link
[03:07] <aguitel> Eric^^ need to format the penndrive before?
[03:08] <Eric^^> aguitel: depends, sometimes it's not necessary
[03:08] <alfonsojon> DD for windows sounds spooky
[03:08] <Goose_slapper> it is
[03:08] <alfonsojon> I would trust it with nothing
[03:08] <alfonsojon> unless I feel like breaking a flash drive
[03:09] <Goose_slapper> unetbootin doesnt work with GPT tables
[03:10] <zacwalls> how do i install ubuntu 14.04?
[03:11] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, d/l, burn to USB or DVD, reboot, install
[03:11] <daftykins> zacwalls: beginning to think you're a troll, you've been as far as saying you have it on USB and you're booted into it, now you're asking how? :|
[03:11] <zacwalls> ? noob here, sorry can you explain?
[03:11] <sydney> zacwalls: do what it says :P
[03:11] <dmferrari> hey guys!
[03:12] <zacwalls> it says many things
[03:12] <dmferrari> does anybody use xfce here?
[03:12] <sydney> zacwalls: click on 'install ubuntu 14.04'
[03:12] <ObrienDave> dmferrari, yes
[03:12] <zacwalls> it says broken link
[03:12] <dmferrari> is it possible to add a shadow to the top pannel?
[03:12] <daftykins> dmferrari: best to ask the *actual* question
[03:12] <sydney> zacwalls:on flashdrive or cd?
[03:13] <aguitel> Eric^^ ubuntu and kubuntu run under touch screen laptop?
[03:13] <zacwalls> flash
[03:13] <ObrienDave> dmferrari, no clue
[03:13] <Eric^^> aguitel: no idea
[03:13] <dmferrari> thank you Dave
[03:13] <dmferrari> anyone else?
[03:13] <sydney> zacwalls: try reinstalling the iso on the flashdrive.
[03:14] <Goose_slapper> wait, you said the link is broken?
[03:14] <zacwalls> why? to lose another 90 minuets of my life?
[03:14] <zacwalls> and yes
[03:15] <Goose_slapper> when you click the installer? or am i missing something
[03:15] <zacwalls> yes
[03:15] <Eric^^> zacwalls: 90 minutes? O.o
[03:15] <zacwalls> it says install
[03:15] <Goose_slapper> right click the installer and see where the links too
[03:15] <zacwalls> and yes, something like 90
[03:15] <zacwalls> okay
[03:15] <daftykins> Goose_slapper: if you're trying to recommend WUBI, stop right now.
[03:15] <c00kie> daftykins I'm watching you......
[03:16] <Goose_slapper> im not
[03:16] <daftykins> one does not 'click' an installer
[03:16] <c00kie> daftykins I'm watching you......
[03:16] <Eric^^> zacwalls: is there a hamster running in your box or something? it takes 5mins to put it on a usb
[03:16] <alfonsojon> he's advising, not recommending
[03:16] <alfonsojon> heh
[03:16] <yggdrasil> can anyone help me boot an older macbook pro to ubuntu
[03:16] <Goose_slapper> He said the link is broken, im seeing what its linking too
[03:16] <yggdrasil> it refuses to boot of a cd
[03:16] <daftykins> yggdrasil: define 'older'
[03:16] <yggdrasil> or dvd..
[03:16] <c00kie> daftykins I'm watching you......
[03:16] <yggdrasil> macbookpro core 2 duo 2.0 ghz
[03:17] <zacwalls> Goose_slapper it says ubuntu
[03:17] <yggdrasil> i dont have much other information
[03:17] <zacwalls> and thats where the link is broken
[03:17] <yggdrasil> well i lie... OBS,MACBOOK PRO (15-INCH GLOSSY)
[03:17] <zacwalls> install has like a bunch of stuff
[03:17] <yggdrasil> thats what came back in the serial number search.
[03:18] <yggdrasil> refueses to boot from an external usb dvd drive that is known good.
[03:18] <yggdrasil> and the internal is messed up.
[03:18] <yggdrasil> usb wont boot either..
[03:18] <yggdrasil> alt only shows local disk
[03:18] <daftykins> yggdrasil: yeah macs don't necessarily do that. USB flash drive it is
[03:18] <c00kie> daftykins I'm watching you......
[03:18] <daftykins> !ops | c00kie
[03:18] <c00kie> daftykins I'm watching you......
[03:18] <zacwalls> install has a file called mt86plus
[03:18] <yggdrasil> even that refuses to boot.
[03:19] <zacwalls> hello?
[03:19] <Beldar> yggdrasil, You have seen the mac wiki?
[03:19]  * rww looks up
[03:20] <Eric^^> zacwalls: checksum the iso
[03:20] <zacwalls> ?
[03:20] <zacwalls> noob=me
[03:20] <Eric^^> !checksum > zacwalls
[03:21] <alfonsojon> oh boy
[03:21] <yggdrasil> bel
[03:21] <yggdrasil> Beldar: no.
[03:21] <zacwalls> i dont understand
[03:21] <yggdrasil> im goitn to attempt tomake a usb booter.
[03:21] <daftykins> yggdrasil: you are getting the mac ISO yes?
[03:21] <daftykins> 64-bit only
[03:21] <yggdrasil> from my xp box since my wife stole my laptop. .which is why im trying to fix this
[03:22] <yggdrasil> daftykins: yes mac iso
[03:22] <yggdrasil> burned it.
[03:22] <Beldar> zacwalls, complaints of loosing your life minutes are a waste of time, get a OS that is plug and play, this is linux the desktop user base is tiny comparatively and you just have ton have some experience for efficiency
[03:22] <yggdrasil> must be external usb thing...
[03:22] <daftykins> yggdrasil: yes that wouldn't work, surprised you didn't find info online to say no
[03:22] <yggdrasil> ill see if i can make a decent usb boot .. although i have tried it in the past with no luck.
[03:22] <brokenbox> can someone help tshoot an nfs problem on ubuntu 14.04? I dont see anything on the server side log at all, and the client says "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <host>:<dir>"
[03:22] <yggdrasil> givem e thi link please
[03:22] <Beldar> !mac | yggdrasil
[03:22] <daftykins> yggdrasil: use diskpart to run a 'clean' on the USB flash drive, then format for FAT32, then create the ISO
[03:22] <daftykins> s/create/dump/
[03:23] <zacwalls> i just want to install ubuntu for the love of cows!!!
[03:23] <yggdrasil> ok
[03:23] <alfonsojon> Kubuntu runs beautifully on my Power Mac G4 :)
[03:23] <yggdrasil> thanks.
[03:23] <daftykins> zacwalls: == troll
[03:23] <alfonsojon> Not officially supported, but hey.
[03:23] <yggdrasil>                 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[03:23] <Goose_slapper> Hes just slow... i dont think hes a troll
[03:23] <phunyguy> can we not call people trolls, please?
[03:23] <zacwalls> im 13 and inexperienced
[03:23] <zacwalls> --__--
[03:24] <Beldar> yggdrasil, get used to prefacing with the nick whom you address and try to not hit the enter so often, keep it in single posts and detailed, this is not twitter.
[03:24] <yggdrasil> ehm indeed.
[03:24] <daftykins> phunyguy: i'll do whatever i want to highlight potential timewasters to other helpers.
[03:24] <phunyguy> settle down.
[03:24] <zacwalls> im not getting help am i
[03:25] <IdleOne> daftykins: you can do whatever you want to within the established guidelines
[03:25] <Beldar> !patience | zacwalls
[03:25] <zacwalls> yes i have had that talk before
[03:26] <Beldar> zacwalls, Not a talk, just understand when people know they generally answer. ;)
[03:26] <Beldar> free help has it's cost in time
[03:26] <zacwalls> so im screwed?
[03:26] <phunyguy> yep, this is a support community with all volunteers.
[03:26] <phunyguy> errr that was not a yep to you being screwed
[03:26] <phunyguy> bad timing
[03:27] <phunyguy> you aren't screwed, you just need to be patient.
[03:27] <Beldar> zacwalls, At 13 the world may seem black or white it's not.
[03:27] <Goose_slapper> zacwalls: press Ctrl+ALT+T to open terminal
[03:27] <Goose_slapper> then cd to Desktop
[03:27] <zacwalls> okay
[03:27] <zacwalls> how
[03:27] <cal3spain_> lol
[03:27] <WACOMalt> hey folks. why is the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teward/znc" not working for me?
[03:27] <Goose_slapper> cd means change directior, its a command
[03:27] <WACOMalt> says command not found
[03:28] <phunyguy> WACOMalt: which version of ubuntu
[03:28] <zacwalls> how
[03:28] <WACOMalt> 14.04
[03:28] <Beldar> WACOMalt, check the ppa's web page
[03:28] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, cd ~/Desktop
[03:28] <Goose_slapper> ^^
[03:28] <zacwalls> okay now what
[03:29] <Goose_slapper> readlink install
[03:29] <phunyguy> WACOMalt: sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
[03:29] <phunyguy> then you will have that command
[03:29] <zacwalls> how
[03:29] <WACOMalt> ah ok. thank you
[03:29] <Goose_slapper> zacwalls: In terminal type: readlink install
[03:29] <zacwalls> i did
[03:30] <zacwalls> do i need sudo?
[03:30] <Goose_slapper> what did it output
[03:30] <Goose_slapper> no
[03:30] <zacwalls> no command
[03:30] <zacwalls> found
[03:30] <Goose_slapper> what is the install file called again?
[03:30] <WACOMalt> hmm. I'm running as sudo, but getting this? WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:31] <zacwalls> its install
[03:31] <zacwalls> :)
[03:31] <Goose_slapper> hrmm so it seems to be linking to nothing then.. Anyone know the link the the install script?
[03:31] <Goose_slapper> path, that is
[03:31] <yggdrasil> daftykins: you think rufus will work ok ?
[03:32] <phunyguy> WACOMalt: strange
[03:32] <WACOMalt> the file exists, I just checked
[03:32] <zacwalls> ubuntu is the file and it says it has no link
[03:32] <phunyguy> WACOMalt: is this on a VPS or anything?
[03:32] <WACOMalt> a dedicated server, yes
[03:32] <WACOMalt> never had an issue adding ppas before
[03:32] <daftykins> yggdrasil: if creating from Windows, universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com
[03:32] <phunyguy> errr....  maybe the provider locks that out?
[03:32] <Eric^^> !aptlock | WACOMalt
[03:32] <phunyguy> hmmm
[03:32] <phunyguy> ahh is it a lock?
[03:32] <Goose_slapper> zacwalls: the file is named ubuntu?
[03:33] <yggdrasil> thank you.
[03:33] <zacwalls> yes
[03:33] <null0x08> zacwalls NOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!!
[03:33] <zacwalls> yes
[03:33] <null0x08> zacwalls NOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!!
[03:33] <zacwalls> i am
[03:33] <null0x08> zacwalls NOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!!
[03:33] <phunyguy> null0x08: please don't do that
[03:33] <Goose_slapper> then show me the output
[03:33] <phunyguy> sorry about that
[03:33] <IdleOne> hehe
[03:33] <zacwalls> for what
[03:33] <WACOMalt> hmm, those commands returned nothing, but still seems to be locked (if it is indeed a lock)
[03:33] <phunyguy> he left too quick and my alias failed.
[03:33] <Goose_slapper> the command: ls
[03:34] <phunyguy> (again)
[03:34] <Eric^^> WACOMalt: do you have any terminals running anything software/apt-get related?
[03:34] <zacwalls> okay
[03:34] <WACOMalt> Eric^^, nope
[03:34] <Eric^^> WACOMalt: software-center ?
[03:34] <Goose_slapper> zacwalls: the output?
[03:34] <linuxuz3r> a
[03:34] <WACOMalt> Eric^^, this is headless, so nope
[03:34] <zacwalls> Dota 2.desktop  Team Fortress 2.desktop
[03:35] <Goose_slapper> ..
[03:35] <zacwalls> lol
[03:35] <zacwalls> there games
[03:35] <zacwalls> i have it on a stick
[03:35] <zacwalls> the ubuntu iso
[03:36] <WACOMalt> Eric^^, should I be worried about the top of this file though? http://i.imgur.com/12evAyA.png
[03:36] <Eric^^> WACOMalt: is the file there? ls /etc/apt | grep sources.list
[03:36] <WACOMalt> yes there is
[03:36] <WACOMalt> my sources.list.save is much much longer
[03:36] <WACOMalt> ls -l
[03:37] <WACOMalt> whoops, wrong window
[03:37] <sydney> WACOMalt: i do that all the time LOL
[03:37] <sydney> WACOMalt: even with my passowds. :P
[03:37] <zacwalls> what do i do now?
[03:37] <sydney> [asswprds*
[03:38] <WACOMalt> can someone post the text of a fresh ubuntu install's sources.list?
[03:38] <zacwalls> that would be awesome
[03:38] <phunyguy> in a pastebin*
[03:38] <phunyguy> !paste
[03:39] <ObrienDave> WACOMalt, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[03:39] <Beldar> WACOMalt, You can make one here. ^^^^^
[03:39] <WACOMalt> I installed zpanel earlier today. hoping it doesnt get messed up by my sources being borked
[03:39] <Beldar> one gold star for ObrienDave
[03:40] <ObrienDave> awwwww *blushes*
[03:40] <operative> i also have a question. Is anyone else experiencing issues with ethernet connections? if so, how did you get passed this please,
[03:40] <Beldar> ;)
[03:40] <WACOMalt> ObrienDave, Beldar is there any way to just choose "default" ?
[03:40] <WACOMalt> I dont know what to check
[03:40] <ObrienDave> operative, what kind of issue?
[03:41] <cfhowlett> operative  ... useless question.  try this... "I'm having THIS problem with THIS issue"  provide details.  the literal answer to your original question is "yes" or "no".
[03:41] <Beldar> WACOMalt, Make a new one and replace it using that sites source builder.
[03:41] <operative> icfhowlett, m not able to connect, only via wireless
[03:41] <zacwalls> how can i use the list
[03:41] <operative> I tried the forums and google for suggestions
[03:41] <WACOMalt> Beldar, I get that. but depending on what I choose this may not be the same as a fresh install's sources
[03:41] <Beldar> WACOMalt, I'm assuming you have not added 3rd parties to it.
[03:41] <WACOMalt> I want whatever the defaults were
[03:42] <zacwalls> im screwed
[03:42] <WACOMalt> I had added btsync, and zpanel
[03:42] <Beldar> WACOMalt, Have you looked at the link?
[03:42] <operative> cfhowlett, I also tried setting the bios incade it was something there
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !network
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !ethernet
[03:42] <WACOMalt> Beldar, unless you sent another? This one has a ton of checkboxes and I dont know what is on by default
[03:42] <operative> yes, i want the ability for wired connection
[03:42] <Beldar> WACOMalt, there are two sources list the one I saw you mention is sources.list.d the default is sources.list
[03:43] <cfhowlett> operative, bios?  set bios back to networking defaults
[03:43] <WACOMalt> is there any way to tell if my sources.list is actually messed up? the only reason I think it is is the squar character at position 3 on the first line. http://i.imgur.com/12evAyA.png
[03:43] <ObrienDave> OMG, people, PLEASE give us a chance to help you instead of asking and playing while waiting for an answer
[03:43] <Beldar> WACOMalt, It is straight forward if you understand how the sources work.
[03:43] <operative> i clicked default and nothing changed. I had hoped it was something I clicked accidentally.
[03:44] <WACOMalt> yes, it is. If you know what repos come enabled in ubuntu by default
[03:44] <WACOMalt> which I dont.
[03:44] <zacwalls> im not getting help i just want to clarify.
[03:44] <WACOMalt> for example. should I choose Backports? is that on by default in ubuntu?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> operative, got it.  has the ethernet ever worked under ubuntu?
[03:44] <WACOMalt> Universe? no idea
[03:44] <Beldar> WACOMalt, who's fault is that? And why should we care? We will help if you can understand this.
[03:45] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, backports are not on by default nor are restricted.  universe .. of course
[03:45] <WACOMalt> whos fault is the fact that no one can tell me what comes enabled by default?
[03:45] <operative> It has not. I did a fresh install of the newest and it did not change. It is fine on this pc but, not on the new one
[03:45] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, let's not get all offtrack --- chillax and wait for an answer
[03:45] <Beldar> WACOMalt, lo your are impossible to work with in a functional manner.
[03:45] <yggdrasil> i would say linus torvald
[03:45] <cfhowlett> operative, did you run a live session?  did ethernet work under live session?
[03:45] <Beldar> !ot | yggdrasil
[03:46] <yggdrasil> he asked the question :)
[03:46] <operative> cfhowlett, how do I do that?
[03:46] <WACOMalt> I'm chilled. I just dont get how I'm supposed to know what, on a normal install of ubuntu, would be included in the sources. Yes I can pick what I want, but will that be stock? no.  Thanks all for helping I just feel like I'm missing something or you guys dont understand what I'm asking.
[03:46] <zacwalls> http://imgur.com/N16TPj5
[03:46] <cfhowlett> operative, boot ubuntu from your USB  and test the ethernet. if it works there, it's *merely* a matter of configuring
[03:46] <zacwalls> what dose that mean?
[03:46] <yggdrasil> WACOMalt: why dont you just install the server. its minimal.
[03:47] <operative> ok. Thanks, I will go try that.
[03:47] <WACOMalt> Well, that's what I'm in
[03:47] <WACOMalt> is there a preset on this page for "select packages that would come enabled by default in ubuntu server" ?
[03:47] <WACOMalt> s/packages/repos
[03:48] <yggdrasil> jsut do dpkg --list
[03:48] <yggdrasil> or something
[03:48] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, for more informed advice, ask the #ubuntu-server channel
[03:48] <yggdrasil> there is a dpkg to show install packages.
[03:48] <WACOMalt> sorry, I meant repos, not packages
[03:49] <WACOMalt> I'll... stop bugging you guys. sorry for being lost. I'll check #ubuntu-server
[03:49] <yggdrasil> daftykins: still not showing .. after having created it with pendrive... and booting with alt.
[03:49] <daftykins> yggdrasil: after inserting during power off? every single USB port?
[03:50] <yggdrasil> let me try other ports
[03:50] <yggdrasil> its only got 2
[03:51] <yggdrasil> yes sir, only show the internal hdd
[03:51] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, it means you've used wubi to run Ubuntu under Windows. oh the shame
[03:52] <zacwalls> what how i dont understand
[03:52] <cal3spain_> not good
[03:52] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, wubi?  really?  bad zacwalls.  BAD!
[03:52] <alfonsojon> Hi.
[03:52] <alfonsojon> QT apps look ugly (unthemed), is there a package I need to install to fix it?
[03:53] <cal3spain_> hello alfonsojon
[03:53] <zacwalls> i need help
[03:53] <zacwalls> i have been asking
[03:53] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: What is your problem?
[03:53] <zacwalls> for hrs
[03:53] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, if you're trying to install 14.04 using the "windows" installer, you're going to have a bad time.  AND it's no longer supported.  So.  WHEN it breaks, it's broke.  No amount of ranting, crying, or cursing will help you.  Reinstall WITHOUT wubi.
[03:53] <zacwalls> how
[03:53] <alfonsojon> What on earth did I miss
[03:53] <alfonsojon> ._.
[03:54] <cal3spain_> he needs a reinstall and wipe windows. lol. then run virtual machines if windows is needed.
[03:54] <Thyrth> hello
[03:54] <WACOMalt> well, thank you ObrienDave, and Beldar. I did wind up figureing out which sources were originally included in my sources.list since mine wasnt completely ruined to begin with. So thank you. I appologize for my confusion.
[03:54] <zacwalls> i dont have windows
[03:54] <alfonsojon> QT apps look ugly (unthemed), is there a package I need to install to fix it?
[03:54] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, then how did you get wubi.exe on your system?
[03:55] <zacwalls> wine
[03:55] <ObrienDave> double death ;P
[03:55] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:55] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:55] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:55] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:55] <thyrth> What some good apps on Ubuntu ? I'm new to it
[03:55] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <cal3spain_> wipe and flush wubi like now
[03:56] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, wine?!  OK, color me thoroughly confused.
[03:56] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <MeanderingCode> does anyone have an idea how to troubleshoot mime-support's "update-mime" (run in postinst and otherwise) and/or desktop-file-utils "update-desktop-database" from eating all ram+swap and crashing?
[03:56] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <alfonsojon> !ops | laughingatya
[03:56] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <laughingatya> phunyguy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :)
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !ops | laughingatya,
[03:56] <zacwalls> im just as you are
[03:56] <yggdrasil> daftykins: i believe that i want to compeltely wipe this aplle drive. goingo mount as target and wipe the mbro on it.
[03:56] <daftykins> yggdrasil: very bad move.
[03:56] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, wait, you installed wine, then windows to install wubi for Ubuntu?
[03:56] <MeanderingCode> does anyone have an idea how to troubleshoot mime-support's "update-mime" (run in postinst and otherwise) and/or desktop-file-utils "update-desktop-database" from eating all ram+swap and crashing?
[03:56] <MeanderingCode> ah, sry
[03:57] <MeanderingCode> *for the double send
[03:57] <daftykins> yggdrasil: are you saying you got further though?
[03:57] <yggdrasil> daftykins: this drive is crashed.
[03:57] <daftykins> 'crashed' ?
[03:57] <yggdrasil> daftykins: no no further.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, stop IRC.  Start your word processor.  Type up IN DETAIL what you're trying to accomplish, what you've done, any error messages.  Put it in a paste.  come back and paste that message with your support question.
[03:57] <yggdrasil> mac osx is damaged and fdisk in macos wont run.. unable to repair.
[03:57] <zacwalls> NO I HAVE XUBUNTU 12.04
[03:57] <cfhowlett> !paste | zacwalls
[03:57] <WACOMalt> I installed virtualbox, then installed ubuntu in it. installed another VM inside of ubuntu to run windows in, so I could put wubi on it, boot ubuntu from it and run my windows apps through wine on that ubuntu.  :|
[03:57] <yggdrasil> daftykins: on top of that i have no desire to run mac osx.
[03:58] <capable> yggdrasil: sure you can't replace the drive?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, wubi is a dead project.  DEAD.
[03:58] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Alright, I'll try to help you out. Can you explain your problem in an easy summary?
[03:58] <zacwalls> probaly not
[03:58] <yggdrasil> i know that a reinstall will detect the bad blocks.
[03:58] <WACOMalt> I know. it was a joke epitomizing the absurdity of this situation :)
[03:58] <zacwalls> but i try
[03:58] <alfonsojon> I saw the screenshot from above and you appear to be using Ubuntu 12.04, with a broken install
[03:58] <alfonsojon> Your sources.list is corrupted as well
[03:58] <daftykins> yggdrasil: so the disk has bad sectors?
[03:58] <alfonsojon> or removed
[03:58] <zacwalls> i use the ubuntu desktop
[03:58] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, and that's why I suggested you get off IRC and type it up.
[03:58] <yggdrasil> brb gonna find my firewire card.
[03:58] <cal3spain_> lol WACOMalt
[03:58] <yggdrasil> daftykins: most likely.
[03:58] <ObrienDave> WACOMalt, +1
[03:59] <WACOMalt> goodnight gentlemen/ladies I appreciate the guidance.
[03:59] <zacwalls> i installed it from ubuntu.com
[03:59] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Did you burn it to a DVD or write it to a flash drive to install?
[03:59] <zacwalls> flash
[03:59]  * cfhowlett suspects trolling ... observes carefully
[03:59] <alfonsojon> Alright, using what software?
[04:00] <zacwalls> startup disk creator
[04:00] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, we've been watching carefully also
[04:00] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Alright.
[04:00] <zacwalls> i am not a troll
[04:00] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, ty
[04:00] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: and what is your current problem? sources.list busted?
[04:01] <zacwalls> it is set at freegeek.com because thats where i got it.
[04:01] <zacwalls> the pc
[04:01] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Alright, and what country do you live in?
[04:02] <zacwalls> us
[04:02] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, "it" is a freegeek.com?  WHAT is at freegeek.com?
[04:02] <Beldar> the ignore is for trolls here
[04:02] <thyrth> I'm lookin for good sources for apps
[04:02] <alfonsojon> Alright, zacwalls, can you open a terminal?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> thyrth, ubuntu software center
[04:02] <Beldar> and mindless fools
[04:02] <capable> thyrth: hrmm?
[04:02] <zacwalls> it is freegeek.org my bad
[04:02] <zacwalls> yes i can
[04:03] <zacwalls> term is open
[04:03] <capable> Beldar: speaking of trolls
[04:03] <alfonsojon> Open a terminal, and type "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:03] <thyrth> but is the ubuntu software updated ?
[04:03] <alfonsojon> It will ask for your password.
[04:03] <cfhowlett> thyrth, yes
[04:03] <alfonsojon> Let me know when that is open
[04:03] <tac_> Why might this happen: I sudo apt-get install libzmq3-dev
[04:03] <tac_> but when I use pkg-config, I see the version installed is 4.0.4
[04:04] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7966936/
[04:04] <Beldar> tac_, You get what is in the repos, can you be clear in this?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> tac_, because that's the version in the repo.  Want something else?  compile it from source.
[04:05] <zacwalls> it is open
[04:05] <tac_> that seems like the package is broken
[04:05] <Beldar> capable, I have helped 1000's here and on the ubuntu forums you are a new user, you have no clue.
[04:06] <alfonsojon> Alright, paste the contents from here in there
[04:06] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: http://hastebin.com/efazarurup.coffee
[04:06] <cfhowlett> tac_, ??? no that's the package currently in the repo.
[04:06] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7966936/
[04:06] <alfonsojon> Make sure to close Ubuntu Software Center and other related windows (like the sources.list config window) before you do that
[04:06] <zacwalls> there you go
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <Beldar> capable,I'm a regular your are new.
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <alfonsojon> !ops catchmeifyoucan
[04:06] <catchmeifyoucan> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:06] <unopaste> catchmeifyoucan you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:06] <zacwalls> lol
[04:06] <tac_> I could understand if I installed the package libzmq... but if I ask for libzmq3, I shouldn't get version 4.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !ops | catchmeifyoucan, idiot alert
[04:06] <capable> Beldar: I really am not =) but that's a cute defense for being quite rude
[04:07] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Visit this link and copy the contents into the text editor, replacing what is already there: http://hastebin.com/efazarurup.coffee
[04:07] <cfhowlett> tac_, again .. what's in the repo is what you get when you install from the repo.  Why would you expect it to be something different?
[04:07] <alfonsojon> Let me know when you do that.
[04:07] <Beldar> capable, being straight forward and rude overlap in some minds.
[04:07] <capable> not mine =)
[04:07] <capable> anyways
[04:08]  * alfonsojon thinks #ubuntu is in defcon-5 cluster**** mode
[04:08]  * cfhowlett wonders how freegeek.org entered into that source list ...
[04:08] <capable> alfonsojon: =)
[04:08] <Beldar> look in the mirror rather than pointing capable
[04:08] <zacwalls> what alfonsojon?
[04:08] <alfonsojon> Visit this page: http://hastebin.com/efazarurup.coffee
[04:08] <capable> Beldar: mmhmm
[04:08] <zacwalls> and what?
[04:08] <alfonsojon> Copy the text on that page and paste it into the text editor
[04:08] <alfonsojon> Replacing what is already there
[04:08] <alfonsojon> Then save it
[04:08] <zacwalls> okay the one i opend via terminal?
[04:09] <cal3spain_> yep
[04:09] <alfonsojon> Yep
[04:09] <alfonsojon> Let me know when you're done with that
[04:09] <zacwalls> i am
[04:09] <zacwalls> nvm
[04:09] <Beldar> capable, your rhetoric and cognition is teen stuff so back where you belong ignore.
[04:09] <zacwalls> done
[04:09] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:09] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:09] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:09] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:09] <alfonsojon> Click the save button
[04:09] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:10] <alfonsojon> !ops
[04:10] <youcandoit> phunyguy you gotta try harder then that!!!:(
[04:10] <unopaste> youcandoit you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:10] <phunyguy> lets stop hitting the ops trigger please.  We are aware
[04:10] <alfonsojon> Alright, sorry
[04:10] <zykotick9> alfonsojon: fyi defcon-5 is the lowest level (everything is fine) see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defcon
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !ops please ban his url/isp/dna
[04:10] <capable> Beldar: I can't wait
[04:10] <alfonsojon> zykotick9: whoops, meant defcon-1
[04:10] <daftykins> hmm, single ban appears to be defeating the ops.
[04:10] <ObrienDave> !ot | capable
[04:10] <Beldar> hit the registered only button
[04:11] <capable> ObrienDave: sup obrien
[04:11] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: did you click save?
[04:11] <zacwalls> i am done
[04:11] <zacwalls> no
[04:11] <alfonsojon> alright, great, now close that
[04:11] <alfonsojon> oh
[04:11] <alfonsojon> make sure to save, then close gedit
[04:11] <zacwalls> save as?
[04:11] <alfonsojon> No, just save
[04:11] <alfonsojon> CTRL + S
[04:12] <phunyguy> alright, so for the time being, you need to be registered to join #ubuntu
[04:12] <Beldar> ;)
[04:12] <alfonsojon> phunyguy: Thank you.
[04:12] <zacwalls> done
[04:12] <ObrienDave> \o/
[04:12] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Now go back to the terminal window, and type "sudo apt-get update" without the quotes
[04:12] <alfonsojon> hit enter, then let me know when that finishes up.
[04:13] <zacwalls> okay
[04:13] <zacwalls> i have like 60 updates
[04:13] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: We're getting there
[04:13] <zacwalls> it done
[04:13] <alfonsojon> alright, now run this command
[04:13] <zacwalls> You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:13] <alfonsojon> Oh
[04:13] <alfonsojon> What errors?
[04:14] <alfonsojon> Put it in a pastebin.
[04:14] <zacwalls> idk
[04:14] <zacwalls> it was a warning
[04:14] <alfonsojon> anything suspicious looking?
[04:14] <zacwalls> idk i dont think so
[04:15] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7967007/
[04:15] <alfonsojon> Huh.
[04:15] <alfonsojon> That doesn't look bad.
[04:15] <zacwalls> idk ether
[04:15] <alfonsojon> It's nothing that will break anything, I'll get to that later
[04:16] <zacwalls> okay
[04:16] <zacwalls> now what?
[04:16] <alfonsojon> Now close everything but your IRC chat and run this command
[04:16] <alfonsojon> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:16] <capable> shouldn't have to close anything
[04:16] <alfonsojon> capable: precautions :P
[04:16] <zacwalls> okay
[04:16] <cal3spain_> yeh
[04:16] <daftykins> don't second guess helpers in motion, it's not helping.
[04:16] <alfonsojon> capable: I don't want something interfering
[04:16] <alfonsojon> Alright, now is apt warning you about anything?
[04:17] <zacwalls> no
[04:17] <capable> what would interfere?
[04:17] <alfonsojon> alright, then you should be able to hit "y" and hit enter
[04:17] <alfonsojon> capable: not helping
[04:17] <Beldar> daftykins, about the most irritating part of helping. ;)
[04:17] <zacwalls> yes alredy did
[04:17] <capable> alfonsojon: you aren't helping me, no
[04:17] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Fantastic.
