[04:05] <ScottK> khtml and kdelibs4support udpates done
[05:49] <ScottK> OK, they built on all archs now.
[05:54] <ovidiu-florin> Good morning sexy people :D
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:05] <Riddelll> lordievader: able to do more ISOs today?
[08:05] <Riddelll> soee: ↑
[08:06] <lordievader> Riddelll: In the evening, sure. It got a respun right after I finished testing, eh. What changed?
[08:06] <Riddelll> not sure, but a respin is validation that all this testing is important :)
[08:08] <lordievader> Riddelll: I'll run a few test in the evening ;)
[08:12] <Riddelll> 09:11 < jibel> Riddelll, last respin was a fix to dmidecode to support smbios > 2.7 and not crash ubiquity
[08:12] <Riddelll> lordievader: ↑
[08:13] <lordievader> Ah check. Yeah that is a useful fix :)
[08:14] <Riddelll> ScottK: kf5 all throught to released, thanks for the poking
[08:14] <Riddelll> ScottK: I don't suppose you've any idea why kde4libs and friends isn't transitioning?
[08:26] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion plasma-nm 0.9.3.4
[08:27] <kubotu> ["https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1353888\n"]
[08:28] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion digikam 4.2.0
[08:28] <kubotu> ["https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1353890\n"]
[08:29] <apachelogger> kubotu: you have broken output, how did you manage that?
[08:30] <tsimpson_> apachelogger: ubottu.com is upgrading to 14.04
[08:30] <apachelogger> that would explain it I guess
[08:33] <apachelogger> or maybe it doesn't
[08:33] <apachelogger> tsimpson_: is the upgrade in progress right now?
[08:33] <tsimpson_> it's upgraded all the packages, just migrating postgresql from 9.1 to 9.3
[08:34] <tsimpson_> I did notice the default ruby version changed to 1.9 though
[08:34] <apachelogger> tsimpson_: rbot is using a ruby in my home
[08:34] <apachelogger> that wouldn't impact it though, the entire output of newversion comes out of a python script working the API
[08:35] <apachelogger> print(bug.web_link)
[08:35] <apachelogger> very suspicious
[08:36] <tsimpson_> maybe the devel API changed it to a list
[08:37] <tsimpson_> hmm, the apidoc doesn't suggest it did
[08:38] <apachelogger> that would be a fun API change
[08:42] <apachelogger> running it manually doesn't have the problem ...
[08:42] <tsimpson_> maybe ruby is splitting stdout into lines?
[08:43] <apachelogger> ah it is rubys fault after all
[08:43] <apachelogger> since I upgraded to ruby>=2 a while ago the readlines api changed... in <2 it returned either a string or an array in 2 that has been unified so it always returns an array ^^
[08:45] <apachelogger> kubotu: newversion plasma-nm 0.9.3.4
[08:46] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1353901
[08:46] <apachelogger> et voila
[09:34] <ScottK> Riddell: No, I didn't sort it out.
[10:35] <Riddell> https://dot.kde.org/2014/08/02/randa-meetings-interview-four-myriam-schweingruber "you could describe me as kind of a nerd" surely a geek :)
[10:46] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: what needs doing
[10:46] <apachelogger> dunno
[10:46] <apachelogger> dancing
[10:47] <shadeslayer_> |o|
[10:47] <shadeslayer_> \o\
[10:47] <shadeslayer_> /o/
[10:47] <shadeslayer_> done
[10:47] <apachelogger> let's call it a day then
[10:47]  * shadeslayer_ tries to figure out things to do
[10:50] <apachelogger> find out what is memleaking on my system :P
[10:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: 12.04.5 testing!
[10:50] <shadeslayer_> yes
[10:51] <apachelogger> or why magic key oom killer doesn't want to work
[10:51] <shadeslayer_> I am doing that
[10:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: stop dancing and test 12.04.5!
[10:51]  * apachelogger had to kill his system earlier :'<
[10:51] <shadeslayer_> it's booooring
[10:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: no time
[10:51] <apachelogger> doing !kubuntu things today
[10:51] <Riddell> cos I'm busy releasing frameworks so I can release plasma
[10:51] <Riddell> !kubuntu?  whatever could that involve?!
[11:29]  * yofel feels with apachelogger
[11:29] <yofel> there is sysrq+f for manually oomkilling stuff
[11:31] <apachelogger> that's the one that didn't want to work for whatever reason
[11:31] <apachelogger> at the same time +k didn't so it might well be that there was a fork bomb going on
[11:31] <yofel> might be disabled, see /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysrq.conf
[11:32] <apachelogger> which reminds me that I wanted to make a package to reduce security :P
[11:32] <yofel> \o/
[11:33] <Riddell> ?
