[00:31] <xubuntu985> This is a test---please disregard.
[00:49] <zacwalls> okay now how do i do a fresh install of 14.04.1 i dont really know how to do one but i kind of do. i know i need a stick wich i have on hand but...i dont know what to do after that.
[00:53] <zacwalls> okay now how do i do a fresh install of 14.04.1 i dont really know how to do one but i kind of do. i know i need a stick wich i have on hand but...i dont know what to do after that.
[01:28] <like2omg> Hello. I have been having an issue reinstalling Xubuntu 14.04 for dual-boot on my ASUS laptop. EFI/legacy doesn't matter. Chokes right after GRUB2 downloads, during its install.
[01:29] <like2omg> My laptop is (U)EFI style with GPT partition table. Windows 8.1 is currently happy to run in legacy mode.
[01:30] <like2omg> My method of installation is USB as I don't have any DVDs nor access to plug directly into the router/modem (defeats alternate/mini installation method).
[01:32] <like2omg> I also don't know how to remaster (correct terminology?) an .iso via. Windows 8.1. Any help greatly appreciated (and thanks to all people involved in Xubuntu, creating it, or even providing support!)
[02:26] <Kekai> Hello
[02:26] <Kekai> I just downloaded and installed the palemoon browser, just coming off google chrome, I was wondering if there was a way to get rid of the title bar at the top for more screen space
[02:30] <ObrienDave> i think, Window Manager Tweaks, Accessibility tab, hide frame of window when maximized. iirc
[02:35] <xangua> https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/hide-caption-titlebar-plus-sma/
[02:35] <Kekai> I tried that
[02:36] <Kekai> It doesnt seem to work now
[02:36] <Kekai> it did for 2 days
[04:17] <MFranciscoG> some of you speak spanish?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> !es
[04:19] <ObrienDave> MFranciscoG, most of us do speak english. your support question?
[04:19] <xubuntu554> I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 32 bit on my old DELL LATITUDE 600 laptop. I can search Wireless network but cannot connect to home wifi. It finds my home wifi but giving error when I enter password. can someone help?? need wifi connectivity as the first step. intel pro wireless adapter is installed on the system and I can see drivers also installed.
[04:20] <holstein> xubuntu554: i would just remove the access point from the list.. sounds like you just have a password issue.. i have also had keyboard issues there at that stage that i assumed were wifi issues
[04:22] <xubuntu554> I have windows laptop and macbook as well. tested on both by removing wireless and connecting back using same password. no issue and directly connected. but not on this laptop.
[04:22] <xubuntu554> how to remove access point from the list ?
[04:23] <holstein> xubuntu554: sure.. im saying, you have put the password in incorrectly once, and thats causing the issue. or, the number lock or something on the keyboard..
[04:23] <holstein> xubuntu554: i right click on the connection manage and view connections and remove past attempts..
[04:23] <xubuntu554> not password issue as I can read the password when I enter. there is an option to check to view the password when I enter
[04:24] <holstein> !wifi | xubuntu554
[04:24] <holstein> xubuntu554: then, wire up, and make sure you have all updates applied.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:25] <xubuntu554> did that step
[04:25] <holstein> xubuntu554: that step? what step?
[04:25] <holstein> xubuntu554: you have checked for and applied all upgrades? and rebooted into the latest kernel?
[04:25] <xubuntu554> connected to wired network and installed all the updates
[04:25] <xubuntu554> installed updates by searching in software updates. not upgrade.
[04:26] <holstein> xubuntu554: i would confirm that my hardware is working properly.. i would try other live CD's or supported operating systems.. i would try doing *exactly* what i suggested above if you feel you have not installed all upgrades
[04:27] <xubuntu554> I had Windows XP before on this and wireless was working on that.
[04:28] <xubuntu554> it is just after installing Xubuntu, here it is not connecting.
[04:29] <xubuntu554> I believe hardware is working as the wireless networks are detecting. it is just when I enter password, it is not connecting and asking for password again.
[04:29] <xubuntu554> is there any logs that I can review and see if any errors generating?
[04:30] <holstein> xubuntu554: try and be certain.. if you "believe", just try and isolate that and test.. with a live CD or supported operating system
[04:31] <xubuntu554> ok will check out with live CD or other OS. Thanks.
[04:32] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/258616/how-can-i-debug-my-wireless-problem
[04:32] <holstein> though, i think your issue is going to come down to something much simpler.. feel free and try #ubuntu as well cheers and good luck
[04:33] <xubuntu554> Ubuntu is making laptop too slow as It has only 1 GB RAM. but Xubuntu is working fine so far except this wireless connection
[04:33] <xubuntu554> checking the link which you just sent
[04:34] <holstein> xubuntu554: xubuntu *is* ubuntu, friend.. im suggesting trying #ubuntu , the channel..
[04:34] <xubuntu554> hmmm k.
[04:35] <holstein> xubuntu554: has the device *ever* worked in linux?
[04:36] <xubuntu554> yes I had installed CentOS last year and it was working. after that had XP on that till yesterday when I installed Xubuntu.
[04:37] <xubuntu554> I ran this command: dmesg | grep <your module>
[04:37] <xubuntu554> I can see message : fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart
[04:38] <holstein> ok.. you can try a more populous channel, such as #ubuntu, where someone may be able to look at a paste of that and help.. otherwise, i personally  try live CD's til something supports the hardware, and im sure its functioning.. then, i'll just swap chips out if needed..