[04:17] <zacwalls> good
[04:17] <daftykins> Beldar: indeed
[04:17] <alfonsojon> Let me know when the update completes
[04:17] <zacwalls> okay
[04:18] <Beldar> the users or others chiming in with no reality
[04:18] <capable> heh
[04:18] <capable> I know this one time I didn't close all my windows before an update
[04:18] <capable> and it all broke
[04:19] <daftykins> capable: that's a nice story, please share any further ones in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[04:19] <zacwalls> thats how my friend crash my stuff once
[04:19] <capable> it is kind of a nice story
[04:19] <capable> but I made it up
[04:19] <ObrienDave> capable, you are not helping the situation
[04:19] <capable> 'cause there's no reason to close all your windows before an update
[04:19] <zacwalls> adding u to friends
[04:19] <zacwalls> :)
[04:19] <capable> =)
[04:20] <daftykins> there is a reason.
[04:20] <capable> yeah I bet
[04:20] <zacwalls> lol
[04:21] <cal3spain_> lmao
[04:21] <friendlyfascism> oops I meant
[04:21] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Is the update complete?
[04:21] <zacwalls> no
[04:21] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[04:21] <capable> friendlyfascism: ?
[04:22] <zacwalls> done
[04:22] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: fantastic.
[04:22] <zacwalls> now what?
[04:23] <alfonsojon> alright, now type "cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d", followed by "ls"
[04:23] <alfonsojon> paste the output of "ls" in a pastebin
[04:23] <zacwalls> okay
[04:24] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7967066/
[04:24] <zacwalls> there you go
[04:25] <alfonsojon> alright, do you have any special software installed from the freegeek people ( the people you got the laptop from )?
[04:25] <zacwalls> pc and idk freegeek manual
[04:25] <alfonsojon> alright
[04:27] <zacwalls> now what?
[04:27] <alfonsojon> Can you run "sudo apt-get clean" now?
[04:27] <zacwalls> yes
[04:27] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, please allow your helper to respond before asking "now what?"
[04:27] <zacwalls> done
[04:27] <alfonsojon> did it output anything or was it silent?
[04:27] <zacwalls> silent
[04:28] <alfonsojon> alright, now try sudo apt-get check
[04:28] <alfonsojon> let me know if any errors come up
[04:28] <zacwalls> okay
[04:28] <zacwalls> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:29] <zacwalls> that was an error
[04:29] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, is that all that is said?
[04:29] <ObrienDave> *it said
[04:29] <zacwalls> no there was alot of output
[04:30] <zacwalls> and someone grammar police :)
[04:30] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Try this one now
[04:30] <daftykins> correcting his own typo. literate people do this.
[04:30] <zacwalls> okay
[04:31] <zacwalls> i know
[04:31] <alfonsojon> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[04:31] <zacwalls> okay
[04:31]  * ObrienDave SMH and walks away
[04:32] <alfonsojon> ObrienDave: No worries, you're not the only self-grammar Nazi
[04:32] <zacwalls> okay
[04:32]  * alfonsojon admits his shame
[04:32] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: any errors?
[04:32] <zacwalls> bash: zacwalls: No such file or directory
[04:32] <alfonsojon> eh
[04:32] <alfonsojon> what
[04:32] <zacwalls> idk
[04:32]  * cfhowlett cfhowlett teaches English ... and looks on in silent disapproval
[04:32] <capable> ha =P
[04:32] <alfonsojon> Did it run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[04:33] <zacwalls> no
[04:33] <alfonsojon> Huh.
[04:33] <alfonsojon> Type cd $HOME , then try again
[04:33] <daftykins> alfonsojon: pastebinit would be saving you so much time here
[04:33] <daftykins> :)
[04:33] <zacwalls> great somthing else wrong  i cant figure out
[04:33] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: ?
[04:33] <zacwalls> nvm
[04:34] <alfonsojon> daftykins: how so? whenever there are logs, he pastebins them
[04:34] <alfonsojon> daftykins: unless I write a mini-guide for him
[04:34] <daftykins> for commands run too, so you can see
[04:34] <ObrienDave> alfonsojon, he's not pastebin command output. necessary info, yes?
[04:34] <alfonsojon> ObrienDave: He is, yes.
[04:35] <capable> it's academic, jon knows pastebinit exists
[04:35] <alfonsojon> I prefer hastebin.
[04:35] <zacwalls> okay its all good :)
[04:36] <capable> well the world always needs yet another pastebin script
[04:36] <zacwalls> agreed capable
[04:36] <alfonsojon> hastebin = clean
[04:36] <zacwalls> :)
[04:36] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Is it working now?
[04:36] <zacwalls> it did
[04:37] <alfonsojon> Any errors?
[04:37] <capable> what's hastebin use, wget?
[04:37] <zacwalls> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:37] <zacwalls> that one
[04:37] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: gah
[04:37] <zacwalls> idk
[04:37] <zacwalls> ether
[04:37] <alfonsojon> alright, run this
[04:38] <alfonsojon> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:38] <zacwalls> okay
[04:38] <alfonsojon> paste contents to pastebin of your choice
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> alias p="curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us"; ls | p       is pretty quick
[04:39] <daftykins> "pastebinit file" quicker still ^_^
[04:39] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7967135/
[04:39] <zacwalls> done
[04:39] <gr33n7007h> :)
[04:40] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: There's the problem.
[04:40] <alfonsojon> Erase everything
[04:40] <zacwalls> okay
[04:40] <alfonsojon> Then paste the contents from http://hastebin.com/gavotevude.coffee into there
[04:40] <capable> ah, ruby
[04:41] <zacwalls> save?
[04:41] <alfonsojon> Nope.
[04:41] <alfonsojon> Not yet :P
[04:41] <zacwalls> okay
[04:41] <alfonsojon> Copy the contents of the stuff you pasted in, then pastebin it
[04:41] <alfonsojon> then send it
[04:41] <alfonsojon> just to verify it's all good this time :)
[04:41] <zacwalls> so the stuff u said to delete?
[04:42] <alfonsojon> No
[04:42] <alfonsojon> Just the new contents
[04:42] <alfonsojon> now that you've done that, just paste the contents in a pastebin
[04:42] <zacwalls> what?
[04:42] <alfonsojon> Okay, so here's what you did so far
[04:43] <alfonsojon> You opened it, erased everything, then pasted the new stuff in, right?
[04:43] <zacwalls> yes
[04:43] <alfonsojon> Now I want you to copy the new stuff, then put it in a pastebin
[04:43] <alfonsojon> That way, I can make sure it's correct and it won't give you any errors.
[04:43] <zacwalls> okay
[04:44] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7967156/
[04:44] <zacwalls> there you go
[04:44] <alfonsojon> Perfect.
[04:44] <alfonsojon> Now save
[04:44] <alfonsojon> Close gedit
[04:44] <zacwalls> okay
[04:44] <zacwalls> done
[04:44] <alfonsojon> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[04:44] <alfonsojon> run that
[04:45] <zacwalls> okay
[04:45] <zacwalls> done
[04:46] <alfonsojon> errors?
[04:46] <zacwalls> no
[04:46] <alfonsojon> Great.
[04:46] <ObrienDave> \o/
[04:46] <zacwalls> ikr
[04:46] <alfonsojon> That's fixed now
[04:46] <zacwalls> good
[04:46] <alfonsojon> Do you have any other problems? Your Unity 2D setup looked a bit broken.
[04:46] <latemus> hey. i've just installed 9.10 lol
[04:46] <alfonsojon> latemus: fun stuff :)
[04:46] <gr33n7007h> alfonsojon, Well what can I say I truly admire your patience :) 5*'s
[04:46] <capable> latemus: lol
[04:46] <alfonsojon> gr33n7007h: Thank you :)
[04:47] <daftykins> latemus: no support for you then
[04:47] <alfonsojon> I was becoming mad because there was some sort of accusation of using WUBI, then he got flamed, and it just went downhill from there
[04:47] <latemus> yeah. i'm on karmic because it's the last version to include a certain program i need in its repo.
[04:47] <alfonsojon> So, I decided I should chime in and actually provide some legitimate help
[04:47] <capable> alfonsojon: wubi is DEAD!
[04:47] <alfonsojon> latemus: the repos aren't up
[04:47] <capable> =P
[04:47] <zacwalls> now what?
[04:47] <alfonsojon> capable: wubi should have never existed
[04:47] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Any other problems?
[04:47] <capable> latemus: which program?
[04:47] <zacwalls> idk
[04:47] <latemus> alfonsojon: ahh. you.ve begun to help
[04:48] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Then you should be good to go
[04:48] <capable> I don't have a problem with w32-loader though
[04:48] <alfonsojon> latemus: ?
[04:48] <zacwalls> i still dont know what to do really?
[04:48] <alfonsojon> What do you mean?
[04:48] <daftykins> alfonsojon: the user did not help their situation
[04:48] <zacwalls> do i use ubuntu file?
[04:48] <alfonsojon> pardon?
[04:49] <capable> zacwalls: what're you trying to do?
[04:49] <zacwalls> get ubuntu 14.04
[04:49] <latemus> alfonsojon: insight
[04:49] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: ah
[04:49] <alfonsojon> latemus: pardon?
[04:49] <latemus> hmm, are the repos archived anywhere?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|latemus
[04:50] <latemus> insight is the program i need from the karmic repo
[04:50] <OerHeks> latemus,
[04:50] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: You should be able to open the update manager from Unity now, and it should say "A new release is available (Ubuntu 14.04)"
[04:50] <OerHeks> err
[04:50] <zacwalls> okay
[04:50] <capable> latemus: what's the website?
[04:50] <latemus> err, i that was actually a response to cap
[04:50] <capable> the name is so terrible I'd never find it without a link =P
[04:50] <latemus> sorry alfonsojon
[04:50] <zacwalls> thanks goodbye
[04:50] <alfonsojon> latemus: Ah.
[04:50] <latemus> capable: lol
[04:51] <alfonsojon> zacwalls: Good luck :0
[04:51] <alfonsojon> Well that took longer than expected
[04:51] <alfonsojon> xD
[04:51] <ObrienDave> !cookie | alfonsojon
[04:51] <alfonsojon> latemus: It appears that "insight" is in the universe repo
[04:52] <alfonsojon> You should be able to enable the "universe" repo through software-properties and then install it
[04:52] <alfonsojon> then, theoretically, you shouldn't need Ubuntu 9.10
[04:52] <latemus> capable: well, you see it's no longer maintained, and the latest release is full of bugs and un-usable, wont compile from source, and thats why it was pulled from ubuntu after 9.10
[04:52] <alfonsojon> latemus: Ah.
[04:52] <cal3spain_> excellent job, alfonsojon
[04:52] <alfonsojon> cal3spain_: ?
[04:52] <alfonsojon> Thanks
[04:52] <cal3spain_> i'm humbled
[04:52] <capable> latemus: http://itk.org/ ?
[04:52] <alfonsojon> Oh, thanks ObrienDave
[04:53] <alfonsojon> I didn't see the cookie
[04:53] <latemus> alfonsojon: is the universe repo specific to version, aka karmic?
[04:53] <alfonsojon> latemus: I'll go crawling the internet.
[04:53] <alfonsojon> latemus: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insight/6.7.1.dfsg.1-7
[04:53] <capable> that, the debugger?
[04:54] <alfonsojon> is that the "insight" you're talking about?
[04:54] <latemus> capable: http://sourceware.org/insight/
[04:54] <latemus> cert has expired, be warned
[04:54] <alfonsojon> yep, that's the insight
[04:54] <capable> so many bad names
[04:54] <alfonsojon> latemus: see link I posted above
[04:54] <capable> I bet there's a deb of it
[04:54] <capable> still in Gentoo repos
[04:55] <capable> so it must build
[04:55] <OerHeks> good luck building with an EOL ubuntu
[04:55] <capable> no, he's using old Ubuntu because he doesn't build
[04:56] <latemus> the latest wont build on slackware or anything else ive tried
[04:56] <capable> well, slackware hardly has a package manager =)
[04:57] <capable> latemus: 6.8.1?
[04:57] <latemus> i see the link, thanks ill try univers
[04:57] <latemus> yeah
[04:57] <latemus> -a i think
[04:57] <latemus> 6.8.1-a
[04:57] <capable> a?
[04:57] <alfonsojon> latemus: I suggest installing on a fresh version of Ubuntu
[04:57] <alfonsojon> It may work.
[04:57] <latemus> as well as 6.8.1 and a few versions before that
[04:57] <alfonsojon> Try 12.04, since it's older but still supported
[04:58] <capable> it looks like it has frugal requirements
[04:58] <alfonsojon> in that case, it should work fine
[04:59] <latemus> the problem is that it has to use its own bundled version of gdb. and like, all distros already have a current version of gdb installed. so these conflict
[04:59] <latemus> http://www.duntemann.com/assembly.html and serach for Insight Is Now Missing from Ubuntu
[04:59] <alfonsojon> latemus: I see.
[05:00] <capable> well we already know it's missing
[05:00] <OerHeks> so you need a debugger on an EOL ubuntu. makes no sence at all.
[05:00] <latemus> capable: i mean read the paragraph under that heading =)
[05:01] <capable> OerHeks: he just wants the debugger
[05:01] <latemus> OerHeks: i need insight on any distro it will actually build or install on. 9.10 is rumored to be one that it will work on
[05:02] <capable> anyways, this guy is clearly just an end user
[05:02] <capable> I'm sure you can build it on 14 or any version
[05:02] <latemus> capable: what do you mean im an just an end user
[05:02] <latemus> you mean like i dont want to build from source
[05:03] <capable> latemus: this guy whose blog you linked to
[05:03] <capable> his options ignore that you can just compile it
[05:03] <capable> 'cause he probably doesn't ever do that
[05:03] <latemus> oh. no he mentions on that site that it wont compile
[05:04] <capable> yeah, but it will
[05:04] <capable> it's one thing to say 'hey, compile'
[05:04] <latemus> capable: lol, its a book on assembly language... pretty sure he does that
[05:04] <capable> and another to trivially modify code so it actually does compile
[05:04]  * capable shrugs
[05:04] <alfonsojon> capable: that's a bit off topic
[05:05] <capable> alfonsojon: what, compiling?
[05:06] <alfonsojon> capable: No, talking about the guy's blog.
[05:06] <latemus> how long does the repo for a given version stay online
[05:06] <alfonsojon> latemus: Until it's dropped
[05:06] <capable> well latemus was taking it as the only word
[05:06]  * capable shrugs
[05:06] <cfhowlett> latemus, during it's support lifetime.  after that - expect it to be gone
[05:06] <alfonsojon> For example, the desktop repos for 10.04 are dropped
[05:07] <alfonsojon> Whereas the server repos are still up
[05:07] <latemus> i see
[05:07] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, because SERVER has a 5 year support life
[05:07] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: I know.
[05:07] <alfonsojon> That's why I mentioned it, it's a good demonstration of the end-of-life repo discontinuation
[05:08] <latemus> can i tell 9.10 to use the currently online universe repo?
[05:08] <friendlyfascism> no
[05:08] <capable> latemus: you using this 9.10 as your main OS?
[05:08] <latemus> no
[05:08] <capable> latemus: what do you use for main?
[05:08] <latemus> only to get insight running asap
[05:08] <svetlana> No. He is trying to upgrade a 9.10 OS.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> latemus, nope.  sorry
[05:08] <friendlyfascism> you can but it will be no a good idea
[05:08] <friendlyfascism> not*
[05:08] <latemus> main os is slackware
[05:08] <capable> latemus: you can just install it on slackware
[05:08] <latemus> i dont know much about ubuntu
[05:09] <cfhowlett> latemus, can your app NOT be compiled?
[05:09] <capable> I promise, it can be done
[05:09]  * latemus facepalms
[05:09] <capable> yes, it can be compiled
[05:09] <alfonsojon> Okay, allow me to explain for latemus
[05:09] <alfonsojon> He wants to use gdb, but it needs a specific version of a piece of software, which Ubuntu 9.10 has.
[05:09] <OerHeks> old 2009 insight :-)
[05:09] <alfonsojon> If he uses a more modern distro, it will not have the compatible version of said dependency.
[05:10] <capable> as a bin =)
[05:10] <capable> although since you can compile it, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a 3rd party bin out there
[05:10] <latemus> capable: (friendly tone of voice) why are you saying it can be compiled on slackeware? i have tried to compile like the six most recent versions on slackware and i am getting gcc errors telling me there are problems with the c++ it's written in
[05:10] <capable> but he may as well look for a tgz
[05:10] <capable> if he prefers slack
[05:11] <cfhowlett> suggestion: install a supported *buntu - 14.04.  install virtual box.  install xubuntu 9.10 to virtualbox.  install the app to virtual xubuntu.  glitter
[05:11] <latemus> alfonsojon: thanks for explaining on my behalf  btw +)
[05:11] <capable> latemus: because I already know it can be compiled on an up to date system
[05:11] <alfonsojon> latemus: No problem.
[05:11] <alfonsojon> capable: have you compiled it?
[05:11] <capable> I don't have to, it's marked as stable for Gentoo
[05:11] <capable> means it compiles
[05:12] <alfonsojon> capable: Meaning it compiles with any Gentoo-specific patches they have.
[05:12] <capable> alfonsojon: which are about 4 lines
[05:12] <alfonsojon> capable: You don't need to be rude.
[05:12] <capable> and they look to be about Gentoo quirks, not huge changes
[05:12] <capable> alfonsojon: text isn't rude, it's just text
[05:12] <alfonsojon> capable: You shouldn't go "oh it compiles, oh it compiles" when he's clearly explaining it does *not* compile
[05:13] <capable> you're right, much better he uses 9.10 forever
[05:13] <alfonsojon> In his situation, it does not compile, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know how to get it to compile, or else he wouldn't be here.
[05:13] <capable> yes, obviously
[05:13] <alfonsojon> In that case, maybe we should try to help him get it to compile rather than telling him "oh it compiles" ?
[05:13] <capable> but given enough, it will compile
[05:13] <capable> alfonsojon: uh...
[05:13] <capable> and what was I doing?
[05:13] <capable> everyone else was talking about VMs, and I was saying compile
[05:13]  * capable shakes head
[05:14] <latemus> capable: you say the gentoo patches are only for gentoo-related quirks?
[05:14] <latemus> ill go see what version gentoo is able to compile
[05:15] <capable> latemus: it's like 10-20 lines of configure file changes
[05:15] <capable> it's nothing
[05:15] <capable> it's probably just to fit Gentoo's filesystem structure
[05:16] <daftykins> be best to take it to PM/#ubuntu-offtopic if you're gonna go off distro guys
[05:16] <latemus> isnt gentoo a rolling release like arch
[05:16] <latemus> daftykins: okay
[05:16] <capable> latemus: no, arch is a rolling release like gentoo =P
[05:17] <latemus> capable: alfonsojon, thanks guys (and everyone else)
[05:17] <latemus> lol
[05:17] <alfonsojon> latemus: No problem
[05:17] <latemus> btw, this communities 'scuffles' are like newlyweds compared to ##slackware lol
[05:18] <capable> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/dev-util/insight/files/ but there're so few changes I don't know if they'll really be of use
[05:18] <alfonsojon_> lol
[05:18] <latemus> capable: im interested to see what version of gdb they are using with insight, and if their patches replace the old bundled gdb
[05:19] <capable> latemus: I don't think it does replace it, you can read the ebuild
[05:23] <latemus> cool. maybe i'll just use gentoo. but i'd rather see what they do and get ti to work on slackware after all. at any rate, i thank you : )
[05:24] <capable> just learn how to compile it on the distro you already prefer =P
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[05:27] <capable> sup lotus
[05:32] <zacwalls> alfonsojon
[05:33] <zacwalls> im having trouble doing a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04
[05:34] <EsoRotica> Hello there, I'm looking for an alternative to Gparted so that I can make some allocated space contiguous on my drive. I'm looking for an alternative due to a phantom floppy issue in the LiveCD that I do not see an option for in bios.
[05:34] <EsoRotica> unallocated*
[05:35] <zacwalls> i tried to boot on a flashdrive and boot through boot menu and it had a boot error
[05:35] <EsoRotica> zacwalls: How did you create the bootable usb?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, good practice to get help: don't breadcrumb the details.  STATE the darn error message!
[05:35] <zacwalls> disk creator
[05:36] <EsoRotica> This is from an existing ubuntu machine?
[05:36] <zacwalls> xubuntu runing ubuntu desktop, yes
[05:36] <EsoRotica> You were able to see the grub menu?
[05:37] <zacwalls> i didnt use grub menu
[05:38] <latemus> woot. the gentoo ebuild handles the conflicting versions of gdb by stuffing the whole thing into /opt
[05:38] <zacwalls> me?
[05:38] <latemus> @capable
[05:38] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:39] <latemus> !sorry
[05:39] <zacwalls> !wtf
[05:40] <zacwalls> lol thats a new trick
[05:40] <latemus> lol
[05:41] <zacwalls> EsoRotica any suggestions?
[05:41] <zacwalls> !are you on drugs?
[05:41] <EsoRotica> zacwalls:  Not quite sure where you are stuck. When you boot to the device, what does the error say?
[05:41] <OerHeks> zacwalls, without the booterror nobody can answer
[05:41] <zacwalls> boot error
[05:42] <zacwalls> thats what it said
[05:42] <zacwalls> how bout now?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | zacwalls, 1. did you verify the ISO?  2. did you verify the USB?
[05:43] <zacwalls> iso is ubuntu 14.04.1
[05:43] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, NOT what I asked you.  DID YOU VERIFY?
[05:43] <zacwalls> idk im a noob
[05:43] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, read the md5sum link above.
[05:43] <zacwalls> no thank you
[05:44] <EsoRotica> okay then...
[05:45] <eeee> zacwalls: just type md5sum <isoyoudownloadedhere> , it's been 4 hours of people telling you to md5sum
[05:45] <zacwalls> so i tryed to boot iso and yeah... how can i do that through...not rebooting my pc again?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, it's basic trouble shooting for the kind of error you described.  if you're too - whatever - to spend the 3 mintues it takes to ensure you've got good sources ... no help for you
[05:46] <zacwalls> md5sum http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=14.04.1&architecture=amd64
[05:46] <zacwalls> like that?
[05:47]  * eeee shoots himself
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:47] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, don't be lazy or silly.  read the link.  do what it says.
[05:47]  * EsoRotica rolls.
[05:47] <zacwalls> what
[05:47] <helmut_> hi
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | zacwalls,
[05:50] <EsoRotica> So I'm going to try this one more time: I'm having trouble with GParted hanging when scanning devices. I think its related to the floppy that appears in the dock. I do not see an option in my bios to disable floppy. running from CL (sudo gparted /dev/drive) give me the same result. Any ideas?
[05:51] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7967541/
[05:51] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, seriously?  11.10  ?  No longer supported.
[05:51] <ObrienDave> EsoRotica, how long does gparted hang?
[05:51] <rww> zacwalls: Given your history, I suggest you draw this silliness to a swift close.
[05:51] <zacwalls> --__--
[05:51] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: Greater than 15 minutes
[05:52] <zacwalls> i just want to install ubuntu
[05:52] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, no you just want to troll.  done and done.  /ignore on
[05:52] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, but you're NOT listening to people helping you. done with you
[05:52] <zacwalls> you are horrible at reading someone intentions
[05:53] <rww> zacwalls: as are you
[05:53] <cfhowlett> rww, ty
[05:56] <priuon> hello. I like seeing the bootmessages so I put "text" to /etc/default/grub. This leads to problems with xfce though> pulseaudio not available, nm-applet only partily functional (gksu-ing it), settingsmanager not showing all dialog buttons. Can this be fixed?
[05:56] <alfonsojon_> zacwalls: What is your issue?
[05:56] <ObrienDave> so, EsoRotica, can you unmount the floppy from the system?
[05:56] <EsoRotica> ahh, derp.
[05:57] <ObrienDave> *short break*
[05:57] <alfonsojon_> Oh, he got banned
[05:58] <alfonsojon_> Unfortunate.
[05:58] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: I do not see it in either mtab or fstab. running umount /dev/fd0 returns: not mounted.
[05:59] <cfhowlett> priuon, should not effect it that way - verify: disable the "text" option and check your settings
[06:01] <phasip> Where does ubuntu 13.10 -> 14.04 store downloaded update packages?
[06:01] <daftykins> /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:02] <phasip> and if I place packages there it will use them and not re-download (if they are the right version ofc)
[06:02] <priuon> cfhowlett, i will try
[06:02] <Blaster> Any way to prevent Ubuntu from handling my iPhone when I plug it in?  I want to do a passthru to VirtualBox so I can connect it to iTunes in Windows.
[06:02] <Blaster> It's USB by the way.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> priuon, please report outcome.  also on xubunt ...
[06:02] <ObrienDave> EsoRotica, what leads you to the conclusion that the floppy hangs gparted?
[06:03] <tac_> Is there a way in Unity to increase the font size of all applications?
[06:03] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: Strictly speculation. I see the flopp icon in the dock, Ther eisnt one installed. This seems to be commonplace amonst the problem i'm seeing.
[06:03] <samwisegamgee> What is the other way of downloading and installing new applications using Xubuntu, besides the ubuntu Software Centre?
[06:03] <EsoRotica> similar problems
[06:04] <hateball> !apt | samwisegamgee
[06:04] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, synaptic package manager
[06:05] <samwisegamgee> yeah, thanks, ObrienDave
[06:05] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:05] <samwisegamgee> I think I already have another package manager installed already
[06:05] <priuon> cfhowlett: booting "splash" didn't boot to the login screen. does it have to be "quiet splash"?
[06:05] <guoke> 有人没有呀
[06:06] <ObrienDave> !cn | guoke
[06:06] <cfhowlett> priuon, ?  just reverse the "text" option that you did ... splash IIRC
[06:07] <ObrienDave> EsoRotica, not sure how but you need to get rid of the floppy. any external USB drives attached?
[06:07] <samwisegamgee> Can't I just install Synaptic Package Manager using the Ubuntu Software Centre?
[06:07] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:07] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: yes, I'm booting from oen.
[06:07] <ObrienDave> EsoRotica, k
[06:07] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: I'm booting the LiveCD from USB*
[06:07] <ObrienDave> k
[06:09] <priuon> cfhowlett, is it possible to revert such changes without a user created backup? (I have one but would be appreciated in general)
[06:10] <cfhowlett> priuon, sure.  reboot, hit grub and make the change.  it won't be permanent ...
[06:10] <samwisegamgee> Is the Synaptic Package Manager better than the Muon Package Manager for Xubuntu?
[06:11] <priuon> cfhowlett, I also get a plymouthd error when booting with splash.
[06:11] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, "better" is subjective
[06:11] <samwisegamgee> Can I install both the Muon and the Synaptic Package Manager on the same computer?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> priuon, if the only thing you changed was the verbose/text option and you're getting such errors .. there's more going on than you've told us.
[06:12] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, yes, although you probably can't run both at the same time
[06:12] <farbod> hi
[06:13] <priuon> fhowlett "quiet splash" loaded the login screen now and pulse audio is working with it, so does the setting manager, the nm-applet is disabled. I'll try it again with it enabld.
[06:13] <farbod> how can i install ubuntu tuch on my xperia ion?
[06:13] <EsoRotica> ObrienDave: further inspection shows some errors in dmesg when attempting to run gparted: Buffer I/O error on fd0, logical block 0\ end_request sector 0
[06:13] <cfhowlett> priuon, wow!  OK.  don't understand why but ... OK
[06:13] <ObrienDave> EsoRotica, far beyond my knowledge
[06:14] <EsoRotica> Thanks ObrienDave.
[06:14] <phasip> where are the deb files locatet on a ubuntu install usb ?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> phasip, .deb are all through the image
[06:14] <tac_> Does /etc/apt/sources.list get cached? apt-get update is complaning that I have duplicate entries when I don't have any duplicates in that file.
[06:15] <phasip> chaitanya: Sorry, I don't undestand =/
[06:15] <cfhowlett> tac_, easily fixed   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list                    comment out with ## or delete the duplicates
[06:16] <ObrienDave> tac_, you also need to look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:16] <eeee> phasip: /var /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:16] <EsoRotica> tac_: I've faced a similar error check the .d
[06:16] <priuon> cfhowlett: is it possible to have all bootmessages disabled and boot to the loginscreen? or maybe call the loginscreen from tty?
[06:16] <tac_> ObrienDave: that's likely it
[06:17] <cfhowlett> priuon, by default, boot messages ARE disabled ... not sure what you're asking here.   clarification?
[06:19] <priuon> cfhowlett: I would like to boot into the x/xfce loginscreen but have all bootmessages shown as it does with booting to text
[06:20] <cfhowlett> priuon, clear!  I don't know how though.  ask #xfce channel or send a msg to https://forum.xfce.org/
[06:20] <alfonsojon_> rww: Is the ban on zacwalls temporary?
[06:20] <malimbar> Doesn't ubuntu do this if you press a key while booting? I thoguht it did that whey you press escape or something
[06:21] <cfhowlett> malimbar, "this"????
[06:21] <eeee> priuon: are you talking about the splash screen? bla bla bla [OK] bla bla bla [OK] ?
[06:21] <alfonsojon_> I understand he was being rude and ignorant, but a permanent ban because of that seems a bit silly
[06:21] <priuon> eeee: zeah
[06:21] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon_, disagree.  he's was wasting valuable time and trolling hard
[06:21] <priuon> eeee: yeah
[06:21] <Oog> when can i see when a new version of nginx will be put in the package manager? there was a security problem fixed this morning
[06:21] <malimbar> cfhowlett, sorry, I was refering to priuon and the boot messages
[06:21] <Oog> i need nginx 1.6.1
[06:21] <priuon> malimbar, it does
[06:22] <cfhowlett> malimbar, got it.
[06:22] <priuon> malimbar, either escape or uparrow
[06:22] <alfonsojon_> cfhowlett: a permban still seems a bit unnecessary
[06:22] <priuon> malimbar, i dont want to be waiting to push a button everytime i boot though
[06:23] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon_, anyone who refuses to follow the easily understood and reasonable !guideline can probably seek aid ... elsewhere
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Oog, 1.6.1 is not in the repos yet.  compile it from source or wait for it to be added
[06:23] <alfonsojon_> As I said, a tempban is much more appropriate.
[06:24] <Oog> cfhowlett: what's timeline on getting in repos usually
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Oog, "when it's ready"    hard to say as it depends on the upstream to large extent
[06:24] <ObrienDave> Oog, when it passes security and quality checks, usually
[06:24] <priuon> !guideline
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[06:25] <priuon> !guidelines
[06:25] <Oog> im guessing since it fixes a security issue it might move fast?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Oog, usually
[06:25] <ObrienDave> ya never know
[06:26] <samwisegamgee> I am running Xubuntu 14.04 on an HP dx5150 SFF desktop computer with an AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+ with a 2 GHz size and 3 Ghz capacity.  Which optional add ons should I choose when installing the Synaptic  package manager?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <mhabibiz> How can I install pip2 in ubuntu?
[06:27] <mhabibiz> I serched a lot but I can't install it.