[11:34] <shadeslayer_> gdb stuff probably
[11:38]  * yofel plays with license-helper.py
[11:39] <yofel> that thing is really useful
[11:41] <shadeslayer_> what's that
[11:41] <yofel> see maxy's last mail to devel
[11:42] <yofel> *blink*
[11:43] <yofel> I totally missed that there was a kde-workspace 4.11.11
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> o_
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> o
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> my eyes
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> o_o
[11:43] <yofel> kubotu: newversion kde-workspace 4.11.11
[11:43] <yofel> ...
[11:43] <yofel> what did I do... /o\
[11:44] <yofel> apachelogger: we need a doctor!
[11:44] <Riddell> didn't I package it?
[11:45] <Riddell> yes it's in utopic
[11:45] <Riddell> but would be nice to updates indeed
[11:46] <yofel> ah hm, somehow my apt didn't know about it, and neither does bzr
[11:46] <yofel> Riddell: mind fixing latter please ^ ?
[11:48] <yofel> "An update is available for your system", indeed, there's 555
[11:48] <yofel> I knew I forgot to do something lately
[11:48]  * Riddell looks
[11:48] <apachelogger> yofel: system upgrade made it explode clearly xD
[11:49] <shadeslayer_> kubuntuBot_: nick kubuntuBot
[11:49] <kubuntuBot_> shadeslayer_, you don't have 'config::nick' permissions here
[11:49] <shadeslayer_> uf
[11:49] <yofel> ^^
[11:49] <apachelogger> oh that is rubbish
[11:49] <Riddell> yofel: done
[11:49] <yofel> thanks :)
[11:50] <apachelogger> someone nohuped it incorrectly I say
[11:51] <apachelogger> kubotu: newversion kde-workspace 4.11.11
[11:51] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1353973
[11:51] <yofel> on that topic, let me cherry pick that powerdevil patchery I did. I don't really think that should wait another month until we test logind
[11:51] <yofel> \o/
[12:00] <soee__> have question: we do ISO testing. now i se for ubuntu i386 there is a bug report about ubiquity, now i wonder if there might be again situation when they rebuild isos and we would have to do our tests from 0 again
[12:01] <yofel> Noskcaj: btw. we're now completely fine with upower 0.99
[12:21]  * yofel officially blames gcc for all the kernel panics he gets lately
[12:24] <apachelogger> yofel: why did 4.13.3 take 15 days from upstream release to ppa?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:33] <yofel> apachelogger: I didn't have time and nobody else bothered
[12:33] <yofel> or didn't have time either
[12:34] <yofel> this new shiny plasma thing was fancier
[12:35] <sgclark> there was also the 14.14 beta
[12:35] <sgclark> so much at once...
[12:35] <apachelogger> mh
[12:40] <sgclark> well.. don't think I can possibly donate much more time in my day, I do like sleep occasionly lol
[12:42] <yofel> nah, I've been there and did kde updates almost all by myself for a couple months and burned myself out
[12:42] <soee> sgclark: dont worry one day i will help you, dont know when this day will come but it will :D
[12:42] <yofel> don't do that
[12:43] <sgclark> I am on vacation next week :) will rejuvenate
[12:43] <sgclark> but yeah, wow lots of work haha
[13:26] <allee> FWIW: utopic: switched yesterday to sddm, rebooted (mac book pro) and only saw a black screen. found no way to switch to a virt console.  Power off and switched again to lightdm
[13:38] <Riddell> sgclark: not want to set up a build status page? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/
[13:38] <sgclark> Riddell: my apologies, will set that up
[13:38] <shadeslayer_> allee: this seems to be a common issue :S
[13:39] <allee> shadeslayer_: :-)
[13:39] <shadeslayer_> allee: what happens if you try running sudo sddm via tty1
[13:39] <shadeslayer_> or tty2 rather
[13:42] <allee> shadeslayer_: with lightdm stopped I assume ...
[13:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: tarme doesn't like kwindowsaddons  http://paste.kde.org/p9hauwe14
[13:44] <shadeslayer_> allee: yep
[13:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think your LANG or LC_ALL is busted again/still
[13:49] <Riddell> you're right
[13:49] <Riddell> it didn't like  LANGUAGE=en:es:en
[13:53] <yofel> so, I removed german from my settings, now I have LANGUAGE=en:de:en
[13:53] <yofel> huh?
[14:00] <allee> shadeslayer_: black screen.  Last night I saw a black screen with a cursor.  Now nothing vt1 is only black
[14:00] <shadeslayer_> allee: please file a bug on github.com/sddm/sddm with /var/log/sddm.log
[14:02] <BluesKaj> what's the point of sddm anyway, lightdm was working fine as was kdm before it...why all these changes when stuff already works ?