[04:39] <xubuntu554> k
[06:30] <xubuntu042> hello every
[06:31] <xubuntu042> how can i fix chromium tab list Garbled
[06:31] <xubuntu042> hello every,,'
[06:32] <xubuntu042> how can i fix chromium tab list Garbled
[06:33] <xubuntu042> hello anyone in there
[06:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu042, you are seen
[06:47] <james0r2> xubuntu042, perhaps be more specific with your description of the problem and/or provide a screenshot of the issue.
[07:32]  * ObrienDave drums fingers
[07:54] <samwisegamgee> What are the xubuntu-restricted extras used for?  What purpose do they serve?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, stop playing.  as we told you in the main channel several times ... all this was explained an hour ago.
[07:54] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | samwisegamgee
[07:55] <samwisegamgee> Ok, I will google, "xubuntu-restricted extras" and see what I find, since you have no knowledge of those extras
[07:55] <cfhowlett> ... lol
[07:56] <ObrienDave> samwisegamgee, no, we have no interest in helping you because you DON'T listen
[07:56] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, no no - let him throw his passive-aggressive insults
[07:57] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ok, my bad, sorry, snark away ;P
[07:57] <samwisegamgee> I reviewed your instructions with respect to xubuntu restricted extras, and it appears that they serve no useful purpose.  However, I think the Synaptic Package Manager is useful
[07:57] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, so your probllem is solved then?  good work!
[07:58] <samwisegamgee> I am still going to google "xubuntu-restricted-extras" to reinforce my decision about their being useless
[07:59] <ObrienDave> have fun
[08:27] <samwisegamgee> Does anyone know how to use APT?
[08:27] <knome> samwisegamgee, ask the real question and let's find out.
[08:28] <samwisegamgee> It's called Advanced Package Tool
[08:28] <samwisegamgee> I'm using Xubuntu 14.04, so does that mean it's already built into my system?
[08:28] <knome> yes.
[08:29] <samwisegamgee> Ok, how come I can't find it anywhere?
[08:29] <knome> samwisegamgee, unless you don't have a real support question, please stop messing around.
[08:29] <ObrienDave> you run it with the command apt-get
[08:29] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, given your history, you really should stop
[08:30] <samwisegamgee> I cann only find Ubuntu Software Centre
[08:30] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, but if you actually want to learn, open a terminal, enter this command: man apt                      READ the information
[08:30] <samwisegamgee> ok
[08:31] <cfhowlett> !manual | samwisegamgee
[08:31] <samwisegamgee> thanks
[08:44] <samwisegamgee> Does anyone know how to use the Software Updater?
[08:44] <samwisegamgee> For Xubuntu 14.04
[08:45] <samwisegamgee> The ubuntu channel doen't know anything about the Software Updater, apparently, I already asked
[08:46] <samwisegamgee> Is there another channel to get information on the software Updater for Xubuntu?
[08:48] <bazhang> samwisegamgee, its the same as ubuntu, apart from the GUI on top
[08:48] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, same process, different look.  xubuntu = ubuntu
[08:49] <samwisegamgee> can you send me a link for a tutorial on using the ubuntu software updater?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, read the Ubuntu Manual for same
[08:50] <samwisegamgee> from the terminal?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !manual
[08:50] <bazhang> !apt-get | samwisegamgee
[08:51] <samwisegamgee> that's the wrong manual, I'm not using Uubntu 13.10
[08:51] <bazhang> read all about apt-get there samwisegamgee
[08:51] <bazhang> samwisegamgee, nothing's changed that much
[08:51] <bazhang> samwisegamgee, like I just said read the info on apt-get I just gave you
[08:51] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, few changes = still valid
[08:52] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates
[08:52] <samwisegamgee> Will that manual help me to choose the right categories for Ubuntu software updater?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, just leave the defaults in most cases works fine
[08:52] <bazhang> you want "from the command line" samwisegamgee <-----> apt-get is the one you want , the link I just gave you. take some time to read the links we've already given you, which is quite a few.
[08:53] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, in other words ... nothing to choose.  don't mess with until you know what you're doing
[08:54] <samwisegamgee> there is nothing in that manual about Canonical Partners, I'll check the other manual
[08:55] <samwisegamgee> should I look for Canonical partners in the Index?
[08:55] <bazhang> samwisegamgee, have you already finished the apt-get stuff?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, asking the questions you actually are seeking answers to would help.  read the index
[08:56] <samwisegamgee> No, I am still trying to figure out how to user the software updater
[08:56] <samwisegamgee> I am looking for information on Canonical partners
[08:56] <bazhang> samwisegamgee, and we have given you links explaining exactly that, several of them
[08:57] <samwisegamgee> to see if I need to check them in my software updater
[08:57] <bazhang> !partner | samwisegamgee
[08:57] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, it's a huge waste of time to keep asking questions and then refuse to read the informative information provided.  suggest your stop doing that.
[08:57] <samwisegamgee> I am reading the manuals
[08:58] <samwisegamgee> I am looking in the index for Canonical Partners
[08:58] <zacwalls> 7 hrs now i have been trying to get help
[08:59] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, for instant support, go to canonical and pay.  for support from the volunteers here, follow the guidelines and be patient
[08:59] <zacwalls> i have done all of that friend
[08:59] <bazhang> zacwalls, have you been crossposting in multiple channels?