[06:27] <samwisegamgee> cfhowlett, what do you mean by xubuntu-restricted?  The add ons make no mention of xubuntu
[06:27] <ObrienDave> !info pip2
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu-restricted-extras | samwisegamgee
[06:28] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:28] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, codecs, mp3 mp4 etc type support
[06:29] <samwisegamgee> ubuntu or xubuntu-restricted, there is no such thing as far as Synaptic Package Manager is concerned
[06:29] <malimbar> priuon, with your booting, you don't want a splash screen at all before the login screen, right?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:29] <priuon> cfhowlett: is there any hope to fix the issues with booting to text and using startx?
[06:29] <malimbar> priuon, sorry, I was googling, so I don't know if your question was answered already
[06:30] <samwisegamgee> Synaptic Package Manager installer only mentions Debian restrictions, if that's what you call them, and I have no idea if Xubuntu is a Debian OS
[06:30] <mhabibiz> @ObrienDave I couldn't undrestand what do you say
[06:30] <priuon> malimbar: right
[06:30] <cfhowlett> priuon, best to ask the experts on the xfce forums or #xfce
[06:30] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee software sources > enable the "restricted" repos
[06:30] <EsoRotica> Okay, I've done enough fiddling to get GParted working... No luck. Any suggestions on an alternative (goal is to make unallocated space contiguous by moving an extended partition left)
[06:30] <malimbar> priuon, it looks like you need to adjust grub
[06:31] <malimbar> priuon, remove "quiet splash", and then update grub
[06:31] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, xubuntu is DERIVED from debian but is not a debian OS
[06:31] <priuon> malimbar: ill give it a shot
[06:32] <samwisegamgee> I am installing Synaptic Package Manager using Ubuntu Software Centre, so I must choose the optional add ons not from the terminal, but from the Software Centre, cfhowlett
[06:32] <mhabibiz> How can I install python2 library in ubuntu? My default version of python is python3.4
[06:32] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, OK then
[06:32] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, enable the restricted repos and then look for restricted extras
[06:33] <malimbar> priuon, now I'm curious, think I might try it out myself
[06:33] <samwisegamgee> cfhowlett, are you saying I should download Synaptic Package Manager from the Ubuntu Software Centre with no optional extras, and then go to the terminal to install the xubuntu restricted extras?
[06:33] <priuon> malimbar, noplymouth and nosplash are available options too (just found out)
[06:34] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, install both from terminal. i gave you the command
[06:34] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, first enable the restricted extras repo.  then install xubuntu-restricted-extras.  use your preferred installion method
[06:35] <samwisegamgee> Why do they call them restricted?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, legalities for the most part
[06:36] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, they are not covered by the same license as the rest of the "free" software
[06:39] <ObrienDave> mhabibiz, all i can find is python2.7 in the repos
[06:39] <samwisegamgee> cfhowlett, ok, so, I need to enable the xubuntu restricted extras on my terminal, then install Synaptic Package Manager from the Ubuntu Software Centre, right?
[06:40] <priuon> malimbar, no option did the trick.
[06:40] <malimbar> priuon, nice
[06:41] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, no you enable the restricted repo first, install synaptic and restricted-extras from terminal
[06:41] <ObrienDave> wb Beldar ;P
[06:41] <Beldar> heh thanks
[06:42] <Beldar> just here to troll capably
[06:42] <mhabibiz> @ObrienDave Can you tell me more information. I tried a lot but can't install pip2. when I try to install a package with pip2, I get some errors..
[06:42] <samwisegamgee> cfhowlett: May be that gives me more choice for the optional extras when I install Synaptic Package Mangaer from the ubuntu software cetnre, but I still don't know which extras to choose
[06:42] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee system > software updater > ubuntu software > Software restricted by copyright                        THEN install the xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:42] <priuon> is it possible to shutdown linux from shell?
[06:42] <eeee> priuon: sudo shutdown -h now
[06:42] <cfhowlett> priuon, of course.  sudo shutdown or sudo init 15 iirc
[06:42] <SnowCrash> Evening all, I've installed Ubuntu and am using Cinnamon with it and rather like it except one annoyance; themes and window controls I select all have menus with black backgrounds making text hard to read. Here's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/WBcBTxb.jpg
[06:42] <ObrienDave> mhabibiz, i know nothing about pip2. sorry
[06:43] <SnowCrash> I've not seen this using Cinnamon on Fedora or Mint, any thoughts about something Ubuntu specific maybe?
[06:43] <Abhijit> clobbered
[06:43] <mhabibiz> @ObrienDave np
[06:43] <Abhijit> wrong paste
[06:43] <samwisegamgee> How is that better than just installing it from the Ubuntu Software Centre?
[06:43] <Abhijit> priuon, or just poweroff
[06:44] <Beldar> SnowCrash, That is a ppa and you would contact the maintainer.
[06:44] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, as i said earlier - use your preferred install method.
[06:44] <SnowCrash> Beldar: Okay I can reach out to them but maybe I shouldn't use a PPA? Is there is "best way" to install Cinnamon in Ubuntu?
[06:45] <samwisegamgee> I don't really care how I install Synaptic Package Manager, what I do care about is knowing which optional extras are useful for Xubuntu
[06:45] <Beldar> SnowCrash, Used to be in the repos, but was not included in 14.04 is all, the ppa is the only way at this time.
[06:46] <SnowCrash> Alright I'll consult them, maybe they have some suggestion or maybe I should just find another PPA. Thanks!
[06:46] <Beldar> SnowCrash, mints other de is though I forget it's name
[06:46] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, asked and answered, what?   12 times now?
[06:47] <Beldar> SnowCrash, I like the gnome shell but use a cairo dock and synapse so never really use most of the de.
[06:47] <samwisegamgee> You gave me a lot of answers about how to install it, but nothing about which optional extras I need
[06:47] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, we told you a quick and simple way of installing what you asked for.
[06:48] <samwisegamgee> Installing it is easy, choosing the extras is hard
[06:48] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, there is NO choice. you either install xubuntu-restricted-extras or you don't. THAT is the choice. sheesh
[06:48] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, what sorts of extras are you talking about?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, your machine.  your choice.  choose.
[06:48] <SnowCrash> Beldar: I'm pretty open minded. I've been using Cinnamon because its been the most usable out of the box but if I can find something that behaves similarly I'll try it.
[06:49] <samwisegamgee> there are about a dozen extras to choose from when installing Synaptic Package Manager
[06:49] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, what sort of extras?
[06:50] <Beldar> SnowCrash, the gnome shell is not that similar the gnome fallback is more like gnome 2
[06:50] <SnowCrash> Beldar: so closer to something like MATE or am I off the mark?
[06:50] <samwisegamgee> I don't know anything about the extras, aside from the fact that some of them are Debian related
[06:50] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, I can think of like 3 or 4 completely different classes of "extras" you might be talking about
[06:51] <samwisegamgee> there are about a dozen extras to choose from
[06:51] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, LIST SOME sheesh
[06:51] <Beldar> SnowCrash, Not really but mate is in the repos, that is the one I forgot.
[06:51] <samwisegamgee> when installing Synaptic Package Manager
[06:51] <Beldar> SnowCrash, for 14.04 that is
[06:51] <malimbar> so I do "sudo apt-get install synaptic", and I don't see anything strange or optional
[06:51] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, xubuntu is complete.  you don't NEED extras.  and you don't even know the extras you *might* want.  install none.  install all.  they are free to try and/or delete.  now let's move on.
[06:51] <samwisegamgee> I will install Muon Packiage Manager instead, it looks easier, it has no extras
[06:52] <SnowCrash> Beldar: Maybe I will try that too, I feel might work just fine as an alternative. Thanks for your advice.
[06:52] <Beldar> SnowCrash,  np problem .;)
[06:52] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, I don't think even you konw wha tyou're talking about. If you could copy and paste a single "option" that you're tlaking about though, we might be able to help you
[06:52] <malimbar> and figure it out
[06:53] <samwisegamgee> I have already given up on Synaptic Package Manager, no need to waste your time any more, don't worry about it, I don't need it
[06:53] <Beldar> samwisegamgee, muon is third party that is not necessarily easier way less support.
[06:54] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, why do you want a different package manager from the default one anyways?
[06:54] <samwisegamgee> It's okay, thanks for trying to help, I have Ubuntu Softgware Centre, that works
[06:54] <samwisegamgee> Because I want a more up to date version of Libre Office
[06:54] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, download it from libreoffice.  install.  done.
[06:54] <malimbar> ah, well that's a different and easy problem, yo udon' tneed new package managers for that
[06:54] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, then why did you NOT ask that in the first place?
[06:54] <samwisegamgee> Ubuntu Software Centre offers a useless version of Libre Office with a bunch of extras that make no sense, and not really good reviews
[06:54] <malimbar> lmao
[06:55] <malimbar> oh, this make me happy
[06:55]  * cfhowlett facepalms the keyboard - repeatedly
[06:55] <Beldar> samwisegamgee, I would learn what is supported than you have the skills to what is needed if you mess with outside the repos.
[06:55] <samwisegamgee> So, I will use Muon package manager to install a better version of Libre Office
[06:55] <OerHeks> useless, come on...
[06:55] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, muon uses the exact same repo list.  you DO know that, right?
[06:56]  * cfhowlett pulls the eject button
[06:56] <Beldar> making sense rarely works here in some cases. ;)
[06:56] <malimbar> samwisegamgee, different package managers won't help you at all. Do what cfhowlett said, adn just install it from the libreoffice website
[06:56] <samwisegamgee> Ok, then I'll just keep using AbiWord and not bother with Libre Office
[06:56] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ have fun with that
[06:57] <samwisegamgee> AbiWord works ok.  May be I don't need Libre Office
[06:57] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, great.  we've moved on.
[06:57] <malimbar> lmao
[06:58] <samwisegamgee> thanks for your help
[06:58] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, happy2help
[06:58] <priuon> how can i install flash for firefox (or maybe chromium-browser) on xubuntu 14.04 Trusty Thar?
[06:58] <ObrienDave> grrrrrrrrr
[06:58] <cfhowlett> priuon, xubuntu-restricted-extras contains flash
[06:58] <Beldar> priuon, The rstricted extras installs it and other relavant codecs
[06:59] <Beldar> restricted*
[06:59] <cfhowlett> priuon, enable your restricted software sources.  then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:59] <Beldar> I don't think the chromium browser is getting update support now
[07:00] <OerHeks> use chrome with buildin flash, or pepperflash for chromium
[07:00] <Beldar> pepper works in FF to
[07:01] <metaspike> chrome is based off chromium. so i doubt it's going to die anytime soon
[07:01] <frib> i'm trying to run my wnr3500lv2 netgear router with shibby tomato + 3g usb stick but the device isn't recognized in the settings and the settings don't stick when i enable the usb modem support.  anyone able to help? thanks
[07:01] <Beldar> metaspike, It is a ppa though so the news was support was stopping
[07:03] <ObrienDave> frib, did you enable 'persistance' when you made the USB stick?
[07:04] <frib> ObrienDave, i asked in wrong channel sorry, the usb is not an ubuntu install its a 3g modem
[07:04] <ObrienDave> ok, np
[07:06]  * ObrienDave was trying to figure out 'shibby' :)
[07:08] <ashoksahoo> Hello!
[07:09] <ashoksahoo> I deleted my .cryptfs and cant login to GUI, can login to tty1
[07:09] <ashoksahoo> now using guest login
[07:09] <quantibility> lol
[07:10] <quantibility> man
[07:10] <quantibility> thats tough
[07:10] <OerHeks> why did you delete your encryptes homefolder?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> ashoksahoo, there's a way to delete the encryption system.  merely deleting .cryptfs is not is not it.
[07:10] <cfhowlett> ashoksahoo, but you DID back up everything before you did that, right?  RIGHT?
[07:10] <quantibility> ok, since people are alive i want yall to recomend me a distro that right for me.
[07:10] <cfhowlett> quantibility, ubuntu
[07:10] <ArchZombie0x> What is the audio API in ubuntu 14.04
[07:11] <quantibility> i wanna program
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !flavors | quantibility
[07:11] <ArchZombie0x> I tried pulseaudio simple
[07:11] <ArchZombie0x> doesn't work
[07:11] <ArchZombie0x> :(
[07:11] <ObrienDave> quantibility, Xubuntu
[07:11] <quantibility> im using xubuntu
[07:11] <quantibility> its not right for me
[07:11] <quantibility> i broke it
[07:11] <quantibility> sorta
[07:11] <ashoksahoo> No I didnt, that was a mistake.. but the data was not that important.. imporant work stuff goes to GIT
[07:11] <cfhowlett> quantibility, "not right" = ???
[07:11] <ObrienDave> quantibility, and how did you "break it"?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> quantibility, dell makes a customized ubuntu for the XPS 13 developer laptop.  install *buntu and then install the packages listed on the dell site.
[07:12] <quantibility> im trying to get back into programming and im really really really stuck, i programmed when i was 11 self taught myself basic. 19  20 it was mirc scripting.
[07:12] <quantibility> ;now
[07:12] <quantibility> sigh<
[07:12]  * quantibility sigh
[07:12] <quantibility> hmm
[07:12] <quantibility> hmm
[07:13] <quantibility> i need to register this nick whats the santax
[07:13] <quantibility> im now 35 by the way
[07:13] <cfhowlett> quantibility, http://odm.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/               + ubuntu and you should be ready to code
[07:13] <ashoksahoo> So is there anyway to log in via GUI or I am stuck to TTY1
[07:13] <quantibility> yeah but should i start over from scaratch here?
[07:13] <Beldar> quantibility, I sense you just want to chat and need no real help with the support guidelines here, am I right?
[07:14] <OerHeks> ashoksahoo, logging in without .cryptfs ?
[07:14] <metaspike> quantibility, install eclipse, gcc, vim and arguably emacs and your good to go?
[07:14] <quantibility> to a degree, but i do wish to get back into programming yes i chat, not only i self taught my self basic , i was on irc since i was 10
[07:14] <cfhowlett> ashoksahoo, nope.  if encryption was so easy to bypass, it wouldn't be workth much.
[07:14] <cfhowlett> quantibility, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15]  * ObrienDave senses a reinstall in ashoksahoo's future
[07:15] <quantibility> LOL ObrienDave
[07:15] <ashoksahoo> I am talking about login to GUI here. dont want my files.. I can login via TTY
[07:15] <metaspike> ashoksahoo, ? does startx do anythin?
[07:16] <OerHeks> quantibility, really, how did you manage to delete .cryptfs, and now expecting to be able to login?
[07:16] <alfonsojon_> ashoksahoo: back up data through TTY, make new user, copy data, delete old user
[07:17] <ashoksahoo> can I create a new root user and nuke the user with encrypted fs
[07:17] <quantibility> oreheks i know that was a typo but thanks
[07:17] <alfonsojon_> Yes
[07:17] <alfonsojon_> sudo useradd
[07:17] <quantibility> alfonsojon, xcfe, restart the browswer from stock?
[07:18] <quantibility> please that would be helpful
[07:18] <quantibility> im stuck on control tab
[07:18] <quantibility> errr
[07:18] <quantibility> alt tab
[07:18] <alfonsojon_> Pardon?
[07:18] <geirha> don't use useradd
[07:18] <alfonsojon_> adduser sorry
[07:18] <alfonsojon_> sudo adduser
[07:18] <ashoksahoo> I made a new user, but that guy is not in sudoer list
[07:19] <geirha> sudo adduser username sudo   # adds username to the sudo group
[07:19] <alfonsojon_> Log in to tty1 as the root user, then sudo adduser username sudo
[07:19] <alfonsojon_> Adds them to sudo feoho
[07:19] <alfonsojon_> Group
[07:20]  * alfonsojon_ hates typing on a touch screen
[07:20] <dodobrain> hi all.. how does one start/stop couchdb ?
[07:20] <OssumPawesome> hello out there - when I update on my web server I get/hit a bunch of updates and dont throw any errors, but then it says I still need the same number of updates afterwards
[07:21] <OssumPawesome> how do i fix this?
[07:21] <OssumPawesome> output incoming
[07:21] <dodobrain> i have it installed and need to restart it after editing the conf files. there is *no* init script thats installed in couchdb or couchdb-common or couchdb-bin packages!
[07:21] <alfonsojon_> @dodobrain try sudo service couchdb restart
[07:21] <alfonsojon_> Nevermind then... weird
[07:21] <geirha> OssumPawesome: in the MOTD?
[07:22] <dodobrain> alfonsojon_, yeah, i don;t understand whats going on
[07:23] <alfonsojon_> dodobrain: have you tried reinstalling?
[07:23] <dodobrain> why is there no init script installed.. also theres nothing of note in /etc/systemd either for couchdb
[07:23] <ObrienDave> OssumPawesome, would dist-upgrade work for server?
[07:23] <dodobrain> alfonsojon_, this is the official ubuntu package for couchdb
[07:23] <dodobrain> not sure what the restart is supposed to do
[07:23] <dodobrain> cos this is not windows and i'm not doing any kernel/libc upgrade
[07:24] <OssumPawesome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7968047/
[07:24] <alfonsojon_> I meant the package
[07:24] <OssumPawesome> geirha im sorry i dont understand
[07:24] <OssumPawesome> also ObrienDave i have no idea but ill try
[07:25] <alfonsojon_> sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall couchdb
[07:25] <alfonsojon_> dodobrain: ^
[07:26] <OssumPawesome> E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known.
[07:26] <dodobrain> alfonsojon_, yes, i understood what you meant. but what will that achieve that didn;t happen the first time i installed the package?
[07:26] <gdm85> hi there! from time to time I have to run again 'setxkmap us' because my session "forgets" the setting. how is that possible? I simply lock the screen and not even logout when this happens
[07:26] <alfonsojon_> It should have an init.d service.
[07:27] <holden87> hey guys. Looking to buy some stickers for my laptop, but canonical's shipping prices are ridiculous. Does anyone know of an alternative web store, pref. EU based, that makes ubuntu stickers? Thanks!
[07:27] <OssumPawesome> alfonsojon_ is it something other than --reinstall?
[07:27] <ObrienDave> OssumPawesome, the apt-get was not for you, i asume
[07:27] <ObrienDave> *assume
[07:28] <OssumPawesome> alfonsojon_ thats fixed it thank you very much
[07:29] <alfonsojon_> You're welcome?
[07:29] <alfonsojon_> It wasn't intended for you
[07:29] <OssumPawesome> oh lol yeah i think me and some other dude have the same issue with not updating
[07:30] <ObrienDave> well, as long as it's fixed, good job alfonsojon_ LOL
[07:33] <aethersis> Hello, is 3.13.0-32-lowlatency kernel outdated?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> aethersis, it's the latest official Ubuntu version AFAIK
[07:34] <aethersis> oh, so it;s good and safe?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> aethersis, AFAIK yes
[07:34] <aethersis> thanks :)
[07:34]  * ObrienDave runs 3.16.0 ;P
[07:34] <aethersis> ObrienDave, do you know anything about using Jack and ALSA? I have a problem with it
[07:35] <ObrienDave> never could get Jack to work properly
[07:35] <aethersis> it works for me, however there's a problem switching from jack back to alsa
[07:35] <aethersis> my friend told me that it's possible to use jack together with alsa so that both work simultaneously
[07:35] <aethersis> but I have no idea how to do that
[07:36] <ObrienDave> neither do i
[07:36] <alfonsojon_> what is the difference between the mainline kernel and the low latency kernel?
[07:37] <ObrienDave> "snappiness"
[07:37] <ObrienDave> don't quote me on that
[07:37] <daftykins> alfonsojon_: LL kernels are designed for high availability tasks
[07:43] <metaspike> aethersis, there's a way to "wrap" alsa programs to jack, even though they dont support jack natively
[07:44] <aethersis> metaspike - how do I do that?
[07:45] <metaspike> aethersis, also worth noting that jack uses alsa as a backend by default. so your friend was over simplifying
[07:45] <aethersis> I don't have any good sound card however I use lowlatency kernel for virtual instruments and I'd like to have both audio drivers not interfering with each other
[07:45] <aethersis> is there any easy way to use jack with alsa at once?
[07:46] <metaspike> that's what i'm saying. jack uses alsa by default.
[07:46] <Xerrox> hello
[07:46] <Xerrox> I am having some trouble
[07:46] <Xerrox> hello?
[07:46] <Xerrox> anyone?
[07:47] <metaspike> but programs cant use alsa while jack is running, so you can trick them into using jack instead
[07:47] <somsip> !details | Xerrox
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !details | Xerrox,
[07:47] <Xerrox> oksy
[07:47] <Xerrox> i am not quite sure how install java
[07:47] <Xerrox> on my system
[07:47] <Xerrox> its running Xubuntu
[07:48] <Beldar> !java | Xerrox
[07:48] <Xerrox> !java
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !java | xerrox and please ... stop using the enter key!   just put your stuff in one post
[07:48] <metaspike> aethersis, here's a guide: http://jackaudio.org/faq/routing_alsa.html
[07:48] <Xerrox> okay fine
[07:48] <Xerrox> !java
[07:48] <Xerrox>  wait
[07:48] <aethersis> thanks a lot metaspike
[07:48] <Xerrox> is !java not a command?
[07:49] <geirha> Xerrox: read what ubottu wrote to you
[07:49] <aethersis> Xerrox - apparently you are unfamiliar with IRC chatting culture - it's not some facebook - there are more people here so please respect it and put your messages into logical pieces instead of spreading them along 100 lines
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Xerrox, it is but since it's already triggered twice ... less commanding, more reading
[07:49] <Xerrox> i did
[07:49] <Xerrox> it doesn;t help to install it
[07:50] <geirha> Xerrox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:50] <aethersis> xerrox sudo apt-get install default-jre
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Xerrox, that command goes in a terminal, NOT in the irc box
[07:51] <Xerrox> i know that
[07:51] <Xerrox> thanks...
[07:51] <Xerrox> i get an error
[07:52] <aethersis> Xerrox - what do you need java for? If it's for web browser, you will need to follow some browser-specific instructions.
[07:52] <aethersis> what error
[07:52] <Xerrox> i need it for PyCharm
[07:52] <cfhowlett> aethersis, darn it!  I was timing how long he'd expect us to wait!
[07:52] <samwisegamgee> What are the xubuntu-restricted extras used for?
[07:53] <somsip> Xerrox: for PyCharm, the docs advise to use Oracle JDK, but I've found it is fine with Open JDK
[07:53] <Xerrox> error is Unable to locate package default-jr
[07:53] <ObrienDave> we told you
[07:53] <samwisegamgee> What purpose do they serve?
[07:53] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, play somewhere else.  this was all explained to you an hour ago
[07:53] <aethersis> Xerrox - not default-jr I mean default-jre
[07:53] <Xerrox> ohh
[07:53] <Xerrox> fail
[07:53] <ObrienDave> two, three, four, hours, days, weeks. take your pick
[07:53] <Beldar> Xerrox, pycharm is not supported here java is, http://askubuntu.com/questions/473671/pycharm-pro-and-ubuntu
[07:54] <quantibility> it xubuntu but i had the same damn problem with SolusOS some how i manage to to make the butons on my bar magically disappear and when placing a freakin indicator box it slides over to the left of the panel... and stays the hell there, ive tried many methods to no freaking avail
[07:54] <aethersis> Beldar - installing openjdk should fix the problem anyway :p
[07:54] <quantibility> there can someone help now?
[07:54] <Beldar> aethersis, whay are you telling me?
[07:54] <Beldar> why*
[07:55] <aethersis> because we can solve his problem here if it's only java related and it appears to be :>
[07:56] <Beldar> aethersis, Hardly a we address the user.
[07:56] <Beldar> convince them I just posted a link.
[07:56] <aethersis> Xerrox - have you installed java yet?
[07:57] <cyclob|work> hi guys having a lot of troubles getting apache to work on 14.04 server. just updated from 12.04 and i can't get my virtual hosts to work and i don't know why
[07:58] <refj> Hi, I am having an issue during preseed installation. Since 14.04.1 LTS the progress of the automatic installation has disappeared, and now only a purple screen is seen on the console. The installation completes none-the-less. Has anyone seen a bug report for this issue?
[07:59] <metaspike> cyclob|work, is apache running
[07:59] <Beldar> refj, Does it need a graphic driver?
[07:59] <refj> Beldar: No, not at all.
[08:00] <cyclob|work> yeah it is, it throws back a forbidden error but all the permissions are correct for the root
[08:00] <somsip> cyclob|work: did you know the virtual host file changes for 2.4?
[08:00] <cyclob|work> not really but i think i fixed them all up now unless i've missed something
[08:01] <metaspike> netstat -lntu
[08:01] <metaspike> oh. 500 eh
[08:01] <somsip> cyclob|work: so is it working now or not?
[08:02] <refj> Beldar: I have tried adding a nomodeset to the kernel line arguments, which did not make any difference.
[08:02] <metaspike> cyclob|work, maybe you dont have correct user permissions on the directories and files
[08:02] <Beldar> refj, Ah, good to know, not sure otherwise here.
[08:03] <cyclob|work> should i haven't changed them since the update
[08:03] <metaspike> geez this kernel compile is takin forever
[08:03] <refj> Beldar: Interesting the progress reappeared now when the system is "Installing the base system".
[08:03] <somsip> cyclob|work: you *need* to change them. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html
[08:03] <refj> Beldar: Is the ncurses installer also called ubiquity?
[08:04] <Beldar> refj, Never done this myself so no ideas.
[08:04] <mick_> Hello all. Am having trouble with SD card in Ubuntu 12.04.  It shows up on dmesg, but not on fdisk or lsusb. Anyone got any ideas?
[08:04] <refj> Beldar: Thanks for taking your time to answer anyway.
[08:04] <Beldar> mick_, Do you know the file type?
[08:05] <Beldar> has it ever worked?
[08:05] <cyclob|work> would my .htaccess be causing an issue?
[08:05] <mick_> Beldar-don't know file type, how do I find out? It works on my other Ubuntu machine and on Windows partition
[08:05] <somsip> cyclob|work: this is outside the scope of this channel. You really need to be asking in #apache (or ##apache)
[08:05] <metaspike> cyclob|work, have you checked the apache access logs?
[08:06] <metaspike> and that
[08:06] <Beldar> mick_,  fdisk in the other ubuntu would say.
[08:07] <Beldar> mick_, I have a acer aspire netbook it is problematic with the ssd card may just be the computer.
[08:08] <samwisegamgee> Does anyone know anything about Synaptic Package Manager's Maintenance and Search Tools for a Xapian index of Debian Packages (apt-xapian-index)  Is that something Xubuntu can use?
[08:08] <cyclob|work> not really anything in the access logs
[08:08] <Xerrox> how to i install java
[08:09] <Beldar> Xerrox, The link I gave you originally has the answer.
[08:09] <Xerrox> no
[08:09] <Xerrox> thats for pychamr
[08:09] <somsip> Xerrox: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[08:09] <Xerrox> m
[08:09] <Beldar> or some anyway
[08:09] <Xerrox> thanks
[08:10] <refj> Does anyone know the name of non-graphical installer (ncurses)? I'd like to create bug-report for this software.
[08:10] <samwisegamgee> Can Xubuntu use Debian packages?
[08:10] <mick_> Beldar- fdisk on other computer shows FAT16, is that what you mean? I also have acer aspire so might just be the computer. But it's not a hardware issue because it works on windows?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, ask #debian
[08:11] <samwisegamgee> Can Xubuntu use the Debian documentation browser?
[08:11] <Xerrox> where can i get a download link
[08:11] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, same as above ... ask #debian
[08:11] <somsip> refj: some known issues here, with links to existing bugs that might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install
[08:12] <refj> somsip: Thanks!
[08:12] <somsip> refj: this was on 14.04.1 wasn't it?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian
[08:12] <samwisegamgee> thanks
[08:12] <Xerrox> i love sudo -i
[08:13] <refj> somsip: Yes it is.
[08:13] <somsip> refj: k - link should be helpful then hopefully
[08:16] <Beldar> mick_, I would use fat32 at the least depends on the size of stuff you want ntfs for larger.
[08:16] <cyclob|work> ah screw it i'm goign home
[08:18] <Sal00t> ping
[08:18] <almonds2> how can I make my ubuntu install boot into command line and start tcpdump ?
[08:19] <mick_> Beldar- OK will try it. Thanks.
[08:19] <Beldar> mick_, The aspire here was more hassle than worth it, I just bought a usb with ssd slots since I had the card already. This was a while back maybe there is firmware now that fixes this don't know I use another laptop regularly.
[08:25] <samwisegamgee> How do I access and use APT, the Advanced Package Tool.  Is that automatically built into Xubuntu 14.04?
[08:29] <Beldar> !apt
[08:29] <Beldar> samwisegamgee, ^^^^^^^^^
[08:30] <pandaroot-gama> can anyone share ubuntu 14.04  sources list ?
[08:30] <pandaroot-gama> i am updating from 13.04
[08:30] <Beldar> !eol upgrade
[08:31] <Beldar> !eol | pandaroot-gama do a eol upgrade
[08:31] <aukun> hello
[08:31] <aukun> someone for to help me?
[08:31] <Rukh> !details | aukun
[08:32] <aukun> ok
[08:32] <pandaroot-gama> Beldar, ok
[08:33] <aukun> i have a ubuntu last version installed, i wanp to change de memory swap without lost data in other partitions is possible?
[08:34] <trijntje> aukun: what do you mean with change memory swap?
[08:35] <Beldar> pandaroot-gama, Might be better to back up and fresh install, depends per users.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !swap | aukun,
[08:36] <bazhang> you want to resize the swap partition, aukun ?
[08:37] <aukun> yes
[08:37] <aukun> to 2 gb
[08:37] <aukun> because i have 4 gb of ram
[08:38] <bazhang> !gparted | aukun use this then
[08:38] <trijntje> aukun: its easier to use a swap file, or zram-config, or both
[08:38] <trijntje> !swapfile
[08:38] <trijntje> aukun: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[08:38] <aukun> ok i need run gparted out of ubuntu sistem?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> aukun, NO NO NO!
[08:39] <Beldar> should be on the bot never mentioned here or not much anyway
[08:39] <trijntje> aukun: make a swapfile, its much easier and has no downsides
[08:39] <cfhowlett> aukun, do not run gparted while you are running a mounted ubuntu system.  boot an ubuntu USB, run gparted and make your swap changes
[08:39] <aukun> ok
[08:42] <zacwalls_> alfonsojonny_
[08:42] <aukun> i have 8 gb of swap i delete swap partition and create a new swap of 2 gb, the 6 gb is posible add to another partition without lost data?
[08:43] <samwisegamgee> In the Xubuntu Software Updater, under "Other Software" category, which categories should I check besides the two independent categories?
[08:43] <samwisegamgee> For example, should I also check the two Canonical Partner categories?
[08:43] <samwisegamgee> and What about the cdrom category?
[08:43] <Beldar> aukun, You never hibernate?
[08:43] <aukun> hibernate why?
[08:44] <Beldar> aukun, hibernate requires equal swap to ram.
[08:44] <Beldar> generally that small of ram
[08:45] <zacwalls_> beldar, do you remember alfonsojonny_ ?
[08:45] <zacwalls_> im not sure if i get his nick right
[08:47] <Beldar> aukun, Some users, use hibernate that was the question.