[14:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: more problems? http://paste.kde.org/punus97id
[14:08] <apachelogger> now you had a socket error :P
[14:11] <allee> shadeslayer_: sddm.log will not help. http://paste.kde.org/pmhhlcysk   HOw to turn on debugging?
[14:11] <shadeslayer_> idk, thats where it's supposed to dump things
[14:12] <sgclark> Riddell: http://goo.gl/EgjqmX
[14:13] <Riddell> sgclark: nice, looking mostly green :)
[14:13] <sgclark> Riddell: well , qtruby is posing to be a big problem, if another set of eyes can take a look
[14:16] <Riddell> sgclark: look at the build log, it builds usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.9.1/i686-linux/qscintilla.so
[14:16] <Riddell> and wants to install usr/lib/*/ruby/vendor_ruby/*/*/qscintilla.so
[14:16] <Riddell> so there's an extra dir the .install file wants  usr/lib/*
[14:16] <Riddell> that asterisk can go
[14:17] <sgclark> Riddell: aha, thanks, sorry long day/night
[14:17] <Riddell> so it needs a backport-hook script to do some sed magic on the .install file to fix that then reupload it
[14:17] <sgclark> right
[14:18] <Riddell> looks like all the .install files will need the same thing done
[14:21] <shadeslayer_> oh my
[14:21] <shadeslayer_> :3
[14:21] <shadeslayer_> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/b5da1532e48568d4a6305e146bdd107daa1ef9e9
[14:22] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: fyi https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month is working
[14:25] <apachelogger> yay
[14:30] <shadeslayer_> probably the first and last time I'll see a developer cheering at incoming bug reports
[14:46] <shadeslayer_> xnox: ping
[14:47] <xnox> shadeslayer_: yo!
[14:47] <shadeslayer_> xnox: on http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/ I can't start ubiquity at all
[14:48] <xnox> shadeslayer_: i'll look into that in about an hour. In a meeting at the moment.
[14:48] <shadeslayer_> xnox: sure
[14:48] <shadeslayer_> xnox: sudo ubiquity makes it start though
[14:50] <allee>  shadeslayer_: weired, now the (in)famous x-cursor of a plain xserver is displayed.  Still with black bg. No new entry in the log.
[14:53] <shadeslayer_> sddm is not the most reliable thing in the world :(
[14:53] <shadeslayer_> though alot of the issues also come down to shit drivers
[14:55] <apachelogger> such as?
[14:56] <shadeslayer_> black screens?
[14:56] <shadeslayer_> sounds like a driver issue, since it starts fine on other machines
[14:57] <shadeslayer_> ofcourse, I'm no sddm expert :p
[15:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: sounds more like a greeter/qml issue to be honest
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> what
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> /o
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> /o\
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: whai 
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> oh
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> not alternate
[15:12] <shadeslayer_> hurray
[15:12] <apachelogger> but alternate is the best? :(
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: might want to check why those were respun and test that specific thing
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> instead of checking the whole thing again
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> which is just a PITA
[15:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: it's all good
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> ok
[15:13] <Riddell> alternates didn't have the problem
[15:14] <Riddell> so your testing this morning is still valid
[15:14] <shadeslayer_> \o/
[15:14] <Riddell> and this is only the ISO not the livefs so most previous testing is still valid
[16:16] <Turgay> i am getting error http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/08/05/IMG20140805194727.jpg
[16:16] <Turgay> system :14.10 alpha2 plasma 5
[16:16] <shadeslayer_> Turgay: and does it work with lightdm?
[16:18] <Riddell> anyone around for the rest of today (next 6 hours) able to click button on 12.04.5 release?
[16:19] <Turgay> shadeslayer_,   yes
[16:19] <shadeslayer_> not a clue
[16:19] <Riddell> ScottK, sgclark, valorie, ahoneybun: you folks are in a late timezone, fancy clicking publish on 12.04.5?
[16:20] <sgclark> Riddell: I have no idea what you mean
[16:20] <Riddell> lordievader, soee: those desktop images could do with some more testers if you are able to this evening
[16:21] <Riddell> sgclark: 12.04.5 is due to be announced sometime today hopefully in the next 6 hours, I need to leave, so someone needs to click publish for the story on the website when it happens
[16:21] <sgclark> Riddell: not sure I have access or rights on website nor do I know which one :(
[16:22] <sgclark> or I would lol
[16:22] <Riddell> sgclark: that can easily be fixed :)
[16:22] <Turgay> shadeslayer_, partial keyboard works
[16:22] <sgclark> sure then, point me to it
[16:23] <sgclark> Riddell: ^ and alos I presume you want me to commit all the trusty backport stuff I had to make
[16:24] <Riddell> sgclark: yes please :)
[16:25] <sgclark> I am now becomeing a sed master muhaha
[16:25] <sgclark> s/becomeing/becoming
[16:25] <Riddell> error: unclosed replacement :)
[16:27] <lordievader> Riddell: Any arch in particular?