[09:00] <samwisegamgee> they don't like when we do that
[09:00] <zacwalls> okay sure
[09:00] <bazhang> so whats the question then zacwalls
[09:01] <samwisegamgee> is there a canonical channel here?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, nope.
[09:02] <samwisegamgee> looks like there is a private one, but it's restricted
[09:02] <knome> samwisegamgee, unless you have a real support question and are willing to read the answer people give you, please leave
[09:03] <samwisegamgee> ok, I'll just spend a few hours reading the manuals instead of looking for quick solutions to my problems.
[09:03] <knome> samwisegamgee, have fun.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, good move.  enjoy the learning.
[09:04] <samwisegamgee> I should get the book, reading a manual on a computer screen for three hours is taxing on the eyes
[09:05] <knome> samwisegamgee, this is not a general chatter channel, so please stop posting irrelevant comments (especially as you are told to do so several times)
[09:07] <nomic> wow ... the robot
[09:07] <cfhowlett> nomic, ???
[09:07] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7968696/
[09:07] <samwisegamgee> I asked one simple question about the software updater, and I always get the same answer: don't ask us, spend a few hours reading the manuals, then figure out your own answer
[09:07] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, right.  so stop posting, go learning.
[09:08] <nomic> i love xubuntu man *choke*
[09:08] <nomic> its beautiful
[09:08] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, or, pay for support from canonical.  every one of learns to manage their machine.  if you don't want to do that, you really should consider a different OS
[09:09] <cfhowlett> nomic, please ask your *buntu support question.  for general chitchat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:09] <nomic> i jus tgot told not to ask a support question in xubuntyy-offtopic .. now you do this to me
[09:09] <nomic> bbl
[09:10] <samwisegamgee> Ok, I will leave Canonical unchecked for now in my software updater, then spend a few hours reading the manuals
[09:10] <kj4> i got kicked out of ubuntu-offtopic once
[09:10] <zacwalls> that was my question
[09:10] <knome> kj4, that's not the place to discuss that.
[09:10] <nomic> lol
[09:11] <knome> zacwalls, looks like your DNS servers aren't working.
[09:11] <kj4> they said I was "ontopic"  sheesh
[09:11] <zacwalls> i use a eth0 network
[09:12] <nomic> why does it say that only root can do "mount -t tmpfs -o size=256M tmpfs /tmp/ramdisk/"
[09:12] <zacwalls> irrelevance i know
[09:12] <nomic> its just a  simple mount .. is it because its tmpfs?
[09:12] <zacwalls> what do i do?
[09:12] <kj4> nomic: put sudo in front of that
[09:12] <nomic> i know this .. but why does it require sudo
[09:13] <kj4> mount req's root
[09:13] <knome> nomic, i believe so.
[09:13] <nomic> my other mount (filing system) does not require 'root'
[09:13] <nomic> mount does not require root
[09:13] <kj4> what is it mounting?
[09:13] <nomic> ok thanks knome
[09:14] <zacwalls> any suggestions?
[09:14] <nomic>  "mount -t tmpfs -o size=256M tmpfs /tmp/ramdisk/"
[09:14] <knome> nomic, you can add it to fstab with the user option and you should be able to mount it as a regular user
[09:14] <nomic> i can do that from fstab?
[09:14] <nomic> so I allocate ramdisk using a startup
[09:14] <nomic> or on startup .. then it'll fstab mount it
[09:14] <Unit193> 'mount -a` can be run as user and will mount all things in fstab.
[09:14] <knome> sure, i see no reason why you couldn't do that
[09:15] <nomic> thanks
[09:15] <nomic> want a ramdisk on bootup
[09:15] <nomic> mounted
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !paste
[09:15] <nomic> i can see that being problematic as I have to run a script to create the ramdisk before it gets  to fstab
[09:15] <zacwalls> no ubuntu 14.04 for me.
[09:16] <knome> zacwalls, try running 'do-release-upgrade -d'
[09:16] <zacwalls> oksy
[09:16] <zacwalls> same
[09:17] <knome> zacwalls, the upgrade script isn't even trying to upgrade to trusty, it is trying to get the quantal update which obviously *shouldn't* be available because it's EOL
[09:17] <zacwalls> okay well i have been trying to do a fresh install all day.
[09:18] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, get the 14.04.1 torrent and clean install.  if you have your home set in its own partition, you'll be able to keep your data
[09:18] <zacwalls> your little op kicked me from #ubuntu
[09:18] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, he's not my op and he had reason.
[09:19] <zacwalls> he thought he had one
[09:19] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, suggest you stay on topic here ...
[09:19] <zacwalls> sure
[09:20] <zacwalls> so i cant boot the iso from anything
[09:20] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | zacwalls, verify the ISO, verify the USB
[09:21] <zacwalls> i did and it verified and everything, still cant boot.
[09:21] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, what error message?
[09:21] <zacwalls> there wasnt one
[09:21] <samwisegamgee> you got any other manuals I can read through to learn more about the Canonical Partners?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, look on the canonical site
[09:22] <cfhowlett> www.canonical.com
[09:22] <samwisegamgee> there was no useful informattion abgout the Canonical Partners from the manuals you linked me to
[09:22] <samwisegamgee> ok, thannks
[09:24] <zacwalls> there was a user and his nick was somthing like alfonsojonny_ you would help me by reviewing the logs and telling me his nick,
[09:25] <samwisegamgee> It looks like the Canonical partners are reliable, well at least some of them, does that mean it's ok to check them off in my updater?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, yes, it's OK
[09:26] <zacwalls> still need help
[09:26] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, for in depth ubuntu user mastery and information:  http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-8th/dp/013390539X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407317087&sr=1-4&keywords=ubuntu+user
[09:27] <samwisegamgee> great, I just spent an hour going to links, looking up indexes and manuals for something that would normally take about 5 secs if I was using Windows
[09:27] <kj4> samwisegamgee: I knew you'd understand! welcome!