[08:47] <samwisegamgee> Can someone give me a link for a tutorial on the Xubuntu Software Updater?
[08:48] <Beldar> samwisegamgee, why it is pretty user plug and go.
[08:48] <samwisegamgee> Not really, it is difficult to use, I need a tutorial
[08:48] <Beldar> not much else but don't run partial updates
[08:49] <aukun> i don't need hibernate mi question is that i need resize de swap memory because i don't need 8gb of swap i only need 2 gb that is the half of my memory ram (4gb)
[08:50] <trijntje> aukun: but why do you care? You really need those 6GB harddrive space?
[08:50] <Beldar> aukun, Than boot a live shrink it and resize any other partitions.
[08:51] <aukun> and then what i do with the 6 gb create a new partition or add to partition ?
[08:51] <Beldar> aukun, Best case scenario would you booting the live and taking a screen shot of gparted and going from there.
[08:52] <aukun> ok
[08:52] <zacwalls_> Beldar is that a no?
[08:53] <Guest78102> Buenas
[08:53] <andtorg> hi, i'm running a 12.04LTS 64-bit. it was my understanding that 14.04 would have appeared in update-manager without me triggering a manual download. what should i check?
[08:53] <Beldar> Guest78102, English?
[08:54] <Beldar> andtorg, software sources 3rd tab lts update in bottom dropdown.
[08:55] <andtorg> Beldar: i got it. must be something else
[08:56] <aukun> is possible add 6gb of memory in a partition without lost datas?
[08:56] <Beldar> andtorg, try do-release-upgrade -p
[08:57] <Beldar> aukun, yes, boot the live and we can go from there.
[08:57] <Beldar> aukun, You meant add the 6 gigs of space right?
[08:58] <Beldar> aukun, Since this seems confusing to you, boot the live so we can see what is up.
[09:00] <aukun> i have 6gb with nothing and want to add this 6gb in one partition of of installation of 20 gb and then i have 26 gb of a one partition for installing programs of 26 gb is possible to do this without lost datas?
[09:00] <Beldar> aukun, YES.
[09:00] <cfhowlett> aukun, gparted.  as stated earlier.  from a USB.  YES
[09:00] <aukun> and dont' lost datas?
[09:01] <iaceob> .
[09:01] <aukun> ok
[09:01] <Beldar> aukun, making a partition bigger will not cause data loss.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> aukun, won't matter if you do since you're going to back up your data first ... aren't you?
[09:01] <trijntje> aukun: always make a backup of all important data before changing partitions
[09:03] <aukun> yes but i dont know how to do a backup in ubuntu
[09:03] <andtorg> Beldar: do-release-upgrade -c "nessun nuovo rilascio trovato" (roughly: any new release found)
[09:04] <Beldar> andtorg, the command I gave you is one used here everyday.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> !backup|aukun, or copy your important files to USB or DVD
[09:04] <Beldar> andtorg,you want a lts upgrade right, that is what you stated.
[09:05] <vlt> andtorg: (more like "NO new release found")
[09:06] <andtorg> Beldar: yes
[09:06] <andtorg> vlt: thx
[09:07] <Beldar> andtorg, Can't really help without a clear description of the problem with a help command given.
[09:07] <Beldar> Are you sure you are still in 12.04?
[09:08] <andtorg> :) yes
[09:08] <Beldar> andtorg, Than state what the problem is with the command run clearly.
[09:09] <Beldar> andtorg, do-release-upgrade -p not c
[09:10] <almonds2> i tried everything and get tcpdump to run on boot in ubuntu 14
[09:10] <almonds2> i put a file in /etc/init.d/tcpdumpscript.sh
[09:10] <almonds2> i edit its permissions
[09:10] <almonds2> it wont boot
[09:10] <almonds2> i mean run
[09:16] <andtorg> Beldar: with -p he tries extracting trusty.tar and asks me for sudo pwd. Will it start upgrading right after, or will it prompt me again (i'm not ready right now: need backup)
[09:17] <Beldar> andtorg, Yes, stop there, and do backup than upgrade
[09:17] <andtorg> Beldar: many thx
[09:17] <Beldar> andtorg, no problem.
[09:30] <refj> What is the name of the text-based installer
[09:31] <Beldar> refj, What release?
[09:31] <refj> 14.04
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !alternate |refj,
[09:31] <Beldar> !mini | refj
[09:31] <cfhowlett> refj, alternate (text based) is no more.  install server or mini
[09:31] <refj> Beldar: Yes, but I need the actual name of the software that is the text-based installer.
[09:32] <Beldar> mini will do the server install
[09:32] <Beldar> refj, Not really it gives you meta options
[09:32] <refj> cfhowlett: Yes, I am installing ubuntu server, I am submitting a bug report and need the name for the text-based installer software/package
[09:33] <refj> Google revealed what it is called. Hmm.. I'll have a look at the source code perhaps.
[09:33] <refj> Google hasn't revealed I mean.
[09:35] <sgo11> How can I create an ubuntu live usb? (without "Try Ubuntu" "Install Ubuntu" options). when I choose boot from usb, it just enters the OS. thanks.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> sgo11, 14.04 ?
[09:36] <sgo11> cfhowlett, yeah. the latest version. 14.04 or 14.04.1 :)
[09:36] <cfhowlett> sgo11, did you install it yet?
[09:36] <samwisegamgee> Is Canonical Partners source code really useful for my software updater, cfhowlett?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, take an IRC break and go use the MANY resources already suggested please.
[09:36] <sgo11> cfhowlett, it doesn't matter actually. I can install it and then create. I got many free PCs here.
[09:37] <samwisegamgee> ok
[09:37] <cfhowlett> sgo11, booting directly to OS suggests to me that you did NOT boot the ubuntu USB but the actually installed OS.  verify your bios settings
[09:38] <sgo11> cfhowlett, ... I think you misunderstood my question. My question was how to create a live ubuntu version in usb disk.
[09:39] <samwisegamgee> but now I know how to install Synaptic Package Manager, and how to configure my software updater, so I am ready to install it, thanks to you, cfhowlett
[09:39] <cfhowlett> sgo11, so ... create a live USB while running a live session?  not sure that's doable.
[09:39] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, happy2help
[09:39] <samwisegamgee> thanks
[09:40] <sgo11> cfhowlett, no... I just want to create a live USB. that's all. what do you mean by "while running a live session"?
[09:41] <cynicallemon> sgoll, just google "remaster ubuntu"
[09:41] <samwisegamgee> I forgot to ask, should I install Synaptic Manager first, or install the restricted extras first?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> sgo11, if booted into the USB, that's a live ubuntu session.  IF you've got the ubuntu ISO saved somewhere, you can use startup disk creator to make another USB --- but as you're already running from USB, your ram is going to take a hit ...
[09:42] <cynicallemon> samwisegamgee, doesnt matter
[09:42] <sgo11> cfhowlett, I think you don't understand my question. anyway.
[09:43] <sgo11> cynicallemon, reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:43] <samwisegamgee> Good, I will install the restricted extras first, then install synaptic manager, both using my terminal
[09:43]  * cfhowlett watches hands, backs away
[09:43] <eeee> sgo11: wants to make sort of a bootable usb, with persistence, that's like an ext hdd that he can boot via the bios
[09:44] <sgo11> eeee, yeah, right. that is what I mean.
[09:45] <eeee> i think you have to dd an ubuntu installation to the usb ? not sure
[09:45] <cynicallemon> eeee, im using a live usb image here now i made from my custom debian sid install which is a vm guest on my main pc
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !remaster
[09:46] <cynicallemon> eeee, yeah once you have the live iso you can use dd to transfer to usb
[09:46] <cynicallemon> yep theres tons more reimaging tools too
[09:47] <geoid> how can I get a larger terminal buffer? Specifically for being able to scrollback further when the stdout is large.
[09:47] <cynicallemon> remastersys was good until it suffered extinction
[09:47] <cfhowlett> cynicallemon, +1 ^
[09:47] <sgo11> cynicallemon, which tool do you suggest now?
[09:48] <eeee> geoid: global menu > profile preferences
[09:49] <geoid> eeee um... where?
[09:49] <cynicallemon> sgoll: i think you have to explore the different ways to be honest as not everyone will like a set way of doing it
[09:49] <eeee> geoid: use the menu of the terminal to edit the preferences
[09:49] <eeee> geoid: which terminal are you using ?
[09:49] <geoid> eeee my terminal doesn't have a menu
[09:50] <geoid> eeee I didn't know there was more than one terminal... i just use the standard one supplied with Mint linux... so the one that shows in the main start menu
[09:51] <cynicallemon> geoid, right click in the terminal window and see if you get options
[09:51] <geoid> It's just called "Terminal"
[09:51] <eeee> geoid: do as cynicallemon suggests,
[09:51] <geoid> cynicallemon no options on right-click... just things like "move to other workspace" and such
[09:52] <geoid> ok wait... if I right-click in the window itself, I see the profile options
[09:52] <geoid> I was right-clicking on the window border
[09:52] <eeee> geoid: yeah, profiles > profile preferences
[09:54] <sgo11> uck project last update at 2013-01-16. that is very old.
[09:56] <sgo11> I just want to get rid of "Try Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu" from the iso file. how to do that?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !kiosk
[09:56] <sgo11> when the live usb booted, it just enter "try ubuntu" option directly.
[10:00] <cynicallemon> sgo11, you could take a look at this forum thread maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216890
[10:03] <sgo11> cynicallemon, reading it. thanks.
[10:13] <RahulAN> i connect with my BT Dongele
[10:13] <RahulAN> i am getting this in my dmesg http://codepad.org/xW844BSi after connecting
[10:14] <TJ-> RahulAN: the device is broken, or the port can't provide sufficient power
[10:16] <RahulAN> TJ-, you mean i must give outsource  power
[10:21] <RahulAN> TJ-, but this device is working wine on my RPi
[10:21] <tareluerlz> Do any of you have 2014 Android phone?
[10:22] <TJ-> RahulAN: But it isn't on the PC, so ensure the port it is in works, and can provide the power the device needs
[10:23] <Germanaz0> Hello everybody, someone created a booteable usb stick with OSX installation from Ubuntu ?
[10:23] <Germanaz0> I have the OSX DVD but have to create an USB
[10:23] <RahulAN> yes, it works, I connected my keyboard and mouse to it with a hub and i tried it on that hub also
[10:24] <RahulAN> TJ-, ^
[10:24] <arkas> hola
[10:25] <tareluerlz> RahulAN:  is  phone or  Tablet or laptop ?
[10:25] <RahulAN> tareluerlz, it is PC on which i connected my Dongle
[10:25] <Germanaz0> I want to create a booteable USB stick with OSX from Ubuntu,  is this possible ? :s
[10:27] <arkas> ahora estoy en la tabla de particiones i ya cree las particiones en mi disco duro, como adicionar 6 gb de espacio libre en una de las particiones ya cradas i instaladas sin crear una particion nueva?
[10:27] <tareluerlz> RahulAN:  So what are you thing to do?
[10:28] <RahulAN> Germanaz0, Yes you can..  just copy all the DVD in one folder on ubuntu and then use mkisofs command and make iso file and then use dd command with you usb disk,
[10:28] <eeee> !es | arkas
[10:28] <arkas> ok perdon
[10:28] <Germanaz0> RahulAN, and it will work on MAC later ?
[10:28] <RahulAN> tareluerlz, i want bluetooth on my PC
[10:29] <RahulAN> Germanaz0, It will Make you a bootable Flash disk, then try it over
[10:29] <tareluerlz> RahulAN:  I would think a dongle would solve that .  The whole idea of USB to add function with out need extra softawre well not much.
[10:29] <Germanaz0> did you ever tried this ? with OSX inside ?
[10:30] <RahulAN> tareluerlz, Sorry i didn't get you
[10:30] <RahulAN> Germanaz0, No I hadn't tried
[10:31] <Germanaz0> ok, thanks :D
[10:32] <tareluerlz> RahulAN:  I would look up the  brand ,  model of dongle to see if maybe , you have to do more then just plug it in .   I have found is really the only way to find out really want to do .
[10:34] <RahulAN> tareluerlz, this donge is working fine on my Rasapberry pi
[10:34] <RahulAN> nut is not working here
[10:34] <TJ-> RahulAN: Are you connecting it to a hub port, or directly to a PC port?
[10:34] <RahulAN> TJ-, to my hub port
[10:34] <RahulAN> and also i tried with PC Port
[10:35] <TJ-> RahulAN: Do both ports show the same device errors ?
[10:35] <TJ-> RahulAN: Is it a laptop or a desktop PC ?
[10:35] <RahulAN> TJ-, Desktop
[10:35] <RahulAN> TJ-, Yes both shows same errors.
[10:35] <TJ-> RahulAN: Plugging it into front USB ports?
[10:37] <TJ-> RahulAN: Often-times front USB ports because of their long internal wiring cause problems, and a quick test is to plug the device into the USB ports on the rear, which are attached directly to the motherboard
[10:37] <RahulAN> same errors TJ-
[10:38] <RahulAN> same errors on both side of CPU
[10:39] <sgo11> what is the difference between usb-creator-gtk and uNetbootin ?
[10:40] <topkek32juan> different programs
[10:40] <topkek32juan> both do the same thing
[10:40] <TJ-> RahulAN: and you can take the device to another host right now and the device works?
[10:40] <RahulAN> Yes it is working fine
[10:40] <RahulAN> I have Raspberry pi
[10:40] <RahulAN> on it i tested worked fine
[10:41] <TJ-> RahulAN: Something very strange about the Bluetooth device then... what is its make and model?
[10:41] <sgo11> topkek32juan, thanks.
[10:42] <topkek32juan> sorry if its a short answer, but thats really it, just depends what gui you want, sgo11
[10:42] <topkek32juan> well
[10:42] <topkek32juan> unetbootin can download iso's too
[10:43] <sgo11> topkek32juan, I think usb-creator-gtk is fine. that is installed by default. I am trying to create a live usb distribution. basically removing "Install Ubuntu" option from ubuntu iso with persistence support. I don't find any easy way to do it.
[10:43] <bobptz> TJ-, I am here.  Can you give me some instructions what to test? ubuntu 12.04 not booting, error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes".  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[10:44] <samwisegamgee> I just executed sudo apt get install xubuntu restricted extras on my terminal command line, and after installing a bunch of stuff it opened a box that says "Package Configuration: configuring ttf mscore fonts installer" and shows me the EULA for Microsoft Software, then it says <ok> at the bottom, so I think it wants me to accept the EULA, but I typed return and nothig happened.  How do I accept the EULA and execute the Ok, so
[10:45] <bobptz> help with ubuntu 12.04 not booting, error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes".  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[10:45] <bcvery> samwisegamgee, use the tab key to select 'OK'
[10:46] <samwisegamgee> thanks bcvery
[10:46] <RahulAN> over Pi i did lsusb -vvvvv I got this http://codepad.org/V8TmUtie
[10:47] <arkas> in gparted there is a window with the message:
[10:47] <arkas> /dev/sdc contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[10:47] <arkas> what contest yes or no?
[10:48] <RahulAN> TJ-, over Pi i did lsusb -vvvvv I got this http://codepad.org/V8TmUtie
[10:48] <grek> Hi i try run displaylink + amd ati divers - is possible ? (when i run on drivers xorg default - display link work, when i install accelerated ati drivers display link gone - please help my to run it
[10:48] <sgo11> hm.. I found slax.org. did anyone try that yet?
[10:48] <grek> http://wklej.to/QaEcb
[10:48] <TJ-> bobk: Try this process, stopping after step 5 where you should have a shell prompt where you can work at repairing it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword#The_Other_Way
[10:49] <grek> chow to check disyplay link work or not now - i dont see it on xrand
[10:50] <Guest8199> getting an error while installing a python package
[10:50] <Guest8199> cam someone help?
[10:50] <bobptz> joinn #dmesg
[10:50] <bobptz> join #dmesg
[10:50] <bobptz> #join #dmesg
[10:50] <bcvery> bobptz: /join
[10:50] <Guest8199> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7969359/
[10:50] <bobptz> bcvery thank you !
[10:51] <TJ-> RahulAN: Interesting, that device is a USB 1.1 device .... on the PC the UHCI (USB 2.x) controller is trying to enumerate it, when it should be the OHCI (USB 1.1) controller. Check the RasPi's /var/log/dmesg see which controller has it on there, ohci or uhci
[10:52] <bobptz> anybody can help with ubuntu 12.04 not booting, error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes".  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[10:52] <TJ-> bobptz: Try this process, stopping after step 5 where you should have a shell prompt where you can work at repairing it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword#The_Other_Way
[10:53] <Lope> Can anyone recommend a good world clocks app? The best I've found is gnome-clocks. But it can't resize to fit the clocks, and has no options to customize the appearance.
[10:53] <sgo11> hmm.. I just found this http://www.linux-live.org/
[10:54] <grek> here is dmesg http://wklej.to/RFbwp
[10:55] <bobptz> TJ-, I don't think this applies to my problem
[10:55] <bobptz> TJ-  my problem is ubuntu 12.04 not booting, error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes".  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[10:56] <TJ-> bobptz: I'm aware of the problem and I've shown you how to get into a position that might allow recovery
[10:56] <xuekan> bobptz, this issue has something to do with nvidia or nouv* drivers.
[10:57] <Guest8199> anyone faced this error before? error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
[10:58] <bobptz> TJ- these are instructions about recovering the password.  I do not understand why I have to do this
[10:58] <TJ-> bobptz: As I recommended last night, edit the GRUB recovery boot menu entry, and add "init=/bin/bash" to it and boot
[10:58] <bobptz> xuekan, yes, but I do not know how to fix it
[10:58] <bobptz> TJ-, ok I will try to do this
[10:58] <TJ-> bobptz: I told you to stop after completing step 5. That will, if it works, get you to a shell prompt where you can work on fixing the issue without Upstart causing issues
[11:00] <TJ-> bobptz: The instructions under "The Other Way Lucid" are more accurate, after step  5 the system should be able to boot to a bash shell prompt
[11:00] <bobptz> TJ-, so when I go to CLI I ask YOou?  But I can go to CLI now, no problem with this
[11:01] <TJ-> bobptz: You can? well that's fine then. The way you kept on pasting that dmesg inferred you couldn't go any further. In which case, what is the real problem?
[11:01] <timkofu> hi guys
[11:01] <timkofu> can anyone help with bind9 RPZ?
[11:02] <meecoder> Why does the welcome slide in the 14.10 daily build installer say welcome to ubuntu 14.04?
[11:02] <Mathisen> can lubuntu open wab files need a adress book from an old xp computer
[11:02] <killer> Hey , I need to know names of different devices connected  to my home network and abndwidth used by them ,ubuntu 12.04
[11:02] <timkofu> killer: ntop
[11:02] <frib> i'm trying to connect to bluetooth devices on my hp envy 15 with ubuntu 14 but it doesn't seem to work
[11:02] <frib> can anyone advise? thanks
[11:03] <meecoder> 14.04, right?
[11:03] <timkofu> killer: ntop-ng is better
[11:03] <frib> lrelease says could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/lrelease': No such file or directory
[11:03] <TJ-> meecoder: try in #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 questions... but generally it is because some packages haven't been updated as yet
[11:04] <blinky_ghost> t
[11:05] <RahulAN> TJ-, any solution for this problem
[11:05] <TJ-> RahulAN: did you read my last comment?
[11:05] <RahulAN> Yeah but hoe to get that in dmesg?
[11:06] <RahulAN> i tried dmesg | grep "ohci" and same with uhci also not output
[11:07] <RahulAN> TJ-,
[11:08] <TJ-> RahulAN: the dmesg (or "/var/log/kern.log") will show the USB device recognition messages when it was plugged in, and the first message will be something similar to "usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci"
[11:10] <RahulAN> TJ-, its dwc_otg
[11:11] <RahulAN> TJ-, new full-speed USB device number 18 using dwc_otg
[11:11] <zleap> hi i seem to be stuck in a login loop
[11:12] <TJ-> RahulAN: That's a USB On-The-Go driver, I can't find it in the mainline kernel is it some out-of-tree proprietary driver?
[11:12] <zleap> i have tried some advice from the ubuntu forums namely deleting .cache and ./config/xfce4
[11:12] <RahulAN> TJ-, this i dont know.. :(
[11:17] <hackeron> hey, I have a Ubuntu 14.04 machine that keeps running out of ram, I can't figure out where the ram is going, can anyone help? - details here: http://superuser.com/questions/793192/what-is-using-up-all-my-memory-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server
[11:18] <RahulAN> TJ-, but on this machine i have uhci_hcd
[11:18] <frib> i am trying to use this bluetooth device in ubuntu 14: 0a5c:21fb but can't connect to devices, any help appreciated
[11:19] <TJ-> RahulAN: what is the make and model of the motherboard in the PC?
[11:21] <mmtz> trying to build venom, but i can't install libgtk-3-dev: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk-3-dev : Depends: libgtk-3-0 (= 3.10.8-0ubuntu1.1) but 3.12.2-0ubuntu4~trusty1 is to be installed"
[11:21] <mmtz> this is on 14.04. what should i do?
[11:23] <mission> hi, one n00b question please: GNOME team implemented some great improvements to Wacom tablet configuration tool - www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsv7x-Jou8s - are there any plans to make it available in Ubuntu as well?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !info wacom*
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !info wacom
[11:27] <cfhowlett> mission, unknown about the rolling those into main ubuntu, but you can install the config tool in vanilla ubuntu
[11:27] <frib> anyone know why lrelease command doesn't work? says: no such file or directory
[11:28] <cfhowlett> mission, check software center - "wacom tablet"
[11:28] <samuraiRM> I wanted to speak with the manager of the chat because I was banned for a week now from ubuntu-it
[11:28] <cfhowlett> samuraiRM, #ubuntu-ops is the channel
[11:28] <samuraiRM> thank you
[11:29] <bazhang> it's actually #ubuntu-irc samuraiRM
[11:29] <DJones> samuraiRM: The best place to ask will be if you join #ubuntu-irc that channel normally deals with loco channel issues
[11:31] <cfhowlett> bazhang, doh! thanks.  sorry for bad intel samuraiRM
[11:32] <bazhang> cfhowlett, np, it's a natural assumption
[11:44] <GroundControl> Hello. I built a minimal installation of ubuntu...putting in  pure openbox. The problem is I can't get Synaptic to run via graphical mode
[11:45] <cmbologna> hi, I have a desktop with two network interfaces, eth0 which gets automatically assigned an ip address and eth1 which is not connected to the network, what would the proper way to bridge them so that I can connect a mac on the eth1 and be able to navigate (the original network will not assign a dhcp to this second copmputer)
[11:46] <RahulAN> TJ-, in my next to
[11:50] <saju_m> How to convert a Linux bridge to L2 and L3 switch ?
[11:50] <saju_m> How to convert a Linux bridge to L2 or L3 switch ?
[11:52] <samwisegamgee> what is a .rpm package?
[11:52] <samwisegamgee> which distributions of ubuntu use .rpm packages?
[11:52] <DJones> samwisegamgee: None of them
[11:52] <DJones> !rpm | samwisegamgee
[11:53] <cmbologna> it's the application format RedHat Linux uses to distribute binaries, equivalent to .deb in ubuntu
[12:01] <phasip> I cannot find the package xubuntu-desktop, is there something I have to do to be able to install it?
[12:21] <addiks> hi, i have two ethernet networks configured using the graphical network manager shipped with ubuntu (14.04). They are called 'DHCP' and 'STATIC'. They both work, but the applet is only showing one of them (always the active one) in the menu. How do i switch between these networks without completely deactivating (unchecking autoconnect in the config) the other? Why cannot i just switch between them in the applet menu?
[12:25] <clin> Hi Is there a way to scp or sftp to a remote box without using ssh keys and without password prompt from a script?
[12:25] <samwisegamgee> What purpose does the java runtime environment suing GIJ/Classpath (gcj-jre) serve as an optional add-on to LibreOffice for Xubuntu?
[12:26] <samwisegamgee> should I add that option to my installation of LibreOffice?
[12:35] <hackeron> hey, I have a Ubuntu 14.04 machine that keeps running out of ram, I can't figure out where the ram is going, can anyone help? - details here: http://superuser.com/questions/793192/what-is-using-up-all-my-memory-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server
[12:40] <dueperdue> Hi prople
[12:40] <dueperdue> *people
[12:41] <dueperdue> What is the easiest way to see which program is using how much memory?
[12:41] <dueperdue> In a human-readable, clutter-free manner.
[12:42] <renebarbosa> dueperdue, http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3/display-the-top-ten-running-processes-sorted-by-memory-usage
[12:44] <dueperdue> renebarbosa: oh my god, thanks for the site!
[12:44] <renebarbosa> duckydan, you're welcome
[12:48] <bobptz> TJ-, the link was not needed. I am editing the grub section of recovery mode. I am adding what you said in the end, ok?
[12:50] <dueperdue> :q
[12:51] <bobptz> tj-, is this ok?
[12:54] <bobptz> tj- I did what you said.  I am again at cli. what should I do know?
[12:55] <bobptz> TJ-, are you with me?
[13:03] <bobptz2> TJ- I did what you said.  I went to CLI again.  But what should I do now?
[13:05] <pbx> is there a way to tell the Backups utility in 14.04 to exclude directories based on a wildcard/regex?
[13:06] <nikomari> ciao
[13:06] <nikomari> !list
[13:09] <bobptz2> guys, anybody can help me with 12.04 not booting with error "Could not write bytes: broken pipes" ?  this is the dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[13:12] <bobptz2> TJ- are you back?
[13:14] <bobptz2> anybody can help me with 12.04 not booting with error "Could not write bytes: broken pipes" ?  this is the dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[13:15] <kanupatar> may I get ubuntu with 3.16 kernel?
[13:16] <tomclarkson> I ran sudo shutdown now -h and took a snapshot of my digital ocean droplet and now I can't access my website, or my droplet by ssh, or reboot from the control panel.  I think its because I am still on 12.10. Can anybody help me?
[13:17] <tomclarkson> I can access maintenance mode from the digital ocean console
[13:17] <pbx> tomclarkson, what does digital ocean support say?
[13:19] <tomclarkson> Digital Ocean support has said "I see that you are currently working within your console, and it looks like you may have gotten the server to fully boot up?
[13:19] <tomclarkson> If you are continuing to have issues with the file system errors, this article has the steps to run a "fsck" to attempt a repair of the file system:
[13:19] <tomclarkson> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-recover-from-file-system-corruption-using-fsck-and-a-recovery-iso
[13:19] <tomclarkson> Let us know if you have any further questions. "
[13:23] <dbv> Hi! Are there any members of the release team around?
[13:26] <cyclobs> hey guys, in ubuntu server 14.04 how do i set apache up to use /home/www like in 12.04
[13:27] <Rishub> Hi, I've created some *.so files and I need them to be detected system wide, how would I go about doing that?
[13:30] <TeMPOraL> ok, I need some help with keyboard again :D. this time, I've managed to get AltGR running almost properly on ubuntu (with v3:ralt_switch_multikey option which, surprisingly, I didn't need on the other machine yesterday !?)
[13:30] <TeMPOraL> the problem I have is that when I depress AltGr the system behaves like I am holding CTRL pressed
[13:31] <TeMPOraL> anybody knows how to get rid of that?
[13:31] <TeMPOraL> (it's ubuntu 14.04 on virtualbox)
[13:33] <ashwin18> Hey guys, I need some help
[13:34] <ashwin18> I messed around with aptitude and removed some packages and now unity doesnt load at startup after the login screen
[13:34] <ashwin18> I need a way to fix this without reformat/reinstall
[13:34] <Naphatul> how do i enable an upstart service?
[13:35] <ashwin18> Is anyone here?
[13:36] <trijntje> ashwin18: install ubuntu-desktop
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !patience | ashwin18
[13:36] <ashwin18> trijntje I'm not able to start terminal
[13:36] <trijntje> ashwin18: hit ctrl + alt + f1 and log in there
[13:36] <ashwin18> the desktop just loads with some icons but the dash and the system tray is missing
[13:37] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, easy fix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop         to restore the default ubuntu packkages
[13:37] <ashwin18> what does ctrl + alt + f1 do?
[13:37] <ashwin18> ubottu I know sorry, was just checking if anyone's actually here
[13:37] <ashwin18> Oh, sorry again
[13:38] <ashwin18> I should also mention what I was doing before this happened
[13:38] <ashwin18> I removed zeitgeist, and I think I used a wildcard (apt-get remove --purge zeitgeist*)
[13:38] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, ctrl alt f1 opens a terminal
[13:38] <ashwin18> Then I installed gnome desktop, then kde desktop, logged out and tried both of them
[13:39] <ashwin18> cfhowlett isn't it ctrl + alt + t?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, restore to full default then figure out what you want -- and be carefull
[13:39] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, try it
[13:39] <ashwin18> The thing is, after I installed both of them, on the login screen I couldn't see a unity option, just two of gnome classic and one of kde
[13:40] <ashwin18> cfhowlett I will. gotta reboot and try it though since I'm in the live session atm
[13:40] <ashwin18> will I have to start the network manager manually as well?
[13:40] <ashwin18> sinceI think I'll need my wifi active for installing it
[13:41] <trijntje> ashwin18: no, that wil work automatically
[13:42] <ashwin18> trijntje awesome, I'll reboot and do this, will get back here if it doesnt work :)
[13:42] <terry> trying to bluetooth working...ubuntu 14.04
[13:42] <ashwin18> what's the name of the package again?
[13:43] <ashwin18> oh nvm found it, ubuntu-desktop
[13:43] <ashwin18> rebooting now
[13:47] <terry> how do I see if bluetooth is built in on laptop....running ubuntu 14.04   fresh install on a Dell 1727
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | terry
[13:50] <abdel> hello, please can anybody recommend a bandwidth utilization tool to effectively monitor the bandwidth usage in my network
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> abdel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[13:59] <Naphatul> how can i make an upstart service trigger on the desktop loading?
[14:00] <FredddyTom> hi all.. one of the things i worry about encryption is that if i get a hardware failure or software issue that it will be very hard to retrieve partial files from disk
[14:00] <sgo11> hi, I want to use ubuntu inside an usb disk. I tried to ask here. but people told me to check LiveCDCustomization or remaster ubuntu. I did google and a few tests. they are not what I want. I don't want to add packages or change background etc... Can anyone please help? thanks.
[14:01] <pbx> sgo11, what tests did you do? can you clarify your goals? i.e. what do you want to do once you have ubuntu installed on a usb key?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: you can install Ubuntu to USB just like you would a conventional drive
[14:02] <sgo11> pbx, just a ubuntu live system inside an usb key with persistence storage. the default iso can do it. but everytime, I boot from usb key, I will see "try ubuntu" and "install ubuntu" option. that is not what I want.
[14:02] <dueperdue> Yo
[14:03] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, in such a way, I don't think the system will load to memory, right? live system will load everything to memory. that is what I understand, might be wrong. If I install ubuntu to usb, will be that slower than a live system with persistence storage? thanks.
[14:04] <dueperdue> Is this the main ubuntu channel?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> dueperdue, it is.  ask your ubuntu question
[14:05] <fridaynext> i have my spamassassin required score set to something like 3.2 - is there some sort of 'spam list' I can import into my spamassassin config to better filter spam?  I'm still getting way too much.