[16:27] <Riddell> lordievader: both, desktop images
[16:27] <lordievader> Riddell: Check, I'll see what I can do ;)
[16:33] <sgclark> lol ok maybe some time yet before I am a master
[16:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: fwiw, I won't be around tomorrow (maybe eveningish) so if you face issues you better ask shadeslayer_
[16:38] <apachelogger> I hear he speaks rupee very well :P
[16:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: going to randa?
[16:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you forsee any issues I might face?
[16:40] <apachelogger> until now you always did have issues :P
[16:40] <apachelogger> albeit no new ones today, so I guess that is reason to hope
[16:44] <soee> Riddell: wht have change since last isos i  tested ?
[16:44] <soee> zsync shows no difference
[16:53] <Riddell> soee: minimal
[16:53] <Riddell> soee: just wubi
[16:53] <Riddell> nevertheless, needs testing
[16:54] <Riddell> ok I'm out for the evening, adios
[16:54] <soee> yeah im doing some testes
[16:54] <soee> *tests
[16:54] <Riddell> great
[16:57] <lordievader> soee: What are you testing?
[16:57] <soee> lordievader: atm 64bit / manual partitions
[16:57] <soee> im setting In progress flag whenim doing some test
[16:58] <soee> you can always see it :)
[16:58] <lordievader> soee: Ok great, before we do the same thing ;)
[16:58] <soee> the bigest problem is the Wubi test
[16:59] <soee> s/bigest/biggest/
[16:59] <kubotu> soee meant: "the biggest problem is the Wubi test"
[17:00] <lordievader> Agreed, unfortunately I cannot test that.
[17:12] <ahoneybun> hello lordievader soee 
[17:13] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, how are you?
[17:13] <lordievader> soee: Can you confirm that the different filesystem types are listed twice under the parition setup?
[17:13] <ahoneybun> lordievader: good you?
[17:13] <lordievader> Doing okay :)
[17:14] <soee> lordievader: i recheck that after current test Install (entire disk) is finished
[17:15] <lordievader> soee: I'll file a bug, could you confirm it if you see it?
[17:15] <lordievader> Whoo interesting it only happens with add not with change.
[17:17] <soee> with add partition ?
[17:23] <lordievader> soee: Yes, or clicking free space. The bug report number is 1354106.
[17:23] <lordievader> bug #1354106
[17:26] <lordievader> ahoneybun: How is it going with the docs these days?
[17:30] <ahoneybun> lordievader: tbh I have been out of the loop of most things I worked on 
[17:35] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Hmm, same here. Busy with life?
[18:32] <soee> lordievader: the auto resizer test - is there usch option to install kubuntu alongside other system ?
[18:35] <lordievader> soee: If your disk is large enough, yes.
[18:35] <lordievader> For me it doesn't show, the disk I gave the vm is too small.
[18:36] <soee> i gave 20 gb
[18:36] <apachelogger> I think 30gib or so of size should be enough
[18:36] <soee> :/
[19:07] <soee> wrr
[19:08] <soee> i have se 35 GB disk, installed fedora 20, tried to install Kubuntu but thers not such option to install alongside
[19:13] <soee> apachelogger: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/255
[19:13] <soee> the drm driver is the kubuntu part or my laptop stuff ?
[19:24] <apachelogger> I know nothing about this or anything
[19:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: ^ maybe u comprehend
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> do you guys know anything about Bluetooth on Plasma 5? any luck with it?
[19:26] <apachelogger> I also know nothing about this or anything
[19:27] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: shouldn't is simply work(tm)?
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> apparently not
[19:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: on a related note, didn't we want to land a bluez at some point or something so we can get bluedevil's latest release in?
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: it works, but there's no GUI controller
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> I can connect it via bluetoothctl
[19:42] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: bluedevil?
[19:42] <ovidiu-florin> maybe, I don't know it's name
[19:42] <ovidiu-florin> they'r all blue to me
[19:46] <ovidiu-florin> aparenlty the bluetooth service is not in the services list in Systemsettings
[19:48] <apachelogger> it wouldn't be
[19:48] <apachelogger> that list is kded5 while bluedevil would use kded4
[19:48] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> soee: Kubuntu
[21:00] <soee> shadeslayer_: to i shall report it somewhere as it is not related to sddm ?
[23:44] <xnox> if you need me, ping me on #ubuntu-devel from now on.