[09:28] <samwisegamgee> thanks, cfhowlett, that book is way cheaper than the Ultimate Unix Guide, which is good
[09:29] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, see your local library.  in fact, see your local linux / ubuntu user group.  less aggravating than IRC and there's often beer.
[09:30] <samwisegamgee> I thought all the user groups were here, at least the best ones
[09:30] <zacwalls> hello?
[09:30] <samwisegamgee> I got Your UNIX/Linux the Ultimate Guide from the university library
[09:30] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, university is also a worthy resource.
[09:30] <samwisegamgee> I wish I had my own hard copy, but it's really expensive
[09:31] <samwisegamgee> the first 80 pages is straightforward, but it gets coomplicated after that, and that book link you sent me looks better, cfhowlett
[09:32] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, use what works.   irc is only ONE source of support - and not necessarily the best one.  also see ubuntu forums
[09:33] <samwisegamgee> thanks cfhowlett, yeah the ubuntu forums are useful for troubleshooting
[09:33] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, and mailing lists.  see your ubuntu menu for community support and/or documentation.
[09:34] <zacwalls> am i gonna get help?
[09:38] <knome> !patience | zacwalls
[09:38] <zacwalls> im trying to install ubuntu 14.04
[09:38] <knome> zacwalls, and remember we are all volunteers here.
[09:39] <knome> zacwalls, we know. please wait until somebody who knows the answer comes around, and check the other sites while you wait.
[09:39] <zacwalls> --__--
[09:40] <zacwalls> will you unban me from ubuntu
[09:40] <knome> zacwalls, you can discuss that on #ubuntu-ops.
[11:10] <zleap> hello
[11:10] <cfhowlett> zleap, greetings.  ask you ubuntu questions
[11:10] <zleap> when i try and login I get taken back to the login screen
[11:10] <zleap> xubuntu 14.04
[11:11] <cfhowlett> zleap, login loop.  ask in #ubuntu
[11:11] <zleap> ok
[11:36] <phasip> I was updating to 14.04 and messed up all my ppas, now after the update I cannot find xubuntu-desktop package anymore and my desktop does not work after login (only black)
[11:37] <phasip> Could this be a ppa problem or some other problem?
[11:53] <samwisegamgee> Does xubuntu use .rpm packages?
[11:53] <phasip> no, .deb
[12:04] <brainwash> phasip: same problem when using the guest account?
[12:06] <phasip> brainwash: No, actually the guest account seems to work =/
[12:17] <phasip> thanks brainwash! I removed .config/xfce4 and it started working! Is the xubuntu-desktop package removed or is that still a problem?
[12:18] <brainwash> aren't you able to reinstall it?
[12:20] <phasip> No, it cant find the package ("unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop")
[12:21] <brainwash> what does "apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop" return?
[12:22] <phasip> unable to locate package
[12:22] <brainwash> that's odd
[12:23] <phasip> I remember removing it to be able to update, thats why I'm trying to install it
[12:23] <brainwash> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list pls
[12:23] <knome> phasip, ^run this in terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[12:24] <phasip> Yeah I think they are the problem, wait
[12:25] <phasip> 7970004
[12:25] <phasip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7970004
[12:25] <knome> phasip, you haven't enable the universe repositories.
[12:25] <knome> !info xubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <phasip> Ah!
[12:26] <phasip> Thanks!
[12:28] <samwisegamgee> What purpose does the java runtime environment using GIJ/Classpath (gcj-jre) serve as an optional add-on to LibreOffice for Xubuntu?
[12:28] <knome> samwisegamgee, please stop asking random questions for which you don't even want the answer.
[12:28] <knome> samwisegamgee, consider that as the last warning before you are removed from the channel.
[12:31] <samwisegamgee> Questions related to Libre Office are not acceptable in this channel?
[13:44] <samwisegamgee> the xubuntu software centre says the Muon Package Manager is for KDE, but can I use it with Xubuntu 14.04?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, yes
[13:45] <deshipu> yes, it will just install a lot of kde-related packages
[13:45] <deshipu> and might look a little different than other application in styling details
[13:45] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, this
[13:46] <samwisegamgee> no wonder it takes up so much memory
[13:47] <baizon> deshipu: "just"?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, if you're memory sensitive, suggest you use lubuntu - bit lighter than xubuntu
[13:48] <samwisegamgee> I got plenty of hard drive space, 500 GB
[13:49] <samwisegamgee> but may be my processor is slow
[13:49] <samwisegamgee> Muon might slow down my PC if I install it
[13:51] <samwisegamgee> I got an AMD Athlon 64 processor 3200+, 2 GHz size, 3 GHz capacity
[13:52] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, so ... don't
[13:52] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, lubuntu is optimized for lower specification hardware.  xubuntu also does a pretty decent job.  when you start tweaking and twerking as you are determined to do ... things change.  Your choice.  Your responsibility.