[14:05] <sgo11> If I use usb-creator-gtk to create a bootable usb key from 14.04.1 iso. and then boot from that usb, I will see two options "try ubuntu" and "install ubuntu". By clicking "try ubuntu", I will use the live system. I want a live system with persistence storage without "install ubuntu" option. does this make sense? sorry about my English if it doesn't make sense. thanks.
[14:06] <fridaynext> sgo11: I achieved that by getting another USB stick, and using the first USB stick to install to the second.
[14:06] <sgo11> like slax.org. the slax OS.
[14:06] <dueperdue> cfhowlett: how does one remove unity completely and install awesome window manager?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !nounity|dueperdue,
[14:07] <cfhowlett> dueperdue, eh, not quite what you were asking in that link.
[14:08] <mathnoob> hey guys
[14:08] <sgo11> fridaynext, I don't really understand what you mean. I don't need two usb sticks.
[14:08] <mathnoob> yesterday when turning off my system
[14:08] <mathnoob> i got some message about 'spamassassin mail filter daemon'
[14:08] <fatih> hi everyone
[14:08] <fridaynext> sgo11: I know, but when I wanted a full system installed on a USB stick, I needed two to get the job done.
[14:09] <mathnoob> does anyone know what that's about? i googled and it says it's to do with having a mail server but i never set anything like that
[14:09] <mathnoob> up
[14:09] <TeMPOraL> so, anyone please know why alt+gr acts like a sticky control?
[14:09] <sgo11> fridaynext, why do you need two USB sticks? weird.
[14:09] <TeMPOraL> been debugging this for an hour, and even hand-editing xmodmap configs didn't help
[14:09] <fridaynext> sgo11: One has the live install on it, the other is the target that you actually install the full system to.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> dueperdue, best someone else address this question with you.
[14:10] <sgo11> fridaynext, anyway, I don't understand. why do you need the first live system.
[14:11] <fridaynext> sgo11: Because I'm not aware of a way to use an install disk as a permanent bootable system. Perhaps you're looking to do something different than what I did.
[14:12] <fridaynext> I wanted a headless Ubuntu 14.04.1 server that boots completely from a USB drive, so all the SATA ports are free for RAID5.
[14:12] <fridaynext> so I created a USB installer, plugged that in, plugged in a SECOND usb drive, and installed from the first one to the second one.
[14:13] <sgo11> fridaynext, ok. I got what you mean. but I just want a live system. is that the same as a live system? that is an installed system in that usb key.
[14:14] <fridaynext> If I'm understanding the definition of a live system, then yes, the way I described it does create a live system.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: the OS will run like a normal install of ubuntu. RAM will be used as disk cache over time
[14:15] <reversiblean> sleep 20; dropbox start -i
[14:15] <bobptz> 12.04 wil not boot with error: "Could not write bytes: broken pipes"
[14:15] <reversiblean> does not automatically start dropbox
[14:15] <bobptz> can somebody help me?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> mathnoob: dpkg -l | grep -i spam
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: boot to liveCD and fsck your ubuntu partition(s)
[14:15] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, is that how a live system work? I thought a live system would load everything to memory and the system is running inside memory.
[14:15] <bobptz> gere is the dmesg file:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: some of the live system is in RAM, lots of it is still on the CD and is why its not super quick
[14:16] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, It must be a drivers issue, not a hard disk issue
[14:16] <reversiblean> sleep 20; dropbox start -i  on startup applications does not work, why?
[14:16] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, this is why I posted the dmesg
[14:17] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, but once the required parts loaded to RAM, it will run very fast. do you think a live system is slower than an installed version in usb key?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: its will be as the USB interface is faster than CD
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: no moving parts
[14:18] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, I just read that fsck is run automatically at boot time
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: dmesg isnt an fsck
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: not every boot, if you run it manually you can watch the progress
[14:18] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, I mean a live system in usb compared with an installed system in usb. which one is faster? no CD here. thanks. :)
[14:18] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, I checked SMART from Windows7, it is a dual boot
[14:19] <bobptz> isn't this ok?
[14:19] <damiano> hello everybody
[14:19] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, is there somebody experienced here that can look at the dmesg file?  To make sure the video drivers are ok?
[14:20] <damiano> guys, can i create an image of the PC so when i need to change pc or format i can restore it wihtout problem with all the packages, appliations etc
[14:21] <reversiblean> hello, anyone have any idea, why sleep 20; dropbox start -i does not work at startup?
[14:21] <sgo11> basically, I use usb-creator-gtk to create a bootable usbkey, and choose "Try Ubuntu" when booting from that usb key. this is one case. another case is installing the whole system to an usbkey. this is the second case. which one is faster?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> reversiblean, best to ask the dropbox folks about that
[14:21] <reversiblean> i just want to delay the startup of dropbox
[14:22] <cfhowlett> reversiblean, dropbox has command line help
[14:22] <Fishscene> dmiano: If you're just looking for something to image your hard drive, I highly recommend Clonezilla
[14:22] <reversiblean> but it's nautilus-dropbox from ubuntu i guess
[14:22] <damiano> Fishscene, my goal is to create an image of the PC and then restore it when i want
[14:22] <damiano> this image must  have all the things...applications, packages ecc
[14:22] <cfhowlett> damiano, clonezilla +1
[14:23] <damiano> so i am not talking about "backup" or something like this
[14:23] <damiano> ook
[14:23] <damiano> i will lok at clonoezilla
[14:23] <Fishscene> damiano: Yea, Clonezilla will suite you nicely then. It creates an exact bit-for-bit copy of your hard drive. You can save it as a file anywhere large enough to hold it.
[14:23] <damiano> Fishscene, perfect...what if i change the PC ?
[14:23] <damiano> i mean different pc configuration ?
[14:24] <damiano> (hardware)
[14:24] <cfhowlett> damiano, if you change anything, do not expect the image to function 100% - if at all
[14:24] <Fishscene> Well, it only creates an exact copy of your hard drive. It doesn't modify it in any way. So if the system will boot with the hardware change normally, then so will the image of course, when you restore it.
[14:25] <damiano> Fishscene, so it copy OS pakcages etc etc
[14:25] <damiano> ok
[14:25] <damiano> so i do not think there will be problems
[14:26] <damiano> i think only if i change arch from AMD to INTEL maybe
[14:26] <Fishscene> Yes. An exact bit-for-bit copy of your hard drive. :) It compresses the non-used space though, so blank space doesn't take much additional space. 50GB HD with 25 used = Image ~25GB
[14:26] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, can you look at it please?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: I cant see anything except a bootup
[14:27] <damiano> Fishscene, perfect
[14:27] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, so you saw the dmesg?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: yes
[14:28] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, thanks.  ok then I will try to do the fsck
[14:28] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, I am always confused with the drive structure in linux.  Is there a command to check all disks?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: you can run:  sudo parted -l   and see the partitions. You can then run:   sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[14:30] <sgo11> I am reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:30] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, thank you
[14:30] <bobptz> I'll go do it now
[14:31] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, btw, last time from live cd, the cursor was rather erratic.  I have wireless mouse and the touchpad was dead.  Is this normal?  or I have more issues?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> bobptz, if you're running the mouse, the pad may be disabled.
[14:32] <bobptz> well, normally both are working
[14:33] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, I can go to CLI, why do I need the live CD?  I can run fsck from CLI, right?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> bobptz: as long as the partition is unmounted, then fine
[14:36] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, hi, do you have any ideas which one will be faster? a live ubuntu system in usb key or an installation ubuntu in usb key? thanks.
[14:38] <ashwin18> Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that it worked....somewhat
[14:38] <bobptz> ActionParsnip, unmounted?  I don't know.  Anyway, let me try from cdakes for ever.
[14:38] <bobptz> let me try from CLI
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: the installed OS will be faster as files for applications will not have to be hauled from the compressed file to the OS to then run
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: you do realise the difference you are contesting is tiny and will be barely noticable
[14:38] <ashwin18> I used the terminal to install ubuntu-desktop, it DLed and installed stuff and I got the unity entry in the login screen (along with kde which I had already removed) but had the same problem
[14:39] <simsim2000> hello
[14:39] <ashwin18> I then installed kde-desktop, rebooted and used kde from the login screen and it worked
[14:39] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, ok. then I will simply install ubuntu to the usb key. that is also an easier solution. thanks.
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, that's a long way to go. next time: kubuntu
[14:39] <ashwin18> I still couldn't get unity to work though, but for now, I have kde
[14:40] <jayar> i had the whole LEMP stack runnin fine with nginx, now after update i get 502 gateway error (permission denied with php5-fpm.sock) so i went through all the "solutions" i found on line, with no avail... when looking for /tmp/php5-fpm.sock, it doesnt exist...
[14:40] <ashwin18> cfhowlett whats a long way to go?
[14:40] <ashwin18> and tbh I hate kde, it just looks and feels wrong
[14:40] <ashwin18> xfce, mate, gnome, cinnamon, even unity is better
[14:40] <ashwin18> just a personal preference thing though
[14:41] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, install delete logout login ... consider the other ubuntu flavors
[14:41] <ashwin18> cfhowlett I thinnk I've tried ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, lubuntu all at some point or the other
[14:41] <ashwin18> but never like this, as my permanent instal, or with canon ubuntu either for the matter
[14:44] <ashwin18> cfhowlett I'm sorry if i'm not allowed to ask this here, but what do you feel about me getting arch and setting up a de and other software myself
[14:45] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, "linux from scratch" is the standard guide to rolling your own distro.  You'll learn a lot and - as you noted - best discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:45] <ashwin18> cfhowlett cool, I'll google that distro and check out that room later
[14:46] <Jason___> Hello Everyone, I am having issues to access ubuntu computer from windows network. I was able to access before and now I am not.
[14:46] <Jason___> Please help
[14:46] <ashwin18> thanks for your help btw, I assume the ctrl+alt+f1 thingy opens the terminal regardless of the current desktop environment and whether it's (the de) is working or not?
[14:47] <pbx> Jason___, be more specific about the nature of the failure.  what do you do, what do you expect, what happens instead?  include any error messages verbatim.
[14:47] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, there was an fsck option at the recovery mode.  I did run it.  it seemed ok.  I run it 2 times.  The second time it told me it cannot run because of a read only mode.  Is this ok now?
[14:47] <cfhowlett> ashwin18, it should be DE agnostic
[14:48] <ashwin18> I'm sorry, agnostic?
[14:48] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, actually I did not see any message about good or bad result.  It just finished running in a very short time
[14:49] <ashwin18> agnostic (n) a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
[14:49] <noir_> I think changing .bashrc file changed something, now if in the shell i  run "cd" without a following folder, it doesn't return anymore on the  home folder. anyone has some hint?
[14:49] <home_> hi
[14:49] <pbx> noir_, share your .bashrc if you think that's the source of the problem
[14:50] <Jason___> on windows7 computer: opened windows explorer and browsed the network, double clicked on ubuntu computer, it gives error windows cannot access \\repo (error code 0x80070035).
[14:50] <home_> Please help!
[14:50] <trijntje> !ask | home_
[14:51] <home_> ok)
[14:51] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, is it ok now?  what can I do next?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: are you sure you checked the Ubuntu partition?
[14:52] <Fishscene> Jason___: It sounds like you are using WINS, which can be unreliable. Have you tried to access \\(IP Address of Ubuntu) ?
[14:52] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, no!
[14:52] <noir_> pbx: you're right man, here's the pastebin link to bashrc http://pastebin.com/8VSbwNsV
[14:52] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, I just run the menu option from the recovery menu
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: that is what te parted command is for..it shows what the partitions are and you can scan them
[14:53] <Jason___> Fishscene: I did try with ip address, its the same. I am a begginner
[14:53] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, and they need to be UNmounted for the process to work?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: yes
[14:53] <VRMac|Work> Is there a way to tell the Ubuntu installer to only add Ubuntu to the boot list?
[14:53] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, ok, how do I unmount them, in case they are mounted?
[14:54] <VRMac|Work> Or rather, only the Ubuntu being installed? I'm installing Ubuntu on an external drive to give to a friend. I don't want my installation to be on his list.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> bobo69: sudo umount /dev/nameofpartition
[14:56] <Fishscene> Jason___:  Have you tried restarting both computers?
[14:57] <trijntje> also restart the router
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Jason___: is smbd started (I assume you are wanting file access)
[15:04] <Fishscene> ActionParsnip: Not criticizing or anything, but as he stated he was new, how would he go about seeing if smdb was started or not?
[15:05] <Fishscene> brb. text is all weird
[15:05] <chenli> ???
[15:05] <chenli> 这是哪里
[15:06] <chenli> 呵呵
[15:06] <chenli> 不好玩
[15:07] <bcvery> !cn | chenli
[15:08] <chenli> bcvery
[15:08] <chenli> thanks ubottu
[15:11] <kanupatar> hi all
[15:11] <kanupatar> is there any CD version of ubuntu 14.04 is available?
[15:12] <m1dnight> yes, there is. In the canonical store.
[15:12] <m1dnight> oh wait, nvm.
[15:12] <m1dnight> Misinterpreted.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Jason___: sudo smbd restart    should do it
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> !download | kanupatar
[15:12] <m1dnight> I think he means iso's that fit on a CD, not a DVD.
[15:12] <trijntje> kanupatar: you can try the mini install, that fits on a cd
[15:13] <trijntje> otherwise you'll have to use a dvd or a usb drive
[15:13] <trijntje> !mini
[15:13] <kanupatar> any ubuntu version with latest kernel 3.16 ?
[15:16] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, I could not do it.  I even searched for a tutorial on how to do this.  The parted command showed I have an ext4 "thing".  I also show an  /dev/sda.  fsck would not run on either because they were busy/mounted.  I search bout unmounting and I did not find anything.
[15:17] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, there must be an esay way to check the integrity of the file system.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: boot the liveCD, list partitions using: sudo parted -l    run:  sudo fsck /dev/sda1   or whatever your Ubuntu partition is....its 2 commands.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: not simple enough?
[15:19] <m1dnight> offtopic: is parted the cli version of gparted?
[15:20] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, I did the parted command.  It showed me a list of ntfs and an ext4 thing.  (it is dual boot with windows).  I alsready tried it
[15:20] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, maybe from the livecd will be unmounted?  Maybe I do not know how to interpret the results of the parted command?
[15:21] <rww> m1dnight: gparted is a graphical frontend to parted's libraries
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: then the ext4 partition is the linux partition
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: you can umount it if you like, just to be sure
[15:21] <samwisegamgee> how do I register a complaint to the council?  Do I need to log into ubuntu one?
[15:21] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, so I only need to run fsck on ext4?
[15:21] <rww> samwisegamgee: which council?
[15:22] <samwisegamgee> the concil responsible for the xubuntu channel
[15:22] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip  so I should do "sudo fsck ext4"  ?
[15:22] <rww> samwisegamgee: ban appeal, or something else?
[15:23] <samwisegamgee> No, I need to lodge a complaint about an ops who is not following the IRC guidelines
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: no, that is the filesystem type, not the name of the partition
[15:23] <rww> ubottu: appeals | samwisegamgee
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: with you typing that it shows you _haven't_ ran it at all
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: on the same line as "ext4" do you see anyting like "sda6" or similar?
[15:23] <samwisegamgee> ubuntuforums said I can register a complaint with the council
[15:24] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, no, I could not find anything like this
[15:24] <daniel31> hi all. having a problem with my online accounts. empathy says: "authentication failed" for both of them; and evolution says "failed to open folder" for both of them. nothing substantial has changes since last time it worked.. :-S
[15:24] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip on top of the list I saw an dev/sda   that's all
[15:25] <samwisegamgee> If I try messaging the ops, it is likely he will continue to intimidate us and abuse his powers.  Better to let the authorities deal with him
[15:25] <ActionParsnip>  bobptz_ /dev/sda is a disk you can hold in your hand, the numbersa after it are the partitions
[15:25] <rww> samwisegamgee: Please pay the wiki link mentioned by ubottu a visit, thanks.
[15:25] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, so if ext4 is on the 6th line, this means it is dev/sda6  ?
[15:25] <rww> samwisegamgee: if you have additional questions about the appeals process, we can take it to #ubuntu-ops, since it's not on-topic for #ubuntu
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: yes!
[15:26] <daniel31> ohdear, whatdidIjustwalkinon...
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: so run:  sudo umount /dev/sda6 && sudo fsck /dev/sda6    in liveCD
[15:26] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, and you expected me to know this?  I am sorry....
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: lots of guides online. How do you think I found out
[15:26] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, ok got it
[15:27] <bobptz_> ActionParsnip, it is the 3rd day I deal with this problem, I am so drained by now
[15:27] <bobptz_> thank you for the help
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> bobptz_: np matey
[15:28] <daniel31> having a problem with my online accounts. empathy says: "authentication failed" for both of them; and evolution says "failed to open folder" for both of them. nothing substantial has changes since last time it worked.. :-S
[15:28] <Redew> Hello! Who can I contact about some installation trouble?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Redew: ask away
[15:28] <sdcardtroubles> Fellas, is there anyway to force-mount an sdcard on a computer? The card isn't being detected by any device. So I've plugged it into a USB card reader, which I've plugged into my laptop running Ubuntu. But the drive does not show. The card reader has this LED light, which blinks intermittently, but doesn't mount.
[15:28] <Redew> Oh, nice. Will do.
[15:28] <Redew> Okay, so, I downloaded Ubuntu 14-04 onto a USB. I installed it on the computer (wiped w
[15:29] <DS-McGuire> Anyone know the Ubuntu docs IRC channel name?
[15:29] <rww> DS-McGuire: #ubuntu-doc
[15:29] <daniel31> sorry, the reported error for evoltion was "no credentials found in the keyring"
[15:29] <DS-McGuire> rww: Thanks :)
[15:29] <Redew> Windows, everything.) When it's done installing, it tells me to restart, so I do. I am then prompted to instal everything again alongside the previous installations of Ubuntu.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Redew: move your hand slightly away from ENTER, you'll type easier
[15:30] <Redew> Also sorry for the split message.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Redew: did you remove the USB from the system after the system started to reboot?
[15:30] <Redew> No. I've always kept it in.
[15:30] <daniel31> redew: what happens when you remove the installation media (usb key) after the first install?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Redew: thats why then, the install is done. Remove the USB :)
[15:31] <daniel31> redew: suggest you try taking the usb key out when instrallation is finished ;-)
[15:31] <Redew> I did remove it, but it just stays at a screen with a bunch of triangles.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Redew: does the system have a make and model>
[15:31] <Redew> Sorry for the not so great picture description.
[15:32] <Redew> ActionParsnip: you're gonna have to help me with that, if you can. I'm entirely new to the lot of this.
[15:32] <Redew> It was Ubuntu 14-04, and that's really about as much as I know for sure.
[15:32] <sdcardtroubles> Redew: We're asking about the Computer manufacturer.
[15:33] <Redew> ah, sorry.
[15:33] <Redew> HP Pavillion g7 Series. Let me look for codes and stuff on it.
[15:34] <Redew> I can give you the product key, but im not sure of that's what you're looking for.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Redew: is  the system a Dell? or an HP? is it a desktop PC or a laptop?
[15:34] <expunge> Redew: what's up?
[15:35] <Redew> HP Laptop
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Redew: ok so that is the make, which I asked for.... what is the model?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Redew: eg:   ProBook 6570b ...
[15:36] <Redew> Pavilion g7
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Redew: then that is the make and model
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Redew: so I helped you with that, by repeating the question.....
[15:36] <Redew> Sorry 9.9
[15:36] <Redew> Im a little dense when it comes to this,
[15:37] <Redew> And using an iPad dorsmt help
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Redew: instead of immediately panicing when you see text, stop and think
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Redew: try adding the boot option: nomodeset
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Redew
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Redew: seems to be a bog-basic Intel GPU
[15:39] <Redew> Cool, thanks. It might boot me off of irc because im using colloquy. Will be back though.
[15:42] <theToastIsDone> is there an ubuntu server channel??
[15:42] <expunge> theToastIsDone: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[15:42] <rww> theToastIsDone: #ubuntu-server
[15:42] <theToastIsDone> thx everyone!
[15:43] <dbugger> Hi guys. I have a VPS with several Linux Containers. Most have websites, except one that has a nginx, that works as reverse proxy. The problem is that when I try to load the IP address from my website visitors, I get the IP of the container with the reveree proxy. How can I fix this?
[15:44] <expunge> dbugger: I'd ask #nginx
[15:45] <dbugger> expunge: thanks
[15:45] <gslpr_> Hello
[15:45] <expunge> gslpr_: heya
[15:45] <gslpr_> Can an existing EFI partition be mounted to / used for /boot during the installation without disrupting existing data?
[15:45] <expunge> gslpr_: can you rephrase?
[15:46] <gslpr_> When installing other OSes along side ubunut, can the EFI partition be used for both ubuntu and [insert other distro here]
[15:46] <expunge> gslpr_: yes
[15:46] <expunge> if it's spacious enough
[15:47] <expunge> if you mean as /boot
[15:47] <expunge> if you don't mean as /boot, just yes
[15:47] <daniel31> hi all im having a problem with evolution it says "No credentials found in the keyring". no idea why.its a recentproblem.
[15:47] <gslpr_> Thank you!
[15:47] <expunge> gslpr_: but dual booting is a bit of a waste of time =)
[15:49] <expunge> daniel31: I'd ask irc://irc.gnome.org/evolution
[15:49] <gslpr_> Cant arch and 'buntu without dual bootin
[15:49] <expunge> gslpr_: right, but what is the point in two OSes?
[15:49] <daniel31> its not just evolution tho, its empathy as well. all of my online accounts.
[15:49] <daniel31> but thanks expunge! :-)
[15:50] <gslpr_> Testing software in both
[15:50] <daniel31> everywhere it says "expired credentials". I try to log in to renew them, but it doesnt change..
[15:50] <expunge> gslpr_: what aspects are you testing? Binary package management?
[15:51] <expunge> daniel31: you see this? https://www.google.com/search?q=%22ubuntu%22%20%22no%20credentials%20found%20on%20keyring%22
[15:52] <gslpr_> yes
[15:52] <quynguyen95> Keyring ask password when I login. how to disable it?
[15:52] <expunge> gslpr_: fair enough, but usually if you want a package in distro repos, someone other than yourself builds it
[15:53] <gslpr_> Except when I build it
[15:53] <expunge> no you can definitely build it yourself
[15:53] <expunge> I'm just not sure what you get out of it
[15:53] <gslpr_> Applications i make ofcourse
[15:54] <daniel31> I didnt see that, no expunge. I think its because I have an extension that makes google always use verbatim.
[15:54] <expunge> oh? You can tell google to use verbatim with a simple query string
[15:55] <VRMac|Work> quynguyen95: Do you use Evolution?
[15:55] <daniel31> yes, but it forgets next time. so I write an extension for force that query string each time.
[15:57] <LeBlaaanc> with a cronjob set to 0,30 * * * *  can I rely on it running every 0 and 30 of every hour based on the system time or is it still "fuzzy" in that regard
[15:57] <expunge> daniel31: what browser do you use?
[15:57] <quynguyen95> VRMac|Work: I'm just login
[15:57] <expunge> LeBlaaanc: fuzzy in what way?
[15:57] <VRMac|Work> quynguyen95: That's not what I asked. Do you use Evolution?
[15:57] <expunge> LeBlaaanc: just test it with a smaller interval, like 0,1 or 0,2
[15:57] <VRMac|Work> Or is it installed?
[15:57] <LeBlaaanc> expunge: not exactly at 00 and 0 secs?
[15:58] <expunge> LeBlaaanc: what other clock would it use?
[15:58] <LeBlaaanc> export: I was imagining that it had another timer that ran that crontabs so it could fall at any second within 00
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> quynguyen95: set a blank keyring password
[15:58] <LeBlaaanc> the crontab*
[15:58] <quynguyen95> No, I don't. What is evolution?
[15:59] <prawnsalad> anyone know of a way to close a specific *existing* tcp connection? cutter no longer works on recent kernal versions
[16:01] <hyde> quynguyen95: Evolution is a "mail" application, similar to Thunderbird and MS Outlook
[16:01] <VRMac|Work> quynguyen95: Evolution is an e-mail client. What OS do you use?
[16:01] <quynguyen95> VRMac|Work: ubuntu 14.04
[16:02] <VRMac|Work> Doesn't Ubuntu come with Evolution nowadays?
[16:02] <VRMac|Work> Hmm.
[16:02] <expunge> might come with thunderbird, doesn't matter though
[16:02] <VRMac|Work> Okay, so the keyring is prompting you after login?
[16:02] <VRMac|Work> expunge: I'm asking, because Evolution likes to unlock the keyring immediately after login.
[16:03] <expunge> oh I don't care why you're asking =) just saw a question and gave my recollection
[16:03] <expunge> carry on
[16:03] <VRMac|Work> quynguyen95: Do you have automatic login enabled?
[16:04] <quynguyen95> No, I type password and login
[16:04] <VRMac|Work> Hmm.
[16:04] <Tzunamii> dbugger: Did you get help on your Nginx issue?
[16:05] <dbugger> Tzunamii: no, noone answered the question :(
[16:05] <VRMac|Work> Find out what program is trying to unlock the keyring. You can either get rid of it, try to change settings, or disable the keyring altogether. Other than that, I'm out of answers.
[16:06] <Tzunamii> dbugger: On Apache there's a module called mod_rpaf that handles it and the corresponding module for Nginx seems to be in the link below. However, I don't have any experience with Nginx so I can't help you further. I have it fully working on Apache though. http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpRealipModule
[16:06] <Beldar> quynguyen95, Have you made a root password by mistake lately?
[16:06] <dbugger> I will take a look thanks
[16:07] <daniel31> expunge, none of those links help. they are all for ubuntus 12-13 and all of them are some variant of "fixed in latest release"
[16:07] <daniel31> I am really surprised that no one else has had this problem..?
[16:07] <daniel31> (I remember it on 13.x!)
[16:08] <expunge> I've never cared for GNOME or its keyring
[16:08] <expunge> you might instead look for the command/s to completely reset all its configs
[16:08] <expunge> which is also a moving target, IIRC
[16:09] <quynguyen95> Beldar: I don't know. tks any way. I just ignore it
[16:11] <daniel31> now I cant add an online account at all! it just says "no online accounts configured" whenever I add one!
[16:11] <Beldar> quynguyen95, Are you sure this is our password for the email account evolution is reaching?
[16:11] <Beldar> your*
[16:12] <manlin> dbugger: I have had that situation and I have these two lines in my nginx.conf. "set_real_ip_from 127.0.0.1; real_ip_header X-Forwarded-For;" in my case it is 127.0.0.1 bcoz that is Varnish sitting infront of nginx. You might need to change that to your load balancer IP. Not sure if this helps you.
[16:13] <quynguyen95> I don't use evolution app
[16:13] <dbugger> manlin: The problem is that I have different websites, so every one has different configurations
[16:13] <dbugger> I have this:
[16:13] <dbugger>                 proxy_set_header X-Real-IP  $remote_addr;
[16:13] <dbugger>                 proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr;
[16:14] <dbugger> But for some reason it is nto working
[16:14] <Beldar> quynguyen95, Ah is it the wifi password, what app your giving the password for?
[16:14] <Tzunamii> dbugger: get some inspiration from here http://serverdown.ttwait.com/que/442095
[16:14] <manlin> dbugger: hmmm
[16:15] <dbugger> I alsready tried SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25163575/laravel-getting-the-client-ip-when-passing-through-a-reverse-proxy#25163675
[16:15] <Redew> Hello again
[16:15] <Beldar> quynguyen95, Look at ActionParsnip's answer to you.
[16:16] <expunge> Redew: heya
[16:16] <Redew> Okay so I tried to set nomodeset, but it didn't really work
[16:16] <Redew> I clicked try ubuntu without installing and all I get it this http://i.imgur.com/B9uzjAk.jpg
[16:17] <Redew> The same screen I get if I take the USB out
[16:17] <Beldar> Redew, Have you checked the sum of the ISO?
[16:18] <Redew> Umm what is that?
[16:18] <Beldar> !md5sum | Redew
[16:19] <Beldar> Redew, If the sum is good, and I habe had bad ISO's even with a good sum try another usb loader.
[16:20] <Beldar> Redew, I missed any earlier posts,. this is an attempt to install, no install yest?
[16:20] <Beldar> yet*
[16:20] <Redew> I think so
[16:20] <Redew> Basically I install, restart, then have to install again
[16:21] <Redew> Repeat sox times 9.9
[16:21] <Redew> *six
[16:21] <Beldar> Redew, Have you installed looks like xubuntu or linux before?
[16:21] <Redew> No
[16:21] <Redew> This is my first time
[16:22] <Beldar> Redew, Note I use your nick to address you, you can tab complete nicks. Is this a dual boot?
[16:23] <Redew> Nah that's cool. I use IRC all the time. And dual boot? As in booting more than one OS? Or from USB + HD?
[16:24] <expunge> Redew: former
[16:24] <Beldar> Redew, Yes with another OS, and my point was when addressing another here we preface with nicks so we are sure to be communicating
[16:24] <Beldar> no missed posts that way.
[16:25] <Redew> Beldar: Just Ubuntu. In the first installation I deleted windows so I could have Linux only. And ah, my bad. I thought about that option after thinking about it for a few seconds x.x
[16:25] <Almindor> how can you tell your routes to prefer one gateway over the other?
[16:25] <Almindor> I have a static internal network interface and a dhcp public one which is supposed to be my main outgoing for public connections, but the static interface comes up first and the routes use that one then
[16:26] <Beldar> Redew, What windows release, W8? are you familiar with the UEFI situation on OEM W8 installs, this is efi in apple computers as well.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: if you pull down and then pull back up the static interface, is it ok?
[16:27] <mboeru> hi all, anyone tried to install and boot 14.04 on a diskless server with iscsi target ? I managed to install it but after that it just hangs at boot time
[16:27] <Redew> Beldar: W7, and no
[16:27] <expunge> mboeru: what happens before it hangs?
[16:27] <Almindor> ActionParsnip, yeah that's how I do it
[16:27] <Beldar> Redew, So how are you able to install, are you able to get to a live desktop with the usb?
[16:27] <Almindor> ActionParsnip, if I pull up the dhcp one first and wait for it, then bring the static one up it works as I want it
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: then add the commands you execute to run at boot
[16:27] <mboeru> here is a screenshot where it hangs, at ip config https://www.dropbox.com/s/yr9745rhxnfld6l/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-06%20at%2019.27.28.png
[16:28] <Almindor> ActionParsnip, I have no idea how to tell it to wait for  the dhcp to finish in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:28] <mboeru> so ipxe gets dhcp, and the ipxe script boots from the lun, i get into grub, then the server start booting and it hangs there
[16:28] <Redew> Beldar: What do you mean? I mean, all i get is the install prompt again after restarting. And ehen the USB is out i just get http://i.imgur.com/B9uzjAk.jpg
[16:28] <mboeru> prior to the hanging, I do not see any errors
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: comment out the 'auto eth0' (or whatever the line is for the static interface and the dhcp interface will load as normal, you can then add the command in /etc/rc.local to bring up the static
[16:29] <mboeru> just some weird renaming of the interfaces from ethX to p0pX and p1pX ( i have 4 nics, but only one is active)
[16:30] <expunge> mboeru: ah =)
[16:30] <mboeru> actually two dual port nics
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: commenting out the 'auto' line means it will not come up on its own but the command will run as root and bring up the inteface
[16:30] <mboeru> expunge: do you see any issue in my setup?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: background the command with an ampersand so the boot doesn't hang
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Almindor: you get the idea
[16:30] <expunge> mboeru: I haven't been following your convo; did you say it all worked, and then their names changed from eth to p?p?