[13:52] <samwisegamgee> I wanted to use Muon to get better descriptions of the add ons for Libre Office
[13:53] <Luyin> samwisegamgee: maybe you just wish to install the libreoffice package via terminal or via synaptic. <sarcasm>but installing a lot of different package management systems seems like a really good idea, too. </sarcasm> why do you ask the same things in many different channels and don't use the offered help?
[13:53]  * cfhowlett grabs a bag of popcorn and sits back to watch the thread ...
[13:54] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, *stupid question* I know but ... have your actually installed ANYTHING today?
[13:55] <samwisegamgee> I will try looking on Youtube for better information about the Libre Office add ons I need, since none of the IRC channels were very informative and my google searches were not helpful
[13:55] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, you mean ... instead of looking on the libreoffice site?  OK>  head to youtube
[13:55] <samwisegamgee> I installed the Synaptic Package Manager
[13:55] <samwisegamgee> Yeah, the Libre Office website was not helpful, nor were its forums
[13:56] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, so you know how to install software.  Install it, test it and decide if you need it.
[13:56] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, if you don't like/need it, delete it.  done.
[13:56] <samwisegamgee> I also followed your advice about installing xubuntu restricted extras successfully, thanks
[13:57] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, sounds like you'
[13:57] <cfhowlett> you've figured out quite a few things today.  Progress!
[13:58] <samwisegamgee> Yes, but I never expected the Libre Office add ons to be so challenging.  I didn't realize that installing Libre Office would be so difficult
[13:58] <Luyin> samwisegamgee: what add-ons do you actually need?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, what makes you think you need the add-ons?  have you USED the program and found shortcomings?
[13:59] <samwisegamgee> I just neede the add ons that will help me do word processing on Libre Office, and for using PDFs
[13:59] <samwisegamgee> and using various fonts
[13:59] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, librewriter.
[13:59] <samwisegamgee> yes
[14:00] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, pdf printing is supported.  no add -on
[14:00] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, fonts don't come from libreoffice.  install the fonts and then choose them with libreoffice
[14:00] <samwisegamgee> version 4.3 has add ons for manipulating PDFs, I think
[14:01] <samwisegamgee> but that verrsion is not suppported by my package manager
[14:01] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, so use the  terminal.
[14:01] <samwisegamgee> use the terminal to install LibreOffice 4.3?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, of course.  the package manager merely gives you a nice gui.  the REAL work is terminal based.   remember those APT links you didn't feel like reading?  all explained there
[14:02] <baizon> samwisegamgee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505368/how-to-update-libreoffice-from-4-2-to-4-3-in-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts
[14:02] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, sudo apt-get install pacakgename
[14:03] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, in face you could even download the .deb directly from libreoffice and use the terminal to install that way as well.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> in *fact*
[14:05] <samwisegamgee> that still doesn't help me figure out how to install Libre office, unless I can do it all with the terminal
[14:06] <knome> samwisegamgee, sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[14:06] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, see you're doing it again.  sudo apt-get install libreoffice                READ
[14:06] <samwisegamgee> Ok, I'll read baizon's link, and see if that helps
[14:07] <cfhowlett> lol.    i'm so done.
[14:07] <cfhowlett> OK
[14:08] <samwisegamgee> Read it where?
[14:08] <samwisegamgee> does that command line produce a man before it installs LibreOffice?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> samwisegamgee, dude.  you were sent the command THREE TIMES and didn't read it so .. no more
[14:08]  * cfhowlett thinks " fair enough" 
[14:09] <samwisegamgee> test
[14:09] <knome> samwisegamgee, now stop playing or you will get banned.
[14:11] <samwisegamgee> installing software is not playing, a lot of time and money is involved, so I hope you will respect the rules, knome
[14:11] <knome> samwisegamgee, the feeling is mutual; though there is no money involved.
[14:12] <cfhowlett> money?  MONEY?  no I KNOW you here to waste time
[14:12] <knome> samwisegamgee, i've sent you the guidelines for reference.
[14:12] <samwisegamgee> thanks, knome
[14:13] <knome> samwisegamgee, and remember, it's your last chance to follow them
[14:13] <samwisegamgee> Ok, I will read them again, knome
[14:14] <Luyin> samwisegamgee: this might help (really the last thing for today): http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=sudo+apt-get+install+libreoffice
[14:15] <samwisegamgee> thanks, Luyin
[14:17] <samwisegamgee> but knome expelled me from this channel, and I lost one of the links posted in this room related to Libre Office installation, I can't even remember who posted it
 samwisegamgee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505368/how-to-update-libreoffice-from-4-2-to-4-3-in-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts
[14:18] <samwisegamgee> yes, it was baizon, thanks
[14:18] <Luyin> sry for highlighting
[14:18] <samwisegamgee> the highlighting is good
[14:19] <samwisegamgee> I will bookmark the links in case I get expelled again
[14:38] <samwisegamgee> cfhowlett, you still here?
[14:39] <knome> samwisegamgee, if you have a support question, just ask it. no need to ping specific people.
[14:48] <samwisegamgee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/505368/how-to-update-libreoffice-from-4-2-to-4-3-in-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts ....that link makes sense, except for the part about ppa, I will try googling to make sense of ppa
[14:48] <knome> samwisegamgee, you don't need to tell us you are googling.
[17:15] <streamingindie> Hey all, I am wondering why my bootable flash won't load on a HP vista machine.. Is there a trick I am missing?
[17:16] <streamingindie> I loaded the bios and it does go to the flash with a bootable xubuntu image as described in the instructions, but all I get is flashing curser line at the top left of the screen.
[17:40] <GridCube> !uefi
[17:40] <GridCube> streamingindie, ^
[17:41] <GridCube> uefi machines don't see traditional boot partitions as booteable
[17:41] <GridCube> you need to disable them or enable the boot of legacy devices
[17:51] <Shane___> I need to get sudo access, but my main account somehow has no access and when I try to do something where sudo is needed, it says access denied due to an incorrect password
[17:52] <ObrienDave> then your password is wrong
[17:52] <Shane___> How...I just used it to log in
[17:52] <Shane___> caps lock is not on, num lock is on, and I have tried ove 10 times
[17:53] <ObrienDave> that is strange
[17:54] <Shane___> ya no kidding...I have no clue why and I cant find anywhere else where someone is having this problem
[17:55] <ObrienDave> that is beyond my knowledge. hang out for a while, someone will come by that can help you
[17:55] <ObrienDave> you might try asking in main channel also. #ubuntu
[17:55] <GridCube> Shane___, how are you trying to use sudo?
[17:56] <Shane___> To download java
[17:56] <Shane___> sudo then the command to download java
[17:57] <GridCube> ah... how
[17:57] <ObrienDave> paste your command please
[17:57] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install java?
[17:57] <Shane___> sudo add-apt-respository ppa:webup8team/java -y   I was also getting the same error when trying to install amd drivers
[17:58] <GridCube> Shane___, could you pastebin the result of that please?
[17:58] <ObrienDave> hmm, looks right. how long have you been having this issue?
[18:00] <Shane___> I just made the switch from windows 7 yesterday..I have nothing to go back to so I would like to have this solved:P
[18:00] <Shane___> looks like this   shane@Shane-HP-ProBook-4545s:~$ sudo add-apt-respository ppa:webup8team/java -y [sudo] password for shane:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for shane:
[18:00] <Shane___> idk how to pastebin, so I hope that works
[18:01] <ObrienDave> you're fine
[18:02] <Shane___> k
[18:03] <ObrienDave> nothing wrong with single line pastes. when people want to send more than 5, the flood bot kicks in
[18:03] <Shane___> ahh ok nice to know
[18:05] <zacwalls> so im tring  to write an iso to disk...its being difficult
[18:05] <Shane___> so no one has any help?
[18:05] <bazhang> using what tool zacwalls
[18:05] <zacwalls> a cd-r
[18:06] <bazhang> thats not a tool
[18:06] <xubuntu594> what is the problem shine?
[18:06] <xubuntu594> *shane
[18:06] <zacwalls> what is?
[18:06] <bazhang> unetbootin
[18:06] <Shane___> xubuntu I have no sudo acces and I have no clue why
[18:06] <ObrienDave> Shane___, i don't know how to fix that issue
[18:07] <Shane___> well this is what I was affraid of...
[18:07] <xubuntu594> does it give an error message when using sudo?
[18:07] <Shane___> nope just like my password is incorrect, but I am 100% sure that it is correct
[18:07] <bazhang> zacwalls, what version of xubuntu, and how large is the iso
[18:07] <ObrienDave> his password works for login but not for sudo access
[18:08] <xubuntu594> hmm
[18:08] <zacwalls> iso is a few kb and xubuntu 12.04
[18:08] <bazhang> a few kb?
[18:08] <zacwalls> yes
[18:08] <bazhang> that cannot be right
[18:08] <xubuntu594> as a workaround you could set a password for root
[18:08] <zacwalls> long story
[18:08] <knome> xubuntu594, nope.
[18:08] <xubuntu594> ?
[18:08] <knome> Shane___, don't set the root password.
[18:08] <bazhang> zacwalls, what version of xubuntu
[18:09] <knome> xubuntu594, setting the root password is unsupported.
[18:09] <zacwalls> 12.04
[18:09] <Shane___> Idk what else to do....I cant do anything but browse the web now
[18:09] <bazhang> zacwalls, the xubuntu iso is much larger than a few kb
[18:09] <zacwalls> oh no its...a long story
[18:10] <xubuntu594> i understand, but if he desperately needs root access?
[18:10] <bazhang> zacwalls, that does not matter, the iso is just not that size
[18:10] <ObrienDave> Shane___, patience please, we'll get it sorted
[18:10] <zacwalls> i burn it before
[18:10] <knome> xubuntu594, nope. that just makes things worse. just please do not do, or suggest, that.
[18:10] <Shane___> kk...
[18:10] <xubuntu594> okay!
[18:10] <bazhang> zacwalls, your issue is the iso is failed download, get a new one
[18:11] <zacwalls> --__--
[18:11] <zacwalls> it has downloaded before
[18:11] <zacwalls> just incorrectly
[18:11] <bazhang> zacwalls, let us know when that is done, and then tell us the real size
[18:11] <zacwalls> i dont know how to download
[18:11] <ObrienDave> zacwalls, and do a md5 on the file when complete
[18:11] <bazhang> zacwalls, use an internet browser
[18:12] <ObrienDave> or a torrent client. faster and less bandwidth on the ubuntu servers
[18:12] <zacwalls> ......friend i have an iso that i have been tryng to burn, let alone use a stick. i dont know how to
[18:13] <zacwalls> iso is for windows
[18:13] <bazhang> zacwalls, it's a windows iso?