[16:31] <Jason___> ActionParsnip: I did sudo smbd restart and then tried to access the ubuntu shared folder from windows network it gives Network error: windows cannot access \\repo\docs error code 0x80004005
[16:31] <Almindor> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:31] <mboeru> expunge: no, just that the interfaces get renamed prior to hanging
[16:31] <Beldar> Redew, You said you had installed several times "<Redew> Basically I install, restart, then have to install again" What does this actually mean?
[16:31] <expunge> ah
[16:33] <Jason___> Fishscene: I did restart both computers. Sorry for the delay
[16:33] <ernst_> hello all
[16:34] <expunge> hi ernst_
[16:34] <expunge> good name, ernst
[16:34] <Vigour> on system restart, after loging in, i cannot access my data, it has "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop". i logout, login, everything works fine, but on restart it does it again, any ideas ?
[16:34] <Jason___> Fishscene: While I access \\ipaddress\docs  it gives error Network error: windows cannot access \\ipaddress\docs error code 0x80004005
[16:35] <Redew> Belar: So, I have the option to install Ubuntu GNOME or Try Ubuntu GNOME. I have installed it multiple times now, and after each installation it tells me to restart, so I do. After the restart, it loads up, then goes back to the install Ubuntu GNOME or Try Ubuntu GNOME box. Each time it has done this. I tried to boot it without/with nomodeset, but that also did not work.
[16:35] <Redew> Be
[16:35] <Redew> Ugh
[16:35] <Redew> Beldar:
[16:36] <Redew> Sorry. I really don't like iPads
[16:36] <expunge> Redew: did you try removing the install media? =)
[16:36] <Redew> Yeah, but I just get that blank screen.
[16:36] <Jeruvy> Redew when you rebooted did you remove the install media first?
[16:36] <Redew> Jeruvy: I just get a blank screen
[16:36] <expunge> Redew: well the blank screen is a hurdle, but it's where you want to be
[16:36] <Bustin> Hello there. New install of xubuntu 14.04, can't seem to pair my apple bluetooth keyboard. It shows the mac address of the keyboard, when I try to click pair, it doesn't allow me to. Even when specifying a pin manually. The device name never shows up, as where my apple bluetooth mouse pairs fine.
[16:37] <expunge> Bustin: using what, blueman?
[16:37] <Beldar> Redew, So for us to help we need you to check the sum of the ISO and be able to boot to a terminal at least or the desktop or give some hardware info on the computer.
[16:37] <Bustin> expunge: yes
[16:37] <expunge> Bustin: is it in discovery mode?
[16:37] <Bustin> expunge: yes it is
[16:37] <Beldar> Redew, Checking the sum is imperative.
[16:38] <expunge> Bustin: you could try removing the batteries for a moment, then putting them back in, and trying again
[16:39] <Bustin> expunge: will that reset the device name / configuration? I've done this before, to no avail.
[16:39] <Redew> Beldar: I'm unable to download anything else.
[16:39] <frib> is bluetooth broken in ubuntu 14?
[16:39] <aliteralmind> Good afternoon.
[16:40] <Redew> Also, it is an HP laptop, pavilion g7
[16:40] <Beldar> Redew, Download has nothing to do with what we have talked about unless you have a bad iso.
[16:40] <expunge> Bustin: doesn't really matter what it does if you've done it already
[16:40] <expunge> aliteralmind: afternoon
[16:40] <aliteralmind> Any idea why it's not finding the executable, despite its being on the path?
[16:40] <aliteralmind> I'm doing this in a virtualenv: http://dpaste.com/12TF43F
[16:41] <Redew> Beldar: Oh, the links I got said to download md5sum and then check it.
[16:41] <aliteralmind> export: :)
[16:41] <aliteralmind> expunge:  :)
[16:41] <expunge> aliteralmind: is that file +x?
[16:41] <Beldar> Redew, No you check the sum on a web page against a check on the iso from a terminal.
[16:42] <Beldar> Redew, Is english your primary language, if not what is?
[16:42] <expunge> aliteralmind: chmod +x django-admin.py
[16:42] <aliteralmind> expunge: Yes: http://dpaste.com/2W6HNZH
[16:42] <expunge> k
[16:42] <Redew> Beldar: It is, but computer is a language I am far from understanding
[16:42] <expunge> aliteralmind: sudo might have a different path, I'm not sure
[16:42] <expunge> aliteralmind: what does sudo echo $PATH say?
[16:43] <Redew> Also, Beldar, I check on a web page against a check on the iso, but how?
[16:43] <aliteralmind> expunge: Same: http://dpaste.com/0N7QKRA
[16:44] <Beldar> Redew, Are you very young, just wondering as we seem to have some communication issues, and your understanding of the link and or questions I ask?
[16:44] <^7heo_> hey there
[16:44] <expunge> heya theo
[16:44] <^7heo_> I'm trying to write an upstart script
[16:44] <^7heo_> one script is emitting a signal
[16:44] <^7heo_> the second is "start on signal"
[16:44] <Redew> Beldar: I am probably younger than most (17).
[16:44] <^7heo_> the first script get fired perfectly.
[16:44] <Redew> Really sorry for the confusion, Beldar.
[16:44] <^7heo_> the second script never does.
[16:44] <^7heo_> however, when I "service start second" it works.
[16:45] <expunge> ^7heo_: paste them somewhere, including how you are attempting to execute them, and any output
[16:45] <^7heo_> expunge: it's really basic.
[16:45] <^7heo_> start on [5]
[16:45] <^7heo_> emits test
[16:45] <^7heo_> and the other
[16:45] <^7heo_> start on test
[16:45] <expunge> ^7heo_: so is what I asked =P
[16:45] <^7heo_> yeah
[16:45] <^7heo_> but it's 3 lines
[16:45] <^7heo_> so I'm not going to paste anything :P
[16:45] <^7heo_> (or not on a pastebin)
[16:46] <^7heo_> isn't it enough?
[16:46] <expunge> not for me
[16:46] <dilyan_bg> hey guys
[16:46] <expunge> perhaps for someone else
[16:46] <expunge> dilyan_bg: heya
[16:46] <^7heo_> (both scripts also contain "exec echo > /tmp/test.X" where X is the script index; but that is irelevant I think)
[16:46] <^7heo_> expunge: what do you mean "not for me"?
[16:47] <expunge> it is not enough, for me
[16:47] <aliteralmind> expunge: Actually, attempting sudo export PATH=.... fails with "sudo: export: command not found"
[16:47] <Beldar> Redew, Cool take a closer look at the md5sum link this one, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM It gives the command you need and a link to the sums to compare with. Note the md5sum ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso command is an example you would use the name of your iso here "ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso"
[16:49] <expunge> aliteralmind: I take it that means sudo echo $PATH did not give what you wanted
[16:49] <expunge> aliteralmind: is there some reason you need root for this script?
[16:50] <Beldar> Redew,This would be on a linux computer look closer at the page for other like MS or apple.
[16:50] <Pencil_> hello
[16:50] <maxx_64> howdy
[16:50] <expunge> heya
[16:50] <Redew> Be
[16:50] <Redew> Be
[16:50] <Pencil_> I'm running 12.04  what upgrade should I install safely next.
[16:50] <Pencil_> ?
[16:51] <Redew> Beldar: The only thing on here is Ubuntu (Linux?)
[16:51] <Beldar> Pencil_, 14.04 is the only supported at this time.
[16:51] <Pencil_> Thank you.
[16:51] <Redew> I deleted windows, Beldar
[16:51] <Pencil_> quit
[16:52] <^7heo_> expunge: http://paste.debian.net/114005/
[16:52] <Beldar> Redew, N, it has Mac and MS check instructions, look at the page closely, on the right side is click links for specific actions.
[16:52] <^7heo_> here is the stuff
[16:52] <^7heo_> I copy/pasted around.
[16:52] <aliteralmind> expunge: No: "sudo echo $PATH" and "echo $PATH" are equivalent: /home/jeffy/django_files/django_test_venv/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[16:52] <^7heo_> when I "init 4" I get only one line in the /tmp/trace file.
[16:53] <aliteralmind> expunge: I'm following these instructions: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn
[16:53] <aliteralmind> expunge: Currently working on setp 8.
[16:53] <Beldar> Redew, The issue is there is no fix without some basic info or actions on your part.
[16:54] <aliteralmind> expunge: It works fine if you provide the full path to django-admin.py, but doesn't if you don't.
[16:54] <aliteralmind> expunge: *step 8
[16:54] <MarkProffitt_> I installed some fonts and accidentally overwrote the fonts Skype uses for its icons. Where can I get the correct fonts to install?
[16:54] <expunge> aliteralmind: naturally
[16:54] <expunge> aliteralmind: so you don't know why it needs root
[16:54] <^7heo_> expunge: any idea?
[16:55] <aliteralmind> Well, I started by logging in as root, and creating another account with root access, as described in these pre-requisite steps: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-create-your-first-digitalocean-droplet-virtual-server
[16:55] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, Tell the channel how you made this accident.
[16:55] <^7heo_> because if I get it right, any script that "emits" signal should cause the start of other scripts "start on signal", right?
[16:56] <aliteralmind> expunge: Well, I started by logging in as root, and creating another account with root access, as described in these pre-requisite steps: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-create-your-first-digitalocean-droplet-virtual-server
[16:56] <aliteralmind> expunge: After that secondary account is created, you no longer use "root".
[16:56] <MarkProffitt_> Beldar:   Muslim apologists over the worldwide web quote Luke 22:36 in which Jesus says that if his disciples do not have a sword, they should sell their cloak and buy a sword. Therefore, why would Christians complain about jihad and the sword in Islam since Jesus endorses its use?  The reasoning of the Muslim apologists is completely flawed because they take the verse in Luke out of context. In truth, they want to divert attent
[16:56] <MarkProffitt_> sorry
[16:56]  * rww raises an eyebrow
[16:57] <rww> misquote, I guess :)
[16:57] <expunge> aliteralmind: right, but sudo usually uses root
[16:57] <rww> mispaste*
[16:57] <MarkProffitt_> Beldar:  sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer edubuntu-fonts ubuntustudio-font-meta ttf-oxygen-font-family ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[16:57] <aliteralmind> expunge: To answer your question: That's what the instructions are teling me to do, so I'm doing them.
[16:57] <expunge> aliteralmind: you could try sudo -i, or altering sudo's secure path variable
[16:57] <expunge> aliteralmind: k
[16:57] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, This is ubuntu support spiritual matters are not acceptable even if we all support them.
[16:57] <Redew> Beldar: I found out how to open a terminal. For the md5sum, would it be md5sum ubuntu-14.04-dvd-i386.iso
[16:58] <Redew> Uhh, not sure if that went through
[16:58] <Redew> Guess not
[16:58] <Jason___> I am unable to access folders on ubuntu machine from windows network. It is an intermittent access. Please help
[16:58] <Beldar> Redew, In a linux OS yes
[16:58] <expunge> Jason___: how're you trying to?
[16:59] <aliteralmind> expunge: Will give it a try. Thank you.
[16:59] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, an install would not change the fonts used on the OS, you have to do more to change them in a app or OS wide.
[16:59] <Jason___> expunge: on windows explorer \\ipaddressofubuntu\docs
[16:59] <MarkProffitt_> Beldar,  that is the command that overwrote the fonts used by SKype
[16:59] <expunge> Jason___: so it works, just not reliably?
[17:00] <Jason___> expunge: sometimes it works, most of the time it doesnot
[17:01] <jhutchins> Jason___: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:01] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, I would run a apt-get remove on install ttf-mscorefonts-installer edubuntu-fonts ubuntustudio-font-meta ttf-oxygen-font-family ttf-xfree86-nonfree with skype closed and quit.
[17:01] <MarkProffitt_> Beldar,  Skype was good before that command then immediately after that command the icons on Skype were changed
[17:01] <expunge> Jason___: is it wireless?
[17:01] <Jason___> expunge: it is wired
[17:02] <expunge> MarkProffitt_: you should be able to reinstall skype & its deps
[17:02] <Jason___> expunge: I am a beginner in linux
[17:02] <expunge> Jason___: that's okay
[17:03] <expunge> Jason___: you might try installing openssh-server and using win-sshfs instead
[17:03] <expunge> it might be more reliable, it might not
[17:03] <mf2hd> hi, does anyone know what the heck happened to my sounds? I watched some episode to end and then tried to start new ep and poof, sounds was gone.... sounds are still working in other apps like flash plugin in firefox, but vlc & totem are mute...
[17:03] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, run this command with skype closed and quit. sudo apt-get remove  ttf-mscorefonts-installer edubuntu-fonts ubuntustudio-font-meta ttf-oxygen-font-family ttf-xfree86-nonfree
[17:03] <jhutchins> MarkProffitt_: The way fonts in X work is that there is a hierachy of substitutions.  If you don't have the fonts an application requests, it will substitute a font you do have.  If you later install those fonts, or a preferred font, it will switch to the new fonts.  I believe that is what happened to you.  You could un-install the fonts and it should go back to what it used before.  Re-installing skype will not change anything.
[17:04] <expunge> mf2hd: and if you close firefox?
[17:04] <Jason___> expunge: how to do that? any tutorial or instructions please...
[17:04] <mf2hd> expunge: what?
[17:04] <mf2hd> sounds are working just fine in other apps
[17:04] <expunge> Jason___: on the ubuntu end: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[17:04] <mf2hd> i've rebooted few times, resetted vlc prefs, etc
[17:05] <mf2hd> nothing seems to help
[17:05] <expunge> Jason___: on the windows end, use http://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[17:05] <mf2hd> oh, and ofc checked the mixers
[17:05] <jhutchins> Jason___: Did you set up a web server and specify where /docs was?  Forward slashes in Linux, not back slashes. (/ not \).
[17:05] <MarkProffitt_> jhutchins, I'm trying to reinstall to see what happens. I'll expect to to not work
[17:05] <expunge> mf2hd: and if you close firefox?
[17:05] <Beldar> jhutchins, That makes sense with skype being a MS product, who knows what fonts it is looking for
[17:05] <Beldar> ms now anyway
[17:06] <jhutchins> MarkProffitt_: Skype being a Microsoft product, I would expect it to use fonts from the mstt fonts package.
[17:06] <mf2hd> expunge: canÃt understand how it is connected
[17:06] <jhutchins> Beldar: Yep.
[17:06] <expunge> maybe, although ms bought skype, they didn't create it
[17:06] <mf2hd> but i just relogged in and no sound in videos
[17:06] <jhutchins> mf2hd: All videos?
[17:06] <mf2hd> flash & de sounds are working ok still
[17:06] <Beldar> MarkProffitt_, Try the command I gave you with skype close and quit.
[17:06] <expunge> mf2hd: ...so firefox is not running?
[17:06] <Beldar> closed*
[17:07] <mf2hd> expunge: no, firefox is not related in any way :)
[17:07] <Jason___> jhutchins: the ubuntu machine  was setup by linux expert, who is gone on vacation, I am a beginner in linux and I dont know how he has shared the folders from ubuntu
[17:07] <mf2hd> it's the sounds in vlc / totem that i'm missing, not firefox :P
[17:08] <Jason___> expunge: do I need to uninstall samba or anything else prior to installing openssh-server and using win-sshfs
[17:08] <mf2hd> even the last episode that sound did work is missing sounds now
[17:08] <expunge> Jason___: no, it doesn't use samba
[17:08] <expunge> Jason___: samba is probably what you're already using
[17:08] <expunge> or at least cifs
[17:09] <Jason___> expunge: ok thank you
[17:09] <Jason___> expunge: how to check if the machine is setup with cifs?
[17:09] <mf2hd> so no ideas any1?
[17:10] <Redew> Beldar: all i get is "No such file or directory" I dont even know what to do anymore. Ive tried the relevant info on the link you provided to no avail. I understand that this is very frustrating for you, probably, and i apologize. I am trying to help, but i just keep running into more links and more info and more jargon that i dont understand. It's very frustrating for me, and i am very thankful for your patience.
[17:10] <Kennocha> Has anyone here gotten PBIS to work on 14.04?
[17:10] <expunge> Jason___: not sure I don't use it
[17:11] <Beldar> Redew, The iso has to be in home on a linux OS for that command to work. What is the computer OS you are using to check the sum?
[17:12] <Jason___> expunge: ok, after installing openssh-server and using win-sshfs, will the access to the folders be according to the permissions granted to individual groups?
[17:12] <Redew> Beldar, Linux, there is no more windows. If I need to get to some kind of home screen, I cant. I'm stuck at download Ubuntu GNOME. It was windows but now there's nothing.
[17:13] <expunge> Jason___: how do you mean?
[17:13] <Redew> It says I've downloaded Ubuntu before, but that's only because it keeps making me install it again, beldar
[17:13] <Beldar> Redew, Not frustrating for me per-say. ;) Can you do a virtual install on another computer to get the install under your belt and use the OS?
[17:13] <expunge> Redew: nothing makes you install it again =)
[17:14] <Beldar> Redew, How old is that computer you removed windows from, you said it had W7, can you reinstall W7 and have a virtual there for ubuntu?
[17:14] <Jason___> expunge: I tried apt-get install openssh-server, it says the following packages have unmet dependencies: likewise-open5-gui
[17:14] <mf2hd> ok then, no sound in videos @ ubuntu 14.04
[17:15] <expunge> Jason___: sounds quite odd
[17:15] <MarkProffitt_> Thanks everyone,  re-installing Skype worked
[17:15] <Beldar> Kennocha, The actual issue=help here.
[17:15] <Jason___> expunge: it also says e: unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages
[17:15] <Redew> Beldar, I need an installation disc which I don't have, nor can I get. It is a 2012 HP, I believe. And I don't have access to another computer
[17:15] <Kennocha> "The OU format is invalid." while using PBIS on 14.04
[17:16] <expunge> Jason___: could try that
[17:16] <Jason___> expunge: ok, thanks
[17:16] <expunge> Redew: what's the roblem, blank screen on bootup?
[17:16] <Redew> Define "blank screen," expunge.
[17:16] <Redew> I see a pretty screen with triangles and stuff
[17:16] <expunge> Redew: what's the problem
[17:16] <Beldar> Redew, We are kinda stuck than at this point, do you have any friends that could help you?
[17:17] <MarkProffitt_> Beldar, jhutchins:  thanks. Re-installing Skype worked
[17:17] <m1dnight> Not ranting, but when are they going to fix the black screen after suspend?
[17:17] <expunge> m1dnight: check launchpad
[17:17] <Beldar> m1dnight, That is not a fix issue, it is a per user and computer issue.
[17:17] <webtux> hi everybody, i will soon receive a laptop computer (i will install ubuntu probably), i just want to know your exeperiences with TOSHIBA  laptops (the problems)
[17:18] <Beldar> m1dnight, What is it you want, a screen saver?
[17:18] <Redew> expunge: http://i.imgur.com/B9uzjAk.jpg if I take the USB out when rebooting, this is all I see. If I leave it in, I get http://i.imgur.com/gp6avvi.jpg
[17:18] <Redew> Be
[17:18] <expunge> webtux: my friend likes them alright, been through three
[17:18] <expunge> webtux: on Windows, which is much worse on them
[17:19] <webtux> expuge: thanks :)
[17:19] <Redew> Beldar: They have taken a networking class, but im not sure if they can help with this issue specifically
[17:19] <expunge> Redew: okay, the 2nd is just your install media
[17:19] <Jason___> expunge: It says The following packages have unmet dependencies: likewise-open5-gui : Depends: likewise-open-gui but it is not going to be installes openssh-server : Depends: openssh-client (= 1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1.4) E: Unmetdependencies.
[17:19] <expunge> Redew: boot up and see if you can CTRL+ALT+F2 to a terminal
[17:19] <m1dnight> No, it's just annoying. The issue was gone in 12.04 if I'm not mistaken. It returned in 14.04. I presumed it would have been a difficult fix though. But thanks for the feedback :)
[17:19] <expunge> Redew: if you can, and you have networking, sudo apt-get install irssi and come in here
[17:20] <expunge> Jason___: never heard of that issue, sorry
[17:20] <Redew> Expunge, I have not taken networking :( I wanted to be an English major while my friends took all of the fun classes
[17:20] <Jason___> expunge: np, thanks anyways
[17:20] <Redew> I have realized that I made a mistake in taking that course
[17:21] <Redew> I will boot up and crtl alt f2, though
[17:21] <expunge> Redew: whether you've taken networking is irrelevant =)
[17:21] <jhutchins> Redew: You are probably better equiped to learn networking than your friends are to learn English.
[17:21] <collinjsimpson> but english majors make the most money
[17:21] <Redew> LOL
[17:21] <expunge> no, philosophy ones
[17:22] <collinjsimpson> i picked the wrong major
[17:22] <Beldar> !ot | collinjsimpson exspunge No opinions please this is ubuntu support
[17:23] <Jason___> jhutchins: it is a windows active directory integrated share
[17:23] <Redew> expunge: I got this http://i.imgur.com/emkfjut.jpg which I assume is wrong? I figured I'd tell you before I tried anything else
[17:24] <expunge> Redew: that's your install media
[17:24] <expunge> remove it
[17:25] <Redew> Oh okay so
[17:25] <ubuntufan> Hi. Does anyone here use Dropbox with selective sync? I need help. I would like Dropbox to sync most of my  /home dir, with the exception being some specific subdirs. I moved my Dropbox folder to /opt/Dropbox (via the Move option), then did "ln -s /home/username /opt/Dropbox/home". Seems to work, but Dropbox's Selective Sync only lets me select/unseleck all of "home", not the subfolders inside home. Is there a way around this?
[17:25] <Redew> Take out USB, boot, crtl alt f2 expunge?
[17:25] <jhutchins> Jason___: Sounds like samba+winbind.  I would strongly recommend that you not mess with it until your Linux guy is back, or unless you can get him on the phone to walk you through fixing it.
[17:25] <expunge> ubuntufan: maybe a symlink tree, excluding what you uwant
[17:26] <ubuntufan> expunge: thanks, I'll look that up. never heard of it before.
[17:26] <expunge> ubuntufan: well, a bunch of symlinks
[17:26] <expunge> rather than the real tree
[17:27] <ubuntufan> expunge: Dropbox syncs the data pointed by symlinks, that's why I synlinked my entire home dir
[17:27] <expunge> ubuntufan: right, you could symlink the dirs you want inside your home dir
[17:27] <Jason___> jhutchins: he is gone to his home country for 2 months. I am the nest tech support guy. I am good at windows but beginner in linux. The users need to access the shared folder and are not able to wait for two months.
[17:27] <ubuntufan> but some directories have never-ending sub-dirs and it broke Dropbox's 10k inotify limit.
[17:27] <expunge> merely excluding those youd on't
[17:28] <expunge> maybe you should just use a better service
[17:28] <ubuntufan> expunge: ah, so a whitelist basis rather than blacklist. I see
[17:28] <ubuntufan> expunge: what better service?
[17:28] <expunge> yeah
[17:28] <expunge> I don't know, google drive?
[17:28] <expunge> there might even be a fuse-based FS interface for one
[17:29] <Jason___> jhutchins: it would be nice, if you could please help me... I can share my screen if you want me to
[17:29] <webtux> expunge, is google drive available for linux ?
[17:29] <expunge> webtux: yeah
[17:29] <ubuntufan> dropbox is available from the official repos, plus Google already knows enough about me :)
[17:29] <expunge> heh
[17:30] <webtux> expunge, where can i find the client ?
[17:30] <expunge> there's a client called 'grive'
[17:30] <expunge> something fuse based would be better, though
[17:30] <webtux> ok
[17:30] <ubuntufan> when Dropbox starts scanning my files for commercial reasons I'll move to something else
[17:30] <laspahr> How can I check if I have WiNE installed?
[17:31] <expunge> laspahr: 'which wine'
[17:31] <expunge> dpkg -l | grep -i wine
[17:31] <ubuntufan> run "wine" and seeing if something happens :)
[17:31] <laspahr> I can run "configure wine" but it only opens the options, but I can't run .exe files (at least not the ones I tried
[17:32] <laspahr> expunge: that returned an empty line
[17:32] <expunge> laspahr: then you don't have wine
[17:33] <laspahr> but I have Configure Wine, Uninstall Wine Software, and Winetricks?
[17:33] <laspahr> maybe I need to reinstall
[17:33] <expunge> laspahr: you should install wine via sudo apt-get install wine
[17:33] <expunge> not any other way
[17:33] <laspahr> okay
[17:33] <Beldar> ubuntufan, There are easier ways to backup home.
[17:33] <Redew> expunge: I have the computer hooked up to a TV with an HDMI cord. The computer is on and I can see the screen is lit up, but there is no signal going to the TV. This only happens when the install software is not plugged in
[17:34] <ubuntufan> Beldar: I dont want to back it up, I want to sync it between 3 computers I use daily depending on where I am
[17:34] <Jason___> Please help me with samba+winbind issue, unable to access the ubuntu shared folder from windows network it gives Network error: windows cannot access \\repo\docs error code 0x80004005
[17:34] <laspahr> Hmmm.. not accepting my Sudo password
[17:34] <ubuntufan> ie, if I work a bit on computer 2, and I go home and sit on computer 3, I want to just resume where I stopped
[17:35] <Beldar> ubuntufan, Okay there are better ways to do that I'm sure, dropbox is a 3rd party and may not be set up to do what you want is all.
[17:35] <jhutchins> Jason___: I would copy the data to a Windows share that you can manage.  I don't know enough about your environment to be able to help you.
[17:35] <jhutchins> Jason___: You may be able to find and hire another Linux consultant who could help.
[17:36] <ubuntufan> Beldar: I can't think of a better way that does not involve VNCing into a single computer (as opposed to working natively). For now I think I'll just whitelist sync ~/dev, .config, /Downloads, and /Documents. That's where almost all of my stuff is.
[17:36] <Beldar> ubuntufan, What exactly do you want to sync is it coding, adding apps, pics, docs...etc?
[17:36] <Jason___> jhutchins: ok, how to do that?
[17:36] <jhutchins> Jason___: Get someone who can access the files to copy them.
[17:37] <laspahr> there we go.. now to wait
[17:37] <laspahr> done!
[17:37] <ubuntufan> Beldar: coding, downloaded documents, written documents. I dont mind manually apt-getting stuff I install, as long as .config is synced I can just resume work
[17:37] <Beldar> ubuntufan, AS far as I know dropbox will just have the syncs to a dropbox file not from each pull on one to the others.
[17:37] <Jason___> jhutchins: I am able to copy the files to windows from linux, that is the last option, but how to hire linux consultant?
[17:38] <Beldar> !sync
[17:38] <laspahr> expunge: it still returns an empty line on dpkg -l | grep -l wine
[17:38] <expunge> laspahr: then it isn't installed
[17:38] <laspahr> even after running sudo apt-get install wine
[17:39] <ubuntufan> Beldar: nah it will sync everything in almost real-time. Eg, I'm on computer2, I edit file.txt, as soon as I hit Save, the diff is uploaded to Dropbox's folders, and sent to any other Dropbox clients hooked to my account. If computer3 is turned on at the same, file.txt will be updated immediately (< 5 sec). If it's off, then when it boots, it's updated.
[17:39] <Jason___> jhutchins: are you a consultant?
[17:39] <laspahr> expunge: what now?
[17:39] <ubuntufan> that's what Dropbox does, it's much more than a backup service, it's a sync service (with history too, in case something is deleted by accident)
[17:40] <thecha> hi, hlp pls, how do i burn a movie whichis avi to dvd or cd and make it playablein a dvd player?
[17:40] <ubuntufan> I meant "the diff is uploaded to Dropbox's SERVERS"
[17:40] <thecha> pls hlp k thx bye bye
[17:40] <ubuntufan> thecha: handbrake
[17:40] <thecha> hand brake as in car?
[17:40] <ubuntufan> I think...I haven't used a DVD in like 10 years
[17:41] <expunge> thecha: that is a very involved, tedious, tricky process
[17:41] <expunge> I would not recommend it
[17:41] <ubuntufan> nah the software application
[17:41] <thecha> is it gpl?
[17:41] <Jason___> ubottu: are you linux expert?
[17:41] <thecha> expunge how is it tedious and tricky
[17:41] <expunge> and I don't think handbrake authors DVDs
[17:41] <thecha> authors?
[17:41] <expunge> thecha: there are hundreds of variables, people are employed solely for authoring DVDs properly
[17:41] <Redew> Beldar, mind if I bug you again?
[17:41] <daniel31> ubottu is the most knowledgeable linux user on this forum...
[17:42] <thecha> lol how is this so difficult
[17:42] <jhutchins> Jason___: Advertise in your usual hiring channels?  I don't know.  We had a hard time finding one for a full-time position in the US.
[17:42] <thecha> i knew how to do this when i was using windows
[17:42] <expunge> thecha: if you have $25, you can get a single board computer like a raspberry pi, and never burn another DVD again
[17:42] <thecha> i am only asking becasue i am now on a unbunut
[17:42] <thecha> i ma on a ubuntu now so i dont knwo thinsg
[17:42] <thecha> i mean i dont know how to do things
[17:42] <Jason___> jhutchins: ok thanks
[17:42] <expunge> thecha: use tovid
[17:42] <ubuntufan> thecha:  http://www.devede.org/installation/
[17:42] <expunge> thecha: but you're wasting your time =)
[17:43] <ubuntufan> might be in the repos actually
[17:43] <thecha> is tovid gpl?
[17:43] <ubuntufan> I was linking the devede site mainly
[17:43] <bazhang> thecha, use devede
[17:43] <tac_> How would I install the development library for pango?
[17:43] <laspahr> expunge: I removed and installed again wine using terminal, it says wine-1.6.2 when I type "wine --version"
[17:44] <tac_> I can't find a libpango-dev or anything similarly-named
[17:44] <thecha> so if it fits on dvd?
[17:44] <thecha> i mean cd
[17:44] <thecha> can i use brasero?
[17:45] <expunge> thecha: to burn a data cd?
[17:45] <expunge> thecha: or video?
[17:46] <Redew> Hmm, expunge, unless I have the USB inserted, nothing pops upl on the screen.
[17:46] <Redew> *up
[17:46] <laspahr> expunge: working fine now :) thanks
[17:46] <expunge> Redew: you said that background did
[17:46] <expunge> laspahr: gj
[17:46] <Redew> Now nothing happens, expunge. Let me try again
[17:46] <jhutchins> thecha: You need to format it correctly so that a DVD player will recognize it.  Some will not read CDs.
[17:47] <jhutchins> thecha: tovid is a set of scripts and wrappers for other tools that makes the whole process simpler.
[17:47] <Beldar> Redew, No go ahead.
[17:47] <jhutchins> thecha: handbrake is a single program that I believe can do the whole job.
[17:48] <Redew> expunge Beldar Okay, I got it to display that screen again (the one with just the blue screen + triangles).
[17:48] <Guest123627> hello so i have been having problems with a tutorial. can anyone sympifly it for me?
[17:48] <Redew> Without the installation USB, nothing else happens, expunge and Beldar
[17:49] <Guest123627> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu
[17:49] <TaZeR> hey guys is ubuntu better than xubuntu and kubuntu?
[17:49] <TaZeR> so much buntu
[17:50] <webtux> TaZer, it depends on you config...
[17:50] <Beldar> Redew, Sure, how did you load the iso to the usb and on what OS?
[17:50] <TaZeR> laptop computer
[17:50] <webtux> but how many RAM?
[17:50] <webtux> and what use do you want do do with it
[17:50] <laspahr> okay, nvm... doesn't work how I thought
[17:51] <TaZeR> its core i5-520m 6gb ram, i use it for media mostly
[17:51] <laspahr> Maybe it will
[17:51] <Redew> I had W7 and downloaded it from the Ubuntu site. I then changed the BIOS to boot from the USB first. The first time I installed it I deleted windows because I wanted Ubuntu.
[17:51] <Redew> @Beldar ^
[17:51] <Beldar> TaZeR, The answer is a subjective opinion, try both and form your own.
[17:51] <laspahr> I might just need to redownload the .exe
[17:51] <Guest123627> im still tring to get a os on my pc. a diffrent one.
[17:52] <TaZeR> i hate making choices, can you guys just chose for me
[17:52] <laspahr> yeah it works fine, just a problem with the .exe
[17:52] <Guest123627> TaZeR, xubuntu for your speed.
[17:52] <webtux> TaZeR, ubuntu seem good for you
[17:53] <expunge> TaZeR: what're you used to?
[17:53] <webtux> TaZeR, it's also a question of gust
[17:53] <HiddenDjinn> TaZeR: hackintosh
[17:53] <HiddenDjinn> TaZeR: or chromium
[17:53] <Jason___> Hello everybody! How to activate winbindd?
[17:53] <TaZeR> i had windows 8 before
[17:53] <expunge> TaZeR: mmm, well I don't know about Windows 8, but kubuntu's KDE will be more like Windows in general
[17:53] <TaZeR> im on kubuntu now i liked screenshot of it the best
[17:54] <TaZeR> the ubuntu had a weird bar on the sidwe and my screen is 14 inch
[17:54] <expunge> TaZeR: you're probably all set, then
[17:54] <expunge> yeah ordinary Ubuntu's GNOME/Unity setup is more like Mac OS
[17:54] <expunge> Xubuntu can go either way with minimal configuration
[17:54] <HiddenDjinn> TaZeR: that's unity
[17:54] <TaZeR> this one is working a bit slow though
[17:54] <expunge> TaZeR: what's your graphics device?
[17:54] <TaZeR> so i think ill try the xubuntu
[17:54] <Beldar> Redew, Ah, really, I think you are stuck and need help from someone more experienced at your end to help. All the tools we need you to use via the net are not really available to get us the info we need, and this a new ting for you, get some help locally. ;)
[17:55] <Cyrius1234> I liked xubuntu and disliked the same things you did ;)
[17:55] <Jason___> expunge: I opened gadmin-samba, it says "Status: Activated, inactive servers:winbindd" please help
[17:55] <TaZeR> its the integrated intel gma something
[17:55] <expunge> I use Xfce (what xubuntu uses), myself
[17:55] <Redew> Beldar: Thanks. I can try and find someone.
[17:55] <jhutchins> Jason___: You really shouldn't be messing with it.
[17:55] <kostkon> TaZeR, intel hd3000 or hd4000 most likely
[17:56] <TaZeR> its gma5700mhd
[17:56] <TaZeR> a bit older than those 2
[17:56] <tirengarfio> Im trying to upgrade to 14.04 but I get this: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu * Unofficial software packages not provided by UbuntuI. If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the command 'ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core' in a terminal.
[17:57] <Jason___> jhutchins: I got till gadmin-samba, all I need is winbindd to be activated
[17:57] <expunge> TaZeR: you might indeed to better with a less acceleration oriented wm/de like Xfce, then
[17:57] <Jason___> jhutchins: I have backed up the data
[17:57] <rww> tirengarfio: do any of those apply?
[17:57] <TaZeR> thanks i'll give it a go
[17:57] <Jason___> jhutchins: just wanna get it up and running
[17:57] <tirengarfio> rww, I don't know exactly where to begin..
[17:58] <Beldar> tirengarfio, Any PPA's and other 3rd party repos?
[17:58] <tirengarfio> maybe..
[17:58] <tirengarfio> well, yes
[17:59] <TaZeR> i can just install xfce on top of kubuntu and it will work?
[17:59] <Redew> Beldar I just did a thing
[17:59] <Redew> Let me try and explain
[17:59] <ObrienDave> TaZeR, yes, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <TaZeR> alrighty
[18:00] <Beldar> Redew, There are local ubuntu groups we can get you a link if needed.
[18:00] <Redew> I did crtl + alt + f2 and it sent me to something similar to a cmd command on windows. It had me sign in and I did
[18:00] <ObrienDave> TaZeR, at login you can select xfce from the drop down menu
[18:01] <tirengarfio> Beldar, this is my sources.list: https://gist.github.com/Ziiweb/c28b26d5660f3f95ebd7
[18:01] <tirengarfio> The ppa's should be there?
[18:01] <tirengarfio> it seems there is noone
[18:02] <KingSkorpion> hi
[18:02] <Redew> Beldar: Mind if I PM you a screenshot?
[18:02] <kostkon> tirengarfio, 13.04 is eol that's why. you need to edit that file before attempting to upgrade
[18:02] <kostkon> !eolupgrades | tirengarfio, instructions here
[18:03] <TaZeR> ok done logout lets see if it worked brb
[18:03] <jhutchins> Jason___: https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/winbind.html
[18:03] <Beldar> tirengarfio, PPA's add outside the repos packages, this alone can cause the issue, don't use PPA's unless that bis the last option, yoo can do ppa-purges to rest the packages to the ubuntu repos versions.
[18:03] <tirengarfio> do you mean I should upgrade before?
[18:03] <kostkon> tirengarfio, or probably not. they already point to trusty?
[18:03] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | tirengarfio
[18:04] <SchrodingersScat> Beldar: local ubuntu groups?
[18:04] <Beldar> tirengarfio, And backup up that 12.04 before you upgrade.
[18:05] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, many town have a local ubuntu club...etc mine does, called generally local groups.
[18:06] <KingSkorpion> someone could help me?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> KingSkorpion  let's hear it
[18:06] <Redew> Beldar: http://i.imgur.com/K91Gxa0.jpg
[18:06] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, some are towns in specific countries the user is in the US.
[18:06] <Beldar> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[18:06] <Redew> Really messy but
[18:07] <Redew> That's the screen I see, Beldar
[18:07] <KingSkorpion> I've a problem with ubuntu 14.04
[18:07] <KingSkorpion> the temperature is always too high
[18:07] <Redew> Do you think I should try and do the md5sum command things, beldar? Also sorry for bugging you lots
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> Beldar: thanks
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> KingSkorpion  yes, more details please
[18:08] <KingSkorpion> I've got a notebook pc based on intel core i5 2430m and gpu amd radeon hd 6650m
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> KingSkorpion  please state your issue, in one line, so it's easy to read and repeat
[18:10] <tirengarfio> is there any way to remove all ppa's
[18:10] <tirengarfio> ?
[18:10] <Beldar> Redew, I can't really help you beyond what I have, my suggestion is finding the closest ubuntu loco and working with them. http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[18:10] <xangua> !ppa-purge | tirengarfio
[18:10] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, No problem. ;)
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> Beldar: unfortunately I don't think there's anything as far south as I am, it's a big state. :/
[18:11] <Redew> Yeah, np Beldar. Found my state' steam. Ty :>
[18:11] <KingSkorpion> I've just started up my pc and the temperature is high
[18:11] <Beldar> Redew, Cool, the people are friendly and can be a great help. ;)
[18:11] <tirengarfio> ubottu, how can I find <repository-name>/<subdirectory> ?
[18:12] <aeyesi> Have someone idea what to do when 1234 keys and ; console button does not work in wine?
[18:12] <aeyesi> (hi!)
[18:12] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, You are an experienced user, you might see about making one yourself.
[18:12] <mr_lou> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. Can I download a 14.04 iso and install on top and keep my files etc without problems?
[18:13] <Beldar> mr_lou, With a separate home yes, you can separate home on an install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[18:14] <SchrodingersScat> Beldar: that would be fun, and they have a 'how-to' for that on the page, thanks.
[18:14] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, Yeah I have only gone to one a release part at puppet labs, seemed like beard fiasco, heh. ;)
[18:15] <mr_lou> Beldar, Thanks. Will take a look.
[18:15] <KingSkorpion> MonkeyDust, I can't understand why the temperature of the system is alway too high
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> KingSkorpion  i had that too with 14.04, didnt find a solution, forced me back to 12.04... repeat your question every 10-15 minutes, in one line, until someone enters who can help
[18:16] <Naphatul> KingSkorpion: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-enable-amd-radeon-dynamic-power.html
[18:17] <KingSkorpion> ok thanks
[18:23] <onicrom> has anyone else noticed that during an install of ubuntu on a dell server, the DRAC remote management ip becomes unavailable
[18:27] <mr_lou> I've been trying to install libbluray 0.6.0 by adding various repositories according to various online forums I've found. But when I call dpkg -s libbluray1 it still says I'm running v. 0.2.3
[18:27] <mr_lou> I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong.
[18:27] <mr_lou> First add repository. Then do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[18:27] <mr_lou> Then install the packages libbluray and libbluray-bdj
[18:30] <aliteralmind> I have set up a remote Ubuntu folder on my Windows machine with SFTP Net Drive, so I can edit files on Windows.
[18:31] <aliteralmind> But when I shell into the server (Ubuntu), I have to prefix everything with "sudo".
[18:31] <aliteralmind> So the problem I'm having is that, although I can read the files just fine on Windows, I can't save them, because the files are owned by root.
[18:32] <aliteralmind> (This is as per these instructions: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-create-your-first-digitalocean-droplet-virtual-server)
[18:32] <dhruvasagar> Hey guys, I am seriously annoyed with this problem, 'disable touchpad while typing' doesn't work, i've tried a few suggested fixes from whatever I could find but none seem to work, I am using ubuntu 14.04, any help would be appreciated
[18:33] <robgault> has anyone experienced a problem connecting to newer Cisco IOS devices with ubuntu 14.04 (openssh 6.6.1)?
[18:34] <Beldar> mr_lou, when you go 3rd party (out of the ubuntu repos) you loose support from some here. You have to weigh whether this is really worth the effort in the end time wise. Really you should have the skill sets to do this.
[18:35] <Beldar> mr_lou, Did you address the original issue here or the ubuntu forums before this quest?
[18:35] <mr_lou> Beldar, Original issue? No, haven't mentioned this anywhere.
[18:35] <aliteralmind> I was about to ask if I should chmod the files, or chown them. It seems chown is the solution, because chmod would require opening it up to more users than I want.
[18:35] <aliteralmind> Thanks anyway.
[18:35] <aliteralmind> Just rubber ducked myself  :)
[18:35] <expunge> ha
[18:36] <Beldar> robgault, Addressing the actual issue with details=help here.
[18:36] <mr_lou> Beldar, Well....  I need it. :->   I have this urge to do Blu-ray Java development. I can use PowerDVD on Windoze but I refuse to go the Windoze path.
[18:36] <Beldar> mr_lou, That is the best start, if you can't do the way you are trying basically.
[18:36] <mr_lou> Beldar, Ok.
[18:36] <viknesh1> how do i upgrade to kernel 16 released few days back ???
[18:37] <robgault> I'm not able to connect to fully updated/patched IOS devices with openssh v6.6.1 - the version that shipps with Ubuntu 14.04.01 LTS.
[18:37] <Beldar> mr_lou, Spell windows correctly please, that is not really acceptable here. ;)
[18:38] <coventry> On a machine with full-disk encryption, I had to move the sata plugs around in order to accomodate a large graphics card.  The system won't boot now, because the ID of the boot drive has changed.  What do I need to change to get it to boot.  (I've already booted the machine from a rescue disk, and mounted the drive.  It is showing up as /dev/sdb1, and I can see the grub directorty, the initrd image, etc.)
[18:38] <Beldar> I wont help those that spell that way, it shows a general attitude not worth dealing with. mr_lou
[18:39] <vlt> coventry: How far does it get?
[18:39] <coventry> vlt: It says it can't find disk <disk-id>, and drops me in the grub prompt.
[18:40] <vlt> coventry: In the grub prompt try an "ls". What do you get?
[18:40] <Freshgale> Hello
[18:40] <mr_lou> Beldar, You might be taking things a bit too seriously. ;-)
[18:40] <expunge> hello Freshgale
[18:41] <Freshgale> I can't boot on Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-32 (might not be the exact numbers)
[18:41] <coventry> vlt: Is there a simple way to determine that from a root prompt when booted from a rescue disk?  The rescue USB stick is a bit slow, takes a couple of minutes to boot from.
[18:41] <Freshgale> I get this : http://www.image-heberg.fr/files/140732671600137.jpg
[18:41] <Freshgale> But I can normally boot on Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-30
[18:42] <vlt> Freshgale: cat /proc/cmdline
[18:42] <Freshgale> but I have to go to the Ubuntu Advanced Options in Grub for it
[18:42] <viknesh1> how do i upgrade to kernel 16 released few days back ???
[18:42] <vlt> Freshgale: blkid
[18:42] <viknesh1> sorry 3.16
[18:42] <vlt> Freshgale: Please enter these commands
[18:43] <Beldar> mr_lou,  I have sent many hours here over years and on the ubuntu forums, it is a pretty solid hypothesis. It is not my resolvability to check every user for a functional process, it is hard enough with people who seem to presenting one as is. ;)
[18:43] <Freshgale> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-30-generic root=UUID=0ee3dee3-df6e-48a4-a9f4-9430913ff15b ro quiet splash
[18:43] <Beldar> responsibility*
[18:43] <Freshgale> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7972647/
[18:43] <Beldar> mr_lou, Try being a helper and you will get what I mean.
[18:43] <coventry> vlt: I get "(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos5) (hd1,msdos1)"
[18:44] <mr_lou> Beldar, Oh I help out on various coding channels a lot, and on StackOverflow.com too.
[18:44] <Ahmed> Hey there… Is there a way to apt-get install php 5.4 on Ubuntu 14.0.4?
[18:44] <mr_lou> Beldar, Can I call it Wintendo then? ;-P
[18:44] <collinjsimpson> Windoesnt
[18:44] <expunge> coventry: some BIOSes can reorder devices independently of the cables
[18:45] <expunge> worth a check
[18:45] <Beldar> mr_lou, The channel asks for correct use, it is not just me.
[18:45] <mr_lou> hehe
[18:45] <vlt> Freshgale: The paste is not from the iniramfs prompt, right?
[18:45] <vlt> *initramfs
[18:45] <Freshgale> nope
[18:45] <Beldar> mr_lou, Mutter what you like. here we ask for straight correct spelling. ;)
[18:46] <Freshgale> but actually, I can't speak here while typing on the iniramfs
[18:46] <vlt> coventry: Hmmm… "ls (hd0,msdos1)"
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Ahmed  if you apt-get install, you'll get 5.5.9 ... any reason you want 5.4?
[18:47] <Ahmed> MonkeyDust: Some software that is yet to support 5.5, unfortunately.
[18:47] <Ahmed> I’m trying not to switch to Debian Wheezy for 5.4
[18:47] <vlt> Freshgale: Ah, ok. The error you've showm us says that the required root device (sda6 in your case) could not be found.
[18:48] <Beldar> mr_lou, Problem is that is a fanboi red flag, which itself can make things difficult. All OS have there use contextually. I started on open source myself, but realize this. ;)
[18:48] <Freshgale> it also speaks about that UUID
[18:49] <Beldar> their*
[18:49] <vlt> Freshgale: The kernel is told to use the device with that UUID (which turns out to be sda6) as root but it is not found at that stage of boot process.
[18:49] <mr_lou> Beldar, You call it an attitude. It takes years to build up such an attitude. There are many reasons I left that platform 15 years ago and never looked back. It has cost me a lot, and I'll never respect that OS nor the company behind it. But I will of course respect channel rules, in the channels I visit.
[18:49] <mr_lou> Beldar, But for now, I'm off again. So thanks for your help. :-) Take care.
[18:50] <Beldar> Freshgale, I would plug as originally and go from there, with a backup, what your doing is a huge waste of time.
[18:50] <coventry> vlt: "error: invalid file name ''."
[18:50] <Beldar> mr_lou, Not worth the attitude and you jst proved my point.
[18:51] <Beldar> there are bigger issues in the world than bias on OS mr_lou
[18:51] <vlt> coventry: I can't imagine that it was NOT hd0 and hd1 before you replugged. Could you just swap the cables?
[18:51] <mr_lou> Beldar, You call it an attitude. I really don't regard it as anything but not-taking-things-that-serious.
[18:51] <mr_lou> Beldar, Exactly.
[18:52] <KingSkorpion> MonkeyDust, now my pc works correctly, thanks a lot for your help!
[18:52] <Beldar> mr_lou, You want to just argue is all, I am just saying it is not worth helpinh biased user from my point of view, I'm not paid it is a donation. ;)
[18:52] <vlt> Beldar: And you didn't capitalize Windows! GTFO! :-D
[18:52] <vexati0n> canonical seriously needs to invest in a bandwidth upgrade.
[18:52] <mr_lou> Beldar, There are bigger things, so why keep debating this? You're the one who's keeping on the arguing.
[18:53] <Beldar> mr_lou, I'm just answering you, I gave you the channel norms yet you continue to argue.
[18:53] <collinjsimpson> this beldar...
[18:54] <Beldar> read the posts collinjsimpson
[18:54] <mr_lou> Beldar, Ok we definitely have different definitions of the word "argue". But let me just make it simple and stop it by leaving. :-) See ya.
[18:54] <Beldar> excellent
[18:54] <coventry> vlt: Hmm, I might be able to switch them at the drives, even though I can't on the mobo.  Will check.
[18:55] <collinjsimpson> Beldar: isnt this just a friendly IRC channel. i dont think any of what you've been complaining about has distracted any of us from any of our discussions about ubuntu. loosen up and enjoy the buntus
[18:56] <collinjsimpson> speaking of which, does anyone know if i can increase the update response time of my compiz taskbars when changing workspaces
[18:56] <coventry> vlt: Thanks, that fixed it.
[18:56] <vlt> coventry: np
[18:59] <Gnorm> so, I have a mostly untouched fresh install of 14.04, but I can't get Gnome extensions to install through Firefox, via https://extensions.gnome.org/  anyone have any insight? I don't see the Gnome integration plugin in about:addons but I don't know where to *get* it, either.
[18:59] <Beldar> Gnorm, The exstensions are for the gnome shell.
[19:00] <Gnorm> right. that's what I want to install... specifically Backslide
[19:00] <Gnorm> but every reference I can find to it links me to extensions.gnome.org which says I don't have the browser addon I need.
[19:00] <Beldar> Gnorm, Have you installed the gnome-shell? Is the exstension site recognize this?
[19:01] <Beldar> recognizing*
[19:01] <Gnorm> wait... I may be making an incorrect assumption.  what's the window manager for 14.04? (I've been out of desktop Linux for a few years)
[19:01] <Beldar> Gnorm, opera and chrome work with the extension website automatically, not sure why FF has this issue.
[19:02] <Beldar> Gnorm, Window manager depends on the desktop.
[19:03] <Beldar> Gnorm, Do you know what the gnome-shell is?
[19:03] <Lupus33> Ìû
[19:05] <Lupus33> Ìû
[19:05] <Beldar> !ot | Lupus33
[19:05] <Gnorm> Beldar: I think the answer I need is "Ubuntu's default desktop/WM isn't Gnome, anymore."
[19:05] <expunge> Gnorm: it is GNOME, it's just not 100% ordinary GNOME
[19:05] <Lupus33> Ìû
[19:05] <expunge> you can still use 100% ordinary GNOME if you want
[19:05] <Gnorm> aha!
[19:06] <expunge> have to install a package, and change your login pref
[19:06] <expunge> it's easy =)
[19:06] <expunge> Lupus33: you know you're sending gibberish? =)
[19:06] <Naphatul> what's the equivalent of enabling a service in systemd for upstart?
[19:06] <Lupus33> Ìû
[19:06] <Beldar> Gnorm, The ubuntu desktop unity is on top of gnome 3 and a plugin in compiz, the extensions don't work in unity basically. They are for the gnome-shell the actual gnome 3 desktop shell, it is in the ubuntu repos.
[19:07] <Beldar> Lupus33,  Why are you posting that?
[19:07] <Gnorm> okiedoke.  seems easy enough.  thanks expunge and Beldar.  I'll dig into it and I'll pop back if I need m ore info. :)
[19:07] <kostkon> Gnorm, although its next iteration, unity8, is not gonna be gnome-based anymore
[19:08] <expunge> Gnorm: /query ubottu notunity
[19:08] <Lupus33> Ìû
[19:08] <Beldar> !ops | Lupus33 repeated non support post
[19:08] <popey> Lupus33: please stop
[19:08] <popey> or that
[19:09] <expunge> why is #ubuntu's bot the only one that spams the channel with the ops command? =/
[19:09] <phunyguy> most channels have it.
[19:09] <phunyguy> but pelase don't test it :)
[19:09] <expunge> have the command, yeah
[19:09] <phunyguy> please*
[19:09] <idefine> where do I specify options for upstart? Specifically I'd like to set a value for --logdir
[19:09] <asuslaptop> guys I was updating my laptop bios .. n flash went bad now laptop won't even turn on.. what to do? no led lights nothing
[19:10] <Naphatul> what's the equivalent of enabling a service in systemd for upstart?
[19:10] <Beldar> asuslaptop, bios flashing is not really a ubuntu support issue tryb #hardware
[19:10] <jon-work> is the 12.04->14.04.1 LTS upgrade expected to be released? or should I just do a series of point releases from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10->14.04?
[19:11] <Beldar> asuslaptop, I would guess you have a nice door stopper now.
[19:11] <kostkon> jon-work, yes, just be patient, there are some bugs that need to be ironed out first
[19:11] <jon-work> is there a place where I can see development occur? some open bug or something?
[19:11] <Beldar> asuslaptop, ##hardware actually
[19:12] <Beldar> asuslaptop, I would contact the manufacturer.
[19:12] <kostkon> Beldar, he's left :/
[19:12] <Beldar> cool
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> brb
[19:14] <Beldar> kostkon, Thanks I generally catch that I have join part off.
[19:14] <Beldar> most users at least try to communicate
[19:14] <kostkon> Beldar, np
[19:15] <Beldar> time for physical therapy with nurse ratchet take it easy all.
[19:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is xfs the fastest performer for a raid?
[19:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> this is for an ubuntu install on a raid 0.
[19:16] <Kollosus> I want to install Ubuntu the first time. Do I need ethernet drivers for the mainboard like on windows to get an internet connection?
[19:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Kollosus, nope.
[19:17] <expunge> Kollosus: yes, but it'll probably come with them
[19:17] <Pici> (depends on the chipset)
[19:17] <expunge> Kollosus: it will probably 'just work'
[19:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Kollosus, err yah; just boot up the live cd, and it will most likely 99 percent of the time, just work
[19:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the live cd allows you to test it without having to install it.
[19:18] <Kollosus> ok, the vendor doesn't even provide linux drivers for the mainboard.
[19:18] <expunge> most vendors don't
[19:18] <expunge> the vast majority of drivers are made by volunteers
[19:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> err most do
[19:18] <expunge> people who want their systems to work well and reliably
[19:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> they just advertise it.
[19:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> most companies have one kernel dev or another
[19:20] <Kollosus> ok, thanks. this helped me out.
[19:24] <unvs_> Hi. My server provider emailed me about high outgoing traffic from my server. I ssh'ed in and ran nethogs to see what was happening. It wouldn't show any process names, but there was a bunch of action going out from my server to an IP address in Italy, so I immidiately suspected I'd been hacked and someone has installed some DDoS software. Is there anyone who knows what steps I can take to investigate further? I had to shut down the machine to li
[19:24] <unvs_> the damages done, but I have it booted up in Finnix recovery now.
[19:25] <expunge> unvs_: if you suspect your installation has been compromised, and you don't have anything to authenticate it against, your only recourse is reinstallation
[19:26] <expunge> unvs_: next time install something like AIDE, so you won't have to reinstall again
[19:26] <expunge> or just make a backup you can restore from at any time
[19:27] <unvs_> expunge: AIDE sounds great! A bit late for me now though :) I've got backups, but no way to know which ones are compromised.
[19:27] <expunge> unvs_: yeah, chicken and egg problem
[19:27] <unvs_> expunge: What commands would you run to get a general idea of what's going on in my situation? nethogs didn't enlighten me much.
[19:28] <expunge> unvs_: I wouldn't even bother
[19:28] <expunge> oh just to see how they got in?
[19:28] <expunge> go through your logs
[19:28] <expunge> but if they well and truly compromised the system, there could be no trace
[19:29] <unvs_> OK. Nethogs shows loads of connections to two different IPs on different ports every time, so I imagine it's a DDoS at least?
[19:30] <jhutchins> expunge: You can run somethinig like chkrootkit, but if it's been compromised the only way to be safe is a clean install including formatting the disk.
[19:30] <jhutchins> unvs_: ^
[19:30] <jhutchins> expunge: Sorry, wrong nic.
[19:31] <jhutchins> unvs_: That doesn't sound like ddos, that somes like some phone-home remote exploit.
[19:31] <expunge> unvs_: from your install, or to it?
[19:32] <unvs_> hmm. maybe *I'M* getting ddosed
[19:33] <unvs_> cause a line in Nethogs looks like this:
[19:33] <expunge> well everybody gets ddosed
[19:33] <unvs_> ?     root     178.79.xxx.xxx:80-2.150.xx.xxx:39966                                                                                    961.761      22.893 KB
[19:33] <expunge> your system could be secure
[19:33] <unvs_> 178.79.xxx is me, 2.150.xx is the remote
[19:34] <unvs_> But the warning from my provider specified that outbound traffic rate was above threshold
[19:35] <unvs_> I find it so hard to diagnose, is all :)
[19:36] <expunge> might ask -server or #security
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> i'm using 12.04 ... what's the kernel version in 14.04.1 ? (uname -r)
[19:38] <ObrienDave> i have 3.13.0-32-generic
[19:38] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: 3.13.0-32-generic
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> nvm, setting up 14.04.1 chroot
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> ok, tnx
[19:39] <unvs_> There are boatloads of requests in my webserver log. I have loads of illustrations on a website, and it seems someone is downloading the whole website through something called "AndroidDownloadManager"
[20:01] <laspahr> hey, anyone on here handy with google sheets?
[20:01] <ObrienDave> as in spreadsheets?
[20:02] <expunge> cotton google sheets
[20:03] <laspahr> yeah, spreadsheets
[20:03] <laspahr> I plugged this formula in: =ARRAYFORMULA(IF((K2:K*15) + M2:M = 0, "" , (K2:K*15) + M2:M))
[20:03] <laspahr> and it gave me a #REF! error
[20:05] <FunkyELF> Hey guys... I downloaded Ampache and extracted it to /var/www/html/ampache and everything works fine when I go to "http://hostname/ampache" but I don't want to have to put the /ampache there.  How can I host it as the root?
[20:06] <sukrit> here . Does anyone know why are ec2 mirrors not in http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt ?   Or can I use all the ec2 mirrors and create my own mirrors.txt.  Is there any issue with that approach ?
[20:07] <expunge> FunkyELF: find /var/www/html/ampache/ -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -exec mv -n {} /var/www/html/ampache/ \;
[20:07] <expunge> FunkyELF: something like that
[20:07] <expunge> FunkyELF: the slightly more comprehensive way of doing mv -n ampache/* . && rmdir ampache
[20:07] <FunkyELF> expunge: I will try
[20:08] <yogeshp> I was trying to install 14.04 on G505s amd a10 and I could not boot the machine; but live cd works well
[20:08] <yogeshp> the moment i load initrd system is stuck (in the grub)
[20:09] <ObrienDave> laspahr, LibreOffice Calc does not recognize arrayformula
[20:09] <yogeshp> any way to to fix this?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> laspahr, are you sure google sheets does?
[20:12] <jhutchins> yogeshp: What exactly is on the screen?
[20:12] <yogeshp> jhutchins: nothing its blank.
[20:13] <yogeshp> search the internet to find anything specific with this laptop and people have same complaint about the laptop.
[20:13] <yogeshp> some say its because UEFI boot
[20:14] <yogeshp> I doubt that since I cross check the boot up method and its BIO
[20:14] <l337> heya, can anyone help me with installing a SSL cert on Ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[20:14] <hey_joe> free shell account for life for whomever comes up with a clever, available .com domain for me to use.
[20:15] <supercom32> When you run 'blkid' to list all the devices and what filesystem they are formatted to, what returns for the 'TYPE' field when there is no file system applied yet?
[20:15] <l337> hey_joe: any theme
[20:15] <l337> hey_joe: screaky.com
[20:16] <hey_joe> thats not bad
[20:16] <l337> ah fuck, it's gone
[20:16] <hey_joe> kinda wanted like home, shell, source, code, or something in the domain
[20:16] <SamwiseGamgee> what happened to the #ubuntuforums channel?
[20:16] <hey_joe> yeah i thought up a bunch of good ones...
[20:16] <hey_joe> all taken. :/
[20:16] <expunge> SamwiseGamgee: still there?
[20:16] <DraZoro> Which file should I configure to mount "NFS" share automatically from within "LTSP-Client".
[20:16] <SamwiseGamgee> everyone from that channel disappeared
[20:17] <mjrbordo> im here
[20:17] <expunge> 'cause it's a pointless secondary communication medium... for a primary communication medium?
[20:17] <mjrbordo> but im the one who need help
[20:17] <l337> hey_joe: pafter.com is available
[20:17] <hey_joe> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pafter
[20:17] <l337> something's gonna give
[20:17] <SP33D> Lo any one has a idea how i can filter out one error msg from syslog-ng i mean i get always one error msg that i cant solv the next monthes and it fills my logs
[20:18] <SP33D> i need to some how stripe that out only that one error
[20:18] <mjrbordo> anybody know smth about problems with installing ubuntu 14 on SSD ?
[20:18] <l337> can anyone please help me with installing a SSL cert on Ubuntu 12.04LTS? :(
[20:18] <hey_joe> i can
[20:18] <hey_joe> l337: what do you need help with?
[20:19] <l337> mind if I pm?
[20:19] <hey_joe> sure
[20:20] <gazzerh> SP33D: try looking at: not match() filter directive
[20:20] <mjrbordo> foka
[20:21] <mjrbordo> still here ?
[20:22] <phelix> how can i find the path to an executable from the launcher bar?