[18:13] <zacwalls> no
 iso is for windows
[18:13] <ObrienDave> no, ISO is a disk image for burning to DVD or USB stick
[18:13] <zacwalls> ubuntu 14.04.1 for ubuntu 64bit
[18:14] <zacwalls> for win i ment
[18:14] <bazhang> zacwalls, and whats the size of that
[18:14] <zacwalls> 1 or 2 gigs
[18:15] <bazhang> zacwalls, that will not fit on a cd
[18:15] <zacwalls> but it will on a 8 gb usb that i have
[18:15] <bazhang> zacwalls, you stated earlier, you were using a cd-r
[18:16] <Shane___> How long do you guys think this will take..I have to go do some stuff, and I dont want to miss anything
[18:17] <zacwalls> my pc unplugged
[18:17] <bazhang> Shane___, come back when you have free time
[18:17] <Shane___> k
[18:17] <bazhang> Shane___, the channel is logged as well
[18:17] <bazhang> !1984
[18:18] <Azelphur> I love that the factoid for that is 1984 xD
[18:18] <bazhang> zacwalls, return when you have an operational and plugged in computer
[18:18] <zacwalls> i do
 my pc unplugged
[18:19] <zacwalls> and i powered it up
[18:19] <zacwalls> that is how im talking
[18:19] <bazhang> zacwalls, use unetbootin or similar to burn the iso to usb stick
[18:19] <zacwalls> what is that?
[18:20] <bazhang> !unetbootin | zacwalls
[18:20] <bazhang> zacwalls, read those links carefully
[18:20] <ObrienDave> a utility to transfer the ISO to a USEABLE dvd or usb stick
[18:20] <bazhang> !info unetbootin
[18:21] <bazhang> zacwalls, read those links, follow them, let us know when the burning of iso to usb stick is complete and then we can proceed
[18:22] <zacwalls> okay
[18:22] <zacwalls> thanks
[18:28] <zacwalls> i got error 13
[18:29] <zacwalls> bazhang, what dose that mean?
[18:30] <bazhang> first of all zacwalls let us know the size of the iso, and outcome of your md5 summing it
[18:32] <zacwalls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7972557/
[18:32] <zacwalls> its good i think
[18:37] <bazhang> where'd you match the hash from
[18:37] <bazhang> !hashes
[18:37] <bazhang> check there ^
[18:49] <ObrienDave> that does not have 14.04.1
[19:28] <ObrienDave> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[20:12] <Shane____> Hey guys Im back..I was the one having a problem with not being able to get sudo access
[20:13] <ObrienDave> yup, wb
[20:13] <Shane____> well I now have nothing but time, so hoping that someone can help
[20:15] <ObrienDave> is your keyboard standard US qwerty?
[20:16] <ObrienDave> meaning not some weird off brand,gaming,third-party,etc.
[20:19] <Shane____> its the stock hp keyboard on my laptop
[20:20] <ObrienDave> ok, cool, and no problems at all with Win? no spills, food, etc?
[20:20] <ObrienDave> blow out under the keys lately?
[20:20] <Shane____> nope...it works with everything other than the terminal, I am using the laptop now
[20:21] <ObrienDave> ok, just eliminating possibilities
[20:22] <ObrienDave> your account is an administrator account?
[20:25] <Shane_____> sorry about that
[20:25] <ObrienDave> np
[20:25] <Shane_____> missed any comment after you said to blow out the keys
[20:26] <ObrienDave> your account is an administrator account?
[20:27] <Shane_____> I think so..from what I have gathered, the first account that you create has automatic admin perms, but I am not sure
[20:27] <ObrienDave> not true
[20:27] <Shane_____> Well then how would I check
[20:27] <ObrienDave> go to settings, users and groups
[20:28] <ObrienDave> under your name you will see account type
[20:29] <elfy> Shane_____: the account created during install will have sudo rights
[20:29] <Shane_____> well this is amazing...The account says custom, but to be able to get into that it requires a password, which does not work with my account password
[20:30] <ObrienDave> then why does his password not work for sudo?
[20:32] <elfy> Shane_____: tried resetting it in recovery mode?
[20:32] <Shane_____> ya I tried to do something like that but I kind of got lost
[20:32] <sbujnak> Hi, is there a way to run xubuntu (14.04.1) on Macbook Air 2013?
[20:32] <Shane_____> Im pretty new to this
[20:33] <elfy> as was everyone once ;)
[20:33] <ObrienDave> Shane_____, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:33] <ObrienDave> especially me ;P
[20:34] <Shane_____> Ok ill try that, and then I have to do something..Ill be back later to tell u guys how it goes:) Hopefully this works
[20:34] <ObrienDave> good luck
[20:49] <xubuntu854> Gave xubuntu another try and it works great on my laptop and pc
[20:49] <xubuntu854> thnx xubuntu community for making something that is feels so light and is so usefull
[20:52] <ObrienDave> thank you for reporting back on your success
[21:00] <mecklen> I'm on x86/64 14.04 and I lost my audio after a recent update.  I reinstalled alsa and pulseaudio, rebooted and my audio is back.  Now the volume control applet disappeared.  I installed xfce4-mixer but it isn't the same applet I had before.  The old applet had gmusicbrowser controls for next/prev/pause as well as a button for advanced sound control.  Any idea how I can get the previous functionality back?  Thanks!