[20:22] <phelix> there is an icon on there and I want to see where the executable for it is
[20:22] <mjrbordo> how can i install ubuntu 14 on ssd?
[20:22] <jhutchins> phelix: try right-clicking it and checking for properties.
[20:23] <phelix> I tried that. there is no properties
[20:23] <phelix> none of my icons have a properties.. jsut launch or unlock
[20:23] <jhutchins> phelix: If that doesn't work, open a terminal, do ps ax, launch the program, ps ax again and see what it runs.
[20:23] <phelix> ahh yah why didn't i think about that
[20:23] <phelix> ok
[20:23] <phelix>  got it
[20:23] <jhutchins> xlnt
[20:24] <mjrbordo> ?
[20:24] <guntbert> mjrbordo: the same way as on a hdd
[20:25] <mjrbordo> i tried
[20:25] <mjrbordo> and it dosnt work
[20:25] <mjrbordo> like no boot installed
[20:25] <mjrbordo> i got 2 disks
[20:26] <mjrbordo> hdd and ssd but one connected to comp at time
[20:26] <mjrbordo> when i connect hdd its normal. installed ubuntu works as it should but on ssd it doesnt
[20:27] <mjrbordo> just want to install and install
[20:27] <mjrbordo> untill i take off the usb installer
[20:27] <mjrbordo> then its just doesnt start
[20:31] <blubberbop> So I'm running kubuntu 14.04, I'm tryin to get netflix to work on my machine, and tried http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/  It opens firefox with netflix, I can navigate there, but the second I try to see a movie or show, it asks me to install silverlight.. I tried downloading silverlight, but it fails at install saying that update components are missing.. Anybody who might know a solution to this?
[20:32] <jhutchins> mjrbordo: Nothing special about ssds, they're just drives.  What's probably happening is that the drives are being labeled differently.
[20:32] <jhutchins> mjrbordo: I have one running here on ssd.  Man is it fast!
[20:33] <mjrbordo> yep ssd is incredibly fast
[20:33] <mjrbordo> i got samsung evo 840
[20:34] <jhutchins> mjrbordo: Could you state the problem more clearly?
[20:34] <mjrbordo> so what i do wrong? im setting 2 partitions one for root 15 GB and 25 for home... no swap cuz i got 6 gb ram
[20:34] <mjrbordo> just dont start
[20:35] <mjrbordo> like i wasnt install anything on it
[20:35] <mjrbordo> previos i get 4 gb swap
[20:37] <mjrbordo> but with or without it doesnt matter. Affter instalation in rebooting when i dont take off the pendrive grub doesnt show run ubuntu ask me about live running or installing
[20:38] <mjrbordo> when i install and plugged off the install usb ubuntu doesnt start... and its happend on ssd onlu
[20:43] <trijntje> what is the best program to use for maximum compression? I won't be looking at the data for a long time, so I don't mind if its CPU intensive to compress/decompress
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[20:44] <laspahr> ObrienDave: Yes, I'm sure because I've used ARRAYFORMULA on other cells, just not in conjunction with IF
[20:45] <trijntje> MonkeyDust, thanks
[20:45] <jimi_> I am installing ubuntu server in a vm. It will be lamp stack and mail server. No X windowing at all. How much ram should I allocate for this given that it wont be using graphical?
[20:45] <laspahr> sorry for the delayed response, I was trying to organize some stuff and I ended up getting three Desktops, all working condition, two XP and one Vista
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> jimi_  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:45] <laspahr> which will soon be changed to Ubuntu heh
[20:46] <jimi_> MonkeyDust, I will try asking there. Thanks
[20:48] <mykrob76> evening, all. I need help formatting  USB drive. I get errors using any of the GUI tools. What's a command I can try? I need to wipe it so I can install a live disk to USB
[20:49] <carlo> carlo
[20:49] <funkyHat> mykrob76: what are the errors you get, and which GUI tools have you tried?
[20:49] <mykrob76> funkyHat, just a sec, i may have finally made some progress.
[20:51] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[20:52] <mykrob76> funkyHat, i tried the disk utility, and also the "erase disk" method in the startup disk creator, and both failed. However, I just tried disk utility again and it worked when I chose ext4 as the file system... weirdness.. before i tried vfat
[20:53] <Bundestrojaner> i've connected a STM32 devboard to my pc (usb), but i can't acces it as user. When i start the debug-server with sudo, it connects to it.
[20:53] <Bundestrojaner> What's the best way to solve this problem?
[20:53] <ObrienDave> laspahr, hmm, there are examples with IF but i don't know how to use ARRAYFORMULA
[20:53] <mykrob76> trying now to write an iso to usb by command line instead of the startup disk creator
[20:55] <SP33D> filename='/proc/kmsg' how can i tell syslog to don't do this
[20:55] <SP33D> :D
[20:56] <Bundestrojaner> as it seems, every usb-device but storage devices are only accesable by root. How can i make it accesable by my user?
[20:56] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AIBIeSR6
[20:56] <ezio> i have my timezone set to America/Toronto.  it tells me that it's 1556 but it's 1656
[20:56] <ezio> any help?
[20:57] <ezio> my clock keeps getting set back
[20:58] <SP33D> syslog-ng --no-caps has no effect
[20:58] <Bundestrojaner> ezio: dualboot with windows?
[20:58] <joelmo> I have setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps, but this setting does not apply when i plug in a usb keyboard, do you know how to fix this, im not running gnome
[20:58] <ezio> Bundestrojaner, vmware
[21:00] <l337> is anyone familiar with Zpanel around here?
[21:01] <Bundestrojaner> ezio: windows seems to have another format for time.
[21:01] <Bundestrojaner> when i boot windows, clock is wrong. When i set it and chance back to linux, it's wrong there
[21:01] <jhutchins> ezio: vmware on windows?
[21:02] <jhutchins> Bundestrojaner: Linux assumes the hardware clock is set to GMT, Windows assumes it's set to local time.
[21:02] <meecoder> probably broken system clock Bundestrojaner?
[21:02] <jhutchins> meecoder: No, very well known issue with dual-boot.
[21:03] <jhutchins> Bundestrojaner: http://lifehacker.com/5742148/fix-windows-clock-issues-when-dual-booting-with-os-x
[21:04] <jhutchins> Bundestrojaner: That's fixing Windows, you can also tell Linux the clock uses local time.
[21:04] <jhutchins> Bundestrojaner: To make Linux use local time edit /etc/default/rcS and change UTC=yes to UTC=no
[21:04] <Bundestrojaner> jhutchins: i don't really care about it, because i use windows only for 2 games...
[21:05] <Bundestrojaner> jhutchins: but thx anyway
[21:05] <jhutchins> ezio: Being off by one hour sounds like it didn't apply DST.
[21:06] <omosoj> hey guys, simple question. i'm on the command line and when i type a command it returns a bunch of stuff. how can i get that stuff into a file?
[21:07] <mrwappie> i got a problem with me wireshark when i copy me coockie file as a printable text only. i cant copy it with the wireshark coockie past function
[21:07] <debsan> omosoj, command > file
[21:07] <Bundestrojaner> jhutchins: canada has DST?
[21:08] <omosoj> awesome, debsan. thanks!
[21:08] <mrwappie> some one knows what to do?
[21:08] <jhutchins> Bundestrojaner: Yep, and electricity and internet and everything.
[21:08] <Bundestrojaner> jhutchins: lol, i don't consider dst as progressive
[21:09] <Bundestrojaner> in my country, we have dst and there are discussions to cancel it
[21:09] <bekks> Bundestrojaner: Since when? :)
[21:10] <Bundestrojaner> bekks: since when what? dst or the discussions?
[21:10] <bekks> Bundestrojaner: The discussion about cancelling DST.
[21:10] <ObrienDave> electricity and internet and everything. ;P
[21:10] <jhutchins> People are always arguing about DST.
[21:11] <Bundestrojaner> bekks: it appears in the newspapers every few years
[21:11]  * bprompt bets canada doesn't have kangoroos
[21:11] <bekks> Bundestrojaner: As always, shortly before and after the actual DST events. :)
[21:12] <HiddenDjinn> bprompt: incorrect, there are kangaroos in a few canadian zoos
[21:12]  * Bundestrojaner bets soviet russia moves the country instead of resetting the clocks
[21:13] <HiddenDjinn> Bundestrojaner: move to moscow and find out
[21:13] <Jefff> Has anyone had a problem before where drop down menus sometimes automatically click one of the items?
[21:13] <Jefff> Like, if I click on a file menu and start moving down quickly, sometimes it will just click where my mouse is on whatever item happens to be there..
[21:14] <Jefff> I tried searching but couldn't find anything on Google about this..
[21:14] <Kollosus> When will I stop crying after switching from windows to linux? Feels like I lost my home, being in the middle of the woods.
[21:14] <Bundestrojaner> HiddenDjinn: you mean visit russia before russia visits you? :D
[21:14] <HiddenDjinn> Bundestrojaner: pretty much
[21:16] <theseb> help! i put a symbolic link to my vhosts in /etc/apache2/sites-available and sites-enabled but apache is ignoring it!?? any ideas?
[21:16] <darkangel> Just out of curiousness what Type of development code does Ubuntu OS use?
[21:16] <bekks> theseb: did you reload or restart apache?
[21:17] <mrwappie> JEFF just reinstall your mouse drivers :)
[21:18] <Jefff> Is there a guide to doing that?
[21:20] <theseb> bekks: yes...is there some mod or other thing you need to enable to use vhosts in apache in ubuntu?
[21:23] <demoz> Hello , can someone tell me how can i run checks for file change and in case file changed to execute python script :) ? Any ideas? I have no clue what for to search
[21:23] <bekks> theseb: This might help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450722/why-not-work-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04
[21:26] <theseb> bekks: i need to "enable" the vhosts file with "a2ensite the_file_name" ...but when I do it says ERROR: Site philfour.com.vhost does not exist!
[21:26] <theseb> bekks: but i'm looking at the file right now!?
[21:30] <slb> hi, has anyone installed ubunto 14.04 LTS on a recent Windows 8 or 8.1 machine?
[21:31] <xangua_> !uefi | slb
[21:31] <thecha> what do you do in ubuntu if oyur application crashes
[21:31] <thecha> and you can't exit anymore
[21:31] <Dickens> force quit it
[21:31] <thecha> how
[21:31] <Dickens> magic
[21:31] <magic> Magic?
[21:31] <Dickens> just kidding
[21:31] <thecha> i dont use magic
[21:31] <magic> thecha: Thank you.
[21:32] <thecha> it's agaisnt my belive
[21:32] <Dickens> thecha you can use the system monitor
[21:32] <thecha> but what if i am in a game it is fullscreen and i cant even leave the game
[21:32] <Dickens> or you can use the cli and find the process id and just type kill <process ID>
[21:32] <thecha> i cant open lci iehte
[21:32] <thecha> r
[21:32] <thecha> cli either
[21:33] <thecha> i am stuck in the window of this game wanting out
[21:33] <thecha> and trying everything but  it all has just frozen up
[21:33] <Dickens> well... you can normally set keyboard shortcuts
[21:33] <thecha> i have a keyboard shortcut for cli
[21:33] <Dickens> but i dont think the sys monitor has a default one to launch it
[21:33] <Dickens> then you can use that
[21:33] <thecha> but it wont react once i crrashe dthe application
[21:34] <Dickens> you need to know the PID
[21:34] <thecha> but i cant
[21:34] <Dickens> oh
[21:34] <Dickens> well then reboot
[21:34] <Dickens> lol
[21:34] <thecha> i cant even open a cli
[21:34] <thecha> gee that took long enough :D
[21:34] <thecha> that is what i did
[21:34] <thecha> and i wanted to knwo if there is another way
[21:35] <thecha> liek some hiiden superfeature like pressing ctrl  and winkey and alt andd shift and f 2 to f8  and o all at the same time
[21:35] <thecha> DIckens are oiyu a power user?
[21:36] <auxo> join #lainchan
[21:36] <Dickens> i dont consider my self a guru but i do know how to use the CLI
[21:36] <thecha> wow very leet
[21:36] <thecha> how long ahve you been using cli for?
[21:38] <tag> So a while back I managed to disable the Alt key triggering the HUD
[21:39] <tag> And enable all my favorite uses of alt to just work as desired
[21:39] <nekyian_> I have a problem saving the configuration I chosen for a monitor with xrandr and cvt. I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and can't find the xorg.conf anymore
[21:40] <nekyian_> not that I had one....
[21:40] <thecha> have you tried searching it via ubnity?
[21:40] <nekyian_> how do I do that?
[21:40] <tag> such as, emacs/readline key bindings, vim shortcuts, and such.  But today, apparently related to some update recently, this broke.
[21:40] <rww> ubottu: xorg.conf
[21:40] <nekyian_> I searched for it with locate
[21:40] <thecha> unity allowws you to search for the files on your computer whiel alsop informing amazon of your search terms
[21:40] <thecha> :)
[21:41] <rww> It's not created by default any more, hence probably why you can't find it ;)
[21:41] <tag> how can I get my alt key back?
[21:41] <slb> so, if windows won't boot is UEFI Boot is disabled, then does that indicate that Windows is installed in EFI mode and Ubuntu also needs to be installed in EFI mode per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:41] <nekyian_> I only have a xorg.conf.d folder
[21:41] <slb> so, if windows won't boot *if* UEFI Boot is disabled, then does that indicate that Windows is installed in EFI mode and Ubuntu also needs to be installed in EFI mode per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:41] <rww> slb: sounds about right
[21:42] <slb> anyone with experience in doing such an installation here?
[21:42] <rww> slb: generally I'd recommend turning Secure Boot off and leaving UEFI on when dual-booting with an existing Windows 8.1 installation
[21:42] <rww> slb: theoretically Ubuntu works with Secure Boot on I think, but it hasn't worked for me so...
[21:42] <thecha> rww→ how about with an preexisting win 7
[21:42] <rww> thecha: then it depends on whether Windows 7 was installed in UEFI mode or not
[21:42] <thecha> what is uefi mode and safe mode?
[21:42] <nekyian_> I just want to save what I did with xrandr and cvt... How do I do that?
[21:43] <thecha> user enabled formating i..something mdoe?
[21:43] <slb> rww and also turning off Intel Fast Start, correct?
[21:43] <thecha> nekyian_→ if it only were that simple
[21:43] <nekyian_> :)
[21:43] <nekyian_> that is not good
[21:43] <rww> thecha: UEFI is a firmware standard that's used on a lot of modern computers. It replaces BIOS. UEFI firmwares tend to have a legacy mode that emulates BIOS. Secure boot is an optional UEFI component that allows systems to mandate that only signed operating systems run.
[21:44] <thecha> i have an actualy bios
[21:44] <rww> slb: I don't know, sorry.
[21:44] <thecha> i have a physical chip
[21:44] <thecha> with bios on it
[21:44] <thecha> so this doesnt affect me?
[21:44] <thecha> i still have troubole wit windows everytume i ran ubuntu
[21:45] <rww> thecha: well no, if your computer doesn't use UEFI than UEFI is not particularly relevant to you.
[21:45] <thecha> it seems as if ubuntu is slowly murdering win 7 to get more resources
[21:46] <thecha> I am gonna make some money! and then i am gonna buy a dedicated ubuntu machine
[21:46] <thecha> i am tired of the dualboot
[21:46] <slb> rww can i use a regular 14.04 live usb to install? i've seen some guidance re using a EFI only live usb??
[21:47] <rww> slb: as long as your firmware is set to normal UEFI mode and not legacy/BIOS, then using a regular 14.04 LiveUSB created with the methods linked from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop will work fine, as it will have a UEFI partition set up already.
[21:48] <rww> i.e., our LiveUSBs (when created properly) boot under both UEFI and BIOS, and will set up the disk accordingly based on how the computer is booted
[21:49] <slb> rww i created mine from a computer running ubuntu using startup disk creator and the 14.04 64 bit iso. is that adequate?
[21:49] <rww> slb: yes
[21:51] <slb> rww, gparted only shows me a regular fat32 partition on the USB (guessing that is UEFI  boot compatible?)
[21:54] <rww> slb: I don't have the partition layout of the LiveUSB to hand right now, but if it was made by Startup Disk Creator it should be fine. You can check from within the LiveUSB session by running "ls /sys/firmware/efi/" from the terminal. If you get a list of files, you're in UEFI mode
[21:54] <rww> (if the LiveUSB isn't UEFI capable, you won't be in UEFI mode)
[21:55] <slb> rww, thanks
[21:55] <brum01> hello
[21:56] <brum01> hello, i was just wondering if anybody knew a Ubuntu compatible AlienFX Driver?
[22:01] <slb> rww, working i'm in UEFI mode, cool
[22:01] <rww> :)
[22:03] <cuddylier> Are the ubuntu mirrors really really slow?
[22:04] <ObrienDave> usually for quite a while after a major point release
[22:05] <ObrienDave> what are you looking for?
[22:05] <ice9> I'm using chromium with pepper flash, many sites can't play flash asking me to install it but youtube works fine
[22:06] <slb> rww, anyone, when installing 14.04 on a EFI Win 8.1 (for dual boot), should boot loader be installed on existing EFI partition that came with Win 8.1 machine?
[22:06] <ObrienDave> ice9, known issue with chrome, try firefox :(
[22:06] <ice9> ObrienDave: is there a bun on launchpad for it?
[22:07] <ObrienDave> bun?
[22:08] <ice9> ObrienDave: sorry bug :)
[22:09] <ObrienDave> think so, not sure
[22:10] <slb> rww, anyone, when installing 14.04 on a EFI Win 8.1 (for dual boot), should boot loader be installed on existing EFI partition that came with Win 8.1 machine?
[22:10] <slb> (sorry to repeat)
[22:12] <Footy> does anyone use 8 when they could use 7?
[22:13] <slb> darn :(
[22:14] <tiffany_> help get java woring in chrome
[22:15] <slb> Footy, use windows just for fifa2014, but EFI installation issues would be the same even if i rolled back to Win 7, and i use windows so seldom, don't care it is 7 or 8.1
[22:15] <pooltable> help get java woring in chrome
[22:15] <pooltable> and flash plugins
[22:16] <fish0417> ubuntu or deepin,which is best?
[22:17] <pooltable> getting java to work right not showing what version
[22:20] <pooltable> help with new flash and java installed
[22:28] <Lingo____> pooltable: Install JRE
[22:33] <pooltable> how
[22:42] <frain> Hi guys :D , my fellows croatians are asleep and I need help
[22:43] <frain> I have vps account and I can't use browser console because of reasons :P , I am not willing to install windows just for that.... Is it possible to connect onto that vps using terminal? I have ip and rot password
[22:44] <rww> Ask your VPS provider?
[22:44] <rww> Console access to VPSes varies based on provider...
[22:44] <frain> Not possible and I have no time
[22:44] <graingert> rww: don't you mean cloud?
[22:44] <frain> Also they only support windows
[22:44] <rww> graingert: No, I don't.
[22:44] <rww> frain: Time to get a non-awful VPS provider or use Windows then, I guess.
[22:44] <graingert> rww: pretty sure that's cloud
[22:44] <Gahhruuba> Can anyone explain why I can't change my DNS server to google dns?
[22:45] <frain> So not possible to connect? :P
[22:45] <frain> Shi* , well thanks anyway, I was sure it was possible....
[22:45] <frain> see ya
[22:46] <jak2000> hi all, how to install chrome on my ubuntu? apt-get install chrome ?
[22:46] <frain> use sudo
[22:46] <frain> it is cool
[22:46] <Gahhruuba> ^
[22:47] <graingert> Jake0720: sudo apt-get install chromium
[22:47] <graingert> Jake0720: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser **
[22:48] <Gahhruuba> jak2000, go here, and download the 32 or 64bit chrome .deb file and run it
[22:48] <Gahhruuba> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/?platform=linux
[22:51] <jak2000> hi all
[22:51] <jak2000> escuse me how to install google chrome? apt-get installl chrome or apt-get isntall google-chrome not work thanks
[22:52] <Gahhruuba> jak2000
[22:52] <Gahhruuba> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/?platform=linux
[22:52] <Gahhruuba> download either 32bit or 64bit
[22:52] <Gahhruuba> whichever one your system is
[22:52] <Gahhruuba> then just run it
[22:52] <jak2000> ok i downloaded a .deb file
[22:54] <jak2000> Gahhruuba: google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[22:54] <Gahhruuba> download it and run it
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> you can just double click .deb files
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> and they'll run in ubuntu 14.04 anyways
[22:55] <graingert> jak2000: no don't do that
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> o.O
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> unless you want to do it through terminal
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> idk
[22:55] <Gahhruuba> it worked perfectly fine for me that way.
[22:56] <graingert> jak2000: add the repo "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main " and install it with APT
[22:56] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/9451592
[22:56] <jak2000> Gahhruuba error on installation
[22:57] <idefine> hi, where can I specify options for upstart? Specifically I'd like to set a value for --logdir
[22:57] <Gahhruuba> then follow graingerts instructions, it worked for me that way.
[22:58] <jak2000> ok
[22:59] <pooltable> help with new flash and java installed
[23:00] <jak2000> graingert added to /etc/apt/sources.list  at the end, how to install with apt-get?
[23:00] <thecha> pooltable try gnash
[23:00] <graingert> jak2000: should have added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/googlechrome.list
[23:01] <antonio_> I'm planning on installing Ubuntu on a laptop someone gave to us for my gf.  Its an old machine from 2003
[23:01] <antonio_> This is the machine http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01533413&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en
[23:01] <graingert> jak2000: then do sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search chrome
[23:01] <antonio_> What is the recommended version of Ubuntu for a machine this old?  My gf really only uses Facebook and plays facebook games (flash and pogo.com)
[23:02] <pooltable> thecha how to use?
[23:03] <Gahhruuba> antonio_ linux will run on basically anything.
[23:03] <Gahhruuba> ubuntu*
[23:04] <pooltable> We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser.
[23:05] <jim1> hello
[23:06] <jim1> my log folder takes up 8 gigs of space...why?
[23:06] <antonio_> thanks
[23:11] <merfan> ima li koga
[23:13] <blubberbop> So I'm running kubuntu 14.04, I'm tryin to get netflix to work on my machine, and tried http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/ It opens firefox with netflix, I can navigate there, but the second I try to see a movie or show, it asks me to install silverlight.. I tried downloading silverlight, but it fails at install saying that update components are missing.. Anybody who might know a solution to this?
[23:14] <et09> ubuntu 14 uses pulse by default, right?
[23:15] <tolbertm1450411> yup, i think
[23:15] <et09> does it require any setup?
[23:15] <tolbertm1450411> nope
[23:16] <user42381> I just peered a bluetooth headset.  how do I get sound out of it?
[23:19] <blairexico> any IPv6 experts in the house?
[23:19] <expunge> blairexico: probably somewhere, why do you ask?
[23:19] <jeffreylevesque> which IDE do you gentlemen use?
[23:19] <expunge> I don't, I use text editors
[23:20] <expunge> jeffreylevesque: what are you developing?
[23:20] <jeffreylevesque> expunge: streaming audio from browser to server
[23:20] <wagle> after a false negative, how do I get ubuntu to retry a DNS lookup?
[23:20] <expunge> jeffreylevesque: in what language?
[23:20] <jeffreylevesque> python, php, bash
[23:21] <expunge> mmm
[23:21] <blairexico> well, I'm working on getting SLAAC (or automatic addressing) for IPv6 on ubuntu 14.04, and my ubuntu server won't respond to Router Advertisements.  the ubu box should send a request for an address when it gets a RA broadcast from my router, but it dont do a thing.
[23:21] <expunge> blairexico: there's a #networking
[23:21] <thekkid> I'm using the network manager to connect to a pptp vpn but after like 30-40 seconds it stops working. It still shows as connected but no more traffic.
[23:21] <et09> pulseaudio only works as root, i added myself to pulse, pulse-access...
[23:22] <Axizor> Hey guys I'm a complete linux noob, but I'm trying to install amd drivers and I have to kill the display manager and after I stop lightdm I just get a completely black screen, no shell... Is this normal?
[23:22] <blairexico> ok great thx expunge
[23:23] <expunge> Axizor: try hitting CTRL+ALT+F2
[23:23] <expunge> Axizor: or any key
[23:24] <Axizor> expunge: pressing those keys do nothing
[23:24] <expunge> Axizor: how did you stop the dm?
[23:24] <Axizor> service lightdm stop
[23:25] <blairexico> hmm.. expunge.. couldnt find a link to the #networking group here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList  .. is it on this freenode server?
[23:25] <Axizor> I'm actually currently on mint as I switched over to try, which is mdm
[23:25] <expunge> Axizor: and 'pgrep X' doesn't return anything?
[23:25] <Axizor> I don't know what you mean by that, expunge
[23:25] <blairexico> found it exp
[23:25] <expunge> blairexico: gj
[23:26] <Axizor> Oh sry lol
[23:27] <expunge> k... anyways
[23:27] <expunge> you know how to get to the GRUB menu?
[23:28] <Axizor> Apparently shift but that don't work for me
[23:28] <et09> is there a 'fastest package repo mirror app' for ubuntu 14?
[23:28] <expunge> Axizor: what didn't?
[23:28] <expunge> et09: netselect-apt?
[23:28] <Axizor> expunge: holding shift in the post screen didn't bring up the grub menu during boot
[23:29] <expunge> Axizor: ah, what fun
[23:29] <Axizor> expunge: am I doing so etching wrong
[23:29] <et09> hm i don't have it in the trusty 64 repo
[23:29] <expunge> Axizor: so sudo service lightdm stop and you get a black screen that is unresponsive?
[23:29] <Axizor> Doing something wrong*
[23:30] <Axizor> Yes expunge that is correct
[23:30] <slb> hi all, back to my 14.04 installation on new win 8.1 (EFI) machine (as dual boot).  using usb live disk created with startup disk creator on a ubuntu machine
[23:30] <expunge> Axizor: does the installer actually stop if you run it from within X?
[23:30] <expunge> slb: wb
[23:31] <Axizor> The OS installer
[23:31] <expunge> Axizor: huh?
[23:31] <expunge> the driver installer
[23:31] <Axizor> oh sorry
[23:31] <Axizor> Am high lol
[23:31] <expunge> heh
[23:31] <Axizor> What do you mean within x, the xorg drivers?
[23:31] <slb> when asked for device for boot loader installation, should i specify the actual EFI partition that computer came with (e.g., /dev/sda2) or just the hard drive (/dev/sda)?
[23:32] <slb> ubuntu community says /dev/sda and that installation will know to put it in the EFI partition
[23:32] <slb> making sure
[23:32] <Ananta> Is it possible to clean up your install files? Like delete unused directories and such?
[23:32] <Axizor> Expunge I figured it out
[23:32] <Eric^^> slb: something is wrong here
[23:32] <expunge> Axizor: does the amd driver installer actually fail within X, or does it merely suggest you leave X?
[23:32] <expunge> Axizor: mmm, ok, gj
[23:32] <slb> Eric^^, ??
[23:32] <expunge> Ananta: yes
[23:32] <Eric^^> slb: you shouldn't be asked about your bootloader, unless you are installing in legacy mode, i guess.
[23:33] <expunge> Ananta: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-linux-remove-unwanted-packages-and-files-to-reclaim-disk-space.html
[23:33] <Eric^^> slb: if you're installing in UEFI mode, it should detect the EFI partition
[23:33] <Axizor> Expunge within x closing display manager just crashed out, when using fglrx it was fine
[23:33] <jim1> hello, my log folder is taking up too much space currently 10 gigabytes...why?
[23:34] <Axizor> I never actually started the installer
[23:34] <Axizor> That's to be done after the manager is shut off
[23:34] <slb> Eric^^, i am in EFI mode - checked with ls /sys/firmware/efi/ and also appearance (ugly grub like text menu) when usb booted as opposed to graphic one
[23:34] <Eric^^> slb: was there a tiny man next to a usb when it loaded?
[23:34] <Eric^^> (at the bottom of the screen)
[23:34] <Axizor> Hey expunge is kde lightweight
[23:34] <slb> no
[23:35] <Eric^^> ok
[23:35] <expunge> Axizor: not really
[23:36] <d4rks1d3r> hi all
[23:37] <slb> so Eric^^ should boot loader go to /dev/sda or /dev/sda2
[23:37] <Eric^^> i guess /dev/sda2 if that's the EFI partition
[23:37] <Eric^^> hold on
[23:37] <Eric^^> 1 sec
[23:37] <expunge> d4rks1d3r: heya
[23:38] <d4rks1d3r> trying to install avahi-daemon
[23:39] <expunge> try harder
[23:39] <d4rks1d3r> but apt-get says its not available, any idea
[23:39] <Axizor> expunge: the problem is I can't be on fglrx when I use the installer but it's the only way I can close the display manager and still get a shell
[23:39] <d4rks1d3r> expunge: thanks for the advice :)
[23:40] <expunge> d4rks1d3r: check with apt-cache search avahi
[23:40] <expunge> Axizor: do it from a live OS, then
[23:40] <d4rks1d3r> nothing
[23:40] <d4rks1d3r> no output
[23:41] <et09> is netselect-apt just a script?
[23:42] <expunge> most things are just scripts
[23:43] <Eric^^> slb: did it initially point to your root partition ?
[23:44] <slb> there is no root partition yet
[23:45] <slb> i'm in the process of installing and at partitioning stage
[23:45] <Ananta> best FTP server for ubuntu?
[23:45] <slb> it initially pointed to /dev/sda
[23:46] <expunge> Ananta: openssh-server
[23:46] <absk007> why is ubuntu spying on users by sending our desktop search queries to advertisers or search engines?
[23:47] <expunge> absk007: Ubuntu is put forth by a for-profit company
[23:48] <absk007> expunge, how to stop this from happening?
[23:48] <expunge> absk007: uninstall the package
[23:48] <expunge> or use another distro
[23:49] <d4rks1d3r> trying to update apt-get, but get multiple errors like this one:
[23:49] <d4rks1d3r> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-updates/multiverse/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[23:49] <expunge> absk007: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[23:49] <d4rks1d3r> any ideas?
[23:49] <absk007> d4rks1d3r, run choose best server or choose another src.
[23:50] <d4rks1d3r> absk007: how do i do that?
[23:51] <pooltable> help installed java and flash
[23:52] <dcwilliams_VA> has anyone had issues with webex on 14.04.1?
[23:52] <absk007> d4rks1d3r, i'm not on ubuntu right now. May be someone else could
[23:52] <SchrodingersScat> dcwilliams_VA: is it you?
[23:53] <dcwilliams_VA> yes.
[23:53] <dcwilliams_VA> no video, logs in fine, and can chat and see room attendees.  I haven't used webex on Ubuntu in a while.  I recall there were some 32 bit issues a while back, is that still the case?
[23:53] <absk007> d4rks1d3r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[23:54] <d4rks1d3r> thanks, ill take a look
[23:54] <thekkid> This is syslog after the vpn stops sending traffic https://gist.github.com/7h3kk1d/5540a96eed7cca0f15b0 any ideas?
[23:58] <user42381> where is soundmixer for kbuntu?
[23:58] <pooltable> media
[23:59] <user42381> where is soundmixer in kbuntu?
[23:59] <pooltable> multmedia