[21:02] <ObrienDave> the app is called sound menu, i think
[21:03] <Unit193> indicator-sound, actually.
[21:06] <mecklen> Thanks!  Okay, I've installed indicator-sound (and indicator-sound-gtk2) but I cannot find the applet in the panel add items list.  Do I need to logout/in (or reboot!)?
[21:08] <Unit193> mecklen: It's in the indicator plugin, not it's own seperate plugin.  Also, indicator-sound-gtk2 is useless to you.
[21:08] <mecklen> Okay, thanks!
[22:27] <shane___> well I reset the password and now I can not log in:(
[22:27] <shane___> is anyone from earlier here?
[22:28] <shane___> does anyone want to help...i have a useless pc here...his is why i stick to windows..not because I like it, because it works
[23:08] <shane____> For anyone that wasnt here earlier I was having a problem where I could not get sudo acces because my password was "invalid"..someone suggested changing my password, but now I just cant log in period...
[23:12] <shane____> anyone?
[23:12] <shane____> can anyone even see this
[23:12] <tolbertm1420421> yup
[23:13] <shane____> ahh can you help any?
[23:15] <shane___> Need help getting sudo access..password keeps getting denied, and someone had me reset my password through root, and now I cant log in at all..would love help..Ill just leave this on and hope someone replies
[23:17] <renso> hi
[23:17] <renso> shane ? are you here ?
[23:18] <shane___> yup im here
[23:18] <renso> you are in linux atm ? (my english suck, is a problem ? )
[23:18] <renso> you have 2 passwords atm ? 1 for user and another for root ? only 1 ?
[23:20] <shane___> nope not too bad, and I am using a guest session right now, as I cant log in to my account.  I had one password for my account, which should have worked for sudo, someone suggested to me that I should go into recovery mode so that I could reset my password.  I reset it and now I cant even log in
[23:20] <renso> open a terminal
[23:20] <shane___> and
[23:20] <renso> try commands, and put the error here
[23:21] <renso> sudo passwd
[23:21] <renso> su
[23:21] <shane___> Well right now it says "sudo: unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted" but that is because I am using guest to do this and not my main account
[23:23] <renso> know how use tt1 or tt2 ? control alt f1 ?? for back control alt f6 or f7, know about that ?
[23:23] <renso> sudo YOUUSER   what say ?
[23:23] <renso> sorry, su youuser
[23:24] <shane___> nope not sure what u are talking about I am totally new to this
[23:25] <ObrienDave> hey shane___ how goes it?
[23:25] <shane___> worse I reset the password and now I cant log in:(
[23:26] <ObrienDave> do you have anything important on there?
[23:26] <shane___> nope I was just thinking about reinstalling
[23:26] <renso_> test
[23:26] <shane___> hey i have to go ill be back in 5 mins
[23:27] <shane___> sry
[23:27] <ObrienDave> that might be a good idea. you installed 1st time 2 days ago, iirc
[23:27] <ObrienDave> np
[23:27] <renso_> if you use control+alt+f1, you  switch to a black screen, where can use a terminal
[23:27] <renso_> ok
[23:42] <shane____> back
[23:43] <shane____> should I just do a reinstall
[23:43] <shane____> ?
[23:44] <shane____> anyone here
[23:44] <renso_> no need, but is your call (idk the right expression)
[23:45] <renso_> you can try again recovery mode, set a password like 1
[23:45] <renso_> and try enable root login, skiping the sudo thing
[23:45] <shane____> i already did that and how can i enable root login
[23:46] <renso_> sudo passwd
[23:46] <renso_> then, try to login with "su" and the new password, you have two pass now, i for you user, and another for root
[23:46] <shane____> while im on the guest account I cant use sudo passwd
[23:47] <renso_> offcourse, is for security
[23:47] <renso_> you need do this in recovery mode
[23:47] <renso_> take note : sudo passwd
[23:47] <renso_> then try to login with "su"
[23:47] <renso_> and this new passwod
[23:47] <renso_> afeter, you can recover you user with "su username"
[23:47] <renso_> after*
[23:48] <shane____> so in the root area of recovery mode, I do sudo passwd?
[23:48] <renso_> yes
[23:50] <shane____> su will be the username?
[23:51] <renso_> nono su, is a command than permit you (as root for example) login in another acout, like "su user1" or "su user3"
[23:52] <renso_> for default, in ubuntu, you dont have access su, is reemplace with sudo, for security reason, when you enable SU, you can login in root shell, and work free, if you dont use su, you need do a "sudo" for every comamnd you want run as root
[23:54] <shane____> hey dave...have any help i might as well get aI second opinion, so far all that I am getting I will need to get into the root account
[23:55] <ObrienDave> yes, but that really is not a good idea
[23:56] <ObrienDave> can you get to a terminal?
[23:56] <shane____> well any clue of what else I could do, and if I mess up, cant I just reinstall
[23:56] <shane____> ya i can get in a terminal now but I cant do much as i am in guest
[23:56] <ObrienDave> yes, reinstalling seems to be the best option, afaik
[23:57] <ObrienDave> i would suggest reformatting the drive during install
[23:57] <shane____> why is tht
[23:58] <ObrienDave> makes sure no residual files or settings affect the outcome
[23:59] <shane____> ok well i guess ill give it a shot ill be back when im done
[23:59] <renso_> so, is better reinstall with format that try 2 commands ?
[23:59] <ObrienDave> so, help him if you can